I played with dolls when I was a kid

Show: Stargate SG-1
Season: 1
Episode: 1 (double episode pilot)
Title: Children of the Gods
Original air date: 27/07/1997
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In this clip:
Richard Dean Anderson as Colonel Jack O'Neill
Don S. Davis as Major General George Hammond
Amanda Tapping as Captain Sam (Samantha) Carter
Jay Acovone as Major Charles Kawalsky
Brent Stait as Louis Ferretti

[@inoch07]

That third guy is awesome, it's like he is poking fun at both sides at the same time.

[@nulnoh219]

That guy is just awesome. Fan the flames on both sides, watch the world burn.

[@burnbobquist8999]

The third guy is Ferretti, who was part of the original movie and is leader of SG 2 in the series.

[@Latinofire202]

@@burnbobquist8999 is he?? I didn't know that. SG3 was more prominent in the series with Colonel Reynolds.

[@woodrobin]

I think the chuckle at "smarter than you are" was because he knew Col. O'Neill, and knew that, aside from tactical street-smarts, by O'Neill's own admission, that's not a high bar to set.

[@a3s1r1986]

Not just poking fun but he knew what the Major's Figure's accessories were. Maybe he had one too... or his sister maybe.

[@bryanwatson1917]

Notice how quickly the series abandoned the whole thing about coming out of the other side of the gate frozen?

[@connorgolden4]

I believe they explain somewhere in this episode or the next that it had to do with the connection between earth and abydos only barley working. Because space moves apart a lot of the “addresses” wouldn’t work. The earth abydos one worked but only barely, and that’s why they felt cold and disoriented. Afterwards they used some hand waving mumboy jumbo to fix those coordinates so they wouldn’t have to worry about either one.

[@killbot86]

Don’t forget in the original Stargate movie, Abydos was actually located in another galaxy but then this series changed it so that the entire gate network existed within only the Milky Way galaxy and that you needed a ZPM to dial a gate outside the Milky Way…..

[@TheMelbournelad]

Also they mentioned they made modifications to delete that and fact they got thrown out the other end.

[@Cowcow211]

@@connorgolden4 The cartouche on Abydos allowed for the SGC to calculate for Stella Drift that the DHDs automatically did. Since the SGC ddin't have a DHD they had to programme the computer at the SGC to do this calculations. It's why they explored a different gate every episode and had teams as the computer was calculating new addresses and the compensation for Stellar Drift during the whole time, until the Upload of new Gate Addresses during Jack's Ancient Library download.

[@faithwilliams5023]

If I remember right, the material they used to make the frosty look was actually toxic, so they stopped doing it and wrote in a technology that prevented it in the show.

[@alisilcox6036]

Interesting, I've never noticed that when kowalsky and the other officer are laughing and probably crossing the line of decorum, it's a glance from o'neill that shuts it down. I think hes telling the truth that he genuinely doesnt care shes a woman and does genuinely respect her as an officer, just not a scientist

[@rcslyman8929]

No, Jack just doesn't appreciate their chuckles at the "She's smarter than you are" because he knows going through their heads is, "Oh, yeah, that's a tough one."

[@alisilcox6036]

@@rcslyman8929 yeah true rewatching it that's a better read

[@davidlacoste]

@@rcslyman8929 And he's probably sending telpathic messages at them through his eyes like : "If she's smarter than me, sheway smarter than you".

[@davidlacoste]

In the case of O'Neill, that's probably true to large degree. Not very clear in the scene though.

[@Caldoric]

It's amazing how quickly his opinion of "scientist-types" turns around after hanging with Sam and Daniel for a bit. I mean, he still has to ask them to break things down "Barney-style" from time to time, but he at least is more willing to leth them cook.

[@Lawlietftw30]

This show goes on for enough seasons, they actually have Carter riff her own "reproductive organs" line in a later season.

[@SGtidbits]

Do you know which episode?

[@Lawlietftw30]

​@@SGtidbits I think I found it! According to WikiQuotes, it's in Season 8, Episode 19 (Moebius, Part 1): [In an alternate time line, Carter is practicing what she wants to say to her male boss.] Alt. Dr. Carter: Just because my reproductive organs are on the inside instead of the outside doesn't- God that's horrible! Who would ever say that?

[@ssjwes]

@@Lawlietftw30 That was a GREAT scene laughed so much.

[@ComradeRemus]

@@Lawlietftw30 They did it in Episode 200 too, during the Thunderbirds parody.

[@keithtorgersen9664]

@lawlieftw30, that line is made more relevant by the fact that Alternate Carter severely lacks original Carter’s confidence, so she’s trying to hype herself up with that line.

[@christosvoskresye]

This is more like the puppet version than I had remembered.

[@WilbertLek]

That's what I was thinking. 😉

[@jebdulles5809]

Dolls have tea and take naps. Action figures give their lives so that dolls can sleep peacefully and dream of puppy dogs, kittens and ponies. I lost a lot of action figures serving under my command for the freedom dolls love so much

[@kyle18934]

That brave action figure who drove on to the m80 to stop it from killing his comrads

[@malcolmreynolds5895]

​@@kyle18934 *8yrs later

[@kyle18934]

@@malcolmreynolds5895 ?

[@zibafu]

did your brave action figures fight the gorgonite scum ?

[@chrismatheis8115]

Which is why those that have survived to this very day are so valuable to us. Amen.

[@Tehownilator]

The ending is just so wonderful. Remember when there was nuance to human interactions?

[@fyrestorme]

Remember when you weren't sued into oblivion and had your life destroyed in mass media over a couple innocent jibes in the workplace because people weren't entitled snowflakes?

