I Played 6v6 Again and it's ACTUALLY better than 5v5

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[@38_Caliber]

1:48 Just the fact that a tank died and your team didn't immediately get rolled alone shows why 6v6 was better for the game

[@MontageHustle]

Yeah cause retreating had absolutely nothing to do with that 😐

[@Noodle177]

@@MontageHustlenah, theyre right. even if dps and supports retreat they can easily clean up the rest of the team. in 6v6 they have a full charged zarya to worry about protecting them.

[@MrGrreatness]

I wonder why, maybe it's because the attacking team was on Hog/Zar and didn't push hard enough to clean up lmao 6v6 is trash

[@gunny-lneck4352]

@@MontageHustleyou are the problem with the community I see you everywhere hating on 6vs6 you are trying to actively make the game worst shit is funny to read

[@merokrl]

@@MrGrreatness cope

[@Pekara121]

Imagine if all content creators banded together and made 6v6 content

[@sycom-]

They did already, there was like 2 weeks where they just ran pubs in samitos lobby. But since it’s not comp, it was getting stale, and they also weren’t ranking up on regular ladder. But apparently samito is doing it again for the whole season now.

[@ytsweatzy9051]

@@Yotubez lol seriously who are you slime

[@philliptraum2788]

@@ytsweatzy9051 Check his post history on this channel. Either it is schizophrenic or it’s an AI that accuses others as AI. The difference is moot, it’s just an object built to break down civility.

[@ytsweatzy9051]

@@philliptraum2788 yk after doing some articling this man is definitely a shizophrenic ai terrorizing others with that bio

[@seanthegamer46_80]

Most of them are paid to say 5v5 is better so that won’t really happen again anytime soon

[@xPKxGamer]

Crazy how a second tank makes it to where mauga actually needs a brain to play

[@slycat7920]

he just ran in and killed everyone??

[@xPKxGamer]

@@slycat7920once or twice after they were down people yes But whenever he tried to just rush in like mauga can now, he gets obliterated

[@Luciferthekingofpurgitory]

@@xPKxGamermauga can’t run in if you have more then a single brain cell and just kill his supports instead of shooting directly at mauga

[@PhatBastard4677]

​@Luciferthekingofpurgitory yeah just kill the Bap or Kiriko or Lucio or Moira or Illari or Brig or Lifeweaver it is just that easy man they're just fucking sitting ducks man

[@Ex3ox]

@@Luciferthekingofpurgitoryreal

[@marginis]

Y'know, it's common to hear about how 6v6 changes the dynamics of the game, from reducing counter-swapping to making the game less steamroll-y, but that's going too deep in the metagame I think. You gotta remember the simple stuff, like that tank combos are just really fun, and can only happen in 6v6.

[@ForceOfWill100]

Also being solo tank is just fundamentally stressful. You have to do everything, while also feeling like you can never make risky plays because if you go down it's all over. I played this custom mode, and it was the first time I felt like I could just relax and play tank since OW2 came out.

[@vape42069]

6v6 also helps with counterswap mitigation. like if im on doom and i get slept, hacked or hooked, a zarya bubble would mitigate all that bs lol

[@faxmine]

Bro imagine how crazy some tank combos would go???? Imagine stuff like mauga/dva or zarya/ram. It'd be so awesome 😭

[@marginis]

@@faxmine Like imagine how insane Mauga Queen could be. There are so many combos with new tanks that have never been tried before, it would be a huge refresh for the game.

[@purplerainPR]

reducing counterswapping? too optimistic. if 6v6 did come to the game it would take abt a week for players to figure out the counters and then the game would still feel like sh.t. OW has a dev balancing issue not a 5v5 issue

[@bad.D]

Blizzcon 2024: *Announcing Overwatch Classic* just 5999 Overwatch Coins

[@ChaosMTF]

Nah, 4000 mythic prisms

[@Poopfart811]

Bro i play lots of games and believe it or not, overwatch has good prices compared to other games

[@shoppingcart238]

imagine they actually try and charge for 6v6 mode

[@ascientistanengineer8038]

Well, people have paid for the original overwatch, so that means we can. (I personally purchased three accounts in ow1)

[@Dfm25387]

Hahah omg ypur probably right too

[@dubtron_]

The game was literally DESIGNED for 6v6, then they try to take out one of the two tanks that every team had and scramble to try to balance the awkward mess of solo tanking. Really painful and sad to watch Blizzard struggle with such dumb decisions, man

[@bui3415]

It wasn't designed for 2 tanks. It was actually designed for no limits. You know, multiple Tracers and whatever. And newer maps were not designed for 6v6 anyway, so it's irrelevant.

