I Made A Tier List Of The Jiu Jitsu YouTubers

A tier list of who you should watch.
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Jedi: ‪@jedidoesjiujitsu3177‬
Chewjitsu: ‪@Chewjitsu‬
Jon Thomas: ‪@JonThomasBJJ‬
BJJ Fanatics: ‪@BJJ.Fanatics‬
Jordan: ‪@JordanTeachesJiujitsu‬
Wiltse Brothers: ‪@WiltseBrothers‬
Roy Dean: ‪@roydean‬
Josh: ‪@JoshRichBJJ‬
Lachlan: ‪@AbsoluteMMAStKilda‬
Brian: ‪@bzglick‬
Keenan: ‪@fritzdagger‬
Eli Knight: ‪@KnightJiuJitsu‬
Tristar: ‪@CoachZahabi‬
Dom: ‪@DubiousDom‬
Teach Me Grappling: ‪@TeachMeGrappling‬
William: ‪@WilliamTackettBJJ‬
B Team: ‪@BTeamJiuJitsu‬
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[@TylerSpangler]

Happy thanksgiving to all! Looks like I’ll need to make a version 2.

[@ursinhobjj]

If you make a version 2 I’d love to know what you think about my channels content!

[@benjobopper5447]

i was pretty shocked that Brandon McCaghren wasn’t on this list. I think his content is S tier or A tier especially with the availability of the PGF recently

[@SticksandStonesBJJ]

We are one of those up-and-coming channels with original content like the Wheel of Submissions and the One Chip Jiu Jitsu Challenge that you should check out.

[@theepete4851]

Kama Jiu jitsu

[@ByronC900]

Tyler, you play Dead by Daylight too? :D

[@JordanTeachesJiujitsu]

I appreciate the A! It's funny, I actually thought about making a tier list on this too but didn't want to piss anyone off lol. You did a great job breaking it down and being very respectful. Great work!

[@TylerSpangler]

I’d love to hear your version of it! Thanks for the share amigo.

[@vyndaio]

You're easily S-tier, Jordan.

[@slayerbot1394]

Id swap Jordan teaches with bteam, but thats me.

[@JordanTeachesJiujitsu]

@@vyndaio very kind of you. Thank you!

[@chanimal24]

@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Absolutely should be S tier. Miles above any other channel. Hoping to visit your gym soon!

[@Blackbeltcop]

“Less Impressed More Involved” should be Class A!! They have amazing content🤙🏽

[@bigmanolly2889]

Yeah should deffo but also kinda like him being a secret

[@Flbari]

That channel is great to learn stuff

[@thos1618]

@@bigmanolly2889 Same. His channel is my secret weapon.

[@cecole]

Agreed. I just found Less Impressive More Involved about a month ago, and it’s amazing!

[@thelifeofpieman]

Massive oversight with that one

[@cft406]

How could you forget Brandon Mccaghren 💔 he’s easily an S tier for me. Awesome camera personality and production, very educational with awesome teaching, but also does full rolls, short clips, and breakdowns. He’s also a commentator for lots of events.

[@WhtMike2006]

he put Brandon at B tier which seems super low to me. Easy S tier

[@JonathanHebert]

And his PGF content is good.

[@RandyLeftHandy]

He's a geek hell of a coach, too. I'm lucky to live in his area.

[@ivovicentim]

S tier just for the 1 minute tips! The guy is THE GUY to watch.

[@MrStrongBro]

Who else does a royal rumble Jiu Jitsu match? Brandon is the man. 😂

[@TeachMeGrappling]

Thank you Tyler Spangler for the ranking! That was really cool. Thanks to everyone that has supported me… this is very motivating!! 🙏🙌🤙

[@philipwheeler4325]

Coach Brian, for what it's worth the roll you narrated a couple months back was straight fire. Also, like Tyler says the way you mix in wrestling with the BJJ is a big differentiator (and why learning from you way back when was so great for me).

