I Paid 5 Designers On Fiverr To Design The SAME Logo... 🧐

[@willpatersondesign]

If you enjoyed this video, I made a second part where people on Fiverr develop a real app! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oarWpmSIrJyGg8k 🧐

[@happygamingboy]

k

thanks

[@LunarEleven]

After the amount of work the $135 one did, I would feel so guilty about the app not being real that I'd be compelled to get it made as well 😅 I actually felt a little like this person was duped... So this is great!

[@chickenphat730]

@@LunarEleven no it’s a REAL app. The link is in the description of that video. It’s so cool! I’m downloading it right now.

[@afasgasgagas]

I doubt you can check my work on Fiverr: \: @t Really minimalistic and clean. From Brazil

[@TheCreativeHustlerzAcademy]

$135 dude absolutely needs to charge more. He killed it. Even gave me some presentation ideas🙌🏾

[@CGMediaproductions]

Ikr. That one was the best by far.

[@sahilsabharwalphotography647]

YES YES YES and YES!! was already doing something similar here, but learned quite few new different ideas!!

[@szocss.lorand7980]

I agree with you it gave me some presentation ''tutorials'' to, clever and clean.

[@invincible888]

Can anyone tell me what software that $135 guy used for making presentation?

[@CGMediaproductions]

qalib unar probably just illustrator. Could be anything actually.

[@naimgerardogonzalezbijani6196]

8:17 "They're only getting better and better from now..." It really did not get any better than $135 guy

[@beto.aveiga]

100%

[@HerbaMachina]

Definitely diminishing returns to say the least. $135 Guy easily returned the best value for the initial investment.

[@sasmitsinha2766]

Exactly

[@erik6737]

I mean the $450 guy did an amazing job with the logo as well and it seemed like something you really can only do with a high level of skill but I agree it didn't get that much better

[@kaihocompany]

​@@darkopz It's irrelevant if he created the best logo in the history of mankind if it didn't align with the business he created it for.

[@EasiestOfEase]

The $450 dude was really good, but the $135 dude was INCREDIBLE! He went above and beyond with his designs and even showed you the process he used to make it. That dude should be charging at least $400 for what he’s offering

[@dmd_design]

To be honest $400 is too little to pay for a professional logo design. This is why i hate apps like fiver. It drives down the prices that people expect to pay for design. A guy charging $150 is taking food from the tables of designers who have worked for years to hone their skill. More often than not you get the quality that you pay for.

[@_Super_Hans_]

@@dmd_design How can it be too little when plenty of people are offering great work for less than that? Supply and demand. Just because you want to be paid more for your work, doesn't mean it's worth it.

[@pdrgallo]

the kind of work he did actually costs thousands, depending on the client. maybe even tens of thousands. hes a fully fledged graphic designer!

[@Vvopat96]

Yes, maybe he's a bit newer guy on there. It makes sense to charge less at start so more people will "try" you and when you are famous or people know you do great work, you raise the price higher.

[@udm27]

@@dmd_design you dont always get what you want

[@MissMisnomer_]

Fellow graphic designer here, and yeah, that $135 was INSANE. To get that much content: a style guide, custom typography, reverse logo, AND merch ideas? This man is not charging enough for his services, he should really value himself more!

[@niaz.shovon]

Most likely he's a shy guy, and he enjoys giving attention to detail on everything he does.

[@vivian2480]

or a really talented newbie... hope he charges more in the future

[@Hunter_McNeil]

Hopefully he reads some of these comments and charges more for his work.

[@MissMisnomer_]

@@Hunter_McNeil I really hope so, he's devaluing himself and he may not even realize it!

[@LunarEleven]

I hope he figures this out... Your price tells people "this is how *valuable* this is" and you actually miss opportunities by selling yourself short! I hate valuing my own work though so I get it...

[@XxONILINKxX]

This is why you shouldn't sell yourself short. The guy that charged $135 could have charged much more with that level of talent.

[@willpatersondesign]

Totally agree!

[@SohelAhmed-zu6ys]

In other platform I sell myself but fiverr is very unpredictable for me. I failed...

[@MrTabasamu]

I'd charge 10k+ for such work!

[@MarinaMatic]

He can't because when you are looking for logo designer on Fiverr you have no idea who has skills and not. So if he wants customers he needs to keep price low, and when he reaches higher levels (Fiverr ratings) he can increase the price.

[@zulfiquarabbas3933]

@Xavier He had to do it because of the competition probably

[@gilhuybrecht4842]

$135 guy, if you're reading this, please get of fiver and charge at least 2500 for a logo. You're a talented designer with a great sense of style.

[@shaedayoungeen5147]

He charges $700 for his work now. He’s booked solid with work.

[@Timtalks_]

don't give him ideas...Good quality @ at a good price...is actually very good business

[@StoreByThebox]

Don't give him ugly ideas, allow goodness to flow. Don't be greedy

[@killmi-kissmi]

@@StoreByThebox how tf is charging appropiately for his hard work (and IT IS hard work) being greedy tf how are you real

[@randomduckontheinternet8681]

@@killmi-kissmi no he isn't, ignore him

[@grahamjones3259]

$135 is insane value for what was presented. It also works across everything from web, app, merchandise, stationary and livery. It’s a designer who has yet to realise they value of their work, which I think is the hardest lesson to learn. Do this person a favour, and tell them what the real value of their work her should be.

[@hdd5547]

They know. They want people to feel bad for them so they buy the services. It's a great idea 💡

[@Ericbomb]

So lots of people on Fiverr will undercharge for two reasons 1. They live in a country with low cost of living, so they don't charge a lot compared to US designers, while making more than everyone in the same field in their country. 2. They are building a reputation and getting more reviews/ranking so they can increase prices later and still get reviews.

