I may have cheated in this Trackmania Cup...

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#Wirtual #Trackmania #cotd

[@onlysmiles4949]

This is a certified 34% moment

[@ethanreid6700]

This better stay as top comment

[@k4pn]

it will

[@WoopyGrim]

We need to make sure it will

[@timmygobel5476]

THE KEYBOARD

[@justinalias2279]

That board is key

[@munchkinmatt1670]

"Check if the WR wiggles." "My run is the WR." 🤣

[@lagg1e]

Chat doesn't know who they're dealing with.

[@aint_noway_dude]

Only if he said, "I am the World Record"🤣

[@qwertek8413]

I won't watch the World Record Skyler, I am the World Record!

[@richardmoore7730]

Gigachad af

[@chrislawson3536]

I’m dum timestamp?

[@enefik]

I remember as a kid watching him play this COTD. I'm in my 80's and this video brings back nostalgic memories

[@sebproud]

He was one of my favourite streamers to watch growing up too! Every time my grandchildren visit I tell them about him, but its sad that he went out the way he did

[@get_vectored2757]

can i borrow the time machine when ur done

[@rorycannon7295]

bro is a fruit fly

[@timyassa4343]

I'm in my 70s but used to watch him in highschool

[@newtonthenewt1400]

@@timyassa4343 bro I'm only 25 and watched him when I started collecting my first social security checks.

[@walterreed6645]

For those of you who don’t understand all of the comments about the number 34: Wirtual’s action keys are set at 34% for his turns and caused a rule change. For more information just look up “Wirtual Rule 34”

[@sleezingrn.4759]

Good one

[@noob2572]

LOOOL

[@brodie-yq5ig]

the fuck did i just search up bro my mum is yelling at me because i was in the loungroom

[@Kinwika2]

Man i love the number 34 for apsolutely no reason at all

[@damingaman]

Rule 34 😏

[@Vexinal]

@@damingaman THATS NOT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

[@duseifert]

​@@Vexinal too late

[@firedell1031]

~You know the rules, and so do I~

[@devoonhmm5945]

​@@duseifert the rules of the internet right? right?

[@DankBobRoss]

It’s so fun watching wirtual’s head turn with the car when he focuses, he becomes one with the car

[@connorball4504]

Never noticed that 😂

[@qwertek8413]

Do you play Trackmania? I actually noticed that I'm also doing that unintentionally and it's really hard for me to stop doing :D

[@panko6632]

Ngl that is pretty cute

[@soggytatty3845]

I never noticed it now I can't unsee it

[@kristophercole7161]

anyone know the song at 23:55 ?

[@codetaku]

elconn casually beating wirtual's world record in the first live round was pretty sick though, 47.272 before Wirtual actually noticed the final world record during the cup at 47.188

[@kristophercole7161]

anyone know the song at 23:55 ?

[@lilganja1337]

Uploaded 34 minutes ago, how I love the number. On another note though, can we talk about how Micka was consistently fast/er than Wirtual "cheating"? That guy is insane!

[@timjennings8152]

Confirmed Micka is hard-wired at 34%

[@Furious_Bananas]

@@timjennings8152 comment 34 minutes old

[@Oldsah]

doesn't he play controller

[@Chizypuff]

Controller has higher potential on bobsleigh, being able to change the steering angle over the course of turn as well as just having full analog range

[@Oldsah]

@@DaniV65 i watched it. I was referring to micka. My question was whether he wa splaying on controller

[@eclipseeffigy]

Wirtual: I'm recording an intro, give me a sec Jnic: hold my hangboard, I'm going in! 😂

[@HammerdWalrus]

imo, it's not cheating unless there is a rule/unspoken rule about the given issue. The keyboard thing wasn't an issue until it was, so it really wasn't cheating until it became a debate. Plus, with Wirtual being honest about the keyboard and how it works shows that there was no intent to cheat, only an accident if anything. If this can be considered accidental cheating, then it's probably the only case I've seen personally.

