I Miss Woohoojin

[@Fang]

JOIN THE DISCORD RAHGHHHHGDSGFA: discord.gg/ygyeqf8HJd

[@ValDADVic]

Petition to bring back the banana... Radiant or not, he was the best coach by longshot. Following his content made the rank grind fun and something to look forward to. Now, there is just an emptiness when I play.

[@Fang]

@@ValDADVic i would LOVE to see him come back with coaching content

[@MosesLeadzy]

PLEASE, hell yesssssss

[@thishandleistaken1011]

Best coach? Not even close. How am I gonna get coached by a guy below me rating wise who lies and makes stuff up? Yeah, not every coach has to play at the highest level, but Woohoojin is in a pitiful rank. Charla7an and Royalg are legit. Charla7an got radiant on 150 ping and Royalg high imm3 with Sheriff last I checked... but Woohoojin is miles below them with every tool at his disposal.

[@ValDADVic]

@@thishandleistaken1011 there are plenty of coaches that are lower skill than their students. This is found across all sports. A coach identifies deficiencies and help build a plan to fix them. Not all great players make good coaches either. Most top end players make poor coaches since their talent is just natural to them, they can articulate what makes them good. The best pro sports coaches were mid tier players that understood the xs and os and what it takes to grind up the ranks.

[@thishandleistaken1011]

@@ValDADVic Other sports have an element of physicality and a lot of coaches in other sports are fraudulent too. I'm just not gonna take advice from someone who is so low rated and unable to implement his ideas. You don't need crazy mechanical talent to rank up. So what is Woohoojin lacking? His knowledge is wrong. It's like having a chess coach who is rated super low... I don't think any are!

[@poval_]

I miss him too 😢 Im glad I could benefit and enjoy his content and community for as long as I did. His coaching got me to Immortal, and my rankup stream was the highlight of my valorant playtime. Missing the banana man.

[@Fang]

Day 1 of thanking Poval for watching this video

[@poval_]

@Fang XD Your videos are always entertaining. I think you storyboard very well, and that is what keeps me hooked. Keep it up Fang

[@Fang]

@@poval_ appreciate it! I'll keep at it 💪

[@besttiger4582]

yo you're the guy who commented everday for a year on his videos. Sad you lost ur streak, I was hoping one day I could've been vod reviewed by him.

[@HunterOWen1O]

The goat poval o7

[@MalakaiXed]

I feel like something changed with the greater Valorant community when he left

[@Fang]

Definitely a culture shift for sure 😢

[@Demonic_]

Watching tons of Woohoojins vidoes got me to immortal 2, i dont care if he wasnt radiant, taught me a ton.

[@Fang]

FELT, rank doesn't always = coaching quality

[@thecipher8495]

@@Fang I agree some ACTS are hard to grind and mental strength and luck plays some role too

[@jacobdoolan4978]

As for the point with RoyalG. Do remember he introduces himself as a ex-radient player. He's achived the highest of high ranks, and now he just does challenges to get close to it

[@Fang]

@@jacobdoolan4978 that is true, and while I'm not saying I can make radiant, I do think i can at least touch Immortal 1

[@another7674]

@@Fangyou will soon. I just don't get your insistence on Phoenix but hey it is what is. You're a very masochistic person always need to play off meta lol

[@Fang]

@@another7674 i switched off Phoenix a few months ago to play clove and got back into Ascendant haha. I like winning more than anything else i swear

[@antehman2912]

he was radiant last act again I saw him in the leaderboard

[@alienrook]

I miss him too! I never got VOD reviewed but watching his videos and streams made my util usage and general mechanics so much better (I play Omen mainly). I believe you can do it Fang! 😁

[@Fang]

@@alienrook thank you so much!