[@3dvfxprofessor]

@@Ericbomb The "cheap first and well paid later" idea will not work. It never did. It's a classic illusion in the creative business. Because in the age of digital revolution there will be always a cheaper (and better) fish. I just can recommend by experience to spend your engergy on convincing clients to get paid by value and not by time and focus on a reliable service and communication. All this needs a healthy life. If you are underpaid all the time you can compensate when your young but you get burned out by this over time for sure.

[@calthyechild]

@@3dvfxprofessor Sure it does. I started on Fiverr (which I don't recommend to any creatives unless you want to stand in the shadow of art thieves... last time I was on Fiverr it was to report two art thieves claiming my art is theirs) and now I work off my own portfolio, many key pieces of which were originally done on Fiverr for budget clients, for 5x-20x the rate I used to charge, depending on the product. :) Better to work for cheap than for nothing to get your portfolio set up. No one's going to pay a brand new artist $1000 off the hop. I had to demonstrate skill in my arena, by working with lower budget clients, to win jobs that paid me like that. I do hold there's a tier where it's not worth it to spend your time, unless you can whip it out in a couple of hours... but it's not unreasonable for a beginning artist to start with a minimum wage estimated rate. At least they're requesting payment rather than feeling flattered that someone 'let them enter their contest' or 'let them draw fanart for them'... like some new artists I see. Though I acknowledge burnout is a very real risk and I wish every day that every job I took was in that $500+ bracket, I still regularly take commissions for lower rates. Not unreasonably low rates, but not everyone has industry level money to spend on art, so while I feel it's more important to focus on negotiating big jobs, the littler ones make up a key part of my income... and even those little ones have clients who say "okay, I'll do that, but I have to save up for a month before I can afford to pay you." They deserve art too, just not quite the same level of intense service as the $500 or $800 or $1000 clients get.

[@scp8468]

In every fiverr challenge video there is always a guy who charges low and gives the best result.....

[@kuteken6312]

IKR!!

[@bigm6105]

Well the ones that charge low is often the ones who is a ”pro” and actually ”knows” what they’re doing, so they can charge little and get good reviews! It’s really smart ngl!

[@loadedlemon]

Hey I know this is random but I was wondering how you got that cool looking letter A and E in your name?

[@manintheblacktv]

T R U E

[@xtoxitrolls9252]

Like me

[@alexaf.3158]

Not to be dramatic, but I'd trust the $135 guys with my life...

[@dorcasdealba5448]

hahahahahahahaha made my day

[@StoreByThebox]

I will give him my card to swipe the amount x3

[@Krupaux]

Exactly, same feeling bro

[@rev_isle]

Same! If there's an apocalypses, that's the guy I would open the door for.

[@SLabs-my7vr]

exactly what i thought

[@roswell6422]

Almost makes me sad that the 135 guy’s effort won’t be and actual app.

[@enriqueguardia6913]

My thoughts exactly, somebody should make this app just to use its logo

[@Patchuiko]

True, but he do got free publicity on youtube, meaning more peoples asking for his services

[@kushvalorant]

@@stepdad1391 no it won't

[@acardboardbox9386]

Venom X Gamer I mean they would need Wills permission

[@jules575]

@@mysticaleco7646 how's it called?

[@kashif_i]

135$ guy nailed it.

[@willpatersondesign]

🙌🏻

[@daedgoco]

That was my favourite too, and the way he delivers the product was amazing imo

[@AI3Dorinte]

yeah, not even close!

[@becky7008]

yeh loved that one!

[@BenDixon1]

It's all in the presentation too. Really well executed.

[@JMan9191991]

Damn man, you must've brought a lot of attention to A6 design, he's now charging $300 for base designs.

[@missdoojy]

Good for him!

[@JMan9191991]

@@missdoojy right? That demand is way up, glad he's getting what he deserves.

[@dzifakayi2759]

As he should! happy for him

[@JMan9191991]

@@dzifakayi2759 I completely agree, supply and demand at work. He really does some great work.

[@froooooooot]

I don't know how Fiverr works but it says $600 there now??

[@thewowmister]

you can tell the guy at $135 went to design school, literally exactly how all my projects look. He did too much I think $135 just for a mark would've been ok if it took em like an hour or so to make. But he went a designed an entire identity for you, which is worth thousands. $40 was way underpriced and $450 was WAY overpriced, looked like they're more of an illustrator rather than a logo designer.

[@maksim3722]

I think he/she might have some architectural background. The measurement line and some raster elements are straight of a ground floor plan :D . The design process seems very technical/rational, the presentation with all the insights, is a step further from average design school. Top notch work!

[@nogoodgod4915]

@@maksim3722 He is from north Macedonia and trust me 135 in a day is waay more than what people make in 2 weeks here. He is definetly underpriced but the minimum wage here in Macedonia is below 300 euros a month.

[@dzplayer0149]

$135 is what my brother got when he worked a full month in a supermarket :C, thats an insane amount of money! Algeria sucks!

[@dzplayer0149]

@@nogoodgod4915 we dont have minmum wage in algeria, you could be paid 80 dollars :C

[@BrainRot4Life-j4z]

well i guess its worth for the clout

[@Beastman59]

I think my least favorite was the $450 one, with all the gradients and details it would be such a difficult logo to work with. Mr $135 nailed it.