[@karbanatek99]

That´s exactly why I like older tv shows!

[@shadenox8164]

I mean if Carter said the stuff she said there in a show now people would be shouting "woke".

[@dy031101]

@@shadenox8164 I remember hearing that even the showrunner thought after the fact that the dialogue was a little bit on the nose, but then I doubt anyone cared anyway since the rest of the show isn't woke.

[@EzraYalanBenjamin]

@@shadenox8164 some would, but this dialogue is also a clever stab at the paranoid type of extreme "woke" that wants to see sexism behind every comment. A couple of (perfectly justifiable) jokes aside, their issue is more due to not wanting to babysit a scientist in a potentially dangerous combat situation- which would be justified if she wasn't also a soldier. They have Daniel to open the gate on the other side when they return anyway, and he's the only nerd they have learned not to underestimate. Where the scene made today, they'd possibly have Jack actually be sexist just to make a point. That's why people complain about "woke" dialogue- it's shoe horned in to make a point. You can't say that here, because it's better written scripts than the majority of crap these days.

[@AdmiralVortex]

KZbin comments at their best... O'Neill doesn't care she's a woman, he's not that kind of guy. Kowalski is. It's his comments that are the reason Carter felt the need to defend herself. Jack's issue is, partly like he says, with the fact she's a scientist more than a soldier. But his biggest problem is with how she ended up there. He has a problem with authority, and here comes Sam, and he now has to work with her cause the Pentagon said so, completely undermining his authority, and he's just supposed to take it. Nah, he don't fly like that (pun not intended)

[@XcaliberFrosty]

Ayyye somebody who understands Jack. Facts

[@R0gueM]

The man speaks the truth.

[@johnnydollar579]

As a guy who's not only going into the Army but has had a lot of friends who where I can tell you this just how military guy's talk to each other it's not that the two other guys are making fun of her because she's woman it's just that there just busting her chops which is pretty obvious with the whole doll exchange.

[@daviddewey2107]

Carter figured out how to adjust for the passage of time and the movement of various astronomical bodies. and some that eliminated the freezing and the vibration. They covered it in one of the episodes.

[@koalabrownie]

It's just some gobble-de-gook to save budget for the make-up department

[@Matthew-li7we]

Been watching a lot of SG-1 recently and it is crazy how many episodes you forget about, or the details you don't remember about the episodes you do remember. I think this is gonna be a new trend for me. Have a TV show I really like, wait 5 years, watch it like it is a brand new TV show, rinse and repeat.

[@SGtidbits]

I wish I could do that but I'm afraid that ship has long sailed for me.

[@MyFatty69]

i was going to buy digital copy on amazon prime, but i heard there has been a lot of small scenes taken out, and even the nude scene when apophis shows the new body to his queen. there has been reports of other bits missing too 😕

[@demontooth0428]

Seeing this made me realize Carter is a theoretical astrophysicist. I don't remember that part.

[@MrVpassenheim]

Thankfully, the rest of the entire series is nothing like this.

[@christopherg2347]

What? Of course Oniel has problems with scientists! McKay? Niirty? Jonas? That guy that made Urgo? The Ashen? Whoever build the Replicators? Whoever made the ancient superweapon of the week? You know, like Aging him, or timelooping him? The only thing he hates more are Snakes if they want into his body. He is okay if they stay outside or live in somebody else.

[@calebjanus2000]

Some bitch gets sent from the Pentagon and it feels to them like they are getting cat piss all over their cool aid. They settle in nicely.

[@ssjwes]

Amanda actually didn't like this type of stuff. The behind the scenes clips and her audio commentary she says as much. She said she wanted to be written just like any of the other characters were written. After the next episode was shot with her being kidnapped and all the "women/feminist" stuff related to it she said she had a talk with the producers and writers because she didn't like it. After that I can't remember another episode like this being made.

[@AngryToasterOven]

If they made this show today the rest of the entire series would be like this lol.

[@IBeforeAExceptAfterK]

And thankfully they edited this out in the director's cut. Shame it was kinda sloppy and makes Jack look kinda sexist.

[@Elthenar]

"which means she is smarter than you are" O'Neil with the Ancient Knowledge "Bonjour!"

[@ssjwes]

I always cracked up with her "reproductive organs" comment xD Glad they stopped writing the show with stuff like this though. Thanks Amanda, you knew what the fans really wanted.

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

There was only a "need" to do it once really, after which her actions spoke for her.

[@unevenelephant469]

@Professeur Râleur okay redpill.

[@Cx10110100]

It seems she was herself uncomfortable with forced stuff like this. You know...like a normal human being

[@isabelleblanchet3694]

Yeah, she said in interview she told the writers/producers a woman would not say things like that. The production team had no clue how to make a strong female character without clichés in the beginning.

[@aliciaborth3016]

I think it was really a measuring of d!cks there. Once she established some cred there was no reason to continue the female things.

[@derekenglish4905]

I wish they kept Kowalski's character alive

[@PR--un4ub]

His death had an impact...

[@allnamesaretakenful]

Jack: Who are you? Future Jack: I'm you, ten year into the future. Jack: No way, next thing you'll be telling me that I like scientists in the future. Future Jack: Well, my best friend is a scientist. Jack: ...

[@UGNAvalon]

“Two of them, in fact!”

[@VestedUTuber]

Future Jack: Don't worry, you've met them already.

[@pderham26]

What is this?

[@zippacna]

@@pderham26 nothing more or less than the truth

[@pderham26]

@@zippacna ...what?

[@ninjabearpress2574]

When I was a cub, my Maj. Matt Mason had that backpack.

