This Linux PC Runs macOS Faster Than a Real Mac

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Snazzy Labs

Snazzy Labs

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@ppBizU
@ppBizU 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Waiting to hear how to configure GPU passthrough Snazzy: Let's skip the boring part : (
@420247paul
@420247paul 4 жыл бұрын
the arch wiki will tell u how to do that
@MaxMacZone
@MaxMacZone 4 жыл бұрын
Ever since switching to Arch I now don't make any decisions in life without consulting the wiki.
@notionpicture
@notionpicture 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaxMacZone hahaha that's hilarious
@TheGuy-tc8wm
@TheGuy-tc8wm 4 жыл бұрын
Check out some ordinary gamers. He did a tutorial on it.
@Spyke_misc
@Spyke_misc 4 жыл бұрын
yeah seems like the hard part, i just wonder if kvm-QEMU can also run windows ? And maybe like create shortcut on a desktop gui basis ? (i need a secondary low end gpu though)
@reid4625
@reid4625 4 жыл бұрын
Then: "The fastest Macintosh is an Amiga" Now: "The fastest Mac is a Linux PC" turns out not much has changed since then
@KoCMoHaBT61
@KoCMoHaBT61 4 жыл бұрын
Let's emulate modern OS in Amiga 500 with OCS! In 68000 assembler, for sure.
@dub2536
@dub2536 4 жыл бұрын
I still have my Amiga 500 in my attic somewhere. Love that thing. I think it was underrated in the USA back then IMO! Peace!
@Furzkampfbomber
@Furzkampfbomber 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I can remember having run a MS-Dos emulator on an Atari ST emulator. On a Amiga 1200. :D
@victorx4648
@victorx4648 4 жыл бұрын
@@dub2536 My Amiga 1200 is right beside me right now. Although, I did not turn it on for a long time.
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 4 жыл бұрын
as far as I am concerned my Linux PCs with Intel Core i7 Haswell CPUs and AMD NAVI GPU are the current pinnacle computing systems of the 21st century. I can use them to run directly, compile and run, emulate or virtualize almost any software that has ever existed. With easy use of any game controller or other input or display device, the only relevant platforms the GNU/Linux 64-bit Intel Computer is incapable of supporting or has issues with include: obscure Windows programs that don't run well in Wine or VM (most work perfectly), Online Windows games with aggressive, expertly-written anti-cheat software (weak anti-cheats can be bypassed), NVIDIA RTX Shader technology that can only be executed by the special hardware in an NVIDIA RTX GPU, and Xbox One games (the only console there is no emulator for. For PS4 games, you will have an AMD CPU not Intel, because the PS4 is completely jailbroken and when you use it as your Linux PC, it will have an AMD CPU, and you may run PS4 games on it also 😹), and the software compiled for a modern *IBM z14 MAINFRAME COMPUTER* , this large computer's CPU is more specialized and powerful for its intended software than zOS emulators on amd64 are. Beyond that, Intel and their friends the US government can spy on you using the Intel Management Engine, no matter what you do. Aside those things there is no platform better, though we shall see what Apple can do to encourage competition with ARM CPUs in the Desktop PC market..
@nickganguly3183
@nickganguly3183 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish Adobe would start supporting Linux again if that happened I would have zero reasons to use mac or windows ever again.
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
Again??? When did Adobe support Linux?
@jorditribo94
@jorditribo94 4 жыл бұрын
It will not happen
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 4 жыл бұрын
Im no pro graphic designer but for moderate publishing SOHO I do very well with GIMP+Inkscape on a daily basis
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
@@alerey4363 - try Photopea too. Worth a look. Totally browser based and runs on anything, even a Chromebook.
4 жыл бұрын
@@markconger8049, they did a FrameMaker beta test program many years ago.
@SimGunther
@SimGunther 4 жыл бұрын
9:26 Editing snafu?
@cyangalaxy
@cyangalaxy 4 жыл бұрын
lolololol
@NickVanHouse
@NickVanHouse 4 жыл бұрын
cam here to say this
@ExcaliburTheOnlyOne
@ExcaliburTheOnlyOne 4 жыл бұрын
i refreshed my page when i got this, then i watched it again and refreshed, 3rd time i realized it was the video and not youtube or my browser...
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 4 жыл бұрын
I thought my youtube is glitching out lol
@TheNameOfJesus
@TheNameOfJesus 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe yes, but I think he was trying to make a silly joke about two OSs running simultaneously. He makes lots of silly jokes, this one didn't work.
@7itese840
@7itese840 4 жыл бұрын
Love the transparency of building your virtual macOS. Usually, I have a hard time finding tutorials not knowing where to start, this pretty much gives lots of insights with each mention of performance tweaks.
@snazzy
@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@3laws292
@3laws292 4 жыл бұрын
@@snazzy Even ir its not a full blown out tutorial, this video leaves a great taste of mouth. I'm happy that you ventured from Pop!OS to Arch-ish. How is the community treating your questions?
@TylersTechNow
@TylersTechNow 4 жыл бұрын
Haha Quin talking about the Arch meme, you love to see it
@yomurita
@yomurita 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you around here 👀
@therealslimaddy
@therealslimaddy 4 жыл бұрын
Hello mate, just dual booted pop os 20.10 after your review... :)
@bluephreakr
@bluephreakr 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody watches NorthernLion...
@CheapBastard1988
@CheapBastard1988 4 жыл бұрын
BTW I use Arch (not).
@yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775
@yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775 4 жыл бұрын
Btw i use Marchjaro
@pjmq
@pjmq 4 жыл бұрын
For your own setup (and likely mine) you should consider going for a 'lite' (headless, stripped whatever you might call it) Arch based distro that is configured to basically act as a kiosk for VM. Removing the memory/resource footprint of the host means you can allocate more resources to the guest and you'll likely cut your overhead in half. A little more user expertise required but for better results all in.
@teletaminent_brb
@teletaminent_brb 10 ай бұрын
how do you do dat doe
@pjmq
@pjmq 10 ай бұрын
@@teletaminent_brb look up Linus Tech Tips video on running MacOS on non Mac hardware from a few years back.
@SimonVega318
@SimonVega318 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly interesting. I would love a full blown tutorial on the entire set up process for this.
@davejoy3605
@davejoy3605 3 жыл бұрын
Want Mac like experience on Linux? There's Elementary O.S!
@bobbond4459
@bobbond4459 3 жыл бұрын
I found it disappointing that he skipped one of the most crucial parts which is the passthrough stuff and he said it's boring. Yes, perhaps he thought it was boring, but for noobs like myself, it's impossible to understand what he was talking about. :-(
@seireiart
@seireiart 4 жыл бұрын
Mutahar : I'm proud of you son.
@llscandgalaxy750
@llscandgalaxy750 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@boobaenthusiast4995
@boobaenthusiast4995 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, he's changing the game
@randomorange6807
@randomorange6807 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, another mutahar enjoyer. Nice to see you
@marciomaiajr
@marciomaiajr 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, just thought of muta's last video about VMs.
@cringemaki
@cringemaki 4 жыл бұрын
Muta released a video about VMs Yesterday, today, this guy. Coincidence?
@lilypadsy
@lilypadsy 4 жыл бұрын
you really shouldnt even be getting a 10-20% performance hit if youve configured it properly. it should be more like
@goeiecool9999
@goeiecool9999 4 жыл бұрын
it's likely cpu pinning. Even when you do pin the cores correctly it can be really tricky to get qemu to report the proper cache layout.
@alp2063
@alp2063 4 жыл бұрын
actually, ryzen perform better on linux than windows or intel like what you suppose to get 20% gains on linux since linux does actually use corectly
@yatharthshah
@yatharthshah 4 жыл бұрын
He breaks down Anthony's language of Gods into one for peasants.
@robkam643400
@robkam643400 4 жыл бұрын
By skipping all the hard parts, so you have to figure it out for yourself. More of a teaser than a howto.
@angelrivera8013
@angelrivera8013 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@helmi5045
@helmi5045 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@shriyakaistha2484
@shriyakaistha2484 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use this with a nvidia gpu?
@bobbond4459
@bobbond4459 3 жыл бұрын
Does Snazzy Labs ever reply any of the comments/questions? What's the point in Subscribing if we do not get any feedback?
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
4:14 “Sosumi” ... now there’s a name with a long Macintosh history ...
@0xC
@0xC 4 жыл бұрын
Butt-Head Astronomer
@mattm7899
@mattm7899 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing iOS development on a macOS KVM on my 3950x for about 6 months now... I’ve really impressed by the performance... I also think we could probably see a big performance increase with Zen 3.
@StarmanDX
@StarmanDX 4 жыл бұрын
What GPU do you use?
@mattm7899
@mattm7899 4 жыл бұрын
@@StarmanDX RX580
@merouanebboy
@merouanebboy Жыл бұрын
2 years later, but does the virtualization support OS updates flawlessly? (Being an over 10years MacOS, and tired of buying macs for thousands of $, looking for life long alternatives 😅)
@drbali
@drbali 4 жыл бұрын
Point 1 3:10 It will work well on a core 2 duo and above. If you investigate foxlet's script, he has listed the processor as a C2D. So anything with Westmere and above will work just fine. Point 2 Import it to Virtual Machine Manager if you are not comfortable with the terminal. Point 3 You can do a passthrough before the install modify the ram and do all sorts of things before the install. Either modify the scripts or rogue stuff through the virtual machine manager in Foxlet's script. Point 4: 2-5% hits common. VMWare and virtualbox but 20%. I haven't seen the KVMmanager eatmore than 5%.
@AnesuC
@AnesuC 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to assume you realised sosumi is a play on " So sue me" directed at Apple haha Edit: As mentioned in the replies from the Beatles dispute situation
@maggiethegamer1271
@maggiethegamer1271 4 жыл бұрын
The origin traces back to the Apple VS The Beatles dispute if you don't already know.
@parityviolation968
@parityviolation968 3 жыл бұрын
apparently it's been removed from the snap store... the link in the description is not only broken. If you search the term sosumi on the website it wont find anything. And google or DDG dont show search results for installing sosumi without snap... Even the github page only shows the run of the mill CLI installation that does not find any package named sosumi... It's been effectively wiped off the face of the w^3 WTF, it seems, I came along a bit too late into the game.
@geogmz8277
@geogmz8277 4 жыл бұрын
Quinn speaking Spanish and talking about linux.. what a great way to start my Sunday.
@danielcs88
@danielcs88 4 жыл бұрын
That was actually Italian.
@geogmz8277
@geogmz8277 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielcs88 no, Argentineans/Uruguayans use hands like that too.. He said "Qué vaina Ché" 😅 makes sense I believe he lived some time in South America before becoming a KZbinr.. As missionary of The Church Of Jesus Christ..
