I Played The BAD Batman Arkham Games So You Don't Have To

[@JsReviews]

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[@Young_Special]

Loving your reviews for Batman, dude! But i question, really? When are you gonna start on insomniac's iteration on the Spider-Man! I believe they're heading a good route, similar to what rocksteady did for their Batman.

[@StarWolf5298]

Funny thing is, Blackgate is the game that easily puts the most effort into delivering an actual Joker bossfight in the entire series. 1 of those "let that sink in" moments.

[@gokublack9724]

The more you know

[@jit1709]

asylum final boss

[@vengefulcurse3404]

*opens door for sink*

[@joshuanelson6795]

Does the Joker boss battle in the Matter of Family DLC with Batgirl and Robin count? Even though it wasn't with Batman, it was still a fun fight. Certainly not the best in the series but far from the worst.

[@Arkhamman2023]

@@joshuanelson6795 For Arkham Knight standards that’s like an S tier boss fight.

[@DinoDave150]

To think that both Origins and Blackgate would end up teasing a Suicide Squad game from WB Montreal, only for that to completely fall through and another one made by Rocksteady themselves would see the light of day... only to completely disregard the previous set up and settle for being a looter shooter. Yeah ,that game is DOA.

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

Besides the more unique boss fights, one of the few positives about Blackgate is the fact that you can actually unlock skins instead of having to buy them. Oh, and the plot isn’t hijacked by Joker, for once.

[@TheAzulmagia]

It's crazy that Origins: Blackgate is the sole entry in the series, including Arkham VR and the Suicide Squad movie, where the Joker is just there as an antagonist without being *THE* antagonist.

[@brovideogaming9447]

I loved Arkham VR to death, mainly due to the Riddler content it has, but man was it a wasted idea. It was too short for it's own good, to the point where when it ended I was like: "That's it..? THAT was Arkham VR?!" Needless to say, that experience was great while it lasted, but disappointing when it ended

[@toumabyakuya]

Yeah, it should have been multiple nights were we get to see these changes gradually. For example: - Night 1: Normal dream. - Night 2: Now include the easter egg were things are jokerified randomly and change back to normal when players check them back (just as it happens in AK). - Night 3: Start including random mentions of things Batman doesn't want to happen happening. Especially, make close reference to Robin's death. - Night 4: Hide the joker himself everywhere. - Night 5: This is when everything we saw in VR happens. By doing it like this you add more content and also improve the foreshadowing to AK.

[@brovideogaming9447]

@@toumabyakuya Yeah, you see the problem with that idea? That idea requires thinking and it will cost them more money to make so that's why they didn't do that idea

[@PhillipOnTakos]

The "It's a handheld game" is the video game equivalent of "It's a kids movie". Both of them have a place like you can't do certain things on a handheld or a kids movie, but that doesn't mean it has to be boring and bad. I just never understood these defenses because it devalues good handheld games and good kid films.

[@Roman_the_black_cat]

Gotta agree with ya

[@AimingAtYou]

Njaaaeeeii, I kinda get your point, but I don't really agree with you. I kinda see it like people complaining about sertain movies. Yeah, there wasn't any deapth to the story and emotions in Fast and the Furious, but that is not what it's trying to do - just like the action scenes in Love Acctually was fucking LAAAAME :P You are correct that it is not a complete defence to say "It's a handheld", but at the same time you have to look at the platform and accept its drawbacks. I kinda liked the game, and don't think it sucks. It is not as great as the other games in the series but for a handheld, it's actually a good conversion of the gameplay.

[@kaigen999]

I'm sad Batman Arkham Origins doesn't get the love it deserves. Origins is my favorite game in the franchise.

[@ABCodeX]

“Guys am I the only who likes Arkham Origins”

[@cjdouglas3464]

​@@ABCodeX lmao what are u on about? Lots of people like origins. Just because you don't doesn't mean you speak for everyone.

[@ABCodeX]

@@cjdouglas3464 The joke was that everyone keeps saying that everyone overlooks Origins or that it gets no love, which is literally not true if everyone and their mother keeps mentioning how “underrated” it is. How did that fly over your head? Are you stupid?

