"I'm Not Wh!te, I'm Brazilian"

"I'm Not Wh!te, I'm Brazilian" #stitch #weoutchea #gullah #geechee #race #ethnicity #nationality #goldilocks #manvsbear #savior #karen sunnmcheaux.com weoutcheamerch.com @A&K Inc

[@forevercalirarebreed]

Crazy she doesn't understand Nationality and racism.

[@TititoDeBologay]

She does, but latinos like to pretend only the U.S. has the monopoly on segregation and racism.

[@Astro_oh]

I know right?

[@VieraXXII]

Thank you! That's what I commented. Got the world thinking Adriana Lima and Gisele Bundchen are true brazilians. Like they are white with brazilian nationalities😂.

[@marethahoneyb1541]

She understands, the proof is how quickly she stitches Sunn’s video captioning how Goldilocks is a wh!te child Ooh she understands she’s just playing victim using the weapons she knows has worked for centuries

[@marethahoneyb1541]

@victornieves1794🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lordgrape5015]

Who the hell says America is built on love? Ive never heard anybody make that argument in any setting lol.

[@DarthFurie]

Delulu was her solulu ☠️

[@CammieB520]

Right! I was so confused by that statement.

[@roxywyndham]

@@DarthFurie😂😂

[@churro6160]

She wasn't very clear, America is built on love to enslave others

[@TheMilkyWayGalaxy--he-they-it]

I see none of you are acquainted with my grandparents! XD “america was built on love for each other, it says in the bible to love thy neighbor and that’s what americans did, they came together to build this amazing country, the best country in the world”

[@oya-adjuasankofa7338]

Brazilian Miss Millie."I've always been so good to you people." 🥴

[@rbeeydwan4479]

Yup..that's miss millie 😂alright!

[@VieraXXII]

Yeeeeesss! Omg. That's what it is! 😂😂😂 good call out

[@Rosemary46840]

Yea that line itself is what racist white people have been saying since being slave owners and still say now 🤮

[@janforreal2644]

😂😂😂

[@autumnjade815]

Good one! Wow! 😂

[@jojoone1099]

I thought Brazilians put people in racial categories based on phenotype. The desire to gaslight and virtue signal in this one is strong.

[@NeonKodiak]

we do, she should be highly aware that being pale as fuck means she is considered white and privileges come with that. in fact, not even in Brazil would people look at her and call her mixed she'd be labeled as a white woman. Unlike other Brazilians who are visibly mixed but light skin who are considered white in Brazil but the moment they step into the US or Europe are labeled as non-white.

[@sheWhoisHeard]

Talk truth

[@heathertea2704]

Welllllll! ☕️

[@marethahoneyb1541]

You’re absolutely correct as do every group of ppl n she knows it

[@BLACKONCODE2024]

Brazil just had a white supremacist President elected during Covid that was talking about genocide of Indigenous Brazilians and African Brazilians when he won💯

[@Thewitchofwildlife]

If one person can make you angry enough to walk away from a movement you claim to be a part of, then you were never truly a part of that movement to begin with. Bye 👋🏾

[@celondelon351]

This, all while centering herself for clout.

[@Santiago-in1xf]

She filmed it for the history and shared videos...she was in it for the gram. If she were actually a part of the movement, she'd have mea culpa'd and taken the L. I've taken the L on things that didn't land how I intended. It's easy to run away, takes courage to admit fault and build your rep back up.

[@theroyalcrane]

I look at it as... the L is temporary, the learning and growth is forever. Peace and many blessings! ​@Santiago-in1xf

[@Volundur9567]

It's always gotta be 'bout them

[@novidsinthischannel]

And that's to say nothing of the level of privilege one must have to do that.

[@Lambspascuant]

If you look "white enough" for people to consider you white in America, then isn't that sort of the whole point? If we lived in a perfect world where we never categorized or judged anybody on their appearance, and instead somehow had access to not only their whole family tree but actually none of that matters because we could immediately understand the content of their character and judged them only on that... she might have had a point? But that isn't real life. It's kind of like when people insist they are "color blind". Our education, healthcare, political, and criminal justice systems are demonstrably, quantifiably not color blind.

[@mommyofkittens4809]

What in the white savior complex is this woman?

[@danielw7290]

😂

[@LilyBell-Beneaththecrust2023]

@mommyofkittens, heeeeeeee he he. 😄😁😆😅🤣😂

[@pluviarium]

Aht aht, pale-skinned Brazillian savior.

[@ellanina801]

Omg this comment tho 🤣

[@keeblertime1486]

People like you are why she said what she said.

[@darkseid9391]

Brazil was built on racism the favelas are their version of the projects and it’s a bunch of black Brazilians living rough

[@ellejaydotson5406]

She has a mixed child. I feel sorry for that child. She will gaslight that child’s experiences with race to the point of dysfunction.