@elkako7583
@elkako7583 4 жыл бұрын
@@geogmz8277 it threw me off too lmao
@CesarTreetops
@CesarTreetops 4 жыл бұрын
“Que vaina Ché” jajajaja Quinn es el major
@anthonysmithson1903
@anthonysmithson1903 4 жыл бұрын
“Kde Plasma seems to be the most user friendly” My how the times have changed
@fredrik2008
@fredrik2008 4 жыл бұрын
Well its not bad if you dont touch any settings, the settings is a minefield. Pretty mutch all other desktop environments are easier.
@battlebuddy4517
@battlebuddy4517 4 жыл бұрын
I dont find any desktop environments for linux friendly tbh
@RamkrishanYT
@RamkrishanYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@fredrik2008 with KDE the approach is usually that you follow a tutorial on youtube and just copy step by step and it starts looking great
@fredrik2008
@fredrik2008 4 жыл бұрын
@@battlebuddy4517 well then you havent tried deepin or gnome.
@Mike09017
@Mike09017 4 жыл бұрын
I have xfce. Is it good?
@didierchaplain5196
@didierchaplain5196 4 жыл бұрын
your tutorial is awesome, instead of having a separate Mac now I build a monster running all the OS. Thanks
@nullderef
@nullderef 4 жыл бұрын
3:20 Oh snazzy! Virtualization on Intel is actually called VT-x! VT-d is a feature that allows for passthrough of pci and pci-e devices via iommu, also usefull for virtualization, but only if you want to passthough a pysical gpu instead of e.g. virtio or qxl for fully virtualized graphics (i.e. no second power succing gpu in your system, although performs worse then real one).
@3rdna
@3rdna 4 жыл бұрын
For those wondering about GPU passthrough, SOG here on youtube did a tutorial on how to get it up and running.
@sasakanjuh7660
@sasakanjuh7660 4 жыл бұрын
Wooow, didn't expect any Linux related content on this channel.. I'd like to see it more in the future!! :)
@zdanee
@zdanee 4 жыл бұрын
1:00 Wait-wait-wait... did you just say I can turn my iPad Pro into a tennis racket?! That's a hidden feature! You should make a video about that!
@makinbacon21
@makinbacon21 4 жыл бұрын
Audio desync around 9:30 oof
@obeardedonehd7806
@obeardedonehd7806 4 жыл бұрын
Because it's a different video haha
@geogmz8277
@geogmz8277 4 жыл бұрын
@@obeardedonehd7806 exactly voice over a different video
@xerzy
@xerzy 4 жыл бұрын
Might be a clip from a different take that was supposed to be cut off
@DigitalYojimbo
@DigitalYojimbo 4 жыл бұрын
It's a video in a video, don't cha know meta bro ?
@furycd001
@furycd001 3 жыл бұрын
Here's something that wasn't mentioned within the video. The hard drive is out of the box set with a specific amount of space (can't remember how much), but you can easily give it more space by doing the following. Close the sosumi window as soon as it opens without playing around with anything. Open up a terminal & cd into the sosumi folder containg the VM image "cd ~/snap/sosumi/common/". Finally resize the image using the following command "qemu.img resize macos.qcow2 +44G". Just change 44G to whatever size you wish. When done open up sosumi again & proceed with everything as normal. This only works if you do it first things. if you've already installed or played around with the vm it'l not work so make sure to do it first if you want more hard drive space....
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
I've started with Xubuntu and now on this new laptop I'm on MX Linux (Debian base) But Linux has been having too many problems with Hardware, mainly temperatures 10 to 15 degrees Celsius higher than on Windows 10. Do you know if MacOS (Hackintosh) allows me to run from USB like Linux does? (avoid writes on SSD as much as possible)
@imyasharya
@imyasharya 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Linux gets more application support so that I can make it my daily driver. Currently, I'm learning GIMP so as to do my Photoshop work there. I don't think GIMP can fully replace it but I'll see. If you guys have any suggestions to what apps available as an alternative to Photoshop in Ubuntu, I'll be happy to know that.
@LowBudgetStreaming
@LowBudgetStreaming 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute banger of a video! In a sea of Notepad tutorials, MovieMaker transitions and cringy EDM music, yours are what I would describe as the highest standard of instructional video. Heh, the connoisseur's choice in tutorials. You're literally putting others to shame. Well done, Quinn! You're a treasure!
@NordicFrog
@NordicFrog 4 жыл бұрын
Manjaro linux? Wise choice sir.
@ashishdeharia9137
@ashishdeharia9137 4 жыл бұрын
It will break, eventually. And if they are not apt with Linux they can't fix it.
@ben65797
@ben65797 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashishdeharia9137 That's only if you're a power user, in my experience the only time my Manjaro Gnome 20.04 system has only broken when I try to do something that pretty much only a hardcore developer would do. But I don't know how you have used Linux so maybe it does break for you.
@drbali
@drbali 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience, the Debian KVM is slightly more stable than manjaro but for everything else Manjaro is better
@juaneduardovitoria
@juaneduardovitoria 4 жыл бұрын
@ateb3 I'm more pacman with Linux
@juaneduardovitoria
@juaneduardovitoria 4 жыл бұрын
@ateb3 I use btwOS
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
This is another classic Snazzy video. Dude, the level of your geekiness is unparalleled. Glad I subbed a long time ago. Now to go and get some nothing done. 😉
@alolanstarboy
@alolanstarboy 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Quinn's been watching too many videos from SomeOrdinaryGamers. Muta's obsession with VMs has rubbed off on him 👀
@RxTitanAH
@RxTitanAH 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, its me Mutahar
@alolanstarboy
@alolanstarboy 4 жыл бұрын
@@RxTitanAH everyone gangsta till he says his opening line in hindi
@Verpal
@Verpal 4 жыл бұрын
@@alolanstarboy One day he will have entire video in Hindi and we will all pretend we understood what is he saying in English.
