Stargate SG-1 P90 demonstration

Carter and O'Neill compare a staff weapon with the P90.
Stargate SG-1: S05E18. The Warrior.

[@thechilledonion9313]

Can't wait the episode where Goa'ulds find out the price of the 5.7 ammo.

[@Jerdan_]

For a noob like me, what's the price for it?

[@jameslee3944]

@@Jerdan_ the price right now is $2-$3 per round right now. $1.90 if you’re lucky

[@fu1644]

Holy crap. Thats an expensive kill. No wonder china sends the bill for the bullets to the victims family

[@jakobc.2558]

@@stejkoman what? No, the P90 wad never a 9mm. What are you talking about? The hole reason why the P90 was designed and build in the first place was because the old 9mm SMGs could not penentrate Kevlar body armour and NATO wanted a replacement.

[@MyNameIsOcean]

@@jameslee3944 I misheard something about there being more manufacturers of 5.7, wouldn’t that bring prices down (for lower quality boolets)

[@markvincentcocjin]

"We would like to ask you why these gifts you gave us stopped working?" "Oh that. We sell refills. You can only get it from us."

[@Swiftbow]

Well, this episode DOES cover that pretty early on. The third episode of season 1, though, has O'Neill bribing a local with a handgun, and then getting out of there in a hurry before the guy realizes it can only be used a little over a dozen times.

[@BlackBanditXX]

While it's never explicitly stated one way or another, I'd wager the Jaffa staff weapon probably needs something to fire too...a reload, if you will.

[@lunaisbestpony4217]

@@BlackBanditXX don't they use liquid naquada?

[@Swiftbow]

@@BlackBanditXX Actually, it is. In "The Fifth Race," O'Neill disassembles Teal'c's staff weapon and removes the power supply. He then uses it to amp the Gate enough to dial the Asgard home world (using the 8th Chevron). Given this is the only time we see a staff's power unit, one would assume they last a REALLY long time. The unit in question is about 3 inches long and appears to contain liquid, thus it is presumably weapon's grade liquid naquadah.

[@BlackBanditXX]

@@Swiftbow Right, I forgot about that ep. If it is naquadah, then it ought to be long lived, but not infinite. But yeah, comparatively, much more so than any of the weapons we use. Now I'm just imagining a father showing his son how it's done, so that he can show his son someday, because it's something they do maybe once a decade IF you see a lot of action.

[@lilmidgey6927]

"your weapons are primitive in comparison" *misses with a shooting spear*

[@ironboy3245]

tbf that thing shoots plasma. Covenant be like: Hello there

[@ravenmoon5111]

@@ironboy3245 Yes, but really it’s only advantage is it doesn’t need ammunition, assuming the battery is long lasting. It’s accuracy and hitting power against flesh and light armor is actually less effective. We think of bullets as low tech, but kinetic projectiles are remarkably efficient

[@ironboy3245]

@@ravenmoon5111 im pretty sure it works well against flesh and light armor. plasma burns at 11,000 degrees c minimum. That's enough to melt steel armor plates, since steel melts at 1425 degrees c. and temperatures that high will cause instant third degree burns on just about anything. You will not survive without a field hospital. do not forget, weapons are not only made to kill. More often, shooting to wound is more efficient, since your enemy will have to direct logistics to keep the wounded treated and the troops supplied. how often can they replace armor plating if it gets melted every engagement? Also, the conductivity of steel would burn whoever was wearing the plate pretty badly as well, second degree burns at best

[@ravenmoon5111]

@@ironboy3245 All we have to go on is the lore of the show. In this scene it’s proven that the P90’s accuracy and rate of fire are superior. While I don’t argue about what a good plasma weapon SHOULD do, as you can see here, the staff weapon lacks that hitting power and due to its very poor design, would be both bulky and inaccurate. Want to see a proper plasma rifle, check the clips from the Terminator. Now, that was a weapon meant to kill

[@ironboy3245]

@@ravenmoon5111 yeah ok that's fair. halo's plasma rifle also does pretty well against rank and file marines

[@RobotsEverywhereVideos]

Picard: "We have something called the prime directive." O'Neil: "Cool cool. We don't."

[@therudecanadian8068]

I could see Jack actually doing that 😂

[@WackoMcGoose]

To be fair, most of the galaxy starts out _technologically superior_ to the Tau'ri. It's almost a reverse Prime Directive, _other_ races making _us_ a "warp-capable race" (whether by us scavenging their shit, or outright giving it to us once we've proven we know what the hell we're doing). Certainly doesn't hurt to have it be revealed the Tau'ri are the descendants of _the entire reason interplanetary, let alone intergalactic, travel exists in the first place_ and all that...

[@ChaineYTXF]

😅

[@funkmantim2661]

Kirk would join him considering how much he screwed with the prime directive.

[@Zork0815]

O'Neill with two L. There is another O'Neil out there who don't have a sense of humor :D

[@takakocaesar579]

“And its capable of doing so at 5 times the range i just demonstrated” Every FPS game: “ N O “

[@BALIST0N]

escape from tarkov : * D A *

[@nathanhancock8663]

every shotgun in video games gets shafted by this the most.

[@ItsJustVirgil]

@Kakashi Hatake I can agree with this, specifically for the P90. It’s built for close quarters, but it’s not too hard to believe that SG teams’ P-90s are otherwise adjusted for longer range fights.

[@pilentus]

Ehhh I wouldn't say every FPS game. Hell Let Loose gets their shit right.

[@funynonsence]

@@BALIST0N don’t get me wrong I love tarky I have everything level 3 except my Bitcoin farm that’s still lvl 1 but filled with all ten graphics cards but the ranging needs to be fixed ASAP bullets either drop to fast or shoot to high and since there isn’t proper ranging it fucks any kind of long range shooting obviously if your running guns with there proper bullets it doesn’t effect it to much but no tarkov isn’t up there yet

[@Atlas3060]

"Major Carter is a formidable warrior" That's Teal'c speak for "Dude you won't win this fight, walk away"

[@Justanotherconsumer]

We need a Teal’c dictionary.

[@0202pmurT]

"Indeed" gets a whole chapter.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@0202pmurT Indeed.

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

In ten seasons, Teal'c never said that about Daniel.

[@ross-carlson]

My favorite line from the clip - I LOVE that he stands up for her and you're exactly right, she would have kicked his ass.

[@josephhatfield6237]

I love how Sam is genuinely uncomfortable with Jack’s demonstration of poor muzzle discipline.

[@alexanderjosefsson4729]

She fliched she loses

[@chriswhite3692]

I mean, she was shooting with a couple guys downrange and like 15 feet from her target.

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@chriswhite3692 I guess in theory it would be she trusts herself not to shoot somebody. And wasn’t Aiming at them. Having someone point a gun at you is a different story. In reality, it has more to do with keeping everybody in the shot without taking too much time out of the show to deal with safety issues. But they could’ve done a little better.

[@chriswhite3692]

@@neilkurzman4907 Richochets

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@chriswhite3692 I guess the script writers and directors did not consider that.

[@MegaTech81]

"THIS is a weapon of war!" With that muzzle control, you make it like a weapon of chaos, sir.

[@theirishviking9278]

And they gave him command of SG command

[@Telados]

@@theirishviking9278 They promoted him to general after seeing his trigger discipline, can't risk friendly fire

[@ILikeMyPrivacytbt]

What do you mean "muzzle control?" Is it the way he lifts the weapon and points it into Carter's face? I'm sure he had his safety on and his finger off the trigger.

[@bsgfan1]

Tbf, Carter’s no better, considering she keeps aiming a loaded weapon downrange while the guy was moving the target.

[@ILikeMyPrivacytbt]

@@bsgfan1 Your right, that is a big no-no. But to be fair she was portraying a strong- confident woman that sci-fi liked to have to attract female viewership, she probably had confidence she wouldn't hit them. Kind of like William Tell and the apple

[@robwalsh9843]

Stargate SG-1: The universe where every single planet looks like British Columbia

[@mickys8065]

This really annoys me to, but to be fair the stargates were either built or moved to planets that could sustain human life, which ridiculously narrows down the number of planets, but I still wish they would've done something simple to go "this isn't earth", even just using CGI to make the leaves purple or something

[@robwalsh9843]

@@mickys8065 Or filmed in another part of Canada, like the badlands.

[@johntilghman]

@@mickys8065 A few of the shows DID have non-earth-like, looked nothing like BC or earth in general.

[@Gregzenegair]

And they all speak American, damn it American culture is everywhere

[@johntilghman]

@@Gregzenegair and they didn't all speak or understand English. But yes a lot did.

[@PLBIV]

"THIS is a weapon of war.... and that's why I just pointed it at my friends head..."

[@fantasticmrnox]

But trigger discipline

[@johncrafton8319]

@@fantasticmrnox Trigger discipline is necessary, but never rely on just trigger discipline. Obey ALL of the firearm safety rules at all times or don't pick up the weapon. He muzzled her, and her reaction was spot-on. Dude shouldn't be handling a weapon.

[@Grim67894]

@@johncrafton8319 Man soldiers flag their comrades all the time.

[@johncrafton8319]

@@Grim67894 In my unit, if a someone did that, they'd give up their weapon and likely get beaten. You DO NOT muzzle your "comrades". The moment someone does that, no one else in the unit will ever trust them or want to be anywhere near them if they're carrying a weapon.

[@Grim67894]

@@johncrafton8319 Really? I've talked to us army soldiers that say it happens all the time. Not on purpose, but it's almost impossible to NOT accidentally flag your teammates when running/on the field etc.

[@tankingbeast1132]

Macgyver: "Guns are bad" Stargate: "Anyways I started blastin...."

