I NEGOTIATED for a NEW TRUCK & this HAPPENED

[@adan342]

That’s an awesome price, congratulations. I would have want the coyote engine myself. But the 2.7 is good too.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Thanks! I love the truck so far. I believe there is no substitute for cubic inches but this thing might change my mind!!!

[@AudioFileZ]

I've been looking lately. On their websites many show a bottom line w/ delivery price that is before taxes, title, and BS doc fee. That price is the "come-on" and is purposely lower than about 98% of buyers will be able to get. In other words it is a "fake" price for almost all buyers. Plus dealers are charging up to a grand for the BS DOC fee and they'll hem and haw when you say it's a bogus added charge trying to convince you it is something like a mandated charge (the only thing mandated is the fact if they remove it for one buyer they can be sued for not offering the same removal for all buyers...but it's hard to prove since you usually don't know any other buyers)...BASICALLY DOC FEES ARE ADD-ON BS FEES. So a truck they bottom on their website is nothing more than a lie price wise. What an industry. You can't trust 'em as far as you can throw 'em.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Yep. If you are not a skilled negotiator or a patient person willing visit at least three dealerships, hire someone to help you!!! Always talk OTD price and if the dealership won’t, walk because they are not dealing honestly.

[@timlargent1063]

Lol better than a 5.0, your funny😅

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Thanks for watching!

[@HaughtKarl-jx9vr]

Trucks were never meant to cost $65K.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Agreed! The STX package retails at $48,225. There is a lot of features to enjoy and it is FAST

[@joyofnft8084]

I have been looking at 2024 F-150s. I drive a paid off 2023 Ford Maverick Lariat. You kind of talked me out of it. The only way I would do it is if I paid cash. The interest rates are a deterrent. I don’t think I want to part with that much cash for a depreciating asset.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@joyofnft8084 the interest rate is stupid. We accepted it to get all rebates. We have the money to pay it off when the first payment comes due. Calculations show $57 of interest to get $3500 off. Definitely keep what you have if its paid off

[@joyofnft8084]

@@RonKnowsStuff Did you use a personal offer for $2000 off a F-150 to get your price? I got a mailer and code for a personal offer.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@joyofnft8084 no! I didn’t get one of those!!! The biggest discount/rebate was because it was a “courtesy vehicle” with 850 miles.

[@scott4036]

Whenever I call a dealer about a vehicle I’m interested, more times than not they say that it’s just been sold. Same with friends. I’m starting to think they just do a bait and switch and nothing they say is on the up and up. That’s my gut feeling as its laughable at how often that happens.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

I agree! Just get them in and we’ll sell them what WE want not what they want - seems to be the attitude. Problem is they aren’t good sales people and don’t understand match talk (a basic sales technique).

[@Kil7witch84]

And you can also rebuy the warranty before 120k to extend it again instead of buying a new vehicle again.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Oh that’s interesting! I’ll have to look into that

[@jamesjohnson5825]

They wouldn’t on my raptor….

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@jamesjohnson5825 raptors are awesome beasts!

[@justinbadalamento1082]

Will you do a review of the vehicle itself and how it performs overall? Normally a Toyota guy but thinking about a full size truck Ford seems like you can get a better out the door price.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Good idea. I haven’t bought a domestic brand in twenty years so I’m quite excited about it

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Welcome to RonKnowsStuff. This truck is fast! It will turn mid13s in the quarter mile. My 87 Mustang GT would turn 14.7! Times have changed! $48,225 + $899 dealer fee + $400 tag/title/doc fee + $2943.50 tax = $52467.50 -$6500 trade value - $34,100 OTD price = $11,867.50 off MSRP or 24.61% off. How’s that?

[@HarryHackney]

I'll tell you what else has changed -- pricing! $48,000 for a Ford pickup and it isn't even a King Ranch!

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@HarryHackney The STX package has everything we wanted but heated seats. It is nicely equipped AND will do the 1/4mile in 13.6 seconds while averaging 19.4mpg which should improve once broken in. There is a lot of tech in this beast and based on others, is a good value

[@HarryHackney]

@@RonKnowsStuff I get all that. That's usually what I look for -- a vehicle with everything I need but without the expensive gimcrack that adds profit but not much value (e.g., embossed King Ranch logos on the seats). I'm just flabbergasted a midrange Ford pickup runs close to $50,000. And I'm totally gobsmacked by light duty pickups north of $100K!

