I'M SO SORRY... | Life Eater - Part 2 (ENDING)

[@jrsimpson34]

Mark repeatedly clicking the anonymous button and then selecting a different activity is such Mark behavior

[@eddyfranco311]

It was literally irking me the entire time 😂 I loved that he saw that when editing so he zoomed in every time he made that mistake

[@liamm6586]

@@eddyfranco311 He probably still doesn't know lol bc he has editors for the videos

[@xandres100]

@@liamm6586 wouldn't surprise me if the editors tell him to make fun of him 🤣

[@matheff71]

It's not Mark behaviour, it's old people playing games for the first time behaviour. And he's doing it for over 10 years, probably. It's probably on purpose.

[@KimJongUnnie]

@@matheff71 it’s definitely mark behavior

[@Memoliam06]

9:21 This woman takes a nap immediately after waking up and you know what?... I get it.

[@I_love_men_obvious_really]

It's like when you have a good dream that you want to go back to

[@Banshee_Null]

me when my alarm

[@PIKACHU-sd6qz]

Lol

[@jarrenation8645]

dont care

[@user-eu1vt6mf6m]

​@@jarrenation8645Cared enough to comment

[@fyadollahi4735]

29:06 I love how the extra info under "Podcast" was a distractible promotion. Lixian you're a genius

[@Dawaria]

I noticed that and i started pointing at the screen lmao

[@academyjason]

To answer if youre wondering. There is an ending where he kills Johnny (Mark just had a bugged run until he restarted the whole level). He just says "you happy? you motherfucker." to his god

[@lunatheluma3804]

It wasnt bugged, he just forgot to remove the right lung

[@Sarah-ru3xt]

oh, from the playthroughs I watched he said: "There. You finally have everything. I hope you fucking choke on it." Either way, heart-wrenching fr

[@mleszzor6866]

@@lunatheluma3804 But wasn't it the rib number three?

[@lunatheluma3804]

@mleszzor6866 he needed to remove Johnnys right lung for sleeping less than 9 hours a night, he messed up by removing the liver instead and never corrected it

[@PolarNitaIsTired]

​​@@mleszzor6866that was the mistake for the first attempt on Ralph I think Edit: NEVERMIND, another comment said that every time mark made a mistake he forgot to fix it

[@EALoArt]

"panic silently for one minute" It be like that sometimes.

[@elizabethblake1164]

Wish I could cut my times down to just one minute, that sounds like a record!

[@EALoArt]

@@elizabethblake1164 it's also really nice that he can schedule it whenever he wants🤣

[@mr-dooter-2010]

Words cannot describe the feeling of primal frustration I feel when Mark clicks the anonymity button but chooses another option before wondering why he suddenly is under investigation.

[@skovh0lm]

so real 😭😭

[@cdeathlonger7446]

​@@monkeyman-lb3gi it's really not that deep 😂

[@arlenem1926]

​@monkeyman-lb3gi what happened to you in your life to make you so angry for no reason? Are you ok?

[@Snowywolf1911]

​@@monkeyman-lb3gi Who pissed in your Kartoffelpuffer

[@DragoNate]

@@arlenem1926 some people just don't understand the point of youtube comments.

[@VaalkinTheOnly]

"Bald? Goodbye small intestine" is such a funny line out of context-

[@regankappers]

Watch out, Wade!

[@maestro_dana]

This game seems to be directly inspired by Jonan Vasquez's "Johnny the Homocidal Maniac" graphic novel series. In it, Johnny must do much as Ralph does to keep the monster in his wall from destroying the world. Between the fact that Johnny is a main character in this game and that series, the shared premise, and the fact that the evil entity in this game is ZIMforth while Vasquez's most famous work is Invader ZIM, I think the likelihood that there was some direct inspiration here very likely.

[@TheTrueTerrydactyl]

Zimforth also made an appearance in the devs other game, Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator, as a dark god the necromancers try to awaken. Which lends some credence to him being real!

[@maestro_dana]

@@TheTrueTerrydactyl Also lends a tiny bit of extra credence to my Jonan Vasquez inspiration theory because of that entire Invader ZIM episode where ZIM goes around harvesting all the other students' organs.

[@Michelle-p1n]

Oh how didn’t I notice this!

[@rockleefanlj]

Isn’t that the side series in the Squee comics? Good pull, can definitely see some of the inspiration with that in mind. Would be cool to ask the creator about it for sure!

[@Michelle-p1n]

@@rockleefanlj Squee is a side series of JTHM iirc

[@Ana-jp3kq]

A cool detail that I caught, is that the last time Johnny says Ralphs name its not blurred like the other times. Its a nice touch, perhaps Johnny forgave Ralph or Ralph is finally free from Zimforth.

[@izzzyb.]

that’s really interesting! I didn’t catch that but I’m glad you pointed it out

[@ketstheverybusiness9313]

I think it's because Ralph never saw himself as a real person tbh, like to Ralph he's one of the beasts and you're viewing things through his lense. But like, in that ending it forces you to see things through Johnny, and like, despite everything I think he sees him as a person yk

[@kuroyuki6254]

Another cool detail. IN the end credits, if you kill Johnny, Ralph's name is messed up like in the game. But if you kill Ralph, the name is written normally, like he was given back his humanity at last.

[@arthurhex]

A horrifying game that seems to have two sides. In one your killing for a Eldritch god, who demands sacrifices. In the other you’re a delusional killer and his captive who likely ends up in a shared delusion.

