"I'm NOT Having That" | Julia Hartley-Brewer CLASHES With Former Labour Adviser On Gender Ideology

Labour's Keir Starmer has reportedly said he is not in favour of gender ideology being taught in schools.
Former Labour adviser Matthew Laza tells Talk's Julia Hartley-Brewer there is no question of ripping up the guidance that has been put in place for schools - but thinks there is a case for reviewing it.
Julia says: "No one is erasing the existence of trans people, by saying that trans people aren't actually the sex they claim they are."
#gender #ideology #trans #school #talk
Click here for more from Talk talk.tv
If you need any help visit: talk.tv/helplines

[@gftjghdt3582]

This should never ever be taught in schools with kids

[@timgomolka644]

Unfortunately, it’s all over the media and they know about it. There are 10 year old girls talking about furries.

[@daniel-leejones8396]

Vote Conservative if you're stupid, vote Labour if you're insane

[@pathopewell1814]

I am a very loyal, and in your opinion, very stupid Conservative voter. Time will tell.

[@mogznwaz]

👏👏👏

[@Nemesis-ie2qf]

and Vote Reform if you want them in Government.

[@Nemesis-ie2qf]

@@pathopewell1814 If you are conservative then I'm amazed you are voting Tory. There were more Just Men in Sodom and Gomorrah than there are conservatives in the Tory party. But, your vote, your decision. However Tories are toast. It's Labour v Reform.

[@azillliasmith2734]

That made me 😂 and absolutely true....👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🌺

[@craighart9278]

This is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks, Julia, for calling out this blatant reality-phobia.

[@annroberts2446]

reality phobia, perfect term for many in politics, universities, activists groups.

[@clovermark39]

I do not trust labour about anything.

[@annamissAnna]

Who in their right mind believe anything that Starmer or anybody from Labour says? The same goes for Tories…

[@coolhand1966]

Vote Reform

[@jujutrini8412]

@@coolhand1966 They’re liars as well!

[@pippipster6767]

Which is why I will NOT be voting … I object to all this NONSENSE and do not support ANY of it ‼️

[@joce11]

​​@@jujutrini8412Well, given Reform know what a woman is unlike Labour I think I'll take my chances with Reform, lol!

[@Withwhatmyfuckingtoes]

@@jujutrini8412I’ll give them my vote as tories and labour are one and the same globalist cabal

[@ConnieWobbles]

Kellie -Jay Keen as the leader of the Party of Women is absolutely saying that we need to get rid of the gender recognition act, and she's right to do so!

[@azillliasmith2734]

Good for her she has my support..❤

[@paulsmith982]

Oh God, we're in trouble if Labour have people like him advising them.

[@anthonyrichardson4761]

Labour can't even define what a woman is fact 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@nicolemurphy2629]

A WOMAN IS SOMETHING LABOUR CAN'T GET TO LEAD THE PARTY 😂

[@anthonyrichardson4761]

@@Lamya65 well said

[@anthonyrichardson4761]

@@Lamya65 well said

[@joce11]

​@@errin-mp1zyEh? Only women are mothers.

[@richardbruce8111]

Labour NZ X pm thinks sex changes with 3 pages of paper!

[@SandieKirkwood]

You should never be able to amend a birth certificate. If you can change one thing, then you can change more. It makes a mockery of all identifying documents.

[@lilnymphtress]

Next is to change birthdates. So a 40 year man can change his birthdate to make him a 13 year old boy to have sex with a 12 year old. Then all the pedophiles will be “minors”.

[@kruger-3522]

Kids at school do NOT need to be taught ANYTHING about transgenders!!!! This is something for later life!!! Let's teach them the basics for life shall we!!!!! REFORM, REFORM, REFORM and let's stop all this nonsense!!!!!!

[@lynclarke6184]

Let’s teach them the 3Rs and get back to basics. Transgenderism is not on the curriculum, not should it be.

[@sophie20015]

Juilia, the Party of Women opposes the Gender Recognition Act. Invite Kelly Jay Keen on again. This guy speaks in circles.

