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David Bombal

David Bombal

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@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed this is even possible! Running so many hypervisors and so many virtual machines at the same time? x86 and x64 and ARM all at the same time? Impossible some may say.... well.... let's see shall we? Doesn't matter if you want to be an Ethical hacker, or developer, or a network engineer, or work with AI, or computer science.... virtualization is a core skill in Information Technology - and you need to learn this. Learning about Virtual Machines, Type 1 and Type 2 Hypervisors and basic virtualization can really change your life. This is a core skill. // MENU // 00:00 - Introduction 01:06 - Previous Opinion 01:22 - Revisiting VirtualBox 02:11 - Running UTM 02:55 - Running VMWare and Parallel 03:14 - M1/M2 vs Intel 03:56 - Parallel Deep dive 04:38 - VirtualBox Pros and Cons 05:18 - UTM Pros and Cons 05:55 - VirtualBox Architecture Problems 07:12 - Where to get UTM 07:19 - UTM Architecture Capabilities 08:30 - Parallels vs UTM 10:00 - VMWare Fusion 10:41 - Summary 12:33 - What do you think? // David's SOCIAL // Discord: discord.gg/davidbombal Twitter: twitter.com/davidbombal Instagram: instagram.com/davidbombal LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/davidbombal Facebook: facebook.com/davidbombal.co TikTok: tiktok.com/@davidbombal KZbin Main Channel: kzbin.info KZbin Tech Channel: kzbin.info/door/ZTIRrENWr_rjVoA7BcUE_A KZbin Clips Channel: kzbin.info/door/bY5wGxQgIiAeMdNkW5wM6Q KZbin Shorts Channel: kzbin.info/door/EyCubIF0e8MYi1jkgVepKg Apple Podcast: davidbombal.wiki/applepodcast Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/3f6k6gERfuriI96efWWLQQ // MY STUFF // www.amazon.com/shop/davidbombal // SPONSORS // Interested in sponsoring my videos? Reach out to my team here: sponsors@davidbombal.com Disclaimer: This video is for educational purposes only. Please note that links listed may be affiliate links and provide me with a small percentage/kickback should you use them to purchase any of the items listed or recommended. Thank you for supporting me and this channel!
@All-us
@All-us 2 жыл бұрын
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@haroonrehman8156
@haroonrehman8156 2 жыл бұрын
You are getting better in better in your Content
@guitart
@guitart 2 жыл бұрын
Hey David, we discussed about UTM in your last video... and the day after VirtualBox 7 was released! Coincidence? I think NOT! 🤣
@kidoflp
@kidoflp 2 жыл бұрын
could you plese make a full vidoe on how to use QEMU on Windows 11 main mechine.. Thanks :)
@entelin
@entelin 2 жыл бұрын
You can do this fine on linux amd64 using kvm & qemu. Obviously you take a performance hit for non native architectures that you need to emulate.
@duscraftphoto
@duscraftphoto 2 жыл бұрын
Great information, as usual! I use UTM and Parallels on my M1 Mac mini and I have VirtualBox and VMware Fusion on my i7 MacBook Pro. UTM is great for the M series Macs and the fact that it's free is even better! Keep up these great series!
@JosePj
@JosePj 6 ай бұрын
Would you recommend UTM or Parallels to run AutoCad on a MBP M3 chip with Windows?
@saadqayyum4739
@saadqayyum4739 3 ай бұрын
Random question, can you run games on utm with hard ware acceleration or na Parallels uses hardware acceleration and runs most modern games very smoothly
@whiteavocado-000
@whiteavocado-000 2 жыл бұрын
Nice informational vid David. Thanks!
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@firestormsentry80
@firestormsentry80 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration, Mr. Bombal. An instructor once told me that MacBook M1 was not a virtualization-friendly architecture, so buying an M1 laptop would not be conducive to VM work. This video was a needed demonstration for me to see that M2 chips, if not the M1s, at least attempt virtualization for some operating systems. Since this is a demo of an M2 system, perhaps the M2 might be more acceptable than an M1 for VM work? P.S. Thank you for the nostalgia trip, '98 (11:07-11:12).
