I'm in Huge Trouble

[@ScottCramer]

Just to clarify I did NOT say that Ludwig was a liar or a scammer 😂 appreciate the shoutout man! 😎

[@shakeski1802]

very good video btw, worth a watch

[@bluejam7634]

No, but mogul mail is.

[@drsands2417]

Lmao

[@isaacwheeler3086]

Just watched your vid, great job 👍

[@bloodybackfat]

No need to state the truth, brother. Scamwig is real dont let him gaslight you!

[@Simulated_lifeform]

We need the lie detector guy to take a lie detector test to verify this information.

[@MoA-Reload...]

But... Do we get John to test the lie detector tester that tested him?! 😳 This could get messy lmao

[@gamergirl7869]

I think we should hook up the lie detector machine up to another lie detector machine, it’s the only other true witness to the case.

[@GSchiller]

How unoriginal like 700 other comments

[@MoA-Reload...]

@@GSchiller who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

[@justnoodlez5064]

Can't believe Ludwig would do this to us, unlike mogul mail who would never lie to us as the most trusted newsource online.

[@habby4377]

me when calamities are inevitable

[@jkfan2011]

how about the latest MuKitty Video @Ludwig?? why are you avoiding that one huh?

[@aaronwild2894]

But this is Mogul Mail

[@atmosstreams]

@Ben it’s not making fun of bots when you become the bot.

[@atmosstreams]

@@aaronwild2894 r/woosh

[@synthiandrakon]

"the lie detector guy is faking it" is honestly one step removed from trying to debunk pyschics at this point

[@kempolar9768]

Yeah no one with any knowledge on the topic of lie detectors would ever need to be told that it was fake, that said most people in the world genuinely do not know and so do believe it. So as weird as it seems, the video is kinda needed.

[@ThatGuy-ht9sp]

I like how it can read psychics and physics

[@fort809]

You’re severely underestimating how gullible people are. There’s a reason those psychics are still so popular

[@leemuleemu7915]

i cant believe this, we need the lie detector guy to confirm this

[@Loregasmo]

“Yep, he’s a virgin”

[@strangerthingsscene]

But who will confirm if the lie detector guy is not lying?

[@oranberry]

@Not RickRoll 🅥 is this not a bot in itself?

[@Two-ToneMoonStone]

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that pro wrestling isn't legit

[@ikonic_artworks]

​@@strangerthingsscene ok Scott Cramer

[@Chachixo]

The most shocking thing to me is that anyone needed Scott’s video to know that the tests he does aren’t real. I genuinely thought most people knew that these were for entertainment purposes only and that lie detector results are not accepted as fact. But maybe it’s because I used to watch Jerry Springer too lol. Learned something new today!

[@fatnose0]

Yes but the point is that this wasnt even remotely up to the standard of a real lie detector test. Not that lie detector tests are generally not fact (which I mean, if done well they're pretty good.) And also that they could rig the test with a tap of the foot.

[@MarioGoatse]

@@fatnose0 They’re not pretty good at all lol. There’s a reason why they’re banned for use by law enforcement in almost every civilised country except the America. They’re literally slightly more accurate than a coin flip are just over 50%. If they actually worked to tell lies every country on earth would use them and crime would always be punished. There’s so many variables in human behaviour and physiology that it’s impossible to tell if you’re lying based on physiological responses. It’s even worse that you’ve got a human who is reading the supposed data and subjectively analysing it, when if the data was actually accurate a computer could determine that. You get 5 polygraph “experts” and show them the exact same data, and they all have different answers, because they’re all taught different ways of analysing it. It’s nothing but pseudoscience. The only way it’s useful is if the person being tested thinks it’s real, and is scared into telling the truth. But that can be done with a photocopy machine as shown by one police officer. He would put the defendants hand on the machine and press copy, and then look at the photocopy and say “see you’re lying” and the dude actually believed it and told him the truth.