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@HarryHackney it seems the executives are tripping on something, doesn’t it. My first house in the 80s was a 2/2 with 1 car garage for $48,000

[@HarryHackney]

@@RonKnowsStuff Our first in '87 was a $60,000 townhouse with no garage and about 990 square feet. Even back then east Fort Lauderdale wasn't cheap.

[@andrewmangels5577]

The story the dealer told me is that the warranty starts when the vehicle went into service, not when it gets titled. I wonder who is wrong.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Into service is when it is titled. It is sold as new with a 36,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. I bought it with 800ish miles on it and that’s what all the paperwork reflected. I read all documents before I signed and did not let them summarize them for me. I trust no one but my wife with our money. Thanks much for watching and commenting!!

[@andrewmangels5577]

@@RonKnowsStuff I don't know how your deal was different than mine. but when i was looking at buying a leftover "new 23 f150" it had also been used as a courtesy vehicle. also about 800 miles. It was a different dealer that i was looking at buy a 24 f150 from that told me the warranty started when they put it in service as a courtesy vehicle and I should get the 24 f150 from them for that reason. when dealership with 23 f150 was confronted about this they confirmed that statement. these dealerships were veterans ford in tampa and bradenton ford. bradenton still has the truck. ultimately I still haven't bought because the process is so frustrating.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@ it’s ridiculous how much crap you have to go through to buy a depreciating asset. I went to Ford’s warranty website. It is the day they put it into service as a loaner! I’ll have to reread what I signed. Mine was built 3/2024 and I bought it in August so it isn’t much of a difference- I doubt I’ll have any issues though. It is a great truck

[@nealharris8542]

Your right the 2.7 ecoboost is the best engine. It's made out of an iron block.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

I did a lot of research before I settled on this one to buy. Thanks for confirming!

[@justinbadalamento1082]

Never been a fan of turbo and how they overwork the engine. However in today’s world where the options for a reliable vehicle with V8 are disappearing this specific model seems like the best option.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@justinbadalamento1082 it’s like you read my mind!!! Now. Let’s go spin some donuts!

[@Upracefan]

It was a good choice until 2018 when they put a rubber belt to drive the oil pump in it.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@UpracefanThe newer Fords and GMs are great vehicles if you get rid of them before 100k miles.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

It’s illegal for them to require maintenance by certified mechanics vice DIY to keep a warranty in tact.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

I tend to agree with that but I don’t want them to have an excuse not to cover any issues that may appear. I will keep you posted on any issues- so far none but we’ve only put 1,000 miles on it.

[@EricLotten]

No it’s not legal. There is what is called the right to repair act. The dealer does not need to do the maintenance , you can do it your self if you want. You just need to save your receipts, In case something happens, and you need warranty work done. The dealer does need to do the warranty repairs.

[@jamesavakian4977]

I ordered a GMC with 5.3L . MSRP was 58k. Paid 47k. Nearly 20% off. When you order a truck, you only pay for what you want. If I ordered the 2.7l it would have been much less

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Great information! How long after ordering did it take to come in?

[@patricklong5170]

Ron knows a lot of stuff and now i know a little more stuff. Coco getting kibble

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Right on! She’s snacking on kibble now and says THANKS!!!

[@johngarner9929]

91K F150s with the 2.7 are being recalled for engine failure - good luck with the truck.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

That’s for the 2021-2022 model years. I watched KZbins on this version and all indications show it will be very reliable. The changes made include port AND direct injection along with intake valve material changes.

[@pl1098]

We are ready for a ride anytime!

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Better bring your helmets! We are gonna fly!!

[@GregVT]

Congratulations Mr. & Mrs. RKS!!! I'm local so I know what dealer it was just by the $0.00 dealer fee....but I won't tell 😁

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Thanks for watching!!! Actually it was a little drive to Key Scales Ford. They did have a dealer fee but it was in the price. -

[@GregVT]

@@RonKnowsStuff Holy poop! I was wrong then. I thought for sure it was Mullinax! Well, again, congrats on a really nice truck. Thanks for detailing all the specifics of the deal for us.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@GregVT I am as shocked as you!! I am a fan a Mullinax’s business model. Key Scales is a family owned one location dealership. That have shorter business hours and have a real family first atmosphere

[@jamesrecknor6752]

I was sold when my dealer told me they would reduce their donuts and hotdogs fee from $1995 to $995, and "we can get financing for ANYONE, even YOU!"

