I only used Linux for A WEEK

[@RaidOwl]

Thanks to everyone for all the tips in the comments for how I could do this better next time! I know there are plenty of things I could have done differently...next time will be better!

[@liquidmobius]

You're welcome! Ultimately, it's a subjective decision. We all dristro hop until we find one that we like. But I will admit that if you need programs like Adobe and other high-end software for your workflow, then Windows is probably going to work better for that. IMO, switching to Linux is about tinkering, and for me learning things I normally wouldn't on Windows, like programming and bash shell scripting. When software is free (as in freedom, not cost) and you can modify the source code, it makes you want to learn those skills, for your own personal use and to contribute to the many great open-source projects to give back to the community. There certainly are some hardware/software compatibility issues, but ask any Linux user what they love the most and 9 times out of 10 times the answer will probably be privacy and security. Anywho, all the best!

[@Deathwalker666666]

The biggest problem with switching from any OS to particular version of Linux is constructed from two parts. One part is what kind of programs you are used to work with and second part is simple question how much you are ready to adapt and potentially distro hop to find particular Linux distro that suits your need. I switched to Linux mint because i had enough of microsoft problems with all windows versions post windows 7(aka the last windows that was good) and hell Linux mint gives me the good old windows 7 vibe when i use it. I thought about first trying Ubuntu myself but most of the sites talking about first linux distro for begginers in my home language could be summed up in this phrase "Avoid it like a plague and all thanks to Canonical for screwing things up for the last 8 years".

[@mozagaiarle]

If you just change from wayland to x11(xorg) in the settings in your login manager these issues with wayland, sharing screen and thumbnail will fix :) also low fps, tearing and things like that its just a wayland problem.

[@RainbowVision]

@@liquidmobius I've used Linux for years and only ever used 2 operating system brands. Started with Ubuntu way back and now Arch and if that starts annoying me I'll use Nobara. I have never seen the point of distro hopping but apt did annoy me a little bit with circular dependency breakages. (admittedly partially my own fault)

[@liquidmobius]

@@RainbowVision Believe it or not, I've never tried Arch 😒🙄 but since you mentioned it, I'm going to spin it up in a vm right meow

[@theweez510]

It’s definitely not an easy switch when you are used to certain software that isn’t available. Since most of the software on Linux is available for windows it’s a good idea to learn it there before making the move or install Linux on an old laptop to get familiar with it. Good luck in the future!

[@patpopov]

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[@wayland7150]

Notice he uses Apple and Windows and not just pick one. There are always exclusives for a particular system. It does take time to get established on Linux so using the Linux programs on Windows first is an excellent method.

[@fabricio4794]

Dumb Comment...Go Back to LTT s Lap

[@patpopov]

@@fabricio4794 obrigado novo amigo

[@edward_the_bruce]

Yes, Linux has productivity software that works amazingly well, but it is a learning curve for sure. For example I don't do much editing anymore but learning Gimp coming from photoshop was rough, but once I learned the way I actually prefer Gimp in most ways.

[@JackMeadows6322]

I remember in 1999-2000 picking up a computer magazine about this new thing called "Linux". Popped in the CD and played about trying to install Mandrake Linux, after that I was hooked installing testing all the new releases and different distros over the years. Never looked back, been using Linux for over 20 years and love it. Archlinux on my desktops and Debian on servers are what I use these days. And with Valves massive contribution to making gaming more accessible on Linux thankfully means I don't have to use Windows any more.

[@djsaekrakem3608]

I feel as if there is a major issue with linux though, Linux requires you too install basically everything straight from the internet... I been running linux mint as my daily driver on older asus laptop and its been great as a browser operating system / as well as other utilities that are open source. My gripe with it is how do I install a .deb file for offline machines? I have to basically always have dependencies. As with windows you just have the .exe and your good to go.... Any solutions?

[@djsaekrakem3608]

Basically I want to be able to use a linux computer basically offline and having the software locally on a flash drive...

[@miscellaneous5425]

@@djsaekrakem3608 have you tried appimages?

[@chucklanman3315]

That's about when i started linux. People have it easy now lol. my main desktop OS back then was slackware, and i used it for many years. I did switch around and try other distro's, but now i have finally settled with Arch Linux. It feels the closest to slackware.

[@ardishco]

Switching to Linux for a week as a challenge gives the OS bad rep, its not just for developers and programmers. It shouldn't be a challenge but rather a first look into the OS. Good video btw.

[@Linda-]

true, if you bring someone who has only used a phone before to use windows for a week, they will probably have similiar issues, but after a while you just get adopted. if you use linux for more than a month or so and find a distro that fits you perfectly, you rarely encounter any issues

[@masterTigress96]

What a bunch of limp wristed twaddle. You make it seem as if this guy is on purpose trying to give Linux a bad reputation. The issues he encountered are real and you're only contributing to the problem by saying that by switching to Linux for only a week is bad. It doesn't matter if an issue materializes in the first day/week/year of use. It needs to be known and fixed. If there is no exposure for these issues they will never be fixed. Look at the effect the LinusTechTips video had on the Linux community. Yes, Linus did some pretty stupid things here and there, but the Pop!_OS issue was a real bug that was fixed because of his video. And on top of that: Linux is not just for developers and programmers. Linux is the most popular OS for servers and mission critical applications. Developer usage doesn't even come close to that.

[@gwgux]

As someone's who's been running Linux on the desktop for many years and have been Linux exclusive for a few years now, I can say this was a good test to see where Linux is in relation to what you need it for. I'm not going to go into distro A is better suited for X or anything like that. You picked something you were more familiar with and ran with it. Most people transitioning to Linux for the first time will do the same. In their case, it may be picked on what the default GUI looks like for that familiarity to operate the computer as they learn an OS that'll be completely new to them or some other reason. At the end of the day, distro doesn't matter too much so long as it's not a good solid development team behind it that'll keep providing updates. A distro is just a starting point with a default set of pre-installed software and settings. Specific settings and configurations will be set by the end user anyway. When I heard you describing your setup, I gave it a 50/50 chance. It wasn't going to be anything but really good or really bad. I've seen a lot of videos on this topic, and content creators tend to have a hit or miss experience with not much in between. I'd rate this as a miss for you. All this means to me in the Linux community is that there are still more challenges for us to overcome. My personal experience is that everything I need just works and I rarely have any issues at all for both desktop PCs and laptops running Linux, but that's me and my situation. The fact that it went so badly for you doesn't mean Linux sucks, it just means we have more work to do. From the Linux community, I thank you for trying it out and documenting your experience in a video. Clearly we have more work to do to be able to free more people from the shackles of big companies like Microsoft, Adobe, and Apple. We've come a long way, but we'll keep trying to push through these problems.

[@warnaoh]

Wtf can we do about that ? If Nvidia and other companies don't want to support Linux correctly we can't do shit about it

[@gwgux]

@@warnaoh Learn to program and make your own drivers. Sounds crazy but the vast majority of Linux drivers were written by the community. If there isn't a driver out for a mainstream device, there's already a vast community already working on it. Either learn to write drivers and help them out or wait for them to release a working driver. The opensource AMD graphics drivers are a prime example of the community making their own drivers and the company behind the hardware making it easier for them to do so. NVIDIA is slowly catching on and we're still waiting, but thanks to them finally starting to release some specs and code to the community, NVIDIA support is going to get a lot of improvements. Before NVIDIA started to help out, there was an opensource NVIDIA driver. It's not game ready and doesn't do any advanced features, but it at least could get a graphical display going. Given enough time, the developers would've eventually figured out how to unlock the potential of NVIDIA cards, but it was always going to be far behind what was done with AMD cards. NVIDIA makes a lot of dumb decisions that anger gamers, but even they could see the potential for Linux gaming with the Steam Deck on an AMD GPU and what it could mean for them if they didn't step up. That in a nutshell is how you get Linux hardware support. Either the community does it themselves, or the manufacturer contributes to it after seeing the potential of having Linux support. For how long Linux systems have been around, they've pretty much got most mainstream devices covered in some way, but if you're not a developer like me, a quick online search will let you know if device X works on Linux.

[@jamesm2075]

Very interesting video. I have been using Linux as my daily driver for over a year now and I have personally found it to be a viable alternative for me. I can 100% see why this is not the case for everyone (or likely not the case for most people). I am just lucky that I have been using Linux for work for years now so I am probably more familiar with Linux than Windows at this point. Hopefully desktop Linux one day becomes viable for people like you.