[@GreyAcumen]

Well, guns were bad for the type of solo-infiltration-under-ruse-of-not-being-a-special-operative missions he specialized in. When the goal is "kill the enemy before they kill you" I think even Macgyver put aside his paperclips and pulled out actual firearms.

[@56bturn]

@@GreyAcumen Macgyver despised guns and he would always avoid using them if he could, and often only as part of a distraction or something to keep the enemy at bay.

[@BYERE]

In fairness, it wasn't MacGyver doing the blasting this time :P

[@56bturn]

@@BYERE True. But I know he hates guns because I remember an episode where he had to tighten a valve atop of a large dome structure, and all he had was a revolver taken off the bad guy, so he knocked out the trigger and used the guard as a sort of wrench. "I hate heights, and I despise guns. So how the hell did I end up in this situation?"

[@hawkeye5955]

Correction: MacGyver: "I don't like guns." O'Neill: "Anyway, I started blasting..."

[@SheetMusicBoss]

One of the most memorable moments of SG-1.

[@justhere4637]

I didn't think you would be here! So hello and I forgot about your channel.

[@SophiaAstatine]

So that's how it ended up in my recommendations

[@xy2447]

did you also watch a video about p90?

[@alexanderroblox4557]

Amazing innit

[@DJAKONDATM]

American bullchit. The movie and their weapon)) fcking cowboys

[@grahamhaspassedaway4580]

Fun fact - they switched to using the P90 on the show because there was a scene where a bunch of people had to fire standing next to one another, and the MP5s they were using sprayed hot spent casings onto the actor next to you. The P90 downward ejection solved the problem.

[@toomanyaccounts]

they also came up with a story reason. namely the armor piercing rounds of the p90 made it easier to kill the Jaffa.

[@daemonhunter100]

To be fair... the FN 5.7x28mm rounds have a much higher velocity and penetration value. Not to mention teflon-coated rounds are known to be called 'cop killers'.

[@EpicXXProductions]

Teflon coated bullets do not have any extra penetrating ability. The reason they made them was to reduce wear on the rifling in the barrel for high velocity rounds.

[@BenJamin-en3jb]

I guess small caliber high velocity rounds wouldn't tear a log apart like in the scene, though.

[@ThisNewHandleSystemSucks]

Ben Jamin They would be more suited for it than most other cartridges, but definitely not as quickly as shown here.

[@420lildonn]

Anybody else notice the slight jump up she did when he pointed the barrel at her face? Either great actress or she truly understands gun safety

[@Blackheart521]

Damn, didnt notice that, damn :)

[@rigdigwus]

yeah because they all have real guns and can actually shoot each other with those

[@A_piece_of_broccoli]

yeah those were real guns that's why lol

[@eugene188]

yea dude needs some range safety lessons. I've only been shooting once, and that made me jump.

[@manfredmarius5773]

He has good trigger discipline though

[@Jayeeyee]

2:35 Major Carter has a good sense of weapon safety handling. Even though I'm sure what they used were props, the reaction of her's when McGuyver pointed the P90 at her was a genuine reflex.

[@Lowlightt]

They live fired all those guns in the show with blanks.

[@Bigdaddyfarquad]

Ha ha I noticed that same thing

[@ShasLaMontyr]

At that range shock wave even from a blank might have hurt, or even caused harm. Think it was a genuine reaction like you said.

[@chosenfallen2024]

Oh shit I just noticed that. I don't think she was acting.lol

[@tonyshaw7420]

Yup, I noticed her reaction too.

[@Bateluer]

I love this scene because its an incredibly deep piece of world building. The Gua'uld have had a technology advantage over most other Milky Way species. They've only ever faced each other in large ceremonial battles. Their technology is designed to intimidate and induce fear more than effectiveness. From the staff weapons to the death gliders. Earth weapons were honed in live combat against real adversaries, the weapons evolved to be effective first, intimidation was just a byproduct. The Taurii tech completely blindsides the Gua'Uld and their Jaffa. They have no idea how to deal with it.

[@lacroraw]

Imagine their faces if instead of the P-90, they introduced them to the GAU-08

[@goji3908]

Similar to battles in the 17th to 18th centuries, which were designed to scare the enemy away into retreating, instead of flat-out killing all of the enemy soldiers.

[@warwargr3654]

Which is why i love when the Kull Warriors were introduced, while the wrist mounted weapons weren't that accurate, they still held considerable power, range and fire rate. Shame they weren't replicated by the rest of the Jaffa to be used.

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

​@@lacrorawbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

[@jakeg3733]

Exactly and it's the only reason humanity stood a chance. Our technology is more practical. The things designed to kill are designed to do that in a brutally effective manner, as quickly as possible. The Goa'uld empire's tech is the result of a race that has been at the top of the food chain for far too long. They've had no serious challengers (even the Asgard, being near pacifists fighting their own dire war in the Ida galaxy) so everything has devolved into ritualistic combat and political power struggles over the millennia. Their "wars" are no longer struggles for survival, they're internecine power struggles between equals or curb stomping sessions against other races with at best medieval-level technology. Earth was the exception to the rule and by that point the Goa'uld were decadent, arrogant, and had been seriously corrupted by the Sarcophagi to the point they were incapable of seeing us for the threat we truly were to them. Had the events of SG1 somehow taken place thousands of years earlier, it's likely Earth would have been a cinder, with the Goa'uld still on their game. Not to mention, most humans in the Milky Way believed they were Gods and just rolled right over, but our 10,000 years of independence had given us a stubbornness other human populations lacked and a willingness to fight to the end

[@1wing1]

staff weapons in early season: literal RPG shots, destroying walls, throwing people 30meters. staff weapons in later seasons: little puffs of smoke, P90 brrrrr'ing through wood

[@wwlb4970]

I think staffs have adjustable power: for this exact case shooting full was senseless.

[@gabegu5102]

I think the blast yield of staff weapons can be adjusted

[@michaelbcohen]

The staff weapons have different settings for intensity and power. Depends if you want to kill, wound, destroy, etc. This was described by the creators.

[@DerakosZrux]

Merica

[@Swiftbow]

The Staff Weapon power was still pretty strong... they mostly addressed the accuracy issues later on. What really happened was the guns were suddenly more effective. Starting at the end of Season 1, they're suddenly able to kill Jaffa with a burst, whereas before, it took emptying entire magazines, sometimes from multiple guns. (The Nox episode is especially egregious in how ineffective their weapons are... I don't think they even HIT the Jaffa in that scene. Though, to be fair, they are mostly geared for tranquilizing a giant bug at the time.) But, as some have said, the firearm effectiveness increase can be attributed to switching to armor piercing rounds. It's surprising it took them so long to do that, though... they should have been outfitted with them right after the attack on NORAD in the first episode.

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

Raknor did a pretty decent job, hitting a target at that range using a weapon with no iron sights, or really any sighting mechanism of any kind.

[@PhillipAmthor]

He did, this thing needs an 12x scope, tactical laser, bayonett and a bipod

[@afewspokesloose2699]

Instinctive shooting, it's an art. You can still use "point of aim" techniques with an unsighted weapon too; they just take more practice than setting a sight picture on a zeroed sight.

[@JohnFourtyTwo]

Teal'c was pretty good at shooting targets behind him without aiming/looking also, must've used the Jaffa version of the Force. :)

[@Pusfilth]

First Last it’s a Tv show

[@hurtigheinz3790]

@@afewspokesloose2699 Also the weapon is along, straight bar. The way he holds it makes it almost like an extension of your body unlike a bow. So it's not just instictive shooting.

[@wilhufftarkin8543]

"This epsiode was sponsored by FN Herstal!"

[@nicklecitygaming4466]

You mean series

[@Robert_Douglass]

When will they start phasing in E-11s?

[@CaptainSovereign]

@@nicklecitygaming4466 1-3 seasons sponsored by Heckler & Koch

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

@@CaptainSovereign yeah even the movie was all h&k.

[@sugarnads]

FN rules Colt/S&W drools.

[@glennszydlowski5987]

I love the humor that Rich Dean Anderson added to his Jack O'Neill character. The "Hey, you, in the skirt, get that target swinging a little" is one of my favorite humorous lines from the series.

[@Grubnar]

"Just make sure you get one thing right! Spell my name with two "L"s. There is another Colonel O'Neill ... only one "L" ... He has no sense of humour!"

[@jonathanbrown7250]

Fun fact - they badly wanted RDA for this show bc he was just coming off MacGyver. He asked what he could do with the character. They said (it turned out wisely) he could do whatever he wanted. And Jack O'Neill 2.0 was born. Oh, RDA said he didn't want to be disrespectful to the Air Force, so he asks a general one day if his portrayal was too smart ass and cynical for an Air Force officer. The General said RDA was pretty much nailing it. He'd worked with plenty of officers way more smartass and cyincal than Jack O'Neill.

[@mho...]

always kinda hoped for that dude to just start belly dancing, swinging his log around 😲😅

[@Baldwin-iv445]

I remember first hearing that line and the celt in me just started going "IT'S CALLED A KILT YA INBRED SACK OF SHITE!!!".

[@canebro1]

And at the end "... and you know how you are..."

[@bobojo37]

What's funny is that although it appears futuristic and was designed well after things like the AK and AR family of rifles, the P90's operating principle *is* "primitive" - its just a simple blowback gun. No rotating bolt, not gas tube or piston system to cycle the action. Cartridge goes boom, pressure pushes the bullet one way and the bolt in the opposite direction.

[@JnEricsonx]

Even Thor I think later on comments on it's effectiveness.

[@alexschluckbier1075]

The majority of pistol caliber carbines are blowback operated anyway, same as handguns.