[@terencehill5392]

He Is His Own Man He Can Speak For Anyone He Wants

[@cjdouglas3464]

@@terencehill5392 not how that works at all. But If you let others speak for you, to each their own 🤷‍♂️

[@DanGamingFan2406]

It's funny how Blackgate puts the most effort into it's Joker fight than any other Arkham game. Other than that though, both Blackgate and VR are just boring, and don't really add anything. VR especially had such wasted potential, I mean who wouldn't want to experience Arkham's free flow co.bat from a first person perspective?

[@jcw8719]

You would definitely throw up if they had first person free flow lol

[@joshuanelson6795]

It's really strange that The Joker is the main villain of the entire series, yet never delivered a proper boss battle between him and Batman. Asylum had the absolutely awful Titan Joker fight, City didn't feature a fight with him because he was terminally ill (which at least made sense for the story), Origins had an incredibly underwhelming quick-time event "fight" and Knight had that surreal psychological "fight" in Batman's mind. Funnily enough, the only time we got an actual combat-based boss battle against The Joker was in the Matter of Family DLC with Batgirl and Robin. In fairness, it was a solid boss battle and DLC, but I think everyone would have much preferred if it was with Batman himself.

[@CC_Editz1]

vr games are always short, their very difficult to make the time they would have to spend to make an even decent combat shstem would be absurd for such a short experience

[@Bigslasha]

That shit would suck imagine getting motion sickness everytime some thug bonks you in the back of the head every 4 seconds

[@weirdotzero7065]

It's still very weird that WB tried to make the Suicide Squad a thing for a while. 2 video games setting up an Arkham Suicide Squad, a direct-to-video movie about the Suicide Squad in the Arkham-verse, a standalone Suicide Squad film in the direct-to-video animated universe, the DCEU Suicide Squad film nobody liked, the better DCEU Suicide Squad film that was released during the pandemic, and a looter shooter video game that nobody has any confidence in and led to the founders of Rocksteady leaving the studio. Why, of all properties that DC owned, was that being pushed as a pillar in the DC brand for a decade?

[@JsReviews]

Yeah, it is weird. And I don’t know if this is a hot take or not, but I don’t really find the idea that interesting. When watching Assault on Arkham, my favorite parts where when Batman was on screen because I want to watch Batman. But the characters that are usually in the suicide squad tend to not be characters I find super interesting on their own.

[@DatPRGuy2017]

I think the problem is that DC thinks they can achieve the same success Guardians of the Galaxy achieved but the reason that worked was because the projects actually had effort and were great If you're gonna milk something at least have that product be good

[@omariwalker1006]

Blackgate was my only Batman Arkham experience for years. I was only allowed handheld games growing up, so I actually enjoyed it for what it was worth.

[@thatonegeeksite5251]

I didn’t mind Arkham VR since it was one of the first games I played in VR. Honestly blew my mind at the time standing on top of a building and looking down. Would love to see more done with a Batman VR game though since it was so short and has more potential.

[@normalgraham]

"VR is a gimmick that never grabbed me. It just seemed like something you"d play at a house party and that was it." I hear this all the time and it will never make sense to me. Games are about inhabiting a world. VR accomplishes that on a level you could never approximate with a monitor. It completely eliminates the passive aspect of gaming. You are no longer watching something happen to someone else, you are involved. If it was cheaper I think you'd see more people jumping onboard. When I had my Oculus developer's kit I found Dolphin VR and wound up playing all my old GameCube favorites like Wind Waker and Metroid Prime. The idea of going back to those games without VR just sounds boring now. The biggest problem with VR is the lack of confidence. I see so many titles that refuse to let players walk or turn because the developers are worried about motion sickness, which makes as much sense to me as taking the wheels off a car because you're worried about getting into an accident. That said, I was one of those weirdos that thought 3D movies were cool as fuck whereas everyone else just complained about having to wear glasses. I feel like some of our coolest technology will always be artifically hampered by the public's reluctance to do anything they haven't already done a thousand times. People clown on VR while they're perfectly satisfied paying for dumbass emotes in the latest looter-shooter clone. Pretty sure I was born on the wrong planet or at the wrong time or something

[@Spookster8178]

Rip Kevin Conroy. Batman shall never be the same without him. He made our childhood and continues to make more after death. 😢

[@StarWolf5298]

2:18 & Wii U too, arguably the best version since it retained the 3DS version's map screen on the Gamepad.

