I Put OPPENHEIMER in Chronological Order and Ruined It

[@PentexProductions]

Check the description to see where to find Chronol-Oppenheimer. If you liked it, be sure to come back here and let me know what you thought of it (and tell your friends). For a full look behind the scenes, over on my Patreon there's a 36 minute editor's commentary where I talk you through how I made it in much more detail: www.patreon.com/pentexproductions

[@sageowouwu1366]

dude whats the password for the file ?

[@sjaool]

​@@sageowouwu1366just read the explanation on said website.

[@thetoastnbutterpodcast64]

Trinity@@sageowouwu1366

[@person6745]

@@sageowouwu1366 The passwords Trinity if your still wondering.

[@sageowouwu1366]

@@person6745 bro thank you sm

[@dashtoroya2838]

Well the characterisation of lewis strauss is why non linear story structure of oppenheimer worked really well. We first think strauss is just a random friendly guy with oppenheimer as strauss qoute him as some legend, then slowly builds him as an asshole villain, the reveal of him giving the files to the lawyer roger robb was showcased as a plot twist and it works well. And then you would really hate him, robb and that makes the loss of his senator's seat much satisfying.

[@PentexProductions]

Agreed, I think Strauss is essential for the original movie to work. When his scenes all get bunched at the end of the narrative like they are in the chronological edit, they lose a lot of that impact - mostly because we have already seen the Borden / FBI file twist before Oppy's interrogation, so by the time we get to the Senate hearing there's no mystery there, and that whole time we see him in a negative light, rather than in the movie where it is slowly teased out like you say. But it is still satisfying seeing him get justice served! That moment where he realises "they're not convicting, just denying" is just poetic justice at its finest.

[@bascal133]

Very true!

[@osmanyousif7849]

To be honest, I never saw Strauss as a hero or a villain, but a flawed man who’s pride is getting the best him. Not to mention, the movie does go to lengths, to show that it would be foolish to just place this all on Strauss’s shoulders, and relieve Oppenheimer of his own actions.

[@Jared_Wignall]

@@osmanyousif7849 I agree. Oppenheimer, while brilliant, had his own flaws. Plus, with his connections with people who were in the Communist Party at various points in their lives likely would have resulted in his security clearance being revoked due to how the 1950s were regarding communism in America, but due to being humiliated publicly by Oppenheimer, Strauss waited for the opportunity to get back at him and did so by ensuring his security clearance would be revoked by setting things up for everything to end up the way they did. No doubt he believed he did what was right for the country, though looking from the perspective of the modern day, he didn’t need to really do anything as again, Oppenheimer’s security clearance may have gotten taken away regardless due to his connections with those who were in the Communist party at one point in their lives, such as his wife, brother and sister-in-law.

[@smitty215able]

He didn't lose a seat on the senate. He was nominated for a cabinet position

[@samuelzins5089]

This movie has arguably the most effective use of non-linear scenes in any movie I've seen

[@PentexProductions]

A bold claim, but not an unreasonable one. I'd have to think long and hard before categorically agreeing with you (even within Nolan's catalogue I think The Prestige gives it a run for its money), but it is definitely a very powerful tool here, and used exceptionally well. Off the top of my head, the way 'Arrival' used non-linear storytelling for it's twist was brilliant, even if the movie overall is told relatively linearly, and I think The Social Network is also a strong contender. Come to think of it, TSN is similar Oppenheimer in the way it uses the non-linear story and dual-interrogation framing devices to enhance the characters and story. It also has a banger of a soundtrack....

[@samuelzins5089]

@@PentexProductions once upon a time in America is also up there, as well as inception for me

[@edbrown4800]

@@samuelzins5089what do you mean?

[@samuelzins5089]

@@edbrown4800 which part? If you mean the second, I meant they also use non-linear storytelling at the highest level

[@johngotti4286]

OUATIA

[@mateodoris6856]

This also shows why the Strauss storyline was extremely necessary. The interrogation is needed for exposition to stitch together the various parts of Oppenheimer's life, and it ends off with A) us not knowing who sabotaged Oppenheimer in the first place and B) us thinking that whoever it was just got away with it and justice never came around. Both of which are just historically inaccurate and would contradict the theme of the entire movie which is that theory will only get you so far, and what goes around comes around when you step into the real world. Brilliant movie.