[@oddish4352]

That's more due to the cartridge's power level than the modernity of the weapon. The recoil impetus of a 5.72mm is about 2/3 that of a 9mm pistol, despite its longer range and higher kinetic energy

[@Ozymandias1]

The designer of the P90 was René Predazzer.

[@Ozymandias1]

The designer of the P90 was René Predazzer.

[@danielhaire6677]

"Your weapons are primitive by comparison." O'Neill: "Yeah, but we've been kicking your @$$ with them for 5 years now."

[@lorsmephisto5222]

@William Signs "Don't even get me started on how many civilizations I have crumbled with a paperclip and a penny"

[@girf4233]

This is the Internet, you can say ass

[@Blozox]

@@girf4233 but THIS is youtube, where you can say a$$.

[@dojokonojo]

Flashbacks to that episode where a dozen or two SGC personnel are holding back a wave of hundreds of Jaffa as Daniel went looking for Sha're

[@JohnFourtyTwo]

The P90 is only as good as you have 50-round magazines to feed it and hopefully not get jammed. I don't remember any staff weapon running out of energy or misfiring. This was a really odd episode because Richard Dean Anderson is a very strong anti-gun advocate yet he plays a very strong weapons expert in this show and favors his primitive P90 over the vastly superior staff weapon. Granted the staff weapons lacks a sight and traditional grips but you can lay down fire for as long as you need to without worry or weapon's failure or running out of energy.

[@Jarlemoore1]

"Those who have gone up against and survived, you know who you are" He always so snarky.

[@ealing456]

The way O'Neill delivers that line always reminds me of cringey workplace training talks. The fact it's used here in this demonstration is a stroke of genius from the writers.

[@Sovereign01]

Should have said "Those FEW of you", to really hammer the point home 😉

[@jakedrake3660]

his smirk too lol

[@Supperdude9]

@@ealing456 ...well, in the military, this IS a workplace training talk. Down on a range talking guns.

This violated every fire range rule in the book to the point that I can hear instructors screaming.

[@shinobiighost6946]

The dudes standing down range was hurting my sanity lmao

[@jblitzen]

When in Rome. They’re trying to earn respect from the Jaffa who wouldn’t respect safety rules. They wouldn’t understand them either, since their symbiotes should allow them to survive accidents.

[@thenablade858]

People of Jaffa don’t exactly have safety rules. Their leaders are pretty arrogant too.

[@NeoTechni]

@@shinobiighost6946 I said the same thing!

[@Homie_1111]

Him: The female? Her: Do you realize how many of you I've killed with this thing?

[@SilentHotdog28]

Yeah she could mow doen every single one of them there and then and still have ammo in the clip haha.

[@SpartanSniper3]

Her: "Not even in total or with just P90's, just THIS one that I signed out of the armory for this trip."

[@jsnldn]

i wish she had said that. that would've been badass.

[@leifhietala8074]

@Stripey Arse One of the most consistently misused firearm terms in media.

[@jerryhampton5755]

@@leifhietala8074 Technically but the terms are generally interchangeable If you asked another infantryman for an extra clip rather than an extra magazine he would still know what your talking about and yhats whats important. Unlike for instance when any scoped rifle and sometimes even pistol chambered carbine is called a sniper.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

"Your weapons are... primitive by comparison." Carter: "So I took it kinda personal"

[@IronPhysik]

primitive doesnt mean less effective ;))

[@pro10s21]

underrated comment is underrated

[@BCBaron]

Tell that to the replicators

[@cg6522]

@@BCBaron Replicators rule. Nobody can beat them ...

[@robertagren9360]

She missed so many shots that the gun was shooting in every direction than forward

[@thekkl]

This episode of Stargate brought to you by FN Herstal.

[@Epic0201]

***** P-90 ? FN ? Damn, i never knew xD

[@Elthenar]

***** No shit lol. The tiny bullet from a P-90 would not but barely scratch that log and I am not sure it is nearly accurate enough at the range to snip the rope as was shown.

[@Elthenar]

Ben Allen It is my understanding that the P90 is relatively inaccurate at range. The lightweight bullet bleeds energy with a quickness.

[@jasonlee4562]

Elthenar machine guns are rarely as accurate as semi-automatic weapons, especially with sustained fire.Snipers are my personal favorite, the dragunov sniper rifle is a prime example of why they are so very useful.

[@thekkl]

Jason Lee "Machine guns are rarely as accurate as semi-auto" Why would that be?

[@sophielarribaud8222]

I always liked Teal'C’s support and admiration for Sam in this scene. He and Jack know her value in battle and know she doesn’t need their support, but they’re proud to give it to her and to be brothers in arms. The writing and acting of this entire scene... I don't need it but it reminds me why SG1 is my favorite TV serie since more than 20 years.... ❤️‍🔥

[@notthebabydaddy]

This is the clip that made me watch SG-1 and I won’t lie that the 10 seasons is truly an adventure and life changing. Each character is so impactful in their own ways that I grew to love everyone, even some villains.

[@LordJaric]

This is why I am unable to have a favorite character all of the actors did such a fantastic job bringing life to the show.

[@syndos8900]

Like Maybourne and Ba'al. I grew to like these two

[@bryanx0317]

Yep out of all the action scenes and other awesome parts in this show. This is the best scene.

[@primary2630]

RIP my man Curtis and the lady Palmer.

[@ferdinandcrespo6012]

Same here man! Saw this clip almost 2 years ago and made me watch the whole series and now im watching Atlantis

[@xSpooby]

Are we all just going to ignore those two guys down range standing literally 5 feet away from the targets?

[@jamespruitt4756]

the guy that got the target swingin needed a battle buddy!

[@eugene188]

we ignored the dude full on pointing the gun towards the Major's head near the end...so ya.

[@Ghost_R6_]

are we going to ignore the fact that the p90 isnt capable of splitting logs in half and the the term weopon of war is made up......its just a gun

[@andrewscott7728]

@@Ghost_R6_ All terms are made up.

[@jamespruitt4756]

@@Ghost_R6_ it was loaded with high explosive armor piercing tungsten FMJ and coated with lava. *nods*

[@VatiWah]

"those of you who have gone against us and survived, and you know who you are"... lol. Oh man I missed this series.

[@pwnmeisterage]

Cocky, smarmy, smug. Colonel "Jack" O'Niell is a prime example of raw manly anti-intellectualism. But then again ... Richard Dean Anderson has been judged as a "second-rate" actor, is worth over $30 million and might even become President one day, lol, I guess I'm doing it wrong, haha.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

so damned glad I requested it for christmas like 5 years ago. Got the complete series.

[@tomnarey6660]

You should have asked for the P-90

[@Elthenar]

+P the funny thing is, Jack O'Neill was actually highly intelligent. He was never anti-intellectual and he always recognized how valuable the advanced knowledge the Carter and Jackson brought to the table.

[@jbheberling]

VatiWah my god I miss this series. I wish they would bring it back or do something else with it.

[@subliteral]

I do like the analysis by Col. O'Neill about the purpose of a weapon as compared with another. The sheer destructive power & technical advancement of the staff weapon vs. the simpler but more lethal function of the P90. Sort of a lesson on what any particular weapon is best suited for.

[@SeraphimCramer]

Really makes sense too, when you consider that the goa'uld have been using staff weapons since humans were fighting back with slings & bows. They never had any need to advance because their technology was so far beyond that of the humans they were enslaving that they got complacent in their roles as "gods" & never considered having to square up against an actual military threat.

[@MrWolfstar8]

@@SeraphimCramer kind of like chariot warfare in the Bronze Age. The tech was out dated but because all the major powers had stopped making serious war on each other they didn’t update weapon systems. Then the sea peoples started invading with iron tipped weapons and Calvary which just destroyed chariot based warfare. The Egyptians were the only power to really adjust tactics and just barely beat the sea peoples using overwhelming numbers of spearmen and no chariots.

[@WackoMcGoose]

The staff weapon does have _one_ advantage besides intimidation factor... no need to reload. But if you're using the P90 effectively, you shouldn't _need_ to...

[@ShadowOfCicero]

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this also approximately the point Teal'c himself switched to the P90 dual-wield?

[@alekzgavriel-russo7453]

@@MrWolfstar8 Didnt the Egyptian kingdom survive just barely against the sea people only to collapse shortly after? pretty sure the only surviving kingdom was the Assyrian realm of which intelligently receded into their homeland to weather the storm.

[@thatlousygamer4054]

The fact that Carter flinches when O'Neil waves around the P90 in her direction is a nice touch to realism.

[@MrWolfstar8]

I don’t think that was acting.

[@DunjeeTime]

​@@MrWolfstar8 it wasn't. They received actual weapons training for the show, so her flinch at him flagging her with the gun was real

[@therudecanadian8068]

That and it was probably a live weapon (ie, an actual weapon and not a prop).

[@bishop4077]

@@therudecanadian8068 You'd be correct. In an interview years later, the armorer stated that for realism unloaded but real firearms were used as often as possible. Rubber replicas were only used in running/ action scenes that didn't involve shooting. The entire crew, including extras, were extensively trained using real live ammo. All gun fights where there is reloading and clearing of weapons is the cast reacting to the firearms not scripted. There are several times in the show where both main characters and extras actually clear jams and perform reloads on the fly. To add to this and, much to the dismay of the actors, full power blanks were also used as often as possible. This gives the firearms a feeling of realism that can't be matched by CGI it was also apparently well loved by the sound techs as they got cool and unique sounds that couldn't else wise be achieved.

