I Made Midnight Club II Mature with its Audience

You can download my mod "Drive MCII" here: www.moddb.com/mods/drive-mcii...

[@Miltypooh2001]

What I love about Midnight club 2 is the fact that every racer that you meet has their own race style, soundtrack and personality it gave you an underground feeling that everybody knew everybody

[@Archyeon]

Game Journalist Mode

[@Freezorgium]

Yeah, fuck this guy's bullshit changes to the traffic. Literal skill issue.

[@flexguess7322]

I forget how hard the game actually is sometimes I’ve played it so much enough to the point the races are memorized in my head

[@SoloDallasII]

Haha yeah I had to watch playthroughs just to get through it. You have to know the map in and out. Now I'm pulling my hair out with Project Gotham Racing, another insanely hard game from that era. XD

[@Leo-em9gf]

Happend to me with Savo and Kenichi at some point you just learn there quotes 😵‍💫

[@ChrisNLR95]

I used to throw my controller lmao I was super dedicated to beat all races with my sister. Good ole days.

[@faheemjerseyxs4222]

The bikes handles like a 1970s Cadillac *Torque* *JX:* hold my power steer

[@vanadium5099]

Torque JX* and yeah, that car is so abnormally stiff, especially for the second to last car you unlock in the game

[@EugeneOneguine]

@@vanadium5099 It's because you're supposed to use the handbrake to turn with it. It's hard to master, but once you get it, it's insanely fast. Guys, not everything has to be easy.

[@vanadium5099]

@@EugeneOneguine "not everything has to be easy" you say that as if anything else in the game is. For Savo's races I use the Nousagi, Saikou XS, Knight. still by no means an east endeavor but it still feels like a huge step down going to the torque JX

[@EugeneOneguine]

@@vanadium5099 I say that as in people always want things to be easier, no challenge. MC2's difficulty is good as it is. A 12 years old can finish the game, so it's definitely not too hard.

[@vanadium5099]

@@EugeneOneguine I agree with you about MC2's difficulty being good, but I disagree that it's not hard. The game is 𝘪𝘴 hard, incredibly hard. It's one of the few racing titles out there that has the balls to actually challenge you to be creative, have fast reactions, etc. My point was that I just thought it's a strange progression to have the final car you unlock before the final champ be quite a downgrade from the previous car, the Saikou XS. For me personality I love using the Nousagi for the final races. It's a perfect blend of challenging and exhilarating.

[@SigArms40Cal229]

Dude this is awesome. I like control inputs being smooth as possible and not twitchy and sensitive. You just made it perfectly for new players to enjoy. I, thank you.

[@furbii]

2:57 my man just skipped the bikes tutorial 💀 Correction:My man just skipped all tutorials 💀💀💀

[@SoloDallasII]

"without using their special ability". My man can't hear? The point was to make it more realistic. Special abilities aren't realistic.

[@deth1634]

@@SoloDallasII leaning on a bike during cornering at high speeds isn't realistic ?

[@SoloDallasII]

@@deth1634 The special ability is not just leaning. The bikes already lean. I think it's pretty clear that I was saying it's not realistic to magically turn way tighter at the press of a button. Does Gran Turismo have a magical ability to turn tighter with the press of a button? No, because that's not realistic.

[@IronMan-ds5bi]

@@SoloDallasII I liked it before where you can weight transfer in anticipation of sharp turns, and then use the regular (albeit, more precise) steering to weave through traffic. This new adjustment seems a bit redundant, no?

[@SoloDallasII]

@@IronMan-ds5bi There is already speed sensitive steering, so if anything the special ability was redundant. I'd much rather the bikes just handle like a normal bike instead of requiring a forced mechanism to behave properly. It's like games that have a "drift" button. If the cars are set up properly, you should be able to drift without artificially forcing it.

[@Victor_2000s]

The car losing control during a jump could be avoided if you use the special moviment ability, but the rest of the physics problem looks better with the mod.