@perpetualcollapse
@perpetualcollapse 4 жыл бұрын
*Mutahar laughing intensifies*
@alolanstarboy
@alolanstarboy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Verpal unless you're Indian like me and actually understand him 👀
@msthalamus2172
@msthalamus2172 4 жыл бұрын
Calling it "sosumi" sold me on that virtualization project on its own. Triple entendre FTW! :D
@angelfabia
@angelfabia 4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to do this yesterday and you upload a tutorial today. HMMM Interest at 100% again!
@OiZoProduct
@OiZoProduct 2 жыл бұрын
3:22 No, you will find it listed as VT-x or Intel Virtualization not as VT-d this feature does exist and allows for pci-e passthrough so your hypervisor (the software that allows you to run a virtual machine) can address real hardware from a virtual machine. For instance a real graphics card.
@Turtle_Shell
@Turtle_Shell 4 жыл бұрын
0:54 “You’ll find yourself googling tutorials on how to turn your iPad Pro into a tennis racket.” Listen, after Mr. Mobile turned his LG Wing into a ping pong paddle, I just had to know how I could make my iPad into a tennis racket.
@CheapBastard1988
@CheapBastard1988 4 жыл бұрын
My personal iPad experience makes me want to turn it into a frisbee. Though to be fair in only half of the cases it's the iPad's fault being not having enough RAM and not fast enough storage. The other half being the homebrew apps from my employer, Boeing and the security authentication related to them.
@benzenegaming3199
@benzenegaming3199 4 жыл бұрын
You can use VirtManager so you can configure a QEMU/KVM easier
@SebastianHaban
@SebastianHaban 4 жыл бұрын
He's an Arch Linux Chad. GUIs are for the weak XD
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
Could the KVM macOS script have something to do with why VirtManager wasn’t used here?
@fullfunk
@fullfunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianHaban cli gang
@PLANTROON
@PLANTROON 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using this since I built my rig for things that can only be done on macOS (and some Safari testing). It is awesome. Sadly, I have GTX 1080 Ti so I am stuck on High Sierra. And honestly, it is better than a Hackintosh, simply because of the outstanding features Linux sports on the disk management side (you can use ZFS with compression, encryption, snapshots for example, plus it has great caching capabilities if you have lots of RAM). Even if you needed to run macOS full-time, you can set it up in Linux so that it starts the VM on your display output by default. There is very little difference from a Hackintosh at that point and you get it on a standardized set of hardware (Qemu and all it provides)
@beiju-
@beiju- 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice, that you switched to Manjaro. Due to this video, I found you again after not watching your videos for years.
@CruzGD
@CruzGD 4 жыл бұрын
“The apple pippin, the best product ever made” LMFAO
@chriskaprys
@chriskaprys 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I caught that, too. Just watched the LTT video showcasing the Pippin today. Also: "You'll find yourself Googling tutorials on how to turn the iPad Pro into a tennis racket." Nice.
@moe4b
@moe4b 4 жыл бұрын
3:42 a wild Mutahar appears
@Adamlol642
@Adamlol642 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah
@MichaelSidneyTimpson
@MichaelSidneyTimpson 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, on my Catalina Mac, I actually sometimes run Mojave in Fusion so I can use an occassional 32-bit app.
@flammablewater1755
@flammablewater1755 4 жыл бұрын
All of my Mac OS game stopped working when I upgraded to Catalina, so I'm in the same boat.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 4 жыл бұрын
For me, FreeBSD, Linux and Windows run at about 95% of native performance on Fusion. MacOS runs at about 2% of native performance 😢.
@MichaelSidneyTimpson
@MichaelSidneyTimpson 4 жыл бұрын
@@katrinabryce are you sure you have the cores and ram set up correctly? I don't have that problem.
@2012knp
@2012knp 4 жыл бұрын
@@flammablewater1755 you can still downgrade
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
Ah... yeah... I forgot about that problem... MacOS dropped support for 32-bit, didn't it? So that means I would not be able to play my old retro games. Shame... Well, but 32-bit applications would still work inside of Wine, correct? Can anyone confirm? I can't live without my Simcity 3000 LOL
@majoraslayer64
@majoraslayer64 Жыл бұрын
Snazzy: "It works best in Arch Linux" Me, In Ubuntu/Debian: "Once again my lack of a 7-year college degree and doctorate has failed to make my life lucrative."
@Clarity-808
@Clarity-808 3 жыл бұрын
10-20% sounds like a big performance hit. Aren't there VM solutions that have a close-to-zero performance hit, like Proxmox?
@nomorenoless3273
@nomorenoless3273 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that mean if you use Proxmox you get a better performance since is closer to zero (less input lag)? Also do you know the motherboard and rams at 1:02 looks like he has 8 rams? I've been looking for a motherboard with 8 slots for an intel but couldn't find one... do you think for the 12gen of intel they would make them?