[@unnecessarytaxes6498]

How I'll put it is that every day there was always an old concept to reinforce or a new concept to incorporate. Every day there was a fresh perspective on the game and the opportunity to be exposed to a new set of scenarios and learning opportunities broken down by an expert determined to make it digestible for people. That insane consistency and ability to shine light on salient concepts day in and day out. It almost felt like the environment of a camp or a clinic where there was a unanimous focus on improvement from the community as well. Definitely had a great time learning from Woohoojin and hope that all disciplines can have educators of that caliber.

[@Fang]

This mf spittin

[@RobertRays]

BRING OUT THE LOBSTER 🗣🗣🗣

[@CommentBanana]

sata andagi

[@Fang]

call me asparagus!

[@Ridlay_]

GATORADE

[@lobsterlicker3693]

😈😈

[@JustMatchmaking]

1:29 I still remember hearing "My VoD review will take ten minutes, bet", tapping to see the VoD timer because I didn't think I was very far in it, and audibly snorting at how much time was still left.

[@Fang]

Its insane because every other one up until that point took literally 10 minutes

[@SadMach1n3]

I did hear multiple radiants say something like focus is more important to the game than you’d think. I can tell the diff between my gameplay when I’m distracted by thoughts about my day or happy ass teammates/ enemies

[@frosttree1873]

I miss Woohoojin too, never got a personal vod review, but his VOD reviews for other people and guides propelled me from being hardstuck gold 3 to diamond (and now peak ascendant 1, still trying to get ascendant 2). Genuinely everytime I watch a new VOD of him coaching someone else, I learn something new.

[@Fang]

thats why i miss his content so badddd

[@maloryna]

My year break off Minecraft to play Valorant made me grow so much as a gamer and as a person thanks to Hooj. Even now playing Minecraft, the way he coaches teaches you much more than just Valorant. The way he taught was incredible and curated to each student of his and made into concepts that can be applied in many other areas of life. Even if I no longer play Valorant competitively, I still remember and look up to him. Hope he and you are both doing well :)

[@Fang]

Extremely well said! and thank you!

[@janhoiVAL]

This was such a nice watch. I really miss the hooj streams too. bro had to quit the week i got my vod accepted LMAO

[@yoann.d3375]

Wait what he quit ?

[@janhoiVAL]

@@yoann.d3375 yeah sadgee

[@rez0n11]

i miss the banana so much i dont even play val anymore, it was THAT sad for me when it happened i couldn't bring myself to comm in game a lot for the vod requirement so i could never get a vod review, and stayed in gold, never breaking out of gold2 as the saying goes "value what you have, cuz you'll miss it when it's gone" (im gonna start val again and get out of gold frfr) (watch me get in bronze cuz of not playing for months)

[@Fang]

@@rez0n11 you got this!!! Its honestly not too difficult if you're focusing on practicing one thing at a time

[@Danreks]

I love your honesty. This vid was amazing. I just started a progression series a couple of months ago so nice seeing someone further along.

[@Fang]

Best of luck on the climb brother bear

[@Danreks]

@@Fang Yeah it's a hard road:) I just found your honest take quite refreshing.

[@fomblus7953]

I felt happy for Hooj when he was able to leave streaming in the past and continue his life, but I genuinely loved the days where I would wake up at 6 am to watch his vod reviews. He's probably the main reason I even play this mental exhausting game still.

[@Fang]

Real!! It was nice to see a new person get a review in the community every day

[@Aviven.]

Miss him too. I got from silver 3 to diamond 3 in 2 months thanks to him.. But now he stopped uploading...

[@JethroLive]

I miss his vod review content too, I learned a lot of useful shit that I would've never even thought about if it wasn't for him pointing it out. Praying he comes back one day 🙏

[@Fang]

You and me both

[@BuggoVAL]

He's the Woohoojin guy again..... He will never escape the accusations...

