I MIGHT BELIEVE IN FRFR NOW - IK ToneX Cab Review

[@jmar482]

What makes your reviews some of the best on the tubes is your “I don’t give a fuck” honesty of the products you’re reviewing. A lot of people try to sell you on something, you give us all the good, bad, and ugly and do it in hilarious fashion.

[@arfoe]

100%

[@HowardFrischer]

I love the direction FRFR speaker set ups are going in. They’re only gonna get better.

[@ReturnTheSanity]

But why would you choose one over a greenback cab/SD style power amp? Between this and the IR’s out there you can emulate any cab and you actually get the amp in the room feel and sound.

[@landonbailey]

you are always out standing. Henning Pauly 'trusting in me of of being for being with it'

[@adamcogan211]

Bro I thought I was having a stroke when I heard that 😂❤

[@Techoftomorrow]

I was out for a few yearts due to health issus, but I an back now, Good to see you still making videos my man

[@matthewdortona237]

Missing where this is worth $800.

[@greysuit17]

Why is anything worth anything?

[@mikedfurman]

Especially since they haven’t positioned themselves as a premium product either. I was excited about this until I saw the price

[@theguywithgaugedears]

It's not. He's just a KZbin shill

[@zipporaid]

​@@mikedfurman💯 I thought oh shoot it'll be a bit cheaper than the fender frfr.

[@narichey1981]

How is any combination of 10 lbs of wood, $100 of electronics, and some strings worth $3000, but lots of people running around with les Paul's. It might not be worth $800 to you, but somebody out there will want it

[@daka4711]

Thanks again Henning for your absolutely honest reviews that always point out your oppinipn about not so well done features. I really appreciate this! Thx!

[@Guitar_jd-w8x]

Releasing the cab, zero doubt a full Tonex board is coming soon. As far as "mic vs live"...that's cool ! I have to set low & high cuts on my Fractal cab blocks to get more "amp in the room" tones with my FR12...and far less PA speaker sound. It works wonders, but this Tonex makes that far easier and switchable! (Obviously). Well done Tonex.

[@Hiline1970]

Henning, you do the best reviews! Interesting, informative and entertaining and you have cost me a lot of money. After your UA lion video I got all caught up in the UA stuff. Now I have amp pedals, FRFR and tube amps…thanks..😊🤘🏻

[@JohnnyHendrix-h3c]

I don't even watch Henning for his reviews anymore, I just watch for pure entertainment cos I KNOW he will make me laugh 🤣🤣

[@mkrj2576]

Thanks for the great review and for the entertainment. Watching you is a blast. These non-tube amplification tools need to have a 7 band eq on the face. Time to realize that a three knob eq is archaic unless it’s part of a designated combo of course. New digital amps are made to play through so many different speakers in so many situations a three band eq does not cut it.

[@bgrierofficial]

This was your best video yet 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@uwedasler425]

If they make one with a Tonex One built in that can switch between its 20 presets using an existing midi controller... I will get one.

[@Chasetenny]

Bet thats next year or 2

[@uwedasler425]

@ Yep, either that or within five minutes after me surrendering and buying this one 😞

[@chrisnvrtk9273]

"For Real For Real" is actually how I read it in my head every single time I see FRFR 😂

[@peskypesky]

😂😂😂

[@billallengo]

The Fender FRFR 1-12 has been out for a while now and it’s Fantastic. Also the Laney FRFR 4-12. It’s Amazing. You should believe.

[@teerexness]

I've never been convinced that something with an FRFR label is superior to a PA speaker. Both have full-range sound, with limited tonal shaping characteristics. But PA speakers tend to be more powerful, cheaper and readily available. I usually just go straight into the house sound, but when I don't trust the sound guy to get me a good consistent monitor mix, I just grab one of my PA speakers from our rehearsal room and it sounds fantastic connected to my modeler. Just my $0.02. YMMV.

[@hereonmars]

Saaaaaame

[@rudyalexandermarquezmusic]

Yeah. As a gigging musician i completely agree. I tried headrush and all those other modeling frfr speakers but one day i tried a Ev15elx and man it was waaaay better lol

[@Juppi13]

@@teerexness FRFR is just a marketing label. Ironically, Henning made just this point a couple of years ago, thats why I would have wished he had been a bit more critical here.