[@arthurhex]

My favorite part has to be that element of deniability, it is never really clear if its all real or not.

[@DiscordMan-k7o]

But the Zim man is real!!!!

[@artofzetsu6130]

I heard Zim appeared in a another game of the developer. He is pretty much real but its not point of the story honestly. But Zim could be not real. Since Ralph is video editor. Maybe his delusion made him to edit fake new.

[@DiscordMan-k7o]

@@artofzetsu6130 BUT THE ZIM MAN IS REAL!!!!

[@mythos951]

Spoilers: I'm surprised the developer didn't make the the ending "oh it was all in Ralph's head". It was a easy set up, and still would have been a good game had he done so. But making it so ambiguous about whether zimforth was real or not really puts you into the head space of Ralph and Jonny. It definitely makes the game's story really unique.

[@mleszzor6866]

That is a very good observation.

[@grupz5642]

i think either way its an amazing story, zimforth being real really gets u invested and have to think about how many people johnny just accidently killed and the grief and realisation that everything is for a reason and johnny probably thinking the mc was insane and for years just beating himself up over speaking to a psychopath only to then realise that everything he had thought he had known for years and years was all fake and there really was an evil god

[@RedRance69]

Nah either making it all in Ralph head or having zimforth confirmed real would have ruined it. The good thing about this game is that it mess with your head if Zimi is real or not with evidence that he might exist but not concrete enough to confirm it

[@matheff71]

There's enough delusion-based stories, good they didn't go that way, that's cliché.

[@DissedRedEngie]

That wouldn't work, because even Johnny notices the apocalypse happening when Ralph tries to not do the sacrifices. And you can't really pull the "maybe Johnny is crazy too" card, because he's clearly in a more lucid state than Ralph when it happens.

[@UnreliableArsonist]

SPOILER ALERT: I just adore the little detail of the dialog at the start of year 10 (aka the ending) when Ralph and Johnny are going back and forth between Johnny dying and the world ending, that when Ralph says “I love you, Johnny” before the gameplay actually starts, Johnny simply replies with “Do it, Ralph” and not an “I love you, too”

[@jarretgriffisva]

Fun fact: The “I love you, Johnny” line wasn’t in the original script. That scene was pretty intense, so it was likely something I said in the heat of the moment.

[@UnreliableArsonist]

@@jarretgriffisva oh did you do the voice for Ralph?

[@jarretgriffisva]

@@UnreliableArsonist Indeed I did!

[@UnreliableArsonist]

@@jarretgriffisva You did a really good job, hope you get some more roles like that 👍

[@vizzzyy190]

@@jarretgriffisva i love this so much. you did a fantastic job!

[@Ruslannar]

If you're wondering what happened, Mark just forgot to remove the correct part twice in a row, rib #24 at 30:53 and the right lung at 32:42 so don't blame it on the game being buggy :D

[@clay01ful]

Yes

[@KassideeAken]

Why do we care- he finished it

[@KimJongUnnie]

@@KassideeAken because some people are curious why 🙄

[@Kittgoop]

@@KassideeAkenbecause it seemed like it was a bug in the game but it was actually just his mistake…

[@Dogan_TM]

@@KassideeAken The same reason for why you don't. Because different people value different things :) 808 people as of this moment, in fact.

[@Troldefar94]

I love the voice acting in this game, Ralph and Johnny actually makes me sick to my stomach, but the game is so enthralling.

[@sambradshaw5574]

These devs have amazing voice actors they work with. I played there recent game (I am your beast) and the voice actor for Johnny voices the main character of that game and does a phenomenal job.

[@OracleGaming_Official]

This game is so intriguing. On one side, the protagonist comes off as a complete monster, tormenting Johnny for years. Yet, the voice acting is so convincing that it’s hard to tell if the guy is losing his mind in a psychotic spiral, or if there's genuinely some Lovecraftian entity demanding annual sacrifices.

[@JannetFenix]

To be honest, on year eight it was not a vision. It was the real disaster, proof of the powers.

[@880-4]

Nah it’s real, the reporter said so

[@ian3523]

I mean the disaster really did happen, eve Johnny saw it, it was ON THE NEWS as well

[@Naturalbornmissgeburt]

Wasn't the exact same comment on the video before

[@cold3904]

comment is awfully similar to one made on the first vid haha

[@Illhelppwn]

Whoever made this game did such an incredible job. I started off the last video saying "well obviously this guy is just a crazy murderer". Now I genuinely have no idea.

[@hadleyruch]

XALAVIER NELSON JR MY HERO 🫡

[@leafshade3643]

Obviously he wasn't, he was getting information he did not have about people.

[@icetide9411]

It's crazy how Zimforth, an eldritch god who loves ripping away lives, possibly being real the entire time is actually more comforting of a possibility. Like I'd rather have some ancient being be the monster, a person just doing all these things for no real reason is infinitely more frightening.

[@MegaDudon]

...and yet it happens in real life...

[@doggo_woo]

An actual reason for someone to kill another person is comforting, as there's logic in it. A person killing another person for no reason? Illogical. Irrational. Unreasonable.

[@Szszymon14]

Maybe because we already almost had one in the Bible? Jahwe... Or Yaldabaoth/the false god as it was/is called by the Gnostics/modern esoterics.

[@fairyhaven13]

@@Szszymon14 what are you even talking about?

[@seekerofthe6459]

Yabadabadoo the false god?

