I put 11 Speed Deore on a Retro Mountain Bike.

[@mattcardarelli]

“I hope this isn’t coming off as one of those dream builds. “ You’re pure gold brother

[@kossmanneault683]

that ratio on a 26" wheel will climb a tree. Derailleur is hanging mighty low for trails, but definitely enticing for 26mtb bike packing

[@thebr0wnhornet]

Going through that now trying to do 1x on a 26” mtb. After adding a wolf tooth type derailleur extension the bottom pulley is an inch from the rim. Might go back to the 32t cassette and run 2x

[@nikolaibohachevsky2301]

Yeah that seems overkill with the lower ratio you get from a smaller 26 wheel; could easily get away with a 34 tooth chain ring up front. But I dont like the long derailleur cage either. What’s wrong with a 9spd wide range cassette and shorter derailleur cage. Like the MicroShift Advent setup…love that drive train.

[@thebr0wnhornet]

@RollinRat I mean my setup works just might rip the derailleur on a rock someday. 36t up front 12-46 micro shift acolyte 8 spd, using the Deore derailleur and shifter that were on the bike. $30 cassette, $6 for the wolf tooth, $20 for a cheap narrow wide

[@martinmalloy5997]

Speaking as a bike mechanic from the 90's, I didn't expect the freehub to fit, well done 😁

[@-RM-]

Same here. Thought he'd need to re-dish.

[@jazzper_nl]

I'm still in shock!

[@morlamweb]

@@-RM- I had to, when I upgraded the freehub on my old GT Timberline to 9-speed gearing.

[@jonathancairns9944]

Eric, much love, but, please don't disrespect Shimano... They DEFINITELY stand for reasonably priced bikes and their mid grade stuff is bullet proof for a lot less than SRAM. NOW, don't get me wrong, SRAM makes fabulous stuff, but I've never been willing to throw the extra money at it, when Shimano does it SO WELL for the price.

[@pratikpramanik7782]

Id argue that mid grade is not reasonable priced these days

[@jonathancairns9944]

@@pratikpramanik7782 SARS-CoV-2 has definitely changed the game, but I think SRAM has faced the same challenges that Shimano has... But, touche. I was totally thinking pre-pandemic, because I've been riding bikes since 1985.

[@maddoxmcpherson3731]

I agree shimano makes some really good stuff however they also make some pretty sub par components as well. The new 12 speed road groupo’s are so finicky. If your hanger is not dead straight it won’t shift for shit. Also any of there cable actuated road shifter chew thru the cables way to fast. This is just from my experienced being a full time mechanic at a bike show though. And I have not seen this personally but there cranks delaminating seems far to common and they haven’t done shit about any of those problems for many years.

[@jonathancairns9944]

@@maddoxmcpherson3731 I totally agree with you about Shimano's top tier, the cranks are shoddy, unreliable, epoxy nonsense, but Tiagra cannot be disrespected, nor Deore. Fucking workhorses. Only weight weenies, with big budgets, suffer the consequence and they can have them.

[@jonathancairns9944]

Old Deore and 9 peed road Shimano are SIS, and that makes for simple, cheap, big range 2x setups, because you can mix older Deore with more modern Sora road levers. If you're riding more then 9 speed out back and you have more gear range than my 2003 XTR 3x9, than I ask you... Are you really riding a reasonably priced bike?

[@aliastagami2346]

90s MTB love is overdue. These bikes are so much fun when retrofitted with modern components!

[@CarlosRodriguez-yd5fv]

I have a 90's trek and I want to do this to it. Looking forward to watch your other videos on this bike

[@613.Rooster]

Super Cool stuff. Love to see Spindatt keeping the 26 inch revolution alive!

[@MeNtAlmil]

Deore looks awesome! Thinking about doing this to my 1980s Schwinn but need to find a newer freehub to replace my rear freewheel first.