[@Chachixo]

@@fatnose0 yes, I thought most people would know that and found out that they didn’t. “These” refers only to the tests brought up in the video, but I do not believe that polygraph results are fact.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I learned that from Arrow when Oliver queen flat out lie during a lie detector test by regulating his heartbeat

[@andrewbloom7694]

@fatnose They aren't admissible in court for a reason. They are basically pseudoscience. "I asked my handler how I was going to pass the CIA polygraph, he was unconcerned and told me to get a good nights rest and be friendly to the operator. I never failed one" - KGB spy Aldrich Ames

[@morgue01]

back when all the youtubers were doing these videos i kinda thought everyone knew it was fake and just watched anyway because it's entertaining lmao

[@MrPhooey442]

Never assume people will understand that something is for entertainment rather than to show the truth. People will believe anything.

[@LimpyLegolas]

right theres no way you could legit think its a coincidence theres only 1 singular guy who does this job. i guess most people dont actually think much then again.

[@_chappie_]

Exactly bro. Let my homie John eat.

[@Hunter_Kennedy1]

Same here

[@Adddmeeeeh]

I just didn’t watch enough videos to realize it was one guy

[@JayeSmacks]

Why would Ludwig do this to us! I only trust trust the Mogul Mail guy from now on!

[@TenaciousDealer]

I mean I had always just assumed it was a skit, lie detector's don't even really work when used correctly anyway so I assumed it was for a funny video. Like if you watch any of those videos it's kinda obvious that the answers are a bit too perfect for comedic value. I'm really surprised there was actually people who thought it was real lol

[@shansen6969]

Yeah it's crazy how many people still believe in lie detectors

[@madmatt9114]

Yea, there was never any reason to assume that it was actually a real test, much less that the answers were accurate. Legitimate polygraphs typically are not considered valid evidence in court cases. I know some employment processes may use them as part of the screening process, but even then they are generally not reliable enough to be the final decision maker in the matter.

[@wildblack1]

@@madmatt9114 As a fun fact some states use lie detectors for people who have been charged with some crimes not because they actually tell if it's a lie or not, but because people are much less likely to lie when they think it will be detected.

[@LimabeanStudios]

​@@wildblack1 this is my favorite part about it, it's like an investigative placebo.

[@jkfan2011]

how about the latest MuKitty Video @Ludwig?? why are you avoiding that one huh?

[@yaboyjay7202]

The man said "Margot Robbie needs my knobbie" and that still makes me chuckle. All is forgiven

[@AyanT138]

Ludwin would never lie to us

[@matejteply159]

Mr. Mogul Mail would tho

[@strangerthingsscene]

mogul mail tho

[@g1gachad]

dayung two bots in a row, this is getting out of control

[@chickennugster5136]

​@John Wick 🅥 never knew John Wick was a virgin :0

[@NorShii]

Please stop

[@RobbinRams]

Ayoo thats funny here in the Netherlands we also have a dude which does all the lie detectors tests for youtubers😂

[@nqahhh9951]

with this context, the video he did with shane dawson is so incredibly funny because he spent the first 40 minutes of the video having an anxiety attack

[@rustybone]

@Ben ok

[@jkfan2011]

how about the latest MuKitty Video @Ludwig?? why are you avoiding that one huh?

[@MaximusChivus]

​@@jkfan2011 What are you on about

[@_Dawson_]

@@jkfan2011 Because who cares?

[@WinterReflections]

Shane Dawson fakes the excitement/fear/amazement/etc. in every video. To say he plays it up is an understatement. There's nothing genuine about how he acts in videos, it's all a fabricated persona to make up for the lack of interesting foundation to his videos.

[@bilboswaggings]

I love this quote from Scott: "A lot of the time I can't tell if John is a serious polygraph examiner..." as if those exist

[@AesirMO2]

I mean....they do exist. The U.S. government uses polygraph tests for security clearances. It's mostly BS and security theatre, but it's serious.

[@TheNeverEndingGamer47]

Seeing his room clean feels insanely odd to me, I am so used to seeing all cluttered up and that became the norm but don't get me wrong now I get to see the Jackie Chan statue again.