[@TheBman1023]

Arkham vr is one of the coolest experiences I’ve ever had

[@cartervandenberg4771]

It's a shame Blackgate wasn't any good. I really liked the train challenge map in Arkham City and I think the series could work as a 2d beat em up with some stealth mechanics.

[@KhaosKontroller]

Both hilarious and sad that Blackgate got a remaster but Origins didn't

[@squidwardstesticles5914]

It’s more of just a console port than a full remaster

[@AimingAtYou]

Arkham VR is not a game, it's an interactive experience. It's not trying to do what you want it to do. It's like saying that you don't like the stealth in Doom Eternal - Yeah, it's not trying to do stealth.

[@Yodagamer1]

I was actually hyped for the 3ds game. A 2d Metroidvania game from some of the developers of Metroid prime. I wished it would be good 😢

[@LucasHopkins2006]

I had tried to play Arkham VR and had a good time looking around the Batcave, but I remember hearing it’s basically a horror game and took one look at Nightwing’s death body, said “Nope” and might as well have acted like Lego Batman “No no no, no no no, no no no no nononono *beatboxes* NO!”, and chickened out because I do not do horror stuff well at all. Not really a great experience, but I guess that sums up half of my VR experiences with that, and Spider-Man Far From Home VR getting boring pretty quickly, I’ve still had something good before since Rec Room is pretty fun but that’s really only with friends for me, the only VR game I’ve played that I’ve legitimately loved is Iron Man VR

[@calvinmatthews1527]

Before today I didn't think there was such a thing as a "bad" Batman Arkham game. I've been living in blissful ignorance until J showed me this. That aside, I'm really looking forward to the Arkham Knight retrospective.

[@koleszgdanska7149]

Assault on Arkham was said to not be canon, and I hope the SS:KTJL is not gonna be aswell

[@Mattman_90]

I've been watching your channel for a while now and I have to say I really enjoy your video format, I like how you sound at ease doing this, there is a good balance of personal and professional in your reviews and retrospectives which I really enjoy. I was always curious about Arkham VR, I never expected great things from it but it's a little disappointing to see it be as short as it is. I want to thank you for the SkillShare opportunity. It's great that they work with channels to reach out and I have been fortunate enough to be amongst the first 1,000. I'm hoping that some of the lessons can help me with my creative prospects on KZbin since I lost my way quite a while back and haven't quite found my direction yet. I'm looking forward to the Arkham Knight video, thanks again.

[@nickhughes3684]

Blackgate came out when I was very young and I had been wanting to play the series but was too afraid(Arkham scarecrow was terrifying for a small child) so it was the first game I played. It will always be special to me because of it but yeah…. It might might not hold up as stellar as I remember

[@diegopansini3152]

Arkham VR was one of my favorite VR games

[@brayspank]

I actually played Arkham City Lockdown and the Origins mobile games back in the day, Lockdown I found fun as a little like 9 year old on an iPad because "hey! More of the thing I like!" but in retrospect it probably wasn't that great. I remember the origins game being very similar, just a little more padded out, but I didn't play it nearly as much. The combat in both was reminiscent of a very stripped down version of the injustice mobile game I also played - where combat consists of tapping and swiping, and wasn't really that interesting. Lockdown was pretty fun though and I have good memories of it, but I haven't been able to find a way to revisit it since.

[@DawnsRage]

Black gate looks like it had some real promise. A batman metroidvania sounds dope

[@youngdrill2073]

Your criticism of Arkham VR as a bad game isn't valid. You comparing a game that came out before vr was mainstream in 2016 to a title released after 5 years of advancements in the vr space. No to mention the fact that RE4 is a port of a game while Arkham vr was built from scratch.

[@MetropolisKid]

played and enjoyed all the arkham games. never played these side games or whatever they’re called. but thank you for playing it for us.

[@ryanhowe5753]

I played very little of black gate up until at some point I had no idea what to do or where to go, so I just dropped it entirely

[@OversoulGaming]

Arkham VR wasn't that bad. In fact, it serves as a really good introduction to VR if you're a Batman fan because it's not one that you're likely to get motion sick in due to being grounded in a body and standing stationary with teleport movement. Definitely a game you have to stand up to get the most out of though. Also it is surprisingly graphically impressive because the psvr had issues with blurriness but this game is mostly dark so it was able to hide a lot of the pixel shading. Plus I think it's a first party game

[@WHATISUTUBE]

This is the first Ive heard of an arkham followup by the same studio that takes place in the same unoverse (suicide squad). lmao thanks for the gaming news

[@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo]

Man I love Arkham origins and blackgate, never played VR though.