[@ezacklee115]

Lucky activision got sold. Because it was Ex Activision that did that

[@dubtron_]

@@bui3415 the majority of the time spent building up Overwatch 1 was with role queue. That means it spent more time building a foundation for 6v6 having 2 on each role, more than it was for open queue. I also never said anything about Overwatch 2 maps, just stated that Blizzard has been making really bad decisions

[@liammbiscwit]

So you basically are just saying things to say things as there was never just 2 tanks or made for 2 tanks? Did you play overwatch 1 much because you don't know why you want 6v6.. its the whole comment section just a big exho chamber because they aren't having fun. So they just blame 6v6 etc ... everyone hating the game now will still hate it 6v6

[@Redfire1109]

@@liammbiscwit most people hating on the game now are the very few tank players left cause it sucks or sucked to play tank which it will again after this season cause dps will cry tank can actually put up a fight i can't easily farm ult off them anymore like the last past 10 season lol if all the tank players leave OverWatch is dead will just be a worse version of CoD with Ults xD and yes game had no limit for a season then role que was put into place cause even devs said they didnt want 6 dps running around but a team fighting together so the bata 2-2-2 was put into game in season 2 or 3 to stop things like goats and 6 dps which was boring as heck to play as

[@shmo0vin218]

Shocker having a tank duo would be fun

[@georgeousthegorgeous]

For tanks, maybe, but all the DPS can do in 6v6 is literally shoot shields 90% of the time, while supports get all of their kill potential taken away by the impenetrable shield wall on main and flex tanks hunting them on the flanks.

[@TheShapingSickness]

It isn't. Notice how Jay3 failed each time he tried main tank and always switched to off tank. He even started asking some of the tank buffs back 😂 This is 6v6, nobody will want to play main tank and queues would be 20+ minutes.

[@steveisahorriblename]

@@georgeousthegorgeousso maybe nerf sheilds or rework heroes, if you noticed 2x shield was orisa sig and orisa no longer has a shield and is completely fine i doubt rein sig would be all that great and ram barely sheilds in the 1st place

[@kollekciorozsdas6110]

@@georgeousthegorgeousTanks have it really bad since ow2. It would be time they enjoy the game

[@georgeousthegorgeous]

@@kollekciorozsdas6110 tanks should enjoy the game, not stomp every other role without chances. They shouldn’t be punching bags, rather a DPS with better CC, lower damage and higher health.

[@Kizunoto]

Yo this 6v6 experiment looks pretty cool, wonder what Overwatch would look like if they added it

[@kushpakk2210]

it would look like old overwatch. the GOOD overwatch

[@KaffeineAddict]

I’ve been playing this mode for a long time now and it’s honestly just so much more fun. The only problem is, not many low rank players have discovered it so I’m playing with people much better than me.

[@justinchase7663]

Would look so much better. 5v5 sucks dick

[@breezy3176]

Overwatch 1

[@TheKillerman3333]

It would look worse, for everyone. Ballenceing would be harder on devs. Queue times would be harder on players. Due to long dev cycles of patches, players would leave the game be use figuring out what the issues are would be more nuisance. This will lead to people leaving the game. So basically everything happening in overwatch 1, unfortunately.

[@spew42]

imo not only is it more fun to play, but it's so much more fun to watch as well

[@-cactus.raven-]

It’s what I missed abt ow content

[@probablysteven1325]

I’ve been arguing with my friends about that, I enjoy watching 6v6 more, its why I don’t really watch the flats spectating bronze anymore 😢

[@spew42]

@@probablysteven1325 I feel ya. I've recently gone through a lot of older supertf vids from like 2019-2021, and they're just so much more stimulating to watch! Not only that, but the overall attitude of people was also noticeably better, as in people tended to be less frustrated by the game and less toxic when interacting in voice. (Though to be fair, there's a LOT of reasons as to why that is the case, more than just 6v6 vs 5v5) OW1 was all about getting creative with "proactive plays", whereas OW2 is a lot more "reactionary" in it's moment to moment decision making, which to me is soooo much less interesting to follow. I get the Devs wanted the game to be more casual friendly, as OW1 was a seriously complex game for the masses, but idk, that was such a big part of why so many loved that game to begin with, myself included.

[@donovan4222]

Right? Like in 5v5 Jay wouldn’t be able to sit on that off angle as Hog and hook people into the hole because his team would get rolled on the frontline. But since there’s another tank, hog can actually play where he is supposed to play as an off tank. And he can die because his he doesn’t have 1000hp with dmg mitigation

[@patrickrodriguez8797]

Huh, I just realized why I stopped watching Overwatch League when they transitioned into OW2. Sure, the DPS and Supports are fun to watch when they popped off, but I felt like having a single tank put an emphasis on solo performance more than the team play aspect of the game.

[@silverfoxxdaddy]

That many environmental kills would TILT me into switching for sure. You gapped TF outta that guy

[@webbacon7106]

Honestly it's more of a Defense gap cuz he had access to environmental kills and the attacking team didn't. Map design diff

[@servantofyeshua2313]

Took em to gapplebees

[@aacmbirdzilla2343]

6v6 is the comp this game was designed for originally, not only does it look more entertaining, the teams even look better coordinated and actually looks like a team

[@PunchM3]

Not to mention players are actually getting punished for poor positioning compared to what it is currently in ow2.

[@georgeousthegorgeous]

@@PunchM3 in 6v6 DPS are punished for any positioning whatsoever, it ain't fun when you are getting dived by 2 enemy DPS on flank while trying to run away from 800HP enemy ball or Rein or whatever.

[@TheShapingSickness]

They're all on comms. This is not the average matchmaking experience. Also notice how Jay3 failed each time he tried main tank and always switched to off tank. He even started asking some of the tank buffs back 😂 This is 6v6, nobody will want to play main tank and queues would be 20+ minutes.

[@Zelorp]

@TheShapingSickness Maybe they could, and hear me out… make a fun main tank? Instead of just making a Reinhardt variant?