[@deadturret4049]

​@@bishop4077Dismay isnt the word I'd use. Ben Browder and Michael Shanks both spoke positively about it. The only negative thing cast members have said about using the real guns is whenever they had to use sparking pellets in a running firefight. The actors would have actual pellets shot at the ground around them, and sometimes it would kick debris around cause small cuts on their ankles. They apparently loved the blank rounds thoughs.

[@paecmaker]

Look how Carter reacts at 2:35 when he points the P90 towards her

[@ScreamingSkullSaloon]

+paecmaker I did not even notice that the first time I watched this. I would have smacked him so hard in the face.

[@Zamolxes77]

+ScreamingSkullSaloon Well he didn't point it directly at her, it looks like that because of the camera angle.

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

+paecmaker lol gotta love the way she jiggled a bit.

[@NamelessBody]

Good reflex to have.

[@Mallrick]

hahaha never noticed

[@berserkerlewis7089]

😍😍 She called it a mag not a clip. She's a keeper.

[@danielthunder9876]

Excuse my ignorance, whats the difference?

[@berserkerlewis7089]

@@danielthunder9876 A magazine is what you actually load into the gun. A clip is basically a little piece of metal that has about 10 or so bullets attached to it. In my experience so far, generally ammunition comes in clips, which you then load into a magazine. The only time you would actually "empty a clip" is if you were firing a much older rifle such as the M1 Garand.

[@armano4125]

@@berserkerlewis7089 thanks, I needed someone to explain that

[@berserkerlewis7089]

@@armano4125 All good man. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not knowing something. What matters is that you're not willfully ignorant.

[@naturesquad9174]

i will never call them mags

[@rof2877]

"Those of you who have gone up against us and survived, and you know who you are, you know what I'm talking about." God I love O'Neill's humor

[@Mugthraka]

One of the show's best thing.

[@renatocustodio1000]

Yep, he is nothing like O'Neil'. That one didn't have a sense of humor.

[@Grubnar]

i was expecting the camera to zoom in on two frowny-faced guys in the back, looking at each other.

[@zwordsman]

Leadership points for not feeling humiliated and instead, happily acceptd and turning it into a celebration. I still want a p90 well ps90 considering civvie. Just on principle

[@japr1223]

Lol except that leader turned out to be a goul'd and he didn't care because he thought he'd organised for them all to be wiped out from orbit.

[@Turboy65]

You can get a true P90 (semi-auto and short barrel) if you just pay the extra 200 dollar fee to get your SBR tax stamp. Not a big deal.

[@DSiren]

@@Turboy65 yeah but longer barrel gives better ballistics so why go through the hassle if you're not going for the full auto CQB?

[@GunNr-]

OldSlowGamer Only the PS90. The p90 was made after the Hughes amendment so it can’t be owned by civilians. Just dealers and law enforcement.

[@skrilaxx]

I used to have a p90. Amazing and excellent gun. Don't get one. I sold mine because ammo 5 7x28 is impossible to find and it's extremely expensive. Also extra mags are like 60 bucks. Also also the ps90 has a stupid barrel.

[@R3V0LV3R45]

The smug inflection of RDA’s voice with “And you know who you are….” Is great.

[@ScovilleMan]

“This is a weapon of war.” *Points it at the woman

[@mephi2924]

Well you can start a war with the reason for woman

[@cristianflorescu2827]

Indeed, but his finger is of away of the trigger.

[@wellshit9489]

@@cristianflorescu2827 still bad trigger discipline

[@unarmedcivilian]

She flinches hard too

[@darthmeta6445]

@@wellshit9489 I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

[@spaken2768]

2:36 "This.. is a weapon of war, it's made to kill your enemy." *points it straight at Carter's head* xD

[@lemmingrad]

Reminded of this episode whenever I see Wakanda energy spears.

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

It's one of my favorite scenes in sci-fi shows/cinema, "you can use bullshit sci-fi bullshit that's objectively awful or you can use an actual weapon". I like that.

[@wiseguy01]

one of those energy spears can destroy a tank in one shot, so is a considerable bit more useful than a staff weapon. Plus Wakandan warriors wear actual bullet proof armor which also helps.

[@dariustiapula]

@@wiseguy01 Or use those to build tanks instead. Personally I always prefer overkill and just build helicarriers and helibattlehips out of it.

[@ericmanget4280]

@@wiseguy01 Can they destroy a tank from several kilometers away because that's the range of a tank?

[@wiseguy01]

@@ericmanget4280 they don't need to, numerous tanks are lost to infantry armed with RPGs and less. Give a soldier armor that can withstand a tank shell, such as vibranium, and a close to mid range weapon with the power to turn a tank to slag and your tank just became obsolete.

[@LittleBlacksheep1995]

Trigger discipline: followed. Muzzle disclipline: NOT FOLLOWED. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@hycron1234]

P 1990's.

[@Yourantsally]

He literally points it at her head at the end smh

[@bbgun061]

And why on whatever planet this is were those guys hanging out downrange?

[@ItsLerez]

You can see her jump when it happens too

[@ndfan2007]

Holy s*** she does jump lol

[@thedramaticcharismatic5664]

Status. [X] Rekt [ ] Not Rekt

[@epgbros]

Hollis Muenster Shrekt. By Carter the crazy woman.

[@Cheburashka207]

The epic game bros My fav charcter in SG1.Sam. Well after Vala :D

[@0hvist]

Final Evaluation [x] Dunked On [ ] Not Dunked On

[@deKaizer]

[X] Tyrannosaurus Rekt

[@Raubritter1052]

[X] Perhaps. [X] Perhaps. [X] Perhaps.

[@Johny40Se7en]

I absolutely LOVE the level smugness in Carter and O'Neill after the demonstration, and rightly so. "Those of you who've gone up against us and survived... you know who you are" 😏😅😆

[@t850terminator]

Everyone rushing B: “Write that down, write than down!”

[@TobbeDraws]

wut?

[@argy8104]

Have ever heard of csgo by any chance

[@prometheus9096]

p90 noob

[@DXultra]

Rush B no stop

[@Krigalishnikov]

"Single shot? Never heard of that" - average P90 user

[@mistertibbs472]

The old saying holds true. Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match against a good blaster at your side.

[@Agent1W]

+Mister TIBBS! I believe it was "hokey religions and ancient weapons".

[@Ferelcapox7]

- man killed by said ancient weapon in an universe where said ancient weapons are the most powerful weapons any one person can have

[@dyllanalford5276]

@@Ferelcapox7 To be fair it was basically assisted suicide

[@dewmdoomie1730]

@@Ferelcapox7 Against a slugthrower, a jedi knight won't be able to easily block against solid projectiles that are harder too see and faster than blaster bolts with a lightsaber and they would eventually get overwhelmed and riddled with lead.

[@Gooberpatrol66]

@@Ferelcapox7 The Force Awakens never happened.

[@wk3820]

This is literally my favorite scene in the entire series. Second favorite scene is Carter and Daniel Jackson eating MRE's. Daniel say, "Tastes like chicken." Carter asks, "What's wrong with that?" Daniel: "It's macaroni and cheese!" You can tell that Stargate SG-1 relied more heavily on their Air Force advisors than almost any other show, sci-fi or otherwise, especially when they got into mid-to-later seasons. Even down to Amanda Tapping cutting her hair to keep in regulation. The show really embraced Air Force culture, and that affection was widely reciprocated by both active duty and vets.

[@stuartmcclurey9926]

What episode did Daniel talk about tastes like chicken again?

[@FS2K4Pilot]

Which is why they had cameos from USAF Chiefs of Staff Generals Ryan and Jumper, and also why, after an episode where Gary Jones was addressed as "Sergeant", they got an email stating in no uncertain terms that Walter Harriman was a Chief Master Sergeant, and would henceforth be addressed as such.

[@mikee5718]

well, our future space force (not a joke) will adopt a lot of air force doctrine considering that the Air Force already deals with satellites and other outer-space ventures. I agree with you that it was the right course of action. The Army and our sister crayon-eaters definitely wont have a place in space warfare for a long time.

[@FS2K4Pilot]

Mathiase Taddeo Fortunately for the SGC, they included a full team of Marines to teach them how to fight.

[@willieoelkers5568]

@@mikee5718 Navy. Unless you plan to fly snub fighters across distances so vast it takes light itself years to travel across. Heck even just planet to planet is over 66 million miles at its shortest, relative to Earth.

[@harambes_revenge9220]

SG-1 was one of best teams in a sci-fi series. It was a well rounded group. I miss Star-gate

[@danielhaire6677]

The problem is that IRL no one would be stupid enough to allow it through the gate even once. Carter and Daniel literally have brains that are irreplaceable, given what is going on. Teal'c is the equivalent of a defecting General officer. His intelligence and knowledge of enemy forces is too critical to risk losing to a lucky enemy shot.

[@The360MlgNoscoper]

@@danielhaire6677 Well, they did last 10 years of service without any permanent losses. Fewer bodybags and more effective in missions. It was the elite squad among the elite squads.

[@darthhaul58]

That line at 2:53. "Those that have gone up against us and survived, and you know who you are..."

[@enavy04]

😂

[@MichaelSimmons10Jul1969]

Oh, the snark and smarmy way that got said!

[@houseofpaine5251]

I just imagine some Jaffa awkwardly shuffling like "don't make eye contact they won't recognise me"

[@dylano9950]

Even with the character recast it still holds up with Kurt Russell's vibe perfectly.

[@ARingADingBaby]

"This is a weapon of terror! It's made to intimidate the enemy! This is a weapon of war! It's made to rush B cyka blyat!" - O'Neill on some distant world in the 2000s.