[@Fang]

time to cry again and be the crying woohoojin guy

[@Ridlay_]

The funny banana is the goat, he helped me so much in improving in Valorant

[@kevl4n109]

2:40 just want to comment the reason hooj is telling you to do this and the reason why royalG is a bad comparison is because royalG has proven himself to already be at a radiant level, so him casually streaming while hitting the rank is not hard for him. If you are a developing player and wanting to get better to reach that red rank, then you have to put 100% of your focus into it in order to be able to grow the fastest. Now I do want to add that its definitely not necessary, I think hooj is just telling you this because he wants you to get there faster. Streaming wont make you get worse, itll just make u reach your desired rank a bit slower, and if you are okay with that, then theres nothing stopping you from doing that. Coaches are meant to give you the most optimal route to improvement, and not streaming while climbing is more optimal than streaming and having part of your attention diverted elsewhere. Yea now that I finished that section it made it more obvious to what hooj was saying. You CAN stream and climb, but balance is important anywhere in life, so balancing a job, streaming AND trying to improve is gonna be way harder and slower than just the job and improving. As hooj said, he only has to focus on content and improving since he didnt have a job. I think the main issue here is you took it as an end all be all statement from the banana and assumed having all three would inhibit your ability to improve. but it wont, itll just make the process take longer Hooj was super fun to watch, and even though I wasn't playing that much during hooj's prime, his videos made me realize how much I love coaching and understanding the mechanics of the game. And it actually helped since in the most recent act, I was able to climb from p2 to asc 2 where I am atm in two acts. I never got coaching directly from him, but since I spent basically a whole episode just watching his coaching vids and learning the game, I was able to climb so fast once I did start to play again.

[@Fang]

@@kevl4n109 well said. I still have to figure out how I'm going to fit grinding Valorant into my current work-life balance. But I'll figure something out

[@xbm4729]

thanks to you ive ranked up to immo js from watching you get coached and the content it self is entertaining keep it up!

[@CommentBanana]

*itself

[@Fang]

i can't get immortal help

[@xbm4729]

@ its all thanks to the banana’s videos that ive hit immo i believe you can get it your a good player

[@Soviet99cat]

I was gold- plat before wohoojin's vods, i hit an all time peak of immortal 1 because of him. It doesn't matter what rank he is, his ideas and coaching are incredibly successful and it has been proven time and time again.

[@CIizd]

rest in piece i miss him eavery day ✌✌

[@SimpleBonsai]

Hey fang, i think westjett is another goat here, he literally is the only commentary channel that treated woohoojin with respect as he knew he is a good coach, saying that people shouldnt care about the drama because his product is so good

[@bench2346]

yeah westjett, very good human. not a creep in the slightest. keep idolizing toxic fuckups and see where it gets you in life, twerp

[@doctorturnip]

W content Fang, thx for video

[@Fang]

Thank YOU for watching Dr. Turnip

[@timcrnkovich4326]

i really believe he did get radiant on an alt, like he said he did. watching raze to radiant just showed me how much of an extra hurdle streaming can be, to where you need to genuinely be top 500 in the world to reach consistently.

[@LillysStrawberry]

I wish he made a video about this, it’s a concept I needed to hear too

[@Fang]

I get that its a little abstract but imo he could've totally made a video generally covering this

[@MrPowerGamerBR]