[@DarthFurie]

As soon as somebody pulls out the "I have a mixed child" when they're getting dragged for ignorance, I just stop listening 😂

[@Volundur9567]

She just wanna swirl to have pawns

[@chantristrammell6088]

She will use her child's DNA to justify why she's being treated unjustly.

[@me0on0utube]

She responded to me that she had a mixed child and I asked her "is that the new I have a black friend?"

[@DarthFurie]

​@@me0on0utube that's exactly the problem, it's tokenism and it's weird as heck

[@ohbooyourselves]

Also Carolyn Bryant doesn't need to be prefixed with "Racist" Her name is enough to get the point.

[@IndomitableAde]

Right? When I read it I thought "that's redundant." 😆

[@evilsharkey8954]

She’s talking about the other Carolyn Bryant, who was objectively more racist and got a boy tortured and killed because of her lies

[@NiKiMa023]

@@evilsharkey8954wait, this is the Carolyn Bryant I know, who’s every one else talking about 🤔

[@realniqqa101]

Sis, said all lives matter she proved the point. You can be white and Latino/Hispanic. Race and ethnicity aren't the same.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

She also said that whilst spreadin lies about a Black man in an attempt to ruin his life; showin she clearly doesnt walk the walk of someone who actually believes all lives actually matter... And doesnt just say it to downplay her racism

[@PunishedFelix]

Pretty sure anyone saying all lives matter in 2024 is either completely ignorant and stupid or they know 100% what they're signalling, and I can't quite tell which one it is for her

[@Cemi_Mhikku]

@@SylviaRustyFae That's true of anyone I've ever heard utter those three words in that context. They don't understand what they're talking about and are just upset they're not included, while being certain that they know far better than the people trying to correct them. Sometimes people like that even say the quiet part aloud and tell people to sit down and let them represent us. Legit had that happen to me at one point.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

@@Cemi_Mhikku Yeah no, no one who actually believes that all lives matter wud ever actually say all lives matter

[@WhatIsSanity]

@@Cemi_Mhikku Wow you just described my younger self. ☹I used to say those three words for exactly the reasons you described, it took many years for me to learn better. It's so easy to get stuck in a shell of ignorance, school, pop media and the people I grew up with were never going to give me another perspective and help me understand just how deeply ingrained into my society bigotry is. How deeply it was/is a part of myself. Even though it strongly contradicted my values, even though I held no hate in my heart for poc, I was still racist and I had no idea. The way children are treated the things we teach them, it leaves us a tangled web of confusion and bitterness that takes a lot of time, care, patience and people to help untangle us. I'm not asking for sympathy or such, I just wanted to further explain how and why you're spot on with your comment. I hope there are more people out there like me that have escaped that web of lies, and lead empathetic and compassionate lives as a result. I hope they can forgive themselves and move on to fight the good fight.

[@faith6575]

Just like there are white and black Americans, there are white and black Brazilians as well. Brazilian is not a race lol. You can be white and also be Brazilian. Her DNA would definitely have more white, than African ancestry.

[@jenniferrandolph4115]

@faith6575 Yes! The same with Cubans & Puerto Ricans!

[@vlogily8043]

There are also dark skinned non-Afro Latinos and fairer skinned brown Latinos as well, it’s a whole spectrum, white people are also a spectrum, almost like race was just made up one day by morons……hmmmm naw that can’t be true

[@hellzbelle229]

I know very little about Brazil, but I remember quite a few Brazilians flipping out because Nayara Justino, who was chosen for the Globeleza carnival queen in 2013, was "Black." Lots of commentary about her being too dark, being more fitting as a maid, and that the title was "supposed" to be held by a light skinned woman. There were, of course, people who had no issue, but enough did that the outcry was deafening. Justino got actual threats and had her title rescinded with no reason or warning given. That does not sound like a society that doesn't categorize people by racial phenotype.

[@YOUR-WORD-IS-YOUR-BOND]

STOP THINKING PEOPLE WITH MELANATED SKIN TONES ALL CAME FROM AFRICA... THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ALL BEEN ABLE TO FIT JUST IN AFRICA...

[@faith6575]

@@hellzbelle229 I remember that. It was so evil what they did to that beautiful woman. Goes to show you that they absolutely see themselves as being white. There’s obviously a color spectrum, but some people here in America want to benefit off that one drop rule.

[@AT-rr2xw]

From Wikipedia: Brazil was the last nation in the Western world to abolish slavery, and by then it had imported an estimated 4,000,000 slaves from Africa. This was 40% of all slaves shipped to the Americas.

[@Apixi]

But bm have they're preference lol

[@sacredgeometry]

Yeah but they weren't stupid enough to confuse slavery with race.

[@NaturalMackie]

They have the largest population of blk people outside of Africa and only second to Nigeria.