[@seikibrian8641]

I had quite a collection of Major Matt Mason figures, vehicles, space craft, and even a moon base when I was a kid. My mother always referred to the action figures as "dolls" and it drove me crazy. "Mom! Dolls are for girls! These are 'toys'!"

[@douglashenry6996]

So did I! Unfortunately, because we were a Marine family, we had to move across the country a few times, so it all eventually got thrown out. If I still had them, they'd probably be worth a small fortune by now.

[@mbradleyc]

My dad wouldn't let me have a GI joe because he didn't want me playing with dolls.

[@KeatrithAmakiir]

That was a real thing? Random, I always assumed it was just made up for the show

[@seikibrian8641]

@KeatrithAmakiir Yeah, definitely a real thing. I had several of the spaceman figures, in different colors of space suits, and some were duplicates, so I'd pop off the heads and put them in different suits. I can't recall which came first: my sister's black Barbie or my black Matt Mason, but we were the first people I knew that had multi-racial toys in my very-white community of Johnsons, and Johanssons, and Millers, and...

[@vednar99]

Love at first sight.

[@brothersofliberty2437]

I love stargate sg1. The only series I have every season on dvd

[@mbradleyc]

They fell in love right then.

[@Airrage88]

With how great Carter is later on, I completely forgot how bad her character was in the beginning.

[@isabelleblanchet3694]

Amanda Tapping set them on the right track after the first episodes, she said she told the people in charge that a women would not act/speak like that.

[@chevon1920]

“...and just because my reproductive organs are on the inside..” “god who would ever say that” Lol 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@gammafoxlore2981]

Nerds with stilted speach. (Plenty of people)

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

Ahhh, yes. I distinctly remember that line 200 episodes later.

[@PR--un4ub]

"Did it have the kung-fu grip?"

[@SlicerJen]

GI Joe. My favorite was Snake Eyes.

[@MadsTrier]

oh how i both long for and fear for a new startgate show.

[@JBatJJ]

Lol they cut the whole reproduction organs thing in the amazon prime streaming version. Also the ONE nude scene...

[@mbradleyc]

Magnificent rack!

[@SpencerLemay]

Showtime demanded the nude scene originally, the creators never wanted it. The reproductive organs line was cringe though.

[@CaptainAwsome]

im pretty sure thats because its technically the directors cut version

[@managarn8038]

@@SpencerLemay yeah everytime i rewatch, im always amazed that there was a full frontal nudity scene in SG1.

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

But you need that line for the 200th episode!

[@mithicash1444]

I think this was just the right amount of feminism. Keep in mind, this show started in 1994 when females were still widely discriminated against in the military. The whole point was to establish Carters character and the fact that she had to fight to be in her position.

[@dylanwight5764]

@john maziasz The film was 1994

[@BattlestarPegasus]

It's "the right amount of feminism" because after this scene she goes on to prove herself with brains and combat prowess without being done in a silly way (she doesn't knife fight or kick a Jaffa halfway across a room), while also being a good solider who respects her superiors, their decisions, and the chain of command. She also shows good leadership when she's in charge, the right amount of toughness, in charge attitude, and respect and care for those under your command. She isn't demanding to be entitled to a seat at the table, she earns it, regardless of the specific placement of her organs :p

[@meleardil]

@@BattlestarPegasus "She isn't demanding to be entitled to a seat at the table, she earns it, regardless of the specific placement of her organs :" ...and as such, it is not feminism at all. Feminism was NEVER about equality. Not even in the early days of it. In the beginning they wanted to abolish the negative aspects of discrimination without touching the positive side. My opinion: either play the woman role with all the limitations and privileges, or demand equality, but in that case take it as a whole. In THIS scene Carter wants to be treated as equal... period. No exceptions, no special rules, no cherry-picking. As a result, SHE EARNED all the respect from them. ZERO FEMINISM during the action.

[@FFKonoko]

@Scottish In a modern military of people driving tanks and controlling drones you want to focus the requirements to how fast someone can carry a backpack? And no, to interrupt the safe space jerk off, feminism was pretty obviously rooted in equality, especially in this context where women were kept out and had to fight for equality. That's why they fought to be allowed to enlist in the first place, to be allowed to be considered capable of serving as well. I'm sure there's plenty here ready to talk about extreme militants they've heard about online, while ignoring that one of the other comments here is an excellent show of why said women needed to fight extra hard to be acknowledged, but as far as the above clip is concerned, very feminist, just as Rosie riveter and suffragettes were. Don't redefine a huge and nuanced equality movement based on extremists over correcting. Or do you guys think that feminists talking about how "women can be anything, even domestic abusers, take male victims of abuse seriously" are also signs of "gender over qualification".

[@AdhocHoopla]

@@FFKonoko your first statement betrays a complete ignorance of what the military does. It is such a cringe worthy statement. I'm honestly embarrassed for you. How can you even type something so stupid and ignorant without feeling a sense of personal shame?

[@jawstrock2215]

And they went on to live a long fruitful and ENTIRELY platonic relationship. What a beautiful love.

[@tompearce5418]

Later in Stargate Atlantis Colonel Caldwell acknowledges that Carter is personally responsible for Stargate Command and it's affiliated agencies making tremendous leaps in technological advancement, to the point where they have functioning starships capable of travelling between galaxies.

[@davidf6498]

I'm really glad they quickly decided to just let Carter be awesome rather than having to overtly draw attention to "hey women can be badass too!" See also; why Harley Quinn was a great film and Captain Marvel was not so much.