[@tsalesto]

Methinks a larger chainring will be needed. Gotta love the shiny parts, looking cool.

[@notsogreatmatt]

There's something really satisfying about a well built BB. Took apart a campy BB on a 1970 Raleigh that had been used as a commuter in Oregon. The outside was super grimy but inside was squeaky clean, the grease hadn't even discolored at all. The cups had a threading pattern where the spindle goes through that keeps dirt out.

[@davejack3054]

That corkscrew pattern pumped out all the water and not a seal in sight. Plus the quality of the steel and lapped bearing races was amazing. I wonder what a mechanic would think today if they saw a BB with no seals on it?

[@jeremyabbott2829]

This is the type of video I’ve been waiting for!

[@paulkruglov7280]

Wicked cool how you marry vintage and modern to keep this bike rolling again. What was once old is new again! Spinny, keep up the awesome diversified video content rolling.

[@jamespaxon1888]

I need to go this route on my diamond back, if I ever commit to replacing the trusty 3x7

[@stevesnailfish]

I converted my old 2007 GT Chucker from Acera 3x9 to SRAM NX 1x11 with a 11-42 cassette.....1x systems always look better in my view and less hassle.....I even converted my 2x CX and gravel bikes to 1x systems..... Your channel has been a tad influential these past few years.....I'm still watching it so keep up the good work. A set of decent forks on that old bike after the 1x conversion should look the mutt's nuts !!!

[@zacharyord8618]

Dude I never even though about swapping free hub bodies. Omgggggg I have to go to the shop soon lol.

[@naikiew]

Thank you sir...your video literally saved my bike build in hopes of a transfer from 9 speed to 11 speed. Now i'm hoping the freehub body I ordered does work on my deore xt wheels

[@wafflemeow126]

Which freehub body did you order and did it work??

[@cfloren]

Radness - thank you for posting this! Was just contemplating what it would take to get a modern 1x drivetrain on a mid-'90s Trek I have sitting around here.

[@maxlabarbera5797]

I love it when a plan comes together

[@kultaotsa]

Nice! I can recommend the Shimano XT M8000 series as well, you can find them used for a reasonable price and the rd can be serviced in like 30min. I've swapped multiple bikes with it, the latest being a 26" with a 42 single front (fsa vero) and a 11-46 m8000 in the rear (the cassette can be a cheaper one, you don't need the expensive xt cassette).

[@hujohnny7785]

Great product, easy to clean -worked out great !

[@reklawrs]

I wonder if I can go from 8 to 11spd with an old late '90s XTR hub. I probably have switch out my derailleur (reverse shifting XTR and shifter)? I can always dream....

[@mikekilburn3552]

Another coffee shop keeping us bikers going. Got to love it

[@k4spermlbb]

been following your channel for 2 years and all i can say, this is my favorite build.

[@michaelbyers8931]

So Cool! I am amazed by the 52 tooth.

[@jackwilson8651]

Dear god. The more videos I watch on this channel the more ideas I have and that means the more dollars I convince myself I need to spend. Shocking.

[@leafbranch6]

Great video currently building up a trek 850 antelope so this helps a lot 👍

[@theejoeylee]

I have an old purple/blue fade 830 MountainTrack frame I got for $20 & this IS my dream build !

[@Napaperi]

What bottom bracket and size was used? I have trek 7000, just trying to make sure I order the right size

[@certifiedlawnpros]

dude i subscribed from the intro alone! sweet bikes!

[@samjohns6114]

what store did you end up ordering the groupset from?

[@zdravo4]

Hello, interesting to see this. I have the same setup on my bike which is much modern than yours. What chainline you have there? On my bike I put 4mm spacers on crank to make CL perfect.

[@roydrink]

5:33 “And I thought you were ready to give up “ A common theme of Spindatt videos…

[@shaun89759]

My recent find; 4130 diamondback 26” came with a Mach 5 fork! But the stiffener thing is broke. Jb weld??!! And “cork” it for rigid street use ?? Not sure how, show me?