[@PentexProductions]

I agree, I think his story adds a lot to the main narrative, and disagree when people argue it should be taken out. It works as a framing device, but its also a window into how the politics of the world had changed in the years since the war. His story very much has a place in the movie - it's just less effective when moved to the end (but still satisfying to see him get his just desserts). Also the fact that the actual historical person was petty enough to go through all of that just to spite Oppenheimer is just bizarre! When people claim it's not realistic or whatever it reminds me of people who though the ending of Apollo 13 was unrealistic. It's history, this actually happened! I think John Green said the difference between writing fiction and non-fiction is that fiction has to make sense.

[@DesignedbyKirk]

They won’t understand until they see it, and they won’t fear it until they understand it… Nolan upon seeing this chronological cut (probably)

[@PentexProductions]

It's how I feel too, to be fair!

[@playgroundchooser]

This is nuts. You basically just made.... a historical biopic. 😀 I loved Oppenheimer; it was so engrossing and engaging.

[@LordJagd]

I loathed Oppenheimer; it was so gross and enraging. jk

[@MMMHOTCHEEZE]

I enjoyed it other than the Trinity test.

[@PentexProductions]

Indeed! Like I say in the video, it's probably what this movie would have looked like if another director/screenwriter had adapted American Prometheus. It's much more conventional, so loses a lot of what makes it special.

[@stagelinedpro]

I have not watched this edit, but I can just imagine that watching Oppenheimer's interrogation scene in one linear scene is painful.

[@MazeratiHaase]

I tell ya, something hits hard about Einsteins words at the end when you see Oppenheimer as an older man smiling and shaking hands. You almost see innocence from Cillian in this scene and I don’t know why it’s stuck with me. It’s almost like he briefly forgets, but remembers Einsteins words just as his wife refuses to shake hands with Teller.

[@jomarilo.]

Its funny how as a child I preferred chronological order but as an young adult I gravitate towards movies like these. (historic movies) It seems more impactful because instead of saying "this happened," you're saying: "this is WHY it happened."

[@SapphireCrusader1988]

That's a great way to put it.

[@PentexProductions]

Absolutely. I think both formats work, of course, but it depends on the story you are telling. A lot of people approach historical biopics like this as a reason to just show the sequence of events that happened. Nolan was more interested in Oppenheimer's character, and how those events affected him, and I think that makes for a more compelling story.

[@SapphireCrusader1988]

@@PentexProductions Indeed. I knew of Oppenheimer, but thanks to this movie I understand him a little better than before. His flaws, doubts, and beliefs. Such an incredible individual.

[@HebaruSan]

Thank you so much. Your disclaimer of how this edit "is a mistake" aside, I am finding your version far more watchable so far at the 1-hour mark. Not having to stop and guess what year it is at the start of every scene, which events are now in the past and future as compared to the previous scene, what knowledge the characters do and don't have to inform and motivate their dialogue, etc., makes for a much less frustrating and anxious viewing experience. From now on I am only watching Nolan's movies if I can find a chronol fan edit like this.

[@HebaruSan]

I thought you might end up ruining the Einstein pond chat scene, but this time _I actually understood what was happening_ in it! Watching the Nolan edit, I missed the line about we blew up the world anyway; the meaning of that scene completely evaded me (possibly because I was too frustrated to pay attention by that point). But with so many distractions relocated in the chronol, I know what the characters have been experiencing recently, so it was so much easier to connect those dots!

[@devononair]

@@HebaruSan I wonder if I would enjoy the movie more this way too. Do I want to give up three hours of my life to find out?

[@denim_ak]

What I want to know, is what came first, the idea to make Oppenheimer chronological, or realizing that you could mash together the words chronological in Oppenheimer lol. Great work as always.

[@PentexProductions]

Everything starts with an idea...

[@idknothing7893]

Just finished watching CHRONOL-OPPENHEIMER it was really funny how tellers arc looses weight and just takes you no where lol, plus seeing the fade ins was always funny. overall it was like less impactfull sillier OPPENHEIMER lol

[@PentexProductions]

Oppenheimer....with George Lucas-style screen transitions! Glad you watched it!

