I put a 5 Speed Transmission on my Go Kart and This Happened…

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@DaCycleDawg
@DaCycleDawg Жыл бұрын
As a former IKF (International Kart Federation) racer, engine mechanic in the military and currently 45 years aerospace general machinist & tool and die maker, it warms my heart to see a young guy with mechanical skills and a brain put them to use. Kudos to you young man.
@DesertGeezers
@DesertGeezers 6 ай бұрын
This young guy may just be the next Adrien Newey.
@Rose-yx6jq
@Rose-yx6jq 6 ай бұрын
It sounds like the best worst idea.
@jasonsulzer7055
@jasonsulzer7055 6 ай бұрын
Maybe with a thicker case on the Lil 6 speed,funny, that I've got the same one on my encore mower.
@lindenmcilvena9822
@lindenmcilvena9822 5 ай бұрын
Great ! Does a zx1400 ninja in a small buggy need independent suspension on rear or will it work ok on a swing arm (rear motor)
@Horespower_23
@Horespower_23 5 ай бұрын
You have done everything congratulations 😂
@garyeickmann511
@garyeickmann511 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this video and watched it and I enjoyed it. I am a retired professional fabricator that ran my own fabrication shop for 30 years. I commented to my wife that this kid is quite impressive. It’s nice to see young folks building and designing things like we old guys used to do. Keep it up 👍 you are practicing a dying art.
@richarddonegan4666
@richarddonegan4666 Жыл бұрын
Cool story Sir. I just retired sheet metal fab welder. I'm chilling with my Segway Ninebot Pro go cart! I like electric. The technology is ahead of the laws. And my Segway, I can ride anywhere. Bothers nobody!
@randomdan85
@randomdan85 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@shadow7796
@shadow7796 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy seeing young, innovative people doing their thing. Don't stop, please. You give us old genX guys some hope and some satisfaction, knowing the things we love and understand will live on. Thanks, Bubba.
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I had a Go Kart when I was a kid, in 1965. I started with a Soap Box Derby Cart that my cousin dropped off when he was done with it. It was wooden and had foot steering. Living on a dirt road, it wasn't much fun to push it around, so I took Dad's lawn mower apart and put the frame and everything including the "reel mower blade" under the back end of it. Eventually the "reel" blade was taken off, and as you would expect it only went about 3 mph but I was encouraged by self propulsion. So, I improved it when I found an old Radio Flyer Wheel that the rubber had came off of and used it for a pulley. I drilled holes through the Soap Box Derby Wheel and bolted the Radio Flyer Wagon Wheel to it. I went directly from the engine to the "wheel/ pulley" with a belt using a centrifugal belt clutch on the 3 hp engine. That was a major improvement, it went about 25mph. On my first trip down my street, when I turned the corner the board the engine was "nailed" to broke and the engine fell off and it went tumbling down the street with me by the throttle cable. Then, somebody put a Go Kart frame made out of 1 1/4" water pipe up for sale for $20. I combed the ditches for 2¢ & 5¢ beer & pop bottles, did odd jobs and mowed grass until I could buy it. That one got an 8hp Briggs & Stratton CAST IRON engine with a centrifugal chain clutch. 10 teeth on the clutch and 40 teeth on the axle #35 chain with 4.10 x 3.50 x 12" tires. It went 50mph. I lived on a dirt road, so all of my early Karts had 3 or 4 inches of ground clearance and needed to be able to handle dirt and grass. My last Kart was a low rider with rack & pinion steering. It had an 8hp Aluminum Briggs with a milled head to increase compression ratio, 2 spark plugs running from 2 car coils using a motorcycle battery for ignition. 2 spark plugs made 2 flame fronts acting like advancing ignition timing. Geared 4 to 1 at about 6,000 rpm that Kart went about 55mph. Lots of get up and go, and low center of gravity made it a blast to run. But by then I was moving on to cars. It was a great beginning though and I attribute it to my advancing into automobiles which ultimately landed me at The General Motors Proving Ground in Milford Michigan doing experimental work in advanced engineering. I'm retired now. The last thing I worked on was the Hydrogen Fuel Cell, and I just saw a KZbin video where Mary Barra GM CEO is going to veer away from battery powered EV and go to Hydrogen Fuel Cell powered EV. That's some heady shit right there boy! I hope you can gain something from what I have written here. ben/ michigan
@volbster2
@volbster2 Жыл бұрын
Man this world needs more young innovative young people like you. Don't listen to the looser saying it was a waste of time or you should of... They have no respect and envy your skill. Nice work.
@Will-W
@Will-W 9 ай бұрын
2 things stick out about the failure. 1 use bigger gears, less torque lost on small diameter sprockets, don't go huge but a 15-17 tooth would reduce parasitic power loss at that point. (I'm not a certified engineer, just some random dude that stayed at a holiday in express a couple times). 2nd, Outer shaft support. Run a nose off the outside with a bearing to reduce stress on the cast aluminum housing that failed. (I'm a welder/machinist/tool maker) having a "nose support" like on a coyote motor crank support for running a blower as well as timing chains to keep the crank from snapping off. Your weak point doesn't look to be the gears themselves, but the housing. Reinforce the shaft and housing on next go round. Good luck man! Stuff like this makes me hopeful for the next generation of gear heads.
