I mapped my entire apartment’s Wi-Fi signal

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So you've got crappy Wi-Fi. What do you do when you’ve rebooted your router, checked all your cables, called your ISP, and your Wi-Fi still fails you? Obviously, you model the physics of Wi-Fi moving through space. And then test the math, square foot by square foot. Becca Farsace and Cory Zapatka teamed up to learn more about how science can help.
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@VergeScience
@VergeScience 4 жыл бұрын
What other tech should we look at from a science perspective?
@reformed1trick739
@reformed1trick739 4 жыл бұрын
Competitive online games, especially First Person Shooters like Overwatch and Call of Duty. What's the science behind gamers reaction times, accuracy and insane spatial awareness inside a virtual world? Does the brain process the information from this digital world differently? What parts of the brain are responsible for being good at videogames?
@chrisk8208
@chrisk8208 4 жыл бұрын
The 1500 plus studies showing the deleterious effects of EMF might be a good place to start? Maybe the centre of her bed is the best place for her to sleep. :) Can't be asked? Non ionising radiation perfectly safe? It's OK, these actual scientists have that covered. mdsafetech.org/
@TallTexasGMan
@TallTexasGMan 4 жыл бұрын
Mesh Network vs Access Points with CAT 6e home runs.
@butch3217
@butch3217 4 жыл бұрын
A huge cause of lag/latency is bufferbloat. SQM fixes this. Most consumer routers do not have SQM.
@chrisk8208
@chrisk8208 4 жыл бұрын
@@enckil There is silly money in telecommunications. Wherever silly money is available to corporations, they protect their financial interests. We just don't matter to them.
@reformed1trick739
@reformed1trick739 4 жыл бұрын
I love that the final solution was: "I just run an ethernet cable" Lol 😂😂😂
@chiragarora2827
@chiragarora2827 4 жыл бұрын
Same. But smartly enough, I installed another Wifi router on the other end.
@ARKEN570NE
@ARKEN570NE 4 жыл бұрын
Mesh networking ftw. Or you know move the router out from behind the brick
@0berholzer
@0berholzer 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh spoiler
@CalvinJary
@CalvinJary 4 жыл бұрын
You can do a mesh network, you can also do ethernet over power outlet
@manus5423
@manus5423 4 жыл бұрын
very wise, thats also better for your health and wifi in your bedroom even worse. I have a long enough cable that runs neatly along the walls. Always a faster and more consistent connection.
@afromillenials2313
@afromillenials2313 4 жыл бұрын
My neighbours WiFi is bad.... I've even stopped giving their password out
@sarveshpatil453
@sarveshpatil453 4 жыл бұрын
Lol🤣
@vvilliam29
@vvilliam29 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Man makes me wonder...
@faheydesign
@faheydesign 4 жыл бұрын
How about a follow up: Does moving the wifi router to a center point in the apartment fix the issue?
@ssayuriss
@ssayuriss 4 жыл бұрын
this!!
@tbhinteractieve
@tbhinteractieve 4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler: it actually does solve a big part of the issue
@joeljames2829
@joeljames2829 4 жыл бұрын
@@tbhinteractieve I mean like in my case I can't do that cuz it's fiber optics and that uses a media converter which is inputed by the fiber cable So you can't really change the postion of the wifi Ps. My walls are made of concrete lmao
@iganarendra
@iganarendra 4 жыл бұрын
Well as an telecommunication engineering student, i'd say, depends on your apartment layout tho, but worth to try because remember that modern ONT's antenna radiate the signal to all directions. So just try to imagine where to put your lamp (since they radiate in a same way)
@ChuckBoMomy
@ChuckBoMomy 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it will help massively. Instead of a lightbulb in the centre of your living room. Use a router trust me now your signal will go 360° instead of next to a wall to lose 180° of wifi through the wall. Why to u think most business put a wifi signal in the centre of the hallway.
@naramoro
@naramoro 4 жыл бұрын
Why no heatmap/ simulation comparisons?? Pretty lukewarm as far as a "science" episode goes.
@benwest5293
@benwest5293 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah seriously. They spent this effort on rendering the map in 3D space when it would've just been more useful to just compare the darn maps
@itsJPhere
@itsJPhere 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. They didn't talk about solutions to poor reception either, I was looking forward to that. Running an ethernet cable isn't always possible or practical.