[@idknothing7893]

@@PentexProductions yesssss 😂

[@jesustovar2549]

I wonder where I could watch chronological cuts of Memento, and also Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Ficción.

[@Danimal77]

loses*** weight, not looses.

[@GeckoTH]

I just finished watching your entire extended cut, and I must say that I am extremely impressed! I agree with everything you said in this video about why Nolan's non-linear framework makes for a much better film for all the reasons you listed, but I genuinely enjoyed your Chronol-oppenheimer cut to help me understand how all the details and relationships played out in chronological order. And I must commend you on how seamless your edit is! Seriously well done. And I know that next time I watch the theatrical cut of the film, I'll have a much better understanding of when and where I am at any given moment.

[@PentexProductions]

Thanks for watching, very glad you enjoyed it! I agree it does help you appreciate the timelines and relationships in the theatrical cut, so glad it was worthwhile to watch.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

A lot of people tend to gripe over Nolan's use of non linear storytelling, stemming all the way back in Memento and even used in Batman Begins. But here, you really see why it can work in the right hands. It's not about how often a trope is used; what makes a trope or filmmaking technique cliche is when it doesn't feel fresh. And _Oppenheimer_ made non linear storytelling feel entirely unique. That's hard to do. But this film tells us in the right hands, any trope or technique can feel unique.

[@jesustovar2549]

Non-linear storytelling it's been a thing since before Nolan, there were already back-and-forth stories that might have been hard to follow at first, like The Godfather Pt. 2 and Once Upon A Time in America, imagine them chronological. I argue that Nolan's Batman movies are the most straightforward, and probably the most accesible to common viewers.

[@alonzowurlitzer5617]

For me, Nolan went way to far. Non-linear, fine, but why also make the average scene length thirty seconds? He jumps around way, way too often. It seems like there's a time-jump every minute. It really, really took me out of the film and made it very hard for me to engage with the story and characters. Nolan has completely dispensed with trying to engage the audience and just wants to bamboozle them. And the dialogue was often very artificial-sounding. A hugely overrated film and a massive misstep for my favourite director.

[@AyoSword]

Actually, after seeing the the extended cut, I can't say that it's AS good as the original cut, but I can't say it was bad either. Even at the security hearing, it still felt immersive rather than just a series of chronological clips, because you watch it as if you're your own entity that's watching over the whole world through the 20's to the 60's instead of an invisible friend that's always beside the protagonist and the antagonist (Oppenheimer and Strauss). You may be biased to whoever the main character is at one point, but overall you still have your own individuality as a viewer of the entire timeline, which is a perspective that works extremely well in this and something I don't think any movie really has. Incredible find you by man, great job!

[@PentexProductions]

Thanks for watching it, and glad to hear you liked it. Maybe I was to self-conscious about all the edits. You've outlined an interesting way to view those scenes that I hadn't really considered before - I'll bear that in mind if I ever watch Chronol-Oppenheimer again (though having seen various draft versions about 5 times in the last week or so, that may be a while away!)

[@lenOwOo]

How can i have legal copy of it when i only have a subscription? We own nothing. .

[@blipmachine]

Kitty refusing to shake Teller's hand is a perfect ending to the film.

[@Connor8609]

It's the equivalent of making The Social Network in chronological order.

[@PentexProductions]

As in taking away a huge part of what made it so compelling in the first place? Totally agree!

[@samfilmkid]

The structure of the movie allows us to examine Oppenheimer’s life almost like a physics experiment. When you look at something on a particle level, you begin to see all kinds of contradictions and paradoxes of its nature. The same is true of good storytelling: We look at Oppenheimer from one way, where he may be a hypocrite or a fool, one minute he feels pride in what he’s done, the next he feels shame. Is he a war criminal, or a martyr? Did he feel guilt over what he did or was it just his ego? It’s paradoxical, and yet it works. Matt Zoller Seitz’s review of Oppenheimer explains this a lot better than me, strongly suggest you read it.