[@ayoubboufous]

True

[@lukidjano]

I swear Ludwig already admitted to the lie detector being fake like a year ago on stream

[@g1gachad]

i always new something was up about luddy, his incredible beauty was just too suspicious

[@strangerthingsscene]

I always knew there was something suspicious about your spelling

[@jkfan2011]

how about the latest MuKitty Video @Ludwig?? why are you avoiding that one huh?

[@mcgee6177]

I mean, if he lied about this, what else has he lied to us about? He only admitted his lie once he got caught.

[@zeltzamer4010]

@@mcgee6177 What else do you suspect he lie d about?

[@Joeysaladslover]

How old are you kiddo? 7?

[@westy9447]

Something that's important to remember about all lie detectors is, no matter how advanced the device is, it can not detect an actual lie, it can only detect when someone body reacts to a question. If you believe something to be true, then the detector will say you're saying a truth, additionally if someone asks a weird question, even if you're not lying, the detector can tag it as a lie because you react nervous because it's a weird question.

[@pratikmurari8182]

I still can't believe ludwig is the real scamwig, but mogul mail is a good guy

[@mountaindab]

@anicedayy still your a bot

[@sethwood1676]

Man John is actually a genius trying to monopolize the polygraph field by being the first result lmao.

[@AWildCarAppeared]

I love Scott Cramer! It's the crossover episode I for one have been waiting for

[@abhisumatparashar]

@Not RickRoll 🅥 Making fun of bots while being a bot. Ironic.

[@drizzledra]

Mogul Mail is so ethical he is apologizing for Ludwig’s lies

[@monicag_00]

I'm glad you talked about the behind the scenes of working with this guy because now if any youtuber (or celebrity lol) wants to pull an "i didn't know it wasn't legit!!" people can just reference this video can call them out on their lie

[@charlesbronson2926]

No worries, you lost my trust years ago.

[@aaayjay]

So true

[@WAVE0025]

Truly one of the mogul comments to ever mail

[@localcryptid42]

Why?

[@TG____]

Losing the trust of Charles Bronson is the biggest loss anyone could have

[@annavereschagina5338]

I’m so happy Ludwig gave Scott a shoutout, he deserves it so much !! 😊

[@Soockos]

so excited to see that scott got a shoutout from lud, scott's been one of my fav youtubers for a while

[@DunkingOreos]

Hope this gives Scott some well deserved views. Love his content.

[@chrisistrash]

This is one of the mogul mails of all time

[@x2TimesPerfect]

True

[@sixredfish6115]

Scott Cramer is the guy that made WhoDunnit videos and the both of them were really good. Good Mogul Mail hope you go bigger Mr. Mail!

[@dhruvjagrawal4846]

Im glad mogul mail exposed that ludwig truly one of the exposes of all time

[@Alex-eo7my]

Crazy to see one of my favorite creators doing a video on one of my other favorite creators🤯. Scott Cramer and Ludwig are like the two creators I watch the most (as well as Atrioc)

[@judechauhan6715]

I mean polygraphs are well known to be almost entirely if not completely useless. There are real people who can accurately predict or 'read' certain body language tells or signs that might indicate one way or the other but polygraphs are the stereotype 'lie detector' so my immediate assumption was that he's just a funny guy making content using his silly machine. Thanks for sharing his disclaimer because the truth is quite boring and when you're making content, not committing murder, boring is not good.

[@cosmicdust2668]

body language readers are also not very accurate either tbf

[@Spon01]

Good to know Ludwig's the kinda guy to sabotage and bring the other guy down with him once he's been exposed himself

[@eomoran]

Well, no. He is admitting that it was done for comedic value and points out how using it for comedic value has problems. John was the one being dragged. And rather than pretending to defend John, Lud decides to reveal the magic trick, to dissect the frog. For some people this will relive some of the comedic element of the priggish al video as they will feel conned

[@chillarypuff]

@@eomoran it’s a joke friend :)) have a good night

[@eomoran]

@@chillarypuffnot obvious.