[@teerexness]

@@Juppi13 This is pretty much the conclusion I've come to also. A Headrush 2500W 12 " FRFR speaker is $400 at Sweetwater. An Alto 2500W 12" PA speaker is $350 at Sweetwater. Same manufacturer even!

[@johnyang799]

​@@teerexnessimho 2500w at that price is fake or overrated.

[@nedludd3641]

Bless you for your honesty. Love your content ...and your honesty!

[@montgomery773]

How is the sound of Dream 65 Fender by universal audio

[@andreasschaefer8613]

Thank you for testing that new solution. I be curious how it sounds in comparison with the Fender Tone Master FR-12 and the Laney LFR-112, because they were also nearer to Guitar-Cabs than any PA-Speakers and Wedges.

[@AverySylvaine]

i was literally thinking (as a joke) “frfr stands for ‘for real for real’” and then you showed that on screen and i laughed so hard hahaha

[@simonB143]

It strikes me that if you have to tweak it to make different amp tones sound good, then it fails in its primary reason to exist.,.. faithfully representing what your modeller is sending to it.

[@aaronsinger]

There are vast amounts of music being played without "front of house." Guitarists and bassists playing through cabs in small venues everywhere. Here in California it is very common.

[@scottyknows]

I saw this at NAMM a couple years ago. Glad they finally released it.

[@joemcgraw5529]

so lost here is it a IR amp or a real amp Boss Katana help me understand,no I dont have a boss Katana only old amps so my thing is reliability ,so im still looking at the newer technology but very cautious because theres so many options now which is awesome but scary at these prices

[@YousefAHMusic]

Fantastic review!

[@philf4086]

I bought a Headrush FRFR about 4 years ago and I like it with both my HX Stomp and Amplitube. Seems like the FRFR industry took a lull over the last few years, now they are coming to life again. Seems odd to have EQ controls on a cab that is designed to work with modeled sounds, where the EQ should be happening anyway. Good video, thanks!

[@william7108]

Hey Henning where'd you get that guitar and what's the name of it can I get one in the US or does it come from someplace else in your region somewhere thanks let me know

[@EytschPi42]

Shabat Guitars from the US

[@Rikamortis6stringer]

Another great demo from HP42! I'm sure they will get the distortion sounds figured out. This thing sounds really good from where I'm watching. Definitely want to see what they're going to do in the future hopefully they add stereo ins and outs or offer a slave cab at a reduced price. I am intrigued! I like IK multimedia and what they're doing They're really ahead of the game and 800 bucks sounds a little pricey but maybe they will lower the price a little bit I was thinking 499 would be a lot better. Sounds like there's a lot of tech in this thing. Thanks again. As always you rocked it!😊

[@myhapylife]

It would be nice if there was an amp in this setup to compare as reference point. Or to capture a combo amp and compare that capture with tonex cab with the captured combo, Maybe an Idea for the future video.

[@teerexness]

This is a great idea!

[@rahzark]

An amp AND another frfr speaker that doesn't sound like an amp at all.

[@michaelolz]

“Tonex Cab won’t let you doooowwn!” 🎶 I have to say I’ve never heard original lyrics about a product being reviewed. 😂 Love it. Now I wish someone would do a song that coincides with Glenn Fricker’s Marshall Code review!

[@dennisbelon4475]

Sounds pretty good, better than most FRFR cabs.

[@InactiveNode]

I'll keep my Fender FR-12, but this is similar in a lot of ways. I might try it in the future if I need another FRFR speaker. The EQ on the FR-12 is perfect to tune the room you are in, and it's nice and loud. The tweeter attenuation also is a must have, since you can use it as a PA in a pinch.

[@thomascoolberth2648]

My real problem was that I really hated playing guitar out of my studio monitors. The secondary issue is now that models sound way better than anything I can possibly dial in. At this point I can sell off amps, keep one and just deal with free models uploaded to tune hunt/tone net/presets all of which 1000x better than anything I can dial in. To deal with this I bought an older Laney IRT-X. Laney has comeout with a newer LFR product. This looks good .. just deciding on what ecosystem to marry. There are so many different ecosystems ... I'm getting options paralysis. This looks like a good option.