[@MaxMckayful]

"Technically correct" is such a convenient line that FEELS objective but often isn't. There's such a thing as spirit of the law. I also don't think action keys, at the time, really broke spirit of the law (though the fact that some players have it and some don't is problematic) but Wirtual obviously wasn't being nefarious about it. That said, hiding behind technical "there's a rule" evades accountability from at times unjust laws and systems.

[@ZeD69420]

They had 40%action keys whats so bad if someone makes their own for 34% just a bunch of babies crying. In the end the controller was the faster input method hahaha.

[@Pendergast891]

@@ZeD69420 yeah, on his main channel he even talked about how he was showing it off to his chat and how it worked and the pros and cons of it. and as he said the only questionable thing that ended up getting it banned from future games was that it gave too much consistency for little downside. he didnt hide it, people saw he had a 'modified' action key for a while and thought nothing of it, only until a 34% angle was more efficient than 40% did it become and issue, and its only a matter of time until nadeo makes in-game customizable action key-binds.

[@hallymiao2825]

It was kinda moot in the end anyways.. as it was proven that controller was straight up superior to custom action keys if you have enough skill.

[@Essence1123]

He's using software to improve his performance, that's literally like aimbotting or TASing - using a piece of software specifically to give you an advantage over everyone else. Of course it's cheating, it doesn't matter if there's "intention" - it's cheating. Dream didn't "intend" to have mods in his minecraft runs that made them easier yet he did - that's also cheating.

[@TheSniperjet]

I’m 100% using the phrase “he’s definitely using 34%” for anything remotely cheating related in the future

[@eopo]

JNic having fun with the Beastmaker 2000 in the beginning is just perfect haha

[@CinJyxxe]

Chat's right for this one, Wirtual, you gotta stop playing with us on these terrifying finishes.

[@bdhale34]

All the "don't risk it''s trying to go for the safe finish was way more dangerous and risky than just sending it through the risky finish.

[@Iwatoda_Dorm]

Maybe the car is too unstable coming out of that last check point to quickly switch finishes without slowing down terribly. Either way, I couldn’t imagine doing that in div 1 Xd

[@endeav0r_49]

@@bdhale34 i legit shat my pants everytime wirt went for the flippyflip into "safe" finish

[@xavierdefaix]

Normally you can sleep while watching COTD's, but now my heart was racing at least 34% of the time like crazy.

[@excrubulent]

I think a better response from Nadeo would've been to unlock the potentioal of the action keys and allow players to define action keys at any percentage they wanted. Then this technique is open to all, there's no cost barrier to entry and gamepad players can use it too. It might give a slight advantage back to gamepad players since they would have both action keys AND analog input, but it seems like the fairest way to do it, and it means you don't have to deal with the effort and drama of enforcing a new rule.

[@thebestdamager7400]

The problem is that then you would need to check for every turn and every map to search for the best %. It would turn into a macro optimization game instead of a racing game.

[@canstermeat8171]

The whole idea of analog keyboard being a cheat is ridiculous, as those things are supported by the game. It's like using a arcade stick in a fighting game is somehow cheating. Nadeo should've embraced analog.

[@ayooobro]

@@thebestdamager7400 it could. but is it better to close the gap between keyboard and controller for everybody at the cost of WR attempts with KB requiring some tuning, or is it better to say "go buy a controller and learn that if you wanna compete pleb"?

[@GelberDracheLP]

@@canstermeat8171 You now it is not about the analog kayboard input... It was about that Wirtual did press the key to 100% and the keyboard did only send 34%... If he had used the analog keyboard as an analog keyboard, so he would need to press 34% to get 34% then everyone would have bean fine with it

[@thebestdamager7400]

@@ayooobro It's about macros, not the analog keyboard. Also, controller only has a very marginal advantage compared to keyboard, whereas the macros were such a big advantage, that you could immediatly notice it.

[@Heyght]

Damn, this WirtualTV guy is on a roll! Videos left, right, and center. It's so sad that his fellow trackmania creator Wirtual hasn't posted in 34 months...

[@markonikolic1386]

The fact that wirtual has to predict all these weird bounces in order to win just proves how good of a player he actually is.

[@Essence1123]

Yeah he's so good that 10% of all of his COTD wins are cheated with software help. That's like calling a bottom tier CSGO pro "good" because they use wallhacks

[@LorenzJahn]

@@Essence1123 Please delete yourself.