[@inchikkkk]

How about they just make it random queueing. You won’t know what role you’ll play so that the queue times will be shorter, that way everyone would get to play certain roles and eventually will practice on other roles and get better on them.

[@keboardsmashingnoises]

I think I'm on the 6v6 train now.

[@IHJello]

Notice how this game isn't on the midseason patch?

[@fallengamer1946]

@@IHJellowhy would 6v6 be on the new patch? Lol, they would nerf everything for 6v6

[@TheShapingSickness]

Notice how Jay3 failed each time he tried main tank and always switched to off tank. He even started asking some of the tank buffs back 😂 This is 6v6, nobody will want to play main tank and queues would be 20+ minutes.

[@keboardsmashingnoises]

@@TheShapingSickness I'd rather long queues and a better game overall.

[@fallengamer1946]

@@TheShapingSickness obviously people who have played 5v5 would have to adjust to non OP tanks again. But the learning curve would be worth it in the end, cuz raid boss tanks, rock paper scissors meta, would be gone for good.

[@user-lx5gw8mw6y]

you can immediately see how the game is blooming at it's finest in the 6v6 format, it's crazy

[@chuddolomite5]

It's so true. So many more gameplay options. It really adds to the game in a position way.

[@abdx8752]

Look at how he plays hog man. I miss playing hog like that and you just can’t really do that anymore because you don’t have that second tank to frontline for your team instead of you. Even with tank being gigabuffed you just don’t get those gameplay options anymore

[@LiterallySpikeSpiegel]

@@abdx8752Yep because if you aren’t in front of your team most of the time, they just get shredded..

[@IHJello]

Notice how this game mode isn't using the midseason patch? I'm wondering if you would still like 6v6 with the midseason patch

[@chuddolomite5]

@IHJello are you dense or just misinformed? No one would ever put the mid-season patch into a 6v6. The game mode you're watching was balanced specifically for 6v6 to show how much better of a format it is.

[@conquer535]

I'm waiting for 6v6 to come back to play Overwatch "2"

[@RiderZer0]

You’lol probably never play overwatch then at this point. Blizzard overcommitted, I doubt they will invest the money and time to fix their mistake.

[@nathanpray6279]

@@RiderZer0they are literally gonna be discussing 6v6 coming back in their next stream

[@RiderZer0]

@@nathanpray6279 that’s not confirmation. That’s them addressing the 6v6 complaints lol. I’ll believe it when I see it.

[@MrWicked360]

@@RiderZer0 The tide is shifting. More and more of the big content creators are endorsing 6v6 and playing 6v6 lobbies. Its just embarrassing for blizzard at this point to have your big main people who are supposedly advertising your game intentionally be dodging the format you're trying to push. With that in mind, they can't really keep up with the charade of 5v5 when it seems like the majority of the playerbase is opting for and supporting 6v6. It's an emperor has no clothes situation, and the general feedback from the latest patch indicates that people are clocking to the fact that blizzard aren't able to balance 5v5 as they just keep drastically changing the game every season to try and make it work and it never works out. The community generally now looks as though its a big majority who prefer 6v6. You can't really ignore that, I don't think, if you're blizzard. Its just not sustainable.

[@conquer535]

@@RiderZer0 I still have hope

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

Crazy how if they just balanced 4 HEROES instead of switching entire formats that we’d have at the very least a pretty decent game with 6v6 right now

[@Ozz131]

but they wouldnt be able to call it ow2 and make it free to advertise it so new people play and buy skins and battle pass....money.

[@isaacargesmith8217]

Ironically they even gutted 2 of them to the point they wouldnt work for double shield. Brig and orisa in their current forms would not be built in a way that would make double shield a viable strategy. On top of this, Rammatra himself is not good enough at something like double shield to replace orisa and actively counters it well.

[@Walmartgimp]

not to mention there are a lot more tank options that have kits that can aggress past a shield if not outright break them if need be. JQ, Mauga, and Ram would have been viable answers to oldschool sig orisa shield cheese

[@shade7728]

This is something I've been saying for the longest. I'd rather put up with longer queue times than whatever OW2 is doing

[@IHJello]

Did you not notice how this game isn't on the midseason patch?

[@YeshuaMyGod]

If the OW team just said “We made a mistake, we wanted to deliver a new experience, but the essence of what OW is got lost in translation. So in response to community feedback, we are going back to the core of what OW is, 6v6. We will be providing continuous balance updates to maximize this format. Thank you all for sticking with us, and continuing to provide feedback. Long live OverWatch.” THEY WOULD MAKE SO MUCH MONEY AND OW WOULD REACH NEW HIGHS I PROMISE YOU BLIZZARD. WITH A BIG NOSTALGIC UPDATE/EVENT/COLLAB. YOU GUYS WOULD BE ROLLING IN DOUGH.

[@Xprofessor93]

we need more 6v6 content

[@btd6benjamina467]

6v6 will also indirectly nerf cheaters

[@jamestolliver2836]

🎯This!

[@SirStrikeFreedom]

That's fine? Of course heroes have to get weaker due to the extra hero per team. Another reason why Genji needs to be nerfed

[@uriahthegreat5004]

May I ask how?