[@tomgreene1843]

He is a twister ....there are two biological genders ....some folk may want to change their appearance...I think it may be relatively few...let's cure cancer first.

[@tallulahdurand]

Sadly, they have very few candidates.

[@GreenWhitePurple]

@@tallulahdurandThey are still a party opposing the GRA. The number of candidates doesn’t change that.

[@tallulahdurand]

@GreenWhitePurple True, but it means very few of us can actually vote for them .

[@sophie20015]

@@tallulahdurand But everyone can be made aware of the POW and listen to their positions if they press will feature these candidates.

[@stevenhorn5106]

Labour absolutely terrifies me.

[@lesleymooney305]

Yes me too, when you consider all this crap happened under the Tory watch so Labour coming in will only mean more, much more of the same. What terrifies me also is the fact that they will probably tear up all the progress we have made in the last couple of years…mostly down to Kellie-Jay, Sharon Davies and J.K to name three.

[@rensha8635]

Me too and I have never felt this way around an election before. Labour will undo the few gains that then Tory’s began to put in place such as the recent schools guidance and work on amending the Equality Act to ensure sex means sex.

[@Nemesis-ie2qf]

@@rensha8635 Then vote Reform. With ALL Brexiteers alone voting for them, Reform would get a landslide. So join in, and annihilate Tory and Labour parties! You may also like the 40-1 odds on Reform winning - I did, so went all Tory and bet on Reform winning the most seats.

[@action1976]

Vote Reform: At least Nigel knows what a woman is.

[@beerwizard9948]

Lying Nigel, a conman with fascist tendencies is trying pick your pockets. 💀☠️reform💩🤡👿

[@leogolbourn9800]

Yes enough of this gender recognition nonsense let the grown ups take over and deal with immigration.

[@dianecameron137]

TRY GROW UP A BIT

[@stuartsanders9710]

Only an uneducated idiot doesn't know what a woman is, i had an argument with my university educated granddaughter about this and told her if i have to choose between telling the truth or offending you the truth wins hands down, sorry but I'm not playing this stupid game

[@Shroomboy81]

Already have. Posted it on Thursday. No more of this nonsense, a bloke in a frock is exactly that and will never be a Woman.

[@GamersClipsinfinity]

Children should not be being taught anything about trans ....

[@geoffnichols3831]

How can you trust anybody when they ignore biological FACT?

[@connor5669]

No one is ignoring that. They just don't tolerate stupid dog whistles

[@Withwhatmyfuckingtoes]

@@connor5669up u til the election cycle they were going as far as ostracising their own female mps for pointing this out so please don’t try and rewrite history pal

[@JB-el3mo]

@connor5669 You clearly are.

[@robertf7015]

He's a flip flop, the only man that can say nothing and still go back on it.

[@joycegibbs5267]

😂😂

[@Withwhatmyfuckingtoes]

Keir windsock who’s opinions change depending the direction the wind. He’s a toad

[@stevie7335]

How is there even such a thing as a gender specialist..

[@user-jx3ms6pd9m]

This man is unintelligent. They must be desparate

[@azillliasmith2734]

I agree where have they got him must have been scraping the barrel....🤓

[@user-jx3ms6pd9m]

@@azillliasmith2734 jist watched it again, heaven heñp us

[@normanj1975]

The sight of that Labour front bench makes my blood run cold, vote Reform to save Britain.

[@joce11]

Exactly, the thought of it. We need change so Reform UK.

[@chrisburt1957]

It's frightening 😮

[@kai-jm7bb]

Don't trust anyone that doesn't think gender recognition certficates should be done away with entirely.

[@shaunrodney8858]

How could anyone vore for Labour?

[@rensha8635]

Because most of the country walks in to the polling station and puts a cross in a box without reading a single manifesto. Because the MSM has let us down and not reported on this topic (BBC !) , hardly anyone knows about it.

[@CooperJefferson]

I would rather vote a turd than vote Labour or Conservative. Starmer won't last long. Vote Reform, vote change.