[@threebadgers1083]

I think one of my favourite things about this game is that Ralph is actually being tormented by some eldritch god and it’s not just a situation where he’s mentally unwell. Obviously there’s no hard evidence to say that Zimforth actually exists as the earthquake really could’ve been poor timing, which does lead the god’s existence to be somewhat ambiguous. But it does feel right that they do exist and have tasked Ralph with killing specific people. Since after all, a lot of the requirements for killing folk are behind information that Ralph doesn’t know until after he stalks them

[@dashmamien]

this has been one of my favorite newer games that's come out this year. the story is amazing and the vibes are immaculate. definitely going to try it out for myself!

[@caradelta963]

Ew lmao

[@jennagaughan9811]

i don't think a game about being a stalker and serial killer has immaculate vibes but go off

[@ElijahMcKinlay]

Or the world ends and everyone dies​@jennagaughan9811 lol😅

[@ElijahMcKinlay]

​@@jennagaughan9811.

[@ElijahMcKinlay]

Or the world ends​ and everyone dies But you know go on@@jennagaughan9811

[@praxisprime]

35:47 its here at the end you realize this whole game is a "JOHNNY THE HOMICIDAL MANIAC" prequel. how johnny became somewhat maniacle and ended up with zimforth locked in his wall...the wall he has to keep painting red with blood, but blood darkens when it dries, so to keep the blood red he must keep applying fresh blood or else it would escape...

[@kylenelson8746]

this cannon? or?

[@Brimmsune]

​@@kylenelson8746no, just implied by people who are connecting two things that may, or may not, be coincidental

[@hangryhufflepuff9530]

I've never heard of that game, has mark done a play through?

[@kaitoutenjo]

@@hangryhufflepuff9530 it's not a game - it''s an old edgy comic from the guy who made invader zim.

[@praxisprime]

@@hangryhufflepuff9530 not a game a short comic series made before invader zim the tv show, by the creator of invader zim. only thing is johnny would have had to take the blindfold off at some point and most likly what he saw made him a homicidal maniac, but johnny had a masive basment-network of basement s that just kept going and going, possibly because of the unspeakable horror trying to break through the dimensional planes...

[@plasmariing]

Every time mark used the point thing on a lvl 2 action and then clicked a lvl 3 and effectively wasted the point, I felt a deep sense of despair

[@I_love_men_obvious_really]

We all felt a fraction of johnny's suffering with each missclick.

[@mryall95]

actually i noticed that when he clicked the token then didn't use the action associated with the token it didn't actually waste a token. at one point he had 3 tokens, clicked to use a token then clicked a different action it still said he had 3 tokens

[@plasmariing]

@@mryall95 Watched it again and you’re right, thanks for correcting me^^

[@loupanox]

Yknow, such a small detail, but I do enjoy that the characters are drawn with different body types

[@neetvillage]

was thinking that the whole time i love how diverse the victims were, it's interesting that they were both humanized and objectified at the same time

[@awkwardukulele6077]

Low-key proud and upset that THIS is the context where a dev actually does a S+ job at depicting people of diverse body types. “Suffering from success” vibes 😅

[@HTETyt]

and somehow johnny has a strong body type instead of the skinny body type despite being drawn skinny in the cutscenes and the situation he is in.

[@Brimmsune]

It's called being individuals? Is that really a rare thing these days? Unfortunate. Then again I can't draw. But I would think people wouldent have some guy who has lived in a cage for 10 years to be a big guy by width

[@spiderbug7615]

@@Brimmsune bro you don't have to be condescending about it when someone is appreciating something. People tend to design humans with similar body types in games, don't act like it's not a thing and then condescend at people for noticing it's different. people like you are so friggin rude

[@libuseviskova5006]

This game is truly tragic... I need more of it immidietly

[@Teenage_Mutant_Ginga_Ninja]

Immediately* Not being a jerk, I know English is hard. I was married to someone for 13 years who couldn't spell to save her life. Her autocorrect weeps in despair, half dead and shitting itself. Some people just can't spell. Lol

[@mseri_p]

A game that reminds me of my schizophrenic brother's delusions before we got him the help and medication he needed. It's a pretty terrifying concept on paper and in -almost- reality. I love indie devs, they make some of the most interesting games.

[@Szszymon14]

On the other side, I had one schizophrenic friend who thought he was a Witcher, and went on for long walks around the forest to create some magic protection fields. And he also chased passing cars as he thought these were monsters.

[@ErosiveSoul]

I'm an actual paranoid schizophrenic and throughout the series I was just like, this game promotes a familiar headspace for me. My meds make things much better these days.

[@lizziex6447]

@@Szszymon14 I think you met Don Quixote. In all seriousness, it's sad that that kind of delusion can happen to a real person to the same extent. Is he doing okay now?

[@mseri_p]

@@lizziex6447 Yeah, he's better now but not completely himself. In a similar vein to the game, my brother's delusion was the game's premise, but to himself, in order to save everyone.

[@mseri_p]

@@ErosiveSoul Glad to hear you're feeling better. Always take care of yourself!