[@ultramegaman555]

harley quinn was good? dude, every single villain and henchmen was made so absurdely weak, it made the "protagonist" look pathetic/false/unbelivable, a hero/heroine/antihero/antiheroine is measured by the obstacles they have to overcome which is mostly provided by their nemesis and that movie, just like batwoman the series is a shitshow

[@isabelleblanchet3694]

Amanda Tapping is responsible for Sam just being awesome. She's the one who went to the producers/writers and told them a women would not act/speak like that. Thanks Amanda!

[@shadenox8164]

@@ultramegaman555 Yes it was good, it was a pretty good story with solid fight scenes and decent humor. Its a superhero movie, not Citizen Kane. It did exactly what it was supposed to do and it did it well. It really feels like that movie gets way more criticism than other superhero movies that don't hit all those marks.

[@martinmanifold2241]

And the rest is history

[@Vaioplayer88]

I hated what they did with Kawalsky. I liked the O'Neill and Kawalsky duo.

[@CT--ex5sx]

Don’t forget about Ferretti

[@florinivan6907]

General Hammond:Which means she is smarter than you. MacGyver: I can jerry rig a nuclear reactor out of tin foil some chewed gum and sticks. So its doubtful. General Hammond: Can't argue with the facts. Sorry captain you'll stay. Sam Carter:😭

[@shadenox8164]

Carter: What you need gum? *scoffs*

[@gino14]

I'm just floored that it took the same time for Carter to make it from Captain to Colonel that it took Oneill to make it from Colonel to Major General

[@strangerous1313]

Stargate travel has a different effect on people. In this case, promotion is sped up.

[@TheMelbournelad]

I wonder if Benedict stole that “ theoretical astrophysicist” clap back vibe for when he corrects with “DOCTOR Steven Strange” lol

[@kineticdeath]

bummer it stops before she goes into her combat records! this just shows the character building we get in sg-1, for all its cheesy sci fi ness there actually is character growth over time

[@USAIRFORCE621]

"By the time you get to the other side you're frozen stiff, like you just been through a blizzard, naked!" LMAO!

[@wakkywabbit5446]

Thanks

[@SGtidbits]

You're welcome

[@dcbradfo657]

This scene is clumsy, but I love the reference to Major Matt Mason. I had both him and GI Joe. Alien villain Kalisto's air powered string gun was cooler than the backpack.

[@Rocketsong]

The saluting indoors drives me nuts.

[@fundiambb]

the moment i got a crush on her lmao

[@unusualbydefault]

thre reason why I didnt find this cringey is because she actually is tough and doesn't take shit, not JUST because she's female. I dont care if you're male or female, if you're the best for the job, you get it. we should never lower bars for "inclusivity" if peak performance is required, but if you meet the requirements and do your part, gender shouldn't matter either. if that means only 250 pound females called "olga" are eligible for being a firefighter (for example) so be it

[@michaeldriggers7681]

Wow this scene has not aged well

[@Dubanx]

I assure you, people made fun of it when it aired too. It was never a good look. This scene and the whole sexism episode where she was kidnapped by nomadic tribals are probably the most hated parts of the entire series. Thank god they fixed the issues with the series early on.

[@philvidinis9085]

Did not like how they portrayed Kawalsky in this scene...it goes against the character that he actually was. He was noble and as shown in all his later scenes anything but sexist.

[@clarascats1365]

I think kawalsky in this scene was closer to kawalsky in the movie, but later on in the show they made his character a bit nicer

[@robwalsh9843]

She's so lovely

[@superiorsandwich4331]

as a kid, I'm like wow what a strong girl, as an adult I'm like why is a captain bullying a colonel?

[@gregjenkinson7512]

Probably because they were openly dismissive of her as soon as she walked in

[@jawstrock2215]

@@gregjenkinson7512 Yeah, could feel she had to go through a lot of misogynistic BS over her career at that point, and she had probably never really fitted in until the SGC. My headcannon.

[@madapakakapadam]

Kawalsky was Lt. Colonel in the original Stargate. Here, he is Major. Anyone know why?

[@jasonscottjenkins]

It's an altered reality from the original movie?

[@sarahswailes4690]

Right then I knew I loved Carter! What better role model to look up to when I was growing up?

[@makara4615]

Nobody, not this scene, not this comment, has ever mentioned feminism. Only you. This scene most likely was created to show that, in a male-dominated job (military, SpecOps), she isn't just a pretty face with smarts, but she can handle herself. The character of Sam Carter, while at times maybe a bit too perfect, was a good one. Much better compared to what we see in today's SciFi sadly. She had her flaws (difficulties having both a private life and a professional career for example), and her strengths can be explained by her being an elite soldier and scientist, plus that this was SciFi and they needed someone to come up with the solutions. Not to mention that she was part of a team, all of which had their jobs, their field where they shined.

[@blusafe1]

Evi1M4chine That's a big chip.

[@orkz7258]

Evi1M4chine Please be like I want you to be. I want you to be like this. Else you are bad. One of the most cringeworthy posts i've seen, and i'm saying that after watching an awkward scene where none of the characters looked real just surface caricatures. As if a women can't raise kids after being a soldier, or be a soldier after raising kids, what a lot of BS and bellyaching about an already meh scene.

[@st0ox]

Jean Luc Picard

[@sanhcman666]

Agree. She is way better than current feminism. Instead of complaining, and ask more rights, straigth prove why the sexist men are wrong.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

The thing is that there are differences between a strong character and a strong female character. All you have to do is reflect that, but you can't do it if you constantly use being a woman as a reason to be strong. They are strong because the challenges ahead require it. I found this part funny but I do agree it was kinda cringy. I did like how Jack was opposed to her because she was a scientist because of their nature.