[@sendmedics]

Ben DiAnna I did find it interesting how Will always talks about having SIMPLE logos and then says how awesome the most detailed and complex logo was... 🤔

[@twofivedesignsllc2282]

I think that logo allows for more branding opportunity. I think as an icon on my phone it would definitely pop out. You can even use all of the individual elements for other branding materials as well for a cohesive and enveloping experience.

[@TheVirtualStealth]

@@sendmedics It's because the video is sponsored. I think if it weren't, he would be more open to criticism. It doesn't look good on Fiverr if he says the highest priced one is not good.

[@3xceed]

They look like logos from 1990s

[@maxserra652]

Looks more like an illustration than a logo

[@rainpluscoffee3520]

The $135 is the winner for me. She even seems to be the most professional to deal with. She presented it very well in a pdf that showcases how it would look like in several prints.

[@abandonedmuse]

Oh it’s s woman? Wow great work.

[@in-human1698]

@@abandonedmuse it's a he not she

[@dusty6299]

Will: make me a logo $135 guy: *writes an essay about how he made the logo*

[@jfletcher1029]

Dusty it’s exactly what a professional designer would do. Selling the product. He was definitely the best out of all the designers shown.

[@dusty6299]

@@jfletcher1029 sure. and yeah he was the best.

[@RexGalilae]

He asked for a logo, got a shortened branding style guide in return

[@dncviorel]

@@jfletcher1029 He's not a professional. His design isn't original. Google "meditation logo" and take a look at the pictures. A professional doesn't do that.

[@randmtalkies6469]

@@dncviorel he is and btw everybody seem to like it except you something might be wrong with you

[@StorytellingHeadshots]

Designer: “I’ll charge only $135 for my work. That’s way undervalue, BUT it will be great exposure and get my name out there...” Everyone: calls him “$135 Guy”.

[@eliasbinde2629]

Didn't even think about that but yeah that has to suck...

[@fthurman]

For real. How hard is it to say A6!? It's in the video, it's linked in the description, say the poor designer's name, ffs.

[@grey_blue2513]

😂😂

[@ReallyTY4Real]

Starts charging 200$, clients can't find him. Changes username to 135$ guy.

[@asjka67]

@@ReallyTY4Real Hello, do you have fiverr link ? Because i can not find him. Thank you.

[@Stuart_Houston]

“It’s a meditation app with calming music”.... “not sure why he put a music note in the design”

[@LocFitnessMama]

😂😂

[@tophmyster]

The focus is on guided meditation. No point focusing on the music, sounds or alarm that the app *also* provides, the logo should be based on what the app's *primary purpose* is :)

[@vishalpatel6969]

music note can mislead the audience that it is some sort of music related app, the risk of which the owner wants to avoid

[@abandonedmuse]

Too on the nose as a design. That was actually the worst of all the designs.

[@franklynezeh2558]

this was funny 😂

[@DaedalosC9]

450$ had so many basic problems, from the concept to the colors, typography, size (of element details) and even the symbol communication, it would have been good that he at least rotated it 90º CCW (even 45º) so it doesnt direct the viewer to the bottom if he wants that "mindscape" idea. Looking forward and up would give a way better idea of mindscaping The 135$ was a hidden gem in deed

[@deyanali2617]

but also as a customer, will peterson automatically liked the 450$ because he paid more for it

[@fraxizztv6433]

@@deyanali2617 that's pretty dumb especially because the goal of this video should have been to stay objective.

[@wooyyeah]

Google meditation logo on pinterest and you will realise that $135 logo should be worth $5, hahahahaha

[@Looseideations]

​@@wooyyeah Thing is the presentation is well-executed, let alone their whole branding pdf. It's customized work and related their work with meaning Will asked for.

[@alexsydenham8345]

what was wrong with it? at least he created an original design plus provided multiple other options for will to choose from. The 135 dollar guy was more presentation than actual designing

[@DeathnoteBB]

2:53 Honestly this one is pretty brilliant in my opinion. The squiggles and circle look like a person, but you didn’t mention (if you noticed) that it _also_ looks like a sun, mountains, and a river. The head is the sun, the torso the mountains, and the legs the river. As someone into minimalist design, I love that one a lot.

[@laraseren4994]

This one was the best!

[@rossmcvinnie6903]

I liked this concept but the "s" in the logotype really grated on me - something just wasn't right with it. It would have been nice to see that logo mark but with a different typeface.

[@rigg13]

Ross McVinnie Exactly!

[@章魚-x2k]

i love that the most!

[@shinn5_]

It really is a great design, but that logo was actually not from the seller (from what I've seen), because I've seen that logo before and it came from a free site, the site creates simple logos for business etc. I think the seller just get it there and then own it and pretend that it's his works

[@solitary2]

The one for 135 was the best. This video made me realize just how interesting and in-depth designing logo's are. Something so simple as such aesthetic and mathematical complexity to it. Completly makes me reconsider how I approach both viewing logo's and how I wish to design them.

[@maazali5269]

Hello

[@maazali5269]

I am a vector designer

[@avismoon]

The $135 was my fav. That person seems like they're from a design school, perfect presentation, full explanation of the concept, technical details and examples of usage!

[@LizatHome]

I also loved that one.

[@MH-le1fr]

Google meditation logo on pinterest - there are tons of logos that look exactly like it

[@coleKE]

@@MH-le1fr 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kalospsofos]

The 135$ Guy is soooo underpriced, he did such a great and professional job and the way he presented the logo is just great 10/10

[@JonDaiello]

The $135 logo was fantastic! Creative, subtle and unique. It's always interesting to see how every designer has a different way of solving these visual problems.