[@shawnfreeman301]

You've done ana amazing job on this. Thank you so much!

[@WASTOIDSUPREME]

Some of these changes like the reduced traffic and the scripted hazards being removed give me an idea for a name for this mod; _Weenie Hut Club II._

[@Red_Heresy]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

[@Latias38]

I know I was thinking the same thing lmao.

[@WASTOIDSUPREME]

This was really 8 months ago already? Jeez time flies by fast.

[@BrandonHilikus]

you said you hate that you can turn the car without any weight to it and it moves to the direction you want instantly ... but it makes sense when you make the point that theres too much traffic @4:17

[@RedX7771]

It’s a lot better in my opinion and would rather play this version then the original. My god, I was more mad in the Paris level then anything else and my got the handling. I finished it, painfully so but this, I could enjoy better 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@nibel-k1433]

Thoe only change i disagree with in this mod is the oversteer reduction while steering. Except for that i love everything else, very fresh. I LOVE the bikes in this game, some of the most satisfying bikes to drive in any racing game

[@Freezorgium]

I don't like the bike changes. The weight transfer exists for a reason. You made them handle like GTA V bikes which I hate.

[@Freezorgium]

And removing some of the scripted traffic, and reducing overall traffic, are completely unneeded changes that assume everybody playing is 80 years old. "the races are hard enough, trust me"? Trust you? I played the fucking game. Jesus christ, dude. Totally unwelcome.

[@yxrackman2397]

Glad to see this game is still getting love

[@itskatakiofficial]

sir, thanks for keeping this game alive 🙃

[@shrekomode]

This mod definitely makes the handling better and the game easier. It's refreshing to see a mod that rejuvenates the mechanics because most MC2 mods change stuff graphic wise but never really touch the game mechanics. I just wanted to know, in assets_p, did you changed any files outside of the ones in the tune/vehicles ? I suppose these would be the only modified files but i just wanted to make sure because I have been working on a mod pack that replaces every drivable car in the game with real car models and i would love to play the game with both my mod and yours.

[@SoloDallasII]

Glad you like it! I also edited the races, which are located in tune/race/[city name].

[@kanob6440]

The Tokyo map made me want to delete myself back in the day

[@MichaelTestoni]

A nice refresh mod for one of my favourite titles, now feel like to drive a car and not a box with wheels, good job.

[@SoloDallasII]

Thank you!

[@lucky88shp]

Good stuff man! Thanks!

[@gaithscream1226]

Bro this game f ucked me up so bad that i even started to hate racing The racers are powerful af You need to restart the race for a million times to win

[@PetsbudNasia]

I thought I was the only one regarding the game's difficulty. When I had the OG ps2 version, the races were insanely hard as a 7 year old, and I had to use the difficulty cheat to make it easier lol, especially at the Savo races (Looking at you Savo unordered Paris race).

[@tomtom98]

The vehicle tuning is really neat and a good change I think. I do like the arcadey style of it all but some vehicles were somewhat unusable with their weird stats, or only usable for one race. I can't agree with the scripted ambient changes though. The chaos of stuff like the buses and oncoming traffic, while difficult, is part of what makes this game fun. Maybe it's me and my years of replaying this game, but you do actually get used to it and develop the skills to think quickly to dodge stuff.

[@hologram4118]

ive found playing this game on pc at 60fps made it way easier. I can beat this game in like a day now.

[@Red_Heresy]

the savo races where a bit annoying but once you get a good run and you know what routes to take they arent too bad

[@jimmygreat8363]

would it be possible to mod the psp versions of midnight club

[@GTRFREAK17]

Definitely adding this to my playthrough, ever thought of making something similar for Midnight Club 3?

[@SoloDallasII]

Yes, I'm playing my way through old racing games in order of release date. Currently on Driv3r. I wish all these other games were as easy to mod as MC2. If I can, I'd love to do MC3 when I get there.