@PaulBrunhammer
@PaulBrunhammer Ай бұрын
All of the criticism I have read in the comments is just plain unnecessary. This young man is out there doing it. He is not afraid to try something and ultimately he will learn constructive things from this. I am a self taught small engine mechanic and self taught computer tech, this is how I learned, I asked what if questions and dove in head first. Good job man, keep it up!!!
@DannyNeal-g8y
@DannyNeal-g8y Жыл бұрын
Elegant fabrication and attention to details. And an impressive grasp of design flaws. No shame in breaking parts; it's called research and development! Stay after it, young man; you will go far!
@loganpe427
@loganpe427 Жыл бұрын
I'm not surfing through all the comments to find out if anybody mentioned this but _you used 'way way' too much grease_ in that transmission. Stuffing it like that causes pressure to build up inside, enough too blow out and break the housing as you found out. I seriously doubt the input shaft broke because of the tensioner you made, much more likely the pressure build up was the cause. I'm a retired engineer, I've worked with tons of gearboxes like that over 40 years. Just saying not bragging brother, I really love your adventure with the Go Cart 👍😁
@garryb6218
@garryb6218 Жыл бұрын
I'm 67, I like this kid, reminds me of me in 1966, keep going kid, do it, you just might end up an Automotive Engineer, like me. How Cool is that!
@reyalPRON
@reyalPRON 10 ай бұрын
Tip from an old fart. Level out your audio levels so the voice is not low compared to the music. Very good for an old mechanic to see the younger generations keep up what we tinkerers started with back in the days :) So young and already welding and fabricating working prototypes. Impressive sir. I wish you the best in not burning out early, keep your interests alive by having many factors to fiddle with is my absolute best tip to never get anything finished ;) Also helmets are cool, brain damage is not. One impaired driver heading towards you and you are done for sir. Helmet!
@WyFoster
@WyFoster Жыл бұрын
Shifting technique with a sequential is important to the life of the gearbox. You don't need a clutch, you just need to go from a state of load on the transmission to a state of decel. You want to shift inbetween those two where the gearbox has no load on it. For instance, hard on the throttle, light tug of the shift lever, quick lift of the throttle and it'll drop into the next gear. For a down shift, gentle press forward and tap the throttle. It'll fall into the lower gear.
@realblakrawb
@realblakrawb Жыл бұрын
In other words, lash and unlash the dogs. Cars will use a strain gauge on the shifter to kill ignition to unload the box. A momentary kill switch on the shifter could be put to use if pedaling it doesn't.
@peterlopez9403
@peterlopez9403 7 ай бұрын
Nice work
@anthonyf8113
@anthonyf8113 7 ай бұрын
Could get rid of the clutch and do two pulleys with a loose belt and a third one on a spring loaded arm.
@steven3381
@steven3381 7 ай бұрын
Better yet delete front tire
@livergen
@livergen Жыл бұрын
I'm 68 years old and this is exactly what we were doing back in the day. Actually I still have scars on my left foot from riding my mini bike in the field and getting it underneath a chain-link fence because I was going to fast and didn't quite make the turn. I dragged it for a pretty good distance before I could shut my mini bike down, Of course my mom freaked out from my ripped up foot, oh well, She took me to the hospital which was nice of her LOL.... guys, you're living the dream and you're going to be okay, I couldn't even begin to guess how many people out here are so absolutely proud of you guys.
@nathanlambert3894
@nathanlambert3894 10 ай бұрын
I'm with the last guy. Too many young people with their eyes glued to a screen these days. This thing you do with tools and knowledge....That's cool. Keep up the good work. People notice.👌
@alaincharron8752
@alaincharron8752 Жыл бұрын
That young man has my respect because he is making something constructive of his life. Thumbs up man!
@timhenry4265
@timhenry4265 Жыл бұрын
Young man, This old man is now smiling thanks to you. Did the same when I was your age. Keep developing your fabrication skills, which are fantastic. Stay humble and honest. You just learned that a transmission designed for a lawn mower is not appropriate for your inted use. Press on. Use your imagination and you will succeed in life. Be careful on the road, there are others using it who don't have your driving skills. Have a blessed day my friend.
@bar261
@bar261 Жыл бұрын
You my young fabricator, are headed for greatness. Keeping custom builds alive with dudes like you is a good thing. Most kids your age are afraid of grease under the nails. You have a great mind. Bet it runs in the family.
@professionalmike4189
@professionalmike4189 Жыл бұрын
I used the same gear box in my lawnmower racing days. You need to open it up and remove the grease and close it up with RTV around the edges and put gear lube in it. You can get it in there after removing the neutral safety switch on the top of the case. The grease flings off of the gears when you run it at such high RPMs and you will burn up the trans pretty damn quick with the grease and not the gear lube. PS a lil will leak out of the 4 brass bushings, but there's not much you can do about it.
@JRLittleArt
@JRLittleArt Жыл бұрын
Impressive young man. Great to see another generation has the itch to improve what they have.
@robepley2709
@robepley2709 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is, I am damned right impressed. This is what we as young teens did when I was growing up 45-50 years ago. Now 63, It is so refreshing to see a young man living life clean and not being tied to an electronic screen of some sorts. Kudo's young man... you have the whole world in the palms of your hands.