[@joaquincobas2223]

Hahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

[@22hex78]

@@joaquincobas2223 hey you man in skirt get more like for the comment

[@maestrolodahl8681]

Omg imma on the floor lauging xD xD xD Hahahaha :D

[@LiftUpYourEyes]

lmfao

[@zer00rez46]

LMFAO! Awesome. just awesome.

[@Neonice82]

This is the perfect example of a strong female lead character. No Mary Sue, no special ability just a strong and confident female and mutual respect between the males and the females. And because every body knows it, nobody hast to point it out! Maj. Charter has always been one of my favorite characters in TV history.

[@eisenadler4942]

Couldn't agree more. That idiot Kathleen Kennedy should have done more research before ruining Star Wars like she did with Rey.

[@CurryFeatures]

Here here!

[@GlobalStrike1]

Damn straight!

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

* binges on Mauler videos *

[@slappy8941]

And yet she's still not a man...

[@AaronLitz]

I never really watched much of this show, but this scene is just _incredibly_ well done.

[@MiBrCo4177]

Stargate the movie is good, but the show that is based as a sequel to the film (different actors and more story) is amazing! definitely worth a watch. 10 seasons of pure goodness. wholesome, action, humor, sadness. just overall a great show. the spinoffs are not bad either. SG: Atlantis (with jason mamoa as ronin) and SG: universe. plus in the later seasons they have ben browder and cladia black (from farscape) on the show as regulars and make some pretty funny gags about them knowing each other from their previous show.

[@nicolajohnson1887]

It's in my top 5 shows of all time but them I'm a sci fi nerd so my preference is towards that type of show.

[@jesterfest9667]

Everything was great until he flagged her @2:38

[@sophielarribaud8222]

My forever favorite TV show ❤️‍🔥

[@n0denz]

A pretty good representation of Goa'uld weaponry: form over function, symbolic meaning over functionality. Also I genuinely enjoy how even after being at war with the Goa'uld for years, O'Neill still pronounces their name wrong.

[@TheBOB235]

Its due to his lack of respect for them

[@Ragitsu]

Staff weapons deal greater damage and possess greater endurance than any comparable Earth longarm. Plus, energy weapon blasts aren't affected by gravity or wind. That weapon does have its uses.

[@blusafe1]

Jack mispronounces on purpose.

[@yoggz]

I think the actor who played Hammond genuinely had a hard time saying Goa'uld

[@Ragitsu]

@@yoggz Ghouuld.

[@patrickjones8255]

Carter's face when o'neill flags her with the barrel of his gun always gets me. She didn't wanna get Brandon Lee'd

[@warcraftdude13]

Blanks would still kill her at that range in my opinion.

[@frontrussian4951]

@@warcraftdude13 Dont think so but they would hurt. There is a russian movie called "brat" (brother) where they shoot blank shotgun at extreme close distance and actor didint die but it hurted like hell. If I remember they left that in a final cut but after that they started pointing guns little bit to the side of an actors. link and time stamp 1:25:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5bafXWEaZh7p6s&ab_channel=%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F%22%D0%A1%D0%A2%D0%92%22

[@Novur]

Fortunately, SG-1 had experienced armorers on set, rather than the prop guy with only a vague understanding of ballistics and firearm safety that The Crow used. It's still essential to exercise proper muzzle and trigger discipline at all times, but the reality is that she was in no real danger of being "Brandon Lee'd." It wasn't a blank that killed Brandon, it was a bullet. Common misconception (and personal pet peeve), look it up if you're curious; the short version is that the prop guy screwed up and left a bullet in the barrel, which the blank propelled just like a live cartridge.

[@gaskamp2]

@@Novur He got Squibed? Oh man, that's even more tragic.

[@Novur]

@@gaskamp2 Yeah it was awful, especially because there were about a half dozen separate, individual things that could have been done to avoid it. A real firearm was used for the scene, rather than having deactivated or purpose-built blank firing weapons. The scene was shot from a few different angles, and in one angle the camera could see the cartridges in the cylinder; rather than going to the expense of acquiring dummy rounds, the props guy just yanked the bullets out of some live cartridges, tipped out the powder, and stuck the bullets back in. The scene was shot in chronological order, so the shot of the front of the weapon (with the visible bullets) was filmed first. When the actor pulled the trigger, the hammer struck the primer which hadn't been removed, and as you say, that was enough pressure to squib load the bullet. They set up for the next angle, and the prop guy loaded the blanks, but DIDN'T clear the firearm, so the squib was still in place. If common sense or a sensible level of caution had been employed by any of the people responsible for the props at any point in the process, Brandon would have lived. It twists my gut every time I think about it, but a lesson was learnt that day. In spite of the misinformation surrounding Brandon's death, his name still serves as a powerful and lasting caution to anyone handling potentially deadly weapons, and I'm sure that even the most inaccurate retellings have saved lives.

[@jackdaone6469]

“Those of you who have gone up against us and survived…and you know who you are.” Love that line, lowkey burning them.

[@JnEricsonx]

Just watch the crowd, see who flinches when the P90 fires.

[@jackdaone6469]

@@JnEricsonx But then the question becomes: Are the ones flinching veterans who are afraid of the power of the P90, or are the ones not flinching the veterans because they’re used to the sound? For me, either is a possibility.

[@arhonvalran1551]

Jaffa: And what defence system do you use? O'Neil: Mostly plot armor.

[@DragonKnightJin]

O'Neill, with 2 L's. The O'Neil with 1 L doesn't have a sense of humor.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

@@DragonKnightJinwhat about o’neilll (because he lives, laughs, and loves)?

[@Evil0tto]

Jack: "I can't arm you, sadly. The Prime Directive applies... HAHAHAHA!!! OK, I can't finish that sentence with a straight face. The Prime Directive is to kill Goa'uld. Here you go."

[@Swiftbow]

SG-1 was the tale of the "primitive" race constantly being told that we couldn't have the fancy tech because of the alien's prime directive. (Seriously, look at the Tollan... they are basically Picard/TNG.) And yet look who saved the Galaxy...

[@PokePika01]

Jack totally would say that, too. Complete with a disapproving stare from Carter.

[@Neuttah]

@@Swiftbow Stargate also had its fair share of episodes, where idiots stole, or just tinkered with stuff that was plain out of their league, causing disaster scenarios. Hell, sometimes, it was even SG-1 that were the initial idiots! Sure, all well that ends well, but it's the kind of stuff where you only have to be reasonably unlucky once. We might not appreciate it much, but a decent chunk of the time, the haughty elven asshole isn't even fundamentally wrong. *And, also, you can't really have a "Bad," end for such an episode, and keep running the same show anymore. So more or less impervious plot armour.

[@Swiftbow]

@@Neuttah I won't quibble that the team made mistakes, though. (I'm looking at you, Atlantis.) But Sam takes the cake... her decisions with Replicarter almost destroyed the entire galaxy. Fortunately, she was also smart enough to fix her own mistake. But If you're going to bring up the plot armor that solve some of the poor decisions, you also have to acknowledge that some of the bad decisions are equally forced to let the plot happen. Such as Shar're's death. Why didn't Teal'c have a Zat gun? Or with her again, why, after she gave birth, did they leave her on the planet instead of bringing her to Earth anyway? The problem with the very haughty races isn't so much that they don't share tech... it's that they also don't do crap themselves. Hell, the Tollan did NOTHING for Earth in the whole series. The one time they MIGHT have helped (Jack and Teal'c stuck in the X-301), they "had no ships in range." The Tok'ra were haughty, too. But at least they were actively engaged and did participate in joint missions. There were issues, but they didn't stem from the lack of tech sharing. (Which they did to a degree... use of crystals, invisibility decloakers, and developing the anti-Kull Warrior weapon.)

[@Spaced92]

@@Neuttah I see it as Stargate was very much driven by 60's Star Trek, but with more distinctly American exceptionalism and optimism regarding dangerous technology. Like come on every country is apparently happy for America to represent Earth intergalactically, and the US is the only one with spaceships. The haughty elven asshole is always undercut for that reason, like when the Tollan were too "naive" about the Goa'uld, and O'Neill is often seen as a superior example/representative of humanity compared to Daniel Jackson, even to the Asgard just coz he's a gun totin 'merican. It's all because of the unconscious bias towards the protagonist, anything that seems perfect has to be "wrong" compared to the protagonists approach. It's a great series don't get me wrong, but nothing is ever perfect and to me the main strengths of the show are actually the character relationships and humour, which is why every spin off has underwhelmed financially. The actual series concept was undercut before the series even began, the real sell was the issue of the week stuff.

[@caveymoley]

2:36 Don't you just hate it when you catch a glimpse down the muzzle of someone else's gun...

Yeah, I noticed her flinch too.

[@Walsh2571]

@ that's a good flinch, means you've been conditioned to treat the weapon as a real threat

[@hay466]

@@Walsh2571 might be a real weapon just using blanks which can be Lethal at close range.

[@Kilgore1004]

@@hay466 Yep. Not *exactly* how Brandon Lee died but it's certainly been a concern of mine ever since that movie.

[@marcusjahnke9287]

Me too. If I’d done that at the range...

[@sugardaddy4714]

This has to be one of the greatest product placement for a firearm in TV/movie history, up there with James Bond's Walther PPK. 20 years later, every mention of the P90 is sure to make people think back to that scene. Just read the comment section of any KZbin demonstration video of that weapon.

[@cohlroxkim4819]

Golden Eye on N64 consoles was the perfect product placement for the P90

[@ivicamajmunskikreten9714]

no? every mention of the p90 is people thinking of "cyka blyat rush B"

[@DOI_ARTS]

You forgots Ash's boomstick

[@gabegu5102]

It worked on me lol. I brought a PS90 mainly because of watching this show as a kid. Lol

[@bernb]

I love the Stargate franchise and SG1, but SG1 as a whole is advertising for the military. Advertising for why it's good the military keeps secrets, advertising for why it's bad the military has civil supervision etc.

