I Priced Every SERIALIZED LotR Magic the Gathering Card

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@mrechannel2023 Ай бұрын

Rudy losing his mind and Rudy being right are not mutually exclusive.

@carterhalo255 Ай бұрын

Couldn’t of put it better myself

@MTGAttitude Ай бұрын

Truth

@AR-Race Ай бұрын

Taking advice from Rudy is like taking advice from a car salesman. He definitely knows what he’s taking about, but he’s certainly got a vested interest in getting you to buy something.

@MTG_CMG Ай бұрын

The One Ring 001/100 was pulled from my LGS in New Jersey!

@1977NOBODY Ай бұрын

Rudy is a madman…..But you gotta respect how he hustled his way up to where he is🙂👍🏻Sometimes I think he inhales too much mold in the basement 😂He’s been right a lot of times so I wouldn’t be surprised if it came to be

@jimnpen8451 Ай бұрын

I know him personally he's a pretty successful guy. Before he ever got into magic he was a financial advisor and a damn good one.

@ExploreMore704 Ай бұрын

It's not the mold in the basement. It's the mold in the taco cheese 😂

@TheSushiandme Ай бұрын

Rudy is pumping

@jet53220 Ай бұрын

I’m so happy to have experienced that nine months or so that we were able to collect LOTR and I got so many amazing hits. Sadly, it looks like that time is long gone. No way to find them in retail and whatever remains is blocked behind a massive paywall.

@chiefenumclaw7960 Ай бұрын

Those eBay sales are people moving boxes from their left hand to their right. The first rule of price obfuscation is to muddy the waters around available supply. Nothing is real, caveat emptor.

@TheGrimKeeper Ай бұрын

I did the math. The chances of pulling a serialized card. .02% is 1/5000 packs or 1/416 collector boxes.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@TheGrimKeeper holy smokes

@sattoriemei3210 Ай бұрын

So what your saying is... Rudy's 300 boxes may not even contain 1 serialized card in them.

@sattoriemei3210 Ай бұрын

Actually nvm... most likely Rudy's 300 boxes does not contain a serialized card because he already pulled the serialized Gandalf for one of his patrons that purchased a case from him last year.

@barrywade3774 Ай бұрын

Is 0.02% pull chance for “a” serialized OR “any” serialized card? Because if it is for “a” and there are 20 different serialized cards in the set then it would go to around 0.4% chance to pull one if you don’t care which.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@barrywade3774 .02 odds to pull any one serialized card according to Wizards product preview

@johntaylor6851 Ай бұрын

Being that Hasbro is being sued for lying about how much sealed product they're sitting on, I wouldn't hold my breath

@markusbetts Ай бұрын

That’s mostly about toy inventory not Magic

@NateBullock-ow6on Ай бұрын

@@markusbettswrong buddy

@7Alberto7 Ай бұрын

Yup Rudy is 100% right Joey these video are amazing,incredible work incredible info i love it I'm happy i have 1 box,just for the history! Thanks!

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@7Alberto7 thanks

@gamerfans1476 Ай бұрын

I appreciate these pricing videos appeases my ocd so very much. As for the Rudy thing, he’s mad yes, however, he was right about the boxes going past 1000. As for lord of the rings going up in value, I’m not surprised, as it’s a great set, and was underprinted, the holiday edition at least.

@MichaelSuperbacker Ай бұрын

I couldn’t afford them when they were $300 😢

@TheeKrix Ай бұрын

It is absolutely ridiculous that these modern MTG cards are going for more than vintage MTG cards like the power 9 or dual lands. People are absolutely brainwashed by gimmicks and FOMO!

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@TheeKrix FOMO is worth examining in this tale...

@younited8959 Ай бұрын

Dumb people with dumb money lol

@andrewhan3811 Ай бұрын

These people are not MTG players. They are just collectors with some big money so they don't care about vintage, they care about the brand of the Universes Beyond and some special flavour like serialized.

@GucciGengar. Ай бұрын

As an old player who has never owned vintage but has spent big money on cavern of souls LOTR foils for a standard elf deck. Why would I want vintage? 400 for one land in my casual edh deck is lame. I can get foil fetches and galaxy shocks for less.

@hanedizzle89 Ай бұрын

Id be really interested on your logic here? WHY exactly is it ridiculous?