@jayraza1386
@jayraza1386 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, great to see your team are responding to comments. Great video! I'm sick of my Lenovo!! And I love when the fan kicks in and all I hear is humming haha! Definitely considering a 2nd hand mac book now :) never heard of UTM before. Learning something new everyday in tech :)
@smzaman111
@smzaman111 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David for creating another beneficial clip.
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@esaelvladimir3672
@esaelvladimir3672 2 жыл бұрын
Great job and waiting for this david happy weekend to you
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@konstantinosalvertos8206
@konstantinosalvertos8206 2 жыл бұрын
I have managed to run Virtual Box and Hyper-V at the same time on my 11th gen i7 Intel processor without any issues. Also I have managed with my Threadripper to run nested virtualization. HV #1 was KVM/QEMU and then Hyper-V on HV #2 (the virtual Hypervisor) to run all sorts of VM's successfully. Considering speed and emulation that is the difference between a CISC and a RISC Processor (Threadrippers, intel and amd CPU's are CISCs and arm are RISCs) when it comes to speed. Finally UTM is just a shiny QEMU. KVM/QEMU in case anyone is wondering is the champion of Hypervisors that runs on Linux. It gives you the ability to do pretty much anything (Fortune 500 companies use KVM/QEMU on their infrastructure with Red Hat Linux). KVM/QEMU even gives you the ability to pass through your H/W directly to a VM (great if you want a dedicated VM to connect a USB stick and make sure you won't get any viruses, ransomware etc. to your main system or make a virtual Gaming PC like mine).
@emreyavuz4706
@emreyavuz4706 2 жыл бұрын
Focusing the camera to the arm when he was talking about ARM architecture :D Such a detailed work...
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for noticing :)
@aaronag7876
@aaronag7876 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding demonstration and really shows off the differences between the hypervisors. Hadn't seen that virtualbox 7 was released
@davidbombal
@davidbombal Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video Aaron! And thank you!
@KakaTu272
@KakaTu272 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David , summarised and to the point .
@JustFelipeBrito
@JustFelipeBrito 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best Review that I've ever seen! Congrats.
@CenterZero_DeadSecurity
@CenterZero_DeadSecurity 2 жыл бұрын
great video, these edits are gold
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you like them!
@colorfulfahim
@colorfulfahim 2 жыл бұрын
Take ❤️❤️❤️ from Bangladesh..Sir make knowledge free for everyone
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@themarksmith
@themarksmith 2 жыл бұрын
Useful stuff - hadnt heard of UTM so just downloaded it - thank you!
@encryptedjim
@encryptedjim 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered this same platform this morning!
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
The M2 is great :)
@brents2500
@brents2500 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks for the great work and upload. I've been curious as to how virtualization would work with macOS going forward after they moved to Arm. Looks like things are coming along well.
@iblackfeathers
@iblackfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
you could also break down the paid versions into different categories: pay once and subscription. parallels pro version is an annual fee of $120, while the standard version is a one-time fee of $100. not a fan of everything heading to subscription models, that i think (generally speaking) paying once should be selected by users more often… to encourage developers to not jump strictly right into that pay model. this gives users more choices to feasibly use their software because it is diminishing returns on the end of the user having to commit their money to so many subscriptions already.
@FTLN
@FTLN 2 жыл бұрын
Why not run esxi in one of your hypervisors or hyperer-v inside a windows VM?
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I've done this in the past, but it can get slower nesting virtual machines within virtual machines within virtual machines. In this video I show linux within VMware Player within Windows within Fusion within macOS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3m3ZZ6naJuDe5Y
@MachiiOpentheBottel
@MachiiOpentheBottel 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! David sir, it was amazing ! Thanks. Love from Srilanka
@MarcoKatITA
@MarcoKatITA 4 ай бұрын
im trying to rum with UTM a linux mandriva 2007 vm , please i need to know the settings , it doesn't work
@johndoeofficial4095
@johndoeofficial4095 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, thank you very much indeed for this videos. Are very usefull for people who try to learn CS and cybersecurity.
