I'M SHOCKED! THE BEST TRACTOR TIRE TREAD FOR SNOW & ICE!⚡❄️🚜

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We think it's so cool that we can take polls of our tractor community to get more information for ourselves and to share with everyone. We recently took a poll of everyone's favorite tire tread for snow and ice. We'll cover the results and share our interpretation and our personal viewpoint.
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@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
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@Krombop.M
@Krombop.M 6 ай бұрын
I was the very first vote on that poll. For a brief moment, R3 had 100% of the vote.
@63mbob
@63mbob 6 ай бұрын
Hi Courtney. I live where we average 170 inches of snow a season. Everyone in my neighborhood uses R3s. Just saying.
@phild9813
@phild9813 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, turf tires are far and away the best tire in the majority of snow conditions. Anything else is a compromise, but most people have to compromise when it comes to tractor tires though.
@phild9813
@phild9813 6 ай бұрын
Having said that, if you have the correct surfaces that won’t be damaged, chains on a bald tire will be better than any of the options.
@m8pwa_
@m8pwa_ 4 ай бұрын
The R3s are most like a snow tire. So I take your word for it.
@addictedtobedrock5282
@addictedtobedrock5282 6 ай бұрын
What I’ve learned through life, doesn’t matter if it’s mud, snow or whatever, people will argue about what tire is better.
@sethwilliamson
@sethwilliamson 6 ай бұрын
There's more to tires than tread pattern. If you consider winter tires for the road, they're formulated with a softer rubber for improved traction on ice. The rubber on the R4 is very hard for long wear on hard surfaces. It turns rock hard at freezing temperatures. Very slippery on ice.
@watauguy
@watauguy 6 ай бұрын
I've moved a bunch of snow, growing up in Michigan. Almost always using a truck with a plow, not a tractor. The rule was to always use a tall, narrow, snow tire. This did a couple things. More weight per square inch, to prevent slipping, and less bogging down in deep snow. The tractor ran R1's (R4 and R14 didn't exist) and the plows ran tall and narrow. So my pick would be the R1's for the tractor.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thanks!
@jimmeyer9075
@jimmeyer9075 6 ай бұрын
The best tire is the one I have on my tractor. They are paid for.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
One way to look at it!
@bobcatbuilder2107
@bobcatbuilder2107 6 ай бұрын
I liked my turf tires for another reason. When using tire chains, there is more of the chain in contact with the ground giving awesome traction
@In2investing
@In2investing 6 ай бұрын
I run AG tires with chains on rear on my JD 855 with a blower. It's a mountain cabin so driveway is long, steep and unpaved. This setup has always got it done and with there being so much snow there's always ice underneath which no tire will help with that's where chains do the most work.
@danbelden7354
@danbelden7354 6 ай бұрын
We get around 70” of snowfall a year. Last year we used 2 1025r’s with 54” snow blowers on the versa treads and they did well except for on the steepest driveways. We also used a John Deere rear steer machine not sure of the model, but I drove it during several storms and it did really well with just the turf tires on the same driveways.
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 6 ай бұрын
Another reason why turf tires punch above their weight is that it is well accepted in the auto world that snow on snow traction is often better than rubber on snow, particularly at colder temps. Since turf tires tend to not be self-cleaning and hold snow in the tread, this actually increases traction in many conditions, particularly in cold snow that isn’t that deep. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYbboGWBorRnhassi=eGUp9FmQk3EPlEJa
@tomcowell1519
@tomcowell1519 6 ай бұрын
Well said, I was told the same thing when I was younger.
@williamevans7326
@williamevans7326 6 ай бұрын
Liquid verses frozen water on your tread makes a big difference for similar reasons. When clearing roadside parking spaces with packed snow base, if my Ag tires get wet from the melt water in the gutter my tractor will break traction and side into the curb. I could spin my tires all day and go nowhere, but if I stop the tires rotating for 4 - 5 seconds, the water will usually refreeze on the exposed tread and she will regain traction and come out easily.
@williamevans7326
@williamevans7326 6 ай бұрын
I’ve used all four styles of tread and have experience in Ag, construction, ground maintenance, and snow removal. Here’s my take. R4 Industrial / Float tires are easy on job sites by utilizing tight lugs in the center to make a flattish center strip. The center strip floats the tire minimizing dig, lessening damage to surfaces or turning the lot into a mud pie when wet. However this works against you when moving snow as it significantly reduces the amount the tread engages the ground. I’ve used R1 Ag / Paddle lugs for a lot of snow removal. They are not my first choice but the tractors employed were primarily used for ground engaging work. They are better than the Industrials as the lugs are spread out and tall allowing more pounds per square inch (PSI) on the ground. They will get the job done but will cut up soft surfaces instantly requiring you to back drag over the work area. Side Note: Any tread / cleat that floats or spreads out the tractors load is going to work against you in snow. That’s why Ag tires will outperform bar tracks in snow. If setting up a tractor specifically to move snow, I would look at the R3 Turf and R14 Hybrid. The reason I say both is because there are very aggressive turf patterns and too aggressive Hybrids. A tight turf pattern is not going to work as it floats the tire in snow. A very aggressive hybrid may not have enough knobs / lugs which could reduce the performance down to a R1 Ag tire. There is a sweet spot, you want the most tread contacting the ground without significantly reducing PSI on the ground. The Goodyear R14 hybrid shown in the vid is a good proven mud / snow pattern. Callisle Versa Turf Is an example of a more knobby pattern. Anywhere between these patterns should perform well in snow.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 6 ай бұрын
Totally depends on the snow conditions, tractor, and snow removal method. Turf tires or R4’s siped, anything siped is good.