@doctormcboy5009
@doctormcboy5009 Жыл бұрын
word
@JacknifeCreations
@JacknifeCreations 9 ай бұрын
Holy shit I knew this was doomed from the start. first off, That's a Peerless 700 series transmission from a Lawn Mower, which is a solid transmission when used correctly, they were VERY common in professional Lawn Mower Racing, and can hold a lot of horsepower, however there is a long list of things this guy has done wrong. 1: When overspeeding the transmission as much as he did, he should have used a thinner grease or oil as that thick grease will simply sling off the gears and no longer coat them at that speed. #2, mounting the trans sideways like that is just asking for trouble, since the casing is not made for the linear force at that vertical angle. #3, these transmissions are not made to shift on the go, especially with a centrifugal clutch like that. there's no syncro gears, so you're essentially just jamming the gears together, destroying them, hence the "rough shifting" he mentioned in the video. If he set up a manual clutch that stops the input shaft completely in between shifts, he might be able to get away with shifting on the go. #4 as you can clearly see in the driving shot where you can see the back of the kart, he placed the chain tensioner on the wrong side of the chain, so all of the torque of the motor is pulling on the tensioner, and bending the frame, probably pulling the input shaft at a weird angle, contributing to snapping it off completely, as shown in the video. What could he have done to prevent all of this, and still have a cool 5 speed Kart? #1, use a thick oil in the trans, #2, mount the trans the correct direction, and use a right-angle gearbox to adapt to the kart motor, #3, use a manual clutch that slow down or completely stop the trans input shaft between shifts, and #4, avoid overspeeding the trans too much by using a larger output sprocket in order to get the ratio you need, instead of a smaller input sprocket size.
@JacknifeCreations
@JacknifeCreations 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, I also forgot, removing the reverse chain, since those tend to fly apart when overspeeding the trans.
@smekminfisk
@smekminfisk 9 ай бұрын
Right on brotherman
@BeachRacing99
@BeachRacing99 9 ай бұрын
@@JacknifeCreations And painting it, at speeds those boxes really heat up, and black paint only seals that heat in
@stuartpham8580
@stuartpham8580 7 ай бұрын
I like it , I want to see him do it again and let me have it when he's done with it because now I want one
@stuartpham8580
@stuartpham8580 7 ай бұрын
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@ericcope8216
@ericcope8216 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this, especially now. Nice work engineering parts to make it work, for the most part! Also, shout out to your community on not being dickheads and letting you cruise the streets. No harm, no foul.
@robertcanup4473
@robertcanup4473 Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired design engineer who worked at NASA's manned space flight center. I did some hot rodding when I was young. I can well remember what it was like to be young. You have done very impressive work here. You have multiple skills, and those skills are really important, and valuable. The key to good engineering is to think about how things will fail. If you design the failures out, what you have left is success. I'll give an example: when you are doing plumbing, if what you think you are doing is getting water from point A to point B, you are in trouble. What you are actually doing is keeping water out of the rest of the room. That means you have to be certain that your joints don't leak. In other words don't ask yourself "How can I make this work?" ask yourself "How is this going to fail?" Now lets talk about why the gear box was popping out of gear. Why would you expect it to stay in gear? Your shift lever didn't have any sort of detent system to hold the transmission in a particular gear. The torques from the motor apply twisting forces to the structure holding the transmission in place, and vibration is going to cause your shift lever to move from where you left it. When you design your detent system to hold your shift mechanism in place, think about how torques, vibration, thermal expansion, and contraction are going to affect it, and design around those problems. Expect each part to only do one job. A Swiss Army Knife looks like a good idea, until you try to eat a steak with one, and you find out having a fork at one end, and a knife at the other doesn't work very well. Now I want to talk about something no young man ever considers; safety. Humans can run about 17 mph, and the rule of two times the maximum expected stress shows up in our bodies. In other words, any sort of accident at or above twice that maximum body speed (call it 35 mph) is a potentially fatal accident; the human body simply comes apart in such collisions. The connections to the organs break down, arteries are torn loose from the heart, for example, and the body bleeds to death internally. Keep going, have fun, but stay safe. Think about what a tire blowout at high speed would do. Get tires rated for twice your maximum speed.
@robertmccreary4749
@robertmccreary4749 Жыл бұрын
Motorcycle transmission shifters do not have detents.
@scarbourgeoisie
@scarbourgeoisie Жыл бұрын
One of the best vids I've seen on KZbin in ages. Love to see these young kids work with their hands instead of goofing on video games. Nice work.
@lunastrat
@lunastrat Жыл бұрын
A suggestion, when you ramp the music up, maybe a little less. Every time the music ramped up I had to turn it down, and then back up to hear you speaking.
@trinidyjohnson9295
@trinidyjohnson9295 Жыл бұрын
It's awesome to see there's still people in this world who still use there hands and amagination .....just make sure you pass it down to your kids....teach them.....
@jeffreylindley845
@jeffreylindley845 Жыл бұрын
Use 75w-140 gear oil in the gear case. Add a drain and fill port. Shifting will be much smoother and you will get more power to the wheels.
@JASPACB750RR
@JASPACB750RR Жыл бұрын
I’m not that old, late 30s, but what I can say is the world needs more youths like you. I’m guessing your late teens. Sorry if your not. Nowadays kids are too worried about gaming or internet trends. Not too many interested in mechanics, engineering and fabrication. Keep it up man!
@rsz90182
@rsz90182 Жыл бұрын
My kids are glued to computers playing Roblox or MindCrap.