[@huskymad]

Vote Reforn ensure Labour

[@ruthcollins2841]

2 sexes Female & Male. No other despite operations! 😊😅

[@evieblessed]

Agree, and the truth is only 20% of men who want to 'become women' (of course an impossibility) do not as much as take the cross-sex hormones, let alone undergo surgery.

[@Jaybekko-sp7td]

But! "The law" 🐂

[@izoedyourbabydaddy7628]

What about intersex people?

[@scotswumin5502]

​@Jaybekko-sp7td aye, laws can be reformed, for good reasons.

[@malx316]

Science not being taught in schools these days then. This does not need to be taught in school just teach the subject and not someone's ideology.

[@kiviuq3495]

What is actually happening is the erasing of biological women.

[@merlinaweaver8152]

Biological women can't even win at a beauty contest if a trans woman enters. Why is no one talking about the genital mutilation, sterilisation and conversion therapy of our children?

[@Nemesis-ie2qf]

The problem they have with that is 51% of the UK electorate are biological women. How many of them are going to vote Labour with their Trans Ideology? The MSM may well be missing how many women's votes Labour are hemorrhaging. Every one means Reform close in. In fact I think Reform have overtaken Labour now in reality.

[@Deeejjj64]

Gender recognition certificates shouldn't be a thing.

[@berylwelch3526]

This never went on in the fifties ,neither was taking the knee ,what on earth has happened to our Country

[@streetaware]

Stop all of this nonsence. There is only one solution..... Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform!Vote Reform! Vote Reform!

[@RayTeggie-er7pb]

Starmer is a bit of a tool

[@errin-mp1zy]

Bit....

[@errin-mp1zy]

Bit....

[@juliegwilliam8503]

A very rich tool. A £10 million pound landowner! VOTE REFORM 🎉

[@joce11]

​@@juliegwilliam8503Yes, as well as being Oxford educated, a Sir and a KC but ignore all that because he is still a man of the people.😂.

[@markedwards1864]

The biggest tool

[@billstevenson596]

I think this whole transition thing should be UNFUNDED, ministers sent cloud cookoo land

[@user-mf1yj1jw6e]

This is why you should not be voting Labour!

[@craigk621]

One of an infinite number of reasons

[@jennywa3046]

Vote Party of Women for people who put women first.

[@spookycat8556]

I wish there was a candidate in my area.

[@margaretcardona2165]

Join and vote Reform UK. No nonsense.

[@margaretcardona2165]

@@spookycat8556 Google them and contact them. They want to know.

[@charbar1360]

Yes there is a party saying we should stop people from legally transitioning their gender. The Party of Women, who I fully support.

[@lindavincent708]

And they wonder why the NHS has no money!!!

[@Boards-dont-hit-back]

I cannot believe this time we are living in right now.... it is like living in a never ending nightmare!

[@rensha8635]

Yes and we all thought covid was dystopian, this is even worse 😢

[@pathopewell1814]

Very very true. Nightmare.

[@hazelbrady2851]

How can you have a law that is factually incorrect.

[@chrisman5882]

No trust to labour

[@suzannepadden7201]

We don't agree to any man even with or without a certificate, to enter my space. Got it. None

[@steven161183]

Mad how the majority of muslims are voting for this trans party. Its crazy wtf.

[@gordiallen]

Muslims recognise an easy touch when they see it

[@steven161183]

@@gordiallen agreed and it proves their real motives. They just want power to control I'm sure it should be haram in some way to promote that sort of thing by repeatedly voting for it while been Muslim shouldn't it ?

[@joce11]

Not really when you consider some with religious beliefs are not too keen on women and gays.

[@rensha8635]

They don’t care about women or homosexuals though do they? They probably recognise the fact that it will end up putting women on the back foot and back on a urinary leash if more toilets are changed to mixed sex, and gay men and lesbians converted so that they can be ‘heterosexual’. As for such men seeing their women having to be seen by strange men, they will simply bar their own women from going out without a male chaperone or punish her if she’s sexually assaulted as a consequence of these madcap policies. It kind of plays to their religious teachings in many ways.

[@margaretcardona2165]

If Labour get elected with Muslims and trans genders all women's rights will be completely obliterated.