[@fabricio4794]

Linux is Not a Car...i use and not Daily drive with a pc on the Street

[@fltfathin]

@@BobDevV i think switching to linux now is probably like switching to w10 from w7 or vice versa, most supported stuff will work no problem (browsers, top tier FOSS softwares, steam) but there's some quirk that will happen like cannot install python > 3.7 on w7, legacy software not working, etc. but for linux/ foss at least we can do something about it,

[@Chromiell]

I've been using Linux exclusively for the past year and a half and I'll say this: Linux for now is great for the tinkerers, programmers and hobbyists. It can run most games without issues with just a bit of tinkering and it can absolutely be used as daily driver for right about everything, BUT you absolutely have to invest a ton of time learning it inside and out, just for gaming you'll have to understand Wine, Bottles, Proton, Proton-GE, DXVK, WINED3D, VKD3D, DXVK-Async and the list goes on and on. If anyone wants to dive into Linux I can assure you, it's a great world to explore, but be warned: it's not for everyone, it requires a lot of knowledge, a ton of time reading guides, making mistakes, learning how to fix them etc. I'd not recommend Linux to someone who works as a creator, it's a mess and if you don't have time or don't want to invest your free time learning, don't even start, you'll only hate it. Since I've started my Linux journey I've watched Linux content daily, I've read god knows how many articles and Wiki pages, but I can say that I now have an OS that feels like home, and I still feel like I've only touched the tip of the iceberg. It took blood, sweat and tears but I can really say that I enjoy using my computer now and I've learnt more about Linux in this year, than I've learnt about Windows in the 20 years that I've been using it.

[@pato0590]

agreed, after like two weeks (and more) of setting up my PC (sway, waybar, etc.) I now feel at home with it.

[@gd2329j]

That's the point ! Most people coming from windows need no a nonsense o/s ! A one shot install without hassle or frustration . The simpler the better . At best everything offered should work properly in the running o/s . Making it 100% recoverable when things stop working . Easy one click repair process tabs are need . ( a pop-up on failure may be ) . Repair of Wine being a right PITA …..........

[@pato0590]

@@gd2329j any distro is already easy enough to install and repairable if you have the knowledge/ready to learn. windows has the same issues linux has (in terms of repairability/compatibility/ease of installation), though most people are used to that and required to have that knowledge/delegate someone to it. If we only count those, the only thing keeping people from using linux is laziness (everything works ok with windows, so why switch?)

[@truth884]

Good video as usual. I’ve personally gone all in on Linux. I use PopOS, and before that I used Fedora, and CentOS. I’m a Visual Effects and Editing guy and I wanted to see if Houdini would get a performance boost, and I’ve been on Linux since. Oh also Davinci works with no issues on PopOS with with Nvidia. Linux definitely has sore spots. I have been using Nvidia GPUs and they have been working for me. I don’t think I ever got my AMD graphics card working.

[@PaulMrPKcom]

Runnsevetal pcsand laptops. With and and nvidia... The only issue free systems in my caseso far are kden neon and Manjaro kden. With latest kernal now 6.1 and Davinci commercial version with USB key. O have tested a lot of other distros... Manjaro wins the hassle free distro for me. :)

[@Karti200]

AMD and Intel GPU are working out of box cuz of kernel drivers - tho ofc you can add Mesa3D for the latest / fresh updates for your gpu anyway :)

[@truth884]

@@Karti200 thanks

[@brostoevsky22]

I've had zero problems on Ubuntu LTS and Pop!_OS using AMD and Intel. Honestly, just go team red. Ryzen processors are even better than Intel anyhow. Nvidia is a swear word in the Linux community. They're proprietary dicks. Matching hardware to the software is the important first step in the switch to team penguin. People make a big deal about it, but you really only need to change your hardware once to make it more Linux compatible. In the future you'll just buy Linux compatible hardware when you upgrade anyhow (it'll all work with Windows as well to boot). Moreover, learning to use FOSS from the get go will prevent more than half of the problems that he experienced.

[@truth884]

@@brostoevsky22 unfortunately for what I use Linux, *bleep* is necessary. I’ll definitely eventually go team red, but for now it is what it is

[@xellaz]

Linux Mint recently had a major update. Their Cinnamon version is more similar to Windows than ever despite being Linux. You might want to try it again. For me, the distro that was able to make me 100% switch to Linux as my daily driver is Manjaro KDE. Now I'm on MX Linux (KDE) and liking it even more.

[@tradingnewbs3347]

Why did u switch from Manjaro to MX Linux? I just wonder. :)

[@xellaz]

@tradingnewbs3347 'Coz Manjaro tends to break on me more often than not. MX Linux is Debian based and is more stable. It comes with a lot of tools too that makes tweaking it much easier.

[@tradingnewbs3347]

@@xellaz I see. Thanks for the feedback. I'm planning to install PopOs but it'd take a year or two since my Laptop is brand new and i don't want to remove its warranty or until I buy a new PC.

[@xellaz]

@tradingnewbs3347 You can just try any Linux distro first using a live USB. You don't have to install it. You can also try dual-booting the OS and install Linux on a separate partition or drive. You don't have to wipe Windows. Before I switched to Linux as my daily driver OS, I've tried a lot of distros first by booting it on live USB. I also looked for alternatives for the apps I use often in Windows. I was pleasantly surprised that the alternative apps I found are even better than the ones I use in Windows. After choosing my main distro and about 2 weeks or so of extensive testing, I made the jump. No regrets! I would suggest for you to use btrfs file system and get Timeshift app to use along with it when you switch to Linux. Timeshift will help you restore your system to an earlier stable state if you accidentally make a mistake. Btrfs file system makes your files more resistant to corruption and bit rot. Just try to read more about it. This has saved me from reinstalling the OS from scratch several times when I was editing system files and made mistakes. 😅

[@tradingnewbs3347]

@@xellaz That's great! Thanks for the amazing tips and feedback. I'm really not into tech but I'm interested in it. Just don't have the tools back then. I'll definitely use those apps and will read more about itm Thanks again!

[@mrcrackerist]

I went with Arch when switch to Linux from Windows because of all the possible problems that could arise I want to know how stuff worked so that it would be easier to fix later. I switched to Linux because boot and shutdown time was ridiculous on my PC, prevented me from sleeping and changing class room during school. Anyways nice video :)

[@dullahangaming5107]

Boot times and other oddities that persisted on one of my desktops was what made me jump to Linux, and Ive never looked back. Sad to see his gaming experience, as that is about half of what I do, and find it rock solid now on any game that doesn't disable linux via anticheat.

[@fabricio4794]

Arch is Not For Regular People Arch is trash

[@fabricio4794]

@@dullahangaming5107 tell that kid that Arch is not for Humans that Usa Arch Fanboys Ruinned with Misinformation

[@mrcrackerist]

@@fabricio4794 Did I state that Arch was for regular people anywhere? OK tell my why Arch trash instead of opinion based arguments. I wouldn't assume a persons age just on there preferences also.

[@scizophreniac]

@@mrcrackerist if i have to choose between arch and being regular, i'm choosing arch... :)

[@asmi06]

"I spent like four hours and accomplished relatively nothing" - that's the quote of the day! :D

[@adamspeaking373]

That’s the quote of Linux. And why I moved from Linux to MacOS. After decades, Linux is still a fucking mess if you want to do anything besides brows the web.

[@Linda-]

@@adamspeaking373 not true at all, im curious what distro you tried out and what problems you encountered, because these days linux is just as (if not more) user friendly than windows

[@kevin6596]

Yeah, Linux can have some pains in the beginning. However, Gimp can do all the things you wanted... just gotta' go about it in a different way. This was fun to watch because I've been using Linux for 13 years for graphic design (Inkscape is a great vecor program!) so I kind of forgot how irritating it was in the very beginning, lol.

[@graysonpeddie]

My question to you is: what about trying out Nobara Linux? It's a distro for gamers and content creators. That is what I have installed in my Linux machine.

[@liquidmobius]

Nice switching to Linux! Personally, I run Debian stable, but if you're considering switching to Linux fulltime and want a good workflow for everything you want to do that you mentioned, go with Zorin OS, trust me! It's actually designed for Windows and Mac users to switch to Linux, it has NVIDIA and AMD drivers, you can AAA game with Steam, Lutris, and GOG, you can run any Windows app with Wine and there's also an added layer of support with Windows Support Layer, their software library is extensive, based on Ubuntu LTS and it just works! You can also enable third-party repositories for better proprietary hardware and software support. You can of course go with the free Core version, but if you really want a premium experience then you can drop $39 for the pro version. I did and it's going to be hard to switch back to vanilla Debian.

[@Tech_for_the_busy_Exec]

Here is a series idea, do exactly the same with a few of the recommended distributions. Like Mint, PopOS, and I'll throw one in ZorinOS. See if it really is a distribution issue more so than a "Linux" issue.

[@wayland7150]

I always use Mint because it always seems to work. I hardly ever have to do anything tricky. If I do find that the instructions are getting tricky then I know I'm doing it the hard ware or wrong. Like when we saw Linus of Tech Tips screw up installing Steam, he was doing it the hard way and ploughed on even when it was obviously getting harder.