[@sacredgeometry]

@@NaturalMackie Nigeria is in Africa

[@Boohurghhoo]

​@@NaturalMackieidky I have a hard time believing that but I do. I mean ig outside of Africa yea maybe...but 2nd to Nigeria...? Ototf of counting north America, and other parts of the carribean esp like Jamaica Bahamas Haiti..either way you have a big population of black folks and their influence yet you still dk how to act around/with them

[@MsBaldhead1]

Does she mean that Brazilians can’t be white?? I wasn’t aware that the two are mutually exclusive.

[@Zectifin]

theres a lot of latin americans who don't understand that Spanish and Portuguese are white lol.

[@camelopardalis84]

@@Zectifin Is it Latin Americans who don't? Or US Americans who at best themselves were born in Mexico or further South or who even only have ancestors who were born there?

[@johnmckiernan2176]

Yeah, Gisele Bundchen, a Brazilian woman with a German name? She must be a person of colour...LOL.

[@DarthFurie]

Not for nothing, but is shorty okay? What is she even prattling on about. Social media has made so many weirdos think they deserve a platform

[@josephinethornton3823]

She filmed a statue being taken down. So she's on the. . . Front lines of her mind for sure.

[@alexandraapley9883]

😂

[@awesomealexanders690]

She's giving "look at what I've done for you people" vibes. I was waiting for the tears, because we know how powerful they can be.

[@sacredgeometry]

Does she think that she is saying something profound?

[@novidsinthischannel]

Seems that delusional to me.

[@noirmative9293]

The video felt like an hour-long explanation about absolutely nothing.

[@IndomitableAde]

Yes. Yes she does.

[@the_nikster1]

she legit thinks she is spitting lol

[@TheBlackNostalgiaNerd]

She Indeed does sad

[@MrGorillafist]

Unless that woman is indigenous then she's white. The Portuguese (who are white) brutally colonized Brazil so if she's of Portuguese descent she does not get to pretend being white/descended from colonizers doesn't apply to her. Also anyone who threatens to walk away from a movement after being called out for slipping up isn't a part of that movement because it's the right thing, they're likely doing it for clout.

[@marethahoneyb1541]

Indigenous aren’t wh!te because wh!te folks aren’t indigenous to anywhere n clearly she isn’t Black, we have allowed folks to fool our eyes

[@TheForrest05]

Could've had some Confederates get in on the mix. Lots went down there.

[@helens-u6606]

Besides the invasion of the Portuguese, Brazil also suffered the influx of other white European to whiten the population deemed too dark-skinned after trafficking, enslaving and then having to ‘release’ people of African descent. This is all widely documented.

[@pvp6077]

💯💯💯

[@pvp6077]

​@@TheForrest05 lmao so no one told you about the great nazi migration? Practically all white people in Argentina are nazis (and their descendants) who moved in after WW2. They're all over South America, Brazil included.

[@PaddySnuffles]

As a Brazilian woman with light skin, I just want to point out that Brazilians don't consider all Latinos to be PoC. Going "I'm Brazilian, not white" is NOT the status quo. She is either lying about being Brazilian or being intentionally obtuse.

[@sparingsparrow]

THIS! for some reason my friends at school tell me I'm not white because I'm Brazilian even though they wouldn't be able to tell I'm Latino just from how I look. there are people of all races in Brazil and Latin America and it's ridiculous to boil race down to nationality/where you come from

[@camelopardalis84]

US American brain rot at play. The US is obsessed with what it calls "race". Where I live, only the most outspoken racists use the word "race" when talking about human beings.

[@MsMarmima]

The way she digs her own grave is astounding lol. At what point will people understand what they say out of their own mouths. Sunn doesn't need to add anything else, this speaks for itself

[@beverlyobasiolu]

Exactly which is why he said nothing in this post. Clever man ❤

[@the_nikster1]

…did…did she just say “all lives matter” and think she was spitting? 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@soupalex]

it's giving "i'm colorblind!"

[@the_nikster1]

@@soupalex yes! it’s not a good look…

[@Boohurghhoo]

In her defense she went down the list, started & stated clearly how much she adores, supports heavily melanated ppl and their movements.

[@cactusbeau7102]

⁠@@Boohurghhoo if she did support the movements then why do this? 🤨

[@Boohurghhoo]

@@cactusbeau7102 my statement was meant to be satirical/sarcastic😭😭. I said on another comment if she's poc so bad she should know it's not just "movements/supporting movements".

[@edwardallenpoe7764]

When she said "you want to turn people away from your movements" I was immediately done listening to her. If you feel you do not want to support a human rights movement anymore because a marginalized person made you uncomfortable bc they made you confront your bigotry, you never were a part of the movement babe. You liked some Facebook posts that said "BLM" four years ago and that was it. I feel bad for her kid, honestly. An Asian person can be the rudest person on the planet to me and treat me like DOGWATER and I STILL wouldn't stop supporting Asian rights. Same for any other movement. It's not about being nice. It's about having the right to live as human beings.