[@pwnmeisterage]

If you have to keep saying it ... then you've failed to demonstrate that it doesn't even need to be said. And if you keep saying it when you don't have to ... then you're completely wrong or you're simply being obnoxious.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

_"It's not the placement of your reproductive parts that matters ... Miss ... it's your upper body strength. If you get wounded - I can carry you to safety. If I get wounded - can you carry me?"_ .

[@ponderoustomes9005]

Those salutes are so fucked up

[@andyl8055]

They managed to address the issue without the men getting lobotomies and lining up for colonoscopies. Good stuff.

[@ralphpal]

its funny when she meets Daniel jackson she wanted to be called a scientist instead of captain

[@LabradorIndependent]

​@@ralphpal I think that's deliberate. Talking to O'Neill and the other guys in the room it was important for her to be respected as an Air Force officer, especially given O'Neill's general disregard for scientists. However, when she introduces herself to Daniel, she says "Doctor Jackson I presume? I'm Doctor Samantha Carter" - it's important for her at this point to introduce herself as a fellow Doctor. In a sense, she's just adapting herself to her audience. It also allows O'Neill to quip "I thought you wanted to be called Captain?" so yeah, it is in many ways just funny. Though I do think it serves her character, and lets us know as an audience she stands by her background as both an Officer and a scientist - or indeed 'Theoretical Astrophysicist.' All in all it's great characterisation.

[@kauske]

@@ralphpal That's Doctor Captain Carter ,thank you very much!

[@corberus3119]

@@ralphpal because Daniel is a civilian, and also a doctor. It's her way of trying to make a connection with him on an intellectual basis and break down the military/civilian barrier.

[@shadenox8164]

@@ralphpal It's not that hard to understand, Jack is her colleague through their military service, Daniel is her colleague through academics.

[@wakkywabbit5446]

Sam 😁

[@Dilo_Jaan_Se]

Captain Carter I love you 😍 always

[@victorselve8349]

actuality what happened to the side effects of traveling through the gate later throughout the series? Did they ever give any explanation why this does not happen anymore?

[@rainiervandenberg]

Wasn't it that the dialling computer initially wasn't calibrated well enough to compensate for interstellar drift?

[@victorselve8349]

I meant the freezing effect when you come out if I remember correctly that, at the beginning, also happened when they went from not earth Stargate to not earth Stargate

[@sarahswailes4690]

Maybe because they went through it so much, they got used to it so it didn't affect them anymore....kind of like a tolerance

[@StmaclGaming]

If I remember, with the initial addresses they had they weren't actually connecting to the other gates properly and would pretty much hit the closest one, which meant that it gave some side effects. This was mostly attributed to things like interstellar drifts with all the planets slowly moving away from where their gate address was. They calculated and adjusted for that change which fixed the issues of any side effects.

[@Cowcow211]

Victor Selve Their calculations for Stellar Drift were not properly completed in the first few episodes. There is a throw away line in a later season were carter observes a similar effect that was negated by their calculations being completed.

[@keithtorgersen9664]

I can’t remember, whatever happened to Feretti?

[@cajintexas7751]

I had a Major Matt doll--er, action figure--when I was a kid. Much better than GI Joe.

[@Rensune]

That one major is a man of culture

[@Domihork]

Why is she so proud that she was working on it for two years? Being her I'd be ashamed that I had worked on something for 2 years and then someone else who wasn't even from the same field made it work in no time...

[@TheManUnitedFTW]

not really. I am not an expert on the series, but Carter probably tried to start it by using phsysics, while archeology was needed for the solution

[@Domihork]

@@TheManUnitedFTW but... archeology wasn't needed... it was the star constellations that were needed which is much closer to astrophysics than archeology

[@TheManUnitedFTW]

@@Domihork I am not sure about the series, but in the original film, it was the point of origin which was missing, not the star constellation.

[@Domihork]

+TheManUnitedFTW yes but Daniel's reasoning for the point of origin was "all of the symbols look like constellations except for this one, this looks different, therefore this must be it"

[@TheManUnitedFTW]

@@Domihork yeah but all the other scientists couldn't figure that one out

[@unregierbar7694]

Sad that Major Kowalsky died so early.

[@dercooney]

heh, sam before she blew up two stars

[@845835]

And how did they get rid of the freezing part? Was it eventually dropped for convenience?

[@shadenox8164]

Carter did some corrections.

[@845835]

@@shadenox8164 I'm aware that they wrote it out by making it a technical issue that gets resolved by adjusting for planetary drift that has occured while the Stargate was buried but it was purely done because having it be a part of every jump is not practical for a weekly series. When Emmerich and Devlin made the film they did it because it made the initial jump look better rather than have them simply stroll out the other end like they walked through a doorway in a house.

[@utizzle44]

POG

[@ysgramornorris2452]

A wacky line to be sure. You know which one I mean. If it had been written today, Stargate would have been cancelled into oblivion despite all the positive messages this show had to offer. Because Stargate isn't about aliens who play god, pseudoscientific gibberish and an anular interstellar teleportation device. It's about growth, learning and improvement.

[@shootybaking]

Such a strong character.. Letting people know she was worth to be on the table.

[@kenp7814]

Wrong Pro-Noun ...... ... He's in trouble now

[@RebeccaCampbell1969]

But then he can do a Black Face and accuse the country of being racist, claiming innocence of course… AND ALL WILL BE FINE! Does being the illegitimate son of Fidel Castro needed, if so O'Neill (2 L's) is really in trouble 😂

[@corberus3119]

Doctor isn't a pronoun it's a title, or as Sam calls it a salutation

[@kenp7814]

@@corberus3119 "Where's he transferring from" - "SHE"S transferring from the Pentagon" Pronouns

[@ogichi32]

Man everyone except the general was trying so hard to win this pissing contest against Captain Carter.