@stevepeterson1377
@stevepeterson1377 Жыл бұрын
Don’t let the negative comments stifle you. You are learning by doing and failures give you as much information as successes. 60 years ago I built three, none as innovative as yours. Great to see you building and having fun and success doing it.
@murrayfarrow866
@murrayfarrow866 10 ай бұрын
What a great video. I'm so pleased to see a young man making productive use of his time versus sitting around playing games. He is steps ahead of others his age, understanding mechanics, using a welder and power tools. I work with adults who don't understand anything about their cars other than it goes or it doesn't (must to out of gas). I look forward to what you'll build next and thumbs up.
@joemitchell2909
@joemitchell2909 Жыл бұрын
Young man... It's good to see that you dive into creativity. I'm 63 years old and I grew up riding Mini bikes and gocarts. You are too cool young man!!!!!
@JeffreyPar-pr2zw
@JeffreyPar-pr2zw 6 ай бұрын
Yes, you need a clutch. The centrifugal clutch will stay engauged until RPMs at the engine drop low enough. Eventhough you release the throttle the forward momentum will keep the RPMs at the engine well above the release RPM range. You need a positive release means so you can shift without the engine torque or the momentum of the cart torque putting a load on the gears to shift. This is a very simplified explanation. Good luck.
@charleywaffles6366
@charleywaffles6366 Жыл бұрын
This is the mindset of the folks in the late 40’s and early 50’s that gave us what’s known as hot rodding. Respect to you sir!
@josephhobbs3009
@josephhobbs3009 Жыл бұрын
Hey dude great build! Sorry the transmission gave up but I really worried about that in put shaft when you have it apart! It didn't look like it would put up with much. The one thing I would have suggested before it broke was less grease in the gearbox I understand why you filled it but they're not designed for that and I think it had more pressure inside then you realize and that aided the breakage of the case and the shaft support! Greece is a great thing but so many people over Greece the hell out of stuff and it causes all kinds of problems just my opinion my friend but great build I enjoyed the video thank you
@dewey404
@dewey404 Жыл бұрын
Bro if we grew up in the same neighborhood we’d be best friends 100%
@willpitts4491
@willpitts4491 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@jaybird3651
@jaybird3651 Жыл бұрын
Would u guys be kissing buddies
@Foxracing401
@Foxracing401 Жыл бұрын
Grease my shaft ill grease yours kinda friends?
@Matthew-wj8cm
@Matthew-wj8cm Жыл бұрын
Grease my gearbox I'll grease yours
@cameronvandygriff7048
@cameronvandygriff7048 Жыл бұрын
I'm 25 and I'd be friends with him me and my buddy actually built one with a 3 speed ours was alot more janky cause we were in highschool and alot less funds but aye
@AStrangernightApache0864
@AStrangernightApache0864 Жыл бұрын
Dude whatever you do never give up . I'm old enough to be your grandfather and my younger brother and I had some go-carts when we were younger and man we would have a blast . Had he still been alive we still would be doing our thang . There's nothing like having fun and being young so don't forget to never give up .
@bonermaroner2453
@bonermaroner2453 Жыл бұрын
My first carts were wood with dads lawnmower engine on a reel
@danven1256
@danven1256 Жыл бұрын
Well I'm certainly impressed with your talent. Of my almost 50 years in the automotive industry I've only worked with a handful of people over the years that we're as creative as you and all of them had many more years of experience. Well done !
@RedlineRick2007
@RedlineRick2007 Жыл бұрын
... Believe me he's a long way from 'WhistlinDiesel' level but it seems like just yesterday I saw Cody's ATV reaper wheel video and thought, welp the kids got welding skills... now if he doesn't kill himself! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mycustomgokart
@mycustomgokart Жыл бұрын
@@RedlineRick2007 yeah I’ve got a few comments saying I’m trying to be like him but in reality it’s just fun to “nicely” drive things till something happens
@RootBoyJim
@RootBoyJim Жыл бұрын
It's not the Clutch. It can't handle the Stress of the Street's Rapid Acceleration. This Transmission is one big Granny Gear for a Lawn Turtle.
@ZelosZelo
@ZelosZelo 10 ай бұрын
it dropped into neutral because of all of these factors probably: 1 too much power for the gearbox. You will have to calculate your torque to match the rated torque for the input for the gear box. Use a correct gear ratio based on the engines max power to match or under the max of the gearbox 2 yea..you need a better clutch and 3 the case was probably flexing. mount points are put in places that allow the enclosure to "flex" in a balanced way. . not enough space to explain that here.. in short you'll want to mount the gearbox the same way- (direction power is applied, distance from the power and orientation to the torque) to get the best out of it. or gussie it up by welding xtra supports and material on the case.
@Drmelfrank
@Drmelfrank 8 ай бұрын
Despite all of the criticism, you did a fantastic job. You are smart, creative, and developing a great set of fabricating and mechanical skills. WELL Done!!
@jeffmack4995
@jeffmack4995 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, loved the build! You've found the key... one learns nothing by laying down some cash and buying a rig, but learns immeasurable lessons by building it and solving the problems on your own......
@zzanatos2001
@zzanatos2001 10 ай бұрын
I had a Skat Kat minibike when I was your age. It had a torque converter instead of a transmission. Working on it with my dad taught me everything I needed to know about engines when I got my first car. Have fun and stay safe.