@tappedthatsugarshackhallad3909
@tappedthatsugarshackhallad3909 6 ай бұрын
Great video. It all depends on the amount of snow u are dealing with and conditions. If u are pushing 2ft of snow It really does not matter what tire u are using, but at the end of the day I would rock on with what's on the tractor and have a big smile on my face 😊
@russkarsten8952
@russkarsten8952 6 ай бұрын
Remember, these polls are open to everyone, tractor owners AND those with no experience whatsoever.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Definitely
@Tomkat4010
@Tomkat4010 6 ай бұрын
Turf tires on my cx2510 and i have very good traction in the snow. I live in northern Maine.
@bradstock2313
@bradstock2313 6 ай бұрын
I have turf tires on my ck25 and I wouldn't trade them for any of the other tread designs except maybe r14's. I move a lot of snow as I live in west central mn and my turf tires work very well.
@josephforgione6207
@josephforgione6207 6 ай бұрын
This video definitely gives the viewer a better awareness of the most popular tractor tire choices for winter use. My first John Deere was a 2305 and equipped with the industrial tires. Their performance was adequate for the time I owned the 2305.However, there were some drawbacks;one being that it tore up the lawn when I used the mowing deck. Additionally, when driving the 2305 in snow/ice conditions,the tractor would get stuck in very rare occasions. Usually I had to use my truck to rescue the tractor. On the other hand, I now own the John Deere 2032r with R4s. I have great confidence that my snow removal duties will become less worrisome with improved tire performance. Previous snow removal consisted of using the tractor bucket to remove snow. This wasted time by having push snow and constantly emptying the bucket. With the new 2032r, I added a 6ft. Rear blade for snow removal. I’m positive that it will be an improvement to my overall snow removal process. Something tells me that I should have bought a snow pusher. Don’t be surprised if you get an email from me asking you to order me a snow pusher. That’s why your channel is one of my favorites. Have a great day from your friends from Highgate Vermont.
@sunseeker6088
@sunseeker6088 6 ай бұрын
Great video and so accurate. Our research shows the same results. R14 is 1st in class, then Turf Tear. Keep tractoring
@terryslipp3148
@terryslipp3148 6 ай бұрын
I grew up on a farm in an area of higher snowfall. There is no comparison between the R3s and the R1s or R4s….the R3s exceed both the R1s and R4s. Even the R14s can’t compare to R3s in a good snowfall when it comes to traction. The turfs are truly tractor snow tires!
@brentholaway9114
@brentholaway9114 6 ай бұрын
I owned a 1025R with turf tires. I had very good success with the turf tires when pushing snow. My JD X590 has turf on the front and HDAP on the rear. Also have good traction in snow as well. I have a concrete driveway.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
@tcmits3699
@tcmits3699 6 ай бұрын
My JD F935 with tire chains and a 5' "Broken" snowblower up front, works great. Ps found out by accident, these machines had diff lock as an option, just needed to fabricate foot lever. Perfect snow removal combo
@akrealestatebroker
@akrealestatebroker 6 ай бұрын
My 2023 1025R with rear mounted snow blower has R4 tires with chains on rear. Works fine for steep gravel driveway in Anchorage, Alaska. Lots of snow this winter!
@jasonbrowncoaching
@jasonbrowncoaching 6 ай бұрын
I have 2025r TLB. My driveway is 700 ft long with 20% grade and two switchbacks. I push snow uphill with R4s and haven’t had an issues. Last storm we got last year here in New Hampshire was 3 feet of snow too.
@michaelcangley1868
@michaelcangley1868 6 ай бұрын
My grandparents lived in the mountains of West Virginia back in the 1960s. Their neighbor had an Economy PowerKing tractor. Back then Ag tires were the only option. It was roughly the size of a 20 series John Deere. In the winter, he would swap the tires side to side reversing the tread pattern. They received heavy snowfalls and heavy drifting. It seemed nothing stopped that tractor when he was plowing. The local county owned a couple of WWII surplus 6x6s that would even hang up. My grandfather's neighbor was always able to retrieve them. I don't know how, but it really worked.