After Woohoojin stopped making his videos I feel like my VALORANT gameplay quality has deteriorated, the small bite sized pieces of potassium wisdom on the beginning of every video really made a difference, and watching a full video was a treasure trove of potassium wisdoms. Scavenging the Woohoojin VODs channel to see all of the Yoru VODs uploaded to always learn something new. If it wasn't for Woohoojin, I doubt that I would ever got to Ascendant, heck, I probably would've been stuck on Silver forever. Even tho I never got reviewed by Woohoojin (I never submitted any VODs to be reviewed heh), I have been recording all of my games for 1+ years, because Woohoojin always recommended to record your games and then go thru your VODs to see what you were doing wrong. It is very sad that he stopped doing content creation, because it really felt like he did something different compared to other similar channels that really clicked to me. In the beginning I watched Jollz VOD reviews, but they are always veeeeery shallow and he doesn't go too much in depth, watching Jollz VOD reviews is like eating fast food while watching Woohoojin was having a banquet. However I will also agree that Woohoojin not admiting that he was boosted is a bit sad (he said that he was boosted, but that he had a alt account that was Radiant that he didn't want to expose the alt account to the public... and he never admitted outright that was also a lie, the only time he kinda hinted that it was a lie, was in one of his KZbin videos talking that he was coming back to content creation) And the boost allegations did come up on one of the worst times to him because he was doing the Raze to Radiant challenge, so he was already doing something that was hard to him and, with the boost allegations, he was kinda forced to play every day all day to try to rank up to prove his worth, and I think that did take a toll on his mental a lot, and it also affected the content itself because, at least to me, while it was fun to watch him playing, it wasn't fun to watch him do that all day every day. And let's be honest here: Yes, he did say that he was quitting content creation because he was burnt out, but I'm pretty sure that he was burnt out because he put a challenge to himself to get to Radiant to prove his worth, I think that, if the allegations didn't happen, I doubt that he would have quit content creation. There were also complaints about his own personality (like how he trashed the player that submitted the VOD) but I will be honest, as an outsider I never felt like he was being disrespectful to the player , it was a "tough love" kind of situation, where yes, he was a bit tough on the user, but he also wanted the player to improve. I think there's a parallel timeline that Woohoojin just admitted up right that he was boosted, gave up on the Raze challenge for the time being, and just played ranked for fun (and to improve, but without tying "I need to be radiant or else I'm a fraud" to his mental) and continued making content creation. I wonder if some day he will come back to content creation, once a content creator, always a content creator and all of that, but I really doubt that this would ever happen, because even tho he did earn a lot of money from content creation, I think that he does earn way more working on his current job (software developer) and has way less pressure working on it than he ever did while working as a content creator. At the end of the day, he left a banana shaped hole in my heart that no other content creator has ever filled.

[@MrPowerGamerBR]

Sorry for the big fat rant, I never had the opportunity to write it all out before because I don't have a lot of opportunities to "I want to speak out about how I feel about the Woohoojin situation" lol, and this video has the same "I miss Woohoojin" vibe I have every time I play VALORANT

[@Fang]

I hear you! And I definitely echo these sentiments. The community truly didn't deserve a creator like hooj who sought out to help every player improve.

[@rocketdawg3000]

I remember seeing this vod review, and it inspired me to switch from controller to maining Phoenix (because I can never do things the easy way 😆). I miss Woohoojin!

[@Fang]

@@rocketdawg3000 its a hard life but Phoenix is pretty cool 😎

[@cammyondiscord2792]

This actually makes me so sad, because watching this video with Woohoojin's input on your gameplay was even helpful. It just shows the impact he can have on everyone's games. Specifically about Fire Boy though being inherently bad. I switched from playing KJ to playing Phoenix and actually started seeing my self climb in a whole Act (Silver 3 to Gold 3). Playing duelists has been really fun and I think the reason I even chose Phoenix to start with was BECAUSE of the fact his util was really simple to get into as a duelist and that I'm more of a brain over aim player. Being able to think about the game more than which ability I need to use was definitely a plus for me. But, I definitely understand why fundamentally, there are better duelists. I'll stick with him though while learning another duelists. I don't know who yet but this was very informative!! I need Woohoojin back :(((

[@Fang]

@@cammyondiscord2792 he's still good and imo you can even make radiant with him no problem. I just think he's the most limited duelist rn

[@otysafiry]

His content and advice really was top tier. I understand wanting to get out after the backlash and his feeling he couldn't take time off (I feel like fans would have been fine with him doing this though...) As a coach, his rank didn't matter there are VCT coaches who aren't even immortal, but their minds are their strength that propels pros to the top.