[@ballz2thawall695]

Well said 👏🏾👏🏾

[@fatimascrying]

exactly. if ur support is conditional then ur not supporting a cause for the right reasons or with the right intent

[@flowerperson581]

when she says "you're turning people away from your movements" she's implictly applying that racist pressure of "you as an individual are a representative of your race." funny how that never applies to white people

[@ohbooyourselves]

Ok but why are we slapping our face...? 😂

[@Volundur9567]

She needta get color in it somehow

[@IndomitableAde]

So I could say, "just a little harder now"

[@n.anderson5938]

Maybe she’ll knock some sense into herself? 🥴

[@kristenadams2984]

@@Volundur9567 🤣🤣

[@FujishimaAkiko]

Because that's what you generally do with an exposed ass?

[@jay15951]

Wtf was she even on about?

[@pierregibson6699]

Her clout

[@IndomitableAde]

I zoned out.

[@aedes947]

I gave up before half the video.

[@soupalex]

​@@aedes947 i wish i could stay the same. stuck around thinking that either she would eventually arrive at something resembling a point, or that the good professor would take us to school. i think i'm more confused for having watched it all the way through!

[@MrTransgeneration]

I don’t even understand what she’s talking about. It was like listening to one of our former president’s speeches.

[@alexandraapley9883]

Or ANY president at that lol

[@marethahoneyb1541]

@@alexandraapley9883Spot On

[@staciebrooks2583]

You mean our current president?

[@cocobrez]

She could really use some shea butter; I notice a lot of dryness in her feelings.

[@tees9135]

😂😂😂

[@BroadwayDuchess13]

Not the shea butter! 😂😂😂

[@cwalker6911]

Disappointing but very unsurprising given she was trying to switch the original point and continues to do so all in an effort to center herself.

[@lyn1.6]

Since when was Brazilian a race? It's a nationality. Her is nationality Brazilian, she is racially white. Also, it's interesting that she said that he might cause her to stop fighting for the rights of black people. I guess that she's all for fighting for "the people" until someone doesn't agree with her, then it's every man for himself.

[@ShoulderMonster]

She's nationally Brazilian, racially white/European, and ethnically probably mostly Portuguese.

[@cheezarose]

Brazilian is a nationality not an ethnicity.

[@lyn1.6]

@@ShoulderMonster Thank you.

[@lyn1.6]

@@cheezarose Thank you.

[@skinnydude89]

Lol I love how she’s upset about people responding to her when she stuck her nose in something that wasn’t directed at her in the first place 😂

[@kreyolLA84]

That was a very hurt response. Never let someone make you forget your values and principles for the sake of protecting your ego. Doing right shouldn't be contingent upon whether or not you're liked.

[@tlrcarroll]

It’s giving very much “I claim to be an ally until my feelings get bruised cuz my feelings supersede any true oppression.” 😂

[@notconvincedgranny6573]

I thought to be Brazilian means you were born in Brazil...

[@deldarel]

Wild how she says her anti-racism is conditional and still thinks she's in the right.

[@Sleepless_Sam]

The truly virtuous don't need to signal it.

[@LilyBell-Beneaththecrust2023]

Ms. Brazilians, we don't give a flying flip if you leave the movement. You were never a part of it anyway. It all comes out eventually. I guess you leaving the movement is going to devastate us in your mind. How racist is that?

[@tomservo5007]

Brazilian is a race?!?!

[@faith6575]

I’m saying!

[@pierregibson6699]

😂nope….but she doesn’t know the difference between race and nationality 😂

[@cherti]

"My original question was about age, and you tried to flip that" Sunn's original question was about race, and she flipped that!

[@halfforeignamericana5451]

It’s surprising that she’s saying this and she’s Brazilian, bc they see race as what’s visible, not what’s in your genetics. My Brazilian teacher taught me so much, and she used to say everyone in her family would be a diff race based off their classification Edit: also threatening to revoke your support for a group when they call you out, just meant you were never really in support 🤎

[@MrGorillafist]

I thought the exact same thing. I've never heard something like that come from someone who wasn't trying to be emotionally manipulative.

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

I’m not white, I’m just a pale skinned Norseman.

[@savoeunmao4365]

My (mixed) kids, when they were very small, used to tell their friends that. “Mom isn’t white, she’s Norwegian.” Thanks for the defense sweeties, but I actually am white.

[@savoeunmao4365]

Also, I have always called them my bears ( and I’m Mama Bear) and I would definitely rather meet THEM in the woods or in my bedroom than anyone or anything else in the world.