@SF-fm7ov
@SF-fm7ov 3 ай бұрын
Snow and ice are 2 different things. I ran ag tires on 7 tractors for many years. In mud and snow those ag tires push material out to the side like crazy which is why they were made with such steep angles. In ice, they don't do well. I would use chains if I was dealing with ice.
@mattparee
@mattparee 2 күн бұрын
I needed new tires for my 2009 John Deere X500 and this video sealed the deal for the Versa Turf. I love them! Even my John Deere dealer hopes they start installing Versa Turf on more tractors. Great video and you did not steer me wrong! Pun somewhat intended. Ish...
@cslikesorange2615
@cslikesorange2615 6 ай бұрын
Good topic. Thanks for discussing it. For 12 years I cleared snow with my BX (first with a bucket and then with a pusher). It had the turf tires. Without chains, I would say they turf tires were not great. We had some years with early snow when I wasn't ready and didn't have the chains on yet. However, I put some simple chains on front and back and it had plenty of traction and moved a lot of snow. Last spring (2022) I purchased a B2601 with the R14 and used that with a pusher last winter. It did ok, but we had a lousy winter (low snow) and things got icy so it did struggle. I would say without the ice it did pretty good, but not as good as the turf tires with chains. However, versus the turf tires without chains, hands down the R14s had much better traction. That being said, though, I have ordered wheel spacers (yup - went with Bora) and square link chains for the back wheels with the R14s. Hopefully we get some snow this winter...
@mikesamson1930
@mikesamson1930 3 ай бұрын
I'm curious to see how the R14 with chains do compared to Turf tires with chains. I have R14 with chains and mostly only the center section of the chains really bite down. I have a steep driveway, so chains are mandatory. I feel the Turf tires with chains may have been a better choice, as the chains would not fall into the large voids on the R14. A different chain style, such as a diamond pattern, would have helped with this.
@davidgingery8927
@davidgingery8927 6 ай бұрын
I would agree with the results. I have the versa turf on my 2025r and have been really pleased with the traction I get in snow or while doing dirt work. They do like to tear up the grass though while mowing.
@juleswinnfield826
@juleswinnfield826 6 ай бұрын
You nailed it.... people get sucked up into marketing/advertising hype. L3560 with rear blade with R3 tires. Knocks out my snow work great.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thanks for sharing!
@denniseft6460
@denniseft6460 6 ай бұрын
For the R3s it all depends on the size of the tires. Smaller turfs, like garden tractors and sub compacts the gaps between the lugs are close vs the gaps between turfs on like a JD 2320 or larger. I've had a 2320, three 2520s, and a second gen 2032r and r3 ran circles around the r4 on snow. R3s were not loaded and the r4s were always loaded. On my current 2032r, I have the r14 and haven't had it in the snow yet.
@richardbritton5280
@richardbritton5280 6 ай бұрын
Chains 😮
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
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@Noah_E
@Noah_E 6 ай бұрын
I didn't vote in the poll, but it makes sense that people picked Ag tires because for passenger cars a narrower tire is better. Growing up both my dad and grandpa used 2WD Ford and Massey tractors with chained R1 and a back blade to clear snow and pull stuck vehicles out of ditches. Totally different weight distribution, drive train, etc vs a modern 4WD tractor with a FEL pusher and snow thrower. My neighbor has used chained R4 on his 1025R the last two winters. Thankfully we didn't get much snow either year. They are calling for this one to be worse.
@waynelocklear256
@waynelocklear256 6 ай бұрын
I have R4s on my 3046r, 2000 ft driveway gravel. Tires are loaded and use an inverted rear mounted blower and spacer’s, bucket up front. I’m upstate New York in the snow belt and haven’t had any issues in 3 years, I do let the snow pack a little and that helps me.
@kellywilson8440
@kellywilson8440 6 ай бұрын
My RK25/TYM came with loaded r-14 rear tires , Havent had any troubles pushing heavy snow .
@eithanlong1355
@eithanlong1355 6 ай бұрын
Turf tire hands down anybody who knows about snow tires knows snow to snow contact makes most traction.
@Rusty-Metal
@Rusty-Metal 6 ай бұрын
Boom! Exactly!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
I was very surprised that they came in last place
@JMSynthetics
@JMSynthetics 6 ай бұрын
When I bought my 1025r with the loader, mmm, and front my blower the dealer asked me very specific questions on terrain, driveway type and etc, they recommended the turf tires, this was before the versa turf had come out. So far no issues with the turf tires.
@JohnDeereR-zw3wj
@JohnDeereR-zw3wj 6 ай бұрын
I have the R14 Carlisle Versa Turf tires on my JD 1025R and they are incredible. Admittedly a little hard on the grass but fantastic on ice and snow. I have 680 pounds on the three point hitch as a weight and the tires have fantastic grip.