[@233kosta]

@@wayland7150 To be fair to Linus, apt can really majorly suck sometimes. People say dnf is slower, but its dependency resolution is vastly superior, as is its general housekeeping. I've been power using fedora for over a year now and I've yet to break anything. My previous record with anything debian based is 2 weeks, and yeh, apt hates me just as much as I hate it :P That's two weeks until something is obviously broken, by the way, not a completely unusable distro. I'm not a monster. This is why I recommend that distro to n00bs. If I've not broken mine yet (and I used to f-ck a w7 install every 6 months), you're unlikely to break yours ;)

[@233kosta]

I've had a brief look at Zorin and it looks pretty polished to me, I'll have to give it a proper go to be sure, but it looked promising at least. Especially given what it's built on...

[@wayland7150]

@@233kosta Had Linus just gone to the Steam website and downloaded Steam just like he would have done in Windows then it would have been fine.

[@233kosta]

@@wayland7150 Had he updated before installing it would have been fine too. Point is, if they offer it in the repos it's meant to work without removing the DE or any special prerequisites you're meant to know about ahead of time. This is why I keep on breaking debian based distros and why I've had a better time with RHEL variants. I agree with your unstated point though, following unsolicited advice from "enthusiasts" is probably not a good idea unless you're trying to do something actually complicated.

[@MrTom_Songwriter]

@RaidOwl -This is the first time watching your videos and content. This is also the third time that I've ever commented on video outside of music creation. I've been working in information technology and services for more than 35+ years. I've also used Linux since the very first distro's. I'm an old guy, and I can tell you there is NO perfect O.S. out there. I use mainly Debian's unofficial firmware builds because I get great performance on some of my older systems including as virtual machines (hypervisor II). There are SOME applications that I have to run in Windows, (or a Windows virtual machine) for certain lines of work as there is no Linux equivalents. But for every day browsing and commenting like I am doing now, I use Linux. One thing you may want to consider, if you CAN NOT get away from Mac OS because some of your applications that you use from work is on that system, keep it as it for that purpose and don't buy any new Apple Systems. Use another computer for your daily use....as in everything else with Linux. You'll find that you save money not investing in every single new Apple hardware and OS and also Windows as we have seen with Windows 11. It's also an interesting to note, that I'm typing this to you on a old laptop that has a single core 32bit CPU Pentium M (which is a Pentium 4 equivalent) with 2GB of memory. I also can tell you for production work, a few years ago, I actually wrote two retail albums using a modern system with Debian Linux and LMMS (multi track midi application), just concept albums... instrumental tracks.. But that proved to me that Linux IS capable for SOME production work that I do, and as always, daily use. I hope you and everyone has a great upcoming New Year.. All the best! -MrTom

[@coreytv1338]

Havent watched the whole video yet, but most of the issues are because you are using wayland. On the login screen if you hit the settings cog, select xorg. It will fix 90% of the issues I've seen such as hardware encoding in obs, davinci resolve, etc

[@somesalmon5694]

Wayland has nothing to do with hardware encoding, encoding is supported thru the VAAPI package and mesa compile flags

[@BoDiddly]

As a Content producer, I am surprised you didn't choose Ubuntu Studio! Ubuntu Studio comes tailor made for Multi-media production with all of the tweaks necessary and most of the software you need.

[@homer23422000]

I first switched to Ubuntu Studio from Windows around 7 years ago, it was a very interesting and challenging experience. Now that you mention it, I'm surprised that Shotcut wasn't pre-installed by default back then (it should be by now).

[@BoDiddly]

@@homer23422000 Shotcut is not included today either. I don't remember if I have ever tried it, but I use Kdenlive, Blender, Cinelerra or even Olive (which is still in beta).

[@themisterchristie]

Ubuntu and Mint are both good entries into the Linux space. The biggest hurdle for Linux on the desktop is the Gaming, for productivity there is a lot of good stuff. Another hurdle is familiar applications. A transition from the familiar to something different can be a big frustration. Respect to you for trying. Linux is great, I use it daily, but it won't always work for some special needs. I myself haven't had any major issues with and Ubuntu or Mint based versions, however, others have been more of a struggle than I've been willing to deal with. With your gaming and the video glitches in the Witcher, I've not run into it, but I don't play in 4k and I don't play many newer games. GIMP or Krita are both excellent, they are just so different from Photoshop that the adaptation takes a lot of time. In GIMP you can do a lot of work on layers like you can in Photoshop, just more hoops to go through. Again, respect to you for trying, the biggest problem is un-learning what you have learned, in order to learn a new workflow. I always say, Linux isn't always the right tool for everyone. Excellent video.

[@entelin]

The biggest hurdle is whatever industry app you need to use for work, because it's all windows. Gaming is getting pretty damn good thanks to valves efforts and funding. At the end of the day for linux to really take off windows support needs to be perfect. Because if it's not, most people won't be able to use it regardless of if they would like to or not.

[@fltfathin]

@@entelin well depends on which industry tho, davinci resolve works on linux and blender is getting more and more become industry standard, game engines (like godot) can make cross-platform export no problem

[@entelin]

@@fltfathin For sure, there are a few industries where Linux has some desktop penetration. It's nothing by comparison though. Many people seem to think user friendliness is a driving factor for what OS people use, however it isn't and never has been. People are sold on a system according to the applications they want to use on that system. If the solution is based around linux, then they will run linux, if not, they wont. It's that simple. If the user friendliness hypothesis had any real relevance you would see more Mac users than you do. Instead, like linux, they have a selection of niche industries. The audio industry for example built up mainly around Mac, the hardware all primarily supports that platform.

[@kennethhumphrey952]

Linux is great for people that like to tinker or people that have basic needs. The problem that it has is most people have never worked with it and simply ignore it.

[@z0r0sDemise]

I use Nobara and they have fixed just about all the of the issues that you ran into in this video. Overall good video, and thanks for giving it a shot.

[@RaidOwl]

I’ll have to try it out

[@tvojejbabkydedko]

@@RaidOwl definitely try nobara, its a fedora on steroids and supports nvidia in wayland by default

[@borewiq]

True, nobarara is great

[@PremierPrep]

The Studio version of Resolve is a must on Linux! It includes additional GPU capabilities that make it a far more seamless experience. This is an interesting video and I appreciate you doing it but you even started off by basically saying it wasn't going to go well. My experience was definitely not this bad when I switched 9 years ago and Linux was not close to as easy as it is now. Feels like bias was carried all the way through the video. But again, I appreciate you doing it and it gives good insight on things that devs need to work on.

[@RaidOwl]

It’s impossible to go into this without some kind of bias considering my lifetime of experience all the major OSes. There are definitely things I learned along the way so next time I’ll be better prepared.

[@PremierPrep]

​@@RaidOwl This is true! Best of luck next time and hope you do try again. Keep up the great content! Would always love to help wherever I can. I run a video production and graphic design company using an all Linux pipeline and would be happy to help.

[@jonathanrider4417]

I have been using linux for about 12 years; started with Ubuntu - a couple of years ago did some "distro hopping" and landed on mint - which I still like. Just recently I have been test driving Pop OS and is really is super. There was a lengthy learning curve over the 12 years - I'm still learning all the time - but I don't think I could use Windows for a week. One of the main reasons I switched to linux is I was fed up with MS control of EVERYTHING. The linux community is huge and growing - with mostly an ethos that embraces open-source and many values I share so I'm very happy with it. I have viewed many of you segments and am astonished to learn you use Windows so much (or even at all). I think you made a very wise choice of distros for your needs and I am sure you can find whatever is required to carry on. The linux forums are my go to resource when I can't find answers on youtube. I strongly recommend Jay Lacroix's LearnLinuxTV channel on youtube. Best wishes for the New Year!

[@DIYDaveOK]

Hey I appreciate your effort! I'm a big Linux on the server side guy, and in fact my first distro was ancient Slackware from about 20 years ago, and I had to learn how to stitch together my first firewall and NAT setup with essentially no Internet help or YT videos to guide. My current server is an old Unbuntu server I'm getting ready to overhaul with ProxMox, pfSense, piHole and TrueNas - gonna throw a bunch of stuff at it just to see if I can get some more life out of the old hardware. But when it comes to editing my videos, I'm still a Windows/Adobe guy. And I think you've pursuaded me to video my foray into the upgrade 😁. Great stuff!

[@prosyn9352]

os is just a tool, should use the most feasible right now, it either windows or mac. Linux for server, full terminal without gui. Linux with gui rn buggier and not productive for client machine

[@nurphurecarnium]

@@prosyn9352 yeah, honestly i cant see why you should completely switch to linux if you already have windows.

[@DiThi]

Funny that you tried The Witcher 3 during the short period of time (like a day or less) between the update and Valve fixing DX12 support on that game (because CDPR didn't warn Valve beforehand so they couldn't test it on the Deck or anything). Putting aside the DX12 issue, remember that when using DX9-11 on any game it has to recompile the shaders the first time it runs them so you should stop getting random micro stutters after a while on the same area. Steam distributes pre-compiled shaders for popular games for the Deck but I'm not sure about whether those are compatible with other GPUs, and they wouldn't exist for a new game (or a new big update of a game like in this case) the very day it was released on...