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome
@snailsec
@snailsec 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! Thats what i was talking about :D
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@snailsec
@snailsec 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbombal sure did ✌️
@MrPerrisC
@MrPerrisC 4 ай бұрын
Quite excellent information thank you for this vid, sorry I didn't see it sooner. Hopefully you're still servicing comments and requests? What I would love to see is virtualizing Mac OS on any m CPU, benchmark that virtualized version of Mac OS, compare it to virtualizing Windows on arm using the same resources as the virtualized Mac OS. I've never seen a side-by-side performance comparison, when both had to use the same restrictions on the virtualization. If you never get to this thank you for the video regardless
@noirbl00d98
@noirbl00d98 2 жыл бұрын
The effects are great 🖤
@djnikx1
@djnikx1 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on David! VirtualBox start 'lagging behind' since 6.1.30. Had to move EVERYTHING to VMWare. I'll try UTM.
@SaxaphoneMan42
@SaxaphoneMan42 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept I suppose, but I'm not sure what the use case would be to using multiple hypervisors at the same time, when you could just use the one that fits your needs and spin up multiple VMs from that.
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I think in most cases you would be correct. However, if you prefer using Parallels for example, but want to interact with x86 or x64 then you would either have to switch everything to UTM or just spin up a UTM x86/x64 while using Parallels for ARM. I've personally had times when I wished I could spin up multiple hypervisors for testing, but wasn't able to on intel.
@okjosh
@okjosh 2 жыл бұрын
Making KZbin videos on extreme virtualization.
@LearningandTechnology
@LearningandTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
One use-case is for doing Data Centre training. You can run a hypervisor that runs Type 1 VMs and then run the Type 2 VMs on those. It won’t be fast… but it does allow for Virtualization the Data Centre tools and learn them. It’s like nested dolls 😂
@SuperWubDub
@SuperWubDub 2 жыл бұрын
would this aid in privacy/online anonymity?
@brodriguez11000
@brodriguez11000 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperWubDub I suspect that's the idea behind mixnet.
@DJNuckChorris
@DJNuckChorris 2 жыл бұрын
As a working professional in cybersecurity I would strongly recommend against the ARM architecture Macs. When it comes to the software you try to run after installing your Aarm64 OS, most tools have not been coded to work on ARM. X86 based CPU’s just work, no emulation or aarm64 software builds needed.
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned something similar in the previous video I mentioned in this video. Which tools have issues? What other issues have you had? Be great if you can share as others will read the comments and can learn from your experiences.
@davidb9323
@davidb9323 2 жыл бұрын
I like how David Bombal disproves this in the first few minutes with his experience.
@PurpleTeamer
@PurpleTeamer 2 жыл бұрын
I learned the hard way with crapple crapbook pro m1 I got at work. will swap for whatever surface or lenovo they have.absolutely terrible and completely useless for power users.
@MarkSowell
@MarkSowell 2 жыл бұрын
When the M1 MacBook Pro was first released last year I came to the same conclusion. However, I just recently tried making the switch again and I haven’t ran into any issues. All of the tools I use for professional cybersecurity pen testing/appsec testing install and run much better on M1.
@PurpleTeamer
@PurpleTeamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkSowell I passed my OSCP and OSCE exam on a cheap lenovo x230 running kali on as virtualbox guest. If I attended the exam with the crapple, I would have failed wasting my time troubleshooting UTM. macs are a meme and you know it.give me a single "pentest" tool that run exclusevely on crapple M1 that dont run on walmart PC.
@scottym50
@scottym50 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and thank you David. This is going to be interesting to play around with. We will have to wait to see where they are going with this.
@tyrojames9937
@tyrojames9937 2 жыл бұрын
Virtualization is a BEAST!
