I'm NOT switching to a Sony A7R iv (but Tony is?)

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Tony & Chelsea Northrup

Tony & Chelsea Northrup

Күн бұрын

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Tony and I go head to head and talk about our current camera choice. Is upgrading from an A7r iii to an A7r iv worth the extra $$$? We talk about the new features the a7r4 has to offer and the pros and cons of both bodies. I get nerdy and pull out the numbers and testing to show Tony his choice might be wrong.
Both cameras are great, but newer, bigger, and more expensive might not always be the right answer for you!

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@DarkHorsePod
@DarkHorsePod 4 жыл бұрын
For wildlife photography in a wet environment the argument doesn't hold. The weather-sealing failures of the A7riii are a deal-breaker, and the reach provided by the extra megapixels in the a7riv allows you to carry less glass.
@WarpedMiniatures
@WarpedMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
yeah my r3 flappy port doors are already losing their "seal" when pressed in.
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list Жыл бұрын
This is the only instance of a Bret Weinstein comment that isn't embroiled in controversy
@wahrerWalter
@wahrerWalter 4 жыл бұрын
And here i sit with my 10 year old Canon apsc, saving money to get a new ND filter 😶
@kecilce
@kecilce 4 жыл бұрын
Start a channel, get 1 million subscribers with lots of uploads with viewers, be sponsored, and you too can have any camera and lens you want.
@wahrerWalter
@wahrerWalter 4 жыл бұрын
@Derrick Hand Good Tip! Im curious: what's your camera and why did you buy it? Or differently asked: How much did you spend on photography the last 5 years?
@wahrerWalter
@wahrerWalter 4 жыл бұрын
@Derrick Hand Yeah, film costs are the reason i went digital very early when i learned that photography is my thing. Nowadays you can get pretty good cameras for under 500€/£/$, though i don't know the Pentax lineup. If you want to stay cheap, buy a DSLR. Both cameras and lenses are getting cheap now with all the new dslm systems out, especially big brands like Canon and Nikon. As i said, i don't know about pentax. My dream goal at the moment is an apsc dslm to adapt my father's old manual olympus lenses, because it's hard to hit the focus on my 650D at 50mm 1.4. Nevertheless, i keep taking pictures and having fun. I just came back from vacation with some thousand pictures taken
@panzer3279
@panzer3279 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, just replace Canon with Nikon.
@Photo-ms1mo
@Photo-ms1mo 4 жыл бұрын
Derrick Hand BEST BUY in your price range is PENTAX K-70 Period!
@SeanColey
@SeanColey 4 жыл бұрын
That coupon code gave me flashbacks to hotline commercials that aired at 3 AM.
@Macros1971
@Macros1971 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something similar
@FloydBromley
@FloydBromley 4 жыл бұрын
Tony’s look of disappointment at the coupon choice
@HipHopJunkyRadioShow
@HipHopJunkyRadioShow 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood photographers that took shots on the edge of a cliff. Scary 🙄
@footsy420
@footsy420 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't disappointment, look again. He was distant, thinking about....
@boromaushelms281
@boromaushelms281 4 жыл бұрын
@@footsy420 ....love69
@cactustweeter2890
@cactustweeter2890 4 жыл бұрын
I like 69.
@jonweinraub
@jonweinraub 4 жыл бұрын
Hip Hop Junky Radio Show I’m not afraid of heights but I am afraid of dying and the amount of people trying to take that money shot with a cellphone cam at the Grand Canyon was rather alarming.
@mryorkielover
@mryorkielover 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought your Photography book Without using the discount because I appreciate ALL the Free info you give us via You Tube. Thanks
@ghlocal1
@ghlocal1 4 жыл бұрын
All I want is the perfect camera!!!
@luisdiegosalas
@luisdiegosalas 4 жыл бұрын
That Camera Conspiracies guy is hilarious!
@ChrisJones-rd4wb
@ChrisJones-rd4wb 4 жыл бұрын
according too camera-jesus its the d860
@marklarson3934
@marklarson3934 4 жыл бұрын
Your dream has come true = the New Canon EOS R5
@ikoyDaPnoy
@ikoyDaPnoy 3 жыл бұрын
The Sony a7 IV will be the perfect camera!
@MrRedrum01
@MrRedrum01 2 жыл бұрын
Sony a1
@BeastMadeReviews
@BeastMadeReviews 4 жыл бұрын
Why I am sticking with the Sony A7R2, an even older camera: I have no money. 😅
@jorgebylego55
@jorgebylego55 4 жыл бұрын
It's not worth the upgrade, maybe with the a7rv
@RonBesse
@RonBesse 4 жыл бұрын
I just got a very low time used a7riii for $2k. I have still a very low time used a7rii, a7sii, a7ii. I was soooo excited to get the a7riii until I used it. Don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful camera, but not $1k more than the a7rii. Picture quality is exactly the same. I am still deciding whether to still sell the a7rii and the a7ii to pay for it, or sell the a7riii and just upgrade the glass for the a7rii. I don't shoot sports, so I don't spray and pray anyway. I compose every picture, so battery life was never a thing for me. I get cought up in the new camera gear propaganda all the time.
@jorgebylego55
@jorgebylego55 4 жыл бұрын
@@RiceCake-ep9gu just buy an a99ii
@genghis2510
@genghis2510 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not the money. You just know better than to be swayed by measurebators.