@Clarity-808
@Clarity-808 3 жыл бұрын
​@@nomorenoless3273 yeah that's what I mean. I think Proxmox performs way better than the example in this video, but that's what I'm asking. As for RAM, no I have 64GB on 4 sticks.
@nomorenoless3273
@nomorenoless3273 3 жыл бұрын
@@Clarity-808 Good to know about that one, if in the future I'd like to have macOS, actually I wanted to know the motherboard he has at 1:02 cause I see that it can handle 8x slots of ram. As for the ram those are Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro.
@Thiago-qt3tw
@Thiago-qt3tw 4 жыл бұрын
Great JLC Reverso! 1 - I noticed that recently, so many Tech KZbinrs became mechanical watches collectors. Did you notice that trend? 2 - Please make a SOTC 2020 (no tech-related, but very cool nevertheless).
@geigerbuzz816
@geigerbuzz816 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, when are we getting the DIY turn your iPad pro into a tennis racket tutorial?
@themadhavi
@themadhavi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this vid, waiting to see this type of stuff more from you man
@Chainer
@Chainer 4 жыл бұрын
10:44 HD Music
@bobbond4459
@bobbond4459 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a separate video to explain how to completed the proper GPU passthroughs? For a newbee like me, it is most essential.
@5izzy557
@5izzy557 4 жыл бұрын
I thought on AMD virtualization is labelled as SVM in the bios Edit - It is on mine.
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 4 жыл бұрын
The basic virtualization technology is know as AMD-V but, yes, it's often (though not necessarily always) referred to as SVM (secure virtual machine) in the BIOS and by default it is usually disabled. To pass though PCIe-connected hardware for use by the VM you also need another technology, known as AMD-Vi, and generically as IOMMU, to be enabled. The default BIOS setting for IOMMU is often "Auto", which I suppose means that it's enabled, though I prefer to set it explicitly to "Enabled".
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mine is Gigabyte also called SVM. Thanks for that info
@desther7975
@desther7975 4 жыл бұрын
Something else Mac-related that you can do with QEMU is actually emulate a New World Power Mac and run Mac OS 9 and at least certain versions of Mac OS X, such as Tiger and Leopard. However, I don't believe it offers video acceleration, and audio may still require a special build from E-Maculation.
@maggiethegamer1271
@maggiethegamer1271 4 жыл бұрын
How's the performance? I've been trying this today but nothing.
@josyfkristopher4320
@josyfkristopher4320 4 жыл бұрын
Quinn: "Here's how to run MacOS under Linux" Me: "Why? Everything I do for free in Linux costs money in MacOS!" Ten years ago the MacOS version of an app was highly polished and perfected whilst the Linux version was rather rough around the edges - now its quite the other way around but now you're expect to hand over $25 for what is a free app on other Linux or even Windows.
@TheyRiseBand
@TheyRiseBand 4 жыл бұрын
@Marc T It's because the Mac has gotten worse.
@seguefischlin
@seguefischlin 11 ай бұрын
...because I have accumulated over 10K dollars worth of software on the Mac that meets my needs, but am using it on a computer with a small screen that needs to be replaced due to failing components and Apple doesn't make 17" screens anymore for portables and doesn't make repairable upgradable computers anymore. Even a battery replacement for a Mac costs over $300. That's stupid.
@morsikpl
@morsikpl 4 жыл бұрын
3:21 sorry, you've got that wrong. VT-d is not virtualization extension. It's direct IO using IOMMU. This is useful for passthrough PCI-Express devices like graphics card (which may be useful in this scenario to pass some real AMD card to macOS). Virtualization extension is VT-x. VT-d is just additional feature to be used along with VT-x, but it doesn't necessary needs to be enabled nor even exists.
@TheNomad1990
@TheNomad1990 4 жыл бұрын
Love the chaturbate logo @ 10:44 that says HD Music below it lmao
@primistandem6781
@primistandem6781 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao noticed it too
@questionablecommands9423
@questionablecommands9423 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about timely. I think this gave me the last piece of the puzzle I needed to migrate my work mac to a VM.
@aydngulgun8936
@aydngulgun8936 4 жыл бұрын
"if you didn't send it to somebody you don't like" That is the confidence I would like to see more of, here take this 100 internet point.
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 4 жыл бұрын
A comma after "didn't" would really help to make it more understandable, otherwise it can all be one clause.
@aydngulgun8936
@aydngulgun8936 4 жыл бұрын
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 know that i reed it agein you are right. thank you really much.
@danilopanzano
@danilopanzano 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how arch vanilla (or artix) with no actual full DE (only wayland maybe) + all the packages compiled with -march=native and -mtune=native (kernel included) would perform ..... that 10% overhead could easily shrink to
@Davidian1024
@Davidian1024 4 жыл бұрын
Found this in an article explaining how to setup sosumi: "It's worth noting from the start that Apple doesn't allow installing macOS on non-Apple hardware, so to use this legally you must have Linux installed on Apple hardware." I guess that's where it gets it's name from.
@w1z4rd9
@w1z4rd9 4 жыл бұрын
This needs to get more attention.
@CallMeChato
@CallMeChato 4 жыл бұрын
Great as always. Did you check out Proxintosh virtualization?
@developerpranav
@developerpranav 4 жыл бұрын
Meh should've just watched Linus' video before doing this. And also should've configured cpu allocation before Mac OS installation. That's the clean way I follow
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
Can you share which Linus video you refer to? I’m in a pinch with a dead Macbook Pro and need to get a temp solution together. Thanks.