[@shadenox8164]

Hammond knows better than to fight battles he can't win. He knows why Carter is there.

[@gabortoth3644]

The character Sam Carter (and the actress Amanda Tapping) is a living proof of the existing strong, independent yet feminin women in movies what the nowadays SJW simply unable to show to us, no matter how hard they try. No one ever had any issue about her brilliance, battle readiness and combat experience...It is way within the believable limits and not overdid like for example Rey "Mary Sue" Palpatine....

[@Contevent]

Then you haven't watched TV or cinéma lately. It's because of shows like Stargate that nowadays you can find women in roles that aren't tailored for women. Because, maybe you weren't born yet, but the enormous amount of female rôle in movies and TV séries were romantic/bound to a man ones. A LOT of progress has been made, and you are ripping the benefits of "SJWs" as you contemptuously call them.

[@gabortoth3644]

@@Contevent Sorry, are you high? Or what the hell are you talking about? Alien...1979, Terminator...1984, Cagney and Lacey...1982, Thelma and Louise..1991..few examples (IMDB have a nice and looooong list...) Nowadays SJW not fighting for women`s right..they fighting for special rights for them and double standards ("we want to be treated like any man!" vs "sexuality related jokes? Sexual harassment!" So which one then? Want to be treated same or special instead? I smell double standards...

[@Contevent]

@@gabortoth3644 The movies you speak of are remembered, do you have any Idea how many shitty ones were made and weren't good enough to last in the memories? This is the "the music was better before" paradox. Music wasn't better, all the forgettable songs have just been forgotten. Movies weren't better or more inclusive. Inclusive movies that survived to this day are either really good on their own or memes. Let me tell you, there was sexism everywhere.

[@gabortoth3644]

@@Contevent Point is THEY HAD THE CHANCE....no one gave a flying fck about the lead or major characters`s race, sex or anything as long the movie itself was fun and entertaining.....repeat ENTERTAINING...

[@Contevent]

@@gabortoth3644 Yes plenty of people did filter the actors. Some roles were even specifically tailored for women, for black men, for asian people, etc... Seriously did you even took a look at the policies back then? Just take a look at Kung Fu, one of the most inclusive series, very true to buddhist béliefs, Chinese and Japanese culture, and the state of immigrants during the conquest of the West. The main lead, who is supposed to be Chinese, is a White Guy. Because the studio pressured the makers. Even recently, the cartoon "The Legend of Korra" was almost never born because Nickelodeon was convinced boys would not identify to a woman protagonist. No, they were not given the chance. A few were, and of those few films the few that outlasted the decades were exceptionnal. But in no way were they a rule.

[@kauske]

And people picked on Universe for a 'rough start' and O'neill being shitty to scientist types. I guess they just forgot how shakey of a start SG-1 had, never mind the rather mediocre at best movie. I'll bet of Universe ran its course, it would be remembered just as fonldy as Sg-1 for its good parts.

[@managarn8038]

a shame, because the show really had started picking up steam by the second season.

[@kauske]

@@managarn8038 IDK how Atlantis did so well, but SGU fell flat. I hated Atlantis with a passion, if people can watch that, you'd think they can watch anything. But I guess actually trying to introduce people to new characters instead of just getting to the plot payoff upset people too much. There's a reason why blank slate protagonists are so common... People latch onto them more than developed ones. I loved Rush, he was such an interesting villain compared to what we got before. At least the actor went on do play virtually the same role in something else, because he makes such a great villain / protagonist always working towards his own goals and manipulating everyone else along.

[@shadenox8164]

@@kauske Uh... I didn't forget how rough the first season of SG-1 was, the problem with Universe's first season was it was dull, filled with pointless relationship drama born out of a teen melodrama. No one cares who was sleeping with who, that's not why people tuned into Stargate. Even here during this "cringe" scene here we're learning interesting details Universe couldn't manage even that much while wasting people's time. And no the melodrama didn't help introduce us to the characters. speaking of Rush that's an excellent example of the shit writing in season one of Universe, like we get it Rush is a dick and his selfishness landed you in this mess. But they would constantly ignore their best expert and he was pretty much always right every time yet every episode they'd reset to not listening to him. Then one of the dipshits tried to leave him for dead, brilliant writing! Oh no wait, that was bad writing for drama. You rag on Atlantis but at least even people who didn't like Rodney because he could be insufferable weren't dumb enough to not listen to him or try to kill him for the dramas. It sucks too because Universe had an interesting premise and some solid character concepts, if the writers could have learned what dark and mature means instead of writing like a teenager trying to prove how grown up they are it could have been great.

[@kauske]

@@shadenox8164 Atlantis was unwatchable trash, SGU was plenty interesting; fite me. :V also, it's pretty sad to go to literally all my 2+ year old comments on clips of a dead franchise to go 'uhm akshually', like anyone gives a toss about your opinion.

[@Tracer_Krieg]

Amazing how well Sam improved as a character by the end of the first season, though many of her first few episodes (especially the Mongol one) were very cringe-worthy with their shoehorned in feminist bulletpoints. Then again, this was around the same time as GI Jane, so that might explain it. Still, it was thankfully dropped by the end of the season and she became a fan favorite.

[@And-ur6ol]

I think i heard somewhere from the creators, that they felt like they had to adress it, but after adressing it, they didn't feel like having to point it out over and over. Sam had challlenges to overcome as a woman surounded by men, and after having told that, they moved on. And thank god for that. I don't think this scene is cringe, but if her character had continued this mentality, it would have ruined the show.