@damienbrooks2363
@damienbrooks2363 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still getting booked using my Sony A7s for portrait photography 🥴
@greysuit17
@greysuit17 4 жыл бұрын
I think I only want the R4 for crop mode. That to me is a crazy awesome feature. It’s like a crop sensor that can hulk out into an insane high end full frame megapixel camera.
@joselara4392
@joselara4392 3 жыл бұрын
same reason I want it.
@anulearntech
@anulearntech 4 жыл бұрын
Now I like my a7iii that I bought a month back, even more..😊😊😊😍😍😍
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography 4 жыл бұрын
There's not enough Tony in the background 😂
@65Drums
@65Drums 4 жыл бұрын
Camera Conspiracy reference 😂
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 4 жыл бұрын
@@65Drums Kasey is becoming Legend!
@StefanEideloth
@StefanEideloth 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this definitely needs more Tony! :D
@flioink
@flioink 4 жыл бұрын
Can't afford either, but watching because I like the tech.
@HelenaOfDetroit
@HelenaOfDetroit 4 жыл бұрын
Same, but I am drooling anyway. I definitely need to upgrade, just don't know how I can afford it. Guess it would be easier if people actually bought photos from me, but I'm no good at the selling aspect of photography.
@gabewrsewell
@gabewrsewell 4 жыл бұрын
Helena Of Detroit Hey I mean if it makes you happy then it’s money well spent! At least, that’s my justification for spending all my money on lenses and astrophotography gear lol
@flioink
@flioink 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenaOfDetroit Every beginning is harder nowadays, but if you are passionate about your craft you'll find a market. I'm speaking from experience though my line of work is different, but still within the visual medium.
@EdoHDpro
@EdoHDpro 4 жыл бұрын
Aim high never settle low. The more you watch the closer the camera is to you.
@kenwilson01
@kenwilson01 4 жыл бұрын
You Guys are Great together, the synergy...and I have learned SOOOO much...Thank You..
@lukacsgutasi490
@lukacsgutasi490 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better videos from you two. I like the natural, honest feel of the video. In my opinion, videos like this (and not the overproduced ones) have more intimate feel and the voiced opinion comes across more credible. I also liked that it is short, to the point and I love the effortless, subtle humor. :)
@lostinoc3528
@lostinoc3528 4 жыл бұрын
If only it was honest. They both talk about 2 of the best cameras in only negative ways, then.... randomly bring up a canonnwhich is no where near as good as either, and they are both fully in love with it. They are decent with their advertising, but recently so obvious.
@JRhill
@JRhill 4 жыл бұрын
​@@lostinoc3528 I was hesitant to believe that view for a long time. I've always appreciated their blend of hard and soft analysis, fun, business, etc. I've learned a great deal and still will, from them. However, they just named the A7RIV the camera of the year for 2019. That was just a few weeks ago. It doesn't help - in my mind - that their Canon push is commensurate with a spike in general interest in Canon by many prosumers (including me) due to recent news of fixes and new gear. Whether they intend to or not, the entertainment portion of this is starting to "feel" more important than the truest sentiments.
@lostinoc3528
@lostinoc3528 4 жыл бұрын
@@JRhill they are one of my favorite photography channels, but obvious is obvious, they went from being seemingly honest, to being owned by canon. Whether or not canon will be the best ever, is yet to be seen. They aren't now though. Hopefully they at least stay somewhat entertaining while shilling.
@danieljohnston5306
@danieljohnston5306 4 жыл бұрын
LostinOC they are not owned by anyone just because they talk up or down a system that you don’t agree with. Canon fans been calling them Sony fanboys for a long time, before that Nikon fanboys, before that Canon. Yaada yadda, but, what most youtube pushers do is live in their own bubbles of perspective that don’t really mesh with real world buyers. This feels honest, but I’ll predict right now the next big thing will quickly become not enough for them either. Some of that is because it’s their job, some of it is from the bubble....lol
@lostinoc3528
@lostinoc3528 4 жыл бұрын
@@danieljohnston5306 owned was a slight exaggeration. However when your job is to be an influencer and a company pays you to influence others to buy their products, it is in a way important that they do what those who pay them want. I understand being a huge fan and just assuming everything they say they mean fully, no matter how obvious it is, some people will never see it or believe it. That is why influencers are the #1 way for a company to make sale. You can keep doing as they say, it is possible who they are pushing is the best. However at this very moment, canon is not.
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited 4 жыл бұрын
Have had my a7r3 from day one and have no interest in the a7r4. Just not enough
@HyRax_Aus
@HyRax_Aus 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, though I wouldn't refuse an R4, it's not a massive jump up from the R3 to justify an upgrade at this stage. Value-wise, the R3 will win, especially if you don't need the extra or improved features of the R4. If I needed a second body, it would likely be the R3 unless I had a large budget.
@cheynewalls
@cheynewalls 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chelsea & Tony, love your channel, great info. I know you are very busy, if you have the time I need help with a camera question. I'm current shooting medium format (ALPA A-Series) for my landscapes. The thing is I need a bit more versatile camera as kind of a secondary camera. I like my D810, but its getting a little old and it is just so big and heavy. We often hiking well over 10 miles to get the shot and its time to lighten my camera bag. Any recommendations for a smaller, high mega pixel, good video camera options? Don't want to break the bank and was thinking the Sony A7r iii. If you have the time would love to hear your professional thoughts. Thank you!