@ሕያው
@ሕያው 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsJPhere just buy routers with repeaters
@ARKEN570NE
@ARKEN570NE 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously buy a mesh
@Ecupable
@Ecupable 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was thinking the same thing. Got a bit annoyed that they didn't do a comparison. Sure, the 3D overlay was cool and all... but simulation vs. observation would have been the highlight of the video.
@Deathwarrior115
@Deathwarrior115 4 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight .. They measured stuff and did nothing with it to help with the wifi signal ... Bruh i feel like i wasted time on this vid :/
@JorgeSilvestrini
@JorgeSilvestrini 4 жыл бұрын
Deathwarrior Yeah, I loved the video... But I did miss the, let’s add this little gadget here to improve WiFi everywhere.
@lonerider68
@lonerider68 4 жыл бұрын
I think this was just an attempt to show off the science. I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if you put your wifi router on one side of your home, the signal is going to be worse through multiple walls on the other side of the home. Either put it in the middle if possible, or use Nest/Eero mesh wifi, or use some type of PowerLine ethernet (basically it plug into your wall outlet and you have ethernet going in/out).
@reesewilson
@reesewilson 4 жыл бұрын
Moca networking is often better than mesh or ethernet over power lines. If you have coax connections, it's definitely worth looking into, either moca wifi extenders or directly to an ethernet cable
@spacerace8598
@spacerace8598 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks . therefore I don't watch this video
@JonoSSD
@JonoSSD 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I checked the app and, although useful, it's very basic. It doesn't let you choose between 2.4 and 5GHz, which can spread very differently through the same environment.
@2cliques
@2cliques 4 жыл бұрын
Not everything is signal strength. You're also greatly influenced by the noise coming from competing routers nearby. Picture yourself in a bar having a conversation with a friend. If you move around the bar you'll hear your friend better or worse, but it can change with the amount of things around you AND if there are other people talking, and how loud.
@evolicious
@evolicious Жыл бұрын
@@OwlBlancx No, that's BS. Completely different radio bandwidth.
@gdnh
@gdnh 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all never heard of mesh wifi?
@DrewLakebrink
@DrewLakebrink 4 жыл бұрын
For a place that small it wouldn't be worth the cost. A better DNS service, better standalone router, or simply move the router. It would've been nice for them to have some kind of resolution to the video instead of going "yep already knew wifi was bad there". For the guy in the video, hardwire is the only way to go for the large video file sizes editors deal with.
@SerpentDrago
@SerpentDrago 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewLakebrink dns has nothing to do with wifi signal.
@DrewLakebrink
@DrewLakebrink 4 жыл бұрын
@@SerpentDrago I agree, but sometimes it's just the transfer speeds. I had an issue that was resolved with switching to Google's DNS service. There are other ones, but I prefer theirs. I've done this with fiber and cable based service always with an increase in responsiveness. You could try another broadcast channel too. It's always cheaper to try a settings adjustment than getting new hardware.
@burtjohnson3848
@burtjohnson3848 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewLakebrink - I put in an EERO mesh, and it made all the difference in the world. Depends, I suppose, on the wall construction. Ours is all concrete, and our TV could not pick up reliable signal most of the time. Our MagicJack would also drop out if you walked a few feet while talking. Putting the EERO in solved all that, and we now have solid signal throughout the 4 bedroom apartment.
@ChuckBoMomy
@ChuckBoMomy 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using a wifi powerline whit my clients trust me before u start complaining. 2020 powerlines can reach speeds of 400mbps fast enough for 80% of USA internet speeds. And its stil better than wifi
4 жыл бұрын
New tenant: Is there something else I should know about the apartment? Becca: Yeah, don’t lay in the middle of the bed.
@seasong7655
@seasong7655 4 жыл бұрын
This is also what they do for whole cities, when setting up cell towers. Not only in 2D but also in 3D maps
@international-arms-dealer
@international-arms-dealer 4 жыл бұрын
we also do this for clients when designing wireless networks for their facilities.. skyscrapers, industrial plants, etc.. there is huge money in it.
@ninjanerdstudent6937
@ninjanerdstudent6937 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video about that.
@06howea1
@06howea1 2 жыл бұрын
Finding the software to do this is insane hard
@evolicious
@evolicious Жыл бұрын
@@06howea1 That's becasue it's custom built by software and network engineers. It's actually the industry I work in as a network technician.
@HenriqueOz
@HenriqueOz 4 жыл бұрын
0 - 7:52 - Science 7:52 - end: Engineering
@davenz000
@davenz000 4 жыл бұрын
Tech person doesn't understand WiFi, enough said.