[@marcusv2226]

More lies

[@jujutrini8412]

An adult male human being can’t change into a female human being.

[@lpj55]

Or vice versa. Though it seems that F -> M isn't quite as popular, for some reason...

[@springwood1331]

Most referrals to gender clinics are young women and girls - there's been a massive increase in the past few years, whereas before it was mostly boys (and a lot less overall).

[@andrewturner2354]

I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of women. Good luck with this Labour. Talk about an own goal.

[@richardcrocker539]

Vote Reform Keep Labour out of power.

[@cathyg7767]

VOTE REFORM AND SAY NO TO THIS DELUSION MADNESS.

[@LWD1099]

Anyone else tired of this nonsense? Voting ReformUK to bring a bit of sanity back to the UK.

[@jimbo-yv5jh]

Does Sir Kweir not know he married a woman?

[@user-fu4iw5dx3f]

Starmer is very slow on the uptake, he's not the sharpest knife in the box, we can't have a wishy washy minded leader, he is easily controlled.

[@vanhooler358]

And that is what they want , a glove puppet , no strings attached.

[@davidkelly3751]

Well that went well. What is it about Labour spokespeople who never like to be questioned? Shouting over JHB is just a bad idea.

[@paulfrancis3237]

Is Mathew Laza going to a fancy dress party as a Leninist commissar ?

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

I thought it was Eddie from Bottom

[@paranoidmarty]

Vote for Reform and Nigel for PM☘️🇬🇧👍

[@Lakesider52]

I've never come across Laza before but he comes across as having been well and truly owned by the cult of socialism and he's not very pleasant about it at all. He was clearly not open to any ideas not in accordance with his own indoctrination.

[@petermach8635]

Deranged ....... there's a madness abroad in the world.

[@eveoakley6270]

Wtf is a ‘gender specialist’ ?

[@user-wq7pg7sb3d]

How would the NHS afford this 😂

[@georgetoland3007]

This man should be arrested for promoting and advocating child abuse

[@catwoman7462]

What is 'living in the other gender'? Is it just following outdated stereotypes?

[@GreenWhitePurple]

You don’t even have to do that now. You just say it three times.

[@merlinaweaver8152]

If the term woman can not be defined, then what actually is it that trans 'women' think they are being. So how can they spend 2 years living as a woman. What does that mean they have been doing in that time?

[@catwoman7462]

@@merlinaweaver8152 They can't answer that question.

[@rbir2653]

Why do you need parental consent to have a tatoo or ear peircing. You cant drink or drive or vote until a certain age. But the state will happily let you chop your bits off at any age. Someone please explain?

[@izoedyourbabydaddy7628]

Clearly you don't understand how the process works.

[@stevetodd7030]

Easy solution. If someone wants to be the other sex then fine, however other people do not have to partake in the delusion of those people who want to live as the opposite of what they were born. Children should not be taught about this until they reach 15 years old.

[@rightfuljohnny]

We shouldn't even be giving recognition to this.

[@hudsonbear5038]

Just had an argument with a some one saying that trans are discrimated against.. I asked them to explain, But they kept ignoring the question.. So I pointed out they are not disciminated against , and infact they have more rights the females and males too the point they can go, do and say what they want with out breaking the law.... They have since not responded lol

[@spookycat8556]

Exactly. They are the most privileged people in the western world.

[@ianbennett1491]

Can you imagine having this conversation in 1950.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Labour guy dresses up like he thinks thats what the working class wear 😂

[@Crispvs1]

He also wears what used to be known in the 1950s and 60s as 'National Health Glasses', which is probably also a conscious choice.

[@thinkingoutloud7425]

​@@Crispvs1in our house we call them architect specs! They do look like a twit in them.

[@oojimmyflip]

I dont waznt my kids minds polluted like this Vote Reform to nip this in the bud, these teachers shoukd be sacked.

[@gabychats]

I want to hear from POW! Kelly J Keen is holding the line!

[@benmarr352]

And what will the review result in? Another Starmer obfuscation. Given that he constantly lies how long intil the review becones a revocation???