[@J0ermungand]

Eh, I wouldn't do Ubuntu these days. Their snap store nonsense is infuriating and nothing seems to work properly anymore. Like manually installing AMD drivers on Linux is not something one normally does anymore. Fedora is much better while still being comfortable for beginners. Manjaro is currently my favorite; using a simple, no fuzz XFCE desktop. Most things just work as one would expect. Steam works well and for all the games that don't run on Linux I have a Windows VM with GPU passthrough. (both host and guest GPU are AMD now, 5700XT for Linux and 6800XT for Windows). I have dev environments setup on Linux for Web, Python, Arduino and Unity.

[@joesworld396]

Yep, you picked a distro that makes what you want to do harder. This is not a reflection on Linux as a whole, just your choice of distro. Linux Mint or Zorin OS would have made everything easier.

[@GabrielM01]

Just a point, in my experience, Kdenlive was acting up because of your AMD GPU driver that is completely not necessary to run it or any other graphical program in linux, but Davinci likes it so i guess thats why you installed it, then you discovered davinci just didnt work with h264 so yeah no reason to have the proprietary driver you could just use the one that comes in the kernel just fine i think it would be a way better experience. Another point is the video editors in Linux, its not like it cant run them, its just that they are developed for other platforms just like the games you ran. Before you even think about switching to Linux as your main desktop, you need to switch your workflow to open source or at least compatible software that runs on Linux, when switching from Mac OS i dont expect Final Cut to be on Windows, or i bet you wouldnt expect to make a Hyper-V virtual machine in Mac OS, so yeah, those are my thoughts so far, if you plan on sticking to Linux i wish you good luck, maybe even distro hop, you would be surprised how much changing distros can be positive when you are first starting in this world and if not, stick to windows and try to switch to software that works better on Linux so you can get a better experience when switching, or just stick to Windows if thats your thing, i use Linux mainly for privacy and security so i dont care about getting my hands a little dirty when something goes wrong and with time you manage to "let things go wrong" way less, in my personal opinion just like any other OS, i personally had way more issues (not booting, broke after update, drivers issues, software not working) on windows than i had with Linux, each to their own, depends really on your workflow. Sorry if i extended my self a little here, nice video man

[@GabrielM01]

Another point now that i am at the gaming part, when you are using proton with those newer titles it needs to compile shaders, that happens while you are playing maybe thats what you were experiencing with the little stutters, but it should go way after it is done, thats something i wish proton came with by default that is async shader compiling, so it would compile shaders before so you dont experience lag and (for the version i am using for OverWatch 2) tell you in the bottom left that it is compiling shaders

[@GabrielM01]

And a tip with GIMP, i like to use the PhotoGIMP project from DioLinux, it helps me feel at home since i also came from PhotoShop

[@RaidOwl]

Thanks for all the information man, I appreciate it!

[@GabrielM01]

@@RaidOwl thank you for the video!

[@agolinux6316]

@@GabrielM01 Note to mention, the shader are already complied on steam for AMD GPU, not Nvidia. Also the sharders compiling work much better on AMD with the mesa drvier, that's basically why I moved from Nvidia to AMD.

[@aklinko]

Always cool to see someone try out Linux as a daily driver. It's definitely not perfect, much less perfect for all workflows, but it's come a long way over the past couple of years. If you have a high pain tolerance you can eventually get it working perfectly for everything you need, but ultimately computing is about using the best tool for your use case, and if that's not Linux, it's okay.

[@johnnyvvlog]

Quite impressive what you made with GIMP in just a couple of hours given its steep learning curve.

[@arnonart]

i watched halfway and i'm really surprised. i'm far less experienced but i managed to get linux mint up and running within minutes. lucky me. i didn't have any problems with the repository software. i tried to install da vinci resolve but couldn't. i came from microsoft moviemaker so installed kdenlive instead. never had any issue with it. the only major problem i had with linux was when i decided to replace my hd video card with a 4k. i tried nvidia and it didn't work properly. i bought amd and that's what i'm using right now. it worked out of the box. i'm currently on manajro and it works perfect. i installed the manjaro 2 years ago and expected troubles. fortunately nothing serious ever occurred. i'll go back to the video...

[@peteryates308]

Distro doesn't matter so much these days, it's basically choosing which package manager and desktop environment you prefer.

[@ablacknambercat]

Having used Linux for the last 6 years, I share your frustration at switching to another OS. Yes, I had to use windows for a couple of weeks recently, and like you I spent more time re-learning how to do stuff than actually doing it.

[@donardonet]

I switched to Pop Os two years ago and never went back to windows. I work with web development and Linux is perfect for my workflow

[@BearZA_91]

I'm learning web dev now and I have been on linux a few years too. I think it just works so well because it's web based, so only thing for us to check is different browsers, which most of the main ones are available on linux anyway.

[@williamlash2428]

Good to see you gave it a good try. I've been using Linux since the first slackware distro, and every time I go into windows (I still do it about once a year for a few days) I feel the way you felt. Nothing works and I can't figure out what to do to fix it. The worst was when I bought a bluetooth dongle, plugged it in in linux and it just worked, so decided to boot into windows, an tried to install it, and it bricked the windows install. I don't really game or do media creation (The only gaming is on a dedicated arcade cabinet running mame on linux)

[@hotwings9382]

Nobody cares

@@hotwings9382 I do, so you are wrong as usual.

[@djsaekrakem3608]

installing via .exe is really confusing I know...

[@djsaekrakem3608]

eh on windowz u dont have to install every single dependency that is required for a program. atleast :)

@@djsaekrakem3608 I installed PRTG desktop on a w10 and it misses a dll file. So you are wrong again. I installed the same application on my POP OS workstation on Bottles and it worked flawlessly...

[@leucome]

Next time try Krita. It is arguably a better Photoshop alternative than Gimp. The interface is better and it has adjustment layers and non destructive layer effects.

[@OffitInfinity]

Definitely looking forward to your next run with this. I've been trying Linux for the past few months and even after the first month some things didn't work. Even now somethings are problematic. I won't complain about Ubuntu since you went with something you had familiarity with. I've been trying Nobara and translating my understanding of Debian/Ubuntu commands to Fedora has been an experience. For 4K, Linux doesn't seem to work as well out of the box. In my experience, the cause seems to be how Linux handles scaling. When I scaled to make the UI look nice it would then affect games whereby any game running in proton would run at a reduced resolution. With Wayland it also sometimes happens with native games. My solution was to use my old 1080p monitor, though from what I read there's some command line configuration that fixes the scaling problem, I just can't be bothered at the moment. For gaming, I've definitely had a different experience. I only really suffered screen tearing when using KDE with Wayland. I've mostly played simulation games during my time with Linux and this is where I found a real pain. Despite most games just working, Cities Skylines gave me a real headache when it constantly crashed, taking Steam out with it. The cause here is apparently due to how Linux handles memory, and I either could reduce my graphics settings or increase my swap memory size. Lutris also was a bit problematic, I couldn't connect Lutris to Origin due to Origin using an older version of OpenSSL. There was a fix, but again I passed since the Sims just wasn't worth it. It was fixed in the newest version though so I hope to try it soon. Also, when installing Cyberpunk from GoG it wouldn't install the game executable, so I dropped Lutris and used Heroic Games which just worked. My final bits of negativity I'll give towards Nobara. It runs great and I think it can give Fedora an equivalent to Pop_OS!, but it still has some rough edges. It does have an install script for the proprietary Nvidia drivers, though it doesn't work on Wayland, which is the default session when you install. So before logging in you have to change sessions to Xorg, then it works. Positively speaking though, the main reason I was fine with this challenge was that most of my workload is web-based, therefore the only thing that needs to work is Firefox. (When I did have a problem it was with a certain college textbook manufacturer's software, which was bad in general.) Add in that half my Steam library can run Linux native and I was good to go. I found VSCode to be easier to run than on Windows, OnlyOffice is more graphically appeasing than MS Office (tough it needs a word counter), even MakeMKV updates so I don't need to input the beta key. After about 4 months my Linux challenge is over, though I have my reservations towards going back to Windows. I've customized my desktop in a way I like, and I don't do that with Windows. Additionally, I had a magic trackpad, from when I tried MacOS, and it has full functionality on Linux, compared to how non-functional it is on Windows. Plus, thanks to Linux (and MacOS) I find myself using virtual desktops more often, Windows has never given me that same impressment. All in all, I look forward to seeing how things change next time around. My only recommendations are to give it time and don't be afraid to distro hop, though do make a separate /home partition so files can stay between distros. Also, give yourself an out, it's a transition so you need time and motivation to learn, don't force yourself to immediately fix things.

[@koskos758]

4K Scaling in KDE is fine.

[@johnmaletic898]

The more people stay away from linux, the better. So keep up these "didn't work out for me" videos. Personally I don't experience the problems you mentioned. Then again, been using linux for over 17 years now. I just prefer a system that doesn't give me the creeps every time an update is pushed or every single keystroke is passed on to its greedy servers or requires increasingly heavier hardware. So yeah, keep up the "good" work. Keeps the repair shops going as well.