@philmccartney3214
@philmccartney3214 3 ай бұрын
I've used VirtualBox in the past and found it to fit my needs. It's been more than 2 years since I last did anything with virtualization, so the other day, I decided I would give it another go. VirtualBox has made some significant changes with VB-7. It wasn't as easy to install as it used to be, but with a couple of modifications, I was able to get VB-7 up and running again, just fine on my Linux host.
@Abedoss
@Abedoss 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, it's the only video I found that point directly to what's important, without diving deep in one of the hypervisors and leaving others. And that's what I want as what you may call a power-user, that was sufficient for me. And I was wondering about the state of same hypervisors on an Intel Mac, I hope you at least note about it in a next video.
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
You can use VMware Fusion for free on Intel (commercial use) and you can buy Parallels. In my tests (and from what others have told me), Virtualbox is not as good as VMware or Parallels. I personally use the paid version of VMware Fusion and have found it to be great. In this video I show a bunch of VMs on Intel Mac: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3m3ZZ6naJuDe5Y
@proppageezer
@proppageezer 2 жыл бұрын
Like you said you could only get small Linux kernels to run. You can do all of this with ease on ESX and VMware Workstation. I've done it myself, multiple VMs with different architectures and no issues. The only roadblock with doing this on a laptop is you eventually run out of cores, but it really depends what you are doing on each VM. You just need the right tools for the job.
@michaeldpotter
@michaeldpotter 2 жыл бұрын
What versions of ESX and VMware workstation are you using for the ARM architecture?
@chrysun9891
@chrysun9891 2 жыл бұрын
running VMWare on a x64 arch host?
@michaeldpotter
@michaeldpotter 2 жыл бұрын
What I'm saying is that can't "do all of this with ease on ESX and VMware Workstation" because ESX and VMware Workstation only run on Intel architectures. Unless you're talking about running ESX on a Raspberry Pi, but even then you can't run a MacOS virtual machine on ARM unless it's an M1/2 Mac. 🤷🏼‍♂
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask how you were running ARM on VMware ESXi and Workstation. And running Apple VMs. Thanks for the extra clarification Michael.
@antonbotha2857
@antonbotha2857 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, you can’t compare a Tier 1 hypervisor with a Tier 2 hypervisor… ESX and proxmox is Tier 1 and UTM, Virtualbox, Parallels and Vmware Fusion is Tier 2.
@cspell
@cspell 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, I’ll getting an M2 Mac, will have to try UTM
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
It's free, so worth seeing if it works.
@QuaaludeCharlie
@QuaaludeCharlie 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to not like Emulation , I like Native Hardware with a Native OS , But this is just pretty cool . I can see a few Uses for this .... Thank you for showing it can be done .
@BhagyaJani
@BhagyaJani 2 жыл бұрын
Hey david , I am craving to buy an new MacBook as an computer system technology student, but my school recommends me to buy an windows laptop but still I had made my mind to buy an MacBook. So my question is that , I want to be an network architect in future so will macbook be a great idea or do i just stick up with windows. My usage for school is vmware, we mostly run windows server and centos . So if possible can you suggest me what to do ?
@siennajohan5161
@siennajohan5161 2 жыл бұрын
I love this content ❤
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to hear that!
@tinman9341
@tinman9341 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an M1 MacBook Pro and went back to Intel because I needed virtualization. If this is possible, it opens up so many opportunities now!!! Thanks Mr. Bombal!!!
@DavidAlvesWeb
@DavidAlvesWeb Жыл бұрын
Very useful! Thank you :)
@franciscolopez9881
@franciscolopez9881 2 жыл бұрын
BROTHER, YOU ARE THE BEST!!! You oooh really helped me!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
@AY-gf3jq
@AY-gf3jq 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting concept. I who was concerned about the way I could work on x64 arch if I switched to ARM machines. With this demo there no need worrying about that anymore. Thanks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ekomulyadi679
@ekomulyadi679 2 жыл бұрын
I love virtualization a lot...thank you for sharing and inspiring
@sourovekummarsaha5837
@sourovekummarsaha5837 2 жыл бұрын
Starting to learn great things from your contents. Thank you 🙂
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that!