[@btd6benjamina467]

@@uriahthegreat5004 more tanks = more protection to squishies

[@ShivamJalali]

I think you mean genji should be buffed ​@@SirStrikeFreedom

[@sadamarie2937]

11:30 i died when he pulled out the oversized measuring cup 💀

[@averaackerson8195]

same lmao i had to double take to make sure i saw correctly

[@CrazyKevin22]

Lmaoooo same 😂😂😂

[@semosesam]

No joke, Ikea sells 500ml and 1L measuring cups that make perfect drinking cups. I use them every day.

[@supremesylva]

11:21

[@lomasharripersad1233]

1 guy listened to the community and made a better gamemofe than an entire dev team who are sucking each other off for 5v5.

[@Palthadur]

I feel like Blizard should add an arcade mode or permanent game mode for 6v6 because THAT looks a lot more fun then what we have to deal with until then end of the season 😢

[@Palthadur]

What I also feel like would be nice is that support might be in a harder position because they have to heal an extra person and they have an extra person that might dive them. Now I've personally played ow1 for a while and honestly 6v6 would feel nostalgic to me.

[@elcage1992]

they would never do that because it means admitting they are wrong if many players go to that mode

[@ayoublk7520]

@@Yotubez you telling me people spend everyday money on their stupid game just to do it themselves hell no they should fix the game that they messed upat the first place

[@hillwoop9101]

@@PalthadurSupports were struggling at the start of 5v5 because there was no second tank to peel for supports. For example, DVA could dm for you but now that theres only one tank, DVA has to always be on the frontline and can’t just walk back to peel and lose all the space

[@TheKillerman3333]

There already is one, and jay3 is playing it already.

[@christianmaxwell2147]

Holy crap, brought me back to the times when Zarya took a tiny bit of skill to play. You had to time those bubbles so much better because of the cooldown timer and target restrictions(can’t double bubble herself or a target).

[@tau-5794]

I think double bubble Zarya could work in 6v6 if the bubbles had only 150 health, balanced out by now having a health-to-charge ratio of 30% instead of the current 20%. You'd be charging your gun more often and faster, but losing out on some sheer survivability.

[@christianmaxwell2147]

@@tau-5794 you’re probably right, my comment was really just to point out that they made her easier to play. I take less pride in being good at the character because it’s just not that hard to play her well anymore.

[@RD-um9dy]

@@tau-5794nah Zara was perfect before they took away any skill expression

[@drew5088]

The amount of countering is so drastically reduced its not even funny. I would queue tank all the time in 6v6

[@sambeasley444]

There was a reason priority tickets became a thing and tank ques were non existent

[@ruthrau8970]

It's quite logic because there's 2 tanks so if 1 dies your team doesn't get rolled over in a instant because there is still another tank to suck up the damage

[@Imaginettes101]

I remember when I first played 5 v 5 on the experimental server in OW1 and thought: "this is ass, I hope they don't implement this" and then they announced they'd do it in OW2. Even while playing the beta, and playing OW2 for a few seasons, the 5v5 dynamic STILL isn't particularly fun. Especially as tank. And I used to play tank frequently OW1 but now I refuse to touch the role :)) (and often the game in general)

[@SmugPrik]

5v5 > 6v6

[@sanban6766]

Best decision you’ve ever made

[@SchakaZuluthecon]

I started playing Overwatch in early 2017 and played my first ranked season with season 4 before role queue and way before any talk about 5v5. Was manly a Tank player and a Reinhartd Main as a 7ft tall german man swinging a hammer around deeply appealed to me. Of course I played my fair share of Offensive, Defensive (Damage) and Support roles but I loved playing as the tank, leading the charge ,soaking up damage, knowing when to be aggressive and push winning the tank battle to send the enemy team into panic. Nothing quite like it. So I was very disappointed when Overwatch 1.5 came out and basically just removed a tank role which, at least from my experience , just lead to the following. Tank queue got longer because those that still wanted to play tank were all competing for single slots. Your choice of Tank was always quite the debate amongst Teammates and often scrutinized even when picking what they wanted and of course in the later stages of my time playing, getting dropped into a match on the team getting rolled because their tank left with a minute on the clock, losing and getting to sit in role queue for another 15 minutes. So after a few seasons, I think just before ramattra or whatever his name is came out, I stopped playing and haven’t watched anything on it since. And what so you know people are complaining about 5v5 and their solution is going back to 6v6? Their just some loot-boxes away from coming full circle and ending this bizarre fever dream that has been OW2 Edit: just some Grammatical changes

[@MyuNeptune]

I quit tank when they swapped to 5v5...it's unplayable in lower elo, cuz you always have someone who can't play the game at all,...and you're a util sponge.

[@Imaginettes101]

@@SchakaZuluthecon Tanks in OW2 are having to MT, OT, and be the Scrub Daddy of the team. I also just miss being able to off-tank with my girl Zarya and enable my Reins. RIP the tank duo lmfao

[@wolfcat1103]

All these characters that are just broken and unfun in 5v5(ex: mauga) actually look like they might be fun and BALANCED in a 6v6 environment environment.

[@IHJello]

You're forgetting the midseason tank patch

[@yarn7344]

​@@IHJellocant they just revert it 😂😂😂😂

[@t.7124]

@@IHJello it was a mistake

[@TheShapingSickness]

Notice how Jay3 failed each time he tried main tank and always switched to off tank. He even started asking some of the tank buffs back 😂 This is 6v6, nobody will want to play main tank and queues would be 20+ minutes.