@mwbjgamingprojects
@mwbjgamingprojects Жыл бұрын
Hey kid, how ya doin'? I'm a new subscriber with years of mechanical experience since I was 7 years old & I'm 25 years old now, that Geerbox was designed for axial loads and will fail when placed under lateral load-forces. You can find Geerboxes designed for lateral load-forces on there outboard shafts. Looking forward to watching more of your videos so keep up the good work, you'll learn as you go.
@glmoore001
@glmoore001 10 ай бұрын
I think you stuffed WAY too much grease in the gear box. I would have thought oil would have been used. Didnt I see a drain plug on the case? If so, it is not there to drain grease :) Good job on the build though.
@Chris-bu2hg
@Chris-bu2hg 10 ай бұрын
I owned a garage for many years. I wish there was more kids like you in this world. Keep up the good work you’ll go far in life.
@yelyab1
@yelyab1 9 ай бұрын
You answered my first question. Don’t give up on the gear box. Get a 10 speed automatic. Junk yards should be filling up with that base Ford engine trans combo. What a rip. I hate to admit to this but the guy that said go electric would make life a lot easier. Naw. Stick with, suck, smash, bag, go!
@555byron
@555byron Жыл бұрын
Peerless 5 speed transmissions can be converted to gear oil instead of grease. Faster, better shifting, and it's easier on everything because grease is too thick for going fast. These are used for racing lawnmowers all the time and that is where I heard about the gear oil conversion
@tedgaddy7398
@tedgaddy7398 Жыл бұрын
So great to see a young man with natural mechanical skills like my self, I’m 64, great video
@dinojimenez6888
@dinojimenez6888 Жыл бұрын
Well said, I’m thinking the same thing. What a good kid he’ll be a great man one day.
@patrickvanden8322
@patrickvanden8322 Жыл бұрын
7:35 Are you sure you used enough grease?
@naff81275
@naff81275 Жыл бұрын
Nice work and video, I really think the grease was your limiting factor. Use 80w-90 and make sure you touch up your seals and seal the case. Probably have better luck. Some single seal bearings would also help. I would like to see you try again. 👍🏽
@TheBeeMan1994
@TheBeeMan1994 Жыл бұрын
Alot of the people are talking about sideload, but the biggest issue with a peerless 700 is they MUST be used with a clutch. They are designed for sideload but not rammerjammin into the next gear, the neutral you were getting was the shift forks not slipping into the next gear, and instead the gears spinning around them. They absolutely need to be used with a clutch
@borgdrone8369
@borgdrone8369 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the comments here no one told you to put 90 wt gear oil in that trans not grease !!! That's why that trans broke ...
@minnesotarc7964
@minnesotarc7964 Жыл бұрын
and Rightly so. That grease likely doesn't have the fluid dynamics that gear oil has going in between the teeth. The amount of friction being built up on a part that wasn't getting enough of the multipurpose grease to fully incase the sprockets in a continuous fluid. Some parts got hot enough because of lack of lube that something had to break.
@american23t
@american23t Жыл бұрын
I was going to say that. Only it's probably SAE60 non detergent Harley-Davidson.
@duanebaalson2287
@duanebaalson2287 Жыл бұрын
Upgrade your lube to synthetic. It’s more forgiving when it comes to heat….
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 3 сағат бұрын
That went through my brain to. Bet your right
@bob1947essex
@bob1947essex Жыл бұрын
Way too much grease, it'll absorb power, and then get very hot. Thick oil may have been better as long as the shafts have seals fitted.
@chefscorner7063
@chefscorner7063 Жыл бұрын
Heat also weakens the metal. Good call.
@fatttony9156
@fatttony9156 Жыл бұрын
90 weight would of been my choice . Not grease.not for a gearbox. I have never drained grease out of a gearbox before.. you live you learn ya know . Kid has a good aptitude for mechanics .
@stevenklein8245
@stevenklein8245 Жыл бұрын
Morons. Thats literally the manufacturer recommendation for almost all sequential gear boxes. A pound of grease.
@bob1947essex
@bob1947essex Жыл бұрын
@@stevenklein8245 Rubbish. I used to work for Ricardo's. Worked on the design of the McLaren F1 gearbox, and the Bugatti Veyron. You need an oil with GL4 or GL5 specification.
@alancooper7062
@alancooper7062 9 ай бұрын
That gearbox will have so much drag with all that grease ? Surely oil filled would be so much better ???
@leave_me_alone_im_trying_t9685
@leave_me_alone_im_trying_t9685 Жыл бұрын
Well you dont know if you dont try. Dont listen to negative comments, those people probably never have and never will be able to fabricate or build anying in there lives. Cool project 👍
@jasoncummings4994
@jasoncummings4994 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I couldn’t have said it better myself. 98% of the neg comments haven’t taken their fingers off the computer long enough to try! Better to try and fail than to never tried at all.
@jimbo44cc13
@jimbo44cc13 Жыл бұрын
Nice, impressive fabrication. Great job. YOu have a bright future ahead of you.
@keithsteinle747
@keithsteinle747 10 ай бұрын
A centrifugal clutch don't disengage until the RPM of the engine is close to idle (depending on how heavy the springs are) you need an actual clutch system to make the gear box work. Now if you can find an external motorcycle transmission you might be able to power shift it by dropping RPM to shift.