[@jamesmccomb9525]

​@@Essence1123 Mad because bad.

[@duseifert]

​@@Essence1123 are you sad? Who hurt you? Why are you like this?

[@Bassalicious]

@@Essence1123 Cheating is when you do something that is against the rules. You get that right?

[@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca]

Random idea: airplanes use what is called trim to adjust the pilots controls, especially in an environment where some ‘basic’ input is constantly needed. Similar idea could be implemented for action-keys: while holding a steer with action key (50% left for example), why not allow trim-keys to alter the limit by adjustments of 2%? That would require three extra keys: trim-up, trim-down and trim-reset. This would allow similar accuracy as controller has, but require that the player actually constantly adjusts the trim, to achieve that accuracy. The system would only be useful where tapping is especially inconsistent, or a small but smooth input is needed.

[@CaramelCapptn]

I remember my grandad telling me stories of wirtualTM's live bobsled win as a boy. I can't believe modern technology has allowed this masterpiece to reach me all these years later.

[@solidnitrogen4127]

I was wondering why couldn't they make steering % customizable for action keys so that everyone has access to it. Going for records requires optimization, and it should be expected that some advanced techniques are required to get the edge over others.

[@0106johnny]

Yeah, especially when this is so easily achieved with a controller

[@Bikonito]

They understandably don't want competition to be a settings simulator.

[@SleepyFen]

They easily could do this in the game's own key binding menu, but that would remove any advantage of playing with controllers. I all seriousness though, yeah, I don't think hunting maps should require fine-tuning your keybindings for every map. But the fact remains that a controller can steer at 34 % while a keyboard can't, and in a world where 0.001 seconds makes the difference between records, that's objectively an advantage that some people will have over others because they went out and bought extra equipment, even though that same argument was what got custom analoge hotkeys banned. I don't think the accusation of cheating holds any water when controller players could be accused of cheating by the same token.

[@thebestdamager7400]

One difference is that controllers are cheap, while analogue keyboars are $150+. Another difference is that you need skill to steer consistently on a controller, while wirtual used a macro, that automatically steered at 34%. The problem are not the keyboards or controllers, but the macros. I know you can also steer consistently on controllers by modifying them with notches, but that is theoretically cheating as well.

[@0106johnny]

@@thebestdamager7400 You can also use a steering wheel and mark the 34% with sharpie. Is that cheating?

[@mitch-lawless]

There’s a palpable arrogance that Wirt adopts when he’s the WR holder and I love it.

[@TechX1320]

Its not cheating *at the time* because there was no definitive statement about it from Nadeo. Honestly though, even with the rules changed, people could still do this on controller, so it was just punishment either way to keyboard players. To this day, I firmly believe controller is easier than keyboard. I proved that to myself with one of my favorite maps. I was #23 in the world on keyboard after playing trackmania on keyboard since Sunrise released on pc some 10 years ago. I switched to controller, took me about a week to get used to and I immediately jumped down to 3rd in the world within 2 hours of playing the map. Keyboard will never be equal to controller, no matter what nadeo does. The ice change was stupid imo. It just ruined a shit ton of maps and didn't really fix anything.

[@inthefade]

If and when analog keyboards become more ubiquitous they will likely revert the rule change.

[@TechX1320]

@@inthefade I don't think so. I think the best course of action is allow players to have an adjustable slider for 4 or 5 keys in the settings for setting custom percentage inputs. Even if its set to 5% intervals, that's better than the 10% now. 10% is a big gap compared to a controller. Let me set on action key to 45% and another to 65%. Having the customizable input would be a far better response than hard set inputs that are too far apart to be competitive with controller

[@Camerz]

@@TechX1320 i thought it was 20% intervals, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100. i think it used to be in intervals of 10, but they reduced the number of them

[@Chizypuff]

Are you the Tech on my Indiana leaderboards? I'm 3rd behind you currently if so

[@TechX1320]

@@Chizypuff state-wise, no. I'm in ohio

[@haph2087]

Mans saw a risky finish and was legit like "nah, I can make it riskier".