[@czikentv1388]

​@@TheShapingSicknessnow imagine that your only option is main tank and you actually doing twice as much work. Thats 5v5. Its literally worse thing by your own logic (which is backed up by current queue times, which come close if arent worse than they ever were)

[@missnejjen]

Everyone talks about how it seems more fun to play tank, but as a support main, watching you being able to play Ana against double divers is what's selling me on 6v6 even if I've never played OW1

[@zechariahcaraballo8765]

Right, even the other roles become a bit more interesting with another tank this is fire

[@vergilsgamingchair8772]

I've also never played OW1 but just thinking about speeding a bubbled Reinhardt into point, oh the brawl possibilities.

[@antcig]

@@vergilsgamingchair8772 Careful however, the tank should be far weaker in 6 vs 6, so you are no longer a raid boss

[@vergilsgamingchair8772]

@@antcig Heck yeah, I would need to learn the fundamentals again. But anything over Mauga x Mauga 😭😭

[@Hxnnibe3]

In overwatch 1, the tanks were split up into off tanks and main tanks Characters like ana were alot better to play back then because when you got dived by an enemy, it was the off tanks job to "peel for the supports" aka if im playing dva, because of my speed boosters and damage denial, i would play aggro until i was called to peel and protect an ana from say, genji. 6v6 allows for this because tanks in 5v5 cant really peel, they need to constantly be at the front line taking space. But with two tanks, someone like reinhardt could hold the line while dva, ball, hog, Winston, ect peeled

[@adventuroushermit2590]

Proof that tanking is fun when 2 people do 2 peoples jobs instead of 1 doing 2

[@IHJello]

Proof that if you ignore the midseason patch AND play on 6v6.. you'll think 6v6 is better bc it's an improper comparison

[@kyleledeadboi6810]

​@@IHJellofound the cross eyed dps main

[@aephos.overwatch]

@@IHJello I've been a long-time adamant 5v5er but my man this mid season patch wasn't enough. I'm not calling it bad or for 6v6v, but it's just not enough. The 6v6ers might just be onto something.....

[@vergilsgamingchair8772]

​@@aephos.overwatchI just really want tank to be fun so more people play it. I had to make a smurf to play comp because on Master 3 I'm already getting 18min on support (unless I'm playing after midnight, but sleep is more valuable).

[@kietwilams3529]

6v6 was also something that set Overwatch apart from other games

[@kaesiegril9987]

Jay3 should make a 6v6 tournament to see how it plays in a competitive playstyle.

[@connor.chan.jazzman]

It plays wonderfully well. 6v6 is competitive ruleset by default and theres a lot of scrims that go on. I agree though, we need one where the matchmaking is equal and its a bunch of top players

[@NotMloki]

why cant 6v6 be a gamemode broo :(

[@kotofelius]

because they need to balance and maintain two game modes at once.

[@MCY112]

what kotofelius said + queue times

[@cryptic7337]

@@kotofelius I think they mean an arcade game mode so you wouldn't need to balance anything just give an extra player slot

[@sycom-]

@@kotofelius brother, it could be a balanced mode in 1 hour of coding, they literally have all the old coding from ow1, they legit just copy and paste the format into ow2, tweak the new characters that they added manually. And it’s a finished product. Or.. if they don’t wanna have every character changed back to ow1, they just nerf tank health like they did with open queue, remove the dumbass tank passive like the armour and damage reduction. And there you go, the tanks would probably still be strong, but it would work fine.

[@CalamariZander]

@@sycom-there are new heroes and reworked abllites what youre saying doesnt work

[@masondrake4272]

Haven't played OW in while but this legit has me considering picking it back up. Didn't realize just how much I missed 6v6

[@caesarg418]

I’ll take double shield all day instead of the Elden Ring boss tanks we have right now

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

Elden Ring bosses are more fair and reward skill expression because anyone with skill could technically beat any boss. That’s not the case with Overwatch and 5v5 because the game is dumbed down. Half of the execution comes from the abilities themselves and not the actual players (like OW1 did)

[@ur0b0r0sXL]

thats the thing, there will be no (viable) double shield in ow2 6v6. only rein, ram and sigma have shields, its simply better

[@thegreatslayer7685]

Lol 6v6 would just make it more likely to have elden ring boss tanks

[@kamyn3627]

@@thegreatslayer7685bruh wdym throughout the video he dies EXTREMELY quickly if he makes a mistake 😭 5v5 is where they have Fire Giant from Elden ring bosses like current hog

[@RealEllenDeGeneres]

@@thegreatslayer7685 That's not true entirely. I forget what the meta is called, but basically your team plays bunched up. If the team plays like that and you have healers like Bap and Lucio/Moira/Ana, you can sustain the extra damage of another tank on the enemy team. But if your team is more dive-y, or just not playing together, then the added damage from a second tank will make it too much for 2 supports to sustain, so the tanks will inevitably feel less tanky in that scenario. But this was also why 6v6 sucked as attackers. The defenders would post up with double shield and be grouped up, so they could have really good sustain by bap splashing multiple teammates, or ana nading her whole team. While attackers are going to be more exposed and separated while moving.