[@UToobSteak]

Wayland is still new. Choose xorg in settings on the login screen and see if things work better

[@linuxnext]

the one thing iv learned using linux is to use flatpak for most of the apps because they have everything included for you and to NOT go on your browser to search for apps or dependencies. everything is in the gnome software store or the discover store for you. now in your case ubuntu doesn't use flatpak by default and thats why some people probs said to use another distro because ubuntu uses snap packages which suck and are a lot more slower. also your amd 6700xt should have worked fine for most things expect for divinci because for some reason they dont include the correct dependencies to make it work. also iv never seen this weird glitchy stuttering tearing thats happening with the games your trying to play on linux, i used my rtx 2060 for a about 2 months on linux and it never had any issues with that stuttering issue, also when i got my 6700 for Christmas iv had even less issues when it comes to playing games so its rlly odd seeing that happen. maybe its because of x11 or the display capture your using in obs which isnt the best because its so old and instead should be trying to use obs vkcapture plugin which captures vulkan games and opengl games with ease. i also had to move from photoshop to gimp and there is a lot of differences but you can add stroke its just a bit different from adding stroke on photoshop but you did a rlly good job for mucking around in it for an hour, same goes for kdenlive. overall i think you did your best testing it out and seeing how it would go. switching to a different distro might have fixed lots of the issues that you had but oh well

[@muhammadjonabduvali3484]

Message to Raid Owl: Raid Owl, thanks for trying Linux Desktop and documenting the whole process. And special thanks for sticking to novice mentality (abandoning things that does not work even after few hours of effort) even thou you seem to be very capable in figuring out things on your own if necessary. Your experience shows the state of Linux based Desktop OS for specific group computer users. Message to Linux community including myself: I think not all people are going to be passionate about their computers OS. Some people (probably majority) just want their computer (OS) to work so that people can get their work done. Even though it is hard to accept but i think we as a Linux community have to embrace the fact Linux based Desktop OS are not ready for everyone. And that is OK. However, if we want Linux/GNU/whatever open source Desktop OS to succeed (in terms of market share) i think we have a lot of work to do ahead (compassion, good out of box experience, UX, preinstalled devices, teamwork, etc...).

[@edward_the_bruce]

Totally agree. The desktop experience has come a long way, but for people who do not like to tinker....rough to learn for sure.

[@djsaekrakem3608]

@@edward_the_bruce tinkering is the wrong way to describe it haha, more like learning how to code to use certain things in Linux. LINUX mint is my favorite though.

[@GabrielM01]

6:20 if i am not mistaken, the free version of davinci resolve on linux doesnt support h264, but i could be wrong

[@RaidOwl]

Yeah I read that afterwards. So strange

[@alfac4746]

Respect to you for trying Linux. (I'm using Mint MATE for years now, with no issue) Comparing Gimp vs Photoshop seems unfair. I'm pretty sure you would make the same remarks about Gimp under Windows. It seems that Photopea is a good and more relevant alternative (there's also Inkscape, for graphism). My advice to keep productivity when switching is to start by using the softwares under Windows before switching (Thunderbird, Firefox, LibreOffice/Chrome, VLC, Inkscape, ...) Don't give up ! ;-) Cheers

[@404fox9]

I'm glad you were honest and gave it a fair chance. There is a lot of knowledge in linux usage that not knowing it can drastically affect your experience. For AMD GPU you do not want to install another driver, the main AMD GPU driver is built into Linux. For any newer NVidia GPU, you'll want to select the proprietary driver from your distro's options, but you had to learn this the hard way since nobody told you. Hardware encoding is typically supported through a VAAPI package that may or may not be presented as an option depending on the distro. Something that can drastically affect the graphical compatibility and features is whether you are using Xorg or Wayland and which desktop environment you are in: KDE/sway/GNOME/XFCE/etc. For instance, my 1080ti works perfectly on Xorg + KDE but had issues with GNOME + Xorg but GNOME + Wayland had no problems while KDE + Wayland has issues although I prefer using KDE + Wayland because mixed monitor resolutions with fractional scaling works perfectly on it. And there are way more DEs to pick from than just KDE/GNOME. When I researched the specific issues I experienced, they were often only ever reported by NVidia users. So I hope to get an AMD GPU at some point and see how it fares. People often compare distros, but the core of most graphical issues (which are the most common) are in what GPU is currently compatible with your choice of desktop environment and if it is using Xorg or Wayland, so there are many possible combinations. Anyways, I think someone shouldn't go into linux without doing research on the GPU + software situation. I wouldn't blame anyone for not researching your OS ahead of time, but if you don't then its just a shot in the dark. If that's the case then just let me set up something that I know will work for you. But again, thanks for trying and not just outright hating.

[@thomas.alexander.]

You did a good video and you certainly were honest in your experience. I use Windows and Linux, but I cannot yet commit 100% to Linux for desktop. I think your choice of Ubuntu desktop was a mistake, as it has really become unrecommendable by most of the current desktop Linux gurus. Linux mint was a better choice for stability and compatibility, but there are better options if you want more of the bells and whistles to work. Fedora has been getting a lot of attention recently, and there are a number of tweaked systems like POP OS, which has ironed out many of the gaming problems and multimedia productivity tools, but it's also based on the Ubuntu core. I keep trying different distros all the time, and a genuinely try out all the programs I would like to use in each one, but at present there are only two which I would personally recommend. If you don't want to deal with command line and you just want programs to work then Zorin Linux is fantastic. They have really done a great job at getting wine compatibility to work with more software than I've ever seen in another distro. My personal go-to-distro is vanilla Arch Linux with the KDE desktop. It requires tweaking. It does not give me an out of the box, perfect experience, so why do I choose it? The reason is the speed and lean package management, along with the AUR which is the biggest most cutting edge software repository i've ever seen. If it's drivers or apps, you'll find it in the AUR. It stands for Arch User's Repository. Want you work out how to get the packages you need and all the correct versions of applications, it is the smoothest and cleanest Linux experience I've ever had. If you only know Debian or Ubuntu based distros, you will need to learn the Pacman package manager before you can really get to grips with Arch Linux.

[@laletemanolete]

The troubles you encountered at first are so weird. My desktop with Intel CPU, NVidia card and LinuxMint just worked out of the box (just had to install the NVidia drivers already provided by the Mint Software Manager).

[@lancercncs1822]

Yes, he should have went with Linux Mint. I don't recommend Ubuntu for new users.

[@HecUnderscore]

there's that gorgeous thumbnail in use!

[@RaidOwl]

Please purchase my Skillshare course on GIMP

[@Bicyclesidewalk]

Neat stuff. Have been using Linux - some kind of Ubuntu/Debian box as my daily driver for 12 years. I would have a hell of a time trying to use Windows for a week - would be really lost. Well done.

[@233kosta]

When's the last time you _voluntarily_ updated your kernel?

[@Bicyclesidewalk]

@@233kosta Hmmm - I just use whatever is under the hood of the distro - Ubuntu 22.04 - uname -r shows 5.15.0.56 - I don't think is the mainline, but it works just fine. I have compiled a handful of ARM things for SBC with whatever mainline was available at that time. Not sure if updating or upgrading the kernel for the simple stuff I do is on my list of things that are that important - if the shit hits the fan, I probably would just do a full/clean reinstall.

[@bertnijhof5413]

What you witnessed is, what happens, if you switch to another OS. I know it, because I had to switch many times between 17-3-69 and 1-1-11. It takes time to find the best App for you and it takes time to get used to the GUI/CLI of that App. At the same time you have to detect the right way to execute your use-case or better an optimal version of that use case in that environment. Since 2003 I used Windows, going back to Windows requires additional work for me, because (too) much has changed since 2008, when I started dual booting Vista & Ubuntu :) Another very recent example: "Gnome switched last year, the way they dealt with work spaces". I use a Workspace for each of the running VMs and now I have to switch Workspace/VM by pressing "Right-CTRL-Key and Left-Super-Key". I still get confused occasionally, because I'm a "click-the-mouse-user" and slowly I get used to those keys. Somewhere next year, the use of those keys will be completely automatic without the current occasional stutter.

[@SectorfiveYT]

in login manager his desktop is probably set to software rendering hence why all the issues with obs, desktop and video editors, also choosing ubuntu is a big mistake.

[@fabriciochamorro2985]

As a daily drive Linux user..Thanks for the honest review! For people that wants to try the switch I suggest first to run the "alternative programs available on linux" on Windows or Mac PC for a while to get used to. Then the switch is easier. Also Ubuntu may not be in the best moment as a desktop OS, so I don't recommend it to new users

[@robertlunderwood]

It takes anywhere between a week and a month to work out the kinks, find the best packages, and adjust your workflow to become productive. When I switched, I started with a month-long challenge. I haven't switched back to Windows in two years.