[@Kyrelel]

"I'm not sure why there's a music note in there ...." Brief: a guided meditation app _primarily with additional zen music features, calming sounds to help you focus_ ... Yup, no idea where he got the idea that music was involved :?

[@dogemcdogeface7901]

I think it’s just the fact that it’s not natural looking, like it doesn’t fit

[@poverty]

I wqs thinking the same thing lol

[@rhose8679]

you sounds like the guy who designed it

[@georgiachancellor7681]

Will, I absolutely LOVED the $40 guy!! I have owned a couple of business' and was really heavy in advertising. There's a talent that thinks outside by giving you more than you asked for with multiple advertising. I hope someone picks him up for advertising! I have sold my business and now coach. MARKETING is my game! Would love to step in fiver if I you're up for it...

[@ZikarOwazaaif]

that's what I blurted out in the middle of video.

[@makalacc]

It's funny that you didn't like any details until they costed 450$

[@NemoTn]

this exactly

[@yepthatscringe5822]

Smh

[@deyanali2617]

wow great point. although the 135$ one totally demolished al of them, he unconciously amazed by 450$ one

[@123arskas]

Exactly. That much amount of detail won't fit on an App Icon.

[@tonyfromhogwarts]

*Marketing*

[@raisibekwenaite2052]

$135 guy is the best,the logo had simplicity yet depth and it can't be outdated

[@n0ne0ther37]

The fact that he missed the river in the first logo being the S to complete the M in the mountain hurts me. I also checked the comments and couldn't find anyone else that saw it🙁

[@lovelyappletv]

Yes, that jumped out at me. I also liked that the overall effect was of a Landscape, which helps to associate with the name Mindscape. I would find it hard to choose between the $40 option and the $135 option. Both were excellent, and both were total bargains.

[@TgiYuffy]

I honestly thought it was obvious so I was wondering how he didn't notice it

[@ZikarOwazaaif]

I thought its pretty obviously making up a landscape with M mountain and S river.

[@michevans]

That logo was so awful, amateur work 100%

[@jesusgarcia-xj2mz]

@@lovelyappletv I'm trying to start a business too haa. I have my website set and everything, all I need it a logo design. I just don't know which one to go for, you know.

[@folbfolb]

$135 guy is A6design in case anyone wanted to know

[@MolotovBg]

Bless you!

[@josephnc6814]

I need this guy to design my new logo.

[@ryliek6832]

Everyone like Folbs comment so A6design gets more recognition :)

[@tinkersdinkers]

save

[@octaviolopez89]

lets take this reply to the top. He or she, definitly deservs that kind of jobs

[@saadat7703]

I love the work of the guy who charged $135. The logo was gorgeous, and the fact that he expanded on the idea without being asked is brilliant!

[@ThisDesignLife]

135$ guy is now going to be putting his prices up ;)

[@MarinaMatic]

Maybe, maybe not. We have problem with gig analytics on Fiverr site so we can't see how much traffic increase we get. If he could see the result of this promotion in higher views he could increase his rates. But now it would be just blind guessing.

[@emiljanev4427]

@@MarinaMatic You are literally everywhere gosh :D on every fiverr forum and now on youtbe

[@ryzen958]

@@MarinaMatic any idea when will be that glich or bug fixed? No idea how my gig is performing

[@okamivolgan]

@@emiljanev4427 why do you think feminism is toxic and contagious? it's for the same reason women get pay less than men ... they don't do anything but chatting online.

[@emiljanev4427]

@@okamivolgan wtf are you talking about?

[@amoryfullsail2202]

$135 guy is a major flex without even trying

[@stanleyasokingz5022]

The $135 guy should be paid $1,350. He was awesome. Loved the concept, the process and minimalistic view. Kudos

[@longlivecaesar]

$135 guy sold his product to the end. He show cased his work giving the client a full scale of ideas of how well the concept works. He broke it down every bit of the way to show the client why and how it works. The work done was extraordinary. Loved it, he truly took great pride in his work.

[@IchimatsuTrashneko]

Glad you made a good description for what you wanted. I just get emails saying "I want a logo"

[@Gabo2oo]

Yeah but it has to look good

[@cergy7625]

And add some nice element to it

[@gldfshkd3545]

"Make it puerple"

[@albertoguadalupe3988]

Make it pretty

[@CTRLGunpla]

Maybe add a thing? Idk

[@DoodleDust]

5:00 Your email said the app would focus on "zen music features", which I think is why they tried a music note on one of the designs 😊

[@aliuoladejo7242]

So you're not the $135 guy...

[@hvbrands]

as logo designer my self, i can relate that the 135$ nailed it with the minimal design that can work perfectly for the brand and compatible for either the app, website, merchandise.. he definitely needs to charge more.

[@Johowiiezz]

Edited this so people wont know why it has so many likes! Btw, you look beautiful today 😇❤️

[@ArksDigital]

I was hoping someone wrote this

[@diegoalva5878]

Something you need to consider, is that many of those who work for companies such as Fiverr are from other countries. To you $135 might be too little, but to them it might mean more commissions because of "cheap" price point, instead of waiting for people to debate whether they want to spend $500, when there are cheaper options. Just a thought

[@Johowiiezz]

@@diegoalva5878 of course, but at the same time, spending more time on less projects increases the likely hood of his average overall quality is higher

[@rotteneffekt4416]

All of them are under priced, that's the problem with platfroms like this -- they're devaluing all of an industry. Take the 450 dollars over a few days and compare that to a salary. Can you live on that? If you're a business, your work 20 days a month is not guaranteed, lucky if you get a client, lucky if you work 10 days a month. The only people who benefit from this... not the client, not the designer, but the platform. Now think of the dude who created a good presentation, had a great concept and charged 135 minus the platform's percentage.