[@MikyILdecre]

I've lost it at "option paralysis"😂

[@ultimatescalerc7151]

You can get the Alto XLR bluetooth modules and add that in the Aux port. Just pointing that out :)

[@JeffBee1]

Not really psyched about something doing additional AD/DA conversion for stuff I don't really need/didn't ask for.

[@OldSchoolSoundATX]

FEEDBACK. Ala Hendrix. That's the only thing missing in all the modeling/capture pedals. I talked about this in some of my videos on Tonex. Was hoping this cab would have rectified that. Thanks for the video!👊

[@Herrierecordsinc]

Digitech Freqout 😉

[@EytschPi42]

oh... this cab can give you feedback FOR SURE... but I just didn't want to run it THAT loud right next to me...it can get dangerously loud!

[@OldSchoolSoundATX]

@EytschPi42 Thanks for the reply! I am a big fan of Tonex, but you know what I'm talking about. You don't have to go that loud with a real tube amp to get sustained notes to quickly bloom into a nice feedback.

[@OldSchoolSoundATX]

@@Herrierecordsinc Not a bad pedal.. but not the same sounding as real feedback.. but a decent solution.

[@ScottWilder]

I do t get it. It has mojo to make it sound more amp Like. But all that should be in the profiler. So when I switch from fender deluxe to plexi what is this thing going to do? So I gotta tweak my patches to suit the cab? Or gotta tweak the cab to the patches? I’m so confused.

[@CTG-TV]

Classic marketing bullshit.

[@zipporaid]

Really wish one of these would do a 2*12.

[@usmcyounggun6879]

Laney does a 212 frfr…also a 412 for some odd reason lol.

[@ethagr8162]

lol wait who wrote/sings the unboxing song?

[@Case_]

It's AI :( Henning is using it now.

[@william7108]

Apparently you can dial in exactly the right tones and if you're using a couple of different guitars with different pickup configurations seems like you can get just about any tone you want that's pretty cool but do you have to constantly turn the knob or can you set those and use some kind of foot switch that way you can go back and forth like a two Channel head or three Channel head?.

[@MusicTherapyLaz]

WOW... sounds pretty KILLAH!!! I'm really curious how it sounds with a plethora of wet effects, like Leslie, stereo delays, etc. Seems like there's some issue with a stereo setup, and what about wet-dry-wet? Definitely going to check this out at NAMM... see you there, my friend! 🤘🎸😎❤️🔉🎶🎵

[@Jonathan-L]

Grille colour choice? Why not make the grille double sided, so it can be reversed to change the color? Is it attached by magnets?

[@matthewearl9824]

I will definitely get it to try it out, but I think having 2 positive grid Spark Cabs for way less would be my choice.

[@vasotoe]

Some pretty cool shiz right there...this is not "new" but it's somehow refreshing

[@iancurrie8844]

It seems like none of the FRFR speakers are actually FRFR. They all sound totally different.

[@johnyang799]

This is that. Also there's huge directivity thing that makes sound in the room different.

[@johnyang799]

Think of it, high end studio monitors yet all sound different. How the heck can PA speakers(which FRFR speakers really are) achieve that at fraction of the cost and being much louder.

[@GearZenChannel]

I get perfect "amp in the room" sound with a modeler. I run into the FX return of an amp and turn off power amp and cab sims.

[@EytschPi42]

Yeah, but then the convenience of the modeler is gone.

[@GearZenChannel]

@@EytschPi42 With the FM3 you can output stereo to two guitar amps with cab sim and power amps off and go USB to the computer for recording with sims on. Believe there are lots of other routing options too for live use. Also, I love my Marshall 4203 combos in stereo. 30W with two EL34s and vintage 30s!

[@iDealMedley]

what guitar stand is that at the back?

[@KennethBrown-u6v]

I really appreciate your efforts! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (mistake turkey blossom warfare blade until bachelor fall squeeze today flee guitar). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@blokkadeleider]

Seems to sound really good. Is it going to get me away from my LD 400W RMS floor monitor? Nah. That actually projects nicely through the entire room. And although that does not sound like my "normal" rigs, it just fills space with what is basically my studio/recording sound. And that is just as good for me. Even if it only has bass/mid/treble to adjust, it sounds way better than most dedicated FRFR cabs for guitar. And yes, I've tested a lot of them ever since I got my ToneX. This cab will be a great solution for many though.