@woodsmn8047
@woodsmn8047 Жыл бұрын
the gearbox is designed for a lawn tractor that goes 5 to ten MPH tops when you geared it up to 50 MPH it subjected the gearbox to strains way beyond it's ability and it self destructed ... get an engine trans from a small dirtbike that will stand the strain ...!
@BobbyRiggs-d2k
@BobbyRiggs-d2k 3 ай бұрын
50hp racing lawn mowers say different
@mitchellwoodham28
@mitchellwoodham28 9 ай бұрын
1. Thanks for sharing your talents. 2. You remind me of my twin bro at that age... Always "hopping up" bikes/carts with whatever parts he could find (chainsaws/mowers/farm equipment) from belts to chain drives. Give him a stick welder/hammer and he'd make it work. He's a successful mechanical engineer now... So keep it up. 3. Take care of your body now because when you get in your 50's all those bumps/bruises will take its toll.
@AEON.
@AEON. Ай бұрын
TIPS: REMOVE the REVERSE from that gearbox!!! - look up how racing lawn mowers use that peerless gearbox - and how they make it race ready and reliable and so they don't destroy themselves - also use roller bearings on the casing - not the stock copper bushing (no bearings just a copper sleeve) do not use ball bearings there - they are not as effective especially with the torque from stop and go and heavy acceleration. You can find these gearboxes for dirt cheap to free from most REAR ENGINE LAWN MOWERS! John Deere and Snapper mowers that have the rear engines will most likely have these gear boxes.
@KapiteinKrentebol
@KapiteinKrentebol Жыл бұрын
7:30 Don't overdo it with the amount of grease, too much grease and the gearbox will overheat. Usually the manufacturer states a certain weight of grease to put in.
@patrickvanden8322
@patrickvanden8322 Жыл бұрын
ik denk het meer een probleem is het een versnellingsbak voor stilstaand schakelen ofwel geen syncromesh
@circomnia9984
@circomnia9984 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, when I saw you shoving that much grease in there, I was like, that gearbox is gonna explode!! Imagine my surprise when I got to the end. Anyway, you live and learn. Main thing is you're doing something you love, and it shows. Great to see young kids having healthy fun. Keep going, you'll be great some day.
@highnoonsmallenginerepair
@highnoonsmallenginerepair Жыл бұрын
Dude! Your channel is so underrated! You deserve more subs. I can tell you put a good amount of effort into these videos with the carts and the video editing. Props to you!
@highnoonsmallenginerepair
@highnoonsmallenginerepair Жыл бұрын
Also I'd love to see that gearbox with a proper manual clutch or possible torque converter
@mycustomgokart
@mycustomgokart Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! 🤙
@highnoonsmallenginerepair
@highnoonsmallenginerepair Жыл бұрын
@@mycustomgokart For sure! 👍
@carlschroeder6811
@carlschroeder6811 Жыл бұрын
Nice job for such a young guy, you are very talented! Those transmissions need "00" grease (Snapper part #7061017), much thinner "flowable" grease than what you used, fill case about half way.(the grease will be slung and flow into all areas needed). This transmission is also not designed to be shifted on the fly or run at that high RPM with the side load/torque of your primary chain setup, those bronze bushings will wear very fast compared to ball/needle bearings.
@shanew.williams
@shanew.williams 29 күн бұрын
What a great idea ! Don't know if those old mower gearboxes were ever meant to shift while moving or "on the fly" but your imagination, enthusiasm & skills make me remember what it was like to be young.
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 Жыл бұрын
The chain snap can be eliminated by putting the tensioner on the slack side of the chain, not the pulling side. Also, an outboard bearing on the transmission input shaft will take the side load off the input shaft bearing. Also, centrifugal clutches are tough on transmission gears, the engagement chatter tends to break things.
@theguitarlocust
@theguitarlocust Жыл бұрын
Awesome project. Love all the negative comments from the game boys who never get their hands dirty.
@Krytren
@Krytren 10 ай бұрын
As a kid my Dad and I built a go cart with a 440 liquajet snowmobile engine. It was really fun, spent way more time broken then running. First take off it burned the rubber between rim and tire lol. Had to hard mount tires for it. (Lawn mower tires) Second take off, it lifted the wheels and the pully split, lol luckily we planned for that potential and had guards. Shortly after it was finally good to go, we moved and sold it to a friend.
@JMMACxXxSHELZ
@JMMACxXxSHELZ 4 ай бұрын
Dude u have a sick ass natural sleekness to your build style. its just clean.
@teddypamperin6232
@teddypamperin6232 Жыл бұрын
Freaking Fantabulous job! My only suggestion would be to not overload the gearbox with grease. Too much and it will lead to overheating because of all the extra friction from churning the grease....
@sarcastrophe6992
@sarcastrophe6992 Жыл бұрын
i agree
@ronnyeverett9687
@ronnyeverett9687 Жыл бұрын
The reason this did not work is because this is what's called a centrifugal clutch. The clutch engages when you Rev it and stays engages when you stay in the revs. When he was running the engine up and trying to shift the clutch was still engaged which causes a shockload on the system and therfore breaking the output shaft of the gear box. Hope this helps:)
@secondhandlyon2603
@secondhandlyon2603 7 ай бұрын
I think a motorcycle transmission would be a better idea. Ideally the ratio should be 1:1 in second gear. Pretty cool project.