@chuyennguyen5618
@chuyennguyen5618 2 жыл бұрын
This worked incredibly well! I can finally play it thanks
@sumedhmulik6722
@sumedhmulik6722 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing info !!! I knew that M1/M2 chips were very capable but this is something else entirely... I wish you made more of such videos for OS and network virtualization topics 🙂
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
More to come! What type of virtualization topics are you interested in learning about?
@sumedhmulik6722
@sumedhmulik6722 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbombal definitely more of Cisco ios and junos virtualization on gns3 and VMware... I already see that you have done some but wondered if there was more to explore in those topics!!! Also type one hypervisors in depth would be great!!! Thank you 🙂
@lumin0l161
@lumin0l161 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbombal David, can you make a video demoing some basic network virtualisation?
@christiankhairallah397
@christiankhairallah397 2 жыл бұрын
i have a question does Windows server works on UTM or VMware fusion? because i cant find anything that says it works
@ognjenjakovljevic494
@ognjenjakovljevic494 2 жыл бұрын
Oh mr. Hier my favourite vm person on yt 🙃
@actiontower
@actiontower 10 ай бұрын
to run 64X on virtualBox you have to enable Virtualization in Bios (as i remember there are 2 options you have to enable - one of them is Virtualization).
@railghar
@railghar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice sir your video is always increasing our knowlage
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@Mido-qr6bw
@Mido-qr6bw 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m torned part between getting a Lenovo X1 Carbon and Macbook Air M2 to start my learning path on Ethical Hacking. I really love Apple products and I can see that UTM helps with emulating x86/64 architecture OS but in your opinion is it “usable” in real life situation ?I’ve seen some comments said that the performance of Kali x64 emulation in UTM is too slow to consider as a option. Thank you !
@autohmae
@autohmae 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is: it's a new system architecture (not instruction set of course) designed from scratch with virtualization in mind. And the software as well. The underlying software of UTM is Qemu, which supports snapshots, so I would be surprised if it's not created at some point.
@nicholasdrakakis1004
@nicholasdrakakis1004 6 ай бұрын
David -- How have you set up you Hypervisor for running windows 98 at x86 ; also regarding old hardware such as a jumbo tape drive - how might you connect this hardware.?
@mrusli7673
@mrusli7673 Жыл бұрын
David Bombal what macbook or mac mini are you using
@clintdarocha6272
@clintdarocha6272 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Thank you. I nearly reverted back to my intel mac after struggling to make vmware work. Thankfully parralels came to the rescue. However learning ethical hacking on the new M2 is still a challenge for me. Its almost as if all my Software is broken.
@BaruBelajar204
@BaruBelajar204 7 ай бұрын
Hi, so Kali Linux on a virtual isn't performing well when running tools ? Could you let me know what kind of tools you're using? I'm considering buying a MacBook for cybersecurity work and would like some advice.
@guitart
@guitart 2 жыл бұрын
As a HUGE UTM fanboy I've noticed that the best distros for aarch64 are Debian ARM and Arch ARM, I don't know why but with this two I feel like running on bare metal! I've tried BlackArch (so emulation x86) and it was a complete disaster... You are right: if you want an affordable and robust hypervisor you have to go with Parallels for sure, it's worth the 100 bucks per year!
@RingZero
@RingZero Жыл бұрын
$100 per year? 🙂
@atpray
@atpray 2 жыл бұрын
3:23 you got me 😂
@oscarolea2907
@oscarolea2907 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks so much for this video!
@antoniocolorado8367
@antoniocolorado8367 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Thanks a lot for the video
@NattyFlump
@NattyFlump 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't given UTM a look before, always used Parallels or Fusion. Definitely added to the project list to try out as I've never really trusted VMware to keep their software free or functional without moving to the paid option. Parallels is great, but a free, featured, alternative is pretty awesome.