[@Tigermaster1986]

The question is can I use it to play bass through it and is it loud enough?

[@rollingslothmachine3431]

If it is not rated for bass guitar, you should not risk it. Guitar amps can used as bass amps, because they are fundamentally the same, except for the sound stage and some features. But speakers have a certain range and maximum load they can handle. Bass guitars go much deeper and therefore throw much more energy into the speaker, because the lower the frequency, the bigger the power needed to produce it.

[@nedludd3641]

I wonder what you think of Synergy amps?

[@EytschPi42]

You clearly don’t know my channel well.. I reviewed every Synergy product

[@nedludd3641]

@@EytschPi42 I'm gonna have to look them up

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

I’d love your opinion on this VS the Fender Tone master Fr 10 or 12. Fender much cheaper and also has an EQ and high cut knob.

[@huskylove-666]

Sound good in your hands i m hooked. Need to try a pair in stereo. Your like the embarrassing uncle i used to have years ago. Always saying the wrong/strange stuff. And dresses from charity shop ..But still love everything you’re about 😂. And major love and hugs.

[@mattdylan664]

still not sold on FRFR's especially not at that price despite being a huge supporter of IK Multimedia gear, but i love the guitar what make/model please?

[@n3ssaya972]

Shabat Lynx

[@mattdylan664]

@@n3ssaya972 Thanks!

[@dontwan4266]

I want an Amplitube5 pedal.Tonex and Amplitube5 are incredible.Tonex amps with amplitube fx together wouid be about as good as it can get.

[@bradleywood1499]

I've tried them all. Atomic CLR MKII wins for me. I think the marine-grade plywood has a lot to do with it. It doesn't sound nasally like a wedge or typical monitor. Line 6 Powercab Plus sounded great too but sounded a bit artificially tamed.

[@martiboucat]

If you want an amp in the room and stage volume, why not use a modeller throug a Line6 Catalyst using the power amp side? You can send an IR via the Catalyst with an XLR connection

[@martiboucat]

I mean... i'm sure this sounds good but if you're aiming for a guitar speaker sound in a room, why not use that? Is that much better?

[@alvarofelipe_sepu]

Louder than Laney LFR12?

[@trevecho]

Does it feed back like a real amp?

[@EytschPi42]

Yes

[@ARPMAN]

Can you compare it with Fender Tone Master FR-12?

[@EytschPi42]

That would depend on Fender

[@ARPMAN]

@@EytschPi42 Have you tried a Tone Maste FR before?

[@RulgertGhostalker]

at some point, having a cell phone velcro-ed to your guitar will be the norm. and then, it won't be long before we start seeing touch screen pick guards.....or maybe not?

[@Crazyytrible]

FrrFrr stands for For Real For Real xD It took you 1 min to make me laugh out loud. Thanks! :D

[@richardlecomte4874]

Want to know what works better? Run your amp sim through the effects looo of a tube amp then mic the cab. Best of bith worlds. I run a dream 65 through some ordinary tube amps . I get the tube power with the fender deluxe as a pre amp. I use two.

[@Tone-Quest]

Love the ToneX Cab song!!!

[@berndkiltz]

Damn. You got it first. Who has Sample #001? I have Sample #008 ;)

[@EytschPi42]

So are you SIX better than I am?

[@iDealMedley]

if only they make these cabs look aesthetic or boutiqe enough for it to blend with the furniture in the house

[@TheAdjacents-ABQ]

The clean sounded good enough to go buy this. Then the distortion/gain increase ruined the impression. I am guessing it was better in person.

[@EytschPi42]

Yeah, you have to hear those in the room, you can’t record how they sound in the room, it’s just not possible

[@TheAdjacents-ABQ]

@@EytschPi42 Regardless I really appreciated this video. When you said modelling was better heard through headphones it struck how right you are. My WAZA headphones and even my small modeller from a few years ago are so good in the phones. Thanks HP

[@SalmiRahman]

Cool guitar stands

[@Traumglanz]

Man, I hope IK Media pays premium for that unboxing song.