[@christiecrispie8351]

And uv gotta love the holding people's livelihoods and their deserved acceptance in the society they were born in over their heads as soon I they criticize your actions I wonder who's usually had the privilege to choose wether they cared or not about activism and civil/human rights 🤔

[@Singer_and_Songwriter]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@SholtoMaru]

Good lord she jumped through every single hoop except "I can't be racist, I have a black friend!" Though I guess her 'mixed' child is filling that position just fine. Using her child and family members as props to prove that she's not racist is... honestly pretty racist! She pushed so hard and tried so much to prove she's not a racist and boy howdy, she even said all lives matter with her whole chest and just doesn't see the irony. Someone so convinced she's a good, 'woke' person that she trips and falls over every single stereotype of white allyship... absolutely amazing.

[@yehooyahoo6861]

She’s running the flapper about what WE flipped and gets to completely ignore the FACTS that you pointed out. “I was talking about age” Then why not address that it was clarified for simple minds that the age in the scenario did not matter. When you put it on that hypothetical BM that he was creeping. Like it’s so Wild West out here bro

[@catflon2388]

So nationality and ethnicity=race now? And advocacy, having a mixed child by a BM and allyship= understanding being black in this world? Got it 😂😂

[@MisterIncog]

“I’m not racist, I have a black husband!!”

[@josephinethornton3823]

Well she did say mixed race. And since she self identifies as a pale Brazilian, that mix could be worth a pale Norwegian. Who knows? She did not clarify. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MikeStavola]

I knew this woman, she was white as snow, bright red hair, and was partially Puerto Rican. Now, I don't know quite how Puerto Rican she was, because her parents looked like super white happy neighbors in a 1950s sitcom, and it wasn't really my business. But it's valid to this story. And because of her heritage, she called herself brown. But any time it benefitted her to be white, she'd say she was white. And on top of that, other white folks treated her with all the perks of her skin color, without a second thought. But if things didn't work out or she was called white, she was the vengeful, hateful recipient of racism. Especially online. It was actually really frustrating, and that kind of mindset was why I couldn't be her friend.

[@IndomitableAde]

Generous and patient to give so much time on your platform to someone who used a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing.

[@BetterMe981]

😂... In multitasking, badly clearly, I glanced at your comment and thought it read, "Generous to give the patient so much time on your platform..." But yes, for real he was.

[@punkroxgirl]

Wow, that was so dramatic, lol…and defensive, passive aggressive, and pompous all at the same time and i still don’t really know what she was trying to say. Clearly this damsel in distress needs to find a safe quiet space and just enjoy her pumpkin spice latte.

[@averymetagal]

"proving" is such a red flag. There is no amount of effort or such that exempts you from the CAPABILITY to do racist things. And the worst part is that when you tell yourself that you could never do anything racist, cognitive dissonance will just make you blind to anything racist you do. It seems like she means well to some extent, but the worst of things are often done with the best of intentions. Wouldn't mean to be racist =/= couldn't be racist.

[@me0on0utube]

I gotta say I'm one of those ppl who responded to her videos. I called her out every step of the way

[@DaniDoyle]

"guess you're losing a supporter of that movement" 🤣 love people telling on themselves like that. As soon as they face any criticism it's full mask off

[@cmartins1340]

As a Brazilian white woman, I feel very embarrassed by this. I want to bury in my head in the sand. I can give context tho on what she means when she says “I’m not white, I’m Brazilian”. It’s because in the US and Europe, we are latinos. So since she apparently lives in the US, she may have similar experiences as people from Mexico, Colombia, etc, rather than other white Americans. For example, there’s a lot of xenophobia towards Brazilians in Portugal and Ireland now bc we’re latinos and not white for them. She is still full of shit tho.

[@RK-dc2es]

I get it, like I'm Ashkenazi and its so cringe seeing other Ashkenazim be like "I'm not white, I'm Jewish". You're a white Jew, dude. We *are* targeted by the violence of white supremacism but we also benefit greatly from white privilege, it's complicated. We're pretty much white UNTIL we run into a white supremacist who does not perceive us as such, thus stripping away the protection of whiteness. That is not the same thing as being a POC though. But yeah they don't get it, they only clock the "targeted by the violence of white supremacism" bit and just run wild with it.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

I'm a white Irish woman but I've been living in Scotland for 7 years. There's racism everywhere, but I thought in Ireland it was more xenophobic ignorance rather than pure racist hatred. In the past 5 years especially things have gone crazy and "foreigners" are used as a scapegoat for everything by an emerging far right. It's abhorrent! My Mam was at a bus stop in Dublin and this a-hole local stood up and started a passive aggressive racist rant at a young Brazilian woman. After challenging the man verbally and giving as good as she got, she turned to my mother and said, "What do you have to say for him?". My Mam made it clear he had nothing to do with her, invited the lady to sit beside her, and they chatted while completely ignoring the ranting maniac who was still going! They shared ear phones and listened to music to drown him out. Immigrants are, and always have been, a boon for Irish society and contribute so much by choosing Ireland as their new home. A particularly singular example: Caio Benicio is a Brazilian man who, at great risk to himself, defended a woman and two young children from a knife wielding attacker. He is a HERO in Ireland. I heard he is running for political office in Dublin. No better man!