@iStudLion
@iStudLion 4 жыл бұрын
It kinda depends in what you specialize
@bbowling4979
@bbowling4979 4 жыл бұрын
But he's got a microscope on his kitchen table! He must be a scientist!
@felipevasconcelos6736
@felipevasconcelos6736 4 жыл бұрын
Science is when you do pretty graphics, right?
@xerotoninz
@xerotoninz 4 жыл бұрын
so lets improve the wifi by moving the router. lmao nah bruv you like blue 3d squares instead?
@hilal_younus
@hilal_younus 4 жыл бұрын
But cable management 😬..
@Classsikhal
@Classsikhal 4 жыл бұрын
Try WifiAR this app does the some stuff you did just in seconds 😂
@DrewLakebrink
@DrewLakebrink 4 жыл бұрын
It's amusing that they used an Android app for the simulation then they link to an iOS speed test app.
@lostcowboy5
@lostcowboy5 4 жыл бұрын
Be sure to install "WiFi AR - most useful tool ever", there is another "WiFi AR - open wifi seeker" also.
@MalaysianTropikfusion
@MalaysianTropikfusion 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, what did I learn from this video? 😵
@devildham
@devildham 4 жыл бұрын
Get a mesh network.
@julianmurillo4678
@julianmurillo4678 4 жыл бұрын
that Ethernet is the best
@StephenOrion
@StephenOrion 4 жыл бұрын
use an unsightly cable lol
@MalaysianTropikfusion
@MalaysianTropikfusion 4 жыл бұрын
@@julianmurillo4678 Is there a way to connect an ethernet cable to devices like the iPad, PS4/5, Nintendo Switch, and ultrathin laptops? I don't have them, but just wondering...
@julianmurillo4678
@julianmurillo4678 4 жыл бұрын
@@MalaysianTropikfusion You can get a Ethernet to lighting adapter and to mini Ethernet. The PS4 has a dedicated Ethernet port
@KrzysztofC-1
@KrzysztofC-1 4 жыл бұрын
Did not check router wifi settings to understand channels and channel width settings configured there and didn't check wifi channels congestion??? I mean yea it's plug and play, but not going to be optimal that way. Manual wifi settings + range/speed tests are the way to go.
@davidchidester5463
@davidchidester5463 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Avoiding the default channels is really important especially in apartments.
@ch4.hayabusa
@ch4.hayabusa 4 жыл бұрын
This is a science channel... too many vairables. I once thought I was having wifi issues... turned out I was over heating my speakers with too much voltage.
@oPurpleGorillao
@oPurpleGorillao 3 жыл бұрын
So she works on the “tech” side of the verge, yet she doesnt know how to improve her own wifi? A diversity hire perhaps?
@MrWhangdoodles
@MrWhangdoodles 4 жыл бұрын
They're way too bored.
@hkyt21
@hkyt21 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot exactly which model but a Roomba can make the wifi map of your house or room.
@VahidShirvani
@VahidShirvani 4 жыл бұрын
I own Roomba 980 and it can make a WiFi map but only for 2.4Ghz and not 5Ghz band.
@Jonathan.mp4
@Jonathan.mp4 4 жыл бұрын
For a techie she really thought having a router behind her TV not in the middle of her apparement really thinking if she deserves the tech savvy card 🙄😂
@samphire
@samphire 4 жыл бұрын
Does Becca know wifi range extenders are a thing?
@fowzst
@fowzst 4 жыл бұрын
I just wasted 8 minutes 😣
@sidjtd
@sidjtd 4 жыл бұрын
Right?
@astroch
@astroch 4 жыл бұрын
This video... Sounds like a wasted of time. So im not taking the risk. Edit: from comments, seems like i was right.
@derriemoon9979
@derriemoon9979 4 жыл бұрын
Me, at my 148th day in quarantine:
@smashandburnyt6938
@smashandburnyt6938 4 жыл бұрын
Verge Science: Complains about poor wifi signals Me and everyone in the Philippines: First time?
@ghostnoodle9721
@ghostnoodle9721 4 жыл бұрын
Americans: We've been doing this for a while
@shivaniarunkumar1248
@shivaniarunkumar1248 3 жыл бұрын
When you get a bad signal...sit near the router ..or take your router and plug it near an opening..