[@elizatotaldesign5387]

@@rotteneffekt4416 exactly.

[@AzukisS]

The 135$ designer resonates with my energy at work so much. I try to get involved with the project, understand the client, give them differents options and think out of the box when I'm designing or ilustrating. As a perfectionist this is top notch, very pleasing and visual appealing, he NEED to raise up his prices, cause he is killing it.

[@ThanosStudioArt]

Man the 135 $ is absolutely magnificent job! To my taste on logotypes is by far the best one! Its so interesting to view this kind of experiments Will. Thanks for the amazing content!! 👏👏👏

[@DarkAngleProduct]

6:17 this guy took the cake, the other spectrum of designers didn't even compare to this guy's level of work.

[@tulp_graphics]

As someone who has just begun her journey to become a graphic designer (career switching), this video is so helpful. Not only to see the different design styles against the prices, but also the different ways of presenting the designs. I've got a huge amount of tips from this, so thank you all so much!

[@florianqorraj179]

Yesss it’s the same with me

[@chanex5324]

@@florianqorraj179 What's your email for those looking for logo artist? No concept needed, just design.

[@LaraLocoge]

The 450$ one is really nice but it's more like an illustration than an actual logo 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@jackliu9310]

Agreed. Logo need be simple, clear, and nice looking.

[@azkaainulmaarij7177]

True

[@rossmcvinnie6903]

Agree - I always think that logos should work in monochrome just as well as they do in their intended full colour. I can't imagine this working as a simple black logo on a white background. Also too much small detail with the moon and stars - this will be lost in a small app icon or printed really small on a business card, for example.

[@silverbloodwolf98]

Oof, late answer, but the goal was to make it a logo/website icon. The extra simplified version can be done out of it or simple text can be used (text has a noticable details in it too). So I think it is fine. But I def like 135 dollar guy more, not because their logo is more creative or not (depends on tastes), but he did a presentation, the workflow process and branding ideas. It feels modern, it feels easy to continue working with. It feels professional.

[@MielyLimon-Tea]

Well those logos are the best, it catches more attention and gives to the customer a better impression

[@jazz-axy9924]

It feels like you were trying to convince me to like the $450 one

[@ivanvincent770]

i mean.. if you would spend so much money you would subconsciously justify it

[@excaliber2845]

Ye I did not like it at all

[@AbelR91]

@@ivanvincent770 That's a good insight to how client psychology might work

[@Gyork_]

Don't you see how insane is that the guy flippled the shadows?! it's INSANE!

[@nathanrey]

@@excaliber2845 that last one is INSANE.

[@KindaSorta451]

My personal favorite was the $40 one where the M & S was turned into the person but $135 person is a damn overachiever lmfaooo bravo

[@donna2569]

My graphic design teacher told us to watch this video lol

[@willpatersondesign]

Enjoy :)

[@citylab4516]

So what you learn from here?

[@tzeearn]

@@citylab4516 presentation of work is important

[@brindalemboo2538]

sis, same

[@mvpop1]

Thank you for the opportunity, Will! It was great to partner with you and an awesome experience! Mario

[@mohammedjiari5289]

$135 guy is the best, there is more creativity in his work and gave a good presentation for his work

[@lenzfliker]

$70 logo is perfect for a marijuana meditation service

[@Rirah]

I literally thought the same thing.

[@GabrielOkpo]

Lmao

[@batfan1939]

420th like

[@trimq2304]

same

[@cole412]

medication meditation lmfaoao

[@aracelik7222]

Thank you! Next time it would be cool for you to show logos and no prices. Like a blind wine tasting to see if we can figure out which is which! Maybe the $40 would be the best but we tend to automatically like the most expensive....

[@willpatersondesign]

Great idea! :)

[@RoxanneGutierrez010]

No - apparently this man liked the design more because it cost more money.

[@karinfarrar]

Agree. The "blind tasting" would be interesting, although he would have to judge what someone else initiated and spent. But still interesting. - That said, he was appropriately hard on the $40 guy.

[@artistevivien]

I would have guessed the $135 guy to be worth $900 at least, and the most expensive one about $200. The cheapest designer did look like they put in the least effort.

[@lazygurl5731]

I love how we all process data differently

[@AdriDwitomo]

Yeap mr. $135 Nailed it. Last one is pretty but wouldn't work for a logo. It will age bad. And can't see it working for an app actually..

[@The_Linux_User]

True, app icons can be quite small, especially on small phones, you wouldn't be really able to see the details and it would just be one big blob

[@robin2012ism]

Just wanted to mention that the "leaves" is actually a lotus flower.

[@sicKer666666666]

Pretty obvious :P

[@emilie5273]

sicKer sicKer not to him

[@dymetex6360]

Looks like the Herbalife logo, totally missed the mark

[@kakarabreu]

this video makes me cringe. Cause he made the video all "pompous" talking about logos and didnt even realized that the first logo the M was the mountains and the S was de river (he missed the river). And talking about : how this LEAVES doesnt fit an app (what? was perfect sized for apps.... and is a lotus man! the simbol of zen!!!) and saying that the 450 was a good logo for app and doesnt even fits the square for google app kkkkkk really.....crying here

[@TomoyoTatar]

@@kakarabreu same

[@brianm7089]

The 135 guy could honestly charge a couple grand for what he made, dude made a whole campaign XD

[@miguelcatto]

Now imagine how far A6design/$135 guy could go if you pay him a thousand dollars next time

[@fthurman]

you'd get an entire style/branding guide!