[@edwardnowakowski5990]

I will say, since you already have the psvr, RE:7 and skyrim are both incredibly fun to play in VR

[@jes141]

I thought I was the only one who didn’t like Arkham VR. Glad to finally see I’m not alone

[@Heillien]

I remember spending so much time with Batman: arkham underworld. I was so addicted to it though I can’t pinpoint exactly why. But I found the villains dialogue was funny, the change of perspective was interesting & there were some instances in the game where batman shows up and completely destroy your whole squad and you just don’t have a chance against him😂. Addition: IDK what happened but the game just shutdown you can’t play it with new software versions… at least that’s what I know 🙃

[@solidoptimus0129]

11:20, where did you get those frames of Jak 2 and MGS 2? They look cool!

[@szero7429]

Are you going to review Gotham Knights too?

[@saintzeroinfinity]

VR sounds like a scarecrow kinda game.

[@fetcherman13]

so ready for your knight video. it is my favorite video game of all time.

[@wellbeef]

I think Austin Eruption want's his title back.

[@MrNile00000]

Someone should have told bro that he could have bought arkham VR on the Occulus 😂

[@DannyBenS94]

I really tried getting into Origins Blackgate on Vita, like I tried my best, but just couldn't get into it. It took me some time to get into the Rocksteady games, but I was able to eventually. The Vita/3DS game, I just couldn't. Never played the VR game at this point.

[@Evixyn]

That is disappointing, I remember seeing black gate awhile ago and passed on it as it looked uninteresting. I had no idea there was a VR title but I am not surprised by that and what this video has informed me, nothing was lost.

[@SethDMC]

Getting the platinum in that one was hell😂

[@Thenesrookie]

I think you’re waaaay to harsh on Arkham VR. To call it shit seems a little hyperbolic to me.

[@darthharbinger1183]

I love both of these. I was at a point in my life where I was on the go a lot, and I had origins with me along the way. I get why people don't like it, but I love it because of this. Vr, I just found enjoyable, but get why people don't.

[@OversoulGaming]

In regards to Task Force X, The Suicide Squad game is unfortunately canonical to the Arkhamverse. I will be very interested in hearing your thoughts on that horrible piece of trash

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

Disappointed you didn't play the PS Vita and 3DS games to fully compare all of them. Oh well

[@markerikson7423]

Catwoman was not an easy fight, either the timing was off or I suck at the timing.

[@bananabike279]

A shame Blackgate wasn't that fun, I thought I heard pretty good things about it

[@joshyounger9520]

Not gonna lie, I actually kind of like Blackgate. I know there is not much there, but I had fun.

[@elijahhuffstutler7012]

Me too. I was only able to watch the main games online since we couldn't afford consoles for a while, so that was the first Arkham game I got to play myself. So definitely a bit biased, but I played that game multiple times over and loved it

[@AmariMarvelous]

I always thought Blackgate was not a bad batman game. Not terrible but not great either . I like the comic book cutscenes and the introduction of Catwoman. I never got the chance to finish it but I thought it was a ok experience.

[@randominternetweirdo5479]

I wear glasses, no VR for me. I think it sucks because I saw a walkthrough video that is just a bit longer than an hour with some twists that make no sense within the canon and anything, just a waste of time. And I played very little of Blackgate, it sucked early on, and it's not because of the side-scrolling part cause there is good Arkham Side-Scroll in Arkham City.

[@Harmony270]

I thought the VR game was fun though

[@taylord5381]

Thanks man.

[@hgmd3284]

Oh hey, now that you have a PSVR, I have 2 recommendations for you that are full ass games FNAFVR: help wanted + curse of dreadbear And Pistol Whip Both are excelent games

[@joeker5208]

That Movie kills off Two-Face and other characters prior to Asylum or City. So that ain’t canon. Looked pretty cool though

[@fat23671]

Hey, Batman Arkham vr was pretty cool ngl, ass but cool.