@bthompson101202
@bthompson101202 3 ай бұрын
Even though it broke..i call that a win. Id rather have more torque vs not enough. Great video man
@jimmcallister3795
@jimmcallister3795 Жыл бұрын
dudes a hero, great video. don't pay attention to the naysayer comments about what you should use. keep doing what your doing as long as your still having fun doing it.
@rogermitchell6272
@rogermitchell6272 Жыл бұрын
You renew my hope for young guys of today. To see a young nan working with his hands and not a game controller.. im a old gear head from 1960s i was under cars more then in them , it all started with building Go-Karts keep up the great work😊
@John-wx6wj
@John-wx6wj Жыл бұрын
Some young folks with game controllers in their hands are controlling submarines, UAV drones, fighter jets, robots, tanks, etc. Just because you don't understand, doesn't mean it's bad. I'm 100% sure the kid in this video owns plenty of game controllers as well. Get with the time boomer man, or get obsolete.
@dorun2002
@dorun2002 Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see how this worked. Those transmission required Bentonite not grease. Also landscapers killed these in one season my trying to change gears on the fly. They were only effective when stopping the machine changing gears and then proceeding. I do applaud his skills in design and building this cool little cart.
@gandyrick6425
@gandyrick6425 10 ай бұрын
This reminds me of when I was that age, 50 years ago, and constantly played/tinkered with snowmobiles. The one thing that is a lot different however, is that I couldn't move the track of my sleds without having my helmet on...or my Dad would have instantly grounded me. While I thought that was harsh back then, too many people I know of through the years have been killed or maimed riding bikes without a helmet and I now know how right he was. All of y'all need to start wearing helmets...and setting a better example.
@demonicsquid7217
@demonicsquid7217 10 ай бұрын
To be honest, he's welding without gloves, and doing all sorts of other stuff with no safety gear. He'll wake up once he loses a finger or two, or is having paramedics try and save his life after electrocuting himself. A for effort, F for everything else.
@rodgers1161
@rodgers1161 9 ай бұрын
You are obviously a diamond in the rough with your ingenious intelligence - I'm sure it goes well beyond gocart building, much much more? Keep up your passion as you go in life as I'm excited to possibly see more of what you have to offer in this life? I am richer for it after just one video
@gerrywood5325
@gerrywood5325 6 ай бұрын
With the type of transmission you had on the kart, you shouldn't have let off of the gas every time you shifted. That transmission was a straight shift without the use of a clutch similar to a CVT transmission like you find on a Can Am Spyder, that's why it kept going into neutral and that's why the shaft broke out of the transmission.
@sofy5432
@sofy5432 Жыл бұрын
Theory abt transmission fatigue: 1) Gearbox & sleeve bearings not designed for these speeds 2) Your grease as gentleman mentioned below thou acceptable in low speed applications may not be compressing fast enough as it passes btwn gear teeth pushing them apart. 90-80wt typical 3) Axial shock load fatigue, maybe added support on trans'n output shaft . .
@aaronmoss5366
@aaronmoss5366 Жыл бұрын
Are you certain that gearbox is supposed to be packed with grease like that? 80-90w instead of a ridiculous amount of red and tacky would be better I think.
@wildchildss15
@wildchildss15 7 ай бұрын
You did a great job, but please wear a helmet. You have a great mind. Don't waste it sir.
@rmckayne
@rmckayne 7 ай бұрын
You are a genius! I hope more young guys follow your jorney. America Need youth creating . Applause for all your team. God bless all of you.
@70FordMach1
@70FordMach1 Жыл бұрын
I bought one with a older 250cc Suzuki engine years ago. It already had 5 speeds in the engine. Would easily pop a wheelie. Very dangerous. Why don't cart racers use motorcycle engines? Changing gears adds to the fun.
@ianmurphy2580
@ianmurphy2580 Ай бұрын
Rules, it's usually stock appearing engines, fairly strict rules
@RAV21-32
@RAV21-32 Жыл бұрын
Keep building and coming up with new and better ideas!! Good video work!
@blue68chevelle
@blue68chevelle Жыл бұрын
Me and a few of my friends used to build racing lawnmowers. The rules were pretty simple. other than larger pulleys, and some type of gas pedal arrangement, basically everything had to come off of some kind of a lawnmower. that type of transmission is OK but if I remember correctly, there isn’t a lot of bearings in it. The main shaft that holds your gears have bronze bushings and that’s it. Also, I believe reverse is a pretty flimsy chain drive. It’ll work, but the bushings will be worn out before too long. The transmissions we never did destroy were the Spicer six speed slide shifts. They are pretty easy to recognize because the mower has the gearshift between your knees and the shift pattern is R. N. 123456 in an arc. Those things don’t have any space between the gears so you can’t really miss the gear. You can skip a gear, but it just goes into the next one. On the mowers, we would only use the clutch for first gear and reverse. All the other gears it was just mash the gas, let up, slam it into the next gear, mash the gas again. But they are transaxles so a little different setup.