@JohnMitchellTV
@JohnMitchellTV 4 жыл бұрын
People have to understand the difference between the two. the R4 is best for stills and single shots. With the 61MP, you capture literally every detail of your image area, which makes it perfect for portraits in both dark and vibrant scenes. The R4 was NEVER meant to be a sports/performance camera. It was not designed to be a camera that you bring to the soccer field. Because of its ridiculously high resolution, the files are much larger than the R3. So go figure it takes the buffer so long to clear, even with the higher end SD card. High MP cameras are distinctly designed for one particular purpose: portraits. On the other hand, the R3 is a jack of all trades. It can do everything you want. Sports photography? You got it. You can achieve up to 10 FPS and still maintain great quality images. Wanna do stills and portraits? Easily done with its 42MP capabilities. Even videographers will absolutely love the R3 for its crisp 4K quality. Its a matter of perspective and understanding how you intend to use the camera. Shop wisely.
@TechVidGuy
@TechVidGuy 4 жыл бұрын
For me it’s really more about versatility. I wanted a Sony mirrorless equivalent to the D850 and Sony finally made that. This means less gear in my bag and less hassle. If speed really gets to me, the crop mode with 26 megapixels and basically full AF coverage is right there waiting for me. It depends what you’re looking for.
@MarkNaaman
@MarkNaaman 4 жыл бұрын
Switching from R3 to R4 made a descent difference for me. I cared more about quality and not about time .. very rarely to miss out on something extraordinary happening, however, with my R4, i am finding my work on LR and video editing becoming a bit easier and more sharper than the R3 were. Besides, the quality shows, if you were to do 3d prints for products, or bigger size posters. My final verdict is that i love my R3, i use it now for social events, for quick pictures for online ads and / or social media, but for more professional use, i will always chose the R4 with a heart beat, for i know 99.99% chance my pictures will turn out to be to my liking. However, and to be completely honest, for a novice to med professional user, they might not be able to see the difference right away, and therefore , i understand if they chose the R3 instead , where they can invest the extra $ into the accessories. It makes complete sense, and either way you would be making a great choice.
@Syed_Nouman
@Syed_Nouman 4 жыл бұрын
How about for wildlife? do i stick to getting a d850 or do i go for the a7riii or iv?
@MickPayton
@MickPayton 4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I wonder if you could help? I've just switched from Nikon and D850 started using the A7R4, I notice that in the studio, using Elinchrom flash, the eye focus with AF continuous gets less reliable with smaller apertures (meaning smaller in size not number)? With an 85mm F1.8 sony lens, at F1.8 it seems pretty reliable, if I go to F8 I start get shots out of focus. If I use single point with AF Single it focusses all the time at any aperture. Is this typical of eye focus? Many thanks, Mick
@SilvaDesigns
@SilvaDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
That was a really good video guys! I like the juxtaposition of Chelseas approach to photography in comparison to Tonys.
@llewellinbelton3991
@llewellinbelton3991 4 жыл бұрын
Yin and Yang?
@jwashervisuals
@jwashervisuals 4 жыл бұрын
I broke my a7iii and decided to take the leap for the a7riv. The MP are fun, but overkill. But the body and button upgrades make so much of a difference for me. It is far more enjoyable to use, and that means something to me.
@TKN_NTBY
@TKN_NTBY 4 жыл бұрын
then just use in crop mode or 24mp. Problem resolved
@wasee6694
@wasee6694 4 жыл бұрын
SIR, please guide me I want to buy Sony a7r ii or a6500 with canon Ef 200 f2.8 L ii USM, which adapter works best for this combination ?
@movieman2009
@movieman2009 3 жыл бұрын
Does the Sony A9ii buffer faster 3:05? Deciding between upgrading from A7iii to A9ii or A7RIV with no sense when we will see a A7 IV non R
@adem-videography
@adem-videography 4 жыл бұрын
We want more Tony background!
@greyhoundrick5568
@greyhoundrick5568 4 жыл бұрын
From camera of the year to dumping it? Wow! Ive shot with the riii and the riv and IMHO, for me, the difference is worth purchasing the riv. There are a lot of somewhat minor improvements, but the biggest one for my shooting is the ability to crop more aggressively. It really makes a difference when shooting, especially wildlife. Ive had many occasions when I could get by with my 70-200 vs. having to buy a longer more expensive lens. Also, I like the EVF much better as the increased resolution is very noticeable, especially when magnifying. I think the auto focus is better on the riv and that is something I also believe is worth paying for. I have noticed the difference between 399 points vs. 567 points in both auto focus and tracking ability. Anyway, just my opinion, I certainly value yours, but again, for me, the a7riv is well worth the price! best to you, Rick
@jimbass2127
@jimbass2127 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The A7R4 is like having two cameras in one. When shooting birds, I often use the crop mode and that produces comparable files to my A73. When importing to LR, I skip the DNG conversion until after I have culled the images, then walk away and let the computer do the conversion. No big deal.
@geko9425
@geko9425 4 жыл бұрын
Thats why its Always a Personal choice
@thesedrumbeats9039
@thesedrumbeats9039 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! What lenses are mounted on both your cameras?