@isramint
@isramint 4 жыл бұрын
No! : you can't just leak my apartment layout and get away with it! Haha FBI go brtrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@Zanagash
@Zanagash 4 жыл бұрын
Soooo.... how to fix the problem ? Thanks for the waste of time !😅
@rstar0000
@rstar0000 4 жыл бұрын
Ethernet, man
@Zanagash
@Zanagash 4 жыл бұрын
OOoorrr... stuffs to boost your wifi signal or to bounce it ? I did the research myself LOL
@zsolti256
@zsolti256 4 жыл бұрын
lol , at least inform the viewer How to place the antennas, and router to make it more effective. . .
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 4 жыл бұрын
“I didn’t think the simulation would do such a great job” Guy : so I want you to manually map it out instead “You know I think the simulation did a great job”
@luispedrogonzalez5738
@luispedrogonzalez5738 4 жыл бұрын
Having WiFi problems: The Verge: measures everything in the apartment and runs simulations. Me: Presses restart button on the router
@hilal_younus
@hilal_younus 4 жыл бұрын
Heh, it’s worth the wait eh?
@MrSebastiniposaunini
@MrSebastiniposaunini 3 жыл бұрын
How is she a "tech specialist" and not know how WiFi works?? I'd say even most fortnite kids know better
@Solais1019
@Solais1019 3 ай бұрын
You can be a tech specialist on the actual circuitry or mechanical/electrical workings, but not for radiation sciences even if it's part of the technology. Most people are concerned with the mechanical/electronic, not the radiative.
@mikeg9b
@mikeg9b 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when I made an elevation map of my backyard using a laser level and a tape measure.
@JonoSSD
@JonoSSD 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised that Verge's tech people don't know where to properly put a wifi router.
@adrleao15
@adrleao15 4 жыл бұрын
Very poor exploration of results. I was expecting a plot right over the other 🤦 Give it a try next time. Or, if you did, it didn't work really well
@dgates19
@dgates19 4 жыл бұрын
Did you take into account Becca being in the way of the phone during monitoring? People absorb signals too
@MartinMilan1234
@MartinMilan1234 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a good reminder
@patrickhamelc1902
@patrickhamelc1902 4 жыл бұрын
What a stupid convoluted way of showing your wifi signal in your bedroom is too low. Just add an approriate cabled wifi repeater/other router. Also much better then a flawed simulation just actually use the multiple preexisting wifi signal analyser tools out there and CHECK WHATS ACTUALLY GOING ON WITH YOUR SIGNAL. neat but quite useless for home use really
@foggs
@foggs 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of 2.4Ghz vs 5Ghz, and channel numbers, which can make a big difference depending on what your neighbours are using
@randfee
@randfee 3 жыл бұрын
How can you say that the simulation was spot on if you didn’t even overlay The simulation with the measurements? It would’ve been really interesting to see if some of the interference patterns could explain some of the pockets of bad signal. It seems to me that she did not take care of her own orientation probably shielding the signal with her body and some places and not in others.
@ianthehunter3532
@ianthehunter3532 4 жыл бұрын
What's the point of that last clip? Trying to show that cable speed is faster than wifi?
@vista9434
@vista9434 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it is, CAT5e/CAT6 ethernet is quicker than 802.11ac and ax real world speeds
@ianthehunter3532
@ianthehunter3532 4 жыл бұрын
@@vista9434 I know it is, I thought it was too obvious
@taylorlightfoot
@taylorlightfoot 4 жыл бұрын
You all need some good gear from UI.com Multiple access points and band steering capable access points are the solution to good wifi as well as making sure everything that can be Ethernet wired, is, so there's more airtime for the wifi connected devices that need to be wifi connected.
@fennewald5230
@fennewald5230 4 жыл бұрын
this is just wrong. As of 802.11n (most modern routers), beam forming is in the spec. this does not even consider those effects.
@ASLUHLUHC3
@ASLUHLUHC3 4 жыл бұрын
Cool graphics
@Runner50783
@Runner50783 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I give The Verge the benefit of the doubt, they disappoint. Tech people how know nothing about tech
@champ8080
@champ8080 4 жыл бұрын
Have been working from home for the last 5 months. My Wi-Fi signal bothered me a lot. Bought a new router with 5 antennas and an extender but it didn't help much. Finally migrated to mesh Wi-Fi and have been never been happier. Signal is strong in every part of the house and I stream 4K and get into video calls with Zero reduction in quality. So, go mesh!!!
@DrewLakebrink
@DrewLakebrink 4 жыл бұрын
Or find a better place for the router, check the DNS settings, and make sure the router's firmware is up to date. You can also change the channel it broadcasts on for a better signal. Unfortunately, if you have a large house, brick walls, etc there's not much you can do and mesh wifi would be the only solution.