[@rocinblues]

First, great looking amp. Sound, not sold, but yep lots of volume and will satisfy metal lovers. Re; the demo, heard a lot chorus, reverb, and some overdrive. However, you're holding a strat and played very little clean tones i.e. 65 Fender Reverb "ish". Not exactly sure what I thought it would sound like, but it truly sounded solid state. I still liken solid state amps to comparing any electric guitar to a PRS electric (exception DGT), PRS being soleless.

[@Mr_A_Mia]

Snuck in “always with me,always with..”😅👍🏾✌🏾

[@william7108]

Never mind soon as I said that I saw that you can save those tones that you dial in so it must have a foot switch of course I should watch the whole video first but for some reason I never do that

[@william7108]

Oh I thought that was that guitar you got from Czechoslovakia yeah I see you put the name of that one there the one you were playing in the last couple of videos

[@illgottengains1314]

Does it pass the ‘played through an iPhone while brushing my teeth’ test? Yes, I still hear music and not just dirty noise 🎉

[@MoodLiftersRushTribute]

In many venues, center fill is still not a thing. The most die-hard fans press themselves against the stage dead center, where the PA arrays aren't hitting, with the drum set smack in front of them. The PA array is behind them, blowing guitar and vocals away from them. Then they come up to you at break and say "I couldn't really hear your guitar [or vox]." We use in-ear monitors, and I would be perfectly happy to NOT have any guitar sound on stage - with it all coming out the PA, but that center fill situation is why I can't do that. I still need a cab on stage to fill in the middle. I am using Tonex live now, and I split my signal sending one path straight to FOH and another to the return of my H&K amp and cab. That gives me the beef up front, but again, I would love to ditch the amp and cab. I just can't until venues get more savvy filling the center up front. I would consider using something like this Tonex cab if it is loud enough to do the same job well.

[@HeathWatts]

I bought a Digitech GSP-5 in about 1990. I still have it. It has lots of groovy 80s sounds (so many flanger sounds!). I played it for about a month, then I bought a good tube amp and never looked back or used the GSP-5 again. Like the GSP-5, Tonex stuff seems like a trendy gimmick. I bought a Tonex One based on KZbin reviews and now it's a doorstop. Apparently, because I registered it, I can't sell it to anyone else. It will end up in a landfill soon. Tonex Software is the worst and I'm old enough to have used DOS and Windows 95.

[@h1pst3r88]

Returned my ToneX One to GC after a week of the lame software and workflow. There was no way I would spend another dollar on that ecosystem. Shame on all the YTs self-serving chorus of "it's a gamechanger" when it came out. I'm a FM3, PRRI, and OX user, and I think this new cab is cool.

[@MartinRonky]

1.5min in and I would hope to see an IR-X with it.

[@EytschPi42]

put ANYTHING in it

[@benstanfill363]

Call me a cynic, but it seems to me like companies are just shoving a ton of unneeded stuff into these to justify pricing them way higher. You’re modeler does everything, all you need this to do is play the sound loud without coloring it. All the changes you make on this can also be made on your modeler.

[@PooNinja]

Mmm who does like a big stereo ribbon. For real for real

[@AdamTheGuitarist]

Frfr

[@aamoslansikunnas]

I would just buy a monitor for like half the price but each to their own

[@stealthbum34]

I dunno, all this is getting very complicated for an old feller like me 😅 I’m gonna stick with a guitar into amp basic setup. That is a cool song though! Reminds me of the theme tunes you’d get for cartoons like ‘M.A.S.K’ in the 80s. ‘Tooone x won’t let you deeeewnnn….’

[@grantsilverthorn]

Strymon Iridium into FRFR. No deep dives into screen menus or computers (unless you want different IR's) Just knobs and switches, like any guitar pedal. Older, but still sounds great.

[@robertandre778]

it cost almost 2x the price of the Laney LFR-112 , and it doesn't seems better ...

[@EytschPi42]

you#d only know if you test them side by side, not from a video

[@robertandre778]

@@EytschPi42 sure ;)

[@donaldrobidoux4862]

@EytschPi42 can you activate the AI driven option to automatically delete stupid comments please?

[@peskypesky]

Forget the speaker...what is that beautiful guitar??