@adriangibbs
@adriangibbs 2 жыл бұрын
🤯mind blown. So far I have tried the free version of VMWare Fusion 13 to run Windows 11 and I am impressed. I'm open to trying Parallels, but I can't justify paying for it at the moment.
@Tech-geeky
@Tech-geeky Жыл бұрын
Parallels charges too much... However i think more companies will go the subscription route and the offshoot would be "we can provide our customers with more feature" Give then an incentive to pay,, But it's still too pricy. Although its the only products that offers 3D acceleration on Apple silicon natively, while other do OpenGL, as they have always done One could argue that' increases performance..
@PlatePursuits
@PlatePursuits 7 ай бұрын
Mr. Bombal have you gotten the new MacBook to successfully run GNS3 or EVE-NG?
@mrusli7673
@mrusli7673 2 жыл бұрын
That's what many pentesters are facing when they use apple silicon macs that running utm is slow. I'm glad David, show us the video clip to watch.
@cloudguru3018
@cloudguru3018 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always David! Thank you very much! Can we run EVE-NG or GNS3 on M1 chip?
@NomadicDmitry
@NomadicDmitry Жыл бұрын
I think I am going to agree that Parallels is the best. The most intuitive one. UTM is fun to play around, but it caused some trouble for me as well in terms of stability. Virtual Box is a no go!
@LemonsRage
@LemonsRage Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the pricing is a bit high.
@allybata1
@allybata1 2 жыл бұрын
Would you create a video with Network Chuck where you install & run all if these in a cloud platform for those of us who can afford the cloud monthly subscription but not necessarily new laptops/hardware? That would be AMAZING to have both of you collaborate!!!! I'm a single mom and have to stretch my $ as much as I can. Thank You
@quickcurechef5373
@quickcurechef5373 2 жыл бұрын
2nd that ✌️
@mgjk
@mgjk 2 жыл бұрын
Great piece on M2... was just deciding on whether or not to ask work for an M2 or old Intel... going for the M2 as what you've shown is certainly good enough for my needs. I never had a problem running x86 and x64 architectures on Intel Mac or running VMWare and Virtualbox simultaneously. It makes networking... interesting, but even that works. It's not possible to virtualize a non-native CPU, the instruction set and architecture need to be emulated. Is there some breakthrough I haven't heard of?
@ChasedWheels
@ChasedWheels 5 ай бұрын
Hi David, I am considering buying a M3. Does these Tips apply to it?
@shaunpugh3287
@shaunpugh3287 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. This is exactly the type of video I was looking for with regards to virtualisation on Apple Silicon. I have an M1 Air and I'm now finding myself having to set up a test/demo lab but with some Windows servers thrown in there. I could run some of this in Azure but I want some of it running locally. It's been a while since I've looked at running VMs on Mac and I was thinking do I get a Mac with more RAM as 16GB is limiting for VMs, but I see it's probably not the way to go for my workloads. I'll invest in a NUC or similar instead as the VM lab as this seems like the most compatible and cost-effective option.
@GianniCostanzi
@GianniCostanzi Жыл бұрын
This is what I did, I’ve made my own home lab on an Intel Nuc 10 with 32GB of ram (in the process of upgrading to 64GB), so I could move from my old Intel Mac to a new M1 MacBook Pro 😊 Intel Nuc with Proxmox VE is amazing for me, I’ve used it to build a Kubernetes+CEPH cluster to study for CKA and it works like a sharm. It has quite poor gpu but Fedora 37 Workstation and windows 10 VMs works very well for what I need.
@photoniccannon2117
@photoniccannon2117 Жыл бұрын
When I first got my 8GB M1 MacBook Pro, I threw UTM onto it and got a 4GB virtual machine going, then started up iOS simulators on XCode at the same time side-by-side. Threw swap usage through the roof (multiple VSCode windows, nodeJS services for React, among other things were running simultaneously), but the system remained very responsive and didn't miss a beat despite having higher swap usage than I had RAM in the entire system. It did lag very slightly when switching apps (running a browser at the same time would also cause it to hang slightly when switching tabs), but aside from this, there were hardly any other signs that the system was being pushed this hard. I was quite impressed with how well it managed such a ludicrous workload on such a tight RAM setup (however suboptimal it was on an 8GB rig). Definitely going to upgrade eventually, but it's far from unusable.