[@timskully3496]

7:09 THIS. this detail right here is a layer about this film i discovered on my 5th rewatch (every rewatch brings new findings!) the fact that through strauss’ perspective, oppenheimer was simply standing there, noticeably unbothered, and is very approachable with strauss. yet from oppenheimer’s perspective, he is living in an endless moment, seeing the imaginings that horrify him, standing still in time, trying to avoid the future at all costs. i think seeing the scene from strauss’ perspective shines a perfect light onto the subjectivity of the colored scenes. the things that robert is emotionally experiencing are visually illustrated for us, the audience, to see along with him, yet from an outsider’s point of view, oppenheimer is simply a supporting character to their protagonist. anyway i love this movie and love your effort in this! i will definitely NOT watch chrino-oppenheimer 😉

[@Gemnist98]

This was never going to be a good finished product, but seriously dude, way to go on this. It must have been really hard to edit a three-hour movie into this fashion, and while I won’t watch it, I admittedly am always morbidly curious what most nonlinear movies would look like in chronological order. Good luck to you in the future!

[@PentexProductions]

Thanks! It was fun to do, but not without it's challenges. Morbid curiosity is a suitable way to approach Chronol-Oppenheimer.

[@PainCausingSamurai]

I used to own the limited edition 2002 DVD, but a) lost it and b) never realized that easter egg existed

[@PentexProductions]

Very cool! The article linked in the sources explains it in more detail but I believe you had to enter some menu items in a specific order then solve some puzzles. You had to work for it!

[@silenttramping]

You should have called it "Chroppenheimer" 😁 Bad jokes aside, I've been keeping an eye on your channel from 3rd video I think, and am amazed how you keep stepping up your game. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo essay/investigation was on another level. Very well done mate and keep it up.

[@PentexProductions]

You jest, but I did consider it! I worried it might get people confused with 'Croppenheimer' - what the movie looks like when not presented in IMAX 70mm (www.dailydot.com/unclick/oppenheimer-aspect-ratio-croppenheimer/), and also if you hadn't watched the video then it might not be immediately apparent what the 'Chro' meant (maybe it's like the Fury Road Chrome cut where it's all black and white?) Decided to go for the sillier, if clearer name :) And thank you so much for sticking around the channel for so long! I was just reflecting today how wild it is to have just passed 60,000 subs. I think when video three came out I had less than 50. Thanks so much to you for taking a chance on a new channel and helping me get here! I'm looking forward to what's next :)

[@chrisjfox8715]

Croppenheimer wouldve been in 1:1 aspect ratio the whole time and released on IG instead of IMAX

[@Treblaine]

"Chroppenheimer" when you travel back in time and change one tiny thing.

[@JayronWhitehaus]

nuke at the midpoint when sorted is a total nolan move. Like how if you edit out Kat's scenes, the tenet hypocenter scene is precisely 10mins

[@PentexProductions]

The attention to detail in the timeline of Tenet is pretty insane.

[@JDonaldBin]

this is a really interesting look at narrative writing, super unique idea to talk about like this, and although you didnt bring it up, a really funny look at how brutal some of nolan's direction of edits can end up being, intentional or not. gonna go scroll through your back catalogue now. like a sane person

[@PentexProductions]

Enter at your peril! Thanks for watching :)

[@itsSandanuK]

Me after watching chrono-Oppie "now i'm become chrono, destroyer of intrigue"

[@rycol]

As a film/media student I gotta say... the colour draining to black and white is pretty cool XD

[@trewhite7903]

i audibly went 'oh thats a great idea' until he pointed out how film-school it is HAHA

[@kentalks2818]

Instead of having the singular focus on keeping it chronological order. Why not split it into Fission on Fusion putting those individual stories into chronological order?

[@Tacom4ster]

I would have also added clips of Barefoot Gen

[@louipoui]

Id still be interested in watching that cut

[@vfxstar7019]

I watched memento in chronological order a couple of years back for a school assignment where I needed to tell the story in chronological order and made a whole map

[@jesustovar2549]

My mother said Memento could've work fine as a chronological story, or even better, not that she didn't liked it, but she says Oppenheimer shows a more mature Nolan as a filmmaker.