[@warrenzausa3145]

does the chains rub the tire when its in biggest cog?

[@jamesschwinghamer3163]

Do you need new cranks for this set up or are they just extra touch up???

[@ToeKneeBee725]

Thank you for the #subscriptionthreats, we've been missing them. 🙂👍

[@adammoonface]

So is this 130mm axle spacing?

[@skinheads]

As a Eastern European I find it kinda funny how you say word "OUT" noticed that watching Trailer Park Boys as well. All the best man

[@bosanderspublictheology]

I love upgrading old 26 bikes, so even though I am only 1:34 into it I am loving this video (at least the idea)

[@matthewguenther6925]

Love this. :) Recently swapped a Uni-Hyper (threaded for Uniglide AND Hyperglide) 7 spd freehub body for a 10 spd one (and discovered there were 2 different Shimano freehub styles, regular and "heavy duty" :S, fortunately was able to scrounge the right one). I did have to re-dish the wheel a little so the brakes didn't rub after I adjusted the cones for freehub clearance. Had the same issue you had with bottom bracket too, I'd forgotten that you needed 3 different tools to remove those old school BB's and my 2 pin spanner is lost somewhere in the sands of time. 2 finish nails in a chunk of scrap 1x2 did the trick for me (after I failed with vice grips and needle nose pliers) Modern BB's sure spoil you for ease of install/uninstall.

[@Wannaridebikes]

With the big cassette when in bigger gear will the derailed hang lower and hit. Something.

[@juan24242424]

Great video, love the classic rides

[@thesausage351]

I’m in a similar situation, I have a Cannondale lefty I’m rebuilding as my pimp hardtail bike, but then I have 2 super nice, super clean mid-late 90’s mountain bikes, and I’m going to start building a replica of my first mountain bike, so I’m going to end up with 3 rigid, 10-12 speed mountain bikes, plus I have a GT Avalanche I plan to make into a 26” BMX like yours, but my biggest and most exciting build will be a Klunker I’m planning. Disc brake conversion, maybe sprung front, maybe solid, not sure, some nice steel wheels with a 1 x 12 most likely, balloon tyres, I’m really keen for that!

[@jffgrnlw]

Love the bike and the coffee!

[@oheso]

All options? So pink handlebar tassels and Player cards in the spokes. Got it.

[@Gabesafish]

Can you fit a 32 or 34 tooth chainring on that frame? 30T x12 on a 26” wheel is going to be very limited on top speed.

[@ronnisullivan9794]

What about the axle length?????

[@qin02]

I got a 12sp on a 1994 trek 830shx had to play with the chainline

[@benturner190]

Yo Eric use the white ‘dummy freehub’ to line up your new cassette with the splines on the freehub of the bike an then you can just drop it on in one go

[@TheBRad704]

I was about to post the same thing. I feel like only 0.01% of people know that the white cassette holder is designed to fit into the free hub body for easy installation.

[@WalkerBikes]

Ha!! The needle nose trick, I love it lol I think I'm gonna snap the pliers everytime, but it's never done me wrong....recent got the park tool pin spanner though hahaha

[@Wannaridebikes]

I found out I had them two holes on a bike but not tool so I took my grind wrench that had prongs. It worked.

[@glennpettersson9002]

That's a great hack👍

[@abatecruento667]

I did something similar just yesterday with an old 7sp wheel, on which I transplanted an 8sp free hub, but then the wheel didn't sit in the center and v brakes no likey when that happens. I messed up with the spoke tension and moved the whole wheel sideways. I hope it won't kill me lmao

[@IsmaelChamu]

If you have a steel frame you should cold press the rear to allow more space 135mm +. You wouldn't have to mess with the spoke tension and whatnot lol but Hey! If you alive next week then it all worked fine! Lol

[@Glassrunchannel]

That Deore FC-M5100-1 crankset is supposed to have a 52 mm chainline. That will be about 2mm more than a 3x crankset I believe. Did you experience any issues with the shifting or when backpedalling? Thinking of doing the same (if I can get parts one of these days!) but I am not sure about shifthing, backpedalling issues? Cheers!