[@FujishimaAkiko]

Yes, but in the United States, NO ONE would look at her and go "Oh, she's Latinx!" She looks like your average, European white woman. I wouldn't have guessed any bit of "Brazilian". She even sounds like an American, and Brazilian isn't a race or ethnicity, it's a nationality. I was born in Japan, I'm mixed black and Ainu, but I'm not Japanese, except for my nationality. That girl needs to stop and put the shut to the up. If she had said something like she's Pardo, OK, but she didn't, she dropped her "I'm not white" ish while looking every bit of white.

[@pvp6077]

Not all South Americans are Hispanic or even remotely related, just fyi. There's a metric f-ton of pure German nazi stock keeping the racial purity train running all over Brazil, Argentina, and the rest of South America who have nothing to do with the European Portuguese colonists who the rest of the whites are descended from.

[@jaydengreenberg9618]

@@RK-dc2esI think you just summed up how in America, whiteness is based on purity. Ashkenazi Jews, Pale Latinos, Pale Middle Easterners and anyone else who has non European admixture despite looking "white" isn't considered white. This is why we had words like "octoroon", "quintroon" or whatever to describe varying levels of blackness, or why Elizabeth Warren tried to identify as Native American. You can have someone who's 1/8 Filipino try to say they aren't white but "white passing" because of their Asian admixture. In Latin American countries like Brazil, these terms don't exist, and all these groups would get labelled as white.

[@theklr]

Must be nice to opt of of being an ally supporting “all” lives

[@TheKrispyfort]

I had to back track through the videos to comprehend the fuller story. A man: In the woods, bear or man? Women: 🐻 Men: we're offended by this decision Professor: Black men, in your cabin, a white woman called Goldilocks or a 🐻? Some woman: Goldilocks is a child! How dare you deviate from what I believe a fictitious story character show be. I am going to miss the point entirely so I can shake my fist at you. Professor: Here's an example of white women being offended. Some woman: I'm not white! I'm offended. He's out to get me!! I did not know Goldilocks was also Brazilian

[@TheKrispyfort]

For context - I'm a white passing woman of diverse ancestry (Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe), I heard "woman", and comprehend the need for Black Men to be choosing the bear 😢

[@djoy4ly317]

thanks for backstory! 🙋🏾‍♀

[@rockinslugz]

I don't understand this discourse like, at all. I understood the original video Sunn made, but I don't understand why she felt the need to stitch in an ultimately meaningless distinction, and I have no idea what she's trying to say now. It feels like an overreaction, but what's she ACTUALLY SAYING?

[@soupalex]

nowt

[@soupalex]

okay that's not entirely true. she's saying: "i'm mad because someone pointed out that something i said was racist (whether i originally knew it or not). rather than reflecting on this, i'm going to tie myself in knots trying to say that _they're_ the racist ones, because i'm not white, even though i'm white, and they should be grateful that i'm on their side (i took some pictures of a statue being taken down), because i could just as easily _not_ be." i think that's about it.

[@rockinslugz]

@@soupalex What did she say that was racist? Was she trying to imply black people would r*pe Goldilocks?

[@djoy4ly317]

@@soupalex That is the most excellent explanation of her pitty-pat nonsensical rambling.

[@rockinslugz]

@@soupalex What is it specifically that she said in the original video that was racist? I didn't catch that either

[@jeremyprovence4942]

The book " White Skin, White Masks" by Frantz Fanon helps explain her dilema.

[@RK-dc2es]

Black Skin, White Masks you mean?

[@roxywyndham]

@@RK-dc2esyes that’s what they meant

[@jeremyprovence4942]

@@RK-dc2es My mistake.

[@andreabrown4541]

Not sure any of you have read this book or just didn't understand it.

[@jeremyprovence4942]

@andreabrown4541 Every person has pain. My pain is not yours, and vice versa racism ,colonialism, and patriarchy have affected all of us. I am on a journey to decolonize. Your skepticism is warranted and understandable.

[@undercookedtoast1479]

She says she’s brazilian but she is speaking fluent yapanese, very interesting

[@savvivixen8490]

"yap-anese"????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀👻

[@chergray9410]

Right??! Omgoodness . . . Yapanese??! Im sorry but that is brilliant.

[@mcclurge]

So did the slave masters and slave patrol

[@deniciadarling5611]

Pointing out that Goldilocks was a "child" (in the version she was thinking of) only serves to quadruple the danger of the scenario. Thus quadruply proving Sunn's point...

[@ivybee347]

Lose a supporter...... If you leave because of adversity and criticism, you were in it for you, not to actually help.

[@kristenadams2984]

Holy cow. She doubled down.