[@sixnps]

I love that little smile after she demonstrates single shot.

[@TheRomanRuler]

Such primitive weapons. Real men have swords. Then they unscrew the pommel, throw the sword away, and throw the pommel.

[@TheDaaabou]

hahah

[@rubixgamer6598]

Such primitive weapons real men have sticks and stones

[@PeachDragon_]

That's how you end the enemy rightly.

[@rubixgamer6598]

Best weapons to handle all the females since the Flintstones age

[@David-my7ig]

A weapon to surpass metal gear

[@orko714]

"HEY YOU! IN THE SKIRT!"

[@ELing-ib1ki]

Scottish people whenever someone refers to their kilts as skirts:

[@NichtNameee]

And he understands english

[@TheDVDwr]

You're finally awake

[@director00donut39]

This is a weapon of terror This is a weapon of war I love how detailed that outline of the weapons and their uses actually is. Like damn.

[@DSiren]

Unpopular opion: mass shootings are good because otherwise these people would be using indiscriminate weapons of terror instead of pin-point precise weapons of war. My opinion: If you're going to take my guns because of someone else committing a crime that's guilt by association - and the only association being ownership of an object.

[@Dja05]

@@DSiren Your unpopular opinion is wrong. Outside the fact that "weapon of war" is a meaningless qualifier most mass shootings happen with handguns. But I agree with the sentiment, if mass shooters really wanted to just kill people, they could just homebuild a bomb or rent a semi truck...

[@DSiren]

@@Dja05 I totally understand what you mean. IMHO the only gun control that would ever make ANY sense would be pistol control and the privilege of concealed carry. Ain't nobody going to ambush you with a rifle, ain't nobody going to pull a rifle out of their ass and get the drop on a cop. Ain't no way you'll hide a rifle from your ex before executing her, but hell yeah you can organize a militia with riflemen. The fact they're going after rifles despite the statistics and the basic fact that you can't surprise someone with a rifle, proves this is about all guns. When you see a rifle you know it's there, it's big and therefore will catch your eye better when it's moved. Then again, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED so I don't even support pistol control. Maybe a national pistol registry to make traffic stops safer, but not control.

[@DSiren]

@WystenDraco I really did phrase it wrong, but I agree with you entirely. However, I don't trust the government to determine who is or isn't mentally healthy, in fact I don't trust anyone with that kind of power. I am also of the opinion that we shouldn't be releasing those who we couldn't trust with a gun (in regards to ex-felons). I believe, once you serve your time, rightfully or wrongfully accused, you should be able to lawfully own a gun.

[@toddkes5890]

Combine the two weapons. Take a staff weapon, cut it down to just the plasma projector, add rifle grips and iron sights. Much higher accuracy, and much more ammunition than the P90. Plus it prevents the Jaffa from being dependent on Earth for ammunition. Add a sling on top so it is easier to carry hands-free. Plus you can put an under-barrel Zat on it, or reinforce the stock, or add a bayonet, or other fun stuff

[@coadacatalin4510]

I love how carefully Imhotep listens to them talking about the weapons, only to slip back into the jaffa persona. Great bit of subtle acting.

[@RoseSupreme]

Life lesson: Don't shit-talk Earth's weaponry.

[@Leviathis_Krade]

and if you do; you better be prepared for the nigh endless amount of weaponry the earth has developed

[@jiriblahos4051]

I think they made a point later in this episode though about the magazines supply dependency. Which is a good point. But in "reality" it's really because having a weapon with a seemingly everlasting energy source is nonsense.

[@Neuttah]

It's not so much that the things would be everlasting, just heinously long-lasting in standard operation, and if they do run dry, there's going to be plenty to replace them with. Likely even a facility to produce more, that the Jaffa could use. On the other hand, human guns and ammo are far less dense, and worst of all, they will only ever come from one place.

[@zerginfestorhots6132]

@@Neuttah only come from one place? What do you mean?

[@kliner451]

One of my favorite parts of the Damned trilogy is when the Weave learns that Earth hasn't figured out fusion energy but has missiles that can take out spacecraft.

[@МихаилРадулов-й4т]

Overall humans had the best gear and training for ground combat to any of the other alien races. Idk why they always say we are primitive. True the rest of our tech might be but we`ve been developing weapons as long as mankind roamed the earth.

[@Huma270490]

Taking a side that this is Sci-fi, any race that can travel between planets can call us primitives and the would be 110% right. Out of hollywood or books, we would be wiped out by any xenos race that can traver between planets.

[@МихаилРадулов-й4т]

Huma270490 Fair said , but still it depends on how the war is fought. They may have the engines and navigation to operate in space but that doesnt mean they can simply wipe out the rest of civilizations.

[@Huma270490]

Mihail Radulov Because high tech ships means that they use rocks and sticks on a fight..... Normally every aspect of the technology has the same level, or do you know any country on Africa with a space program but no electricity?

[@Cha-Khia]

to put it simply, if your civilization is adventurous and creative, your space traveling capabilities might be pretty advanced, where as your weapons might be poop by comparison, where a civilization that has known only war for thousands of years but has achieved conventional space travel is likely to have very powerful weapons tech, but their space tech may be lack luster. consider that these aliens are not like us humans and do not behave like us, they wouldn't evolve the same as us and neither would their technology.

[@Huma270490]

Zakti If any xenos race come to earth with hostile intencions we would be so dead that fight against them would be 110% useless. In comparison it could be like a medieval kingdom fighting a modern army, a total annihilation( I think that is who the word is written on english)

[@invertedgames7993]

Note to anyone who wants to have prop guns in a movie/TV show: don't have P90's with transparent magazines. after you shoot 20+ rounds into something we can still see that there hasn't been a single bullet taken out of the damn thing.

[@ZontarDow]

+joe kickass Alien technology allowing for instant replenishment of ammo.

[@invertedgames7993]

dave19941000 Yeah they must have mini stargates in there magazines or something.

[@ZontarDow]

joe kickass Why use mini stargates when you can use mini "jump anywhere drives"?

[@reclaimingfire7903]

+dave19941000 hahaha WORMHOLE DUES EX MACHINA DRIVE !

[@CruelestChris]

Naw, you can just about see the brass coming out of the bottom of the weapon as she's firing. Most productions use real guns firing "hot" blanks to produce a more distinctive muzzle flash. Most likely the inconsistent number of rounds loaded is because of multiple takes.

[@kayleegoins9838]

This has got to be my favorite scene in all of SG1. There have been a number of scenes where Sam showed just how badass she was, but this one does it with extra bit of humor, and Jack is happy to give it to her!

[@justafaniv1097]

As far as explaining Stormtrooper aim, I think Stargate did a fair job.

[@springbloom5940]

Stormtroopers are very good shots. The 'stormtrooper aim' trope, is a myth. How bout when they boarded Leia's ship? Which side of that would you want to be on?

[@Gunnar001]

@@springbloom5940 You mean when the Stormtroopers were firing down a tight hallway filled with enemy targets? Uh...yeah. Of course they managed to actually hit something. I love how people bring up that scene like it's some kind of impressive feat of accuracy. There's really nothing impressive about it. They should've been completely slaughtered pushing through that tiny fatal funnel. The only thing that saved them was the defending Rebels being even more ridiculously inaccurate than the stormtroopers. It was laughable how they couldn't hold that doorway with that many guns focused on it. Nah. Stormtroopers are consistently shown to be cannon fodder that only achieve victory with overwhelming with numbers. Which side would I want to be on? Definitely not the stormtrooper's side. They suck.

[@springbloom5940]

@@Gunnar001 Right, wonder how many firefights you've been in. Wait, no I don't.

[@Gunnar001]

​@@springbloom5940 Go look up fatal funnel and how dangerous moving through it is, kiddo. Kinda the reason why it's called that. 10 armed and ready troops focused on that one small entry point and they barely hit anything. They're total garbage. And the attacking horde of stormtroopers were just blindly charging through and wildly firing down a narrow hallway crammed with targets at near point blank range. Laughably incompetent defending force and target rich environment in a confined space. There's nothing impressive here and definitely nothing that supports good stormtrooper aim.

[@springbloom5940]

@@Gunnar001 Your assertion appears to be that an assault can never succeed against against a basically competent defending force? Makes one wonder what we all have been training for, huh? Um, I know what a 'fatal funnel' is, dumbshit. I also know what massing a breach is 😒

[@MinimalistBachelor]

I remember in an episode that even the Asgard thinks human's projectile weapons are far more effective than energy weapons when it comes to fighting against the replicators.

[@possibly_a_retard]

+Desolation -- The thinking was something like: Because the Asguard would never think to do something stupid like use an intentional explosion in a confined space to hurl a chunk of metal at their enemy.

[@AmericanPoliceState]

+ThePolysyllabist Could be the AP rounds they are using too.

[@jimmyjohnson7769]

well energy weapons can be adapted to where as unless each replicator had a sheild they cant adapt to kinectic forces save for the human based replicators

[@Zamolxes77]

+AmericanPoliceState Actually AP rounds would be less effective against replicators than buckshot. Replicators are big spiders with relative soft bodies against kinetic damage, they also move fairly quickly and in a jerky fashion, so a bullet might miss them completely, while a cloud of buckshot would definitely hit them. The 1st time Asgard kidnap O'Neill and replicators are introduced, he asks for a SPAS-12 - auto shotgun basically.