[@CraigPlant55]

I obviously understand the controversy around the 34%, and it's definitely clear that he had a slight advantage not having to worry about the steering amount in the turns, but this COTD also shows that there is more to a race than just having a macro to alter your steering, he had to make quick effective decisions, and his skill as a player was evident all throughout it. I do wonder if its cheating if its something everyone has access to, but it does also feel slightly pay to win in a game with no microtransactions to avoid that all together. Still a great watch and always love to see people succeed.

[@ayooobro]

@@iub.9893 bruh are you dumb? most of the competition are controller players and controller is wayyy faster on bobsleigh. Wirtual won because players like Elconn, micka, jxliano, ikarus etc. failed along the way. he failed too, but recovered from his fails where they didnt

[@CraigPlant55]

@@iub.9893 he did crash or spin out multiple times, he is still an incredibly skilled player, but yes I agree. I guess in my mind its similar to professional athletes, they have the ability to buy the best clothing to enhance their skills, but take away those shoes or clothes they are still excellent athletes in their own right.

[@nameless-hu4mm]

@@iub.9893 Considering that most knockouts where 4 seconds or more behind shows how incredible stupid your comment is. Also its profen that you would be faster with a controller anyway then with costum action keys, so everyone who uses a controller is cheating to someone who uses a keyboard. And yes there are actually shoes that got banned from olympics because they make you like 0.5% faster, no joke for real.

[@haxel96]

@@iub.9893 The exact angle you wanted to steer was not 34% either, it was just what worked best for him, in actuality the angle changes depending on how much speed you have. A player on controller/wheel/any analog device steering perfectly would outperform 34% steering.

[@TheLifeLaVita]

@@iub.9893 not wirtual's fault if people don't use controllers or analog keyboards. Makes no sense to give him the fault of the game being HEAVILY unbalanced towards keyboards on bobsleighs

[@qweasdzxcqweasdzxcqwe]

the electroman adventures music playing around 14:30 brought me back

[@justen7875]

My first and still only div 1 in cotd this map is nostalgic to me FeelsStrongMan

[@rorycannon7295]

congrats

[@Blackout_]

You should go get another one

[@separatereality7259]

25:29 ftwClix: yeah ill watch this later on yt. Little did he know he'll need to wait almost a year lol

[@leonardosoaresfuks294]

0:42 the shaking

[@BerniPro]

at 4:33 the keyboard taps line up really nicely with the music

[@bohitargep]

Wirtual uses custom action key with 34% steering, which Nadeo baned with a new competitive rule. To learn more google Wirtual rule 34.

[@santaclaus4104]

i love when it doesn't say if its a win in the title i get the same excitement and anxiety as if it were live

[@aeuralix]

Your content is amazing, I hope you continue for another at least 34 years

[@nixily7]

I started watching you 2 years ago. Truly an amazing moment. You deserve it.

[@StAngerNo1]

Classic Wirtual. Winning the qualifier and setting the world record and then pulling a Wirtual in round 1 to almost get eliminated.

[@syedmohdwalirizvi8985]

0:08, like a child when he gets his fav type of present on christmas

[@LeGeekzPig]

Just wanted to show some appreciation for the editor taking the time to cut out all the copyright audio except Wirtual’s voice in some of the rounds. That must take a lot of time!!

[@aclonymous]

you'd think that wirt would've taken the copyrighted songs out of his playlists by now, but screw the editors ig

[@Bikonito]

they just use an ai plugin

[@LokelyConed]

they don't take time at all, im pretty sure wirtual said in a livestream at one point that he switch to recording audio in separate channels, 1 for the game, 1 for his mic and another for the music. Doing it this way, you can just disable the sound coming from the channel you don't want. It is how a lot of streamers i know also do it

[@sbilldmilk]

22:45 An example of the rare alphabetical priority elimination. Galeniium and Whiten have the same time but Whiten is eliminated because W comes after G alphabetically lol also at 23:37 the channel outro music plays when Elconn gets knocked out. hilarious timing

[@realtimberstalker]

That was added in post. They remove copyrighted songs when they post the vods. Notice how the only sounds you can hear are from when wirtual is speaking and even then his voice is distorted.