@aswincvenu3958
@aswincvenu3958 2 жыл бұрын
What's the overhead for emulating x86 on M1?
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have details, but I found performance poor for large operating systems like Windows 10 etc.
@frodev728
@frodev728 19 күн бұрын
Is there any chance of getting a power PC version of Mac OS running on a M1 Mac? in any way at all. I'd love to play some old games I have.
@its-me-dj
@its-me-dj 2 жыл бұрын
That's impressive with that piece of hardware. On my x86_64 Linux host (i5 6700k), I am able to run three virtual machines at the same time, Linux Mint 21, Windows 11 and MacOS Catalina smoothly on KVM. Athough they are only running on the same archtecture as the host, I thought that was pretty interesting.
@KDE666
@KDE666 2 жыл бұрын
where to get macOS iso's?
@Joe3D
@Joe3D 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't virtualize also macOS 9 PowerPC? Would be great to see.
@invasion8318
@invasion8318 Жыл бұрын
Parallels is waaay too expensive and on top of that it only supports ARM.. I think that this time i am forced to choose surface pro 9 instead of a MacBook.. unfortunately
@Raph-1001
@Raph-1001 2 жыл бұрын
David, you mentioned you liked Parallels, but didn’t really mention any reason why you preferred Parallels over VMfusion. I’m currently using VMfusion, but wanted to see if there was any reason to switch the Parallels. Thanks for the good content.
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
As I mention in the video, VMWare Fusion on M1/M2 is currently in Tech Preview (and has been for a long time). It's not a final product yet and we don't know if VMware will charge for it, or if it will be free. VMware said that they wouldn't be supporting Windows on Mac (only Linux). Looks like that may have changed since their original announcement - check their announcements. In my experience (which may be different to others), I find that VMware are crippling their free products. VMware Workstation Player is limited compared to Pro. If you are happy with VMware, then there is no major reason to change. There is good and bad in both products. Best is to download both and see which you like.
@Airbag888
@Airbag888 2 жыл бұрын
How can I hide the virtual host from the guests especially when using virtual box or the like to make sure the guests do NOT know they are on a hypervisor
@wolfrevokcats7890
@wolfrevokcats7890 2 жыл бұрын
I was avoiding new M1/M2 MacBook because these issues. Do I need to reconsider it for my next laptop purchase?
@Axel-rs3cg
@Axel-rs3cg Жыл бұрын
enjoyed your complete and contrast 👍
@hypetamon8267
@hypetamon8267 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I know This might be a stupid question to ask. But is there a UTM for windows or software such as UTM that can run comfortably in Windows?
@franciscolinares7392
@franciscolinares7392 5 ай бұрын
WSL and WSL2 is good for Linux. VMware for anything else
@MrYungilike
@MrYungilike 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your observations, David. So that's why I purchased a refurbished Intel-based MBP at 2021, I use pretty much x64 vms on mac. And at the time of that purchase, I also started to keep watching the progress of processor emulation on ARM based MacOS, which could help me decide the next choice of laptop - mac or what?
@alejandro5138
@alejandro5138 2 жыл бұрын
I use UTM with windows 10 x64 for MS SQL Server (cause it's only available on windows), starting is slow but acceptable. David, can you make tutorial for UTM? ;D
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
What type of tutorial? The only thing I could show is installation maybe?
@LampJustin
@LampJustin 2 жыл бұрын
@alejandrO do you need the full mssql? Because it can also run in docker containers on Linux! (library/microsoft-mssql-server) Also Postgres has an abstraction layer that is compatible with mssql syntax XD
@daviddike1071
@daviddike1071 2 ай бұрын
how do you drag and drop files from your mac to virtual machines in UTM
@JosePj
@JosePj 6 ай бұрын
Which one would you recommend to run Autocad on a Mac through a virtual machine with Windows 11, UTM or Parallels?