[@ThePimpedOutPlatypus]

I go to Teach Me Grappling for Takedown/Defense and it's really upped my game. I am using the Dagestani Arm Drag all the time now, and occasionally the arm throw/Ippon Seo Nage

[@fubar5554]

Teach me grappling definitely should be A in my opinion! Great instructional. I think the production value is good enough. B-Team has cool videos I enjoy watching, but I dont learn a lot from it personally. Just my opinion. Kinda confused by this list but beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

[@alondusk33]

Teach Me Grappling is an A plus channel for content. Who cares if you don’t have fancy editing lmfao. I’m watching to learn not for entertainment

[@atdyeam1605]

Teach me grappling is A tier in my book. Helping me so much with my wresting! Keep it up.

[@blankblank103]

TeachMeGrappling put at C is absolutely crazy Coach Brian is an amazing teacher and I have gotten more from their channel than any other They frequently upload too They have really good camera angles to really help understand techniques and show in detail where things might go wrong and how to fix them They may have lower production quality (but then again I'm not watching BJJ videos for entertainment) but they have better teaching quality than most, if not all the other bjj channels out there

[@TeachMeGrappling]

🤙

[@fubar5554]

I agree with this dude

[@alondusk33]

Couldn’t agree more. Coach Brian is crazy knowledgeable and goes into detail like no one else I’ve found

[@Slamminbassplayer]

TMG is pure gold in my opinion. I’ve gleaned more USEFUL gems and hacks from Coach Brian than any other sans perhaps vintage Chewy. These rankings do a great job of stirring the pot to get comments though!

[@SlightyStuupid]

Facts his channel is really the only channel where I learn techniques. My sit out escape, getting to the d'arce from a front headlock, . It's also the only channel that kind of combines wrestling and jiu jitsu together. Which is the style I want my game to be like. These other channels seem to just be about themselves more than the learning process.

[@jakehargis6619]

Chewy is absolutely an A in my book. Although he doesn't make technique video's that often anymore, that's predominantly how his channel started. So, if you search for a technique, there's a good chance he's covered it. Also, What about Kesting?!?!? He's great!

[@gabeclark8050]

It depends on the viewer too. I like the "philosophical" type videos Chewie puts out more than anything else and he's therefor at an S tripe-plus tier for me.

[@jakehargis6619]

@@gabeclark8050 agreed, his channel is my favorite in the community.

[@Flbari]

Kesting became a vaccine marketing channel

[@nicolaslaquier]

Chewy is awesome. But I think that Tyler has a point that his channel is mostly helpful to beginners. He mostly answers questions, which leads him to giving lost souls the same answers over and over again on how to deal with Ben or something like that.

[@GMunoz-oj5zb]

@@Flbari WHat's wrong with that?

[@stevencunden7977]

In terms of quality of teaching, Jon Thomas is easily S tier for me. His conceptual videos are really great

[@TylerSpangler]

And he has really slick BJJ

[@DexterTheDuck]

Jon Thomas is a hidden gem IMO

[@MrSaurus]

Same with TeachMeGrappling. Both JonThomas and Brian Peterson have had the most influence in my BJJ game.

[@EstiloInAction]

100% especially if you're advanced and digging a bit deeper on techniques.

[@matu4251]

Yeah, C tier for Jon is really harsh. Definitely one of the best source of BJJ techniques/concepts on KZbin

[@GrappleHeavy93]

Teach Me Grappling should definitely be S Tier. They post the most practical and useful technique breakdowns out of every channel imo

[@TeachMeGrappling]

🤙

[@tcity2155]

I agree

[@jacobclark9578]

BJJScout is S tier forever. I still revisit his old work in spite of the lack of new content

[@Dermurder]

Nice list! I have you at S tier:). I was a bit surprised to not see Brandon Mccaghren on your list

[@dallenerickson9318]

Ditto

[@StillRolling]

The Grappling Academy w/ Coach Tom Davey is a good one to consider and Stephan Kestings is one of the OG KZbinrs. I believed he had more subscribers than anyone until Chewy finally passed him up. BMac has a killer 10p channel. Great video and good insight🤙Hope your knee heels quickly brother. I went through ACL surgery when I was a purple belt.

[@dannyg4209]

Stephan Kesting and Grappling Academy have both been super useful to me. Kesting should have been A or S for sure. GA deserved at least a B. Also no mention of Rener and Ryron?!

[@tmgoudy]

Was looking for this one too. Great channel.

[@ArizonaMMJ]

Absolutely.