[@altrogeruvah]

I just love how every mid-range Fiverr artist is killing on every video I've watched. The $135 guy's work put a smile on my face, great stuff.

[@obayalhusseini9819]

weed is good

[@sergiog2930]

The last one in the best for sure. Stands for its colors and the idea in general means it is not the same boring app, there is something in that app you need to find. Amazing!

[@animedreamz2009]

$135 did the best job. I definitely wouldn't sell my services on fiverr though.

[@anothernerd4141]

Why bro?

[@hirnfaser7245]

Hakuna Matata youre competing with people that sell logos for $5. you wont earn enough to even live from it

[@ciarangell13]

@@hirnfaser7245 doesn't have to be a full time ting tho, lil side piece.

[@efair11111]

FRANKIE HARRIS I am currently studying graphic design in Pakistan. I work on Fiverr and have made very little money there. But I honestly don’t know where else to go. We don’t have PayPal here, hence very little access to online platforms. I really, truly wish someone out there could help me, just guide me a little with how to build a graphic design portfolio to be able to find remote jobs.

[@watvid1]

@@efair11111 use Instagram

[@TheStepmonkey]

No, that $450 logo looks more like a sleeping app logo and the design itself is not memorable. Also, it can't be a logo cause it's basically an illustration without real meaning. The $135 logo was WAY better.

[@i.karpowski7059]

yep, true

[@idntknow29]

Your logo doesn’t have to show exactly what you do. It’s not a flyer or an advert. That’s why you build a brand, and you show who you are and explain what makes you different. So a meditation app doesn’t have to show someone meditating. That being said, the $135 logo was very successful - clean and modern and the presentation was great, and helped sell the logo. The $450 one was more memorable. Take away the stars and moon, brighten it up a bit and it would show relaxation and calm which is the purpose of meditation. Depends on the client.

[@naitepitome607]

@@idntknow29 In my opinion, the logo $450 dollar is far superior to $135.. tho we appreciate the concept behind the 135$. When it comes to applications, visuals from $450 can easily capture the attention of the users in an instant. We can say that there is depth behind the origin of $135 and it's cheap yet in reality you don't have the time to explain the meaning and origin of it to the users. If i will see the $450 vs $150 dollar logo in my phone as an application, my eyes will be on the $450.

[@codeinout9438]

No way 135 looks better than 450 . Last one looks the best

[@justseven3487]

Soo you wanna say that the $135 is memorable? I forgot how it looks while typing out this comment.

[@scottrousseau496]

I've been designing for 40 years. This is a great video. Loved the variety and the thought power involved in this. Thanks!

[@sebastianodibusti]

Amazing Scott, do you have any tips or suggestions for new designers?

[@scottrousseau496]

@@sebastianodibusti Think outside the box. Scour the internet for designs to nourish your knowledge and inspire your muse. Really know what good design is, and critique everything you do as if it were someone else's work. Best wishes!

[@sebastianodibusti]

@@scottrousseau496 thnx A lot Scott 👏

[@scottrousseau496]

@@sebastianodibusti My pleasure!😊

[@omaraniym]

Will, you should contact the $135 guy again and give him some pricing tips.

[@HazahVLO]

🚫🧢

[@thomi100]

All comments be like: "The $135 dude..."

[@hamuArt]

I think not by accident....

[@TomoyoTatar]

@@hamuArt nuh I hate the 135 one

[@hamuArt]

@@TomoyoTatar you are so jealous :)

[@TomoyoTatar]

@@hamuArt there's nothing really here to be jealous of, I just didn't like it. Plus I can make my own icons in the way I want them so why should I be bothered by someone getting what they want. He likes it, I dont? Simple as that lmao.

[@mleite1]

@@TomoyoTatar who cares anyway?

[@chriscrockpot5410]

135 package is the winner for me. I can see the direction for the brand not just a logo.

[@novaau8603]

9:15 looks like an app to remind you to take your birth control

[@rexwater1]

😄🏆

[@fthurman]

it sure does!

[@ElusivEnigma]

I was just thinking this LMAO

[@emmadoesartonline]

LOL true

[@natnuss98]

Everyone ne gushing over 135$ guy Totally overlooking how amazing 40$ guy was. Their both my top logos

[@nellieburnamprichard4398]

i think $40 was great too but that $135 just was over the top

[@somyaa8993]

I see how everybody is ignoring 40$ he already came with the concept of m and s in the meditation body and the landscape, I think he's equally awesome but his style just a bit more different.

[@laraseren4994]

Y E S, I think his logo of the person meditating is even better cause the other one looks like a penis when sized down ☠️☠️☠️

[@abomination6393]

$40 guy was great, altho the first mountain logo highkey looks like the logo of a ski mountain lmao

[@BriannaTerese]

Agreed, I liked the meditating body designs from both of them.

[@taylorfredrickson7750]

$135 is the best. That is unreal quality and effort for that price. I feel a bit self-conscious charging what I do now 😅

[@ScottHillberry]

The $135 design got me legitimately excited for this pretend app

[@ritzkashyap8288]

It feels like you're justifying the $450 you spent. Also $40 is underpriced for that concept.

[@PJWalmsley]

Agreed. Frankly, none of these were that terrible (cheap or 'expensive'), but the variation was pretty high. I don't want to see people not be paid, but at the same time the $135 guy was clearly the best. Factoring in COL and things become really skewed in coronavirus times.