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 Жыл бұрын
these gearboxes arent meant to be slam shifted, even with that centrifugal clutch it was getting beat pretty hard. Nothing's worse for torsional loads than a 90° bevel drive, the case just wasnt built for this kind of abuse. It was meant for a 5/6hp briggs on granny gears most likely. if you want to try again, try to work with a chinese honda clone pit bike engine, or a seized 2 stroke 250cc or more. delete the cylinder, cut the crank out, connect the predator by making an adapter in situ of the ignition flywheel, by chopping off the magnets. that's only possible if the ignition side of the block is dry. like on 139FMB engines. you'll get a really simple 4 speed gearbox that runs on oil, not grease (the heat caused by the friction and the rpm on that 90° trans didnt help) and can hold up ~20hp before it breaks. assuming you're not dumping it down on pavement like a caveman. or just get a 250cc+ 4 stroke motorcycle engine. might want to stretch the frame or make a new one though.
@chesterholland5017
@chesterholland5017 Ай бұрын
Great job on the cart, a career awaits you but I would have used 85W-140 gear oil in the gear box and only half full. I don't know if that would have saved the gear box but it would have shifted much smoother and dissipated heat better. That red grease you used is for slow moving applications.
@tmikemay6223
@tmikemay6223 Жыл бұрын
Dang im impressed as hell. Youve got all the skills of an Engineering expert. Get yourself a degree you’ve definitely got what it takes.
@baddage
@baddage Жыл бұрын
Great enginuity, young man. You will have a good future and a lot of fun in life.
@ast-og-losta
@ast-og-losta Ай бұрын
I push paper for a living. I've always been in awe of people who can fabricate. They are the true heroes of humanity.
@Tenasedeinc
@Tenasedeinc Ай бұрын
I marvel at fabricators
@dand3975
@dand3975 28 күн бұрын
Best way to learn fabricating and welding is by trying. Get a mig welder from harbor freight, watch some KZbin videos, and just keep trying till you get it right.
@Tenasedeinc
@Tenasedeinc 28 күн бұрын
@ might try this
@tman6762
@tman6762 3 ай бұрын
You have a lot of great compliments and you deserve them! But..... be safe.... you are young and you need to consider longterm effects of some of this stuff. Be careful with fumes and dust and noise. Keep the passion going and live it! Your a great inspiration....
@philchristensen2787
@philchristensen2787 Жыл бұрын
You’re a smart young man! Respect.
@douglascushenbery1747
@douglascushenbery1747 Жыл бұрын
My experience, lawn mower transmission housing are not thick enough material to handle that level of abuse. Also if you synchronize the gears (bevel the teeth) if done correctly, you won't need a clutch. For go carting a 3 speed transmission works better than a five. you will find the gear is similar, but quicker, less moving parts to fail, less time shifting. Last thing, use a l synthetic oil, not grease, in the gear box.. Good video, show more than pavement and turning tires next time. Enjoyed watching.
@BuceGar
@BuceGar Жыл бұрын
Every time I see someone use a lawn mower transaxle for a go kart, I always wonder why they don't use gear oil in stead of grease in the transaxle.
@genefogarty5395
@genefogarty5395 Жыл бұрын
Beveling a gear doesn't make it synchronized. Synchros make it synchronized. My Jerico 4 spd has straight cut gears and I can upshift at full throttle with no clutch.
@timeforbigchange9417
@timeforbigchange9417 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the thick grease comments, but always remember when doing your own build from scatch the weekest part is gonna break through trail & error. I think that aluminum gear box case at the output shaft can be aligned and welded reinforced and used again. Don't give up and don't get married, remember your dreams.
@milescarter7803
@milescarter7803 Жыл бұрын
Assuming the shift pin would hold up: lose the bevel drive and extend the input shaft out the side. Connect the input directly to the engine with a sleeve for example and then it will not only get lubricated properly it completely removes the drag and weakness of that bevel drive.
@mycustomgokart
@mycustomgokart Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@cantseeneedcaps
@cantseeneedcaps Жыл бұрын
AFTER 50 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS, IKNOW TALENT AND YOU HAVE IT YOU DO GOOD WORK KID STICK WITH IT
@77.88.
@77.88. Жыл бұрын
You bet he has what it takes, if he dose not QUIT?
@flightschoolcountyHelicopter
@flightschoolcountyHelicopter 10 ай бұрын
Find a Harley transmission! 4 or 5 speed and there is a 6 speed too. When i was a kid i put a hd 4 speed on a mini bike with a 5hp Briggs. It was very reliable and excellent when i had a friend on going up hill. Eventually changed out the centrifugal clutch for a cone belt Tc while still using the Harley transmission. Drove that minibike every place...made a lot of chain whine noise because of the jack shaft and the different size sprockets but it sounded like great gear whine. Just wanted to say you're a good mechanic keep up with it.. Geat projects come out of little garages. Subbed
@TripMeister
@TripMeister Жыл бұрын
As others have suggested, bone yard bike motor/tranny. My suggestion is a Kawasaki 3-cyl, 2-stroke w/a 5-speed. Talk about TORQUE!! I'm very impressed with your talent and determination!! Keep it up!
@tresfingeros
@tresfingeros Жыл бұрын
You'll tear up a frame or twist it...( understanding it's come a long ways since the 80s when i race pro karts) back then 175cc was the max ppl experimented with 250cc and had problems with axels and twisted frames.
@TripMeister
@TripMeister Жыл бұрын
@@tresfingeros funny how motorcycle frames that hold these torque monsters from the factory never tear or twist. Someone needs to do their homework.
@Displacement-destroyer
@Displacement-destroyer Жыл бұрын
Only thing I can think of is you dumped way too much grease in there and she probably could have got away with gear oil like half quart of 80/90 weight oil instead but otherwise it was a really nice build.
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