[@mourningdewey]

ralph sacrificing himself (and potentially all of humanity) so johnny could have at least one good day after a decade of suffering is such a storybook villain thing to do and i'm OBSESSED. obviously i know ralph's the whole reason johnny suffered all that time, but there is something to be said for the way he endeared himself to johnny. there is so much nuance to this ending that ultimately circles back to "ralph is a monster and johnny had stockholm syndrome"... at face value though, good god that's so twistedly sweet

[@phoenixpheothers3525]

Ok no but you're COMPLETELY right! This game shows EXACTLY why Stockholm Syndrome ISN'T a real thing. It was thought of as a concept because victims of captivity, primarily women, would sometimes come out of it feeling pity for their captors. They understood that while they were doing wrong, they were (sometimes) also a victim of circumstance and the system and felt "forced" into committing their crimes, just like Ralph here. Because it's POSSIBLE to acknowledge that two conflicting things, a captor also being a victim, CAN be true at once. But the people conceptualizing "Stockholm Syndrome" didn't think that was possible, mainly for sexist reasons. And I just love so much how this game does use a male victim specifically to point out how this is possible, since the idea that "Stockholm Syndrome" is such a female thing and/or falling in "false love" with captors (shipping aside lol). It makes it so much easier to see for many people that it's not some fault in the brain or manipulation tactic, it's just genuine human pity and understanding and connection.

[@mourningdewey]

@@phoenixpheothers3525 god you're so right, thank you for opening my eyes. i love you (but in a less literal, two strangers connecting over a common interest on the internet kinda way)

[@rookideetrainer1635]

@@phoenixpheothers3525 from what I've heard, that's not true. It was because the women in the case that started it were being held hostage and the police started making excuses after they escalated the situation that the women begged them not to escalate that "it's because they fell in love with their captors" it's true that it's sexist, but it's not the story behind how the term was created as far as I know. So short version I believe it was more of a case of victims needing to protect the captor to not risk their own lives, rather than feeling pity for the captors

[@lampylightbulb]

Johnny definitely had Stockholm Syndrome but Ralph also definitely had Lima syndrome, which is the reverse of Stockholm Syndrome. Ralph felt compelled to keep him captive because he believed he was under threat from Zimforth, so he was still the captor throughout those ten years, but he felt awful about it and pitied his captive, whereas Johnny felt pity for his captor who was suffering from his tormentor/delusions.

[@mourningdewey]

@@rookideetrainer1635 hey pal i think you missed the overarching point...

[@thevenator3955]

Is it implied that the breaking ribs and taking organs is being done while the target is awake? Because that’s horrific, while the mini game itself is kind of underwhelming lol

[@awkwardukulele6077]

The heart is still beating, so… 😳

[@RaifuEnthusiast]

I don't think so? Unless Ralph had their mouths covered so they couldn't scream, having them awake means they could potentially move around, which is not something you'd want if you're trying to do specific things like removing a certain rib or taking out an organ

[@RaifuEnthusiast]

​@@awkwardukulele6077 the heart doesn't stop beating unless you're dead, if it stopped beating when you went to sleep you'd die

[@Brimmsune]

​@@RaifuEnthusiast I doubt he drugs his targets. The ending implies that he cared for Johnny so much that he endured the pain of cutting himself open and destroying his ribs, lung, intestines etc (it can be different each time) long enough to finish and stab his heart. Of course, assuming he actually knew what he was doing UNLIKE MARKIPLIER it was probably done in a matter of minutes, but still.

[@ValentineC137]

Johnny got headphones, definetly awake

[@clottedscream]

“the reporter said the ground fucking liquified.” y-yeah, johnny, that happens every time there’s an earthquake. it’s called liquefaction. it’s the main thing that causes damage during earthquakes

[@Srakch]

Considering the earthquake was quote "the largest in the region" in that universe's history? It must have been terrifying. I would have believed Zimforth was real too.

[@indyferncja6784]

i honestly thought you made it up, but it's true lol

[@mleszzor6866]

I see, I didn't know that before. That adds so much depth into this.

[@BlueyBluebloo-y6p]

You expecting the poor dud, who was kidnapped and forced to live in a tiny cage in a maniac's basement for years, to know about it. Bruh.

[@skiddledebop]

@@BlueyBluebloo-y6pi'm pretty sure they're just sharing a fun fact in the context of the game. i don't think they're personally judging johnny for not knowing seismology

[@omgtatercat]

It really is such a sad story, you genuinely feel bad for both Ralph and Johnnie. If anyone is interested in seeing the different ending, ManlyBadAssHero played this a while ago (I just recommend him in general, he plays a lot of indie stuff)

[@Stella-wb9uf]

Thanks I’ll check it out :))

[@krims_kringle]

OMGOSH I HAVENT WATCHED HIM IN SO LONG! :D

[@TertiaryQuota]

I love MBH‼️

[@midgematic8659]

Goddamn, I adore this game. That ending was… man. Is it bad that I adore Ralph and Johnny’s relationship throughout this entire game, like you can completely understand both of their perspectives regarding each other. The writing of this game is fantastic and coupled with the gameplay easily makes this one of my favorite 2024 games of the year. I hope everyone who contributed to this project knows how exquisitely they cooked with this game!

[@omgtatercat]

I think you're meant to feel bad for both of them. Ralph isn't some cold monster, he hates what he does. He hates having to keep Johnny locked up and stealing his youth from him. Johnny is furious, of course, but eventually learns that Ralph is just so lonely and isn't just some heartless monster. Sure, some part of him will probably always resent Ralph, but he gets it. It's so freakin sad. This game does deserve more eyes on it.