@maxellison55
@maxellison55 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are the BEST! Love the interaction, love the reviews and love your tutorials!
@jonathonbarrios3199
@jonathonbarrios3199 4 жыл бұрын
Love69 for a Valentine's Day code 💀💀💀 lol
@ripley1690
@ripley1690 4 жыл бұрын
exactly what I was thinking, my favourite position to be in on that special day :)
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 4 жыл бұрын
Tony was struggling to keep a straight face.
@chantzcutts
@chantzcutts 4 жыл бұрын
Lighten up Francis
@jonathonbarrios3199
@jonathonbarrios3199 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Huston Chelsea looked so proud of herself 😆😂
@dep1001
@dep1001 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@hiawrj
@hiawrj 4 жыл бұрын
I don't particularly disagree with anything you explained, that being said, there are other benefits the a7r4 provides, that the a7r3 does not: Animal eye AF, real time tracking, larger grip, better weathersealing, better EVF, 2x UHS-II card slots, USB-C vs Micro, better feeling buttons, faster wireless connectivity to phones, wireless tethering, phase detect AF at higher Fstops allowing the use of teleconverters on telephoto lenses - on top of having more megapixels while retaining same dynamic range and ISO performance. This is a lot of benefits: Are they worth the price difference? That's subjective. :)
@moritzbriegleb7445
@moritzbriegleb7445 4 жыл бұрын
RIII has animal af & USB-C ... at least the one that is sitting on my table ...
@hiawrj
@hiawrj 4 жыл бұрын
@@moritzbriegleb7445 you're absolutely right. Thought it was more like a9 than a7iii.
@sekhar721
@sekhar721 4 жыл бұрын
Like the comparison thanks for that, just curious Tony, where did you bought that camera grip I just love it.....could you please drop a link for it ?
@MrFed-gh6gw
@MrFed-gh6gw 4 жыл бұрын
quick question: if I buy SDP on amazon mexico the paperback version, will I get the updated version? I see it has written ''14 hours of extra video content'' while your version in this video has printed 20 hours. are the books different in any way?
@eduardmeier-lee9352
@eduardmeier-lee9352 4 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, very insightful and helps to make the right decisions. Thank you.
@scb2scb2
@scb2scb2 4 жыл бұрын
There are about 50 small and big updates you can make the argument the R3 is better value or even that 42 megapixels is enough but this is far from the whole story.... 29min record limit, tested with 1 card not 2 i bet, better weather sealing, tracking etc etc etc... I own both and the R4 is just better now if its better value thats vert personal.
@nickkmd9306
@nickkmd9306 4 жыл бұрын
and Im here happy with my a7rii lol
@Macros1971
@Macros1971 4 жыл бұрын
Me too :)
@jerryinman3044
@jerryinman3044 4 жыл бұрын
What did you use to shoot this video? Thanks.
@nicholassmith7723
@nicholassmith7723 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this was my favorite video you guys have done to date and it has nothing to do with saving money on the R3. This format just seemed like a much more candid and authentic discussion about your experience, than comparing specs in the studio on the big tv. I'd love to see more content like this from you guys.
@nicholassmith7723
@nicholassmith7723 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently an A7III/A6600 shooter considering something with a higher mp count. I do envy that Canon 15-35mm, but at least so far... Canon would be a larger, heavier and significantly more expensive system to invest in.
@theboss069
@theboss069 4 жыл бұрын
I'm switching to Pentax
@michaels8597
@michaels8597 4 жыл бұрын
and you would love the K1mk2...and less money..no menu issues,more control from the body itself
@michaels8597
@michaels8597 4 жыл бұрын
@@markrigg6623 That option is better than crippled cameras or cameras with constant recalls.That's one of the main reasons I chose it,because Pentax makes sure they make great products without cheating the consumer,taking away card slots and other stupidity.
@michaels8597
@michaels8597 4 жыл бұрын
@@markrigg6623 oh yeah,and we all heard that same crap about Olympus and Pentax as well,who have the BEST IBIS/quality control/bang for the buck.
@michaels8597
@michaels8597 4 жыл бұрын
@@markrigg6623 Just repeating the SUV/film/micro 4/3,DSLR,is 'dead',rhetoric,while Pentax makes a new camera///
@Vormulac1
@Vormulac1 4 жыл бұрын
And as Canon announces a twin slot body with IBIS I'm sitting here with my 5 year old Pentax that has all of that as well as better build and weathersealing and a functional version of the picture stacking mentioned by Tony.
@kyokuten
@kyokuten 4 жыл бұрын
Well I have all your books so there isn't yet something you can sell me, I suggest a 69mm f/0.69 Lens
@Britton0932
@Britton0932 4 жыл бұрын
kyokuten good luck focusing a lens that shallow
@southerncharity7928
@southerncharity7928 4 жыл бұрын
With 0.69 speed booster. for more bokeh 😁
@kyokuten
@kyokuten 4 жыл бұрын
@@Britton0932 you don't use a 0.69 aperture to get things in focus, you'd rather focus on the out of focus areas which will be pretty much edge to edge
@Britton0932
@Britton0932 4 жыл бұрын
Speed boosters are great. I have the viltrox eos-m 0.71
@kyokuten
@kyokuten 4 жыл бұрын
@@Britton0932 the whole thing is in fact 69, I could have suggested a 69mm f/69 but that's not exciting, unlike what 69 essentially refers to
@mac3864
@mac3864 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony, what is the bag you are using at 2:36? Thanks
@82300sd
@82300sd 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't planning on upgrading from the R3 to the R4, but at $1000 off the retail price of an R4, it was a no brainer
@arndtbc
@arndtbc 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad i stuck with my Nikon Z6 when I added it to my Nikon kit its fast and the body handles great. Im sick of feature overload. I want the basics to work well.
