Teaching Gen Z in America VS Australia: Guess which students can't read or behave? I QUIT TEACHING 😭

[@MsLEducation]

I’m glad you’ve interviewed another high school teacher! I’m not sure people truly understand that once students are in high school (15-18 years old), there’s only so much we can do. High school is the ‘last stop shop’ before students go to college, trade school, the military, or right into the work force. If they cannot read, write, or do basic math by the time they are 17 years old, what do administrators honestly expect us to do? There’s no amount of differentiation that will help. We cannot fix the years of learning and mastery they are missing. Furthermore, they are almost adults by the time they get to us. We should be able to require higher expectations and speak candidly about how their current performance may impact their future options. To this end, there should be no expectation to coddle them at their age - they must be prepared to face the real world they’re about to enter. But the state of education today is such a joke that even with high school students, teachers are having to handle them with kid gloves and create a false sense of reality. The current education system is causing harm to students - not helping them. Hence, the growing number of teachers choosing to walk away because their moral compass will not allow them to stay and contribute to the destruction. Doing something against your morals and values will eventually cause your physical & mental health to deteriorate (this is what happened to me). I miss teaching, but I don’t miss being a teacher in such a doomed system. Your guest brings up so many crucial points, but there are two that I especially want to endorse as a former high school English teacher. *Students graduating illiterate and innumerate* Honestly, this should make everyone reflect deeply on what our society will look like in the coming years. What will come of a society where most adults cannot read or do basic math? What will come of a society where people cannot think critically or deduce information because they are lacking so many foundational skills - including an understanding of basic words?! I shudder to think about it, but as someone only in my 30s, this impacts my life and my future. As a teacher, I tried to keep the bar high for students and created a classroom community designed to help them learn the content while also preparing them for life (e.g. I had deadlines, I graded for mastery-not completion, I created repositories of resources to which they could refer, etc.). Like your guest, I was told my class was “too hard,” which blew my mind because I was not asking for too much at all. The reality is they were simply not prepared to be high school students, and most of them never had a teacher that taught the curriculum at their grade level (and required them to do work). I eventually had to dumb things down, which went against my moral compass in every way. But the reality is that my juniors and seniors could not read books like The Great Gatsby or Their Eyes Were Watching God because…they could not read. More than this, they did not have the intrinsic motivation to want to learn to read. And those who could read had such a short attention span that they threw a fit upon hearing they’d have to read chapter books. I was heartbroken. My admin eventually made us switch to abridged versions, graphic novels, and short stories (and they didn’t even want to read those…). We also could not expect them to write multipage essays with proper grammar, spelling, or punctuation. We could only grade them on the content of their writing - not the construction. Do you know how INSANE that is?! An English teacher cannot grade them on their writing? The bar continued to drop lower and lower. While I gave in to watering down the curriculum, I stood firm in other expectations - including students being required to do all the work assigned. It didn't have to be perfect, but they needed to at least try. With each passing year, they didn’t even have to be accountable for doing work because their parents would go to admin and complain. So we were forced to pass them if we wanted to keep our jobs. When I finally pushed back against administrators that were forcing me to pass students that never did work, and again, were YEARS below grade level (I’m talking juniors in high school that were reading on a 5th grade level), I was told “they will have a better shot at life with a high school diploma versus without a diploma." I was floored. A high school diploma is meaningless if you don’t meet the requirements to earn one. People can say they have a diploma, but if they can’t read, write or do math, will that diploma help them get a job? When they get to college and are required to take numerous remedial classes before they even begin their prerequisites, does that diploma even mean anything? Furthermore, how is this fair or equitable to students who actually earned their diploma? I had a few students who were present every day, engaged in my lessons, did their work, reviewed my feedback, studied for tests, and overall, were amazing learners that strived for excellence. When applying to colleges, they were competing against all of the students who were just being pushed through the system. How is that okay? It’s not and it’s infuriating! *Lack of resilience & grit* Too many students are lacking the ability to persevere when they encounter even the slightest challenge or uncomfortable situation. I am not blaming the kids for this at all -- I blame the adults in their lives for causing them to become so helpless, sensitive, and riddled with anxiety. For example, you asked your guest about parent interactions - assuming it would be less than elementary or middle school. The truth is that many parents are still babying their kids until they graduate high school. They won’t cut the cord. I constantly had parents emailing me and making excuses for their kids - always wanting to swoop in and solve their problems. For example, a mom emailed me and said that her son should be allowed to retake a test that he completed the month prior! She claimed that he was not in the right headspace when he originally took the test because his team lost a baseball game the night before. He earned a B- on the test, but she was convinced he would've earned an A+ if he wasn't "depressed" over their loss. Thankfully my department chair supported me in telling her that this was not a reason for him to retake a quiz that he already passed. To be clear, my goal was to always partner with parents to ensure their students' ability to succeed. But I also made it clear that their kids were at an age where they needed to stand on their own two feet. They are young adults, not babies - they’re mommies and daddies cannot save them from little thing. Actions have consequences, and I’d rather them learn certain lessons now - when they are in a supportive environment - rather than in the real world where no one is required to coddle or understand them. Some parents received the feedback, but others got incredibly defensive. If we want to keep in 100...a lot of our society's problems are due to a lack of parenting and home training, but that's another conversation... Towards the end of my teaching career, the number of students with anxiety and other emotional issues skyrocketed. They literally have no coping skills and become unraveled when held accountable. Some are arrogant and feel that their teachers have no right to critique them or provide honest feedback on their work. Forget the fact that I've been teaching longer than they've been alive and have a master's degree in my subject area -- they truly felt that they knew better than me. Like your guest said, their lack of respect for elders and they way they communicate with adults is shocking. A lot of them lean into special identities because it makes them feel important and also provides another excuse for why they can't meet an expectation. Again, I ask: what will become of our society if we have young adults that are emotionally unstable and wear victimhood like a badge of honor? What will come of a society where people seek victimhood rather than striving to be victorious over trials and adversities? We're already seeing that employers are firing Gen Z in droves and would rather be understaffed than deal with them. This should be a huge wakeup call. As always, thanks so much for publishing these videos. I feel like we are sounding so many alarms, but not enough people are listening. Perhaps if more people take heed of how serious all of this is, we might have a fighting chance to rescue our society. On the other hand, unless there are drastic cultural and societal shifts (and they must start happening NOW), I don’t see any of this turning around.