[@Fang]

I think mans also just got the wakeup call that being a fulltime creator just wasn't for him given all of it's difficulties. I'm def crying because it's over, but I'm also smiling because it happened.

[@otysafiry]

@Fang oh I he realized it wasn't fully for him, and I'm in full support of him going back to what he did, but hopefully when he's fully settled in to that he can grace is with his potassium knowledge again.....just not a daily thing. Wishful thinking XD

[@kimeu9774]

As a fellow Phoenix main and someone who got to the rank with the help of his coaching, I just want to support you on your grind to Immortal by leaving a message here. Anyway, I was hardstuck immo1 after like 2,000 hours on the game. After I watched multiple of his videos, I changed my perspective of the game, put in efforts, and eventually hit Radiant. He did make an impact on the community for sure and I hope he is doing well.

[@Wintermu7e]

You're not alone Fang :) I can relate to this video so much, only It's 10 times worse with me :D

[@andrewapoll0]

babe new fang vid dropped

[@miguelleite2051]

He's live one hour later, all heil god FANG

[@lachlanteh4313]

On the thing about streaming: RoyalG is like a radiant/ex radiant player and hes basically smurfing while streaming. No shade but you are probably not near that level where you can stream and focus on game because you are not smurfing your games. At least in my experience, the less distractions the better. When all i have to focus on is each round I am able to assess and think more critically of what I need to do to win. If I spent my buy phase talking to a chat then I wouldn't be using that time that could be more effectivly allocated to planning what I am going to do in a round on a deeper level than just where I start and take first engagement. Of course, it's your game and your stream, so if it makes you happy, then do it! Its just that in my understanding at least, no stream equals less distraction and more crirtical analysis of how you play the game, which could help give you that extra push to immortal. Good luck with the grind!

[@Fang]

I hear you and this is a very good point

[@meokga]

I love woohoojin watching his videos majorly helped my game sense ❤

[@TraeBaldwin]

Dope video!

[@overtasked618]

I MISS HOOJ MAN. Without him i guarantee i never would have hit immortal. My GOAT.

[@Ribcut]

3:15 yea I definitely thought he said something else there

[@YungGoatBeats]

Please come back Woohoojin. I miss his content so much too

[@somedood9989]

I loved watching woohoojin. Frankly if anyone knows any channels who do good vod review content id love that.

[@Fang]

Od26 is a personal pick of mine

[@evilsdoom2606]

You can try slayerkey too.

[@robynublind]

LETS GO NEW FANG UPLOAD!!

[@willnewell9242]

top 1% is still top 1% he has proof he can coach some best coaches on esports teams arent as high ranked or have as much time in game as the players but they do understand how to teach the game and how to get their point across to players

[@academicq]

Okay hear me out... I miss Hooj too, but only his youtube content. I've been a long time member of community and I'm proud to announce that I've seen how it began. But I feel he really changed as time passed. The discord community that I once enjoyed got from friendly, helpful and comforting to borderline gestapo-regulated gas chamber. Hooj started to let himself get really frustrated when he started streaming ranked (that I can forgive, ranked can be a bitch) but his VOD reviews sometimes became nothing short of a roast of submitting person which drove me away from his streams and community. I'll also note that discord chat started to get regulated and people being restricted/banned for long time for having opinion opposing to streamer which is IMHO unacceptable for community that really wants to be good & friendly. I know Hooj made a video addressing these because I was not the only to feel the wind of change but yeah... He did it only after his squeky-clean reputation started to burn. So I really feel like him taking a step back is a very mature and calculated decision. I'm sure he'll take his time and probably after good pause will slowly come back to a bit of a content creation. P. S. His youtube content was and probably will for a good time be miles away from any coaching content out there. First time venting my thoughts on the situation by the way. Peace out.

[@TopRadiantPlays]

Haven't even watched the video. But honestly. It feels like a part of my life is gone now that Woohoojin's gone. I can't even enjoy the game as much as I used to even though I wasn't 100% following his guidelines.