@skydj100
@skydj100 4 жыл бұрын
me too.
@tubularificationed
@tubularificationed 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds a bit Pentaxian. Admitting indirectly, that cameras are behind, therefore retreating to handling and basics. Actually, I'm truly afraid that Nikon Z might become the new Pentax of the next DSLM decade. I still shoot my Nikon DSLR, but I'm not considering Nikon Z at the moment. Because also I want the basics to work well, but my definition of "basics" for mirrorless may be different (AF, including Eye AF, two card slots, basic lens selection within the non-overpriced lens segment).
@hugay1
@hugay1 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@cobra52563
@cobra52563 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, and hey I wonder what camera brand uses a XQD card. Lol
@robbie154
@robbie154 4 жыл бұрын
The basics like two card slots in a pro body 🙃
@IANREA
@IANREA 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose it all depends on whether your an amateur, an amateur that has visions of becoming a pro, or a pro, Sports pro.. Personally I'm just an amateur, Nikon D810, I have good glass, so if I did it would be to a D850, etc. Hard to justify cost of spending when results aren't going to be different for what I use it for. Love the vids, tips, reviews
@andrewmckenley5355
@andrewmckenley5355 4 жыл бұрын
Amateurs use D3300 not D810s lol
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 4 жыл бұрын
Tony, I’m curious if this bad high res mode is specific to Sony or do they all suck? I’ve never had a camera with this function, but I believe Olympus and Pentax do the same thing. I believe reviews have mentioned the Pentax high res mode not working well on the K-1.
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 4 жыл бұрын
Tony and Chelsea - you mentioned panoramas and stitching them together in Photoshop. My Sony APSC has a panorama function that stitches them together in camera. Have you done any testing regarding the two options? Advantages/disadvantages of each? (Newbie here, thanks in advance for the advice)
@simianinc
@simianinc 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I had the money to bounce around camera systems on a whim ...:-(
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 4 жыл бұрын
Every 6 months there's a new make or model released that equals or surpasses the others and it's "Time to switch?!?!?" all over again. You can almost mark your calendar to it.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 4 жыл бұрын
@@RiceCake-ep9gu Competition is good and we all want the best equipment possible, whatever that is. But these days, some photographers are switching camera systems more often than some people change their socks. It's crazy.
@longliveclassicmusic
@longliveclassicmusic 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Canon lover, period… But they are professional camera reviewers. It's the bulk of their channel. Their gear is their business, not as much their photos. One of the best, most honest approaches to camera reviewing is to actually live with a camera like they've done. For months and months and months they were totally sold on the current Sony bodies, but now once the allure of the small upsides have lost their pull, they've honestly backtracked. Who would have ever thought?
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 4 жыл бұрын
@@longliveclassicmusic And who knows what the coming next few months will mean. Canon obviously has something big in the works but it is doubtful the Sony engineers have been doing nothing behind the scenes.
@Richie5480
@Richie5480 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Sony a7Riii, also have the a7iii. You guys coming to WPPI ?
@benjshields
@benjshields 4 жыл бұрын
Is it worth getting the a7r 3 over the standard 3?
@Richie5480
@Richie5480 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Shields Yes , I love both though, a7iii great for low light, a7Riii has more mega pixels, all depending on what you shot.
@watchmykicksllc
@watchmykicksllc 4 жыл бұрын
what lens is on Tonys camera? 24-105? or 85gm?
@steveschnetzler5471
@steveschnetzler5471 4 жыл бұрын
It is good to see you two re-thinking your camera decisions like we all do. In the long run, it is not about the money, it is about the experience and happiness it gives you, and for professionals, it is about the money it makes you. I have watched reviews, decided I need/wanted a new camera, then 6 month later when it went on sale I got it. By then I could not remember why I wanted/needed it. I still have not quite figured it out yet. Next time I need to take notes. Yes, I have your book, but too intimidated to open it yet.
@harsh8426
@harsh8426 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea & Camera Conspiracies is the collab I want... 😂pls pls 🙏🏽
@choonielfc
@choonielfc 4 жыл бұрын
100%
@WhoIsSerafin
@WhoIsSerafin 4 жыл бұрын
And I’m sticking with my G9, lol!
@ClevelandTerry
@ClevelandTerry 4 жыл бұрын
WHO IS SERAFIN me too!
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Same haha well that and my ageing G80.
@ClevelandTerry
@ClevelandTerry 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Marano I still use a G7 as my B cam.
@pensrud
@pensrud 4 жыл бұрын
as for the focus stacking. Have you tried it on the z6/z7? if you have a video about this already. my bad.
@jesseroussellmusic
@jesseroussellmusic 2 жыл бұрын
did you film in s-cinetone or slog3?