[@rdvgrd6]

I was expecting to have a simple chronologically accurate timeline explained, but I got an even more complicated and twisted timeline

[@tobeunderstood]

what was password to download the movie

[@samwallaceart288]

I did a similar thing with _Birds of Prey._ Basically the real movie is: Harley Quinn gets in trouble with a mobster, and he pressures her to go steal a diamond off a criminal Harley drunksplains her issues at Black Canary and she feels for her > Black Canary loses the diamond > mobster makes Harley go get it > all the benching plotlines and characters bump into each other in real time at the end and decide to make the mobster piss off. _Still a bullshit movie,_ but the exercise taught me that the achronology hurt the movie more than help it, and the needless jumping back and forth just distract you from the fact that half the movie's plotline has massive gaps in its logic. Why does mobster need Harley's help finding the diamond when he already knows where it is? DON'T KNOW. How does _Harley_ figure out its in the jail when during the bargain he somehow _doesn't?_ DON'T KNOW. Why does the mobster proceed to send in a bunch of bounty hunters INTO THE JAIL to kill Harley anyways after he JUST let her go? DON'T KNOW. The movie relies on the audience not remembering what happened in the other chapter, and putting it back in chronological order clarifies that, no, it NEVER made sense, and no, the context doesn't help. The chronological version was still an improvement, though. Because for a solid 5 minutes you think it's gonna be a likable odd-couple team-up of goblin-mode Harley and jaded bruiser Black Canary bonding over guy trouble, but then the story just kinda fucks off into vague Saint Row reboot-looking-ass bullshit with the racist thief girl. Bumblebee was better.

[@chrisgaming9567]

5:03 Actually, I think a case could be made that the last events of the film in chronological order are Oppenheimer's visions of mutually assured destruction, if we assume that in the film's universe it's an actual event (which would thematically make sense).

[@salislazy]

just finished watching the extended version, it definitely takes away the charm of the original movie but by far my favorite scene was the slow shift to black and white after Oppenheimer's speech, especially with the music. That was some masterful editing.

[@PentexProductions]

Glad you watched it and enjoyed it, and that the colour shift worked for you. I was very on the fence about it so glad to hear it resonated.

[@Poloassassin828]

Ok, thank you, I will not be watching this video then. I LOVE Oppenheimer, have watched it 13xbalready, 5x in IMAX, 1st viewing was the 70mm version (amazing). So I most definitely do not want the movie spoiled, thanks again for the warning, cuz I watch pretty much every video about Oppenheimer.

[@thattylerguy2104]

My dad was confused by it not being linear but stuff like Strauss being behind it all wouldn't have worked if it wasnt

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

I think we all learned an important lesson: ruining something helps you appreciate that thing.

[@aaronborok8398]

Tbh I think we often think that historical accounts should be linear, but that isn't normally how we view history. History changes as we learn new details, discover lost or banned accounts, or just read a different perspective on the same events. How we view history isn't normally linear in itself, and a film is uniquely capable of showing that nonlinear learning of new bits of knowledge

[@BercowSandwich]

This video was genuinely funny to watch in the best way possible. Love it!

[@jqyhlmnp]

I like to think Robert Downey Jr’s team bullied him to create an entire new imax format and position importance onto the character

[@limoreperetzwoloshin8860]

Or the Picasso paintings, or Ionesco "The Rhinoceros"?

[@patrickthomas8890]

I love Nolan’s dreamy, emotional way of telling a story. He’s almost like an impressionist painter. I often feel like Im remembering a dream. However, the non-linear storytelling is starting to get old.

[@Hamentsios10]

10:47 Seriously? Not even Mission Impossible or John Wick? Good work on the vid anyway.

[@PentexProductions]

MI and John Wick both have great scores, for sure, but for me Spiderverse and Oppenheimer are on a whole other level. Each to their own though (to be fair, nothing quite gets me amped for a movie like the Mission Impossible theme). Thanks for watching :)

[@tnmgamingch.1935]

If Oppenheimer back to cinema in few years. I will definitely watch it 10 times

[@cjprowe5]

Now we just need an edit with an A bomb that actually looks like an A bomb instead of just a lot of tnt

[@zeri0n544]

Hi man, is it possible to turn pirates of the caribbean 2 and 3 into a single movie, always thought that was the way they were suposed to be but maybe I'm wrong. great video, you're awesome.