[@MrAcerulez]

+Desolation The replicators adapt to the Asgard's energy weapons but think of the kinetic weapons as too primitive. They can only think in one direction and have one directive, to adapt and advance.

[@darthrobin2325]

"Hey you! In the skirt! Get that target swinging!" XD

[@fabianweber6937]

Paul Chisholm that comment made my day thx xD

[@davecrupel2817]

@@paulchisholm1904 hahahahaha xD

[@Murky_MurkiMurka]

Yep

[@LordTalax]

Yes just say cock on the internet and all the kids get excited

[@moseszero3281]

@@paulchisholm1904 "Carter. Show them single fire mode."

[@cytorakdemon]

American Secret Service: "What do you mean you're out of P90 ammo? Who else is buying it in bulk besides us?"

[@Daguigoz]

“Fire away son” ... that guy is like 150 yo!

[@e_4325]

😂 and yet he still looks young enough to be his son lol

[@theishiopian68]

It's not about age, it's about mileage

[@Daguigoz]

@@theishiopian68 they were born as slave soldiers. The guy was the best of the elite slave soldiers with centuries of practice

[@phantasosxgames8488]

@@Daguigoz with a very innefective speargun that a 20-30 years old woman could bring a higher letality with a less fancy gun.

[@Daguigoz]

@@phantasosxgames8488 lol even if my elders were less rich and less educated than I, I wouldn’t call them « son »

[@Trazynn]

O'Neil cares more about his own ears than about the two guys standing directly next to the target.

[@tyrannicpuppy]

he knows how good Carter's aim is. and they're only Jaffa

[@roguevector1268]

I mean, the guys standing near the target wouldn't need that much hearing protection compared to O'Neil

[@Ragitsu]

@@tyrannicpuppy " and they're only Jaffa" Fuck you.

[@blusafe1]

@@tyrannicpuppy "only Jaffa." I'm going to give benefit of the doubt and assume this meant that Jaffa can super-heal, rather than any racist undertone.

[@devynmalu]

@@blusafe1 “racist” that would be xenophobic not racist bud

[@MitchellTF]

"We accept your gifts with humility. Also: I need new smallclothes."

[@AzguardMike]

and secondly, you can call me....Imotep *eyes glow*

[@jonbutcher9805]

"Hey you in the skirt." Classic O'Neill. Love this show. RIP Don and Cliff. Gen Hammond and Ba'al.

[@deadturret4049]

Also the guy who played jacob carter, sam's father, passed a few years ago

[@jonbutcher9805]

@@deadturret4049 indeed. Carman died awhile back as had the lady who passed Selmak to Jacob.

[@ZarconVideo]

THIS IS MY BOOM STICK

[@grtwhtbnr]

Shop Smart...Shop S-Mart...YA GOT THAT!!!!

[@michaelmartin8337]

All right, you primitive screw-heads, listen up! Now I swear, the next one of you primates even touches me...

[@demonlordomegaacepilot7090]

THIS IS MY RIFLE THIS MY GUN!

[@pendraco2000]

YAAAAAAAHHH!!!!

[@luiswen9437]

There are many like it but this one is mine

[@ZedsDeadXO]

I remember seeing that scene as a kid, on hindsight I'm left wondering why an advanced alien civilization would use such a clunky and large weapon as their main small arms.

[@benni5541]

Does it really matter ? They mostly do it for style points like their horrible inefficiently shaped ships or always facing their biggest enemys in the crown room so they can stab them. With tech this advanced they would probably either virus bomb all planets from orbit or have some sort of beam guns that you just need to point in the general direction and it blast you with such an amount of radiation that anx biological beeing drops dead behind 10m walls. They have super advanced nuclear fuel cepls in these staffs for f sake.

[@ZedsDeadXO]

@@benni5541 Style over substance huh? I guess it makes sense, but I'm still bothered that their weapons are this inefficient compared to the technologically crippled humans. I mean they don't even have a sight lmfao, they're aiming on instinct.

[@Farsightful]

Culture. we ourselves have pretty much everything running suboptimal anyway. who are we to judge hollywood aliens anyway xD

[@mbm2355]

It's funny.. using a long staff with an enormous "sight radius" their best marksman is essentially as accurate as if he was throwing the stones by hand. Yet the slingers in David's army could hit a horse's hair at will from much farther.

[@ZedsDeadXO]

@@Farsightful Well I'd argue that there's a difference between suboptimal outcome due to technological limitation and suboptimal outcome due to complete design oversight. Like the fact that ergonomics and accuracy were seemingly not even part of the equation when designing their ranged weapon.

[@GastNdorf]

"You can't do better than my wush wush batton". Meanwhile, P90 go brrrrr

[@Skiergold]

"Wush-wush baton." I'm stealing that one. 😂

[@escapegulag4317]

I loved this show so much. What a blessing that time was

[@VandalAudi]

Space Marine : This is is a Godwyn Pattern Bolt Rifle, also known as a bolter. * destroys target and it’s surrounding * This is a weapon of war, a symbol of authority, will and the might of the God Emperor. Ork : Dis be me dakka shoota! * DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA * Iz Zoggin bootiful, innit?

[@pendraco2000]

HERESY! *BLAM*

[@DaemonsAdvocate]

You nailed the Orc speech pattern

[@manictiger]

This... is the eye of terror. It is a source of endless target practice. This... is the Heavy Thunder Hammer. It is for liquifying anything the emperor does not like.

[@tanith117]

This is the Galaxy pattern las Gun. It costs 5 dollars to make and its ammo can be recharged by a campfire. It has a Variety of Power settings ranging from "Laser pointer" to "Punch through power armor in one shot" It has a Maximum range of 30 inches and can fire up to 4 shots a turn.

[@corous7880]

For the emperor my friend

[@chavzone]

"This weapon is called Product Placement by Fabrique Nationale." :^) Did you know that at the time, the P90 outperformed all competition by a mile and would have been the official NATO sub-machinegun, had Germany not thrown a hissy fit and veto'd it because it was made in Belgium?

[@Fragtastik]

@apco47 We live in a society Edit: I forget who I was responding to and why, but they've obviously deleted the comment.

[@CruelestChris]

@Nebel Werfer We had the MP7 back then too, the P90's 5.7mm round was found to perform better than the MP7's 4.6mm, but Germany didn't want to use some dirty Belgian round and so NATO ended up having to can the program to replace the 9mm round.

[@sevonthegreat]

@@CruelestChris The arms industry is pretty influential in Germany. They even tossed the decent G36 to buy some new bundeswehr rifles for about €250 million to help out struggling heckler & koch. Politics sucks sometimes. I bet it was the same guys who wanted to have their shitty MP7 as NATO's first PDW/SMG choice.

[@spasjt]

Which is why I like living in the USA where we are only prejudiced against weapons that are not effective. :)

[@francesco3772]

@@spasjt shut up seppostani you owe us 20 years of intermediate cartridge advancement and a superior 6mm european design

[@edricklawrenceong7776]

In warfare, you don't want to be armed with the most powerful weapon; you'd want the weapon that has just enough firepower that can kill the most number of enemies in the shortest time possible.

[@TheMegaPingasMobile]

And the most powerful weapon will kill the most in the shortest time. So nukes.

[@roaringlaughter3812]

Nukes cluster bombs cruise missiles railguns(yes they are working on those) lasers (yes we have those too)

[@CruelestChris]

@@TheMegaPingasMobile Um, no. You want a weapon where you can apply an appropriate amount of power to solve any problem you may have. Nukes are note to have certain practicality issues when used for, say, sentry duty.

[@Cronocke]

The reason you don’t whip out cluster bombs and nukes for every fight is the same reason you don’t whip out a lumber axe for brain surgery. You need the right tool for the job. 😉

[@hazydoom69]

@@Cronocke why do you have a lumber axe in a surgery room

[@NotChukkov]

The thing about staff weapons is how inconsistent the writers seemed to make them. It could blow giant chunks in walls and thick metal doors, but other times even on an un-armoured target the blast would be absorbed by the flesh and just leave a scorch mark or superficial wound when it should be blowing entire limbs off. Presumably this was because if it was actually consistent and did that then the show would have to increase its rating and things would be a lot darker having people's limbs being blown off every episode. In this clip the staff weapon made no notable hole in the wood even though the same staff weapons are used to blow holes in the bunker doors of the SGC in other episodes, they wanted to make the difference between the weapons seem stark just to drive the point home in this scene

[@tanja8930]

And still the P-90 would be the superior choice.

[@Farzlepot]

The P90 is great and all, but can I just say how consistently awesome the staff weapon's special effects were during SG1. From the sound effect to the impact, and the glowing embers afterwards, it was just *neat*.

[@mfree80286]

I can just imagine... O'Neill: "Alright, a little warfighting demonstration." (keys up the radio mic) "Send it" Nothing happens for almost a minute, then a pumpkin on the downrange explodes at almost exactly the same time as a 'TKpheeeeew' sound arrives. Moments later there is a faint crack from the hills. O'Neill: We have two men with a different and even more "primitive" one of our weapons on one of the surrounding hills, about 2000 yards away. Bonus points if you can find the hill. Their guidance is passive optical, there is no energy signature, they are ghosts in the wind until impact. We can pick someone's nose with a .338 lapua bullet from half a mile away, and they'd never know it was coming for them.

[@joshuabrown7815]

Inb4 they call in a danger close fire mission and fucking obliterate the fucking forest

[@weldonwin]

@@joshuabrown7815 SG-1 or the Jaffa?