@denmoer
@denmoer 4 жыл бұрын
Canon is the jolted lover you dump for "The Hot New Thing", but in the end, you always go back to her
@robertspano4003
@robertspano4003 4 жыл бұрын
Er, no. Canon cheated on me three times (with major technical faults - not cripple hammer related) - there’s only so many times you can forgive. Like any relationship, trust is everything. Canon betrayed my trust.
@Ravencroft81
@Ravencroft81 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertspano4003 Luckily Sony will never have technical issues and they are well known for their excellent customer support. NOT 🤣
@77dris
@77dris 4 жыл бұрын
Canon R5 announced today. Welcome back to Canon y’all!
@gur262
@gur262 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ravencroft81 nobody claimed that but sony has some awesome specs and sensors to make up for it
@patrickl3140
@patrickl3140 4 жыл бұрын
the R4 is requesting more quality on lenses for giving its maximum, and this is a real budget issue at the end. I keep my R3, enough for my all images ...
@stuartschaffner9744
@stuartschaffner9744 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick, good point. Even for optically perfect lenses, the higher pixel count requires that you have to keep the lens wider open to avoid diffraction blur. So, more megapixels means less depth of field.
@ahmedsultan4804
@ahmedsultan4804 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question do you think I should buy a7riii or a9 I want to take general photos for my travels and I’m confused about which the best camera to get anyone knows please response
@scb2scb2
@scb2scb2 4 жыл бұрын
imho the R4 since its the best travel compromise, good for landscapes, ok for sports (not perfect), also handy as a 'crop' camera with much deeper buffer and reach. Better weather sealing and better video.... Unless money is a issue then i would consider the R3 or the A9M1
@ahmedsultan4804
@ahmedsultan4804 4 жыл бұрын
@@scb2scb2 honestly yes the money is my first issue this is why i want good balanced camera for everything and also with great auto focus and ISO performance so i want advice of which camera to buy
@scb2scb2
@scb2scb2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsultan4804 Yeah i am maybe not the best person to ask but if it would be me i would probably pick a second hand A9 add a l-bracket or a R3 at a solid price and add some sigma glass to keep the price down.
@ahmedsultan4804
@ahmedsultan4804 4 жыл бұрын
@@scb2scb2 thanks i think i will get the r3 and tamron 28-75 2.8
@scb2scb2
@scb2scb2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsultan4804 Still own the R3 and its a solid option for sure. Even in crop mode you still get 18 megapixels without a AA filter and a silly deep buffer. The that 28-75 will give you 112mm in crop mode .if needed very nice for travel and you can argue its better value then the R4... Just make no mistake the R4 is the better camera in many ways.
@wilbignal
@wilbignal 4 жыл бұрын
@Tony Why are there continuous (annoying) dropped frames with 780p60/1080960 vids and is there a benefit to using this output format vs standard frame rates?
@footsy420
@footsy420 4 жыл бұрын
This is hard. Even though I know the big 3 brands are all great I have Sony cameras and I want all the KZbin celebrities to affirm my investment. This is what Sony needs though. The last thing we want is for them to sit back and try to save money on R&D
@videojeroki
@videojeroki 4 жыл бұрын
and that's why we should not trust early reviews ;)
@jsbatra
@jsbatra 4 жыл бұрын
Such a big difference from their first review which was all glowing. to be fair, they are willing to update their reviews and remain neutral unlike most other Tubers
@peterlemke3468
@peterlemke3468 4 жыл бұрын
The good thing about YT is there's always something to hawk. And when you change your opinion you can still sell.
@rockychocbill
@rockychocbill 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. It's not like there is a newly discovered fault. These are somewhat minor nitpiks, and Chelsea said as much. The larger MP count is awesome for cropping in on wildlife shots, etc. I don't own one, but have watched enough real world reviews.
@videojeroki
@videojeroki 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockychocbill I think wildlife photographers prefer speed and big buffer than megapixels.
@rockychocbill
@rockychocbill 4 жыл бұрын
Depends. For BIF then yes, A9 might be best. But A7R4 is being used for "regular" wildlife plenty.
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 3 жыл бұрын
What if you make large poster size stuff, in the 20 X 30 inch size range, would you see a difference in the resolution
@munkykng416
@munkykng416 4 жыл бұрын
What are the resolution options on a7r4? Can you lower it when you don't need all those megapixels?
@kenwiberg6517
@kenwiberg6517 4 жыл бұрын
If time is that important, I'm seeing how smart those engineers were in the M4/3 camp, especially in light of how much, large prints are generated and how much, low light shooting is done by the "average Joe" ...... hmmmmm
@joelbenford9327
@joelbenford9327 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ken, I do more than 50% in available light, so I'm the exception to "average Joe". But yeah, I think you're right for the great majority of people. Even though I'm currently trying to get to the bottom of who has the better full-frame IBIS at the extremes of stills handholding.
@kenwiberg6517
@kenwiberg6517 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelbenford9327 I appreciate your candor, not many people will be able to look at the "big picture" so objectively ......
@exit159
@exit159 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea is always completely adorable and tony's voice just makes my ears happy ...
@wassimal-malak2591
@wassimal-malak2591 4 жыл бұрын
from lebanon , i love you guys . because you're SO honest & helpful. thanks for all your efforts .