[@ur0b0r0sXL]

whats this? NO double shield comp in sight? things die in neutral without needing to farm ults? mauga/hog not nearly as oppressive as 5v5ers claim they would be? a custom game mode with less resources than the dev team, yet took no time at all to make? just pure unadulterated fun, regardless of any imperfections? ...yes, THIS is footage of the 6v6 we've been pushing for all this time. take a good look, and ask yourself what's really right for this game. :) edit, really tired of dismantling random people's regurgitated 5v5 talking points, you can yell at a cloud but i'm not gonna entertain this stuff more than i already have, think what you want

[@Cruxis_Angel]

Fr. If they announce 6v6 they HAVE to use this workshop code as a base. This little 6v6 discord group made better balancing than blizzard has in years

[@chuddolomite5]

​@Cruxis_Angel who made the code? Honestly it does seem better. Seems like every class can still playmaker and it's not solely reliant on one player.

[@catmoonkenobi]

I'm a bit confused because as evidenced by this video, the game provides the capacity for players to make these modes and enjoy them. So what really is there to complain about? If you love this so much, play it. Make custom modes. Do it. You've been pushing for it? It's been available for you to create and play this whole time?

[@Unrealrayvan]

@@catmoonkenobi bro really never thought that people want to play 6v6 in competitive and not with random people in a custom lobby

[@JoeBurner1720]

@@UnrealrayvanHe’s not very bright

[@nanoassassin8645]

icl 6v6 defo looks so fun. Whatever they were smoking when making that patch was crazy, no one was asking for tanks to get buffed into the wazoo. I'm telling you they did it to make people buy the skins lol.

[@malachite9071]

100%, got the ultrawatch cass skin and the DAY it’s outta the shop they nerfed him lmao.

[@TheKillerman3333]

Nah. I had been complaining for years about how bad tank was. Reinhardt had to be buffed 9 times just to make him playable. Playable, not competitive. Huge difference. During the arcade modes, his buffs were huge, showing the huge gap between playability and competability.

[@nanoassassin8645]

@@TheKillerman3333 but we need to see it holistically. Idm Rein but other tanks who were already strong had no right to get giga buffed

[@TheKillerman3333]

@@nanoassassin8645 From a holistic view, i think that no one really lost out. some tanks were strong before this, but the issue is, when they died, the party suffered which is one of the reasons that people wanted 6v6. however now that tanks are giga buffed, as people put it, the biggest issues with tanks disapear becuase now it is "harder" to kill tanks. Except, it isn't harder to kill them. Take Rien. his counters havent changed. Bastion still shatters his sheild quickly, even though it lasts 2 extra seconds. Rein is still a build around hero. Ramatra still lasts just as long. and still is a counter to all sheild heros.

[@AlexTheHorrid]

This mode seems fun because tanks have reasonable health pools

[@Cruxis_Angel]

There’s also no role passives and a LOT of nerfs so characters are more similar to their OW1 state.

[@AlexTheHorrid]

@@Cruxis_Angel that’s awesome

[@bui3415]

@@Cruxis_Angel There are passives. They can't disable that in custom. They might add some effect in the workshop in an attempt to counteract it but it's there.

[@aephos.overwatch]

@@Cruxis_Angel How do you play this mode? There's always no players whenever I search for it.

[@MrChicken_]

@@aephos.overwatch i think i saw a comment saying theres a discord for it but idk anything more about it

[@user-lh4ii2hb7y]

6v6 is really healthy for this game

[@Swordsmith_]

Mauga/hog ult combo would go crazy

[@Nico-zi8mh]

Just some good coms

[@BeDatAPickle]

Yeah, I wish we got to see it

[@StrongSpirit]

I see 6v6 I click

[@CoxBernthal01]

The title: I played 6v6 again and it’s actually better than 5v5 Me: Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

[@thething6754]

I don't understand, why don't they just add comp and freeplay for 6v6 as well as 5v5, that way players could choose which they want to participate in and when?

[@ghostzandotherguyz]

They will never do both at the same time as splitting the user base will just make both have longer queue times, they would just have to say fuck it 5v5 doesn't work here is 6v6. They would have to fully commit to 6v6 in order move on from 5v5

[@ratm4nn]

queue times are long enough as is especially in higher ranks but if you had to divide that into two modes you could probably be in queue for a day and not find a game

[@JohnIvoryMusic]

Cause nobody is gonna play 5v5 lol

[@Timshivemind]

You would also have to balance both without breaking the other

[@its_lucky252]

@@ghostzandotherguyz it would only be split about 2x. either way worst queue times would be double current, and thats fine with me in qp and diamond

[@zc8673]

I was literally watching 5v5 last night and it looked miserable. This looks like an absolute flipping blast. It seems so nice to not have to constantly worry about every single angle yourself, because you actually have a full team to cover the map. You can actually focus on making plays and doing interesting and fun stuff. I also think that there are too many abilities that you can cancel in OverWatch 2. Having abilities that you cannot cancel forces you to think more about how and when you use them. When I play a game I want to be using my brain and making decisions, not just watching a bunch of animations happen.

[@Jacob-jg6cd]

This is what the game is supposed to look like.

[@Comicsoda99]

Rip ow. We miss you

[@hanasweetie]

@@Yotubez nah bro, actual overwatch is 6v6, anything else is garbage

[@-zod-4882]

​@@YotubezIts soul died since ow2

[@zparmils5679]

When overwatch just has to fix one problem they create more.

[@olegdusov4273]

One more tank passive will surely fix OW2 Currently we have: -headshot reduction -boop reduction -dmg passive effect reduction -ult charge reduction -ana's sleep duration reduction? Anything else I missed?