[@pyr0747]

I kind of liked the 450$ one I feel like it had the most depth

[@pyr0747]

@@h.d.h no, I don’t think it’s the best by any means but people are just calling it bad

[@DoodleDust]

Sorry I'm 4 months late to this comment, kinda just stumbled across this video randomly, but I wanted to agree with both you and PyR0. Similar to what PyR0 said, the $450 logo was beautiful in my opinion, such a lovely concept and very pretty. However, something that confused me was how Will completely contradicted himself (and I'm certainly no expert, so maybe there's something I'm missing). With all of them he criticized the logos for having too much depth and detail and then with the last one he praised it for having... a lot of depth and detail? Just didn't make sense to me and I thought it was weird. I personally love the design, but not for an app logo.

[@The-Perchance]

Yeah, the critiques doesn't seem that genuine

[@abandonedmuse]

3 & 5 were amazing. Loved them both. I think in the end if I was this CEO I would go with 3 because it is the simplest, the cleanest and the most design friendly but I would keep 5 for maybe extra promo materials in the future. Maybe when we add some new features. The rest - especially number 4 were pretty blah in my opinion. I liked 1 the most out of those other 3. And not the one you picked bc it looks like Facebook Meta.

[@loomonda18]

Favourite logo, presentation & layout - $135 wins for sure! So professional and so helpful to see!!

[@samuelho89]

Me 2!

[@haileymacisaac5089]

The $70 one totally took the elements and idea from Canva. I’ve seen the identical logo

[@srishtimadan1560]

I'd give a million dollars to my client if they gave me a brief this clear XD

[@Kate-vo3uk]

The first guy is definitely not charging enough, he’s shown to have too much talent to be charging that low

[@NoGoodDirtyRicer]

A6 Designs did an incredible job. I love how they showed you the thought and process behind the final product. As well as giving you everything from different app icon shapes to advertising to clothing, very well done.

[@kitthekat6844]

This is really cool! I'd love to see more of that! My favorite was 135$ guy!

[@cmykimberly]

6:13 logo price number 3 at $135 is waaaayyy underselling their talent. Compared to all the other designers this person delivered the brief best, but they either need to offer less or put their price up.

[@samuelho89]

So True!

[@debasishchapeyar4826]

he might be a rookie ...

[@wyatthankins2544]

Crazy how the same instructions can yield different results; funny how the mind works.

[@ramzichouk4080]

Am obsessed with this kind of videos , i watched illustrators , animators , beatmakers , editors and retouchers I have to admit there is always one that's more creative than the others

[@deepei8572]

My favorite is the $135 one. The brief, concept, explanation, etc are really on point - as well as the simplification of the logo. Awesome video btw!

[@Glowbox3D]

Firstly, thank you for this video--with a degree in design, I find Fiver fascinating and infuriating. I love to see the spectrum, but honestly, as said a myriad times, the $135 guy way undersold himself (a.k.a. 'lowball') and did way more work than he needed. So, this is essentially what we compete with on Fiver. People who lowball and work way harder than they should to seal the deal. Way less than minimum wage as a graphic designer ain't my cup'a. My 2cents. Good luck designers!

[@knast7093]

Would love to see this comment at the top. Obviously this is a promotional bit for Fiverr, so I'm guessing it's not possible for Will to be critical of a platform which strives on underbidding the market. It just seems problematic, in an almost paradoxical way, to promote this platform as a designer.

[@ZikarOwazaaif]

very well pointed.

[@AYEGEEArt]

Understandable that they charge that way since peeps are more on Quality and cheaper prices. They did deserve to charge more but they need to have multiple clients at a time to earn for a living. The 450$+ is almost a gamble ,of course there are lots that would rather find cheaper ones. So many competition,that kind of charge is understandable.

[@NewEarthAwakening]

The thing is you don't know what country the designer is from, which makes a huge difference in what the artist is actually receiving for their work in terms of their regional cost of living.

[@giyutomioka8579]

Facts!!

[@viz.on7]

Hands down "A6design" (135$) did an amazing job! He's really talented and you can see the perfectionism in his work and the workflow, everything was made with thought and precise, did the resource and presented everything in mockups. Well done, he need to charge much more! The other guys, I'm sorry to say but they need to quit it was embracing to watch... not proportional, wrong types, wrong color palettes, no connection between the text and the icon, very cliche designs as you said and it just looks very bad and not professional.

[@hejalll]

The budget ones weren't bad. They charge a tiny amount of money honestly, it seems like you're expecting them to perform on par with the rest

[@ashtheintroverted7204]

Yeah I would probably charge about $30, because I know I won't be up to par with the others. You get what you pay for, my dude.

[@pinkmuffin9842]

I strongly disagree. If I'm on a tight budget the first designer will do just fine. Those people aren't working for a million dollar company where you expect perfection and if I can get an absolutely decent looking logo for 30$ then this is an amazing deal.

[@c.y.hollander5592]

How can I take your opinion seriously when you gush over one designer and call the others cliché, even though the the first designer (Marioland) offered a design almost identical to the one you praise?

[@mica8701]

what a pretentious attitude

[@ultimatefrisbeewindhoeknamibia]

3rd guy wins in every category.

[@kakarabreu]

i'm the only one who HATED the 450? I totally disagree that fit's in a app. When you show in small size, you cant even tell what is that o.O. and is not leaves... is a lotus flower, simbolism of lot of zen things. But yeah, cliche.

[@madhousenetwork]

Yeah he didn't even get it was a lotus. He also missed to notice the river in shape of S in the first logo

[@chalcedonycoral1943]

My personal opinion: logo wouldn't work as an app button (I've just moved my phone away to get a proper size... and I can't see what's going on there) but it's amazing, mindblowing logo for game or book or typography or a central piece of hero block on homepage. It's very creatice and magical.