@psloss1
@psloss1 4 жыл бұрын
Who makes the leather 1/2 case that Tony has on his camera?
@RobCollins2015
@RobCollins2015 4 жыл бұрын
Love the way Chelsea puts the Sony UHSII card in the UHSI card slot of the A7r3!! But the A7Riv is worth it to me for the improved autofocus.....
@marchome
@marchome 4 жыл бұрын
Iam totally fine with the feelings of Chelsea
@MichaelSmithesq
@MichaelSmithesq 4 жыл бұрын
What lenses did you use? My experience with film (Panatomic-X) and a very good prime (Nikkor-P 105mm f2.5) showed a limit of about 200 lines/mm, which would equal approximately 30 megapixels on a full-frame digital camera. I have never found a zoom lens as sharp. Of course, my lens is 48 years old, and lens technology has improved, but there are limits. What are yours?
@eusufzai
@eusufzai 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the offer. Just purchased the eBook version.
@saiyan_princestudios9790
@saiyan_princestudios9790 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone else Sony Sony Sony. Me: but that Fuji xt4 announcement!
@nicholassmith7723
@nicholassmith7723 4 жыл бұрын
The XT4 looks amazing. The trouble I'd have with going to Fuji is there's no upgrade path to full frame and the lens reviews I've seen make me questions the library of glass. On paper they have plenty of glass, but in practice the lenses appear to be noisier and slower than what I'm getting on Sony.
@nicholassmith7723
@nicholassmith7723 4 жыл бұрын
The only Fuji camera I'd actually want to buy at this point is the X100V, if the price drops.
@marklarson3934
@marklarson3934 4 жыл бұрын
Why not buy the World's best camera that will stay relevant for 6 years. = ✅ Canon EOS R5
@saiyan_princestudios9790
@saiyan_princestudios9790 4 жыл бұрын
@@marklarson3934 fuji treats their customers right with great cameras, lenses, and constant real firmware updates that actually improve the camera over time and not just fix things that should have been fixed on release. FUJI FAN for life :)
@flashhog01
@flashhog01 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm a human with skin, I don't want that." Great point!
@veedubistjlbx3446
@veedubistjlbx3446 4 жыл бұрын
Love you guys! Thanx for everything y'all do!! 👍🏻
@pravinxp
@pravinxp 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony, may I know like from where you bought that leather base for your sony a7r4
@roderickwho1983
@roderickwho1983 4 жыл бұрын
Honest and forthright, as always. I really appreciated Tony's analogy to the 8 cylinder motorcar. Thanks C&T&J
@lukazupie7220
@lukazupie7220 4 жыл бұрын
i am keeping my old cheap 3 cylinder sony a6000:)
@gordonyz4
@gordonyz4 4 жыл бұрын
Should be like this: Apsc: sedan ff: suv R4: hummer h2 R3: Yukon
@lukazupie7220
@lukazupie7220 4 жыл бұрын
gordonyz4 hmm Yukon is bigger than hummer h2 tho:)
@rodrigo4379
@rodrigo4379 4 жыл бұрын
I shoot with my d750 with a 14-24 sigma for a couple of years and im supper happy, i tried a friends z6 and i wouldn’t trade my 750 for it
@aengusmacnaughton1375
@aengusmacnaughton1375 4 жыл бұрын
Tony/Chelsea -- what amount of time do you take to process (sort, keep, delete, preview) say 500 photos once you get them onto your computer? I have a Lumix G85 (what I could afford and works great for family photos), but I sometimes regret "blasting" photos at family events and then trying to sort out 200+ photos, many of them almost identical the shot right before/after -- it takes a lot of time to decide which ones to keep. Just wondering how you both do it -- and how much time you spend doing it?????
@johnscott1372
@johnscott1372 4 жыл бұрын
I have the A7III, what are your thoughts on shooting with the A7RIV in crop mode to shrink file size and to speed up processing when you don't need the full 61MP's? I'm torn between upgrading to the RIII or the RIV. I fear the RIV might be overkill for me.
@therocsinyahead1886
@therocsinyahead1886 4 жыл бұрын
Such BS ,In six months they'll be switching back from canon or to the next new thing. Both cameras are great & the points made are just an excuse to stay in the product hype biz.
@gewglesux
@gewglesux 4 жыл бұрын
I know how the D850 feels.... I've been dumped like that too....
@engjds
@engjds 3 жыл бұрын
Lets face it, she had noisy flaps, a loud stutter and grossy overweight.
@gewglesux
@gewglesux 3 жыл бұрын
@@engjds hehehhe..
@HIGHOCTANERC
@HIGHOCTANERC 4 жыл бұрын
Where do I go and purchase the Book?
@tracephoto1823
@tracephoto1823 4 жыл бұрын
Hows the sensor dust problem on the A7R III ?
@bluekeybo
@bluekeybo 4 жыл бұрын
"speed is important to me"...2 min later:"you can just take a panorama, you load them in Lightroom and click panorama, then it just takes a few minutes"
@TimurKaramov
@TimurKaramov 4 жыл бұрын
bluekeybo End then you trash the resulted image to avoid hours of correcting it.