@andylib
@andylib 4 жыл бұрын
I‘m also interested 👋🏻
@meulisesulisesulises
@meulisesulisesulises 4 жыл бұрын
Plz link that shit down.
@developerpranav
@developerpranav 4 жыл бұрын
thats the one. Seems to work on almost every laptop and PC that i have tried. But will work great with CPUs after 2014
@alikuddah
@alikuddah 4 жыл бұрын
@@markconger8049 they use Opencore. check them out.
@StarmanDX
@StarmanDX 4 жыл бұрын
What GPU do you need? I only have an RTX and I know those don't work with OSX, but does QEMU emulate a different GPU to bypass this?
@WillisZzz
@WillisZzz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Quinn, I found it right when I'm once again seriously looking into taking my music production into the Linux world. I've probably watching this video about 8 times already. Question: do you (or anyone else) have any recommendations for a Linux distro specifically for music production? How would Manjaro do with cutting down on latency, and general compatibility with audio interfaces (FireWire or USB)?
@stevearkwright
@stevearkwright 3 жыл бұрын
I think Canonical have a separate, specific, audio-tuned distro called *Ubuntu Studio*, which is customised for audio production. Whilst I don’t know what they’ve done under the bonnet, it’s logical that they’ve stripped out all the non-essential chaff and concentrated on enhancing audio interface acceleration and worked on cutting out system and software latency as much as possible, given that it’s designed for running DAW’s, racks, patch bays and the like. I hope this helps, Will.
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
6 years linux user here. Linux has some BAD (really bad) issues with the way Memory Management was built on it (it's one of the core elements of the system that cannot be tweaked) To give one practical example: one of these days I was browsing the web, many tabs open, system ran into low memory, after some time I have noticed Pulseaudio (the entire Audio subsystem) was put into Disk Swap (pagefile)
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
So yeah... if an operational system that claims to be "the solid foundation on which 98% of the internet is hosted on" and another big buzz words claims that they love to brag about, if a system that claims that is okay with the decision to put your Sound system into disk pagefile, I'm sorry, that means the thing is flawed at the very core foundations of it
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that everything on Linux takes extra steps of manual labor to accomplish. Another problem with Linux currently is hardware support, for laptops for example Linux will run 10 to 15 C degrees hotter than Windows 10, less battery life (because the CPU is never allowed to rest on idle) Despite what is preached out there, Linux is terrible for AMD consumers, for Intel+Nvidia it works
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
Wanna make a quick test and see how linux acts on situations of memory stress? Boot up any distro ISO and load up an audio with more than 1 hour duration on any audio editor/DAW The audio will be decompressed to WAV format into RAM, any successive edits you make on it will use more RAM until you ran out and entire system freezes (lose all progress, restart from zero)
@TheRealLink
@TheRealLink 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job on that! Love the little side "undesirables" bit haha. While I've not dabbled with Linux but have tried a Hackintosh, this seems interesting to try.
@FakesFromStateFarm
@FakesFromStateFarm 4 жыл бұрын
Mac: Runs MacOS PC: Everything Else.... plus MacOS
@SebastianHaban
@SebastianHaban 4 жыл бұрын
You know you can run Windows or Linux on a Mac as well, right?
@FakesFromStateFarm
@FakesFromStateFarm 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianHaban If someone wanted to run Windows or Linux it would be a better price to make or buy a comparable Desktop. Since you can run MacOS very competently on a KVM what is the point of Mac other than getting a bitten apple?
@mm-hl7gh
@mm-hl7gh 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianHaban yes you can, but you wont get 4 times the performance for your money.
@IlBiggo
@IlBiggo 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianHaban LOL. PC user bragging about the number of OSes he can run XD _The denial is strong_
@peterjansen4826
@peterjansen4826 4 жыл бұрын
"It works best on Arch". Is anyone surprised by that? :D I was the guy who said: "Arch is easy to install if you know a few little things", it is true, it really is not difficult. A cool project, Snazzy Labs.
@kenba8176
@kenba8176 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine downgrading from Manjaro to Macos
@MaxCE
@MaxCE 3 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt say dow grading more like forced to use macos to develop apps but youre too cheap to buy a mac
@RamaKrishnan-yc8zm
@RamaKrishnan-yc8zm 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a separate boring part of how to single Gpu passthrough in vm. Also add pci pass through
@arthurpizza
@arthurpizza 4 жыл бұрын
This is the only way you should use Mac OS or Windows.
@PatrikKron
@PatrikKron 4 жыл бұрын
Some games any-cheat detect that you run in a VM. That’s the only thing that might hold me from doing this when I build my next computer. I’ll probably do like this anyway and have windows dual boot for those few games, if I can be bothered.
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 4 жыл бұрын
@@PatrikKron theres configs that help with that,the only games unworkable are valorant.
@dustojnikhummer
@dustojnikhummer 4 жыл бұрын
@@ananon5771 and Battleye
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustojnikhummer battle eye can be worked around
@benp439
@benp439 4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, there are many applications which still do not have equally capable alternatives. While most applications are fine, I shouldn't have to start a VM to run Photoshop. And no, GIMP just isn't there yet. This is coming from someone who daily drove Linux for 6 years , and actively maintains Linux servers. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, but some of the apps I use require Windows.
@fluffycritter
@fluffycritter 4 жыл бұрын
The main thing I wonder about with this setup is how well pro audio interfaces work through it, particularly with latency and how well the capabilities pass through. Focusrite Scarlett in particular.