@BackyardMaine
@BackyardMaine 5 ай бұрын
I have the turf tires on my 1025R here in Maine. My neighbor has the same tractor with the R14 tires and there is no comparison. Even with chains my turf tire work better. We get a lot of snow in Maine and I have never even needed to use 4 wheel drive using a 47 inch blower. I think with slippery snow and ice the more tire you have in contact with the ground the better. My view based on experience with my tractor.
@jamess.putman1779
@jamess.putman1779 6 ай бұрын
This is all good information. But the Best tire for me ,for snow removal in Alabama is the tire that came on my tractor. The wide lug industrial tire. I'm on disability and can't afford to buy tires and wheels for every weather. When you poor you use what you have . Thank you for the info. Love your videos.
@lukedaoutdoorguy7639
@lukedaoutdoorguy7639 6 ай бұрын
I had a 10,000 pound machine with R4s, it didn't move as much snow as my 4,000 pound machine with R14s. When it comes to snow, traction makes the difference
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've been there too!
@glennbryksaw5731
@glennbryksaw5731 6 ай бұрын
I have R3 tires on my 1023e and used rear chains for the first winter. The second and subsequent years I didn't use the chains. I have never spun a tire in snow removal. I live in Ontario in a snow belt area so we get lots of snow and ice. They are great in snow.
@AdvantureRoad
@AdvantureRoad 6 ай бұрын
Been looking into options for my old 8n, mostly for snow removal, but still decent for plowing and working my garden
@bryceg5709
@bryceg5709 6 ай бұрын
On my garden tractor (Iseki TX2140) I use studded automotive snow tires on the rear all year.
@joshgreenfield62
@joshgreenfield62 6 ай бұрын
I went back and forth for awhile on new tires. My 2210 with R1's were pretty worn out. We on average dont see over 2 feet of snow a year. I found a set of R4's on marketplace for 300 that still had the nubs on them. I use my tractor for mowing, farm, and occasional snow. May not be the best tire for snow but a decent tire for the cost, and most of my uses.
@johns6290
@johns6290 6 ай бұрын
We had a smaller tractor with the turf tires and I had to use my truck to pull it up the driveway in the ice and snow. My 3032 JD with industrial tires and my Kioti with ag tires have had no issues. I am not talking about plowing with the turf tires as it did fine going downhill but with no engagement it could not climb also it was the only 2wheel drive tractor out of our three.
@user-oq5bm8ch8b
@user-oq5bm8ch8b 6 ай бұрын
Messicks did videos a couple years ago comparing these tires for snow use using actual pull strength measurements. Turf tires came out very well!
@kevinpampaxton9270
@kevinpampaxton9270 6 ай бұрын
It all depends on the the kind of snow you get in your area,I live in Pollock Pines the Sierra Nevada mountains,we get really wet snow here so the old R/1 tire is good, personally haven’t tried the newer R14 but I have used the lawn type tire it’s okay but gets really packed with snow.
@gotchagoing4905
@gotchagoing4905 6 ай бұрын
I'm originally from upstate NY, and we got/get lots of snow there. From my first JD 445 to my 770 I chose turf tires-with a bigass set of chains. NEVER got stuck, and I used my front loader to clear all the snow at my place,(which took about 2-3 hours) depending on the amount that fell at night. And then I did my neighbors place up a steep hill from me,never stuck, but often I wish I had chains on the front tires too because of ice. All of my jd's were 4 wheel drive,except the 445. All I bought with the quick attach front loaders as well as having the rears loaded. And back then it was with liquid calcium, and yes, tubes were installed first. On my present 2025r, the industrial tires that came with it kinda suck, but in the spring I'm going to list it with a reverse rotation rototiller and some other goodies. Old injuries now have me in a wheelchair and my wife says it's got to go. The old girl is usually right about a lot of things,( don't tell her I said that) so in the spring I'll say goodbye to my last John Deere.
@raymondb4448
@raymondb4448 6 ай бұрын
In the summer on my 1025r, R1. Winter time on my gravel driveway, I change to R3 with chains for plowing snow.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thanks!
@danreynolds1142
@danreynolds1142 6 ай бұрын
I think snow conditions explain preference. My choice for deep unplowed snow is r1 ag.
@Outdoorsy368
@Outdoorsy368 6 ай бұрын
My b7800 came with r4 industrials, I'd get stuck or slide around very easily. Older neighbor suggested putting chains on, took a while to find some but made a major difference. R4s pretty well blow!!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Chains are a difference maker
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@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
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@brianworley7705
@brianworley7705 6 ай бұрын
This brings to mind the thought that there are different tire chain designs for different uses. The typical ladder design ones for a utility tractor with R1s tend to drop between the lugs. So chain choice is impacted by current tire design.
@philallen301
@philallen301 6 ай бұрын
I have turf tires on a 2210. 600 foot gravel drive, that has a pretty good up hill grade from house to road. I use a back blade for snow and have to allow for a layer of snow pack to avoid moving my gravel with the snow. In the spring, that snow pack layer gets pretty slick. In the 18 years Ive owned this tractor, and used only the blade and bucket for snow, I have never had an issue. Low gear and locking diff make a big difference. Sometimes I need to change an direction on how I move snow, but general now issues at all, snow, ice, mud, whatever. Also, no chains.