[@thinkal9618]

No Less Impressed More Involved BJJ? Best channel out there for breakdowns and technique right now

[@t.farias9336]

you'd be higher in the tier list if you had links to all mentioned channels in the description

[@TylerSpangler]

Good suggestion. I’ll add them

[@GoDirectly2Jail]

The best educational channel for me by far is Jean Jacques Machado. Almost all of them are super short and sweet yet have enough depth and detail that you could spend hours working on it in class

[@Good.shepherd420]

Carlos machado has some sweet tech too.

[@adamdlamp]

I love you too ❤

[@dl6225]

Absolutely agree! Precise short and sweet, I often lose interest if too much philosophy!

[@enricopucci7413]

Try Chadi to me he is the best

[@stefanwagner1841]

Completely agree. Have learned the most from Jean's videos

[@Mattmuehl]

Agree on all of the rankings. Less Impressed, More Involved is an easy A. Zombie BJJ is also pretty entertaining for short videos. Hopefully you can include both on tier list 2.0

[@TheEndIsCuming]

Bump on zombie

[@mraBJJ33]

Less impressed is awesome, high level technique breakdowns

[@admiralsuperior3]

Yes

[@lsudx479]

I'm brand new to the sport and been looking all around at jiu-jitsu videos not knowing where to put my focus....you don't even know how helpful you've been with this video. Thanks!!!

[@cecole]

Knight Jiu Jitsu has been one of my top go-to channels for years, especially when there’s a specific technique I’m trying to break down and better understand. They’re instruction is great.

[@tyleroakley7504]

Got my blue belt from Eli, love to see his channel getting some much earned respect! He’s a great dude and an awesome teacher

[@drachemius]

Awesome video Tyler, thank you! My humble additions the list: Kama Jiu-Jitsu, Stephan Kesting, The Art of Skill, and The Grappling Academy

[@thecubeman381]

I'm a huge fan of the Grappling Academy. Most of my strats on the ground are from these guys. As for standing techniques, my picks are Prime Wrestling System and Shintaro Higashi.

[@StillRolling]

Coach Tom is awesome! We hung out at master worlds a few years back. Shintaro has some of the best Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, and Wrestling cross over out there👍

[@joshuaturney7242]

Great rankings man! I love the honesty. I believe you are rapidly approaching b tier with the journey to other gyms. Loved the roll at 10th planet!

[@james.randorff]

Missing in Action, deserving a minimum B-tier grade • Brandon McCaghren • Less Impressed, More Involved Disagree with Grade • Chewjitsu (easily A-tier) • Jedi (not quite at the level of Jordan or Chewy, but definitely a solid B-tier) • BJJ Fanatics (so inconsistent with their quality; camera angles and audio are straight out of 2010; Bernardo is amazing, but many of his guests do not know how to communicate their ideas; A-tier for Bernardo, C-tier for everything else, average to B-tier)

[@austinwynn9496]

You, jedi, and B-team are my favorites. Love the humor.

[@theneonpython]

Roy Deans channel is extremely high quality and even cinematic, probably the most entertaining for me

[@sunceremony6327]

Humble brother. Your channels really my fav. Down to earth, funny and going around different gyms that takes balls. 🙏🏼

[@brandonmcninja]

You’re dead to me, Tyler. 😂❤

[@TylerSpangler]

I’ll put you in the second version 😅😅

[@brandonmcninja]

@@TylerSpangler I’m just busting your chops, dude. Do your thing! And big congrats on having a great channel. 🙏🥰

[@StillRolling]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂this killed me!

[@8020drummer]

Of course I get a lot from your channel but it’s humbling to me to watch Jedi and realize we’re the same belt (though I think he’s got a few years on me at that rank), and see how well rounded his game is and how deep his knowledge goes

[@TourniquetAndDeliverance]

Not enough posts, but I love some of the long-form Pedigo videos that come out from time-to-time.

[@TylerSpangler]

I see they’re kicking up more videos lately which is pretty cool

[@IBleedBolts]

How have I never heard of The B Team?! Also, you could have mentioned The Art of Skill (a Roy Dean affiliate) and my sleeper channel is CVBJJ. The second channel is a no-nonsense, technique-based show that is also a Roy Dean affiliate.