[@Indarow]

Christopher Nolan is an absolute genius of cinematography timing. Anyone acutely familiar with history knows this film is a sacrilege of historical timeline, but it puts the timeline in a manner that makes complete historical sense for a casual audience.

[@azeemtravadi6128]

Pentex did you watch Godzilla Minus One? If not you should go see it, it's really well made and the sort of thing you'd enjoy

[@tnmgamingch.1935]

I really hate Toho for this movie. They didn't let us asian watch it in theater.

[@PentexProductions]

It's not released yet where I live, but when it comes out I'm definitely planning to see it. I'm not a huge Godzilla fan, but I've heard very good things about this one.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

@@PentexProductions If for nothing else you should see it due to the Oppenheimer memes. I saw a great thing on read it where the poster of Oppenheimer and Godzilla Minus 1 were photoshopped to say: Fuck Around, Find Out.

[@ahdvd]

Doing a historical movie and literally making it all chronologically of course will be boring, you can make it chronological but STILL keep flashbacks or afterthoughts to show a character realising something after the fact without compromising storytelling. Your version WOULD still work if you did it with that ending moment still in place at the close of the movie, but also with that moment being intrusive throughout the movie - that moment is so effective as an ending to the theatrical cut because it’s so pivotal in Oppenheimer’s life. It should intrude into his thoughts at moments throughout the movie because it should be on his mind and be so intrusive as to occupy his thoughts unwanted because if that moment had not happened he wouldn’t have made the decisions he did. Not exactly a regret, but a lingering ‘what if…?’ Of quantum mechanics. You could even start the ‘chronol-oppenheimer’ cut with him receiving his award and then cut to that moment before starting the story right back at the beginning, so it would play out as the entire movie being Oppenheimer thinking back on his life and everything that led up to that moment. You could even end the opening scene with his wife not accepting the handshake, setting up the wuestion of why to the audience before the reason is revealed throughout the movie. Chronological does not need to be taken literally.

[@ClintBandito]

Risky question, but I was interesting in doing a re-edit of a movie I do own on Blu Ray and I'm just curious as to how you would approach downloading it for personal re editing purposes?

[@barney10240]

If you ever wondered, It's there any video game trying this technique? There's one video game actually try it but it's ruin a pacing and slow down some of the segment. The game in question is Hotline Miami 2.

[@lostcauselancer333]

I always thought about doing this with the Breaking Bad Franchise (and also assumed it would be lousy)

[@michaelcoy311]

Can you do the same with Dunkirk? I feel like it would finally make sense.

[@TheRealWalterClements]

I've always wondered how Pulp Fiction would be if it was in chronological order. I'd imagine it being completely pointless. Pulp Fiction doesn't have much of a message and most of it's substance is based on it being out of order.

[@cheekster777]

Oh no! Thank you my friend.

[@James_Dakota]

Believe it or not, I just watched the extended version and I actually enjoyed it more than the theatrical cut. Maybe I’m just stupid and can’t follow along a film being edited in a way where it’s non-linear: but I did indeed find the original cut’s pacing jarring. Thanks for making this project!

[@tykjenffs]

I edited away all black and white scenes so the movie solely centers on Oppenheimer. As someone whos already read American Prometheus I don't need to know Strauss one bit. Cillian Murphy truly IS Oppenheimer. One of the most impressive performances ever.

[@PentexProductions]

Did you keep the scenes where the AEC debate the hydrogen bomb and/or Oppy's arrival to Princeton?

[@tykjenffs]

@@PentexProductions I basically cut everything that is related to "Fusion". So no, no AEC. Strauss is not in the edit at all. Cut the movie down from 3 hours to 2: 15. It flows so nicely without Politics ;)

[@sandiaYpescado]

It’s a few movies. But the way it’s put together it just doesn't work well.

[@shrin210]

It works perfectly. Just not understood by many. Glad it was made like this.