[@TheVeediot]

Bro turned MC2 in Midtown madness 1

[@midnightdev8036]

Ok mike vice cety and midnight club awesome

[@deaveoncoleman9984]

Remember the speed glitch with the bikes keep wheeling and you go faster and faster lol and if you had a fast computer you was able to speed glitch with any car online people use to think I was hacking but I just had a fast pc 😂

[@antoniosilvachannel13]

How did you change those adjustments i mean settings?

[@none-qs3sl]

Your video is giving me ideas to make a mc2 mod. any tutorials I should look at or files to extract to get started?

[@SoloDallasII]

You can download a decrypted assets_p.dat file here: mc2blackedition.weebly.com/assets_p-for-mods.html That's where most of the game files are. You can find some helpful info here: officialmc2.boards.net/board/7/modding

[@zkart1480]

@@SoloDallasII hi how i edit? i installed the file but then i open its just random words

[@SoloDallasII]

@@zkart1480 You have to unzip it.

[@zkart1480]

​@@SoloDallasIIi did i unzip with winrar but the file itself is having this words

[@SoloDallasII]

@@zkart1480 There should be folders inside, not just one file. You need to tell me more. What file are you unzipping and what file is inside?

[@yuuri17]

Hii, this might sound weird and i doubt that ill get any response to this comment but do you possibly know where i could find a free-cam mod for the game? If one even exists in the first place, i need it for one of my projects. And if there is nothing like that for the game, do you know how i could possibly try to make one?

[@Yeedman]

would be lovely innit

[@starleeroy0073]

I was using the mod and when I was in Paris it got really hard because most of the cars were not that great on concrete as the car would be bouncing around and not gaining speed that good

[@SoloDallasII]

Yeah, I couldn't find any way to change how cars behave on different road types.

[@starleeroy0073]

@@SoloDallasII Ok you’re done a good job on the Torque jx seems a lot better to drive now

[@zetsurk]

The game is actually easy for me now (not trying to flex) but i get your point where sometimes traffic could kill my run. In compensation could you make the AI race even harder? (Like not slowing down/crashing to stuff etc) I would like to challenge myself if it is possible.

[@flame_101]

There's a cheat code that increases or decreases the difficulty

[@zetsurk]

@@flame_101 I know, i mean increase the difficulty beyond that cheat code.

[@markdebruyn1212]

@@zetsurk I doubt that is possible

[@DanMan566]

does this mod replace the original game? like can i switch back?

[@SoloDallasII]

Just save a back up copy of the original assets_p.dat file and you can switch back as easily as dragging and dropping the file!

[@jacksonstorm2.0]

hey could u do a video how to download the normal Midnight Club 2 with cutscenes? Cuz I cant find any download with it in the yt:/

[@SoloDallasII]

www.myabandonware.com/game/midnight-club-ii-d4c

[@Hvitekrist777]

Tks, but what directory or folder should I install it in?

[@SoloDallasII]

Right in the main game folder. You should see a file in there by the same name: "assets_p.dat"

[@Rvxaz]

sorry, but did this man just un-arcade an arcade racing game?

[@Cashaloe]

tbh while a nice mod. Too safe. Midnight club is what it is and thats what makes it a great game

[@nonamenogame9545]

What framerate was this mod intended to be played at? I have it capped at 30 because of mechanics breaking in vanilla. Currently my experience with the mod is not great and I am wondering if that is the issue.

[@SoloDallasII]

Its runs at 60 FPS for me. What mechanics are breaking for you?

[@nonamenogame9545]

@@SoloDallasII In vanilla MC2 on the PC stuff like the top speed of cars is lowered and time to reach that top speed is lengthened when the fps is above 30 because of how the games logic is tied to it. So I've capped it to avoid those problems. Here is a link explaining everything: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaOcYnh6fKqVh8k I've gone through LA with the mod and it wasn't bad but it wasn't enjoyable either. But then I got to Paris with the stone roads, Dear God. The stone roads can kill acceleration, especially for bikes, makes handling jittery in places where it NEEDS to be precise, and if you turn sharply, as a lot of the time you are required to do, the car will flip over. Even the AI has trouble with the acceleration and flipping. Maybe that's included in the more realistic part, but given how everyone else in the comment section has been having a good experience I figured there must be something at least a little wrong. I'll try going through the rest of the game at 60 and get back to you.