@badgerlandturf
@badgerlandturf 6 ай бұрын
Seeing again your grooving of the tires I would question if instead of following the contour of the tread, go multiple chevron or passes along those treads. Sort of perpendicular instead of horizontal (if that makes sense). I’m stuck with R4 but we don’t get a ton of snow so it really doesn’t matter much to me. I agree with one poster, never enough ballast!
@mikeburgard6992
@mikeburgard6992 6 ай бұрын
So many variables to consider. Type of snow, surface type underneath, surface conditions such as packed ice, and the type of hybrid matters quite a bit too. Great video trying to cover the bases. The Nokians tri 2 are the best I’ve used in all snow types on crushed rock, gravel, and concrete. I suspect the tri 1’s are even better but incredibly difficult to source in the US. The Galaxy garden pro’s are good until it’s very slushy. I wouldn’t buy a sub compact without Versa turfs…and they have been good all around including heavy ground engagement in summer months. I found the R14s to be the poorest of the hybrids and switched to the Nokians. The R14 has too much gap in the tread in my opinion which cuts down on edge contact (just less edges overall). I’m in eastern SD for reference running on crushed rock, gravel, and some concrete. I now have 3/4 hybrids mentioned above on a 1, 3 and 4 series…all the hybrids are great tires year-round.
@jandblawncare8570
@jandblawncare8570 6 ай бұрын
We've used several pieces of equipment for plowing, everything from large lots to driveways and the biggest thing is weight! Our Johndeere 310J has basically bald AG tires and does just fine being a 16k + machine pushing a 15 acre lot but it sucks around turns. You would think something like the turf tire would be a great set up and surprised it wasn't in the top two. My buddy sells Bobcat tractors and only orders them in now with the new style R14 and says everyone he's sold them to love them in the snow. I'm about to order a Bobcat CT5558 or a Kioti NS6010C HST and probably going to order it with e the R14 but fill with ballast on all 4 tires. One other thing I have to consider is stopping on snow and ice as we'll be roading this tractor to a couple different subdivisions.
@markbrodrick3774
@markbrodrick3774 6 ай бұрын
I have R4 tires on my tractor. Moving snow I found the tractor lost traction. Now I put chains on all 4 tires. Much rougher ride with the chains but works much better. With only 900 hrs the tires show little wear. I can see the R1 tread would have more traction. Thanks for the information.
@michaeldaniels8556
@michaeldaniels8556 6 ай бұрын
R14 works well in Atlantic Canada winters
@JC-yt1pm
@JC-yt1pm 6 ай бұрын
Not on your list but NOKIAN HAKKAPELIITTA TRI is what we use. We mow ditches and in the winter blow cul-de-sac's with a 5105M these tires have great grip on hills. The R14 hybrid would be my second choice I have them on my personal Kubota B2301 I do have to chain it once and a while.
@fatskikid
@fatskikid 6 ай бұрын
John Deere 3046 with R3 in my opinion, they work better because of the soft tread compound is a little more forgiving and makes better contact on slippery surfaces. Maybe not as aggressive and slushy types snow. Question for debate, front chains, or rear chains.?
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Good question about chains
@bearvonsteuben9675
@bearvonsteuben9675 6 ай бұрын
Good timing on this. For years, I’ve been blowing snow with a little Kubota BX w/ turf tires. It’s been great. Last year, I added a JD 2032R w/ ag tires. It was not used last winter. Wanting to make it more well-rounded and able to assist with mowing duties and not tear up lawns & based on my success w/ turf tires on the BX in snow removal, I’ve ordered turfs for the JD. We shall see. Now, what I want to know is: what’s the best way to pre-treat the blower chute to prevent/slow down clogging in the heavy wet stuff? I’ve used no-stick cooking spray occasionally for decades, but w/ varied success. Is it more about slowing down when attacking the snow (technique) than expecting a cooking spray to solve the issue? Still learning here…. Thanks!😂
@jonsjulander6330
@jonsjulander6330 6 ай бұрын
When I got my 2038R tractor, my only choice was R14s. The dealer told me when he got a set of turfs, he'd swap them. I spent one Maine winter with the R14s and was not impressed. In the spring, he got turfs and swapped them out. The turfs for snow removal were much better than the R14s. I liked the turfs much better, except when working in a wet field where the treads were filled with mud and became slicks. I bit the bullet a couple of years ago and bought Vera turfs. They are far and away the best all-around tire I've used.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for chiming in!
@rob1733
@rob1733 6 ай бұрын
I love how you call out the dealers for overcharging on the basics. I hope they're listening. Don't particularly want to buy from Amazon, but the dealers have to do their bit too.