[@classycasual3910]

She really pulled the "all lives matter" line?!? 😭

[@joannacarpenter6438]

I honestly don't believe she could have presented herself in a more unflattering way. She just came off as very condescending and passive-aggressive. Ick.

[@teresaabrown8077]

It is what it is. You don't get a Pass. We don't Get a Pass. Even if you have mixed Children or a Mixed Dog or Cat!! 😂😂 ✌ ❤ 👊

[@litchielitch0323]

Oh my. I pray for her mixed child.

[@patriciaZMarie2867]

I am just a white woman, but I thought race, and nationality were two different things. My current husband is Puerto Rican and I asked him in his country are "white" skinned Hispanics treated differently then Hispanics that are darker. He said absolutely. If you're too light with light hair light eyes, you are seen as different in rich or elite in that type of way. The darker you are the more you're looked at as poor or trouble and don't know much. But the olive/tan looking skin then you are the face of what Puerto Ricans should be, you're now appreciated, respected, genuine. But he said just as here in America the darker your Puerto Rican skin is the more disrespected and judged you will be. Race does exist in Hispanic countries too.

[@plutonian_accountant]

Having black and/or Indigenous family members is way different from saying her own mama is black/Indigenous. It implies that those family members either married into the family or cousins that are offspring of interracial marriage. Homegirl is a white Brazilian with strong Portuguese ancestry

[@nakiarebel8019]

I'm a descendant of Ancient Americans and enslaved Africans, and I have a purple crayon.

[@buttereggproductions9996]

Not the "ALL LIVES MATTER" in 2024

[@segara04]

France Winddance Twine literally wrote a book on how what she was saying is BS. Blightness (word that rhymes with this of course) is a helluva drug.

[@lemoncholyme]

Her rhetoric is confusing. Is she saying that while other people have a race, she doesn't? How is her child mixed then?

[@WhatIsSanity]

She was so close when pointing out how people react to her pale skin and perceive her as white, she almost got it for a second. Last time I checked racists weren't doing genetic testing before deciding how to treat people. You look white you are treated white, That's how it is. We don't get a choice about who our genetic parents are just as we don't get to choose how others will react to that, we can only do our best to learn, grow and not carry that hate into how we treat others. Then share that wisdom.

[@gracegrrl007]

I love Sunn's audience, because I will be the first to fully admit: when I first watched this video, I didn't fully get it or see what the problem was. That was my own comfort as a white woman talking; I'm so far removed from the issue that I genuinely did not see a problem with what she said on a first viewing. Then I read the comments. Within SECONDS, I realized exactly what was so wrong, watched the video a second time, and picked up on the red flags I had missed in my own biases before. Y'all teach me as much as the professor sometimes, and I thank you for that because I'll be the first to admit I get it very, very wrong sometimes. And that's why I'm here! To learn and to unlearn! Thank you all for being a bunch of intelligent, earnest people who call out bullcrap when you see it. Thank you for keeping me in check. I appreciate y'all.

[@PanEtRosa]

yeah, likewise. I wasn't aware of the history with this person, so I wasn't entirely sure where she was coming from until she said "all lives matter", then I had a pretty good idea but still lacked context. grateful to the folks here for filling it in.

[@legallydeclaredbroke]

Somebody tell Karin (catch!) we don’t need her faux support.

[@mzmoemission6256]

I visited São Paulo Brazil twice. It was the most racist country I have ever been to. I was surprised how people who were clearly mixed treated black Brazilians so bad. I had to show my Canadian documents in order to access spaces that were for tourists “white” preferably. As long as you were black from Europe or North America it was fine but you had to prove it. They shamelessly admitted that they were screening to ensure that black Brazilians were not pretending they were foreigners in order to access “white spaces”. At stores I had to prove I was a foreigner in order to be served with dignity. Again! They had no problem with black Americans , Europeans or Canadians. They were simply not having any black Brazilians in upscale establishments. This woman with her support for “all lives” is the epitome of Brazilian privilege. Brazilians who look like her, do not represent themselves as black or mixed in Brazil. In Brazil they identify as white.

[@LittleGrayMouse]

I don't believe I recognize that Brazilian accent.

[@cocolyndon4604]

According to Brazilian society and government, those in there community that look like her are legally considered white and are prejudice toward darker skin Brazilians. Their society is no different from India's caste system.

[@redcapphony]

This is what it looks like when you do zero self-reflection

[@cheezarose]

Isn't the reason why Brazil have pale skin people is because those are the descendants of white colonisers. Pale skin didn't naturally exist in Brazil before the Portuguese. She definitely has majority European ancestry.

[@moonshinershonor202]

We still on this? We outcha

[@YAWSSSSSS]

Brazil has its own issues with racism. Especially against the indigenous population.