[@trevor4530]

22:42 the fact they had the exact same time at the cutoff is really impressive

[@mohidtahir5340]

GALENIIUM's faster internet saved him

[@trilliongold]

@@mohidtahir5340 its actually Whiten's name that killed him. In TM ties are decided alphabetically.

[@mohidtahir5340]

@@trilliongold Damn, that's equally unfair. TM should add a feature where they break tie with stone, paper, scissors.

[@walterw8223]

Reporter: _"-Are the rumors true, were a performance enhancing keyboard used?"_ Scientist: _"-Without a doubt, there was 34% in the keyboard of Wirtual at the time of competition."_ Scientist: _"-This is a dark day for honest French-Swedish people everywhere."_

[@yaroslavsemenyuk4131]

Jnic absolute gigachad lmao

[@cheezyb2005]

15:14 epic jump with sync to music

[@OwDog4]

Are we just gonna ignore the guy doing pull-ups in the background in the intro

[@ThiagoJaqueta]

Wirtual: "Bobslayer they call me" Kid named Bob: 💀

[@msachin4885]

That moment the competition introduces a new rule specifically because of you

[@robertaskazlauskas98]

0:42 I was laughthing so hard when he landed and made an earthquack

[@saramorin4792]

Riolu: only cheated in 1 map? Casual...

[@alanb4756]

1:16 is the sound of cleaning glass with newspaper.

[@firedell1031]

Winning the qualifier into losing the first round would have been PEAK comedy.

[@ChristianS-z1h]

For anyone who is also amazed by the Song from 21:45 to 22:45 its "Demon (Instrumental) StreamBeats Originals" .... now i can finally finish the Cup and see how it ends xD

[@HaraHG]

Nadeo : Not patching any bug in a 20 year old game. Also Nadeo : Bans a game mechanic themselves had implemented.

[@Josh72769]

Devs in a nutshell.

[@WinterAyars]

Wirtual ACTUALLY trolling those early knockouts. Congrats on the win!

[@CSkivvs]

Hey Elensar, just wanted to say, I noticed what you did when Wirtual was playing bad music on the stream, and I thought your solution was well done.

[@ScramblePete]

I remember this COTD, outside of some 1st of Month troll maps, I did very well on this one, div 3 if I remember correctly. Not many people knew about the AK bobsleigh turns I guess

[@bluefang627]

Wirtual you stopped smelling of macaroni and now you smell of peanut butter.

[@DigitalJedi]

Yo that's me in the chat at 17:50. Never thought my first div 1 would be bobsled lol. I'm usually a dirt / grass guy.

[@roundcube2948]

Honest question - why wouldnt they just unlock the action keys in game to be set at whatever value?

[@SylviusTheMad]

They basically do that by allowing analog inputs. Since PCs can have whatever input device you like, and the game supports analog inputs, there's no way to stop people from doing with physical tools exactly what Wirtual did with digital tools. Imagine a steering wheel with a rod you could slide into place to limit maximum steering angle.

[@matikkkii3482]

Gamepad disadvantage I guess?

[@singami465]

Because people cried.

[@Trep3]

because then it would kill all the skill of this game, if you could just find the exact steering % for half the tricks that require precision and skill then whats the point anymore

[@SylviusTheMad]

@@Trep3 The fun, I think, is in figuring it out, not the actual execution.

[@letszer4520]

This is the most nervous I’ve ever been watching a wirtual video, entire knockout stage I was shitting myself

[@geddybear9108]

Wirtual: Sets WR, getting consistent runs and wins qualifier. Also Wirtual: Lets change the run last second. Why are you like this?

[@DagoDuck]

0:33 I almost died from laughing at this.

[@hexPeriod]

Midori moment

[@Encysted]

11:41 hey, that’s either the Nitronic Rush or Distance sound track :D

[@sajdak1279]

gotta love jnic's GRIND in the intro

[@colewindemuth8247]

My favorite part of the video is his roommate doing pullups. It truly inspired me.