@champ8080
@champ8080 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DrewLakebrink In fact, I did find a better place using Wi-FiSweetSpots app. But in order to place the router in that location, the LAN cable had to travel half of my home, on the floor. Ducting did not make sense in terms of price and effort. I did try moving to Cloudflare DNS and installing a PiHole system for better bandwidth management, but I was not happy. So again, go mesh! :-)
@borgy7085
@borgy7085 11 ай бұрын
Seems like someone is part of the LGBTQ+ ;)
@bleuebloom
@bleuebloom 4 жыл бұрын
4:53 “This app called Ooka Speedtest” seriously?
@jaxjaguarz
@jaxjaguarz 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Seriously.
@Jmanyc123
@Jmanyc123 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s not even really measuring signal strength, don’t think they realized it’s a rip off app.
@werdnaf
@werdnaf 4 жыл бұрын
I think they used Oka Wifi by Xiaoyan Huang
@jhayar15
@jhayar15 3 жыл бұрын
"Tech Nerd" and can't even figure out why she has bad Wi-Fi connection
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 4 жыл бұрын
Forget using the app the simulate your apartments wifi dead zones, use it to find an optimal router location!, Then invest in lots of extension cables and a router wall mount
@yurrrfrombk4039
@yurrrfrombk4039 4 жыл бұрын
Get a better router... get a access points. 𝗗𝗢𝗡𝗘
@buccob
@buccob 4 жыл бұрын
Watching these people with speeds in the hundreds complain, from my single digit mbps internet...
@otamisan
@otamisan 4 жыл бұрын
just install a wifi repeater / mesh something
@_TbT_
@_TbT_ 4 жыл бұрын
A repeater cuts the available wifi bandwith in half, as wifi is a shared medium. Better put up several CABLED wifi access points, with every one on different channels.
@BloodAsp
@BloodAsp 4 жыл бұрын
@@_TbT_ Sometimes people refer to powerline ethernet as repeaters. Even the netgear box that I got which came with what they called a repeater was powerline ethernet.
@_TbT_
@_TbT_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@BloodAsp Well, that however is not what "repeater" really means. A repeater receives a signal, and sends it out again, both wirelessly. What you described would be an "access point with powerline uplink". Some "repeaters" can be either used as RJ45 cabled wireless access points, or as true wireless repeaters. The first thing is fine, the second one not so much.
@BojanPotocnik
@BojanPotocnik 4 жыл бұрын
Plume pods would solve this at its finest
@_TbT_
@_TbT_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@BojanPotocnik All I can see on their website is some marketing blobbery. No technical facts, supported standards, anything... One cannot have any idea if this could help, because nothing is known. I don't like buying stuff I know nothing about.
@alltimezephanie
@alltimezephanie 4 жыл бұрын
Just get a wifi repeater on dead spots :)
@moeh.4866
@moeh.4866 4 жыл бұрын
& I was waiting the whole video for a suggested solution..
@lemchakenglang9967
@lemchakenglang9967 3 жыл бұрын
I just ended up adding 10 Wifi extender in my house 😂
@benm.4117
@benm.4117 3 жыл бұрын
That felt like half a video - where they diagnosed the issue but completely disregarded the solution.
@andreethier816
@andreethier816 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested in doing something like this myself. The only things I'm curious about are the program that you used to simulate a router (don't know if the name is mentioned, I may have missed it) and how you got the floor plan of the signal overlaid on pictures of the living room/kitchen/bedroom.
@southernscythe2494
@southernscythe2494 4 жыл бұрын
An Android mapping Wi-Fi signals... The future is bright
@jaypunzalan6999
@jaypunzalan6999 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't you guys heard about wifi repeater/extender?
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg 3 жыл бұрын
I perform heat mapping and WIFI troubleshooting as my day job for an ISP. The very FIRST thing they should have done was look for other EM interference. There are several phone apps that show a "radar" GUI of all the 2.4ghz and 5ghz signals overlapping one another. If shes in an apartment then her router is competing for air space from all the neighbors. The solution is to either move the router to a more centralized location, or to get one with stronger output (essentially a louder output to drown out the neigbors routers). Or also depending on how much interference there is she could use a repeater or a separate wireless AP (access point) to get a strong signal in other rooms.
@alandoesexist
@alandoesexist 4 жыл бұрын
Iphone user with pixel buds?