@_zerosecurity_
@_zerosecurity_ 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mr David for this info , I will pay macbook air M2 and useing UTM and do cyber Security stuff. Big love from sudan
@hokyunryu6289
@hokyunryu6289 Ай бұрын
I am using UTM and having trouble finding a solution to extend my Window display to a second monitor. When I connect my external monitor to my macbook, the extended display will be of the mac os. How do I extend my Window display to my external monitor?
@aswinkarthi7594
@aswinkarthi7594 9 ай бұрын
64 bit kali Linux and other os are run in udm and VMware in Mac M1 ...??
@osamashurrab3277
@osamashurrab3277 2 жыл бұрын
Great job 👍
@davidbombal
@davidbombal 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@theloniousMac
@theloniousMac 2 жыл бұрын
After I got my MacBook Pro M1 Max, my backpack got much lighter. I just use Parallels because it’s fast, I run Windows 11, the MacOS native, and Kali Linux. All running at the same time. It’s great!
@chrizonline
@chrizonline 7 ай бұрын
May I find out what is the specs of your M1 macbook air that was running all those VMs?
@shawnthornton497
@shawnthornton497 Жыл бұрын
How are you running an x86 64-bit version of an operating system on the M1?
@daviddean4061
@daviddean4061 4 ай бұрын
This would have been much more interesting if views of the Activity Monitor and detailed info about VM CPU and memory allocation were also included.
@MrChrisLia
@MrChrisLia 2 жыл бұрын
One issue I have with parallels is you need to pay for the upgrade to keep things working smoothly. For example my kernel on kali linux isn’t supported by parallels 17, so I lost the copy and paste function between 2 VMs. Apparently it’s fixed in parallels 18, but that’s a $70 upgrade to get copy and paste back
@alanhoff89
@alanhoff89 2 жыл бұрын
No, you're paying $70 to upgrade an old product into a new one, having your copy/paste functionality back is a side effect.
@jacobburgin826
@jacobburgin826 22 сағат бұрын
Can we get an update to this video? Thanks David!
@cryptotech4401
@cryptotech4401 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David, Just wondering which Curved monitor you are using? Wanting to buy one and yours looks nice. Thanks
@K4rha
@K4rha Күн бұрын
Does windows 10 work flawless yet? Thinking of buying an m4 mac, but im gonna need virtual win10 and winxp, both 32 and 64bit :/
@jaikishore7184
@jaikishore7184 2 жыл бұрын
How to run these in full screen mode?? Please explain if possible..
@arthurd6495
@arthurd6495 Жыл бұрын
great info. thanks David.
@Adnan-xf1mp
@Adnan-xf1mp 3 ай бұрын
Hi David, Thanks for this video, can i run GNS3 VM on UTM using Macbook Pro with M3 Pro chip? Thank you
@tigreonice2339
@tigreonice2339 2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I saw a video of a virus installed in virtual machine attacking host machine... youtube channel is called lifeen. What you can do to prevent that?
@psycl0ptic
@psycl0ptic 2 жыл бұрын
don't install a virus in your guest VM ;). harden your host.
@tigreonice2339
@tigreonice2339 2 жыл бұрын
@@psycl0ptic how to harden aside of dont share folders bidirectional? Maybe it was because vm has the same public ip as the host?
@uncopino
@uncopino Жыл бұрын
what are the specs on this m2 mb air though?
@TrickyP88
@TrickyP88 3 ай бұрын
I think this helped me out I have an intel MAC but in the future I want to upgrade to an M series Mac but my work is about to put me through my 2nd SANS course and on their site they don’t recommend Mac M series as their VMs won’t work based on its architecture Do you know if I will have issues by running their VMs on UTM?
@ElreyRayo
@ElreyRayo 2 жыл бұрын
Gracias from Texas 👍
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