[@drdripransom342]

Jnic putting those reps

[@ionasfinser1429]

super cool to find out that Wirtual wanted to be a film composer... I'm a film composer at the beginning of my career and sometimes wish I was a streamer lol

[@Hossdelux]

I love this map, and I remember watching this live. This'll be good.

[@Tyuf_]

❌ "who is Bob and why are people slaying him?"❌ ✔️ "who is Bobs and why are people laying him?"✔️

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

Honest question: is this keyboard doing something that you couldn't just do with an Auto Hot Key script? The thing I've been trying to wrap my head around with the change that Nadeo made was that they dropped the skill ceiling instead of bringing the opportunity to everyone to be that good, why not just allow the base game to have custom action keys? Or is there something else here that I'm missing?

[@thrls]

Action keys were 20-40-60-80 Optimal was exactly 34, which could only be achieved with scripts like Wirtual used here

[@dvst_tv]

yeah it seems weird that they wouldnt allow custom action keys, or even keys in 5% increments. Full custom could be deemed unfair to controller players.

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

@@thrls so then let players set it to whatever they want? I don't see how making an entire surface feel awful to drive on is better than letting everyone have access to tools that expand their options.

[@linsetv]

@@MudakTheMultiplier but then it's not about being consistent with what you have anymore but rather find the best percentage of actionkeys in a cotd like this.

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

@@linsetv but controller players can already do that so why kneecap the keyboard players?

[@bigpresents10]

Elconn livin rent free in wirtuals mind

[@Some_Awe]

this map makes me really really miss old ice

[@kingqball1]

I still love how on your map that you made that everyone, save for the 4 in your vid that beat your times, said was impossible could not beat even your none analog time. and only one beat your anlong time if I remember right. and the part that makes it even better is so many of them tried to do it with an analog keyboard and couldn't beat either of your times. the hole debate just proves people don't know how to cope with not being good enough since you beat all but a handful with just action keys.

[@grahamadamson8396]

A new rule called rule 34% is being popularized in the trackmania community hoping to ban the use of analog keyboard exploitation for more info look up trackmania rule 34.

[@satansbarman]

Can't help but think IF I did look that up, I'd find some really weird stuff, good troll though 😅

[@keeganshulista1446]

no comments about how at 15:14 the jump is perfectly timed with the song

[@ChonkyChonker]

WIll we ever see the return of Mufat in a Cup 🤔

[@WIKKRMUSIC]

who's mufat

[@TrevorJNagy]

@@WIKKRMUSIC Mufat deez nutz (It's a joke that was played on Wirtual and he smurfed under the name)

[@WIKKRMUSIC]

@@TrevorJNagy alas, you have played directly into my plan to let people experience the joy of Pulling a Fast One™ on an unsuspecting victim

[@ChonkyChonker]

@@WIKKRMUSIC :)

[@Lizankuka]

LOVE YOU WIRTUAL!

[@unforseenconsequense]

Looking forward to seeing Wirtual actually do a bobsleigh run IRL the man is goated

[@olivialambert4124]

The analogue keyboard ban seems a little odd to me. Controllers are allowed - ie analogue controls. It's very easy to add curves to reduce sensitivity for them just like the keyboard curves used. But even more important, joysticks can be used. You can have incredible delicacy for a joystick, mine can move nearly a foot in each direction, adjustable down to a few inches. That sort of range allows far more delicacy than anything an analogue keyboard allows, yet is still competition viable. Presumably wheels are also allowed with likely still more range.

[@wircoal]

Gotta love the flatmate doing fingerboarding in the background, get those sausages strong mate !

[@megamanlinkfan]

I don't think it should be banned from use. Its a pretty cool peace of tech and a lot of esports don't care if your setup is $5000 or $500. the top players in anything are gonna have the best gear regardless. Also this was a nail-biting video dude so many scary finishes lol.

[@maskettaman1488]

Agreed. Seems backwards to ban the next iteration of keyboards. If using a more optimal input device is cheating then using a controller shouldn't be legal either

[@dogtato]

he can still use the keyboard, which lets you do partial keypresses, just can't use software to hit specific values

[@Litruv]

@@dogtato man, that's just a case of where's the software stored at this point. We'll come up with keyboards with dials soon enough.