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@jamesrecknor6752 LOL! A good donut truly is worth the extra fee though.

[@jiggidyjam]

How much was the extended warranty?

[@RonKnowsStuff]

$2100 - with all the electronics, I felt it was worth it. Normally, I don’t buy them

[@jiggidyjam]

@@RonKnowsStuff I’m sorry if you told. I watched I promise lol. What’s the terms? Mileage and time. Thanks alot

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Bumper to bumper 10yrs or 120,000 miles and lifetime power train. The cost was actually $2500 according to Mrs. RKS. Thanks for watching !

[@jiggidyjam]

@@RonKnowsStuff wow that’s pretty good then. I definitely think that will pay for itself.

[@MrNguyenm3]

The baby turbo is better then the world famous coyote 😅😅😅

[@RonKnowsStuff]

That’s what I’m thinking too. Gas mileage is pretty good and the thing is peppy! We are getting close to 3,000 miles on it and will post a review of it shortly. Not gonna lie, we are pleased so far.

[@Koogz406]

What makes it famous? It's only "famous" because ford finally made a v8 engine that can go 150,000 miles. So what its famous for actually working that's it.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@Koogz406 I had a 5.0 back in 1987. It was a beast. Water pump went out at 80,000 miles. It was in a mustang. I did everything in my power to blow it up. What fun I had!

[@jimmyneutron3055]

I have a 2020 f150 stx with the 2.7/ 10speed. Paid 35k otd brand new in north georgia during 2021 but it’s a super cab. I have 55k miles and it’s been super reliable. I change the oil myself @4000 miles and sometimes at the dealer for $50 the works package. I had to replace the tires at 40,000 miles. I love how it rides and it drives like a car. The 2.7 is very peppy for a v6 and is faster than the 2003 f150 v8 I owned which had 1,020,000 miles. Everything still original from the brakes to the batteries. Gonna be draining and replacing the transmission fluid at 60,000. My entire family owns Toyota/ Lexus and back in 2021 was thinking about a tundra but they were too expensive at least $10k more for 15mpg lol. 2.7 gets 22mpg combined

[@RonKnowsStuff]

What a great experience to share! Thank you!! I plan on oil changes every 5,000 even though it has an oil life monitor that says otherwise. Good reminder about the tranny fluid. So far, we are loving our F150. Thanks again for the information

[@J.Zealuis]

Where did you get the tire warranty? Like even if they dont install it thy can give you a warranty

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Discount Tire is the chain I went to. Just call around if you don’t have one near you. Truck comes with a full sized spare so I can bring it in if traveling

[@georgegould667]

You may of said but I didn’t hear what interest rate you paying through ford and for how long ? Thanks

[@RonKnowsStuff]

8.49% for 48 months got the biggest rebate. I would refinance with my local lender if we hadn’t saved enough to pay it off when the first payment comes due. $54 of interest saved us thousands. If paying off or bank finance rates weren’t favorable, lessen the rebate will get a better rate from Ford. We wanted the best OTD price so interest rate didn’t play into it.

[@georgewashington7574]

8.5?!?! Buddy……why??? Woof

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@georgewashington7574 to get the full rebate. I saved up so I’m paying cash for the entire purchase. I financed $5000 just to get the rebates.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@georgewashington7574coco says woof back

[@georgewashington7574]

@@RonKnowsStuff makes sense now. I was worried you were financing the whole purchase at 8.5%, which would be financial suicide. Wise to play the game that way. 👌🏼

[@Edward-Norton]

Is this a 4wd or 2wd?

[@RonKnowsStuff]

It is 2WD. We have 2,300 miles on it so far and love it (after we added the running boards).

[@Cc7140]

I like your negotiation skills!!!

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Thanks! I wouldn’t be able to do this without Mrs RKS! We make an amazing team!!! So happy we found each other

[@rudyperezjr4815]

Love my F150 2.7 ifs great on fuel and great power. I used this for my daily driver . Go Ford.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

My research shows it is one of their more reliable engines. Glad to hear a first hand experience!! Thanks!

[@adrich86]

Any chance it was Parks Ford in Wesley Chapel? That where I got mine a few weeks back. Sticker was 54k and I got it for 42k out the door. I did get the tire and wheel warranty though. I had it on my last car and it was well worth it. Never had to buy a set of tires. Something would always happen and I get a new tire covered by the warranty. Granted my tires never had the same tread life left on them.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

It was Key Scales Ford in a town called Leesburg, FL. It was a little drive for me but well worth it. Congrats on your purchase! Well done!!