@chucks4328
@chucks4328 6 ай бұрын
Only place I've seen r 14 tires is KZbin, so I have no experience with them. R1 ag tires are made for digging in dirt. Digging in snow they're not as effective but still work. Ice however is a completely different thing. There you want a tire with the most rubber contacting the ground. R1's are pretty helpless in that environment. I can honestly see R14's working in both conditions. Sort of a jack of all trades but a master of none. I wouldn't mind trying them on a smaller tractor.
@mms8393
@mms8393 6 ай бұрын
Wise statement. That is how it works in cyclocross (autumn/winter bike racing). Ag style tires are used when it's muddy. But when the ice and snow come out a lot of guys use their dry weather tires with a much finer tread pattern. Tire pressures also make a huge difference depending on the conditions.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for chiming in Chuck!
@danielrobey1759
@danielrobey1759 Ай бұрын
Beet juice or a good set of chains and the R1's are unstoppable in my experience. The state of the tread makes the choice of which direction you go... New tread with good lugs either will work great but the chains don't ride for crape so Beet juice in my opinion is the way to go with fresh rubber, once they are worn down some chains are the answer...
@s1283
@s1283 6 ай бұрын
Vermont winters and a hilly dirt road, and paved driveway, turf has been excellent. I use a snow pusher in front and a 6ft 2 stage blower in the rear, on my 1025r
@anindividual3889
@anindividual3889 6 ай бұрын
I haven't gotten the opportunity to use anything with the r14, but I'll be considering them when wear out what I have. I know that I haven't ever liked the r4 pattern for almost anything. I mostly us the normal ag tires and I like those.
@Sundancer268
@Sundancer268 6 ай бұрын
My 1026R came with Turf Tires and when I destroyed the Left Front, I replaced the whole set of tires with the Versa-Turf tires. I really don't notice a big difference in the winter. I have always used chains on the 1026R and keep the chains on year around. I do love the Versa-Turf tires in the summer for loader work a lot better than the Turf Tires, but in snow, I have no preference.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
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@prepper1013
@prepper1013 6 ай бұрын
I have R14's on my Kioti CK2610. We got 110 inches of snow last winter along with ice and I never had 1 issue.
@qfdforme
@qfdforme 6 ай бұрын
R3 Turf tires work great snow removal.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
I agree
@workinonitsteve
@workinonitsteve 6 ай бұрын
Courtney, I have R14 on my kioti dk5310 se cab tractor. Way better than my old Kubota with r4 in my opinion. Haven’t had any issues in snow.
@BillTheTractorMan
@BillTheTractorMan 6 ай бұрын
I have personally tested on my tractor, in snow and ice conditions R1 and R3 (turf) tires. The R1 ag lug tires are garbage in the snow and on ice compared to turf tires. I tested identical ballast on each tire, and I tried both tires with chains too, all of the same tractor. The R1 ag tires couldn't reverse to save their lives, the lug is designed for specific forward traction and cleaning. The turf grips the snow and ice much better forward and backwards. Weight was far more effective on the turf tires for improving traction, and chains performed much better on the turf tires. Yes, I used the special chains for AG tires when I did this test. The AG tires were designed to dig into the soft soil for traction, this is something snow and ice does not allow. When possible I run Turf or advanced turf tread for snow/ ice with a tractor.
@ericcrockett6396
@ericcrockett6396 6 ай бұрын
Well said ag is designed to dig to get traction which the opposite happens in snow is they dig down to the ice. R3 stays on top of the snow which has more traction and with snow packing in the tread snow on snow if actually pretty grippy (just like snow tires for autos) and get better traction
@shawndickmann8215
@shawndickmann8215 6 ай бұрын
Gravel driveway, edge tamers on my bucket, R4's. Work just fine.🎉
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@geraldluedke5696
@geraldluedke5696 2 ай бұрын
Hi, I have a JD x495 garden tractor, always used turff tires with chains for blowing snow with the 47 inch 2 stage blower. I switched to the Versa turf tires in the back, 26 by 12 12, don't use chains anymore. That is hands down the best tire for snow traction. I just did a front tire wheel conversion from a solid rim 18 by 8.5 8 to a 5 lug 18 by 8.5 10 with now versa turf on the front. I had a problem steering the tractor with the blower down with the turf tires as the turf lugs would get so much snow and the tractor would just push forward unless raising the blower or driving very slow. I have not had any snow yet, warm spell here in wisconsin but I know the versa turf will shed snow better and steer better. My vote, improve the tractor traction and go versa turf. Reason for the conversion? they do not make the versa turf in the 18 by 8.5 by 8. I had to go to the 18 by 8.5 by 10. wasn't cheap but worth it for me. I didn't care for what was out there tire size in the 8 inch rim size.
@Rocker6723
@Rocker6723 6 ай бұрын
Growing up on a farm, we didn't have time, money, or space to have multiple tire options for our snow plow tractor. So we just use R1.