[@BSEUNHIR]

The way he had it set up was basically an out of game macro. That's always a no no if it gives you an advantage.

[@CaroFDoom]

@@Litruv the software for the record is stored on the keyboard itself and edited through a website i think expanding custom action keys would have been a way cooler way to equalise it rather than banning nonlinear analog input (ex. dxtweak) i cant wait for controller notches to crop up lol

[@VIOLENTxLJx]

*i think* I remember watching you change your keyboard acting key settings when you were live. bobsleigh is my favorite style too GGs in the chat

[@dathaniel9403]

This is 100% valid, you didn’t break any rules. Even Nadeo has said so. You never hid the fact that you had action keys between the default action keys, and it wasn’t against the rules when this map was played. You’re not a cheater.

[@ferrosplice8460]

Because of Wirtual using software to cap his key presses at 34% steering, Nadeo actually added a rule that using such software is considered cheating. Search "Nadeo Rule 34" for more info.

[@Kebabs300]

I see what you did there.

[@sajdak1279]

Brooo 💀💀💀

[@426shelby426]

No result...

[@Guigiggs]

The fact that this live was almost one year ago is the impressive part !!!

[@mewangabory5961]

Careful Bob, the Bob-Slayer is coming...

[@vryder]

Dobra robota!

[@th1mer581]

for anyone wondering the maps name is "tricolor"

[@URAGOOFUS]

jnic in the back Xdd

[@Embers-nd4vm]

"I didn't say he would fail" 2 seconds earlier: "knock him out knock him out!"

[@youngluck66]

He's literally using software to do something that's humanly impossible. That's no different than slowing down game.

[@Jellopuff_TAS]

No, it's completely different from slowing down the game because if you look really closely, you'll notice that he's not slowing down the game. The reason software action keys are banned is because they shift the focus away from consistent keyboard driving or precise controller driving in exchange for just having the right equipment. Sure, it's easy to see how that's a bad thing in hindsight, but it's not at all comparable to literally changing the way the game runs.

[@Vincentoist]

34% steering is literally not possible on keyboard but possible on controller, what are you smoking

[@Jellopuff_TAS]

​I'm not trying to argue that it is possible on a standard keyboard, I know it's not. What I'm moreso trying to argue here is not that custom action keys are fair but rather that they're not comparable to straight up slowing the game down. Yes, it is an unfair advantage to use custom action keys, but at least you're still viewing the game in the same way. Slowing a game down, as you would for a TAS, completely changes how you respond to the game's visual feedback. Just because both require modifications doesn't mean they're automatically the same.

[@Vincentoist]

@@Jellopuff_TAS i was replying to the original comment

[@Jellopuff_TAS]

@@Vincentoist Ah my b

[@Setrax]

The Bob Slayer! Every Bob out there: .......Uhm

[@fluffyx1676]

"The bobslayer they call me" The kid named bob: 😳

[@Lottililex]

They call me the ‘Bobslayer’ Every Bob in chat: 😧

[@dbgrfdg]

I meet my now wife during this cotd in Wirtual chat. Our son is leaving for college soon and I think I might pick up TrackMania again

[@lisashana1869]

Wirtual : "The bob slayer they call me !" Anyone named 'Bob' : x-x

[@fluffy9299]

22:58 someone predicted ELCONN would be out that round and he was right

[@ondrejcibula4542]

JNic working out in the beginning of the vid is the best😂

[@Foxstorm1604]

As an outsider, I think blaming a form of analog input and banning it while keeping others legal in the game is an incredibly stupid concept. Either ban all analog inputs or keep all of them legal. You want to do better bobsleighs? Use a controller, a steering wheel, hell get a cheap steering wheel with pedals and use only the pedals to steer left and right. Capping other people who have more money than you just because you are poor is very very stupid. So what if analog keyboards would become meta? Lots of games have a high cost of entry and that doesn't break the game.

[@didierneeferc]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Congratz!!! (Btw I love the people saying Hi KZbin in the Chat of Twitch haha)

[@shadowlordalpha]

ah yes, wirtual getting the whole community to basically riot

[@cavemann_]

That feel when cotd is so old he had to clarify it was before the drama...