@kirkgrant8121 Ай бұрын

If I'm guessing, it is that Rudy bought as much as he could, sold very little...and is pumping the market to increase his ability to leverage the "value" of his supply to get loans moving forward. As for me, I did buy a bunch of the poster cards when they were initially released and were low in price. With between 1 to 3 posters/box it seemed like opening a full six boxes still did not guarantee a full set of the poster cards. I think the key Commanders will always have a high draw (Sauron, Gandalf, Aragorn, Saruman, Tom B, Witch King) and think that in the long-run (7+ years from now) the best investment to sell at a later time is in any of the key cards that people want to use/play/own. So that leaves the question...what are the top 3 Commanders people want to use to play?

@Slavnana Ай бұрын

And here we are nearing $2000 "like he predicted" unbelievable.. Thank you for this video

@AlaskaTCG Ай бұрын

Thanks for making this!

@lifestyle936 Ай бұрын

He also said surging sparks would be 300 and I just bought some for 16.

@jamesvoyce1734 Ай бұрын

I'd say by the end of the decade it will probably be a $5,000 Booster Box and 30,000 to 35,000 small case of 6

@deltron9322 Ай бұрын

They only took a best offer if there’s a line through the price. The price in green is what they actually sold for

@MTGAttitude Ай бұрын

I watched this from front to back...I really didnt know about these

@PawzBrownMTG Ай бұрын

And now you know. Where's the kids special star 🌟 shooting across our screen 😮

@markusbetts Ай бұрын

Sup MTG attitude!

@MTGAttitude Ай бұрын

@markusbetts Sup Mark

@sebastianlesny2230 Ай бұрын

Thank you for doing all the work i didnt want to do and prove my theory correct. You da boss man!

@correaaeroc.1697 Ай бұрын

22:47 Barrow-Downs / Bojuka Bog Isengard, Saruman's Fortress / Boseiju, Who Shelters All

@roverboy006 Ай бұрын

They will do a Hobbit themed version of this run. It will have reprints of One Ring, etc. It will have new cards like Thorin's company and Smaug. If WotC is smart then they would do Holiday edition the same way. If they release it in the current bull market then God help us.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@roverboy006 💯

@joem3009 Ай бұрын

I recall someone telling me there was a site to track listed/sold listings of serialized MTG cards… is that really a thing? Is there an active site monitoring this? I imagine they go up as people pull the last ones of it.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@joem3009 I heard about that to but haven't come across it yet. If you hear anything new, lemme know

@MTG_CMG Ай бұрын

Gandalf, the White 001/100 was pulled on MTG North. It was awesome to see!

@markusbetts Ай бұрын

legendary pull

@michaelervin893 Ай бұрын

Thanks for putting in the work, brother. Pretty insane what the EV is on thaese boxes even without serialized cards. I opened one and got sooo much. The top hit being a Sauron The Dark Lord poster foil (probably $300 easy), but i got at least 10 cards worth $20+. Kinda crazy, even tho i bought at release for $300. So much value in these, honestly!

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@michaelervin893 Nice

@tartuffethespry Ай бұрын

I think he's right. Sealed boxes continue to go down, while MTG continues to bring in more collectors from sports. Plus through in the fact that box breakers drive up the prices even more since they can sell them fractionally for profit

@Kaldrax Ай бұрын

Makes me wonder if my 6 collector boxes of Innistrad Remastered are enough 😂 Europe has the LotR holiday collector boxes for 1200€ currently as well…crazy

@dudeopeningthings Ай бұрын

Folks! Skadoosh

@markusbetts Ай бұрын

This is some dark wizardry

@numb1gxfan Ай бұрын

I think the 10s deserve a high price, but these prices are just silly. It is FOMO, people are hoping on making $10-$20k etc. Maybe in 10 years, but to me there is a huge difference in making rare cards and a card being rare on it's own. If I had these I would sell them all day and use that money for other things. You can slap $20,000 on a listing, doesn't mean people are going to pay that. Plus when you get into that expensive buyer territory, it's usually 1% or less buyers. I bet you these $10k+ listings get bombarded with lowball offers in hopes the seller accepts. There just isn't that many people who have $20k to burn. Yes having a card worth $20k is nice, you could be sitting on it for months though. These people fishing for a deal will keep your listing on tab and wait. Patience wins.

@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 Ай бұрын

have you checkd his take of RUDI... on Lorcana enchanted? how about tournament enchanted? Also : MTG Universe beyond the Doctor who serialized cards ? those too could maybe rise a little

@Jmtl9191 Ай бұрын

For the One Ring, It was $18,500 USD $, and agreed ... it was sold under-valued. That black label OR is incredibly sexy. Should sell around $40-50k as long as they don't reproduce LOTR with reprints.