[@branthegarbage]

It feels wrong to root for their friendship, because it's like textbook stockholm syndrome, but the little bits of story and dialogue we get between them are so compelling that you can't help but want things to end well for both And like the comment above me mentioned, Ralph feels awful about everything he does and isn't even close to mental stability, whether Zimforth is real or not (I personally believe he has to be), Ralph isn't really in control of what he does On an unrelated note, how the hell does bro get away with everything? He constantly stalks aroud, has killed at least a dozen people many of which don't live alone, and seemingly kidnapped Johnny in broad daylight, all over the course of 12 years while living in the same house (that he brings all the bodies to)

[@lampylightbulb]

​@@branthegarbage Because Zimforth didn't want him to be found out ig 💀👌

[@hulkaiden6178]

@@branthegarbage I was very curious about this after the scene where he abducts Johnny. I'm pretty sure he says something along the lines of "you saw me? But nobody ever sees me." Saying that after someone sees you in a grocery store seems incredibly weird.

[@branthegarbage]

Oh true, I forgot about that line, I remember being confused about it and expected it to be explained later but it never was My guess then is Zimforth has Ralph under some kind of protective spell that makes him unnoticeable, but for whatever reason Johnny was immune to it

[@callumsamericanfriend2943]

Been so excited to see the rest of this game, idk what it is but it has such a unique captivating vibe.

[@_Mimi_711]

It’s extremely unique, yea.

[@ceciliap5336]

right I was checking everyday to see if he uploaded the second part!

[@venti775]

Ok serial killer/j

[@can0cringe]

And I haven’t seen anyone say this yet, but: the sound effects??? hellOOOO?? They’re so good oh my _god_ the devs cooked

[@callumsamericanfriend2943]

@@can0cringe FOR REAL

[@madibelleasher330]

I feel like it'd be a neat idea that if people chose to kill Ralph, then Zimforth's new victim would be Johnny. It would be a hope sinking ending, but the events would kind of go full circle. Although I guess it'd be hard to do that when Johnny is completely blind. 😅

[@winnie_the_bleh]

that's exactly what i thought was gonna happen!! and it would be passed on and on and on

[@kochi2212]

I have a theory that maybe the player is Zimforth. Trying to ask for more “gameplay” and even having an endless mode. The player may not be the one trying to give instructions but by playing the game you are the one giving commands.

[@darkflames273]

I like this theory, it makes us the bad guys

[@moedrawings]

i used the first episode as background for working out. i would get so lost in this game because it was so interesting, I'd lose count and simply worked till i couldn't anymore. thanks adhd coach mark

[@oliverhorvath8496]

i love how at the podcast (29:06) the file was distractible.mp4

[@Merp-.-Merp]

And he doesn't even mention it lol, I can't tell if he actually noticed or not

[@leticiabarreiros5621]

@@Merp-.-Merp it's edited lol nice reference by Lixian

[@michelledavis2547]

righttt i literally went straight to the comments

[@waterteafan9264]

One of the best cutscenes of all games to me, very enticing and the talks are too interesting, it's good to see them more calm than just scream bloodly mrder

[@robindbank9670]

13:43 when ralph came SO close to stopping his delusions and johnny (most likely brainwashed from stockholm syndrome) reeled him back in was frustratingly a great way to show the tables turning

[@tadeocaputo2036]

Thats assuming the monster isnt real. Maybe they did cause the earthquake

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

Yeah but it was the largest earthquake in history

[@danielkiran8174]

This developer has a different game where Zimforth is real.

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

@@danielkiran8174 I'm Zimforth and I can confirm that I'm real

[@crabdott]

@@danielkiran8174 The games could be in different universes and the name could just have been reused as an easter egg, but idk

[@graeson3317]

This art style is so cool it fits the mood of the game so well and really adds to the insanity of the cut scenes.

[@mrCLOWNBAE]

ive never been more excited to watch a 2nd part of something. this game was so phenomenal to me i absolutely adored every second of it. johnny and ralph are such interesting characters and the art was beautiful!! and the voice acting was captivating.

[@namelessnavnls8060]

I just realized Ralph must've helped rehabilitate Johnny's legs after he realized Johnny couldn't walk.. That's really sad and wholesome. The two had/have a messed up relationship of course, but damn, that's... I don't really have a word for that. What an interesting story this is... Turning a man who should be a monster into an actual person.

[@hypersmiled2346]

Very little is said about this game soundtrack, like man, I can't imagine the game with a different music you can just tell the love that was put into this amazing game.

[@fyadollahi4735]

24:00 I spent so much time on this level because Andrea's schedule was so... confusing, and the prompt could be interpreted in different ways, some darker than others.

[@wednesdayangeline]

I'm still confused as to how it was worked out who shared blood :(

[@fyadollahi4735]

@@wednesdayangeline The two who shared blood were siblings. One of them went shopping with the mom (Leanne) and the other had dinner with her.

[@wednesdayangeline]

@@fyadollahi4735 Ohh okay thank you! I was confused by "some darker than others" haha

[@fyadollahi4735]

@@wednesdayangeline it could be interpreted different ways because Andrea was having sex with the two other housemates. So you could deduce that she was having an affair with her stepdad or uncle or cousin or something

[@dezdannaselaphiel8634]

Another tragic thing about this game is that, if Zimforth IS real, he may just have been lying the whole time about being able to end the world.

[@Kittgoop]

The reason it kept failing is because when he made a mistake instead of fixing it by doing the correct thing he would just move on to the next question, LOL

[@artyy5944]

I am only at 31:37 and don't know what happends next, so if the ritual is said to be incorrect, it is because when you made a mistake on the hours of sleep, you forgot to break the rib 24, wich was asked if sleep > 7h

[@artyy5944]

So not "it is the way it is" and quit

[@aguyuno]

No you’re correct he forgot rib 24 lol

[@insomniac8049]

Honestly wasn’t expecting much from this game because it’s not my usual style but wow. I played it myself after watching and I got to say even knowing the story and how it ends I loved it. D A M N Y O U Z I M F O R T H

[@brbdogking7643]

"Same maker as Clickholding" wow really diverse in his game making but GREAT on story on both sides.