[@SoloDallasII]

@@nonamenogame9545 Interesting, I had no idea about that. I can't imagine even higher top speeds, it's already crazy trying to dodge traffic as is!

[@nonamenogame9545]

@@SoloDallasII I beat the rest of the game at 60 fps and it was a little better but the problems are still there. To give myself more of an idea of what changed I went and did howhardcanitbe9 at 30 fps in vanilla MC2. This also helps expose the problems with vanilla since you have to be near perfect. I'll be posting a review on Mod DB detailing the issues I found, how it could be improved, and an overall critique of the mod, what it's trying to do, as well as why vanilla MC2 is important especially in today's state of the racing genre.

[@SoloDallasII]

@@nonamenogame9545 I'm not sure I follow, so is it harder because your top speed is limited while the AI are not? Or are the AI limited as well?

[@midnightdev8036]

Hey Mike good job im dev midnight under huge global and im make new plagins grafics with new atmosfere

[@ez1826]

how did you make the assests file readable? I opened them in notepad++ but i couldnt decode them to normal text

[@SoloDallasII]

You need to get an unencrypted version of it. The one included in my mod is not encrypted.

[@ez1826]

@@SoloDallasII i got them unpacked. would you happen to know what tweaks would make the cars fly harry potter style? I want to play ctf in the air online but i can only make the cars float by setting the gravity to 0.

[@SoloDallasII]

@@ez1826 That, I have no idea. Sorry haha

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

Nice work. I heard more in-depth content mods are extremely difficult because to my knowledge, it's apparently a pain in the ass to implement a *single* new vehicle or event, and just outright impossible to make additional career opponents or anything major unless the game somehow gets fully reverse engineered or the source code leaks. Either way, I think this mod might be a bit better to experience AFTER playing the vanilla game just so one can get a feel of both, since this does definitely change up the gameplay a bit. Maybe an alternate version that retains the original difficulty (yeah that means bullshit traffic) might be nice to have, too.

[@DaviDestroyful]

Hey bro, can you make a mod where the names of the cars are the actual names in real life....I've been trying but It never works

[@EugeneOneguine]

Amazing job on the steering and the brakes man. But I can't get behind making the races easier. The scripted buses/trucks are not that hard to dodge, you just gotta think ahead. As to the excessive traffic, if 12 years old me managed to complete races at full speed without a crash, you can do it. Don't set limitations on yourself just because it's harder than most racing games. Driving in the middle or the side usually allows you to go through any situation. Also, the problem with the landing was on purpose so you'd have to use the mass control. You didn't fix the landing, you removed the usefulness of mass control.

[@SoloDallasII]

But then it's just memorizing the script, that's not engaging to me. As far as traffic, I just want to enjoy the game, not pull my hair out doing 20 takes just to finish a race. It's still challenging anyway because the non-scripted traffic can still surprise you, but in a way that's not predictable. I'm not sure what you mean about using mass control. Does it not brake if you land perfectly on all four wheels at once? Regardless, it's definitely a bug, the game's developer that I spoke to said it was.

[@SoloDallasII]

But I can understand why somebody who has played the game many times over the past 20 years and knows the races like the back of their hand would find it too easy now.