[@sandiaYpescado]

@@shrin210 glad you understand movies better than me. Lucky

[@tnmgamingch.1935]

I understand the movie even that watch a single video about Oppie's history

[@PentexProductions]

I think the original movie works excellently, but you might enjoy the chronological edit if you found the narrative hard to follow. Give it a watch and see if you enjoy it more this way.

[@officialjustinsinclair4087]

What would happen if someone didn't have legal copy?

[@CDubya.82]

I once did the same to Batman Begins. Worked out ok

[@asleepordead8698]

Any movie by Chis Nolan, u can ruin it by simply putting it in linear order. Cuz Nolan films are all about the viewer's attention which is almost completely controlled by pacing. His characters are always doing a lot of things in a very short amount of time.

[@Danimal77]

Thank you for all of your hard work!

[@deadgamesdeadman]

101 films re-released memento and had the chronological cut with it

[@tfpp1]

Chronology + Nolan + Oppenheimer = Chronol-Oppenheimer

[@PentexProductions]

Chro-Nolan-Hei-Murphy. We can go deeper!

[@pandakso3365]

Release the Chronologoppenheimer!

[@devononair]

It's fascinating to watch you talk about why you love this movie. I thought it was terrible, so it's illuminating to hear why other people disagree.

[@yudhabagaskara98]

if other than nolan directed the film, it would be presented chronologically

[@jesustovar2549]

Someone thought of David Fincher, also Oliver Stone wanted to make his own Oppenheimer film back in the 90s, I guess it would be something like JFK.

[@Roman-tu3vh]

I think Oppenheimer works in "right" chronology even less than Memento

[@anadamvargasblunt]

The conversation on the train, historically took place roughly four months later, not four days later. The train scene should come much later in your chronological order.

[@sammoh6746]

This is something I myself wanted to do

[@PentexProductions]

Go for it!

[@reubenm.d.5218]

I’m currently reading the biography which inspired the film. While I’m sure it’s worthy of the Pulitzer Prize that it won… boy lemme tell ya, it’s got none of the narrative intrigue or momentum of the film adaptation. Different medium for a different purpose of course, it’s just very noticeable

[@byucatch22]

Just so i'm clear...Chronol-Oppenhiemer is great and I should definitely watch it?

[@closeben]

15:05 my mind blown that Nolan wrote the Oppenheimer script in first person..?? I would be interested to watch the 2 hour version, as I felt all the interrogation and hearing stuff is what I least enjoyed, especially seeing in an IMAX theatre, I felt it was just too much dialogue driven storytelling. I’m curious what you mean when you say the export wasn’t suitable for 5.1? Do you just mean that your editing software doesn’t support 5.1 or that you tried it and it sounded bad?

[@limoreperetzwoloshin8860]

Do you also want to explain why J.P.Sartre wrote the play "Huis clos"

[@tech_red4277]

I imagine someone that is desesperate enough to watch the movie like that

[@gregory-of-tours]

Is it sacrilege to say that I maybe kinda prefer the chronological edit? I always found the original ending a bit trite. Here it sets up the whole final section. Maybe I'm just old.

[@Omevoc]

Can we have a cut of Oppenheimer without all those spammy annoying flashes and swirls of light?

[@changer_of_ways_999]

Masterpiece of a film? Dude, ya huffing something strong there.

[@SimonBuchanNz]

Thanks for the reminder for how great the Into The Spider Verse soundtrack is!

[@brunsonbacheler]

So it’s bad because the Einstein scene should be at the end, then just keep it at the end and let it be a flashback that wouldn’t be a problem

[@jorgedontola092]

All opinion aside: Chronol-OPPENHEIMER is an awesome title lol

[@the_kovic]

There is a way to share fan-edits in a way that would be completely legal but it is complex. Basically, you would share an ffmpeg script that would execute commands that would transform a base version of the movie (like a Bluray dump) into your fan-edit. The reason why this is incredibly complex is because a good fan-edit is piece of art itself making lots of small changes in a WYSIWYG editor and producing this kind of script would require noting all these changes down and reproducing them as a sequence of commands for a much less approachable piece of software. Unlikely but possible.