[@hamisgoingham]

@@eomoran yeah it wasnt obvious

[@AndyLegend_]

The lie detecor guy has been lying to us the whole time?!?!?! THIS IS WHY I HAVE TRUST ISSUES 😭

[@conan8819]

5:43 such a good reference

[@aguyfromnz537]

The only lie detector guy we can trust is dr shmoixen

[@Firnienarya]

1st instinct is always self preservation. Ludwig chose to fight that instinct here and told the truth. Mad respect

[@miguelmorales1877]

I’ve never seen the lie detector guy smile

[@gentlegamer980]

He laughed at one Joke of that Zack Guy. I forgot which podcast he is on. He always plays the doucher

[@mavingamin4284]

@@gentlegamer980thedropoutspodcast

[@shizar998]

​@@gentlegamer980 dropouts podcast, Zack said something about playing with toes and he said no "lie" "yeah, it was with John"

[@phoenixspirit62]

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[@hsisnothere]

scott is long overdue for a shoutout. he makes great content on such a wide variety of topics. you can tell he loves what he does :)

[@lordarcyus2862]

Love Scott! Been watching since the beginning

[@arxonbby]

So brave of you to come clean in such a high stakes situation. Your courage and values shine strong even in the darkness of this horrendous situation.

[@adamnielson42]

Scott Cramer rocks so much. Nice to see him get a shout out.

[@c5dynomite]

I think the biggest problem is with the fact that he does both the “real” tests for people but also the fake ones for KZbin and stuff. When you’re known for doing false readings for content it can help diminish the trust that people have that your results are gonna be accurate and opens the door to heavy scrutiny.

[@Ant12468]

This was obvious I thought everyone knew this. He just gives the meme answer to every questions. He says truth or lie based on what's good content.

[@Dipp0x]

"I lied" would've been SUCH a good title

[@MothOnFire]

As a long time Scott Cramer and Ludwig fan this crossover is so strange

[@Conimon]

9:53 Imagine a world where all KZbinr apology videos go like this😂😂

[@zacharyshields977]

Shoutout Scott Cramer, he's been making great content for a while, criminally underrated

[@aaronhoang6507]

Took a civil liberties class in college, we studied a case one week where the supreme court ruled polygraph test results were inadmissible because they're a terrible indicator of truthfulness.

[@Diaco22]

Lidwig: i have been lying to you Me: ok

[@FlarpTart]

What 😂

[@Diaco22]

wth

[@quickaswink]

My boy Scott getting the credit! Get them matrasses!

[@culus5180]

no way there was lies and embellishment for content... man i feel so razzled and dazzled

[@iLL_WiLL_]

Well this may make QT forgive you at least (side note: her expression of disgust from that day still kills me).

[@ThePlatinumsquirrel]

The thing is lie detector cannot detect lies anyway

[@Andrew.Jr.05-26]

Tyler Perry's A Madea Egg Hunt Christmas ©️2013

[@RomanCancelRulez]

We demand a week of Ludlocke for this TRAVESTY!

[@ayoubboufous]

We shall riot

[@Advitheiy]

Mogul mail finally moving in on Ludwig. This proves Ludwig lied to all of us. Get him mogul mail. Ludwig is a menace to society.

[@drake5009]

The lie detector video is what initially introduced me to Ludwig, thank you mogul mail for outing this liar

[@yahellevy]

Truly disgusting, that some "people" would do this horrible thing

[@noisepoIIution]

Scott Cramer actually makes amazing videos. Highly recommend him

[@dickmeatbootysack2165]

scott cramer getting recognition he long deserved. i’ve been watching him for years and always thought he was underrated

[@primedevil3883]

Ludwig gets a parking ticket, - im in huge trouble

[@MTKTube]

all i've gotten off this is that the lie detector guy overcharged you

[@D0S81]

5:32 am I the only one that saw the word SCAM instead of EXAM when that page popped up? lol

[@maxpogfrog]

I feel like this has been known for years, this now becoming well-known is wild to me.

[@MrTindall]

nothing like showing off your "favorite mug" that is plastered with advertisements

[@zg3342]

It’s not that serious, No one should think streams will answer career hampering questions live without controlling it. Figured John was just easy to work with, peoples liked him, and he knows not to tell the behind the scenes.