[@adrich86]

@@RonKnowsStuffthanks for making the video. Most people think I’m lying about the price I got the truck for. The good deals are out there. Problem is most people don’t know how to negotiate and immediately fall into the trap of discussing monthly payments. Talk out the door pricing first, don’t discuss payments or trade ins before out the door pricing is settled. When the sales guy brought us their first offer I straight up told him to walk away for a few minutes so my wife and I could discuss the price. Each offer they brought us I would tell the sales guy to step away and give us a minute. Completely changes the power dynamic when negotiating. Remember folks, you don’t need to buy their Truck but they need you to buy their truck.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@adrich86 exactly! There is a car sales coach Andy Elliott on KZbin. I recommend watching him so you can see how the other side thinks. I was in sales for many years prior to being a director of government purchasing, that gave me the edge. Well done again on your purchase!

[@Jeffrey7348]

Live in Florida too, what dealership, all i come across is crooks, um willing to travel for a deal.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

In Central Florida. Look at Key Scales Ford. Mullinax is usually pretty good too. Let me know if I can help - my email address is on my KZbin page

[@josephfry8849]

These engines are failing. I would have done some more research on these turbo eco boosts. Your new truck is about to be recalled.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Oh no! I plan on doing ownership updates for the first few years- maybe all 15 years I plan on owning it- unless it dies before that. So far, we are really impressed with it

[@frankvanfossan]

Better than a 3.5 LOL

[@RonKnowsStuff]

That’s what I read too

[@svtnick5412]

Maybe im confused but I don’t see any discounts. Looks like you paid asking price.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Truck is MSRP $48,225. We paid taxes and everything $34,100. We did trade in a 2017 Kia Sportage LX with 102,000 miles worth about $6500.

[@svtnick5412]

@@RonKnowsStuff so you paid 40,600 for a previous year model truck that was used as a loaner.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@svtnick5412 the truck was built March 2024. It is a 2024 F150 STX. It was a loner with only 850 miles on it the outdoor price of $34,100 includes all taxes fees and trade-in. Kelley Blue Book shows trade-in value at $6500. I hope that helps.

[@ossmann89]

Stick? I didn’t know they still did that

[@RonKnowsStuff]

I was wondering if anyone caught that. Words are hard sometimes- it is the tried and true 6 speed automatic - wouldn’t that be great if they still made a manual transmission? I learned to drive on a 1966 Chevy with three on the tree!

[@jamesrecknor6752]

@@RonKnowsStuff Impala/Caprice, Malibu, Nova, all the 66's were nice.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@jamesrecknor6752 I’m embarrassed to say I had a 1976 AMC Gremlin X - not embarrassed to say it had a 305 V8 and Levi denim interior

[@braut34]

No matter what deal you made you over paid. Depreciation in the first year is more more than they gave you off the truck.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

I am amortizing it over a ten year period so the depreciation is moot. Secondly, I wanted to make sure I didn’t get a used Repo! Thirdly, I wanted something that was or would be well maintained. BUT I do agree with you, depreciation is a killer.

[@billscott6819]

Dammmmn what a pain in the ass fumblin around for a farted in vehicle. I like to lease and keep it fresh, for me it's worth it. Enjoy owning it ha

[@RonKnowsStuff]

With only 850 miles, I didn’t smell any that weren’t my own brand. I don’t like car payments so I don’t lease. I make “payments” to a savings account and when I have enough saved, I buy something- usually used but this was a deal too good to pass up! Thanks for watching!!!

[@magicmerlin1]

I wonder how many new vehicles are sold over used because of old fart concerns?🤦 Your comment has me wondering how much I could save if I find one with shart stains in the seat. One man’s shart is another man’s treasure. Funny how when looking for a vehicle one man’s concern is saving money and the other man’s is dissipated farts. 😂

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@magicmerlin1 it depends on the brand (of fart). When my daughter was 12- she could and did clear the room/house with her brand. We were driving on a family vacation and had to pull over and air out the minivan for an hour it was so bad. She was eating the same as us but man oh man. She’s so much better now as an adult. In fact, my little girl is a fantastic woman now. I am very proud of her and her brothers. Then again, I was proud of how she could clear a room back then too

[@billscott6819]

@@RonKnowsStuff Sorry to be a jerk, I totally get it. It's actually probably the best time in recent history to buy in cash with some of the overstock in new and used.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@billscott6819 you are not a jerk. I appreciate all viewers and their point of views. Algorithm!!! I am never offended by words and find humor in every thing. I have a great life and wife and kids so I have NOTHING to complain about. Except maybe that lingering fart smell…..