[@Fang]

@@TopRadiantPlays he really was a huge figurehead in the val community

[@fores7ght]

me too bro. part of the grind was whj. i couldnt bring myself to rank push aft he left

[@beem8606]

My man really advertised his KZbin channel during Hoojs Livestream

[@Fang]

GUILTY as charged :3

[@zasko_II]

YES FAN9S!! Smash it :)

[@Fang]

Dude huge fan I've listened to all your albums

[@UnderGun81]

Good video, very interesting points, but remember one thing: he brought it on himself, there's no one else to blame for his actions or his words. When the truth got exposed it's pretty naive to think the internet will have compassion. Hope you hit your goal and everything gets better, lots of luck.

[@Fang]

@@UnderGun81 Its sad but I agree for sure. Still I think he just didn't have the drive anymore to do vod review content. Thank you so much also for the kind words

[@UnderGun81]

@Fang I agree with that part for sure, I know last couple of vod reviews/ streams would be very volatile depending on the questions asked, it's very disappointing because he was one of the best educational creators for the game

[@Fang]

@@UnderGun81 Hoping for a comeback for sure!

[@Rozdym]

mee too i ranked up like from bronze to gold 3 just from watching him :(

[@nathanhollow0]

sometimes i feel bad but then i remember hes at his cushy remote cybersecurity job making 20k a month so i bet hes chillin lol

[@Fang]

@@nathanhollow0 you'd be right on that one hahaha

[@MiniShoey]

rent due new woohoojin video

[@Frqstie]

I recently reached immortal playing almost exclusively phoenix. Icebox is sooo awful for phoenix, id play reyna whenever I got icebox. Sunset, bind and lotus always felt so easy to play because I had such a good playbook for them, ascent and haven was a little inconsistent though.

[@ImpossiblyPyro-pigeon]

as much as I felt betrayed by the deceit, I ultimately returned to "he's still a good coach who makes learning fun." He obfuscated his rank because of the gaming community's quick knee-jerk reaction to shut down any education if it isn't spoken by the top .1% of players. I am in a rather large collegiate skrim server, and the general consensus among us coaches is that he's very good at educated explanations.

[@PeakXV]

Bro its crazy i watch this video then instantly queue into woohoojin playing valorant (in low asc cuz im not good enough for immo)

[@XtergoBlue]

Fr :( I hope he sees this

[@neophyte_tpk]

PHX BUFFS INCOMING BRO DW

[@Fang]

LET'S GOOOO

[@robinrathorr]

i love fangs thicc eye brows

[@dusky5531]

FANG ILY

[@Fang]

💙❗

[@benjaminchen4367]

Woohoojin glazeeee I miss banana vod reviews

[@noodlespwn42]

wasn’t radiant but still better than 99% players. while it was wrong to lie initially, i get it. hopefully he just gives it time then makes a comeback. that would definitely work out

[@Fang]

@@noodlespwn42 agreed!

[@HunterOWen1O]

W content goat

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Wohoojin gets demonized for lying about being Radiant, meanwhile Neace tells you to last hit cannon minions and people happily pay like 250$ for it. ppl are weird.

[@Shrizzlez]

WE MISS WOOHOOJIN

[@TheRoyalSaiyan]

Im not going to lie. I feel like the valorant ranked environment has been deteriorating eerily in line with the absence of the banana. Need more positive creators in the space again giving helpful and intuitive advice. He helped my gameplay so much just through his videos. Bring the whooj back!

[@Fang]

Val is highkey pretty hard to coach effectively i feel, but you should check out od26 his coaching is hella good vibes

[@TheJackson4eva]

I think you understand whats wrong with what he did, but he used being radiant to make himself credible and he was even being elitist about being radiant to his viewers. I like woohoojin but it's incredibly weird.