[@bmxeronoffroad]

great video! Im sure youll have enough comments of other people to do another tier vid. I like "The Grappling Academy"

[@TylerSpangler]

So far you seem to be right 😂

[@sandbaggersmma]

Nice breakdown of channels! Thanks for the video 👍

[@paprika5487]

I tend to favor your channel, Jedi's, and Jordan's. These ones have helped me the most I think.

[@JordanTeachesJiujitsu]

🙏👊

[@DamnSolidWebDev]

Less Impressed More Involved needs a mention!

[@TylerSpangler]

Ahh I watched one of his videos now that you mentioned it. A good BJJ Meta channel

[@andrewstephens3440]

Watch more

[@Sean-xr1xj]

Thanks for this! Getting into BJJ and have been looking for KZbinrs to watch

[@RamseyDewey]

So the criteria was the average of: Production value, entertainment value, and BJJ skill of the presenter? That makes sense, obviously, because it’s KZbin. Out of all these guys, the ones who made the videos that had the most positive impact on my jiu-jitsu were Keenan and Lachlan Giles, and boy were those some boring, low production value videos, but they changed my game massively. So, it’s hard for me to justify tier lists because of outliers like that that aren’t edu-tainment friendly. The one I watch for most for entertainment is Jedi- he’s the first guy I saw make a BJJ instructional video that was actually really fun to watch. I like the narrative structure Chewey uses to present information. As a coach that resonates with me a lot, and I find it has a deeper long term impact on students than simply presenting facts and data. If Ryan Hall would upload more than one video a year, I wouldn’t feel bad about putting him in the S-tier of a ranking list, but as is, he’s barely a KZbinr. Dan Lukehart probably has the best audio engineering out of anyone making BJJ instructionals on or off KZbin, and that makes a massive difference, but again, he doesn’t upload consistently to KZbin.

[@JakeV.]

Teach me grappling is S tier, at least A despite production value. Coach Brian's techniques are for immediate use and easy to remember concepts

[@BarnzyMusic]

Lachlan Giles has gotta be the GOAT youtube instructor for me, so to see him in C tier cuts deep - But great shout outs to Jordan and of course B Team

[@brophymusprime593]

Super diplomatic with your list and I agree with every single point here. It's funny because I started posting jiu jitsu videos on KZbin almost 13 years ago but at the time it was such a niche market. I have an amazing crew of guys- I might have to join y'all again. -the 15 year white belt Edit- I also hit the thumbs up for this. I don't do that very often. But you deserve it for sure.

[@SuperhumanFitness]

Might have to make my own version of this. Ill give props for the idea 😉

[@pbuehner]

Good stuff. Thanks for putting this together

[@TrickyyRicky]

Grappling academy was the first channel I ever watched along with Chewy can’t thank em enough.

[@ulisespico8219]

Honestly, most of my submissions I've learned from The Grappling Academy, he breaks moves and defenses down a "t", definitely take a look!

[@jiu-jitsu8234]

The grappling academy is top tier plus he reminds me of my high school spanish teacher 😂

[@RixtyGarami]

Give me a couple of years. Hopefully I’ll be on this list by then. But first - gotta get good at Jiu-Jitsu!

[@user-uk9er5vw4c]

gym tours are priceless, you are a top youtuber

[@TylerSpangler]

Next gym tour will be a unique one!

[@user-uk9er5vw4c]

@@TylerSpangler can’t wait! Being a black belt in italy means I have not so many possibilities (just when I travel) to visit those gyms. so interesting

[@brandonleal218]

Jon Thomas is definitely a higher ranking! Great job on making the list and video, well said without being harsh, I would find this hard to do. But Id say roll against him. 😂 I am a white belt so I appreciate all of you 🤙🏼

[@kirito3082]

Yea, his didactics is exceptional, I don't mind the lack of jokes over the video and stuff like that but it does make sense to lower the tier if that's part of the criteria.