[@Alysan73]

THIS WAS BY THE CLICKHOLDING GUY?????

[@elsie8757]

That was my reaction too, ngl

[@nicknevco215]

That was very creepy game

[@TheVagabond7]

The first episode was so horrific, but I found myself captivated. I had to know how the story ends, but it took me a couple of days to work up the nerve to watch part 2. Thank you for playing this one for us, Mark. Now I have to go cry in a corner for an hour.

[@TheLouzer_]

32:40 Forgetting to remove the lung because of the sleep and then thinking the GAME is wrong is CLASSIC Markiplier behavior, lol

[@ashlynnkae8446]

i was sad when he messed up doing ralph so i didnt get to see that ending and he thought it was the game. imagine my joy when he did it again for johnny, still assumed the game wrong again, so i still got to see ralph’s death’s ending first 😂😂😂

[@olive-h3b]

please tell me im not the only one who cried at johnny's lines at the end?..

[@TheRainstorm97]

You're not alone 😅

[@olive-h3b]

@@TheRainstorm97 thank god (but not zimforth)

[@darkflames273]

​@@olive-h3b why can't we praise both ;)

[@Galactic_Orca]

Poor Johnny, man. He got kidnapped, had his eyes destroyed, was kept in a dirty cage... He definitely developed some form of Stockholm Syndrome in his time down there :(

[@scrapeddiamonds5776]

i think he still has his eyes intact, just blindfolded.

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

He asked to have his eyes cut out

[@danitini14]

I know most people have grown up thinking this is a true phenomenon thanks to popular media, but Stockholm Syndrome isn't a real thing. If you look up its origin, some guy made it up when hostages sided with their captors because the captors cared about their lives more than the police (who were risking the hostages' lives while trying to get the criminals, bank robbers I think). The guy that coined the term never even spoke to the hostages, he just couldn't believe people would ever side with the "bad guys" over the "good guys" and decided it had to be a mental break.

[@scrapeddiamonds5776]

@@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 but the question is if he actually did it? or is his eyes still behind the blindfold, and he dont wanna remove the blindfold anymore just because.

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

@@scrapeddiamonds5776 That's a good question but I think he did do it

[@theend2860]

I would like to see this adapted into a movie or like an animated thing idk but I like the concept so much

[@oweyy_]

The fact it was left pretty up to interpretation if you think Zimforth is a real entity or to just showed how clinically insane Ralph was that he could believe such a thing is such a good ending. Here's my reasons why Zimforth is real though: The purple color is the biggest argument in Zimforth's favor. I think he is some of god manifesting in the form of purple smoke trail or light. - Why would the lamp and TV would suddenly change colors or the fact it's off/on? Johnny couldn't see it, only Ralph too. Don't think these are coincidences, think these are Zimforth's subtle reminders he's always there - Zimforth's color is clearly purple and especially through electrical equipment it can appear in the form of purple light. After the earthquake, the electricity that can be seen is very similar in color to his appearance. - In the other ending Mark didn't do where Ralph sacrifices Johnny, Zimforth's purple light is there in the overhead basement lamp, and vanishes when the ritual is over. The light of the sun from outside shines into the basement to light it, instead of the overhead basement lamp. This means the overhead lamp wasn't turned on, and was instead the real purple light of Zimforth. Other notes that I think support the Zimforth theory: - If Ralph was severely ill his madness should have started much sooner, it's stated he had no reason to kill anyone until ordered by Zimforth. - Ralph feels any pain or consequence the moment he disregards Zimforth's orders. Ralph had always followed orders out of fear before Johnny, and as soon has he disobeys there's immediate pain and other real-world consequences? - Ralph admits that he has never read the Bible, nor was in any church or cult. Which is interesting because an evil god does not necessarily need these to demonstrate his existence. Zimforth doesn't need a bible, a church or a cult to have manipulated weak people please him through ritualistic sacrifice. - The greatest earthquake follows from Ralph's denial of Zimforth's command. Before this when Ralph was always obedient for many years, there were no cruel events such as this at all. - Johnny initially thinks Ralph will commit the ritual on him, and Ralph says he has no intention to do so - he only acts on Zimforth's list. The sudden purple light shows Zimforth's existence here again, and quiets & stops Ralph as he knows Zimforth is observing. And if Zimforth wasn't real, why wouldn't Ralph want to kill Johnny already by then if he's just some deranged serial killer, whywould a murderer suddenly "change" to spare a random individual? Ralph only kills who he is given orders to by a deity, as it makes much more sense for Ralph to spare Johnny from sacrifice in the context of Zimforth being real. Ralph just does, only does "what he says." - Not as good of evidence, but the music of Johnny's death is titled "Zimforth's Final Request" Note: I don't think Zimforth is as strong as he claims, he appears much more than he really is, he's not allat. An important factor that increases Zimforth's evil and decreases his power is that he only has power over weak-willed people. He is a sadistic coward who can't target the mentally strong, those who can't be manipulated. He's supposed to be so strong that he could destroy the entire world? Torture in a person's mind, electrokinesis, geokinesis. Interesting powers, but weak for someone who can apparently end the entire universe. Even the show of Zimforth's wrath in the form of this big earthquake is only enough to moderately damage local infrastructure, and he's quick to show his wrath to Ralph through his headaches and the earthquakes since only the ritual is enough to please him. I just think Zimforth manipulates and lies about his "world-ending" ability to Ralph. If you can end the world Zimforth, why bother with one guy's murdering when the destruction of entire galaxies as sacrifice is within your reach? It's also unknown what Zimforth really is. Is he humanoid or not? Or is he literally the purple color / trail itself? Great game, great ending by the way. Really moving, loved the characters and their dynamics