[@rogerwilson6367]

Geeeez. How do you get a job as a political adviser?

[@djdagsysvinylfrontier1539]

I’ll never ever vote labour again, I’ve voted them all my life until the last election I didn’t vote, because I’ll never vote conservative, so I’m voting reform

[@paulinegray191]

I recommend reading "The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht" it tells you what's really happened in Scotland.

[@anastasiamacvicar5609]

Trans activist hate starmer with a passion, nothing that man says will go anywhere,

[@Deeejjj64]

How can you change your birthday certificate? It makes no sense.

[@douglasmorris8364]

His lips are moving. You know what that means.

[@David-tt2mt]

Home schooling would cut right through this cancerous growth, and not referring to that moustache.

[@anthony208]

If Kier Starmer is confused by the very simple question of can women have male appendages, I’d say he is not fit for public office and certainly not the PM job🤦‍♂️

[@yourma2000]

It's a social contagion.

[@marchudson1693]

what a fkd up place we live in

[@juliegwilliam8503]

VOTE REFORM 🎉 let the Trans vote labour, the rest of us will vote REFORM 🎉

[@humptydumpty9177]

How the hell did these maniacs even mange to get out of bed by themselves. Every Labour MP should have their own enabler!

[@markrymanowski719]

Lol.

[@peterg791]

Laza is clearly the Knob Head , that he is the visual image of ,

[@Phix75]

There's a big difference between having a brain and using one... lol

[@cainhannah4393]

please vote reform, this country needs it so bad!

[@DJ-eh8nt]

If my 7 year old came home and she was told she identified as a good girl I would call bullshit

[@joelsmith1866]

Don’t think they have ever had more rights

[@lynclarke6184]

Thank you Julia. A bit of sense in a mad , mad world.

[@msmrepo3271]

Law of the Land is common law NOT legislation!!!

[@itnahtapohcysp]

Trust professional Liars and Traitors

[@madeyoulook6392]

No grown man should button his shirt up fully but not wear a tie 🙄

[@christinalayzelle832]

This really gets on my nerves, there are much bigger things, real things, to worry about. Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧 🩵

[@clovermark39]

This affects over half the population so it’s quite a big issue.

[@joycegibbs5267]

actually as a woman, it’s incredibly important to me & surely the truth should be important to you too ?

[@unclem7816]

Nobody transitions to anything. They are what they are and have always been. Just coz they want to be treated differently doesnt make it true or force me to believe it.

[@izoedyourbabydaddy7628]

To you 😂😂but a person's transition is not about you

[@shionacruse1999]

Yep, it's all about stereotypes.

[@lilnymphtress]

How can you protect “women” spaces when you can’t define what a “woman” is?

[@grahamcox9011]

Absolutely love your show . Your honesty. Humour . Smile makes your show the best thing on TV..

[@allanholloway4729]

All sane people desperately want the Tories out but none of us want this bunch of equally idiotic politicians to replace them!!

[@suzannepadden7201]

Welsh Labour have tried to get self id passed in Wales

[@johnrobertbainbridge7667]

I know who I want to listen to & it's not him.

[@clownworld4108]

Reform

[@johnmccully6289]

no wonder labour is a mess with advisers like him, you could see how angrier he was getting on the trans matter.

[@davidanderson7138]

i could just imagine this guy hanging around the children's playground!

[@denissmart2781]

My old man used to say never trust a politician,They all piss in the same pot.🤮🤮

[@markrymanowski719]

I think Reform should push this subject often, and assure all women that their safety will be paramount. No trans in their private spaces. Non in their sports.

[@techtipsuk]

And so it begins. Absolutely pathetic

[@DeeHerb]

Obviously, everyone has a right in whatever they want to be, but don't shove it done our damn throat. And don't teach it in schools.

[@ninianmacmillan-keith7435]

VOTE REFORM UK. VOTE REFORM UK.

[@leslierowe2337]

This bloke was an advisor in the labour party thats why they didn't get in for 24 years

[@woodyforest7308]

Vote Reform let's get back to common sense