[@brandoncoffey4492]

Just a thought.. Would be really cool to see a BJJ KZbinr comp, all the top names in BJJ KZbin come together for a roll, would be like the Avengers Infinity War of BJJ KZbin lol

[@JordanTeachesJiujitsu]

I'd love that

[@StillRolling]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWGrhK2Vjrhrjrs Me and Chewy had some fun matches that day. That was my welcome to the Super Heavyweight division tournament🤙

[@brandoncoffey4492]

@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu You would love that cause you would smash them all lmao... Although you and Craig J would be very interesting to see

[@johnpedouify]

Great rankings! Stephan Kesting just shed a tear

[@tyhatfield7156]

Yeah, you need to check out the grappling academy from Australia. I think they’re pretty awesome.

[@matyviola]

Wiltse's explosive and aggressive style is an artform. He's what got me into wrestling for bjj.

[@bobby9192]

His buzzsaw technique is nice

[@philoshua]

This is a great idea for a video. People should produce more videos like this so that we can rank them.

[@jeremy41234]

Roy Deans vids are so epic I can’t say anything less than S tier 👏👏👏

[@WreckRod]

Like others have said, surprised you didn’t have Brandon McCaghren, he’s easily A and maybe S tier. Also Less Impressed More Involved is excellent for blue belts and up. Lol nobody watches Fallon for the jiu jitsu.

[@Tommybgoode]

Disappointed I didn’t make the cut… Jokes aside, live your channel bro, it’s good to have some decent stuff to watch. Big fan of Jedi too, his mini tournament recently was one of my favourite videos in a while.

[@tanmiguel4570]

Nice ranking! I like grappling academy too!

[@JonathanHebert]

I would place brian Peterson from teach me grappling and Jon Thomas higher. I agree with the B team.

[@TeachMeGrappling]

🤙

[@Emanuel_carey]

I’ve had the pleasure of rolling with chewy. I remember the first Time meeting him at a small Indianapolis tournament. Great dude, great roll.

[@lastactionhero7541]

Chewy is at least an A tier. I would put him in the S. Posts rolling footage, techniques, and answers all of the crazy questions people send him. Plus answers tons of questions weekly on his Instagram stories.

[@boganbogai894]

I love all the channels you mentioned! You are too modest Mr Spangler, your channel is easily A or high B Tier! Not fluffing you here bud, I've never laughed harder at jiujitsu videos! A Teir!

[@danielwhettam1564]

Less Impressed More Involved is at least A tier for me when it comes to technical breakdown. Less entertainment but some of the best technical discussion out there

[@ToddVance]

Man I think you hit every channel I watch EXCEPT ONE - TheGrapplingAcademy ... besides that this was a top tier list! Thanks!

[@jsg9575]

This video is great because it introduced me to a bunch of BJJ channels I didn't watch or know existed!

[@lukenordvik4205]

Tyler you are at the absolute least a high B tier KZbinr! Keep up the great work😊

[@ihormay3418]

I love Roy Dean videos. Chris Mikuta brown belt crucible is the one I send my friends when they ask me what is all about my hugging with men in pijamas

[@TylerSpangler]

I really like Roy deans as well. I love the more cinematic approach with piano. Too bad most viewers prefer lofi

[@pymebones]

Oh dude, for me Brian Glick is always SO underrated. He might light charisma but his instruction is top notch. Also, Tarik BJJ is another channel I love. Good video!

[@noway5266]

Less impressed more involved BJJ is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels

[@jonatlijonasson9477]

this is so great!!

[@JonDenton]

Shout out to all you guys, so much good content out there now. When I started training all we had was Submissions 101 😬😬😬

[@TylerSpangler]

Sub101 taught me the gogoplata. I tried doing that on like day 5 of bjj lol

[@JonDenton]

@@TylerSpangler literally did the same thing 😂

[@ronaldshimkovichus446]

Would have loved to see where do you rank the graciebreakdown , they used to be very active and popular... all in all decent video.

[@apoleonschneider]

If I can be so bold I would like to recommend Brandon Mccaghren. Love his 1 min bjj hacks in short format.

[@jacksonspry5861]

Brandon Mccaughren is an easy S tier between his instruction and the PGF streams his channel is at the top for me right now

[@stevecolvin1234]

Henry Akins' Hidden Jiu-Jitsu channel is definitely worth subscribing to for the technical content.

[@torrytucker9766]

You’re a solid B tier in our hearts Tyler ❤️😂

[@lukenordvik4205]

Agreed!!