[@Sukai_lol]

Me to man😢

[@jonas314ano]

ive stopped ranking up since woohoojins gone

[@drewbdoo_]

Me too buddy.... me too.

[@Fang]

:(

[@drewbdoo_]

@Fang but at least we have the friends we've met along the way ❤️

[@RYUU.kij1]

Fang more like SEN bang

[@Fang]

I hope to be 10% the controller player that bang is

[@GoCrazyJax]

Gg played with you on split just now I was cypher 10/31/2024

[@Fang]

^ This guy carried the hell out of me shoutouts!!!

[@genn8062]

I miss the potassium knowledge

[@thishandleistaken1011]

Phoenix is not an ass character at all. He just doesn't fit into most pro team comps (he's still used sometimes even by pros btw). He's amazing in ranked. Why play an agent that you think is ass? Play a different one. Quit the victim complex. People who say their mains are underpowered are the most annoying people ever.

[@Fang]

Check out my tracker brother I'm way ahead of you

[@thishandleistaken1011]

@@HaydenDom facts

[@mamtamishra4979]

Sir , since split and Pearl are back in map rotation and you said when a map comes back you make premier guide , So Can we expect Split and Pearl Premier Guide anytime soon pls response

[@Fang]

I am not woohoojin I am diamond 3

[@10Locust]

Me too Fan9, me too. 😢

[@lovehellmusic]

Id like to think he's on his alt account, getting to radiant

[@Fang]

maybe...

[@hahahahahha8458]

2:46 because Royal G is already a literal pro coach. You're still learning

[@Lord.Cursed]

Tell 'em to bring out the red rank

[@Fang]

🦞🦞🦞🦞

[@user-lx1pe5up7l]

He should refund the people he coached under a lie, even if he helped them. People paid him because they thought he was a higher rank than he was and he used that to get money. Basically scamming them. He can come back once he’s done that

[@Fang]

His coaching was always free iirc

[@poosch]

I love your vids

[@Fang]

@@poosch thank you so much! :)

[@Ratbane]

Fax. Woohoojin the goat 🐐

[@yigamooo]

i rather get coached by him, than a radiant player tbh

[@pompom05691]

He became gradually more and more passive aggressive and resentful towards the community. Trust me I don't see a problem if you acknowledge your a regular piece of shit gamer like any of us and continue your streaming. I think the problem was he was acting as if he was somehow morally superior and generally acted so fake it pissed the whole community, No I'm not talking about his safe space, regulated, lame discord chat. The general community got fed up seeing his egotistical rise. Anyways I have some soft spot for him because I understand in the end we are all humans and we all do horrible things so its fine. But his community never condemning him and continuing to bootlick him made it so he never saw the issues with his behavior. You can't have both. You can't be a egotistical fraud and have a loving community. I say we let him have his life in the way he feels happier. Go look at better a coach someone like Charlatan. He never pretends to be fake. I followed him since the start of valorant. Why everyone loves charlatan? Because he is a genuinely good dude. But I cannot say the same from seeing Hooj act throughout his career. I wanted to Hooj to succeed so yeah here's my rant.

[@Fang]

Ehhh I feel like this is a reach. While I can't disagree with EVERYTHING you said here, its a massive overgeneralization to say he was never condemned, I spoke to a lot of people who stopped supporting him and even gave him some backlash after he got aired out.

[@pompom05691]

Well it is after all my opinion. I might come across this opinion 6 month later and cringe at this but for now I feel that way

[@Mezurashii5]

I never cared about him being radiant or not because I didn't even know he claimed to be a radiant. I did mind how quick he was to antagonize his viewers and sometimes students and acting like a god, with 78 step requirements for him to even consider giving you advice. It also felt bad seeing him happily manipulating teammates and talking behind AverageJonas' back while queing up with him on stream. Just sociopathic behaviour honestly. I hoped maybe the whole drama would trash his ego and make him notice those things as well, but instead he just popped out of existence. Oh well.