@fullfunk
@fullfunk 4 жыл бұрын
its easier to connect a external audio than a onboard from the mb
@fluffycritter
@fluffycritter 4 жыл бұрын
@@fullfunk That makes sense, but I'd still wonder about latency and capabilities, specifically in the context of trying to use Logic.
@mattheModest
@mattheModest 4 жыл бұрын
10:43 Nice Chaturbate icon in your favorites there, mate.
@snazzy
@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын
From a separate comment: Odd. It was a site I used to (erm, semi-illegally) acquire DSD music download rips from Blu-ray audio disks when I couldn't find them legally. Seems the URL is dead and now redirects somewhere different every time you click the link. Safari must have auto-snagged the favicon from one of the times it redirected to somewhere sus. I've clicked it 4 times in the last 5 minutes and it went to a Spotify playlist, CNN, a "buy this domain" page, and another page that tried to have Safari download something. Would not recommend visiting for obvious reasons but for those curious: hdmusic.biz/
@S-early-user
@S-early-user 4 жыл бұрын
@@snazzy We've all heard that one before.
@KrunchyTheClown78
@KrunchyTheClown78 3 жыл бұрын
@@S-early-user lol
@darkseraphim42
@darkseraphim42 4 жыл бұрын
On Gigabyte Motherboards the Virtualization setting for AMD CPUs is called SVM (for anyone having trouble figuring it out)
@SinghalRishi27
@SinghalRishi27 4 жыл бұрын
11:00 Send it to somebody you don't like🤣🤣🤣
@burcakb1
@burcakb1 4 жыл бұрын
Manjaro team rocks. They've really hit the magic spot between giving users all the configurability of linux a la Arch and the user experience somebody moving to Linux from Windows would expect. Also, I've found ManjaroARM to be the best running distro on Raspberry Pi 4 (better than their own OS or the ubuntu that's still nowhere near Manjaro, after a year of trying).
@katomiccomics202
@katomiccomics202 4 жыл бұрын
I can hear Mutahar screaming in the distance.
@andreineagu.online
@andreineagu.online 4 жыл бұрын
Hehe! That was a great video. So the Hackintosh fever isn't gone. Great to see this!
@MrYoklmn
@MrYoklmn 4 жыл бұрын
Nice “HD Music” browser icon;)
@AlexProgOfficial
@AlexProgOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha
@Gucek001
@Gucek001 4 жыл бұрын
I had the simplest and most successful experience recently with "macOS-Simple-KVM". I run it on WSL in Win10 with VirtualBox. after some basic configuration - it works like a charm.
@mrcrackerist
@mrcrackerist 4 жыл бұрын
Next up this AMD 3990x runs Windows, Linux and MacOS at the same time while being faster then the mac pro :P
@coatlessali
@coatlessali 3 жыл бұрын
bonus points if you can get a BSD in there
@MikeFuryTech
@MikeFuryTech 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is with ARM coming soon, we won't be able to do this anymore in the near future.
@2012knp
@2012knp 4 жыл бұрын
ARM is easily emulated on x86. It might take a while for devs to figure out some proprietary stuff, but it’s far from impossible
@melgibson6331
@melgibson6331 4 жыл бұрын
With QEMU you can already emulate just about any mainstream processor ever used for any popular OS's...just go to a repository and download it.
@ashesofasker
@ashesofasker 4 жыл бұрын
Great introduction - as always! I've followed your steps and the great documentation on the Passthrough Post. I've allocated 8 GB of ram and 4 cores to the VM but still fells to un-responsive / laggy to being a real alternative to a real mac. Is it simply a question of adding enough ressources or any other tips for performance enhancements? Maybe there is a way to increase the vram for the integrated graphics I'm currently running on? (coffee lake, UHD 630 graphics).
@berkesinanyetkin5722
@berkesinanyetkin5722 Жыл бұрын
"Your computer may also have better thermals than a real mac" lol im dying
@N0STIC0
@N0STIC0 4 жыл бұрын
if I'm never going to do this builds, why do I love so much watching these kind of videos? :v
@synovium
@synovium 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is great if you are the ultimate Mac and Linux wizard. Thinking about building a Hackintosh, but after seeing this, I may end up buying the iMac 24.
@jadeng1147
@jadeng1147 4 жыл бұрын
9:26 nice editing
@youruleyourlife
@youruleyourlife 3 жыл бұрын
nice! Can you make a video about Proxmox VE 7 + BigSur setup ?
@dreamlockk7527
@dreamlockk7527 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Linux user and I use kde but I think that gnome's semplicity makes that DE the most user-friendly (that's my opinion btw)
@mihirmutalikdesai
@mihirmutalikdesai 4 жыл бұрын
If by simple, you mean reductionist. It's always hiding something in some menu or the other. I personally feel that gnome is beautiful, but impractical.
@GeorgePerakis
@GeorgePerakis 4 жыл бұрын
Not if you're used to Windows. Plus GNOME is U G L Y. It ain't got no alibi.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of these DEs, macOS and Windows is at this point on a level of quality where it comes down to user preference. You really can't generalize it anymore.
@benp439
@benp439 4 жыл бұрын
Every DE is pretty good at this point. Just pick the one with the features you like.