@JeffGeorgalas
@JeffGeorgalas 6 ай бұрын
I think that a lot of people voted for a specific tire without actually having first-hand knowledge. R-3's are a great snow tire. I would have put them first, but have never used an R14, so I couldn't make an INFORMED opinion on them. And in all reality, R14's haven't been out that long, so I'd be surprised if "that many people" have first-hand knowledge about them. If you look at any of the LARGE residential snow removal companies in Canada that do HOA developments with inverted snow blowers, they ALL use R3 tires. They may be getting into the R14's now, but for the last 10 years they've been using R3's and there's a reason for that.
@stephenayer8255
@stephenayer8255 6 ай бұрын
Which tire is best in snow and ice is such a “loaded” question! Part of the problem at least up here in the Great White North is the wide variation of snow and ice conditions not only from day to day but sometimes hour to hour, for example fresh dry snow on sheer ice on a steep slope you’re not going up it no matter which tires you have on, wait a few hours with cold enough temperatures so the snow sticks/freezes to ice and up you go with R4’s! In my opinion tire selection will at best help to “get by”, to guarantee traction you need a good set of ice chains!
@tommybounds3220
@tommybounds3220 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@PATurgeon2
@PATurgeon2 6 ай бұрын
In Eastern Canada, Nokian TRI or Titans snow tire is the best option, even on larger construction machines, we get easily 130" of all types of snow and sleet
@larrybecker9645
@larrybecker9645 5 ай бұрын
Nokians were an option when I recently ordered a JD 4075R. I researched online what the Canadians commonly used. That was good enough for me!
@brianworley7705
@brianworley7705 6 ай бұрын
My only experience is with R1 tites. Those did well for flat or hills going downhill with a front, truck style plow. We added liquid ballast and that improved uphill traction and use to keep the back pointed the desired direction with a large rear facing snowblower. Yet aome areas steep, wet, water crossing they still struggled. Added rear chans and that helped tremendously. Now not dealing with steep hills any longer, but icepack under the snow caused us to add front tire chains. Still, if nearly smooth ice on gravel road, hard to get moving even with ladder chains. Chains help keep momentum. My opinion is R1 works well in deep dry snow. However because they are designed to handle the load of pulling in soil, are stiff rubber with doesn't do much for ice. Chains help. Chain design becomes important depending on what tires the chains will be used on..the chains we want like those for logging skidders (traction rings down the middle of the tire with studs on the rings and cross chains) are far out of our price considation. So another video idea might be what chains to choose for usage and the tires they will be used with. Ladder type are not ideal fpr R1s. They help, but not as much as they could.
@foonus406
@foonus406 6 ай бұрын
WolfPaws are the best tier out there for small tractor or skid steer. Unfortunately they are expensive and require separate rims. Ran the turf tires on a 2 series deer and a set of chains really helped.
@rodneyward8357
@rodneyward8357 6 ай бұрын
I have a jd 455 and an 870 i have r1s on both. the 26-12-12s are beasts but the original turfs did awesome in snow. Would put r14s on my 870 but never r4s on either
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 6 ай бұрын
Interesting , Thank You .
@Kevinhobbytime
@Kevinhobbytime 6 ай бұрын
I was part of the survey and i think the largest player in traction is the sheer size of the tire itself. Its a lot of torque and HP but its being put into such a large diameter tire it makes good traction no matter what. Ive seen first hand full sized payloaders at walmart push mounds of snow with practically bald tires on asphalt. Look at it this way, jeepers use taller tires to help climb obstacles at slower speeds and get better traction with the same wheel width in many cases. No matter what you use, ice wins, unless your cleated or chained you’re going to slide. Another huge factor is the substrate beneath the snow, if your on gravel your going to hook up no matter what tire you have.
@97TRAKIN
@97TRAKIN 3 ай бұрын
I own a John Deere with R3 and a Yanmar with R4. The R3 does great in the snow. I think the tire's profile plays a big roll. The R3 are softer and seem to "float", they spread the weight out and have a larger contact footprint. The thread of the R3 grips the snow, VS the R4 which scoops or digs in the snow. The snow we get in Virginia is not as intense as up north so understand this is just my experience.
@carlstrohm3785
@carlstrohm3785 6 ай бұрын
Northern Minnesota, 1025R, Versaturf tires, 54" blower, backhoe for ballast. I have had zero traction issue's and I clear about a mile worth of gravel driveway, parking area, paths, and a sledding hill for the kids. I can easily push too fast and overwhelm the blower, even uphill in 2WD. They have been great to me. Co-worker with Kubota says the Turf tires work way better than the R1 or R4's he had.