[@CringeAlarmm]

@@olegdusov4273 buffed armour

[@unoriginalmix8406]

@@olegdusov4273 gotta remember the armor changes too

[@virgil7272]

​@@olegdusov4273 Queue time reduction :P

[@batatanna]

@@olegdusov4273 make it so tanks can make coffee too ig, I'm needing that caffeine.

[@ariexmachina]

Strategy-wise and gameplay-wise, the game was so much deeper as a 6v6.

[@ganymede19]

I feel like rein/queen with a Lucio would just be nuts!

[@BeDatAPickle]

That sounds gloriously broken and I wanna see it now 😂

[@GlavGadLive]

BRING BACK 6v6! So many new cool possible combos and synergy with new OW2 heroes , thats just crazy. Game feels more Alive with 6v6

[@botta88]

Watching this honestly makes me miss 6v6. I was never really partial either way but after this last patch and now watching this I think I really do want it back.

[@theconman5540]

i just played 6v6 with Samito and some other streamers today. it was the most fun ive had with the game since OW1

[@samuraiyeeet]

6v6 will always be superior

[@firesoullv]

I honestly really miss 6v6. And I say that as a support main. I hope Aaron will get the team 4's shit together and bring us the good news soon enough.

[@Perdidu]

I just wanna go back to my flanking stealth hog days, now if i try to do that im "trolling", and they pick mauga to delete me.

[@lukeaustin4465]

People complained about hog players flanking back then but if the hog was good they would turn team fights into a 5v6 real quick.

[@PoolGyall5441]

Isn’t it crazy that despite you being killable on tank, you were still able to take off-angles often and make individual plays that use skill!

[@JJay7042]

Honestly, regardless what your stand is with the 5v5 and 6v6 debate/conversation (Which im a 6v6 advocate ) its fun and refreshing to watch Jay 3 and other streamers play this mode, actually having a good time. It feels like its been a while

[@s0nvr396]

Saw Rein/Zarya, instant smash on the like button

[@winstonsmith9712]

Imagine getting to play tank and not have one bad CD usage be the whole team fight. I miss being able to have a heart rate less than 120 when playing tank cause there’s another player taking some of the heat

[@Kowski78]

Man i miss 6v6😭😭😭

[@TheJunkernaut]

Man this makes the game seem SO much more dynamic and fast paced. Please bliz return the game to the way it was made to be played

[@Batnano]

the way it's meant to be played

[@4HKEdits]

tbh there should be a mode on comp for 5v5 and 6v6

[@Savevade]

The more people who watch 6v6 content will cause the content creators to copy each other and make more stuff showing blizzard how wrong they are

[@Zachary_Milton]

Looks like overwatch again, actually standing a chance with 2 tanks. Not team deathmatch but team play. Idk why they haven't brought this back yet, this looks 10x more fun.

[@drbjr8223]

exactly how i felt watching this, feels like real ow, remove immorts is all from here, a good game again ezpz

[@Blofouebaole]

I think it’s super cool that Mauga doesn’t ruin the game in 6v6. Like, he seems balanced because of the additional damage mitigation from a second tank.

[@whynotanyting]

What's this? My neurons being activated?

[@heitormarcolino2193]

Genius content

[@heitormarcolino2193]

No sarcasm

[@mikemaguire151]

I havent played ow sense they went to 5v5 this mode might actually get me to try a few games i miss ow1 so much

[@Twizzzums]

What a breath of fresh air dude holy shit we need 6v6 back. OW2 is fucking trash in comparison to what it was

[@jonstokes1832]

The only reason I’d choose 6v6 over 5v5 is because you can basically make any comp work in someway

[@SLA275]

I think that a 6v6 in today's changes would be much better than a 5v5, as Overwatch is a game that suits 6 players much more than 5, but it is difficult to balance as there would be a lot of ultimate combos Examples: Any combo like Sigma, ramattra, dva, wrencking ball and orisa along with mauga's ult

[@deriestricyt1460]

Mauga’s ult is worse tho, there is one more person to break it, lucio/bap/zen are still strong against it and if you cage more then 3 you instantly die so, the combos aren’t even gonna be that oppressive

[@Chazza-01]

I don't think it would be "oppressive", it isn't like damage boosted dragon strike + grav combo in the OG days which killed through Transcendence. It just puts importance on having a defensive support ult (which is healthy for the game). And it isn't any different to to something like barrage + cage or high noon + cage or any good DPS ult which probably be better combos due to them being difficult to get value on anyway.

[@vape42069]

ult combos were not an issue at all in ow1, in fact, it was the most satisfying part imo. but also now, you have heros like bap and kiri can help deny the ult combos, which as much as i hate those heros, i would be more fine with them in 6v6 over 5v5. and even so, people comming, ult tracking, setting up these combos is what made ow1 way better. the game FELT better when these plays were made. and if i was on the receiving end, i never got mad cause i would think "damn i shoulda tracked that better" or "props, they timed that perfectly". the only ppl who like 5v5 are people who should just be playing valorant and people who do not have a brain/like to think.

[@SLA275]

@@Chazza-01 There is also another problem, which is that the DPS or Supports cannot do anything because the tanks are absurdly strong, even more so in this latest update. Just imagine 6v6 with the changes in tanks. Now a nerf would be very necessary If Blizzard wants to return to 6v6

[@P0rk666]

5v5 really gave in on synergy. How tanks could interact with one another is what made OW great.