[@PaulCooksStuff]

Shabat

[@bgrierofficial]

2:39 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@guitartoneSA]

One wonders how IK can afford to send out free ToneX units and now this Cabinet to so many KZbinr "influencers"...and then we the public have to decide what's real and what's not.

[@EytschPi42]

What wouldn’t be real here?

[@Dan-of-NJ]

Digital into digital into digital...I don't know.

[@Reese_Kyle]

Agree...I mean, I get the convenience of digital, but it's getting pointless. I mean...Playing live, I would use a good in-ear monitor (directly from the modeler) and send the same output of the modeler to the PA. If I play at home, I would just buy 2 decent studio monitors to get my "tones" (stereo if I need/like). That's it. If I want a cabinet sound (at home or live), I would go hybrid or full analog. Mike that cab if I need. But getting 1.6K FRFR at home...or 800 dollars on stage...and risking not to hear myself (and still send the signal to a PA)...I don't get it. It's a simulation of simulation of a simulation, as you pointed out.

[@Traumglanz]

Now?? I thought you always thought PA speakers are useful? ;-) Anyway, good timing, I was reading about that one today, so having you playing a few songs with it might be entertaining. It's just a shame that it sounds so shit with your mic and my headphones, I might still test in store if I see one.

[@brunswicksquaremusic5905]

I hate that Boss has made the boring black cube aesthetic mainstream. Sorry, I don’t want amps that look like a VCR

[@atlantabob9544]

I am sure that the Tonex sounds better on your end. BTW, why the strange input connection type?

[@EytschPi42]

Just a standard combo jack… can be 1/4” or XLR

[@-Thunder]

That AI Nickelback song (2:56) was as good as the real thing. Interpret that as you see fit.

[@streetlegal008]

Next he's going to tell us that he believes in RFkJ

[@robertcrist3822]

Roland AC60 or Roland AC90. Natch....been here all along

[@lebroucke]

Basically a PA speaker in an amp format. I understand the appeal but personally prefers a real cb with a power amp and toFOH GETS A FEED from my board

[@mickhofman]

Have tried most the FRFR's and they are still not loud enough for band practice in a rock band, when someone gets one loud enough they will sell like crazy.

[@EytschPi42]

this one is incredibly loud!

[@teerexness]

Use a PA speaker as an FRFR. They come in all shapes and sizes and they can be very powerful.

[@guitartoneSA]

Just plug into a QSC K10 or 12. A PA speaker obviously because there's no such thing as FRFR.

[@EytschPi42]

Except for the through, the aux in and the air loading… PA speakers don’t have that functionality. I have a VERY good Pa speaker in that room and will now replace that.

[@alexdenton6586]

I believe in modeling combos

[@JohnnyHendrix-h3c]

WELL ISNT THAT GREAT FOR YOU

[@tobias_dahlberg]

@@JohnnyHendrix-h3c WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?

[@ProCoRat]

This amp just like me frfr

[@william7108]

You can say the audience a trip to the doctor to have their ears cleaned and you know how they want it well most of them some of them well hopefully moon turn it up but then you're going to get the ones of wow that's just too loud run for your life but at least you got the options slay them or save them

[@kempman9811]

Nice that you have shown the rcf 10 sma at the beginning. I use two of these ones with a kemper and the sound is awesome and yes it’s expensive. I tried the kemper cabs and they can’t reach the sound of the rcf monitors. What I absolutely don’t get is what tonex tried here. All the things that are integrated in a kemper are mixed up here in a monocab in combination with the tonex. IR loading in the frfr? Why? EQ in the cab? Why? Ir and eq is part of the rig. Done. Old technic with a „ tweeter“, why? Endless additional trouble points and endless time for tweaking. Btw, I also tried the kemper cabs in their headquater and we tested the rcf ones directly compared to the tiny and lightweight kemper cabs. The rcf sound way more better. If you have the chance, check out the rcf ones. I think they will excellent work with the fm9 or the tonex too. OK they will sound good but not better comoared with the kemper, because the kemper itself sounds better than both units ( just noted it for the shitstorm🥳🥳🤘)

[@william7108]

I like that when the band thinks you're too loud you can go hahaha you think I was loud check this out hahaha