[@ssjwes]

@@And-ur6ol Amanda herself didn't like it and talked to the writers and producers about it after the mongol episode was shot. She talks about it a little bit in the behind the scenes clips and audio commentary on the DVD collection set.

[@And-ur6ol]

@@ssjwes Praise Amanda. The mongol episode is also a "watch once" episode.

[@Vicious_Retard]

How after nearly 100 years of tv have they not learned no one salutes without headdress? doesn't every military advisor tell them that?

[@Dubanx]

It was only the first season that they had issues with stuff like this. Later seasons had actual air force advisers and was spot on for the little details like how people address each other and salutes.

[@saquist]

After all these years....it's still cringy.

[@amandacorbett4785]

saquist it was supposed to be

[@Ben-ht2cv]

@@amandacorbett4785 No it really wasn't, and actually wasn't considered cringy at the time

[@StarlasAiko]

Wasn't clingy then, isn't clingy now.

[@efirizaki5656]

They both had good reasons Carter was an ejucatet sientist who had to face ash0ls and endtitle career military brash And Oneele.....whell you nkow his story.

[@niyablake]

@@RebeccaCampbell1969 Are you really saying women are on average not as smart as men ?

[@Neo2266.]

While rewatching the show now I was surprised how dumb Carter and Daniel sometimes act in the first season. Refusing to comply direct orders either because Carter sees something wrong with the culture they just invaded, or because Daniel wants to get to know the culture and would sometimes compromise himself for it. I could see why Daniel would do that, if he wasn’t constantly supposed to search for his wife, at which point he wouldn’t care about other cultures. And Carter feels like a completely different character at the beginning of SG1

[@shadenox8164]

He wants to find his wife, but that doesn't magically make him not interested in cultures.

[@Camman010]

This was back when TV was good. I just finished watching E-1 and am about to start on e-2. All free just do a search.

[@a.w.3438]

if james spader was here i'd have watched it

[@Latinofire202]

Michael Shanks surpasses Spader

[@GooglyEyedJoe]

Even Amanda Tapping said she didn't like how much they shoved feminism into this.

[@Bleg94]

understandable, it also was kinda forced, her name is not Sam but Samantha the "Sam Carter" was basically saying "it is a guy"

[@angelvivero7325]

Jack: Oh here we go. Another scientist. General please. Sam: Theoretical astrophysicist. Jack: Which means? Which means SCIENTIST!!!!

[@amandahugankiss4110]

made funnier by her taking her top off the first chance she could after the show ended.

[@insomnia20422]

reminds me of donald trump: "I like women, i just have a little problem with scientists." xD

[@HarPlayer]

There JUST AIR FORCE😂😂😂😢😢😢😕😕😕😕!!!!!! THAT'S all.

[@seikibrian8641]

* *They're.*

[@Latinofire202]

The best branch of the military

[@Cx10110100]

chair force

[@nexahs1]

There's so much insubordination in this, so cringy

[@Ruosteinenknight]

Interestingly enough, general Michael E. Ryan who was USAF joint chief of staff at the time (and who guest starred as himself in episode "Prodigy") said that O'neill is pretty realistically written. He went on the record saying to Richard Dean Andersson that yes, they have Colonel's who are like O'neill and some who are actually even worse.

[@swishfish8858]

@@Ruosteinenknight That doesn't surprise me. Just like in a corporate environment; they want the lower ranks to conform and see a romantic view of the higher-ups, but they're all just human themselves up there.

[@RyanNerdyGamer]

2:16 _And it was at this moment that Ol’ Johnny knew he’d met his match. How could one person remind him not only of himself, but of that mythology-obsessed, poindexterous, figuratively quadrilateral King of the Nerds he left behind on the Ra forsaken desert planet he was about to revisi-_ _Oh no, oh funk, oh Ra, oh ship, oh Ra, _*_oh_* *funking* *_Ra…_*_ those two are_ absolutely _gonna hit it off… gotta reassert my implied - albeit slightly overdressed - bravado in an attempt to hide my insecurities over the fact that she is_ way _smarter and prettier than I could ever hope to be!_ _Okay, just…. be natural. Act yourself. Wait… other way ‘round. And above all, be smooth._ *Honest!* _Be… b-be honest… okay, here we go…_ “I don’t have a problem with women. I _like_ women. I just have a little problem with _scientists.”_ _Nice… now stop staring. No, wait! Stare, but try to do it non-chalantly… I swear, if I wasn’t her superior on this mission I’d totally… n-never mind. As you were… uh… dismissed._

[@MtDuckford]

If this episode aired in 2021, it would be pulled off the air before it finished. To be fair i'm not a fan of this type of treatment of anyone.

[@martythemartian99]

I remember seeing this on its first run, and thinking the whole "It's a girl" bit was so cringe. More like a show from the 70's than one from 1997. I kind of wish there was a Special Edition without it. They cut out the nudity, so why not the other sexism?

[@SGtidbits]

I've always found this scene cringe as well. Never had an issue with the nudity, although it was surprising to see that in the show. (and then never again) As far as I'm concerned they could have cut this scene too, or at least edited it. Good call.

[@dmc8706]

I don't think that military people of note would dismis a new colleague like this.

[@shadenox8164]

You might wanna hear some of the stories of women soldiers then.

[@Neo2266.]

Holy shit the "final cut" changes so much for the worse. This scene is completely butchered. But even a scene like "I can save these people, Help me!" is shortened and the score changes, wtf

[@SpencerLemay]

This scene was great until the last line...