[@mickys8065]

Just imagine if Stargate had devoted more to space ships. IE something like a naval destroyer converted for space. Jack goes on the radio and tells them to fire, moments later the entire range explodes. "And that is a high grade rail gun, it can shoot you from 220 miles away. You will never see it. You will most likely never get to scan it thanks to those cloaking thingies. You will get to feel it."

[@ErokCherokee]

@@mickys8065 they get there

[@spartan078ben]

I would have loved to see a Jafa's reaction to an A-10. "your weapons are primative" A-10 goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT

[@scionoffire2904]

Our weapons are primitive? True but they’re definitely much more violent.

[@fifthcolumn388]

Whenever I watch Star Wars I’m always thinking about how there’s no way a lightsaber could be used to effectively stop bullets from an automatic lead slinger. Lightsaber might be from a more civilized age, but war doesn’t need weapons that are civilized.

[@dorkandproudofit]

​@@fifthcolumn388 That's part of the (admittedly evil) brilliance of Darth Sidious/Palpatine's plan. Like Mace Windu said, the Jedi are PEACEKEEPERS, not soldiers. Sidious knew full well that fact, and so created a situation where the Jedi were forced to lead a war they were unequipped and untrained to fight, whittling down their numbers slowly but surely. Then Order 66 comes around and they get on the receiving end of the soldiers they were leading, and find out fast that even someone with nanosecond reflexes and beyond superhuman speed (in-universe, canonically, though the LA movies didn't display this much for practicality reasons) can only do so much when faced with an onslaught of rapid gunfire from multiple military-trained assailants with military-grade weaponry. There's a reason only guys like Yoda and Kenobi survived--unless you're a god-tier fighter or hit first, the moment they start shooting it's pretty much over.

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

Goa'uld took a while to get their shit in one sock and develop anything resembling a useful weapon based on their advanced technology.

[@xptaco2298]

@@fifthcolumn388 right. The lightsaber wouldn't stop the bullet all it would do would make it into molten metal

[@MLaak86]

Boring but practical

[@michaelandreipalon359]

To video gamers, it was Counter-Strike 1.6 or Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. To anime/manga viewers and readers, it was probably Gunslinger Girl. To live action television, it was Stargate SG-1. Funnily enough, though the gun is thought to have been the organization's mainstay since the beginning, it was actually first introduced in Season 4 by way of supplanting the MP5 (the other notable SMG in Counter-Strike that is not the Uzi).

[@KingOfMadCows]

Technically, the Goa'uld's weapons of war are starships that can glass planets from orbit, genetically engineered viruses that can wipe out a planet in weeks, and microscopic naquadah enhanced explosives designed to detonate the Stargate and render a planet uninhabitable. SG-1 got incredibly lucky against the Goa'uld and if the Asgard hadn't bluffed earth into the peace treaty with the Goa'uld, the system lords would have sent a fleet of ships to blast earth into smoldering ruins.

[@Tletna]

That was true until they found the defense system in the Antarctic that ended up giving the Earth a fighting chance of self defense (sort of). And before you say that's ancient tech, not modern humans: the goauld are using ancient tech as well.

[@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide]

phew... true fan!

[@veterayt6800]

humans: we have nukes that can flatten a city

[@Definitelylnterested]

No. Firstly, as advanced as their tech was, most of Goa'uld's were little more than glorified warlords at this point. There was huge thing about human child of two of them having all the knowledge. It indicates that most of them actually don't have access to advanced knowledge, let alone understand just what exactly their devices do. Secondly, SG teams were made from the best Humanity had to offer at this point, men and women who spent all their lives on War, doing it out of sense of Duty, not because someone held them the at gun-point; it always produces better result for your people to give it all willingly. Thirdly, Stargate system was bottleneck for all would-be-invaders, and System Lords didn't knew cosmic coordinates 0f Earth until later in show, and by then, we had Asgard to help, and later Ancient Defence Post online. Fourthly, they were different from almost all other societes of Milky Way at this point. No one invaded us, no one forbid writing, learning. We were our own worst enemy. Goa'uld's could give us real point of unity in real life xD. Additionally, O'Neill is just about one of most dangerous humans in entire Galaxy at this point. He spent his whole life doing Black Ops operations, things that give normal people nightmares, just to keep us safe(at least, that is theory). When he talks about one weapon made to terrorize your enemy, and the other made to KILL your enemy, he damn well knows what is he talking about :P

[@johngoldwood6547]

@@Definitelylnterested the only true threat Goa'uld wise was Ba'al and Anubis, even then Ba'al was too egotistical to be taken seriously. now the Replicators.....they were a considerate threat. then the Ori arrived.

[@jonathanleon4966]

This is one of the reasons why the bolter from warhammer 40k is my fave sci-fi weapon because even though it is absolutely insane it is not too far fetched to imagine that thousands of years into a future someone will be able to convert something like a mark 19 40m launcher into an assault rifle,pistol, big ass chain gun etc

[@andrewmattox1233]

Look up the gyro-jet. It pretty much already is a bolter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5uTgXiro6uIiqs

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

Bolter doesn't even fire 40mm

[@austinslaughter319]

Buddy, the Bolter doesn't even fire nades, it fires rockets, and there's a huge difference. If it fired 40 Mike Mikes, we'd have already made it, and in a way we did, the m28, rotary. The closest thing we have to the Bolter is the GyroJet pistol. Low yield, low velocity, low penetration, out of a heavy recoiling gun, with low accuracy, that fires more clumsily than even the worst offenders of bad firearms. Your bolter bullshit will never be a reality. We will have fuckin laser beams before rocket bullets are a thing. Even in a fantasy setting, like borderlands, rocket bullets suck.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@austinslaughter319 Bolter rounds are two stage, not gyrojet ammo.

[@afriendlycadian9857]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 if I remember correctly a standard bolter round is at times been said to have been like a 75 caliber round that has a delayed detonation at other times its been said to be higher than that

[@Chuck-PK]

We Humans are really good at killing stuff... like REALLY REALLY GOOD. Wanna see?

[@anelbegic2780]

Thats how we survived, and now domimate, as a spicies. Kindsness and compassion dont deter preditors or put food on the table, being the most ruthless survivor does. Times havent really changed eother but the focus has shifted business and social standing.

[@joshuarubenstein2298]

History is just humanity finding better ways to kill eachother.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

@@anelbegic2780 Take away our creature comforts and see the end result

[@codeinecowboy8607]

It’s about the only thing we’re good at, can’t build a civilization or government worth a fuck

[@RuiLuz]

Before creation there was destruction, unfortunately we are better at destroying than creating, lol.

[@risingwind8943]

"And you know who your are." The way he said this was perfection.

[@zooeyhall]

Why is it that all the "alien planets" in SG1 look a lot like the country north of Vancouver BC?

[@TheIlidius]

+zooeyhall I wonder xD And why LotR places look like fcking New Zeland?

[@ThePhotoglyph]

+zooeyhall Shhh!!

[@Zamolxes77]

+zooeyhall Because it was filmed in Vancouver lol ? You don't expect the film crew to go to other planets using a Stargate , do you?

[@flow-2606]

+zooeyhall maybe because it got filmed in vancouver ?! pretty obvious dude but i like it. would cost much money to go far away just to film this...

[@marcusdudley7235]

+zooeyhall Well they would film it on an alien planet if they could I'm sure. It's just that, it's kinda tricky.

[@HerZeL3iDza]

Can we talk about the fact that a scifi TV show such as Stargate (this specific season premiered in 2001) actually showed actors with trigger discipline? Seeing that was extremely rare at the time.

[@JFrazer4303]

And then he pointed his muzzle at her head.

[@sonofthebearking3335]

*Trigger discipline

[@jallen1425]

Trigger discipline yes but no muzzle discipline and they fired a weapon with two people down range.

[@rotten-Z]

The major weakness of jaffa's weapon is a bad design and low ergonomy

[@TalesOfWar]

There are some much shorter, easier to use staff weapons shown in the last few seasons of SG1. They look like carbines in size relative to the full size things. They're used quite heavily in close combat.

[@stensoft]

They are weapons to quell rebellions, not for guerrilla warfare. It's like comparing a shotgun to an assault rifle, each is for a different purpose.

[@MrWayne1701]

Plus, firing it would give your position away, and pinpoint you for a hail of return P90 fire...

[@Smoked786]

Plus, the staff weapon has nearly unlimited ammunition. I wonder why they didnt compared it with a assault rifle. The staff weapon was desinged as a 60 meters effective weapon that also used as melee weapon and as torch. The plasma bursts should do more damage to the log in compare. There also exists a modifed short staff weapon called the sodan staff weapon. Well i must admit the design is outdated. The kull warriors got a similar weapon that fitted a forearm and fired much faster.

[@TalesOfWar]

Gobi Subramaniam They don't actually have unlimited ammo. They use liquid Naquadah that is very much finite, it's just very long lasting.

[@WallyBChamp]

One of the things I loved about this show was the action scenes. They were a soundtrack onto their own. Staff blast and guns popping off was like music

[@waraidako]

Dudes in giant metal snake masks running across a desert planet, sky filled with flying pyramids, shooting plasma bolts out of some crazy staff looks pretty sick though. You have to consider the aesthetic factor. It has to look cool when you're kicking ass.

[@GeorgeMonet]

But for all that the energy discharge didn't seem that powerful. Overengineered and underdelivered.

[@IronSnake98]

are you saying the p90 is not a cool weapon?

[@gr33nspan]

I love how O'Neill just drops the staff on the ground like forget your trash weapons.

[@TerraExodus]

I love Sam's smile after the single shot.

[@shadeofsound23]

The Jaffa taking the marksman shot really shows a very good technique for shooting a staff weapon at a shooting range. Like, excellent form. It'd get you killed in any appreciable combat scenario.