[@djsaekrakem3608]

I use linux mint for my laptop (for the internet) and I use windows 10 on my machines that are offline (music production software etc).

[@milutinke]

The problem with Davinci Resolve is that it has some dependencies, and not all of them get installed with it, depends on distro to distro, a lot of people complain about it. Try out Nobara, they ship support for it out of the box, or try searching to find out which dependencies you need to install for your distro.

[@PaulMrPKcom]

For Davinci use USB key, commercial version. Works out of the box on Manjaro and with some driver tweaking on KDE Neon for me

[@Linda-]

a lot of the stuttering you experience in games is because the Vulkan shaders are still compiling in the background. If you leave the game running for a bit, after a while all the shaders should be compiled meaning no more stutters

[@jcugnoni]

Transitionning to Linux takes time and the best is to give you time to learn new stuff, fix some issues and get your workflow going. Using open source apps in Windows first helps learning the apps before moving to Linux. It is not reasonable to think that you can get proficient in Gimp or any other software in a single day, in any OS. If Adobe / Microsoft would port their software to Linux it would be a very different story. Also video editing / hardware encoding is in a poor state in Linux in general. Overall my advice is to start with Mint or Ubuntu, and a Nvidia card with proprietary drivers if you want to do hardware video encoding. For any other tasks AMD Gpus work well (for 3D ) and don't require additionnal drivers. Also try to avoid exotic / brand new hardware (even 4k displays can be tricky some times). By the way with your hardware, you should be able to run the Witcher 3 easily and the stutters you get probably come from Vulkan shaders compiling. But this was a good video with a balanced discussion on pros and cons.

[@sysdrum]

I understand the pain. In the end every issue I have faced running a Server OS like Linux on a desktop as the daily; I have run into with windows. KZbin comments What you are dealing with Linux is what I deal with windows 11 systems: 1 is personal desktop other is corp managed laptop. When it works it works. but if you forget to unplug the dock before closing the lid it will power on in your back pack. If you put it "sleep" while anything is plugged in and remove it before waking; it will BOSD. If you forget to reboot after updating any adobe product it BOSD. If you install anything and don't reboot it has issues until you reboot. It losses the order of my monitors after reboots. Laptop sometimes fails to see monitors when connected to the dock that came with the laptop. Oh it breaks audio all the time by randomly choosing inputs and outputs. Then there is VPN issues, wireless issues, video drivers (windows 11 removed them twice) and Software over rides that revert for no reason on my person desktop.

[@xavijulia8955]

I switched to linux about half a year ago while I was editing a feature film in Davinci Resolve (Windows). I just got tired of Davinci crashing without knowing why and you know when Windows reports an app has stopped working it's not going to work unless you close it and open it again. That's not the case in Linux and MacOS. Davinci may not be working due to missing codecs, it won't play some propietary codecs (mostly audio in some mpeg, aac...) because of licensing but you can install h264 and it works really well. I spent a few months on Mint (that manages all drivers and codecs for you) and it was more stable than windows, the only persistent problems where with the ui but that depends on the desktop environment. I'm now running Fedora 37's KDE spin, maybe not as stable but still messing around with it. One very cool and useful feature in Davinci on Linux is that you can access real-time logs, whereas on windows you have to export them from the Davinci itself and is a pain in the ass. The path where you can find them usually is: opt/bin/resolve/logs or something like that. Enjoy linux and don't be discouraged by the struggle, I don't know if I'm just a kind of snob with geek stuff or that I just want to feel special, but it really is a very nice feeling to be part of an open source community project that you can actually do real work on!

[@ItsCryptic]

I would’ve personally gone for Linux mint. The issues you’re experiencing here with Ubuntu are common, and are only getting worse. This is coming from an avid Linux user, if you were to try this again, look at either mint or fedora or maybe some other weird flavor of Ubuntu

[@ItsCryptic]

Those stutters you’re noticing on Witcher 3 are common use launch option DXVK_ASYNC=1 in front of %command%

[@coletraintechgames2932]

Everyone says video making is not best in Linux. Seems like your use case is to keep using windows. To that point. Work recently upgraded to windows 365 and it's just different enough that I can't find stuff. Even in the same spot, it looks different and I can't find it. So familiarity is important. I don't think you should keep using Linux here, but you would certainly get better at it over time. I would think a true test is a month. But I don't think you need to do that. Just stay with Windows on this.

[@yveslegault6825]

I have been using the father of half the distribution in existence: GNU/Linux Debian for over 20 years. I have always been able to get all my hardware running. HP scanner and printer, MAUDIO midisport 8x8, TASCAM US-16x8, Roland Sound Canvas, CM300, some windows software running under WINE, Korg nano-PADs and nanoControler, etc... They all work but some need some research and tweaking. As for games, I can't help much, although DOSBOX allow old PC games to run like XWING.

[@RandyHanley]

This video is so authentic and true to what I have also experienced. One of my DAW/Mixers (PreSonus StudioLive) cannot work in it's full capacity in Linux, and is only fully-utilized in Windows or MacOS. I do of course have Linux as a Dual Boot, but I cannot escape Windows unless PreSonus was to develop their program in Linux!

[@userperson5259]

Loved this video. You remind me of my brother in law. He does graphic design and needs his computer to "just work". This video reminded me of a post I saw.. I think it was on Spiceworks years ago. Here it is: Windows is the Toyota Camry of the OS world. It's not super reliable, but it's reliable enough. It's not super pretty, but it looks OK. It's not super fast, but it's fast enough (at least for the first couple of months). It's just good enough so most people buy it. Linux is the 69 Camaro of the OS world. (Don't like the 69 Camaro? Fine. Choose your own favorite customizable super/muscle/exotic car). You can add your own custom wheels, custom interior, custom body kits, custom paint, retrofit a big LS engine, modern AC, a kick-butt stereo system, modern suspension, etc, etc. Yeah, that's alot of research and installation. But when you're done it looks awesome, goes like stink, and sounds great. Camrys have their place and Camaros have theirs. The Camry drivers would never put the amount of love and work into a car that the Camaro drivers do. But they will look longingly at the Camaro as it rumbles past. So, the way I [understand your video] is, you've been looking longingly at Linux [desktop] for a long time and have become jealous of the Linux drivers. You set out to build your own Linux, but became overwhelmed with the research. Rather than put that much love into your own Linux, you set out to make Linux into Windows. -- Originally posted by Statler Waldorf Mar 2016

[@NonyaDamnbusiness]

I run a Lenovo Legion 5 laptop with an AMD processor and Nvidia 1060 and 32GB RAM. I have two 1TB M.2 drives in it, one dedicated to Windows 11 Pro and the other to Pop OS Linux. Honestly, I use the Pop OS side more since as soon as it starts it spins up Adguard Home, Homepage, KASM, OSINT, and Glances containers and connects to my Zerotier network so when I'm on the road I have easy access to everything back on my home network such as Plex, Home Assistant VM, Paperless-XNG, etc. without having to worry about running Wireguard although WG is there if I need it. I also have steam installed on it and it work well to play the small handful of games I feel like playing on the road with an Xbox One BT controller. *All* of the hardware works just fine in Pop OS as well.

[@jonathan.sullivan]

+1 for Pop_OS and Nvidia for daily use/gaming/video editing.

[@armstronglesabeer9884]

You gave it your best. I have to say that jumping into any software without proper planning is just asking for troubles. Took me 3 months of dual booting just to get to know how Linux works and than to structure my workflow according to how Linux works. One tip here: Krita is a better Photoshop replacement than Gimp or better yet use Photopea, an identical online Photoshop clone. Next time brother.....next time.

[@peppefailla1630]

Since you have a very new gpu I would have tried a more bleeding edge distro Ubuntu has some major issues, like sometimes you install a PPA and you can break everything just with it. i also wouldn't recommend to install AMD proprietary drivers, there's really no need to. If you use an nVidia card, use Pop!_OS which is an Ubuntu derivative distro which has a dedicated nVidia dedicated ISO Videos like this are extremely useful to understand what we have to do to improve Linux for normal users :)

[@peppefailla1630]

@JRPG Enjoyer it's 1 year old. Not exactly old

[@voidmind]

The fact that video editing on Linux is a pain means content creators who could potentially promote it's use are turned off by it and go back to Widows. It's unfortunate though because I find that for everything I personally use a computer for (gaming, web browsing, programming), Linux is great.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

Video editing isn't a pain on Linux, its actually really good, "Lightworks" and "Resolve" being the two main ones ( both used by large film studio's ). The "issue" is when people try to install them on unsupported distro's. If you're running Ubuntu based then Lightworks is your choice. RHEL based systems like Rocky and Alma Linux for Resolve and Lightworks. Right distro for the job in hand because, as we know, not all Linux distro's are the same.