[@TheMAZZTer]

Most of these scene is pretty cringe. No surprise the writers parodied it twice during the rest of the series run. O'Neill's interactions also seem off brand but I guess he had some growing to do. I suppose he's treating her no worse than he did Mayborne later. And I would even forgive the "Doctor" usage, since it leads into a good moment later where Sam accidentally introduces herself as Doctor to Daniel. Her crush on him was another thing the writers were smart to throw away early on (and they also parodied it in one of the same episodes they paroried the other bit).

[@katynewt]

If anyone watching this for the first time are new to stargate and think this is another woke series, don't worry, it's not.

[@SoranoGuardias]

Just a woman's first day in the new boy's club she's assigned to. She'll be alright. XD

[@Latinofire202]

It is ahead of it's time if you think about it. Carter definitely is what they're trying to appeal to now, except it's not forced. It's more natural.

[@hrhagadorn]

@@Latinofire202 it's natural because after this scene she was allowed to prove herself valuable. This show went out of its way to show that the people in the roles they were in because they earned it and we're the best of the best. Which makes sense if you take their mission in to account. These had to be elite people. Which is why I love the out of your ass moments through the three series. It makes sense.

[@shadenox8164]

@@hrhagadorn Nah, if it came out today the idiots would be shouting woke. It gets a pass because its grandfathered in by coming out before the little boys were conditioned to be outraged by black mermaids.

[@snakedoctor6969]

Just wait until they find the Mongols

[@ThangTran-jv7mm]

man her salute is so bad and without cover so unwarranted

[@develynseether4426]

Wrong in 2 fronts. First off correct me if I'm wrong but all armed forces in the US remove cover when indoors unless armed, does that mean no-one indoors ever salutes? No. Secondly I'm not sure about others but I know in the USAF when reporting to a superior officer a salute is warranted (even expected) along with stating rank and name. They constantly had Air Force personnel on site to ensure things were done correctly, if you aren't aware RDA himself was made an honorary Brigadier General for his contributions and the show was constantly praised for its accurate portrayal.

[@Latinofire202]

@@develynseether4426 yup, they had an Air Force General that advised them.

[@Utubesuperstar]

Yeah she should have reported to the general not him also they had an enlisted uniform with I believe major officer ranks along with the sgt chevrons on the sleeve episode 1 was rough

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@develynseether4426 Nah, I was in the Air Force 26 years, with a lot of briefings in the presence of general officers under my belt, nobody not under arms salutes indoors except under two specific situations (this case was neither one), and nobody reports officially to a colonel in a general's briefing with a general sitting at the table. That formal report would be done later in the colonel's office. There was also 'way too much sniping going on in that briefing as well. Might get away with that in the occasion that everyone is in flight suits, but not at that kind of briefing. Fortunately, SG-1 got a lot better and tighter about those things as time went on.

[@develynseether4426]

@@kirkdarling4120 I respect and honour your service to your country.

[@marianpazdzioch6632]

Maybe also worth mentioning that if you want to visit somewhat backwater culture in terms of men-women equality without causing an alarm or trouble you may want to put away your female pride and let men do the mission ?

[@JamesBond-xx1lv]

Maybe you should just see people as people and not constantly think about what's between their legs on a mission? And you know, trusting that your government chose the right person for the job, instead of being an insubordinate, whiny prick?

[@shadenox8164]

and what if its a culture where women are the ones in charge dingus? You don't know.

[@FredyArg]

everything about this scene is wrong, first Air Force corporate members or Airmen don't salute, they are civilians...lol second, saluting a COL when there is a General already present, damn who thought of that... third, how the fuck did i get here?

[@Dubanx]

For what it's worth, later seasons had air force advisers and didn't make these sorts of mistakes.

[@Ragitsu]

Warning: many of the idiotic comments below are imposing a 2020 frame of mind onto a show from 1997.

[@Dubanx]

I assure you, people made fun of that scene in the 90s too. It was really dumb. This and the Mongol episodes are considered the worst episodes of the series for a reason.

[@Ragitsu]

@@Dubanx Not compared to the 90s, no. What people fail to realize is the historical context; this kind of "in your face" feminist pushback was more of a necessity back in the day. We see it as heavy-handed now, but it helped to pave the way for more subtle messaging/activism.

[@LordTalax]

Carter was such a women's lib pain in the ass when she started and seems very green. I don't remember why they dropped the freezing during gate travel and the disorientation

[@SGtidbits]

The freezing was due to misalignment of the gate due to stellar drift. That's because they used their own systems to dial the gate instead of a DHD which would have automatically compensated. At a certain point they figured it out and adjusted their systems in order to compensate.

[@metalzonemt-2]

Was that explained on some episode?

[@westrim]

@@metalzonemt-2 This one, about 5 minutes after this scene.

[@shadenox8164]

Wow, she tells one guy to stop being an ass and you can't handle it.

[@ilovethatkatielovesclassic8771]

agh cringey.

[@mr.holmes233]

He must be a trump supporter #damnscientusts

[@abeasterdgames3387]

You will address me by my rank tf girl he is your superior officer he can address you by your name if he felt like it

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

“You don’t have to worry, I played with dolls as a kid.” OK, trying to translate from 1997 to today… Is she saying she’s not gay? Or maybe that she’s not trans? I was a kid at the time, so any kind of reference like that would have flown right over my head.

[@Cx10110100]

I take it as "not a tomboy" comment

[@shadenox8164]

Maybe saying she isn't gay, probably just saying she wasn't a tomboy. Even for the day I'm not really sure what the writers were going for there.

[@koalabrownie]

Some of the dialogue here is pretty bad, Samantha's most of all.

[@MarkConway73]

So thankful they fixed her character. This is insufferable.