[@borgCube100]

There are Black Irish people. There are Asian Irish people. There are White Irish people (well, obviously lol). That doesn't mean they aren't black. Or Asian. Or White. It also doesn't take away from them being Irish. But it doesn't mean that a black person is white for being Irish, like is that what she is trying to say? It's very late here and am confused. This woman might have Brazilian Ancestry and Nationality - but she is White. Or am I missing something? Like what is going on here? Is she really trying to say that because she took an insta photo of her "tearing down the statues" that she can say anything and claim to be something she's not? I am not trying to belittle her ancestry or anything either.

[@lovelee1772]

Chillleee all that yapping and she doesn't know that Brazilian is NOT a race?! I love when they tell us they have mixed-race children😂🙄

[@justinjones8583]

Great example of FAAFO. I love the push to keep people accountable. Wish she chose the road of debate instead of a surprised victim of ‘hate’.

[@availanila]

The scream I scrumt!!! She did it, didn't she? She opened her mouth, took out her phone and said all that! 😭😭

[@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts]

I am just not sure what she is speaking on since we went from statues to Emmett Till to BLM to...I don't even know where. This was confusing and I hope that she has made her point. I am lost. 🤷‍♀

[@byoutifulmusic]

Somewhere.. a young melaninated sis is saying - aptly - “she thought she ate” 🤭

[@toothcruncher]

waitwaitwait, did she say she might literally revoke her support of black, brown, and asian lives bc she doesnt like how ppl are interacting w her??? but somehow shes in the right here?? what ridiculousness

[@TheHomegirlHealer]

Brazil is a place and not a race silly! 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️

[@KhaoticKiNG]

As soon as her struggling intellectually, she said all lives. I already knew how she was going to make a horribly bad take. Karen's gonna karen.

[@julia-jn5zx]

Her talking about the statues as if she cannot possibly be wrong or prejudiced because she posted about taking down racist statues is so annoying and her saying “idk if you all are trying to lose a supporter of these movements” as if her support is something so amazing and important that we should all be grateful for is rediculous and if she’s indicating that she won’t do her performative activism if she doesn’t get praise for it is so stupid. Just because she was against old racist statues doesn’t make her a martyr or make her able to relate to the experience of racism

[@AzaleaJane]

"be nice to me or I'll stop being an ally" ?

[@8lec_R]

Oh also. You can uphold white power structures while being brown and from the subcontinent. I realized that a while ago from a video by a white comrade. It doesn't matter what your race or nationality is, colonial mindsets are rife throughout the world whether or not the people living there agree or disagree with the past or present colonial powers.

[@m.ayeshaedwards7602]

Girl what? Why does she feel like she can walk away from a movement if she is just pale skinned or light skinned? She is either pale skinned or an Ally. Pick one you can’t be both.

[@surgeland9084]

I mean there are white-passing people of colour (i myself am one) but part of that experience is understanding the privilege you hold in contrast to your darker cousins. It's not a card to hold up when someone calls you on saying something dumb. And also... there are white Brazilians. Like obviously, there are.

[@Geolstud]

A lot of Germans fled to brazil in the 1940’s.

[@F.R.A.N.K.I.E]

Funny that she thinks we care about losing her support. Girl, bye.

[@NiKiMa023]

If that’s all it takes to lose it, was she really down? From this video sounds like she was around for photo ops, but I’m sure she’s been more heavily involved than that

[@F.R.A.N.K.I.E]

@@NiKiMa023 that's exactly what it's giving. How can support for an entire group be so easily erased by one person you disagree with?

[@mistermyself1128]

White is a reference to an ethnicity. Brazil is a country with different ethnicities. Culture, Nationality and Ethnicity are not interchangeable words and do not mean the same things.

[@kaorufan8]

This woman is WILD for saying that bs, because I'm light skinned, like full on passing, but never get told I'm white. Instead I get "no but what are you, where are you really from." Like, she's white white, I was damn near shocked she didn't say it with the H. Being Brazilian doesn't magically stop her from being white, it's no different than Kat von diphtheria saying she's not white, she's Mexican and German Argentinian. And especially with the way this woman is behaving, that's peak WPS t.t

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

As a pale skin Brazilian I wonder if she’s taken a DNA test, just curiosity. I 100% believe she is Brazilian culturally but I bet my bottom dollar her family has a long history of mixing with Europeans whether it’s by will or by force. People really need to learn the difference between nationality, ethnicity and culture. Tons of people are born in one country but raised in another and is a totally different ethnicity from what’s dominant in the first two. Example: Born in France, raised in the US and is Nigerian.

[@Columbiana777]

She has the privilege of missing the point.😔🤦‍♀️

[@JoanRudith]

Folks want to be “down” until they are told that something they’re doing is still problematic then they are the victims. The reality is we all still carry thoughts and behaviors we are still picking apart and unlearning. There has to be room to self correct. If you’d rather leave a whole “movement” than self correct, I mean… that says it all.

[@k5elevencinc0]

Descendant of Portugal or Spain. Can't hide it.