@qwarlockz8017
@qwarlockz8017 4 жыл бұрын
I think this would be a great thing to add to a roomba or some walking (hexapod) or flying drone. Although I love the kick it old school with paper and pencil I can totally see strapping a phone to the roomba and having it automatically take the measurement at each 2 feet. Although really a hexabod walking around would just be cool!
@evolicious
@evolicious Жыл бұрын
You can do this with AR on a pretty much any smartphone with a TOF sensor, or just optical machine learning in pretty much any recent smartphone. VR systems do this to map out play areas too. Roombas use optical tracking and machine learning to map the room they are in already too, but it's internal data that is used for memory applications to make efficiently changes to it's pattern and scaling.
@Silverspy97
@Silverspy97 4 жыл бұрын
This video feels half baked.
@RenegadeShepard69
@RenegadeShepard69 4 жыл бұрын
Quarantine holiday/home office project. Let's give them a break. I was expecting more aswell but it's ok I guess.
@TinRapper
@TinRapper 4 жыл бұрын
Is she using Google Pixel Buds with an iPhone?
@nabii5951
@nabii5951 4 жыл бұрын
She got really hung up on the 3D app for a minute...
@geejay21
@geejay21 4 жыл бұрын
I wasted my time with this video
@cvasquez601
@cvasquez601 4 жыл бұрын
Is using an iPhone with notorious sketchy antennas the best way to measure the wifi signal strength? Just curious given their relatively weak and unreliable radios
@marquez2447
@marquez2447 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it works because in this case, you are comparing changes or deltas of something, not the amount per se
@QuestionEverythingButWHY
@QuestionEverythingButWHY 4 жыл бұрын
“To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk.” ― Thomas A. Edison
@see_turtle
@see_turtle 3 жыл бұрын
Wow perfect timing: my wifi just lagged Coincidence??
@RachelsSweetie
@RachelsSweetie 3 жыл бұрын
When we moved into our 4-bedroom house I planned to put my router near the middle of the main floor. But at first I put it in the basement because there was a cable outlet there. And it worked fine throughout the whole house through multiple walls and floors, even the bedrooms at the corners of the second story. Over the past 20 years we've been through many routers but they've all covered the entire house just fine from that spot in the basement. It's sad that a single-floor apartment would have any issues. That first "router" was an Apple Airport flying-saucer base station that used a Lucent pcmcia card for wifi. Not much by today's standards.
@Reedith
@Reedith 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's not a good router Get something from ubiquiti
@_TbT_
@_TbT_ 4 жыл бұрын
...and more than one access point (with cabled uplinks). Problem solved.
@617NEvo
@617NEvo Жыл бұрын
Verizon sponsored
@gezimkurti1222
@gezimkurti1222 4 жыл бұрын
Becca is awesome!
@KolTregaskes
@KolTregaskes 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an app like Oka for Android?
@international-arms-dealer
@international-arms-dealer 4 жыл бұрын
of course.. anything related to "wifi analyzer" there are tons of them.
@andreylucass
@andreylucass 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, cool. What's next? Change its position? Buy another router, mesh, booster? E depois disso?
@C0mmander
@C0mmander 4 жыл бұрын
1 minute in, seeing TP-Link. Issue found.
@carluse8828
@carluse8828 4 жыл бұрын
Actually newest models of TP is very solid. Mine works like a charm
@NetMaestro2009
@NetMaestro2009 4 жыл бұрын
Trust KZbin to have a answer for ANY problem! I have been going down this path of trying to fix Wifi Coverage issue and was going down a very similar path as shown in this video. I had tried powerline extenders (not that great), finally upgraded to 1 GB fiber ISP which meant the extenders cannot support those speeds. I finally decided to add another router (placed in my bedroom) to my existing one (dining room, both ASUS AC models) , hooked them up using ASUS's AiMESH feature with a good old Cat 6 cable. Now, I am happy. Getting 400+ Mbps in my bedroom and I am smiling. P.S. I have been around when 9.6Kbps was THE thing to have (remember the modem handshake tone?) so unbelievable that we have come this far in about 25 years.