@GucciGengar. Ай бұрын

BGS benefits from putting black labels on high end cards. They 110% were lenient with the grading of these.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

Good point. Those up-charges are not cheap

@sattoriemei3210 Ай бұрын

On top of the CEO doing some laundry... not surprised at all.

@fourcolorinvestments8378 Ай бұрын

Or it is simply the result of a higher quality manufacturing process and cards being immediately sleeved and graded once removed from a pack. If leniency was a thing with BGS then the pop reports for 90s MTG would have far more 10s than they currently do.

@GucciGengar. Ай бұрын

@@fourcolorinvestments8378 If you look at the sports card market this is more common. BGS graded a rookie victor wambanyana card very generously because it was a 1/1. Most cards have some physical flaws or printing errors even coming fresh out of the pack.

@gsquared.collectibles8392 Ай бұрын

You have zero idea of what you are talking about.

@MSDGAMEZ Ай бұрын

The grading just adds so much inflated cost

@jasonatr0n Ай бұрын

Rudy is right more then he is wrong

@MSDGAMEZ Ай бұрын

Everything's about money now.I just love the card game

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

Within ten years we will have one drop, 3/3, First Strike, Trample, looting Dinosaur Mages..

@lomalindasmogcheck1 Ай бұрын

Mtg is under no modern age RL commitment; they are creating future reprint equity right now. Investors & faux'vestors are buying from each other at this point. The common players that haven't left the game won't carry this product OR they would simply proxy it. Overprinting now comes in the form of Overproducts. Wallet fatigue will hit harder when wotc increases prices.

@Lock2002ful Ай бұрын

Uhhh. Provocative. ^^ Wonder if I should sell my one sealed english coll box. 🤔 One thing I have to say though, I also don’t understand the appeal of serialized cards unless it has some unique art. If it’s just the same with a number, to me it would even be worth less because I like my cards with the least logos and numbers and what not as possible. Final edit hopefully: That you for doing this indepth video. Tales a lot of time to do this. Appreciate it.

@alejandroguerrieri2924 Ай бұрын

Black labels are a scam. Some bgs 9, basic has been submitted again and got black label lol. So you are paying a huge premium just because the grader "was in a good mood that day" basically

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

Price they sell for sure ain't

@alejandroguerrieri2924 Ай бұрын

Price ? That doesnt change the reality the grade is fake...and that is my point here. Probly buyers didnt even know about this issue.

@uv_khamaileon Ай бұрын

I saw an becket black label 10 poster card ONE RING 85k at eternal weekend. It didn't sell

@kevinhaen2763 Ай бұрын

Just like MoxMan proved, Rudy discussing this to try to manipulate the price upward - wonder how much he has invested? Didn't work for MetaZoo or F&B, did it.

@douglasgray2620 Ай бұрын

Great content! Well done joey!

@Fake_Name_MTG Ай бұрын

I think the folks selling these are trolling for whales. If my lover is an O.F. star, I'd be asking for these for Christmas.🎣

@valonthor2071 Ай бұрын

That what you are not familiar with seems to be G&G grading......its name was cardmarket grading before....greetz

@OwynDahn-ps4wr Ай бұрын

I saw a Gemstone Caverns that looks beautiful. Not worth the risk...

@TheQuintus85 Ай бұрын

Just the special edition release was already a bit scumbag thing to people who bought the normal collector packs for €50ea for a bit of cardboard i think ita fair that you asume then that they dont come out with more releases like that. This is something special i toss €1550 over the counter for half a feet pile of cards

@jxhook Ай бұрын

Maybe I'm crazy, but I would never pay that kind of money for this stuff. I would much rather but a playset of dual lands.

@valonthor2071 Ай бұрын

Yeah would love to open one....but i would never buy it

@gsquared.collectibles8392 Ай бұрын

That would be the difference between a player and a collector

@sergeiyamagoro431 Ай бұрын

So the only appeal is playing lottery hoping to pull the serialized cards in these?

@sattoriemei3210 Ай бұрын

Do not underestimate the power of the gambling degenerate... just look at Pokemon.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

@@sergeiyamagoro431 That's about it

@superretrogamerbros.8492 Ай бұрын

I sold my serialized Henneth Annun for like $750. I regret it now lol

@jostkohler-kae2997 Ай бұрын

I think boxes will go up to 1 k next year.

@AlaskaTCG Ай бұрын

That $1100 booster case has to be fake.