[@Richie-nq4zz]

Schizophrenia is often overlooked until a psychotic episode, and that doesn't have to happen at all. The lights etc. could just be hallucinations/illusions, and his (strange, often paranoid) belief is fed by confirmation bias, picking up relevant informations, just as all people do. Bigger and bigger environmental catastrophies happen often, sadly (thanks climate change), and it could be just a random incident. Nothing happening in ten years is confirming that he's doing it right after all.. History of violence is not really necessary, and the violence is 'clearly' to keep himself safe (and the world in this case). He's also a social recluse and emotionally stunted which comes with the condition. Healthy people can start to believe in a schizophrenic person's beliefs as well, someone as traumatised and having to please his captor like Johnny could be more susceptible to it. The author/s did an amazing job of not leaning into either side. Reminds me a lot of a creepypasta called Psychosis, it's kinda similar! Btw thank you, I liked your arguments, helped me see it from a more horror/lovecraftian light since I'm leaning more towards the mental illness side :))

[@RedSonsTemper]

This was very interesting. Thanks for the insight!

[@Chrismas815]

Mark, i appreciate the sentiment of "find out for yourselves" but at least some of us watch /because/ we can't play the games ourselves

[@ratt_trap]

yeah highkey I hate when he does that because I literally watch his game plays because I don't have a computer and can't afford new games

[@pb4705]

Fr I was so hyped and then he hit us with the "actually"

[@rookideetrainer1635]

I recommend ManlyBadassHero, he only does indie games as far as I know, but he always gets all endings and secrets

[@durmgrid8037]

I really gotta say I think the vocal talent just absolutely NAILED it with this game. They did so good breathing life into these characters...

[@KoKosekAK]

Nice to see that Mark can relax a little and I hope that he will be able to achive what he wants

[@charlesboi9927]

bot

[@someguy2194]

Fun fact the ground can infact basically liquefy during an earthquake depending on the area soil liquefaction as its called is often happens in loose water logged sediments like swams rain forests or even structures built in a sandy area

[@Moddum123]

So good to see videos again, but always remember to Edge the Sleep

[@RainbowStarGumDrop]

Anyone notice how both jonny and ralph are wearing the exact same clothes aside from a hat and how ones younger than the other? What if... This is symbolic... What if Johnny is the same person. A younger version of Ralph. Symbolizing Ralph's conscience. Also sharing in the delusion. Just a thought.

[@GweiTheLeafChild]

... Johnny was kept in Ralph's basement for a full decade, I don't think Johnny gets to shop for his own clothes...

[@hi_human_num-1]

'it's time for more stalking' is crazy

[@kaitlynnl1087]

Love The Edge of Sleep. The ending had my JAW ON THE FLOOR. Great acting by everyone!

[@phalstreamsgames1246]

The most relatable thing was Johnny talking about going to school later. It's mucho correcto. This dev also made Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator which seems right up Mark's alley.

[@lizzeh]

It would've been interesting to have it be cyclical. Like if Johnny takes over being "Zimforths chosen one". But with the way the plot panned out I'm not sure he would be an effective stalker....

[@thepeacefulbuddah]

Fun Fact: Mark is old enough to run for president. *In Office with Markiplier* coming 2029.

[@riverpubby]

I dont think he would but I would vote for him so fast 😭

[@Mashiromitsumine409]

He has horrible opinions in politics he definitely shouldn't run for president

[@kylepermenter892]

​@Mashiromitsumine409 this is what the internet call a joke.

[@Srakch]

​@@Mashiromitsumine409 What are these opinions?

[@benneeds_a_name7398]

No no. In office with Markiplier is where Markiplier is the vice president and we, the viewer, are the president. President.

[@luciagameXD]

I’m glad to see you again!

[@dylanbowden6837]

seems like a missed opportunity to not use wades face when he was yelling bald

[@darenzjade5674]

WAKE UP NEW MARKIPLIER VID!!

[@Lux_EternaxX]

IM UP IM UP 😂

[@theNormalguy42]

No😴

[@KickedCrusader]

I've awoken from my content drought induced slumber

[@Cyrus_Does_Stuff]

I'm up...I'm up....

[@shiverarts8284]

Hi jade

[@spoon18]

Mark you need to play either mouthwashing, still wakes the deep, bad parenting, or silent hill remake whenever you can. Ik ur busy ok bye ily

[@justagrumpynerd]

idk about the others but in a stream mark said he probably wouldnt be playing silent hill BUT that mouthwashing was on his list!

[@TheHakanDK]

"you need to" is a big statement. It makes you wonder, or else what?

[@spoon18]

@@TheHakanDK you’re overthinking it. It’s a common phrase to suggest something to someone, but that’s why I also said “whenever you can” and “ik ur busy,” bc obviously no pressure. I won’t be mad if he doesn’t play any of the games lol, he can do whatever he wants. Just wanted to suggest some of my favs recently.