@postnick
@postnick 4 жыл бұрын
@@mihirmutalikdesai Thank you! I can't stand GNOME on a laptop. It's better for me in a desktop but for some reason on a laptop I hate it.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
6:44 My urge to keep things tidy notices that you have a shell script ending with a potentially-long-executing command. Which means the shell does nothing from this point but wait for that command to finish and then exit. So you can save a process slot by putting “exec” on the front of that last command. That way the shell replaces itself with the command, and is no longer hanging around just waiting for the command to finish.
@mimireich
@mimireich 4 жыл бұрын
Suspicious MKBHD promotion at 4:52
@PixelVogue
@PixelVogue 4 жыл бұрын
yeah dont watch his crap channel!
@Lilbigdick
@Lilbigdick 4 жыл бұрын
@@PixelVogue what the hell do you mean MKBHD is one of the best tech reviewer heck he even made a video with snazzy lab
@PixelVogue
@PixelVogue 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lilbigdick each to their own, i find Snazzys video's are my cup of tea
@Lilbigdick
@Lilbigdick 4 жыл бұрын
@@PixelVogue oh ok
@mnalneagl7423
@mnalneagl7423 Жыл бұрын
What HW are you using? Motherboard? GPU? Thanks! Best! Great Videos!
@RamkrishanYT
@RamkrishanYT 4 жыл бұрын
hwwwelo guis and gurls Me mudahar and today we're installing a VM on arch linux
@musclesmouse
@musclesmouse 4 жыл бұрын
I installed Manjaro and loved it so much I just use that ATM. I will eventually get to the VMs.
@priesermax
@priesermax 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, finally someone appreciating Manjaro And you can install windows that way, not having to install that junk natively For example if you are only playing games on it
@redrush-hp9li
@redrush-hp9li 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
Manjaro is interesting, my first Arch experience (USB Live Session) Do you know if there is any GUI application (or at least an automated script in terminal that automate most steps) tool to create Custom ISO's of Manjaro? I want to build a Manjaro ISO that has all my custom applications from boot (Wine, desktop settings, mouse settings, etc) Any tools similar to MX-Snapshot, Timeshift or Remastersys?
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on MX right now... MX-Snapshot is particularly great because it creates a "copy" (snapshot) of your entire running system into an ISO on disk, with no memory overhead, you can even have chromium open and keep using the machine and the tool won't deplete all your free RAM like most Linux apps unfortunately do
@duckymomo7907
@duckymomo7907 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do an updated nuc hackintosh build with working wifi and bluetooth?
@parityviolation968
@parityviolation968 3 жыл бұрын
4:14 apparently sosumi has been removed from the snap store... Not only is the link in the description broken. If you search the term sosumi on the website it wont find anything. And google or DDG dont show any search results for installing sosumi without snap... Even the github page only shows the run of the mill CLI installation that does not find any package named sosumi... It's been effectively wiped off the face of the w^3 WTF, it seems, I came along a bit too late into the game.
@Crux161
@Crux161 4 жыл бұрын
_“KDE Plasma,”_ OMG 😱 I’m agreeing with snazzy... *curse you 2020!!*
@KATFYR
@KATFYR 4 жыл бұрын
Both this video and the one on LTT failed to mention that the GPU passthrough will not work with an unsupported NVIDIA card (at least not fully). For instance, here you can see a 20 Series card dangling out the case which, I assume, is being used as a passthrough card, but you can also clearly see that the macOS VM has no GPU hardware acceleration (no transparencies system-wide). This is a pretty jarring omission, since someone with no Hackintosh experience won't be aware of this caveat.
@jakdan6598
@jakdan6598 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I need to switch to linux
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
Come on in. Water’s warm.
@jorditribo94
@jorditribo94 4 жыл бұрын
Go with Linux Mint Cinnamon, or if you like the risks with Manjaro Gnome.
@williaamlarsson
@williaamlarsson 4 жыл бұрын
I switched back in June. It's been really nice so far. I only use Windows for gaming now, and will probably stop using it all together if game support continues to grow for Linux.
@rivciks5045
@rivciks5045 Жыл бұрын
How can You enable USB passthrough? I haven't found any tutorials about that whatsoever.
@SlafJabuka
@SlafJabuka 4 жыл бұрын
This is soooo cool. I may want to try this on my 2012 Mac Pro, which can't run Catalina (because Apple ⚡⛈️☄️🔥🌊). So, I install Linux, then run Catalina (and later Big Sur) as a VM. Sweet.
@benderbi
@benderbi 4 жыл бұрын
As always giving us great and unique content 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@impendio
@impendio 4 жыл бұрын
_”Qué vaina, che!”_ Quinn, are you ok? *Aquí no hablamos esas lenguas prohibidas...*
@geogmz8277
@geogmz8277 4 жыл бұрын
Muchos no saben que el hablá Español. 😅
@DevinShoemaker
@DevinShoemaker 4 жыл бұрын
Quinn messes with Arch? Mad respect. This guy is the real deal.
@ansonx10
@ansonx10 4 жыл бұрын
Arch ftw, but IMO it's well past time for Clover to be laid to rest. OpenCore is here and works great. It's more logical to set up, and breaks far less often on OS updates. Also, I find it's easy enough to use virt-manager to manage your VMs, and it's still hackintosh compatible. Don't get me wrong, I've used QEMU a lot using nothing more than the command line scripts, and it's not a _bad_ way to do it, but it can be tedious when you frequently need to change stuff like disks. Also, bare metal Hackintoshing is arguably easier in a lot of cases. It's faster because you don't have any overhead, but you're also missing out on all the benefits that overhead brings. Depends if you'll take advantage of having a Linux hypervisor.
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