[@coolbrotherf127]

I am also fairly new to Linux. One thing that has made switching so much easier is Nobara. It's a Fedora based OS made by GloriousEggRoll who works on Redhat and ProtonGE. It's so amazing because it comes pre-patched with every possible dependency, improvement, and additional graphics optimization I need to start gaming right away with a clean install. Games like League of Legends and Apex Legends worked great from day one

[@kritterkult1318]

Get a KVM switch. Except for gaming (which is stopped because it's a total waste of time) and music production (I use Logic on Mac) Linux does everything else I need. GIMP is an exercise in frustration. It's the only graphics editor I've ever used in depth, but, uh, there has to be something easier. All those things you were getting frustrated about, strokes, fonts etc, are there, they just take an incredible amount of menus to wade through and hard to remember.

[@blakeb723]

I have had the identical frustrations with drivers. I just want it to work! I don't want to fight my machine just to be able to do my daily work.

[@N0strapapas]

I actually prefer Linux over Windows, but every time I try to switch I end up finding some brick wall that makes me keep using windows. -My first attempt was an HTPC over a decade ago (before there were streaming sticks: You couldn't use Silverlight with Linux, meaning you couldn't run Netflix. -A couple years later I installed it on a gaming laptop: it couldn't handle the switchable graphics, leading to the gpu running full time until it overheated. -I tried again when I went back to college: it couldn't run Photoshop or any of the 3D modeling programs I needed. I was in college learning to use these programs, so an "alternative" was not on the table. ---As a side note, I've later gone and learned those alternative programs and no, they are not "just as good." -Several times I've had a game that wouldn't work. -Most recently: I couldn't get it to override the boot loader on my laptop, meaning if I'm not standing there to spam a key on boot it will boot into Windows. I may not use it often, but it's my only laptop so I don't want to remove Windows entirely. Every couple years I try again, get super into it, and then something happens that makes me go back to Windows.

[@nitroexpress9928]

I've installed Manjaro KDE in 2020 just because of being curious if Linux desktop was as shitty as it used to be 10 years ago when i tried it for the first time or got better... and still using it as the only OS since then 😃. Especially I've fallen in love with the package manager witch keeps my system and all my apps up to date without these annoying notifications at app startup like in Windows.

[@Jaabaa_Prime]

I've been using Linux since the late 90s, it was a very different beast back then. It is a lot better but I also have a dual boot windows partition for gaming. Nice to see that you gave Linux a try though. I'll be getting myself a 2nd graphics card soon, an AMD, then I hope that with PCI pass through and looking glass the dual boot days will be over. Proton is also amazing, even less of a reason for a windows partition. I know one thing though for sure, that new spy-ware called windows 11 isn't being installed on any of my machines. Thanks for all the content. Keep up the great work.

[@Ian8008]

A week is hopeful IMHO. I used it alongside Windows for about a year before dropping Windows. Specific software needs is always a potential issue, I suspect Gimp and Inkscape would take much time also to be grasped better.

[@DiThi]

I would have recommended Kubuntu in the past, and some flavor of Arch in the present (with KDE of course). However the number 1 tip I can give for a migration to linux is to have someone that can help with these issues. Preferably someone with a similar hardware. Issues that may take you hours or days to resolve may take 5-20 minutes to someone more experienced. You could argue it shouldn't be like this, and you're right, but there's a catch 22 here: Windows (and DOS) also required someone else that could troubleshoot these kinds of problems for a very long time.

[@agolinux6316]

I moved to Linux since two years and I never go back to Windows since then, no regret. I do some distro jump sometime to try out new distro out there but I always go back to vanilla Debian mainly because it was so stable compare to the other one, even using the Sid/Unstable branch. I do game a lot on Debian and I didn't got a single issue with my games on my RX6700XT with the Mesa drivers. I'm not an AMD fanboy but the Nvidia driver, even the proprietary one, are basically trash and don't receive the same treatment as Windows. I do understand the lack of Adobe Premiere support on linux is huge, however I do only a few video editing and Kdenlive does the basic so that's enough for me personnaly.

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

Except the NVidia drivers are not trash 🤦 Put a new 7900XTX in a Linux machine and you can't really use for example RT and there are other little odd things. Slap a 4080 in RT, DLSS all worked immediately.

[@agolinux6316]

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 Can't tell about the new RTX series, the last Nvidia GPU for gaming I owned was a GTX 1070 and it does an horrible job to compile the sharder for DVXK that cause heavy stutter just like Raid Owl experienced in this video. I did test a AMD Vega 56 GPU with Mesa/RADV driver back then and the experience was much smoother with AMD. When I said the Nvidia driver are trash on linux it's because they do not received the same treatment as Windows. They could put some code from the RADV driver to their own driver to speed up the shader compilation and easily outperform AMD. Even the Nvidia control panel is still dated from the Windows XP era and they are too lazy to update it. Regarding RT and DLSS, there are nice features I can't deny that but they are not worth it IMO. Sure a game will look good with RT on but if the game itself suck, it will still suck no matter good looking graphics are. I would rather play a fun game with bad graphics than a bad game with good looking graphics. As for DLSS, we got FSR on AMD, not as great as DLSS but still good enough. However, it's only usefull if you game on a 4k display. At 1440p, if your GPU is fast enough there is no point to turn DLSS or FSR on. From my perspective, it not necessary to pay a premium price for RT/DLSS for the reason above unless you really want it, all depend your need. Since the AMD GPU does a better job to compiling sharder and it's cheaper, this is an easy choice. I may talk like an AMD fanboy there but don't get me wrong, I still recommend people to pick Nvidia over AMD in most case at least on Windows, for linux, you may have a better experience with AMD IMO. I must admit one think Nvidia still do better in linux is their NVENC encoder. I still use a GTX 1650 just for video encoding on linux with NVENC and there still nothing better for now, it may change once the new AV1 encoder will be ready.

[@RainbowVision]

The problems you were having with games is probably due to Wayland. It's a 'new' display API aimed at replacing X. While X has had screen tearing issues, Wayland has had the mentality of 'every frame has to be perfect' for the longest time, resulting in poor framerates in games. They have turned around on this though and are working on an option to allow some tearing to happen to increase framerates. In my opinion, X is still better for playing video games, but the major desktop environments now default to Wayland. Also, Nvidia needs to increase their Linux development if they want to keep their software/firmware closed source.

[@LaurenzNotHere]

he wasn't using wayland. he had massive screen tearing and was using XSHM to capture the screen.

[@RainbowVision]

@@LaurenzNotHere oh ok well games run fine on my computer so idk then 🤪

[@nERVEcenter117]

GPU model and driver version seem to have a profound effect on how well all the software behaves together. I used to be fine in games and have the odd desktop or suspend issue here and there on my old GTX 970. Now I'm on an RTX A5000 and I have not had any issues with it for a while on multiple distros. Smooth gameplay, great desktop and productivity software behavior (recording, editing, 3D, machine learning) from KDE and Cinnamon, just a breeze. Your card/driver combo might be giving you issues, and that inconsistency is something Linux distros need to work hard on.

[@arimcbrown]

Since about a year I switched to Fedora. With a few small tweaks to get some proprietary software working, it's a amazing experience so far. The biggest changes that you missed the last year that actually have drastically improved the user experience is Wayland and Pipewire. Now these are things that each distro has implemented in their own way and can vary a little. (Your first hand experience might actually be regarding to Ubuntu's implementation of Wayland & pipewire...) The problem with Ubuntu (or any other Debian based distro imo) is that their definition of "stable" does not mean what most people think it means. When I learned about this misconception, I tried a distro that's being maintained by majorly by Red Hat/IBM. For the record, I think it's awesome you're trying linux! (fyi HDR support is coming this year!) For some reason, recording through OBS tanked (or locked) my FPS to 30fps

[@BobbleTech]

I grew up with all three big OS's. When people switch, they seem to not realize two things: - Linux is not a clone of macOS or Windows. It is it's own thing. As such: -- The system is different, the troubleshooting steps are different. Pop!_OS / Manjaro would have supported GPU #1 out of the box, but there is a way to enable it in Ubuntu/others. --- -- Don't try to force Windows stuff to work on it if you want a good experience. Use native Linux software (and known-working hardware+periphrals) whenever possible. Davinci is only barely supporting Linux. Lightworks or Kdenlive are the way to go. - Every OS/product has an audience in mind. Windows is general-purpose/gaming, macOS is general-purpose/creative. Linux is technically general-purpose, but many large software devs don't directly have offerings (See Office, Adobe) to allow pro users of those packages to use them, so you need to use/learn their alternatives. The people who really like Linux don't mind that, as they're usually trying to avoid Big Tech anyway, or use Linux for a specific purpose that only it works for (servers, hw dev). I have used Linux full-time off and on since, perhaps, 2004? If you follow the above recommendations you'll have a good time. I'd recommend Manjaro Plasma, and enable the AUR in Software. You'll basically never need to use the command-line at all (with a potential exception for fstab to properly mount shares depending on use-case). Just do Timeshift backups before every update, and don't update until you check release notes on their site+forum for known issues every two weeks or so.