[@KimJongUnnie]

@@TheHakanDKno it doesn’t you’re just overreacting

[@covartion1501]

@@TheHakanDKits a figure of speech, like something is so likable or important that you just have to do it too- “you NEED to try this icecream!”, “ah i loved that movie, you need to watch it!”

[@nuraf1qh]

The voice acting in this game is spectacular man chef's kiss all the way

[@GloryBiscuit]

That end monologue straight up made me cry- Good Lord Why did the stalking game make me so emotional??😭

[@Xyrad69]

I love how this game gives us the sheer confusion of "Is zimforth real? Is he all in Ralphs head" and it pulls it off so well

[@thefakejoel7323]

This game makes me so sad :( i really love the concept and the dynamic between johnny and ralph, i sort of wish they went more in depth on the stort and the gameplay and all that though. Really cool game

[@thepoeticminecart]

every time he used an anonymity point and then used the wrong action, thereby voiding that point, hurt so bad.

[@YuriyZakk]

damn this was a dark and brutal game. I liked it, such a sad story. I was a little upset that Johnny stayed in the cage. He could have brought him into the house at least before Ralph died

[@kenabaloyan8798]

Is this like an overcomplicated Trolley Problem?

[@55alegria]

This was a really good story. Not exactly lovecraftian (well, not knowing if the Zimforth is real or not, or what it looks like does play into the fear of the unknown) but it is a tragic story about eldrich horror that ultimately tells about the monstrous side of humanity, so maybe it can count? I really liked the voice acting. It made the characters feel more real. And the comic book artsyle was great.

[@Pilocene_]

I was not expecting to find this game nearly as compelling as I did wow

[@silverflight01]

31:44 *"D A M N Y O U Z I M F O R T H"*

[@redbeardtheviking2221]

"CURSE YOU BAYLE" energy

[@goobieghost]

25:09 poor johnny, get the man a pillow and blanket 😭 at least!!

[@goobieghost]

i guess johnny won’t need those things…

[@jarh5281]

I absolutely adore this dev's games, this story was super intriguing and Ive been very happy to see you play it!!

[@galaxyGachadespacito]

I NEED AN ENDING WHERE THEY ARE BOTH HAPPY MY HEARTTTT

[@kurokaen2854]

This entire game and it's premise remind me a lot of the movie "A Knock at the Cabin," where you're just sitting there wondering if any of what's happening or what is going to happen is real or not

[@RedSonsTemper]

I think that game's a movie now!

[@Rattyboy-dw5ip]

The real question is, even if the world survives, he won’t be able to care for himself for a while, he’ll find beds uncomfortable and big meals too much, it’s all victim stuff

[@TrueHDR]

30:32 good thing he isn't lefting the wrongs!!!

[@DRU99L0RD]

15:23 I like how mark as gonna say something about the basement thing then changed his mind and was like eh i guess you're right

[@mawie19]

This day just got better

[@bxnes1306]

This needs to be made into a movie immediately. The story is so unique and I really want someone to play with the concept more. I was not expecting Johnny to begin to sympathize with Ralph and I think that relationship dynamic is really neat. I also want to see the consequences of him not killing Johnny.

[@Reeceamus]

@Mark (and others) for your comment around minute 25. Johnny still has to sleep in the cage (like, Ralph still makes him), so that he can't do or try anything while Ralph is sleeping (such as escape, calling the cops, murder, suicide, etc).

[@mogarex8994]

if you think about it whatever you choose to kill Ralph or Jonny in the end if Zimforth is anything close to a god it will either have Ralph's soul or his body under his control, kind of depressing to think about

[@eminemforever8271]

I can't believe Markiplier was the bay harbour butcher all along...

[@latvia4205]

This isn't even a short, it's not even Dexter related, WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP COMING FROM?? 😭🤣

[@Auverine]

LMAO

[@theDeathgirl045]

Bro I'm watching Dexter right now!

[@Puzzle391]

@@latvia4205 There are def some parallels though, its not completely incorrect.

[@aar1551patd5115fob]

15:45 "Me three guys! Me three! We're all friends!" (Me when I watch Mark play letsplays and feeling that parasocial connection)

[@kexard]

I like the fact that the evil god basically gave proof to Johnny of his existence. “Oh, I’m not real? Here: see what Ralph sees. That real enough for you?”

[@undviik1702]

I'm just happy johnny got to live man

[@n646n]

yeah but Ralph doomed everyone so he could live for 1 day. In reality people his age die every second.

[@starshinobi1694]

Not me just realizing that the heart is still beating as ribs are being broken and organs are being removed....

[@Nyitemare]

Such a banger of a game, harsh and grim but its clever to make you desensitised to the reality of what you're doing a bit. The actual gameplay loop not being so dramatic until you have to actually DO the act. Clickholding was excellent too, great game studio!

[@mothiestman4995]

Huh. Did not expect this to turn into a deeply unhealthy "love" story. Wild.

[@Arthrobug]

This game is actually a masterpiece. This is going to be swirling around in my head for *months.* The incredible voice acting only sold the bleak storyline even further, and the anonymity about whether or not Zimforth was actually real was the cherry on top.

[@corashomin71]

when I read the title of this episode I KNEW Zimforth would try to make you kill Johnny

[@cooliostarstache5474]

How did this game get me to care so much about its cast? Incredible work, congrats to the creator for such an interesting and unique work of art they have here

[@deadzer0535]

would love to see you play A Quiet Place with Wade and the gang...

[@tammyhicks1450]

A five second game if they had the microphone part on!