@spicy_fiona
@spicy_fiona 4 жыл бұрын
This helps so much!!!! Life saviour for me to send to my parents, aunt, uncles since they keep messaging about "fixing the wifi! You're the tech person🤓😂"
@ProductNoel
@ProductNoel 4 жыл бұрын
Becca, you normally do a really god job at balancing the raw information. Along with your own mix of input and humor. Not this one champ.. This was a swing and a miss. It felt like I just watched a very bad "Hollywood B-roll film". Are you guys actors now or providing usable information that and also great? Please do better. 🙂
@marty639
@marty639 Жыл бұрын
What is this
@Milky094
@Milky094 4 жыл бұрын
What router is that? Never heard of this "Decent" brand! Jokes aside, an actually good router can solve a lot of problem.
@WoutMertens
@WoutMertens 4 жыл бұрын
It was weird, they first showed one router (I'm guessing the FiOS box) and then another TP-Link one. Doesn't the FiOS have Wi-Fi embedded?
@SerpentDrago
@SerpentDrago 4 жыл бұрын
She just needs a proper central mounted wired ap like a ubiquity device
@Eldaino999
@Eldaino999 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoutMertens usually fiber backed providers like fios and uverse will I N S I S T you use their boxes. Thats 80% of the issue right there. But your own modem and mesh wifi router and voila: problem solved.
@br4nd0nh347
@br4nd0nh347 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoutMertens it is the verizon fios box, I have one.
@jaxjaguarz
@jaxjaguarz 4 жыл бұрын
@@SerpentDrago Yep. Spends $100/month on ISP, can't spend $100 once on a good WiFi AP.
@coleabrahams9331
@coleabrahams9331 4 жыл бұрын
@Verge Science Are you measuring Ping (e.g. 19.0 ms) , Download speed, or upload speed using the okaSpeedTest app?
@alap1983
@alap1983 4 жыл бұрын
So the "Tech" Gal is NOT interested in Exploring HOW to improve the WiFi Signal? Does the Verge NOT hire people for Tech Dept. that are Insanely Passionate about Tech? I did this (without the tape measure) LONG Before this video. Moreover, I did it with 2.4GHz 300Mbps WiFi N Router and some very sketchy USB WiFi Adapters. Android smartphones have excellent apps that can be used to monitor WiFi Signal Strenght. These apps can be used to change the physical location of the router or try different antenna positions to improve WiFi Signal. @VergeScience or @VergeTech, please consider hiring me. I am extremely passionate about optimizations, tweaks, and successfully executing minor but satisfying improvements using Tech.
@RandomSpaceMonkeys
@RandomSpaceMonkeys 4 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@CalvinErico
@CalvinErico 4 жыл бұрын
Science channel? Using IMPERIAL? Disgusting. Don’t call yourself a science channel if you can’t have international standards.
@streamtabulous
@streamtabulous 4 жыл бұрын
what a F'up doesn't take into account copper pipes in shower nor power lines in walls both affect wifi massively. this honestly is the worst video i have seen regarding Wifi
@nastycricket9845
@nastycricket9845 4 жыл бұрын
A very good starting point if you have bad wi-fi at home. I would say that physically mapping in that way wouldn't help much, but at least gives the perspective of how the wi-fi works. Here is the solution: make the map in the first app. Check accuracy with a speed test in a couple of locations (low and high signal). If you are happy with the accuracy you can proceed with simulating the router in different locations. After you found the perfect spot, get long enough cable and take the router there. Again check the accuracy of the map using speed test. If you are happy with the results you would just need to figure out if you would install extension socket or hide the cable somehow. There you go the wi-fi is fixed. Some tips from me: avoid glass, metal and electrical devices near the router; Don't put the router on the floor or on the window cell; If you have glass doors opening the door does miracles. In some cases, the problem is not from the location of the router but interference from other wi-fi networks. In such cases, there is another fix available. You need to go to your router's settings page. Usually, the address is either 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.0.1. This is noted on the back/bottom of most routers and also the login details for the page. This excludes most providers routers, so you might need to call them for the login details. Once you are in that page you would be looking for something that would say wireless/ wi-fi or wireless settings. Under the wireless network settings there would be something saying desired channel/channel with numbers from 1 to 13 as options. Select any number and apply. Test if it doesn't work try another and so on. Easier way is to check the surrounding networks using CMD with command - netsh wlan show networks bssid. Once you have the surrounding network's channels you can select one that's not around you. Hope this helps :)
@Weaseltube
@Weaseltube 4 жыл бұрын
Love how they overlook what should have been the obvious solution before all the testing; move the router away from the brick corner into a more central, open area of the apartment. My own solution is to have the slowest internet plan available, so I can't differentiate any potential WiFi bottleneck compared to my normal wired connection quality.