[@EugeneOneguine]

@@SoloDallasII Well, that doesn't seem enjoyable to me. If a race takes less than 20 takes to complete, where's the challenge ? That feeling you get after you finally beat the race you've been struggling with for weeks, months, years in my case... there's no other feeling like it. People don't like challenge nowadays it seems. Even my little sisters just give up on anything when they don't succeed on the first couple of tries... I don't understand how one can be satisfied by beating a race that didn't take 20+ tries to complete. About the landing, I didn't mean the brake thing, I meant how you corrected the way it lands. The brake issue, that you mention at the end, is still there. I still find the races hard, to this day. I can't just go in and beat Savo's races on the first try if I didn't train for a few days. That's what I call interesting and challenging. There are a lot of tricks to succeed through traffic : 2-wheels driving, finding shortcuts, hugging the sidewalks, driving in the middle of the road... none of them is easy, but they're all challenging and definitely within the reach of anyone above 12 years old. I mean, there aren't even that many tracks with intense traffic, it's like 1 out of 4.

[@SoloDallasII]

@@EugeneOneguine I like a challenge, not a pain in the ass. But whatever, obviously everybody is gonna want something different. You can always restore the original race files.

[@Sunnyislive25498]

Brother i need to make a mc2 video on youtube can i use your mod.

[@SoloDallasII]

What's the video about?

[@Sunnyislive25498]

@@SoloDallasII gameplay video

[@SoloDallasII]

@@Sunnyislive25498 Okay, sure.

[@bixo2956]

dude please make a handling mod for sleeping dogs, its the best game with the worst handling lol, you make the most realistic and enjoyable of them all.

[@SoloDallasII]

I'll look into it. I don't know any coding so I can only work on games that have been cracked already, sadly.

[@isacsousaaraujo.759]

Did you also fixed the fishtail glitch?

[@SoloDallasII]

What is that?

[@isacsousaaraujo.759]

@@SoloDallasII It's a famous MC2 speedrun's glitch, where you make zig zag with the handbrake repeteadly. For some reason, the car gains speed with that, wich is ridiculous, because even starter cars can reach 249mph with that...

[@man_g4me]

did you ask him, if he still got some prototype builds of mc2 ?

[@SoloDallasII]

I did not. I doubt he would have that, as he's moved jobs since then, and it would be property of Rockstar. What would you be looking for in a prototype build?

[@man_g4me]

​@@SoloDallasII For preservation purposes, you never heard about the alpha/beta research community , like "hidden palace, the cutting room floor, forest of illusion, obscure gamers" etc... ?

[@SoloDallasII]

@@man_g4me I doubt he'd be willing to hand out a beta build even if he had one. I only asked him about how the handling physics work.

[@man_g4me]

@@SoloDallasII i see i see, the assets_p

[@johndupreeiii9736]

Tutorial please! I'm trying to mod MC3 to be more realistic! I want to change handling, performance values, and car engine sounds because some of the sounds are straight awful.

[@SoloDallasII]

How can you mod MC3? Wasn't it only for consoles? If there's a way, I'd like to give it a shot of my own. Assuming it uses similar handling physics, these links may help you: sfss.iftopic.com/t3-editing-vehcarsim-setting-tutorial officialmc2.boards.net/post/1710/thread

[@johndupreeiii9736]

@SoloDallasII yes it was but I'm running it on emulator, I assumed you were doing the same for mc2 I use cheat engine and hex editor to mod games, I thought that's what you did

[@SoloDallasII]

@@johndupreeiii9736 No, this is for the PC version.

[@SoloDallasII]

@@johndupreeiii9736 Where did you get this cheat engine?

[@johndupreeiii9736]

@SoloDallasII I just downloaded the cheat engine lmao it's literally called that, you can change hex values in the game. Also, I have a hex editor that can change hex values in the iso file of the game.

[@una_bmws1000rr]

bro because why delete NOS from all cars

[@nerdodragonnerdpl4167]

They not supras

[@smysl.zamysla]

Nice job.

[@nikostalk5730]

Bro, sorry to say, but you don't need to tweak an arcade game with all of it's Pro's of being arcade. All the awkward game moments gives you a pleasure, cause, you know - this is arcade, and it looks fun Also, you can't play online CTF math with such driving tweaks... this will be too boring to play

[@KeravnosPrime]

game is piss easy its only really difficult at howhardcanitbe9