@davejohn5876
@davejohn5876 4 жыл бұрын
@TimurKaramov They are referring to two different types of photography. Speed can be very important when shooting BIF for example. If it takes a long time for the cameras buffer to clear you're not shooting at all. A panorama does not require speed in the field. Plus the only way to create a panorama is to take time on the computer.
@MSchumacherfan
@MSchumacherfan 4 жыл бұрын
I shoot motorsports so buffering is a deal breaker. I’ll stay with my d850
@scb2scb2
@scb2scb2 4 жыл бұрын
R4 has 86 shots buffer in FF mode and about 250 in crop mode both numbers are bigger then on the D850. and images at 61 and 26 megapixels.
@lifeat35mm
@lifeat35mm 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, What is the leather camera grip on Tony’s camera?
@sabahatnaheed1435
@sabahatnaheed1435 4 жыл бұрын
Tony where did you get the brown case from and leather strap? Thank you in advance
@walkertongdee
@walkertongdee 4 жыл бұрын
Well this is a bummer listening to these rich people complaining about their ridiculously expensive equipment.
@Tomek_
@Tomek_ 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m switching to ... “ bet everyone is eager to hear such an original news :)
@peterlemke3468
@peterlemke3468 4 жыл бұрын
It's original till the next gushing review. Buy! Buy! Buy! Then jump ship to another camera or system and follow our affiliate links. This is less a photography channel and more a shopping channel. But we already knew that ha ha.
@milarovas4363
@milarovas4363 4 жыл бұрын
When does the A7R V come out? I'm waiting for a fully functional touchscreen and improved menu system.
@pauldowney7130
@pauldowney7130 4 жыл бұрын
Loved your approach on this one. Well done! 👍
@Madskilledswedishphotograper
@Madskilledswedishphotograper 4 жыл бұрын
I think people are obsessing over canon glass but forgets how they screw over their customers on a daily basis.... I mean the EOSR and RP are horrible cameras for anything. Glass is so expensive most non pro togs wont even get to buy them and they nerf/strangle the cameras to make them do 1 thing great and the rest awefull not to chip in on their other cameras. Never again canon!
@ianmowbray3284
@ianmowbray3284 4 жыл бұрын
You both over shoot. Stop it!!!!!
@KillingTheMost
@KillingTheMost 4 жыл бұрын
What?
@PrincessAshly
@PrincessAshly 4 жыл бұрын
It's digital, why not shoot as much as you want?
@romanpul
@romanpul 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrincessAshly Exactly! I have a 128GB XQD in my camera. That holds about 2k uncompressed RAWs. Because I got tired of having great shots with missed focus or other flaws I developed the habit of taking three to four shots of each composition. And with all that memory available to me I can just do that without ever running out of storage. So I don't think this is overshooting but rather a backup plan for making sure you are getting all the shots you want.
@Holdit66
@Holdit66 4 жыл бұрын
When does the offer start?
@YakAlmighty
@YakAlmighty 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly when it comes to photography the only thing I would want out of my R3 would be a 24 megapixel shooting mode so that when i shoot people they don't have to see the inside of their pores
@easyki
@easyki 4 жыл бұрын
They sold their soul to the devil
@rickvestuto
@rickvestuto 4 жыл бұрын
When will you guys be doing another photo critique eppisode ?? Regards Riki
@Tuvzii
@Tuvzii 2 жыл бұрын
what backpack is this at 2:37?
@jennifermedia6288
@jennifermedia6288 4 жыл бұрын
Which lenses did you have on these? I did move to sony after being a canon user and Fuji and I’m happy for Sony now except the screen resolution isn’t good and I had a big decision riv or riii And went with Chelsea too as the riv it could be too slow for me. It wouldn’t make it fun anymore if it’s too slow
@glenconverse1327
@glenconverse1327 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that leather case for the Sony a7RIV?
@justinholding02
@justinholding02 4 жыл бұрын
Probably a gift from Square space😅
@Blackriver69
@Blackriver69 4 жыл бұрын
I shot with the R3 from literally day one. All types of photography and loved it. Bought the R4 day one and love it. If I could I would stick the R3 sensor in the R4 simply to avoid the high ISO hit... which by my stigmatization is about 1.5 stops worse in the R4. The added noise does not clean up to the point of being equal upon down sampling. But between the two if I can only have one I'd still keep the R4. The R3 ISO performance was improved once with a firmware update so if they do the same with the R4 then it's a total win win. My favorite things about the R4 is that you can shoot in crop mode and still have 26mp and that you can store your custom settings on a memory card. Would not go back to the R3 at any price.
@jimmycourcelles7953
@jimmycourcelles7953 4 жыл бұрын
I asked a few month ago a friend that has a medium format and he told me he can't shoot wedding with that because the processing is just too much time consuming, they got a very good point here, what's the reason to have more MegaPixel if you miss the shot because the buffer is full ? I was blown away by the new 61 MPx sensor but then I'm like the vast majority of people will never gonna need that much. Great Video, this is by far the best photography channel.
@AlergicToSnow
@AlergicToSnow 4 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with really high megapixels. We are essentially saying millions of images taken 10-15 years ago at much lower mpx were a waste of time and should be ditched because they’re not nearly good enough.
@nick8945
@nick8945 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Just remember its all marketing, Sony needs to come out with something that sounds superior than its last product so they keep on making sales, 5mp is still fine in this day and age, no matter what camera manufacturers and marketers want you to use.
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