@josephsheranda
@josephsheranda 4 жыл бұрын
1. Get a better router. ISP routers are almost always cheap junk. Make sure it has removable antennas. 2. Get directional antennas. I use a Hawking corner-mount model HAI15SC. No booster needed; it runs on the router's native power. It pushes signal through all the walls of my 4 bedroom house and outside into the street. My neighbours could have great Wi-Fi if they knew the password, lol. Seriously, this video was informative, but it's purely academic. Even some basic Wi-Fi hacks to improve the signal (like not locating the router behind the damn tv) would add content to an otherwise bland eight minutes.
@reddcube
@reddcube 4 жыл бұрын
How to improve WiFi. 1. Can you use a cable? Then use a Ethernet cable. 2. Place the router in the center of the space and up high. 3. Try 5 GHz, because 2.4GHz might be crowded. 4. Check router setting to prioritize devices. 5. Seriously just use a cable.
@beaudanner
@beaudanner 4 жыл бұрын
Wait. There was no solution and the unrelated remedy was "run an Ethernet cable?" Ugh. I could have been asleep
@Flopsaurus
@Flopsaurus 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you guys not overlay her measurements against the simulation in a top-down image?
@123starweb
@123starweb 4 жыл бұрын
99% of WiFi problem is due to signal congestion with other surrounding WiFi. Many people don't realise this and think something is wrong with their WiFi. The solution is simple, switch to WiFi channel not overlapping with your nearby WiFi. There is a wonderful app on windows 10 store which can help with identify channel of all wifi network in your home. It's called Wifi analyser. PS: If your device support 5GHz it's least congested and used WiFi band.
@michaelberg9693
@michaelberg9693 4 жыл бұрын
Mapping signal strength values with a pencil in a notebook in 2020? Seriously? Special software that can create virtual environment models for computing Wi-Fi signal propagation or map an existing Wi-Fi network has been available for a decade. TamoGraph Site Survey, Ekahau, etc.
@TheJma945
@TheJma945 4 жыл бұрын
5:05 did I spy the surface buds?
@lostcowboy5
@lostcowboy5 4 жыл бұрын
H,i today Google's app coughed up this story on "The Verge" the problem is the story did not name the Android app, This video does not name the Android app. The only thing I had to go on is the guys name from the video, "Jason Cole". So I had to do a google search on "Jason Cole" Android app, luckily that worked to get me the name of the app, WiFi Solver FDTD. I also wanted to let you know about a app called WiFi Analyzer. It may be that you are also getting interference from your neighbor WiFi, and you need to change your WiFi channel in your router.
@bsfatboy
@bsfatboy 4 жыл бұрын
Does the app accommodate for multiple story buildings
@MarcLeatham
@MarcLeatham 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, LOVE that casual flex of the Gold Play Button at the end.
@V3ritas1989
@V3ritas1989 4 жыл бұрын
0:15 well first thing I´d say, it would be beneficial to place IoT devices like Philips hue home station a little bit further away from your router. And maybe not place it behind something like your TV
@ARKEN570NE
@ARKEN570NE 4 жыл бұрын
Yep wifi AC and up uses beam forming radio and can't hit anything well within about 2 feet
@CaedenV
@CaedenV 3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story; when you need the internet to work.... run a wire lol But seriously though, WiFi has gotten a lot better, and is generally reliable, but it is still the voodoo of tech. The trick is to get your stationary devices off the wireless where you can (desktops, TVs, refrigerators, doorbells, cameras, etc), especially when there is real-time or video traffic involved. If that does not solve the issue for your remaining wireless devices, then get a distributed wireless network up and running. For the nerdy among you, go with the business class Ubiquiti equipment. It is solid, not horribly expensive, has PoE options, as well as indoor and outdoor units available. The initial setup can be a bear... but once it is set up, you will never have to touch it again until it is replaced. It is fantastic. Through this whole pandemic of me working from home, my kids video chatting in class, and my wife teaching piano remotely, we have had 0 wifi issues this whole time. For the less technically inclined here, just go pick up the Google Nest WiFi. It is not quite as good, but it is still awesome, and far FAR easier to set up. But the trick to good wifi is to have lots of access points, and turn the volume on each AP down to a low to moderate level. If your access points are too loud, then your devices will not give up the connection and move to the next closer/faster access point, which then defeats the point... and you will get cross talk, which further complicates issues rather than making it better. So lots of access points, low volume, preferably with a wired connection between each AP and the internet, and you should be golden. Set it up right once, and leave it alone until you replace the access points in 10-15 years.
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