[@lollik123]

Wouldn't pay over 5 dollars for that logo...

[@Victorsandergamer]

what do you mean, that's the head guy, there's nothing lotus there the one that did the green icon lotus one was the $70,00 lady (i guess from the channel's creator calling them a 'she') i don't understand people shitting on the $450 guy, it's pretty good and pretty simple

[@lollik123]

@@Victorsandergamer IMO it's way to detailed and looks dated

[@UserExperienceVlog]

It's not necessary people who charge high for work their output would be great. 135 guy is gave you more than 450 guy.

[@AryanKumar-jo1pz]

Will: Mindscape Manscape: Am I a joke to you?

[@AlexIsiv]

oh man, 450 is a no go, it's so saturated, good luck trying to convert that into a stamp, embroidery, and other small formats, it just doesn't work.

[@aizhan229]

Exactly!

[@patitboi]

Can anyone explain why tho ? What will happen ?

[@nadeen6968]

@@patitboi printers don't have as many colours as a monitor - and gradients are really hard to make in traditional mediums that aren't paint- in stamps you get a really tiny among of colours (usually 1) it be hard to pick which parts get to be coloured in And even if it was made well - it would just be a blur (Having said that i really love that illustration)

[@patitboi]

@@nadeen6968 ooo i see thanks man ❤️

[@defjon667]

@@nadeen6968 I agree, it's a nice illustration but not a logo, unless it's not meant to be produced as anything else but a RGB screen graphic.

[@jiriq8853]

I have to say the $135 version was totally worth it, I love his logo and I love the presentation! He must have put so much work into creating the logo, I think he could ask for even more money

[@ithaca2076]

$135 guy is proof that something can be good, but the way you present it can make is 10000x better

[@emmanuelncube3129]

The $135 designer nailed it. The logo and presentation is just on point 🔥

[@eduardoluisrl]

$135???? The guy should receive all the money you spent giving to the others "designers" wtf, the guy did a perfect job.

[@samuelho89]

Agree!

[@AH-vf2np]

You can tell the $135 guy is an experienced designer, everything g from the presentation, to the logo, the type.. he nailed it. Top work!

[@anyabess2169]

The $135 guy was the best! I was absolutely impressed!

[@excellenceadigun9093]

£450 was good, but had too much detail. Reduce the number of stars a bit or turn the face to full-portrait (IT takes more effort to recognise a face side-portrait so it looks like there’s more detail in it), reduces the number of gradient depths: doing any one of those things would make the logo that much better, but my vote goes to Mr £135 👌🏾 He needs to charge more for his logos, and I feel like I need to charge way more for mine

[@maomi3672]

The $135 guy did so much... He undercharged himself by a lot!!

[@evanswanjau]

After doing all that work for $135 and the client goes "Uum were not really liking that direction"

[@fredjung]

He was paid. But also that is why he should not undervalue his work. Then the rest of us are expected to work for this amount and we live in boxes barely making a living.

[@VanillaSnake21]

Everyone is saying the guy for $135, but the $40 guy basically had the same exact logo with about 4 other variations. He wins hands down.

[@tototaros]

why everyone's gushing over $135 is that you can see his thought process. it's not a trial and error thing, with 4 variations that designer is basically trying his luck. okay if they don't like the first design there are 3 more to choose from, at least one of it will get selected versus $135 guys he already has a vision for this and got it right down to how the logo and the typeface can be used for even merch production. i know this because when im confident with an idea, i only need one to sell and it's convincing enough but when im not confident, I'll give multiple options and let the other party rationalize it on their own.

[@ferdinandrosal5287]

@@tototaros looks like you dont know the principles of logo design and how it works

[@tototaros]

@@ferdinandrosal5287 nah i do, i did logo design before but working in creative agency that's so fast pace and with how things are very convenient nowadays with platform such as fiverr, you want to be efficient and client can be very fickle-minded. so the more options you give to them, the harder it is to move on to the next stage. 4 options is too much but hey, whatever works really. if you already have one great idea that actually works, why bother creating more than necessary.

[@idkidk5229]

@@tototaros Yeah. I agree with you. Most clients want a logo that meets their needs. They don't want to get overwhelmed with choices. Some people need to understand that general clients are not Graphic designers. The 135$ guy showed everything that a client needs. He showed what the logo would look in deferent scenario. Which makes it easy for a client to decide.

[@c.y.hollander5592]

@@tototaros You talk like it's a bad thing to offer choices, but I think it's a good thing. Not everyone has exactly the same taste, and offering 4 strong concepts to choose from is better than offering one strong concept.

[@miscellaneousmoon327]

Man, I could watch these Fiverr videos forever, I usually don't even care what it's about, I just love seeing what different people do when given the parameters to do so.

[@NouammAA]

To be honest, the $450 ones liked the least, I'm not an pro on logos but if I were to create a logo for an app like this I would stay away from the details as much as possible, it's really not relaxing to look at something complicated. I would go for really curvy simple lines... The typeface for the last one also seemed out of place near the logo. I would be really disaapointed if I spent $450 on that...

[@steve_the_designer]

This was a great exercise, Will - thanks for sharing. I agree with most, that the $135 guy (A6) won, albeit slightly over the $450 guy (mods needed). His typography was excellent. Old schoolers like me cringe at the current state of design, and how you can get good work for next to nothing. The landscape has definitely changed.

[@Lightflames85]

The guy that took 135 knows marketing and how the market works. He lowered the price to gain exposure. It worked like a charm.