[@andi4281]

The derailleur will hit the ground 🥶

[@benhensby8528]

I wasn't a fan of shimano, and then I decided to put that exact drive on a 1996 santa cruz heckler and it's the bomb!!!

[@spongeimperium126]

I got one of those forks. It's a Marzochi XC600 Titanium air fork.

[@craftyukraine]

*Why not the Alfine 11?*

[@insanebmxthomas]

Is that a gold set of odyssey twisted pedals? I have one set laying around lol. they're kind of used though, it wears off quick

[@Spindatt]

Yes it is haha

[@insanebmxthomas]

@@Spindatt that's cool from what i know they're pretty rare. as far as rare goes in bmx. Wish they numbered them like Animal did their stems. Many fellow bmxers transitioning into MTB nowadays huh? myself included. Cool channel dude sweet content! \o/

[@miniac60]

Please, help me understand the gearing on this bike! I started riding with a low gear of 42/28 and my 17 year old legs took me up anything paved (even if I did have to zig zag). Now my 39/32 is tough lol. My GT Mountain bike is geared so low (22/36) granny gear I can barely keep the bike upright unless I'm over 100 cadence. Just plain silly IMHO

[@jackwilson8651]

Is it worth going to 11 speed (on a 1 x) on a 26 inch wheel? Isn’t 10 speed enough in a 1 x scenario?

[@garyonnen7634]

The music sort of push you that way. Great video but I do love a 3 by 7.

[@tar170]

Yeah. These 1 by whatevers are solutions in search of a problem. I'll never give up my 3x7 and 3x8.

[@timfreeman2603]

I bought 2 Treks today (Getting in early for Xmas) and the dealer said there are only 22 of that model coming to Australia this year. Tonnes of frames but no Shimano ‘noisy’ bits thanks to COVID.

[@spacerconrad]

I just swapped a 51t Deore to my #Y2Kona Fire Mountain. I just singled out an XT crank with a Raceface 38t NW ring and it's geared low enough to effectively 'walk' up some pretty steep stuff. While I've gotten comments on the long cage, I've been through some brush and it seems to be tucked in well enough to avoid snagging anything, though I plan more bikepacking than trail riding on this bike anyway.

[@Legitch]

Very jealous. I tried swapping the freehub body on my 7-speed hub but I wasn't so lucky. Mine has some weird interface that's apparently rare so I couldn't find a single one that matches. And I tried at least half a dozen. So I cobbled together a Frankenstein monster of a freehub body from the original and one other, using the bigger 8/9/10-speed shell and I just BARELY managed to screw it together. Still haven't summed up the courage to actually mount it back on the wheel and try it out though.

[@Jonathan-sz9ue]

I have a 1997 GT palomar. Does anyone know if I can convert it to 1 x 10 or 1x11 (what I really want)?

[@psclassy1123]

Nice to see this if you look it up online you can’t find any info ever

[@osmarq3435]

i thought that you had to redish the wheel. So its really that easy on a 90s MTB?

[@spiffyspokes9758]

I only subscribed because I care about the well being of my trail bike, great content as usual 👌

[@suddboy]

Parts cost?

[@danashmore4765]

That looks well nice now with that mahoosive cassette, can't wait to see it with a better fork 👍

[@christianhuber4054]

Sick dude!

[@felixbouchard2354]

I'll take this fork on my trail bike! This will be an upgrade!!

[@RicardoSanchez-lc4ir]

Turning into a good build.