@tomf9928
@tomf9928 6 ай бұрын
very interesting, i have a driveway of 200ft up hill to town road you will not get out with a inch of snow if you don't have a4x4 anyways i have plowed it for 37 years much of that time with a wheelhorse garden tractor i found the ag tires good till it was Icey or really messy ended up switching back to turf with chains, also used a ford8n before i paved it no issues the tar changes the bite a 4x4 atv worked great no chains later on a Deere x500 poor too light weight needed chains on turfs with wheel weights and 4 ,42lb frame weights bought a 1025 in 17 has turf treads for around all of yard ,i also till with-it it has NO issues pushing snow with the turfs up that hill as long as its in 4x4
@gibblespascack1418
@gibblespascack1418 6 ай бұрын
When I need to go someplace in summer or winter, The R1 is the tire of choice vs the turf tires. The turf tires float to much for my conditions. And if the snow in the woods is bad enough that you think that you might get stuck, adding the ring chains will take you anywhere. Road chains are ok, but ring chains when you are not on a hard surface are fabulous. With ring chains, go into the woods, unplowed, and you can hook onto a tree(or big log) and drag it to the barn(as long as you can 3 pt pick up some of the log). It just gets you to where ever you need to go. This is on a farm in upstate NY.
@Elkmonger
@Elkmonger 6 ай бұрын
My Brother has a Army Deuce and Half that we removed one of the tandem axles and cut the bed down to make it a big pickup truck. He put 50" michelin tires on it. The tread looks like 4 big chicken nuggets across the tire. Anyhow, we siped the tires and it made a HUGE difference in road handling, tire noise, and traction. On hard packed snow he couldn't drive up his driveway without using four wheel drive. Once we siped them it could go up his driveway forward or backward in two wheel drive. He bought a hot iron siper and all we did was make razor blade slices straight across the tire about every 3/8" and probably 1/4 to 3/8" deep. It took a LONG time to do this - no grooving. I'm thinking we had 4 man hours on it.
@kengarlin1134
@kengarlin1134 6 ай бұрын
Kubota L6060 Grand, with loader mounted blade, rear blade and rear snow blower. One mile driveway in the Colorado mountains. R14 suck on slick side hill situations. Tire chains are great but extremely bumpy ride with loaded tires.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 6 ай бұрын
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@pto.enterprises
@pto.enterprises 6 ай бұрын
Contact surface and tread pattern are very important. But the most important is the tread compound. You have access to lots of different tires. Go around and push on the tread blocks with your thumbnail. You'll see which ones have the softer rubber compound. The softer rubber grabs the ice better.
@OrangeismyNewGreen
@OrangeismyNewGreen 6 ай бұрын
Love my Versa Turf, no regrets replacing my R4 with the Versa Turf👍🏻
@Gzus
@Gzus 6 ай бұрын
I plow my 250' sloped driveway with turf tires (no chains) on my X728 and have ZERO issues with slippage or loss of traction.
@charlesperry1051
@charlesperry1051 6 ай бұрын
My tractor came with R4 tires. Luckily I live in eastern TN and snow is rare. When we do get it, wait a day and it is gone. I would love R14 tires, but won't replace my R4 tires until they need it.
@paulmiller4549
@paulmiller4549 6 ай бұрын
I actually have all four tire options for three different tractors. Two 3005 john deere and a 1025r with R14. I would rate for snow R14 first with R1 a close 2nd and R3 and R4 about tied for 3rd.
@midrone66
@midrone66 6 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know how many people voted, yet have no other frames of reference. A lot of us small tractor guys only have reference for the set of tires on our tractors. I have R3's and they were better than the industrial tires on my previous tractor. That's all I can comment on though.
@angus4202
@angus4202 6 ай бұрын
i run r1s with 1/2 inch sheet metal screws with the 1/4 inch hex heads ziped into the lugs its like having ice studs
@raincloud54
@raincloud54 6 ай бұрын
Well it seems to me that it depends on what surface you are plowing. Gravel, Dirt, pavement, concrete
@darrellgrant7615
@darrellgrant7615 6 ай бұрын
A lot of the major dedicated snow removal companies in Canada that use tractors almost exclusively use either the regular Ag tires because they lease the tractors for the winter from farmers that aren’t using them then or they have been using the Nokian snow tire for the tractors they actually own.
@FullMetalFab
@FullMetalFab 6 ай бұрын
I know with the smaller machines I use ( older Cub cadets that broader line on sub compact like my 982 and 1782) the turf tires with chains will out do a set of R1 ag's when working in snow. I've thought about getting a set of R14 versa turfs for my one machine (cub 1782), it uses the same size tires as a JD 1025R but they are a costly investment specially up here in Canada.
@justanotherviewer52
@justanotherviewer52 6 ай бұрын
A lot depends on if you are pushing or blowing. My lawn tractor with blower attachment has turf tires but - - - chains.
@YMF1891
@YMF1891 6 ай бұрын
You bring up a great point. The traction needed for snow blowing is much less than plowing.
@FREEDOM-sd9my
@FREEDOM-sd9my 6 ай бұрын
would you put chains on all four tires or just the back ones. Now am talking about sub or compact four wheel drive tractors.
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