@geraldpowell4403 Ай бұрын

So if magic follows the same pattern as sports cards, which they have constantly for the whole life of the game, serialized cards will become close to worthless unless they are a low number chase cards. On average, there are four to eight serialized cards to an average box of sports cards. That is also on cards that will never be reprinted, and magic now is constantly reprinting cards. The lord of the rings cards may be stable as a collectible as long as they are never reprinted, I have a feeling that they may recycle universes in the future as they are not a reserved list cards. The licenses are the only thing to prevent easy reprinting. Cards should never be reprinted once they are serialized as that completely destroys their rarity. We do not need in every set the top card be serialized. I would suggest cards be retired with serialized numbers, and first-time chase cards should be the only serialized cards. These boxes are expensive as long as all those cards are never reprinted.

@Slavador2393 Ай бұрын

Im tired, it's late, so I'll just say thanks Joey, i leave this comment for the algorithm gods in hopes you get more views.

@gsquared.collectibles8392 Ай бұрын

The joy of people in the comments not understanding the difference between players and collectors. They are not mutually exclusive. A collector will enjoy their one singular Beta Underground Sea. They don't give a crap about buying a play set. A player will not typically fathom paying $3K for a single card. This was evident every time a game breaking card was introduced. The players that cried about Ragavan were upset it was nearly $400 for a playset. Blamed MTG as "pay to play". Lets not forget about the wave of butthurt from players crying over that pro player taking the Foil Tarmogoyf over the playable card for his deck. "Average MTG Players" were not the target audience for serialized cards, COLLECTORS were. If players were the target, it wasn't the average player. It was the player whose Legacy deck used only Guru Basic Lands, Judge Foil Fetch Lands, Japanese Foil Innistrad Delver of Secrets, Judge Foil Lightning Bolts, Judge Arena Foil Counterspells, Japanese Foil Mercadian Masques Brainstorms, signed Beta Dual Lands, and a playset of Artist Altered and signed Foil Japanese Jace the Mind Sculptor from Worldwake. Get over yourselves. Play the game you want to play with the cards you want to play with. Go jump on to r/bootlegmtg and buy yourself a set of BL or Usea's proxies for $29.99 shipped from china

@markusbetts Ай бұрын

God it feels good owning 21 of these serials

@CopperCooper420 Ай бұрын

Artificial scarcity and catering to rich whales is why I'm done with MTG. No one talks about the game or playable cards. Just worthless "rare" chase cards that literally took less than a penny to print. Hard pass.

@t.yop9 Ай бұрын

Have you ever actually tried to sell these serialized cards? LOTR is probably the best you can do in terms of serial cards but for most other sets if you actually want to sell you'd have to sell at 50% of 'market' price which is completely made up in the first place. There's not a huge market on these cards.

@JoeyMossBBG Ай бұрын

Nope

@markusbetts Ай бұрын

Ironically given the collector context it depends heavily on the playability of the card. They serialized a bunch of unplayable stuff and it’s super hard to get “market” price on that junk

@muuleman1984 Ай бұрын

Are people buying at these prices? Seems just like people are listing high

@Fake_Name_MTG Ай бұрын

The more you know...

@Fake_Name_MTG Ай бұрын

Joey, your Shinka is out again.

@t.yop9 Ай бұрын

2 months ago he said Assassin's Creed would be $600 a box due to the limited supply. He's a grifter, he says stuff to sell Patreon and sealed product. Of course he's going to be right once in a while because no one can predict the future. But listening to him is no different than playing the lottery. Whether you win or lose has nothing to do with his predictions.

@andrewmyers1358 Ай бұрын

Rudy is buying them all

@JarodAlden Ай бұрын

Keep your Shinka to yourself please.

@carterhalo255 Ай бұрын

10:15 I’m pretty sure that’s Rudy’s grading company

@TheGrimKeeper Ай бұрын

that some other company, not rudy’s.

@TheAdead05 Ай бұрын

Rudy's grading company says "PCG" on the top left and each condition grade is outlined in a half circle across a line

@valonthor2071 Ай бұрын

I think its G&G grading which was named cardmarket grading before

@valonthor2071 Ай бұрын

G&G

@MrRockguy84 Ай бұрын

sometimes he (Rudy) makes claims like this himself as a vain attempt to try & manipulate the market himself so can profit from the desired outcome, has done this for years

@sattoriemei3210 Ай бұрын

If these are truly rare and if his 300 sealed boxes are truly the largest position, he could just be buying what's out there in the market and drive the price up.