[@daunt9577]

Wow, I’m 1:09 in and I’ve only played ow2 before and I got to say this actually looks like a great time ngl. I’ve always doubted the troubles of 5v5 being as harsh as they say it is but this gameplay, it looks fun

[@tmgsnjt18]

i'm sorry that you missed ow1, it truly was an amazing experience. I would go as far as to say it was one of the best multiplayer games ever made...not anymore though. It's a soulless cash grab like everything else seems to become these days, what a waste.

[@BeDatAPickle]

You should watch some old OW1 vids so that you can really see the difference.

[@tallercookie1188]

That first fight was precisely what the game should look like, except for the immortality fied

[@RealEllenDeGeneres]

8:43 Is pure comedy. He's like "I'm gonna ult, then you're gonna whole hog" with their Ana saying they almost have nano. Hog proceeds to nano hog before Jay even begins to charge in for his ult, then gets grav'd and Jay decides it's worth it to cage the entire team around the corner and make it a 1v5 and dies. If this is ex-OWL gameplay, then I should consider trying out for the league lmao.

[@JRSmileyFace]

im now an advocate for 6v6. i was diehard for 5v5. then i played a mode like this and instantly had fun.

[@LEXANNEPIANO]

We need 6v6, but glad there’s something like this for now.

[@Maha1313]

I miss rein/zarya and dva/winston so much

[@salihnu]

What if, we make 6v6 unofficial ranked, where someone tracks the wins and losses and there is a forum where you can check your rank like in the old days? Like, doing what the community im tf2 did before gun mettle and matchmaking.

[@datonemedic4699]

In the 6v6 discord am in, it does track your winrate and It has a ranked mode.

[@itsironicgaming]

Crazy they went Winston and Doom dive, while your DPS kept playing Tracer and Widow xD

[@uriahthegreat5004]

I don't wanna be that guy but 5v5ers always mad when 6v6 enjoyers are having fun.

[@ThatGuyInTheBack007]

It feels like those that argue for 5v5 are coming from being in an abusive relationship moving into OW2. The whole origin of the game was 6v6 and synergy. When they made the change to 5v5 it screwed up MANY things (balance, the core value of the game, etc) and they scrambled to try to make it something.

[@annac6194]

People rediscovering main/off tanks is such a joy. Been playing overwatch since the end 2016. I know a lot of it is nostalgia but with 6v6 it just felt more like a team. Instead of 4 people hiding behind the tank. As soon as the tanks down, the team is basically done. You spend so much time waiting for your tank, it's wasted playtime basically. :(

[@user-uv6qu3wb5d]

Nobody wants to play the main tank tho, literally no one. The que times would be crazy long. They would have to gut most tanks and make them ass to play as seen in the video with Zarya

[@adamthune6430]

you should get together 12 good players and try this again!

[@PRESPOVERTY]

With the 6v6 the game really comes to life especially when it comes to the map. It feels like every lane there is something going on rather than only main and maybe 1 off angle being taken by a dps this looks so fun.

[@AShadyDoctor]

Another person converting to 6v6 I love it.

[@mrsouryes]

Imagine playing ow in 2024 and thinking 6v6 is what it needs when it should’ve never been removed in the first place

[@desprometido]

that ana is the goat, huge nanos

[@Shi-Shi01]

I appreciate the cooldown numbers added lol

[@user-wk1kp8lf6p]

Overwatch devs just don’t know how much more money they’ll make if 6v6 is back

[@Ozz131]

if they could only hear this....they might actually swallow their pride, eat their failure, and make so much money. advertisment would be crazy nostalgic OW1 IS BACK! PLAY 6V6 AGAIN! and a remake of assult maps.

[@ncascini01]

6 v 6 is the superior game.

[@willypv]

Gee, who would have thought that 6v6 is better than 5v5?? Not me, I love being miserable playing my favorite hero and going against no skill hero’s…

[@kingapple5512]

Did I just watch this man drink from a measuring mug, Absolute unit

[@follower8815]

I’ve never played 6v6 but it sounds so fun

[@mekazikinomomo]

With the new tank buffs 6v6 has never looked so good. Thank you Jay

[@TheSackersLounge]

@@Yotubez?

[@connor.chan.jazzman]

Its even better since the team behind the 6v6 lobbies constantly make balance patches much like Blizzard does, except that they actually address real issues in the game and know how to balance things well

[@original_demonic]

I wish i was around for 6v6 for one main reason…TANKS NEED THEIR OWN HELP! Two DPS, two support, one tank. The tank has to hide and peel and manoeuvre so much more than what some of them can because of their kit. You ever tried running or peeling back as an Orisa? All you can do is save cooldowns and hopefully not die if you need out.

[@hazedxp2300]

Bruh that first round was actually dubious. There was so many hog pulls of the map it was fantastic

[@AlexTommo]

6v6 on King's Row... All that OW1 nostalgia just hitting me like a freight train.

[@TESTxTICKLES]

4:42 !6v6 7HSKW MAKE OW GREAT Again.

[@Jigsaw090]

Just watching this made my day ! Bring back 6v6 !

[@Malibu6.12.]

“Guess what you can’t fly again “😂😂😂 💀

[@bocephusjangleson5515]

Heck that might be the best hog gameplay I've ever seen