[@evilsdoom2606]

Genuinely interested cause i didnt notice it. Hiw did he manipulate his team mates and what did he say behind average jonases back?

[@Mezurashii5]

@@evilsdoom2606 With Jonas it was shitting on his merch and gameplay while being positive in VC. With teammates it was similar, he specifically praised people who were fucking up or pretending to befriend the guys who were the most toxic to him. It wasn't a "kill them with kindness" kind of thing, it was genuine gaslighting.

[@Fang]

Imma def need proof on the jonas shit because I've never heard that ever before

[@Mezurashii5]

@@Fang I don't care enough to dig through every stream vod to find the right timestamps lol. You could use the timeline of when Jonas announced his mousepad to find the vod of them queuing together if you do.

[@-CornDawg]

I only watched one vod of that woohoojin guy and noticed mf is bull shtter right away. I have that power to see through the bs.

[@Fang]

@@-CornDawg he is genuinely a good coach

[@-CornDawg]

@@Fang Idk how to feel about ppl who hire coaches if they not even planing to go pro.

[@Fang]

@-CornDawg his coaching was free at the time and imo its okay to receive coaching no matter what level you plan on reaching, sometimes we want to be skilled at our hobbies and coaching is just a streamlined way of receiving advice

[@SajaiAU]

I am the first and I am the best also wake up honey Fang uploaded

[@somerandom3291]

hi honey

[@Fang]

YES!!!!!

[@MosesLeadzy]

ME TOOOO :(

[@Dark__Aspect]

I think we all do :(

[@Sg190th]

If only he didn't lie :(

[@Fang]

sometimes we make mistakes and we are only human

[@yigamooo]

Fang you need a discord, I would love to be part of your community and maybe help you get out of debt 😭

[@Fang]

I have one! Check the description :3

[@Ordikalrd]

Why do you talk like he stopped streaming and making content ? He's still streaming and updating video, did he stop for a while ? I didn't see what happens recently, expect the part where he was getting boosted but that was a while ago thought

[@Fang]

He stopped actively making vod review content :(

[@jacobparable5366]

Did Woohoojin stop making content? Why is everyone acting like he’s gone? He uploaded two weeks ago?

[@Fang]

@@jacobparable5366 he stopped actively making vod review content

[@MrPowerGamerBR]

Those new uploads are old VODs that weren't on the main channel yet, one of his editors decided to go thru old VOD reviews that weren't edited yet, edit them, and post to the main channel

[@indi1555]

Streaming negatively impacts you because you haven't yet proven you are at the skill level of RoyalG, who has hit radiant multiple acts. It is objectively easier to rank up while not streaming and you have yet to prove that you can hit immortal off stream, let alone while live.

[@Fang]

I don't think I'll ever be the skill level of royalg My point moreso is he can maintain his rank while streaming, not so much his rank itself

[@indi1555]

@@Fang I'm not really pointing to his rank as a radiant, but instead his proven CONSISTENCY to perform at that level across multiple acts. He has put in an insane number of hours into the game to the point where concepts that you struggled with (like in this video) are not issues at all in his gameplay. You have yet to prove your consistent improvement off stream is all I'm saying. RoyalG as the liberty of streaming because he already intuitively understands and has ingrained in his memory the game at a level of depth that you still need to actively work on.

[@hahahahahha8458]

1:07 it's possible you just don't want to put in the effort. And that's respectable.

[@Fang]

Can you name one radiant player that ISN'T a pro or streamer with a full-time job, relationship, makes their own content

[@hahahahahha8458]

@@Fang my friend. He's radiant in APAC his username is KISS. He has a full-time job and a relationship and runs an Instagram 3D animation page with a consistent posting schedule

[@Kirutajogero]

real

[@lianqq920]

i miss hooj :(

[@Fang]

@@lianqq920 you and me both

[@Goof_Quad]

"the problem is, you have a job" 😭 Proof that all Radiants are unemployed bums