[@samueleparo4828]

Great, but you forgot to mention the S tier channel of Tom Davey ,Jiu Jitsu academy, he got me into Jiu Jitsu! :)

[@markstone6263]

“Less Impressed More Involved” for more advanced BJJ peeps IMO, but very entertaining breakdowns, especially of popular matches, such as Gordon's current strategies

[@flowrbrain5]

like the fight to win guy at adcc - the clip for william tackett is his brother andrew in this video!

[@fazer12779]

What do you think of Flo Grappling channel? Also where can I get XMartial gear in the UK if possible?

[@My_Own_Thing]

I would have liked it if you ranked them by how educational and easy to follow their videos are. Personally i dont care if they have cool effect or are comedians, im here for learning how to get better at the sport.

[@2222MUDDYWATERS]

Roy Dean glad you brought him up great guy great videos

[@vids595]

Brandon McCaghren is S tier.

[@DexterTheDuck]

Pretty good list. I disagree with some of your rankings but for the most part good job.

[@tigzactual1559]

Bummed The Grappling Academy didn't make the ranking. Because of your videos and ads, I went to Xmartial for the first time to find out they have a Grappling Academy rash guard that I promptly purchased.

[@cjmarsh321]

There's not really new stuff coming out on his channel but Marcelo Garcia's channel is really a good source of information. Philosophy....live classes being filmed..... Break down rolls. Awesome stuff over there.

[@Good.shepherd420]

Honorary mention for bjjscout THE GOAT Less impressed more involved is quickly becoming my favorite channel since adcc. TMG S TIER TRISTAR A TIER

[@TeachMeGrappling]

🤙

[@chrismason6796]

Love the Roy Dean Crucibles.

[@stanisawstachuyankeslis8322]

thanks! Ur definitely at least B tier bro but I see where youre coming from with this. Kudos to You

[@asasadsffdgdgd]

Bro, where's Tom Davey from The Grappling Academy? I really felt like he was my coach in the early days. Still a hope of mine to visit his gym someday.

[@Devildoc512]

I agree with most of the people on your list but I would put you on an A tier. Good job brother!

[@johnwatson984]

Bmac, Less impressed and more involved, and DPS breakdowns are S teir. And I include dps breakdowns because wrestling is a part of bjj whether you like it or not. Jack Slack puts out sporadic content on grappling, but when he does it's top teir.

[@baruch669]

Throwing bmac in there is an absolute must.

[@fafodiesel1]

One I quite enjoy for the funny skits, and this year they've been doing more techniques, is Arizona Silverback. Going off your criteria id go high C, low B tier. Better mics and camera are needed but it does have a certain charm and comedy doesn't need as much production as techniques.

[@aq6331]

Jason Scully?

[@stevewyatt2002]

I got to train at Chewy's gym twice. He is is great guy and a wealth of knowledge. His students are amazing people as well. I would recommend anyone check out Derby City MMA

[@edmundozaragoza1453]

Less Impressed More Involved BJJ

[@fbcpawnee589]

Bro!!! How do you not include Bmac’s channel?! Brandon McCaughrin posts technique vids, rolling vids with live commentary, and has 4 seasons of the PGF (Professional Grappling Federation) on his channel. He posts live events and the 10th Planet stuff.

[@Jiu-JitsuJourney257]

Man I need class to work off all this food.. last hoorah before competition time. Happy Thanksgiving all!

[@jking5772]

Teach me, grappling is underrated that’s level B for me

[@TeachMeGrappling]

🤙

[@damiangaston5960]

This is a great video 👌👌

[@ThePimpedOutPlatypus]

Art of Skill is the GOAT for those of us 35+ with arthritis. I stopped having so much soreness and bruising after watching his Old Man Jiu Jitsu series.

[@hoanimaiau449]

"Less impressed more involved" should defeanetly be in the S tier! It's not even mentioned in the rooster... (just as BJJscout which is like the father of all this type BJJ analysis channels, this is SAD...). I do really think TMG (teach me grappling) should be A or S tier, this list is nonsense to me... i feel the video has been made to rub the back of those new trendy channels. Special mention for BrandonMcgaren, sonny brown and Trickster bjj (hence the lack of content)

[@ethanerwin8649]

Awesome content. Where is less impressed more involved. His content is more focused on colored belts/ competition grapplers.