[@mzollnerable]

They lied!

[@RonKnowsStuff]

$48,225 + $899 dealer fee + $400 tag/title/doc fee + $2943.50 tax = $52467.50 -$6500 trade value - $34,100 OTD price = $11,867.50 off MSRP or 24.61% off. How’s that?

[@jjohnson8977]

4x4?

[@RonKnowsStuff]

4x2 - I didn’t want the added expense and wouldn’t need it for my use

[@MartinGonzalez-lx8jg]

Well as long as you’re happy 😃. I am not ready for a $600 month payment + insurance.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Insurance went up $48 for a six month period. I’ve been saving for this purchase so I’ll be paying it off as soon as the first payment is due. I did the financing to get the best out the door price.

[@KevinBrown-r7d]

You don't know enough to not wear that ridiculous shirt. It implies you did bad things with little dogs.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Coco tells me I’m the best corgi dad ever! How could I not wear that shirt? It should be noted that coco is adopted.

[@Ttow49]

48k for a half ton truck 😂😂😂😂 I don't think so

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Honestly, with all the features it has, I can understand the price BUT I would never pay MSRP for a truck nor should anyone else. I got a great deal on a great truck!

[@justinbadalamento1082]

@@RonKnowsStufftodays market is just insane. I find to get these deals you have to be okay with walking away and talking 10 plus dealerships. the best deals are when you go into with a passive attitude of I take it or leave it and just say I’m about the outdoor price. And I’m unwilling to pay for the add ons.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@justinbadalamento1082 you got it!!

[@adrich86]

@@justinbadalamento1082True. I tried it o but a ram 1500 but they didn’t want to play ball. I wouldn’t budge and the sales manager wanted me to pay more than their advertised price before fees. When I declined and stuck to my guns he started pulling crap like “does your wife even know you are buying a truck?” I walked out and he threatened that the truck may not be there tomorrow. I said I might not be either. Next morning went to Ford. They wanted to play ball and I got a truck with a sticker price of 54k for 42k out the door. Guess who was really disappointed when I told him i bought a ford when he called to ask if I was coming back?

[@facts30sec]

Very bad deal, 37k for used truck v6.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

We paid$34,100 for a new 2024 F150 STX Crewca after we traded a 2017 Kia Sportage LX with 102,000 miles. The truck was used as a loaner and had 850 miles on it. The truck was never titled so the warranty starts when it was sold to us. Hope that helps.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

It wasn’t used - 850 miles and never titled is considered new. And the price was $34,100 out the door -Florida taxes and tag included. I did trade in a base model 2017 Kia Sportage with 102,500 miles on it.

[@carlcarter4084]

Who cares!

[@RonKnowsStuff]

Happy to answer! Coco LOVES riding in the truck! The back window is the right height for her to hang her head out when we do the Chick-Fil-A drive thru. They give her a pup cup and pats on the head. That dog is in heaven. Thanks for asking!!!

[@CoyoteWoods-fm3gj]

These stories are in a million if this is real.

[@RonKnowsStuff]

It is a factual purchase and all the numbers are there except the $2000 I paid for the extended warranty that covers all the electronics and non-drivetrain components. I’ve already put 150 miles on the truck and love it. We are about to take it on the first road trip. You have to look for the “courtesy vehicle” rebates and discounts. The dealership had another one with the similar deal.

[@justinbadalamento1082]

They are rare but this was a loaner according to Ron so if that’s true all dealerships will probably sell one or two of these a year before it is 1000 miles. @RonKnowsStuff how long did it take to find this type deal?

[@RonKnowsStuff]

@@justinbadalamento1082 actually not long. I did a search on each Ford dealership’s site within a 50 mile radius of my home and my kids homes. It was one of the first deals I saw!

[@albertaroche6479]

Liar

[@RonKnowsStuff]

$48,225 + $899 dealer fee + $400 tag/title/doc fee + $2943.50 tax = $52467.50 -$6500 trade value - $34,100 OTD price = $11,867.50 off MSRP or 24.61% off. How’s that?