[@DeviantGryphonFromTinyMoat]

I’ve yet to watch Chronol-Oppenheimer, but I know it’s not likely going to hold up, like you’ve already said. But just from watching this, it shows how great of an editor you are, to make an impossible task, possible-even if not perfect (but how could it be? Oppenheimer was already perfect).

[@dr_volberg]

Just finished the movie. I liked it a lot. I might try the extended version next time.

[@Paccyd33]

Is there an extended version? I’ve heard nothing about it

[@dr_volberg]

@@Paccyd33 Extended version of the Chroonol-Oppenheimer

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

#chronoloppenheimeristerribleandyoushouldntwatchit

[@PentexProductions]

I should get that on a T-shirt

[@coyotejag7427]

Guess you can say the past sequences were real *flash* backs.... Aye?

[@mrRambleGamble]

Your joke bombed

[@PentexProductions]

They'll blow you away!

[@dawesome5388]

Bro is too good to only have 60k subs

[@PentexProductions]

Tell your friends

[@TheLazyNecromancer]

Pentex Productions stole non-linear editing from Chris Nolan and gave it to KZbin For this he was chained to a rock and tortured for eternity

[@phenom568]

Funnily enough, this highlights the problem I have with the end of the movie. The emotional weight of that scene only works with the following decades of information that Oppenheimer himself didn't have. In fact, at this time in his life, he was rather gun ho about nukes. He just thought they needed to be controlled by scientist through the UN. Oppenheimer never regretted the creation of the bomb and never regretted it being dropped on Hiroshima. He did have questions about the necessity to drop one on Nagasaki but never condemned it. And worse still, his falling out with Strauss had nothing to do with a fictional conversation with Einstein. They had severe disagreements over the H bomb. This led Strauss to undermine Oppenheimer whenever he could, ultimately leading to Openheimer's security clearance being revoked. Strauss failure to get confirmed had more to do with his animosity toward Democrats than his dealings with Oppenheimer. However, that did play a role, though nothing like what happened in the movie. So the whole scene doesn't work for me. The emotional weight hasn't been earned, and most of the scenes with Strauss, which rely on this scene, are mostly fiction.

[@Treblaine]

Oppenheimer was opposed to Fusion bombs being seriously developed even in 1949 when it was found the Soviets had developed nuclear bombs. Though initially his opposition was purely practical. The film is not too extreme in its speculation that Oppenheimer's fear of the eventual consequence of nuclear war was apparent even in the 1947 Princeton meeting which was why he was reluctant to start an arms race with the Soviets in 1949. He could see the inevitable next logical step, the Soviets too would make thermonuclear weapons and each side would make more and more.

[@carl_der_cuhle]

Really cool video!!

[@maju3606]

Damn, this video deserves a lot more views

[@gm6856]

I thought it was better in chronological order. Easier to follow

[@trubnikov]

Great video!

[@itayeldad3317]

You basically made an adaptation of Oppenheimer's Wikipedia page

[@beesh1019]

No fix it

[@alonzowurlitzer5617]

I completely disagree with you. Non-linear stories can work well but the time jumps in Oppenheimer are way too frequent and encompass too many periods, to the extent that they stopped me from becoming invested in the story. Trying to tell four stories at once, and not all of them very compelling, is not a way to get emotional engagement. It's a triumph of style over substance. Worst film I've seen for a long time.

[@CATDRL2]

Can you do the opposit and improve a terrible movie like "The Last Jedi"?

[@PentexProductions]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fabUgqSvjbF1aqc

[@r4h4al]

I want to watch. Could be a good idea if it helps develop the understanding of the film & subject matter. Also I'm willing to donate to the channel in return of watching it. Just tell me how.

[@PentexProductions]

Hope you enjoy it. If you have the means, there's a link to the Patreon page in the description, which is the best way to support the channel

[@r4h4al]

@@PentexProductions Nah, I don't want a subscription.

[@PentexProductions]

Fair enough - I finally got around to setting up a Ko-Fi account if you prefer a one-off payment. Thanks again for watching. ko-fi.com/pentexproductions

[@RainFall800]

whats the password for the Chronol-Oppenheimer

[@PentexProductions]

Read the website.