[@Ilikefunandgames]

Omg I've been subscribed to Scott since he made the vid about Rhett and Link. I was so excited when I heard his voice in the intro! Thanks for letting Ludwig use your video Scott, I'm so happy for him!

[@islandsicedtea]

Lud has lied to those closest to him so many times, it was only inevitable that we were next 😔

[@Loxu69]

POLYGRAPHS ARE NOT ADMISSABLE IN A COURT OF LAW. ANY RESPECTABLE LAWYER WOULD HAVE THAT THROWN OUT IN A HEART BEAT. ITS PSEUDOSCIENCE AT. BEST.

[@nerd_1356]

Damn bro that's crazy.... Hey ever thought about how we've never seen Mogul Mail & Ludwig in the same room?

[@excessiveirony651]

Absolutely stoked the second I saw it was about lie detector because I knew it was gonna be Scott!!

[@alexvezos1930]

Love the shot out for Scott Cramer, dudes a great guy and I love his content!

[@emmamatthews3029]

omg ive been watching scott for years im so glad youre reacting to his video, his content is SO good, my two youtube worlds are colliding W strugglers ❤️

[@lunaphae]

your transparency is admirable and more people should follow in your footsteps

[@Joey-nt4xr]

I always thought it was weird that it was always that same guy

[@Disatiere]

"This Polygraph guy is a scammer" Has the same energy as "These spiritual mediums are frauds!" Like yeah, both are entirely ineffective and should never be relied on.

[@OuaisAmelie]

Glad you shouted Scott out, great guy!!

[@tri.man.3]

this is why Jerma hired the reputable Dr. Smoixan

[@JeskidoYT]

Ludwig reacting to Ludwig reacting to Scott reacting to Lie Detector Guy reacting to lies being told by other people

[@floatingblaze8405]

"He went full Michael Reeves" Hey, I get that reference!

[@wokeandroid]

Should've hired Dr. Smoixan for lie detectors

[@TheBailingling]

I thought it was a known thing that the results of these lie detector tests were at least fudged. Lie detector tests take a while, and they have to have a little time to actually read the output from the machine... idk, maybe that's just because I took a course about this stuff. I still find the videos entertaining, but I don't hold the answers as truth. Especially since true polygraph tests can give false reads. Lol

[@Nestiner09]

The Nathan For You clip broke me

[@youraverageoperator]

Polygraphs aren't lie detectors there stress detectors.

[@WW_Studios]

I liked how Isaiah Photo did a whole lie detector video but pulled a 180 at the end and showed it was a joke with the machine unplugged LOL

[@toewoe]

Wubby's lie detector wubby, Wendy, is fucking dope

[@thxricxlegaming]

The crypto coin at the end is gold 🤣🤣

[@hiitskatsuki9503]

I hope no one stops using him he’s super funny I always thought ppl thought this wasn’t like fully a thing but ig not

[@nchan602]

I feel like everyone was aware that it was a bit and the lie dector guy was def an actor/comedian

[@remcon559]

Now even Mogul Mail is using these thumbnails/titles that basically tell you nothing about what the video is about. Had hoped that he wouldn't copy this from Ludwig

[@ThmSphone]

Considering that lie detectors aren't really science-based, let him cook. It's just like saying someone reading your hands is a scammer because they got a detail wrong

[@arg7325]

Polygraph is just a machine that test hear beat so it's not necessarily that he is a liar maybe all of the ones he is testing is really excited at the moment and that make the results strange

[@awesomepark7257]

That’s why I was always wondering why they were moving

[@ErikHobart]

scott x mr mail is not a crossover i expected

[@marinenukem]

The way I see it, so long as any of his false readings doesn't result in any real drama, I'm all for him saying whatever result is funnier.

[@Shedgie]

Ludwig would lie that’s undeniable but Mr. Mogul Mail could never

[@jadedkitty728]

My brain kept on replacing John Grogan with Josh Groban. 😂

[@KurtStaInes]

Ludwig’s Favorite to do Fake it till you make it

[@nchls1343]

5:42 hey I get that Michael Reeves reference