[@JC_dk]

I switched to Linux in 2019, and I also started with Ubuntu and other Ubuntu/Debian based distros, the last 2 years I have used Arch Linux with KDE Plasma, and it works perfect for me. Although vanilla Arch can be a drag to install it's the one I prefer, but to have a better experience installing it, you can go for an Arc based distro like CachyOS. I LOVE LOVE LOVE working on Linux and never uses my Mac or Windows any more (it reminds me of that I have to sell my Mac).

[@francois2449]

I have been using DaVinci Resolve on Linux for over a year now, and it's quite fiddly but totally possible to use it. To be honest, im surprised it fired up at all with your AMD card (until recently i think, only NVUDIA cards were recognized). The thing with linux is that, there is some prep time before doing anything ^^

[@enigmaster84]

I'm a long time GNU/Linux user who personally finds using Windows a chore every time I have to do it and I must say this was actually an interesting video. Usually this kind of videos are either super enthusiastic or a rant about how Linux sucks because it isn't Windows, but even though I disagree with you I think you were fair in your judgement, given that you chose a very short time frame to try it out. But it was a challenge, and it was fine. I hope that as you said you'll try again one day. It's likely that we are used to different types of struggles with our respective OSes and we don't notice how much we work on those without effort until we switch to the other OS. By the way again, try again, maybe on a spare PC, and give it more time: it's a huge rabbit hole of distributions, environments, and programs that I'm sure everyone can find something that suits their needs from just fine to awesomely :)

[@petewarby7158]

Really good video, I've not seen your channel before but I really like your approach to reviews so I'll keep viewing.

[@matthewg5792]

Summary: Guy compares his productivity using operating systems that he has decades of experience with and all of his software installed against an operating system which he's unfamiliar with and has none of his software installed. Proceeds to demonstrate diminished productivity. This isn't so much an apples to oranges comparison as it's a comparison between a vehicle fully assembled by an experienced mechanic against an unfamiliar vehicle design being built by someone trying to read a manual on how to put it together.

[@matthewg5792]

Not trying to knock the video so much as wondering why there isn't an adjustment in expectations. It took me about 2 years using Linux professionally to become competent enough that I felt more productive using it than Windows. And now I'm not just a little bit more productive, there's a huge difference. Experience and building skills in Linux would be essential to make a good faith comparison in productivity.

[@RaidOwl]

I mean there was an adjustment in expectations. I said at the beginning that I didn't expect it to go well. I said Linux is a fantastic OS for servers and that I run it on everything in my home lab. I then set out to see how it handles MY use case which is mostly productivity, then dev work, then gaming. You got the unfiltered experience on how the week went: little annoying graphics issues, missing codec support on Resolve, no Adobe, decent gaming experience, great for dev work. Unfortunately I don't have months to learn kdenlive or GIMP but I put in enough of an effort to get a feel for the softwares in general. I think they are both very capable and excellent free softwares but still don't believe they can hold a candle to the Adobe suite (which is expected).

[@pelaajahacks8358]

you can stroke text in gimp. its hidden in paths in the layer window. gimp could be better for new users

[@milosCivejovidar]

Manjaro KDE with Wayland running on an AMD PC system (no Nvidia GPU) and it is the best OS I have ever used. All the software I need runs. I am not a big gamer but Steam and a couple of games tested run OK. The best feeling is getting an update to all of your software from a single place and it all updates in a couple of minutes.

[@RetosSpace]

BTW I use Arch, yes i know, the meme is getting old now, lol and for the record, im a linux noob, 14 months in and on Arch for all 14 months using a particular arch based distro and it just works for me, yes there is a huge learning curve for me but im loving it!!! Cool video

[@mvds-dev]

Ok, let's just clarify some things : 1 - Linux is not a Operational system, if u need compare use the Ubuntu as reference, because he was your choice ! 2 - It's a amazing video, a lot of people just can't use Ubuntu LTS as daily driver, is not made for stuffs like editing videos and that's why canonical made the Ubuntu Studio. 3 - Review some issues in DR video editor is a good way to improve and just a couple of years, was impossible play the Witcher on Ubuntu, today it's possible ! 4 - Some Distros can be more useful as your daily drive, LTS distros need be tested a lot to put some drivers, so because of this some "new" gpus don't work well. PS : Sometimes because we don't know about something we make some mistakes, Ubuntu is a security and stable Operational System, it's good for a student, a security employer or a DevOps, but not for edit videos and use some highend GPUs, its like use a hammer in a screw. Just take some small ssd and test some of this distros, u can be surprised ! I like a lot this video

[@crashniels]

16:24 you might want to check if you are running x11 or Wayland. Wayland forces vsync and with inconsistent framerate it causes stuttering

[@linuxwithzach5338]

@RaidOwl "ex-specially" As a Linux Zealot, I can tell you that you could have done a lot of things differently. However, that's not what I'm commenting on. I think you chose a good distribution for your purposes, and I value your opinions. The transition is a difficult one to make and can be even more difficult than what you experienced. Over all, great video, keep up the good work. I use arch, by the way

[@sponix2ipfw]

Appreciate the honesty. A lot of the issues you faced are easily resolved, but the problems are real. Linux still requires some research, community forums, and even old school IRC chat.

[@violetasiii]

my experience is that Linux is at it's most useful to you when you really invest the time into it to get it to work for you. Linux makes it a lot easier to piece together your own solutions to problems you face, and so whereas on Windows you may use a large, featureful software suite, which is incredibly complex and is only configurable to a limited degree (most of the time), on Linux you might take a lot of smaller programs that solve a specific problem and you would produce a script to e.g. take a set of videos and produce a vlog edited together in a way you like. obviously large software suites do exist on Linux, and you can get by with some of them, but my belief is that if you have the time to take a deep dive and solve the problems you face, Linux makes it very easy to do it in a way that suits you and fits in well with your workflow

[@ContraVsGigi]

Those who need a specific program and cannot start from scratch with a new piece of software will most likely have a problem when switching to Linux. And for that, anyways, 7 days is way too little to actually get used to new ways of doing things. Before switching I used lots of Photoshop, Corel, Illustrator etc. and relearned how to do stuff without them (or emulate an older version in my case, in the beginning until completely gave up on Windows software). Some might work just fine emulated, but you have to try. In the creativity field, quite a lot are missing; but if you need some specific software like Blender, you are actually lucky, that one is open source and very, very well supported and it is a professional grade software used nowadays by more and more studios. If you don't have some specific software to use, Linux can be a very nice change. Updates actually take 30 seconds and do not run when you least want them to run, you see no unknown update-related-things running on shutdown and startup, you can customize it in so many ways, installing a software is way simpler and usually does not need going to some site to download and executable, software usually updates automatically, you worry way less about viruses etc. I wonder though why the AMD card did not work, they offer good drivers for Linux, more or less on par. Maybe the default card drivers were old in the version you installed (at the time you installed, there there a newer release, the one from October, with a newer kernel). I am quite amazed Nvidia worked fine, usually they have worse drivers (getting better by day, but there is still a way to go).

[@Yxboss]

I have shifted to pop os for a bout two years so far, and recently shifted to Zorin and very happy with the result.

[@linuxrant]

Many people who switched were already using some of the open source software, before the switch. Like they had servers running, they used gimp, Krita, Blender, Firefox etc... So the transition was much smoother for them. I went cold turkey to linux. I had a lot of frustrations at first month, but 99% of the frustrations came from me not understanding how it works and how to use Linux. Once I learned that, it became for me a vastly superior experience than on windows. In so many ways linux is unbelievable with it;s customizations of your workflow. If I told you few of the things I can do on linux you wouldn't believe me.

[@zedovski]

Did you try to run DaVinci Resolve after changing graphics card? Interesting the nVidia worked better, typically AMD has the better drivers for Linux

[@notjustforhackers4252]

DaVinci Resolve is pretty much an nVidia product on Linux. For AMD systems using MESA then I do believe the program has an openGL option.

[@CarlosLopez-oc9nh]

Hi There! Just found this, I'm also moving onto Linux Desktop, ended up choosing Manjaro KDE on an HP desktop, as my needs are different it has been a learning experience. But I understand why you are having issues. To me it's not about being passionate about this or that tool, the goal to be passionate about what you do, and find the best tool that gets the job done. My first headache was with virtualbox too slow, turned out I had to remove Swap.

[@gunnarsandstrom8031]

As new to Linux using it for a year I would recommend kisak/oibaf Mesa drivers ppa on Ubuntu based distributions. And flatpaks for some programs. As for desktop i would recommend kde or cinnamon finding it more stable.

[@MrMeek79]

I am full time linux user and love it. Running a Ryzen CPU and the same graphics card,RX6700xt. I dont have issues at all and I am using Fedora 36 workstation. Whatever distro you choose or are familiar with is fine to use. Thats the beauty of Linux,some in our community dont get that but they do have good intentions. Gaming is great for me,but majority of my games are on steam. I would try KDEnlive as Flatpack. Snaps arent all that great imo.