[@MikeyTiger37]

I still really want to convert my Rockhopper to a 1x setup but I'm just not sure what parts I need and if my freehub can take a larger cassette. Would I be better off getting a LBS to do this for me? And this is after watching your Rockhopper videos 😂

[@bikesandbeyond618]

Wanna come down to Illinois and make this swap out on my 2003 Trek 800?

[@GeekonaBike]

A 27.5 front wheel would be interesting.

[@MB-jz3uu]

Did this with an old 2004 mongoose full suspension bike and pretty much put the parts bin special on it. My fiance isn't super big into mountain so I don't want to waste the money to buy her a modern geometry frame. So its pretty much a mullet 69er with a modern rockshox front and rear shock with hydraulic brakes and modern hubs. Thing rides great but I wouldnt want to race on it.

[@davidmcquay1238]

great build like these videoes

[@kevinford2223]

Music is finally getting a little hipper at least the beginnings now 😂 👍🏻

[@monicalopez8634]

I love your channel!. What you do with your bikes is the same thing i do.

[@snakeshiet]

so you didn't have to re-dish the wheel ?

[@fr0xk]

Well, you can install anything as long as the frame supports components

[@colingrover2039]

Keep. The. Marzocchi. It has a removable steerer so "just" pop in a threadless one.

[@seanwelsh2519]

I WANT THAT FORK!!

[@joshuawest5967]

Awesome

[@mitchcoulter9681]

Huge shoutout to Just Us Coffee for getting Eric away from Sram for a moment!

[@Spindatt]

Gettoutaherewiththat!

[@josuezuniga6776]

Looks cool,but why doing it is a good idea?, you'll have less gears,more stressed and thin chain that breaks easily,the derailleur is more exposed so way easier to destroy,more expensive cause parts aren't free 🤷‍♂️🤔

[@kimkrimson]

From 7 to 11 Best title ever You should be sponsored by 7/11 for this :)

[@johndef5075]

Deore is best value groupset made.

[@carlosgomezzzzzzz]

I had a Trek like that one as a kid, it was my first "real" bike

[@luisereno5472]

Watching and subscribing from philippines

[@travischapman6763]

I've always been a shimano fan boy compared to Sram. A little fiddling seems to pay off in dividends with longevity and reliability. BUT, that freaking pinchbolt design, I could do without.

[@travischapman6763]

Anybody have resources to research that freehub body swapping? Seems valuable, but I am completely unfamiliar.

[@jonl8816]

I wish there were some smaller 11 speed cassettes. I don't need a 50 tooth. Even 40 tooth

[@albertoalvarez8366]

An scandinavian fork maybe?

[@Zeben84]

Now i understand why the industry was pushing toward 29" wheels, this derailleur is going to it alot of stuff on the ground :')

[@spade6240]

I run xt 12 speed on a 26 and clearance is fine, I only ever use the 52t on fire road climbs anyway the wrap is really good on the 10t

[@IsmaelChamu]

@@spade6240 what's your front Chainring size? How many teeth do you got on there?

[@alleborgo5481]

51 biggest cog on 26" wheels MTB.... 11 speed rear derailleur reaaaaaally long. On the first obstacle jumping, you'll leave the derailleur's cage on the ground. It's so close on 51....

[@noburt9]

I'd love to see you throw sensah on a bike of yours. I want to see you test it and abuse it

[@YunqueParaforjar]

With quadruple and quintuple custom cranksets, it would be possible to get rid of huge frying pans on the rear hub, especially on the tiny 26" wheel of a retro mtb, because, as Jan Heine wrote, «Now the time has finally come to go beyond three chainrings». A really modern bike with a really modern solution is not a 1x12 drivetrain, but was already presented in 1973 at the Salon de Cycle in Paris by Alex Singer.

[@DoctorSalazar84]

Just so you know! Technically my 1991, 92 or 93 TRek single track 930 with 11 speed XT way cooler📈📊🧾yup!

[@abcdefgh-xf2th]

it definetly deserves a nicer wheelset!