[@MakeItPerfectlyWrong]

You can use the Quest 2 on PC as a PC VR headset wired or wireless 😬

[@JsReviews]

I’m pretty sure it’s not compatible with Arkham VR without some workaround. Plus I’d have to buy that anyway, because I don’t own one

[@MakeItPerfectlyWrong]

@@JsReviews oh yeah I forgot you only borrowed the Quest

[@BrendaSantiago1530]

What about the wii u versions

[@alanlee67]

Thanks j. Now I don't have to play this. Too bad it couldn't be like the 2d castlevania lord of shadows game which was arguably superior to the 3d games.

[@bendyboy7179]

Oh God Blackgate i hate Blackgate 3/10. Im being generous.

[@TheVileOne]

Oh this should be interesting

[@cronoesify]

wtf. the PSVR version needs to be updated for the PSVR2. It was good wtf.

[@sk.mahdeemahbubsamy2857]

2 wtfs.... Bros hurt😂😂😂

[@MoonSarito]

It has a PCVR version ?

[@thomasffrench3639]

I feel like the only good mobile games are Arcady games or RPGs. Seriously the best version of Dragon Quest IV is on mobile.

[@hgmd3284]

You hated blackgate didn’t you

[@TheGamerRist22]

I actually really liked Arkham VR. It was fun but yeah it could have been much more. And I defiantly disagree with you saying VR is best just playing at a house party. 100% no thank you

[@cobraregala4571]

I hope there will be mods that fix tgem

[@NightCoffeeX]

Arkham Origins Blackgate is definitely not a bad Batman game(or Arkham game) if you keep your expectations low and play on a handheld like PS VITA, 3DS or Steam Deck. It does a really good job into filling some stuffs that Batman does post Origins.

[@squidwardstesticles5914]

Yeah, that’s pretty much what I just typed in my own comment. The console port really shows the flaws because people have much higher expectations for games they can’t just conveniently play anywhere. I played it on my vita and enjoyed it for the most part

[@mjc0961]

Sorry, but no. Playing on a handheld doesn't make a boring game any less boring. There are _GOOD_ 3DS and Vita games I could be playing instead of Arkham Origins Blackgate, it does _not_ get a pass for being handheld. You go ahead and play that trash. I'll play A Link Between Worlds, Super Mario 3D Land, Uncharted Golden Abysss, and Killzone Mercenaries. And Steam Deck? Do you know how many better games are available on Steam Deck? Why on Earth would I play Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate on Steam Deck when I could be playing Batman Arkham Asylum?!

[@NightCoffeeX]

@@mjc0961 That’s some sort of vendetta against it dude, take it easy. What the game did to you? Besides the gameplay, it has a nice story and a lot of call backs, references for the comic readers but I guess those won’t matter to you. I really was a fan of exploring Blackgate for the first time in a Batman game, even in 2.5D.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Spiderman 2018 >>> batman arkham games

[@tyleroutland435]

I respfully disagree I don't hate blackgate but I don't love it but I don't hate it. I actually liked blackgate more than Arkham knight. And knight should be in this list instead knight sucks and is the worst Arkham game

[@BigBossMan538]

Is Batman’s suit technically a fur suit?

[@Dctctx]

No

[@wesleybcrowen]

YES.

[@RJH755]

I got the 3DS version of Blackgate for christmas in 2013 and it was fucking asssss

[@BIGwillTHEGAME]

I’m Batman

[@joewillson]

Blackgate is not bad

[@dylanwolf1773]

Add "Batman: Arkham Origins" to that list of "Bad Batman Arkham games".

[@Gnidel]

It's a good game. Kinda level pack but worth playing.

[@dylanwolf1773]

@@Benji568 Overrated at this point honestly.

[@Benji568]

@dylanwolf1773 oh, jesus... 🙄🙄🙄

[@dylanwolf1773]

@@Gnidel It's not a bad game, just a bad "Arkham" game. It doesn't even really connect itself to the trilogy other than a few references made in Arkham Knight. Like what was the point? The characters, while intended to be younger versions of themselves, feel like they belong in a different universe entirely. It's just not Arkham. Just my opinion of course.

[@Dctctx]

@@dylanwolf1773well it is Arkham so your opinion doesn’t matter

[@derekmaullo2865]

Im sure Js reviews doesnt know that Mighty No.9, a megaman game, is the most infamous game of the megaman franchise. And I think Js reviews hates it, and this game is way more playable than Megaman X6 and X7