[@panban2012]

Very well said 💯

[@benjaminwilson4558]

This was and is the "complete" (amazing) assessment of teaching high school! (And elementary and middle)Thank you SO much! "WE" are in trouble...😮

[@brownsugar2u]

I 100% agree with you. Well said.

[@JevonMusicGroup]

She is spot on! In my middle school, we are now being required to hold restorative justice circles in our classes. I AM NOT A THERAPIST! How about parents start parenting and school admin hold kids accountable for their behavior?

[@KazeShikamaru]

I mean there are some things we can do but for the love of God the parents have a job to do.

[@MagsChase1229]

Elementary too and you exactly said what was in my head. I’m a helper to the teacher, not a teacher. Those restore…circles go on and on. The student gets the talking piece and wastes 4 mins trying to think of something. Other kids interrupt, it takes so long. As we start to work, kids holler at the teacher when the teacher asks them to do their first literacy worksheet of the day. Some other classrooms too. Some children are very well behaved and they suffer by wasted time of misbehaved students. Dean comes in sometimes and other times talks to them. That’s it, if behavior involves throwing something or hitting a student, then a phone call to the parents by the Dean. Those ridiculous modules for restorative practices, take hours, over many days in summer. I can do in the beginning of school year but I’m exhausted and my own kids have sports after school, etc.

[@juniperwool]

What are they going to do when all the teacher's quit?

[@Creaserunner]

Yes, except for when a teacher does something that a child or a parent deems ‘ harmful’ there is zero restorative justice. I’ve tried to hold a few students accountable parents went right to the principal and refused to talk to me. Do you and those times I got written up the third time the parents out there berated me principal said I support you but you gotta be more warm to the children More warm demanding. Unless coaching as she put it because she somehow figures it as a coach that’s all I do is scream at my players. So much for being supportive

[@miss-nomer]

As a parent, if I found out my kids were being subjected to “restorative justice circles” at school, I’d pull them out of that school.

[@miss-nomer]

I can’t imagine how demoralizing it must be for every student in a school where the ones who can’t keep up aren’t able to improve because the coursework is too advanced, and the ones who *can* keep up don’t learn anything because the teachers are too busy trying to dumb it down for the others. What a pointless, futile waste of time and money.

[@JAM661]

Classes should be taught by skill level instead of class by grade. But as a boomer I would be arrested teaching these kids.

[@BoomerTelly]

I was a gifted student who dropped out because the school I was at was dumbing down the coursework for other students. I lost all respect for school and was bored out of my mind.

[@Primalxbeast]

​@JAM661 The grade level used to be the skill level. If kids didn't acquire the skills and do their work, they were held back. They usually didn't fail a grade because their parents wouldn't tolerate them not doing their studies and getting passing grade.

[@sagefields]

We used to have Honors-Average-Basic level classes to accommodate students of all various skill levels. Then someone deemed that racist, or prejudice, or something and now we force students to all adhere to the same level.

[@sharynkoren2054]

@@miss-nomer they used to have special ed class for the slow learners. There was the dreaded principals official _detention hall, indoor suspension and lord help you if your parents got a call from the school about your behavior. Principals could also use a paddle on your smart ass butt. We didnt end up with school shootings student murders etc. Our parents would never allow us to take a gun to school or anywhere. Neighbors reported our had behavior to our parents if we were caught doing wrong. We didnt have all these mental health issues just strict parents and schools that taught us not coddled us. We were taught to function in the world with rules not the world revolve around our entitled asses

[@jakiee]

The scariest thing I get from this series it's the fact that this generation of school-aged children will be America's teachers, doctors, lawyers, and public service workers. Our country is doomed if we don't make some serious changes FAST.

[@miss-nomer]

Yeah, that’s a scary thought. On the plus side, it also sounds like we’re going to have some very intelligent young people who didn’t get a proper education working at McDonalds. So it will definitely improve McDonalds. 😅

[@bettyhill6304]

Rightwingers are gutting public education budgets and diverting funds to religious schools

[@babyvegan432]

@@miss-nomer😂

[@nichellerodriguez1524]

There will be a shortage of professionals.

[@akcalo]

I don't think we will have any of those things by the time they're that age

[@stuartdryer1352]

The cultural problem is that mental health problems are now equated with being sad or "anxious" because you don't get everything you want for nothing. We see it in higher education too. Too often these students are treated with drugs, inappropriately IMHO. And she is right. Our job is to teach a subject. With nuance.

[@carltoncoleman454]

They need to start failing students like they use to. Hold them back in elementary school before they advance. If they get to middle school and high school and are still behind, force them to go to summer school or do credit recovery.

[@maryjanechuckgmail6231]

Agreed, and that they need to change rules regarding attendance and required work. Missing 50 classes or never handing in anything should not give you a credit. Also, get rid of ludicrous methods of teaching reading, writing and math. Wake up and realize that 50 years ago we learned how to read and do simple math. What you are doing today is not working. Don’t even get me started on lack of discipline. If this keeps up, we are in big trouble.

[@mlovmo]

but, but... consequences are mean, triggering, and traumatizing, sir!

[@carltoncoleman454]

@@mlovmo I've experienced failure with being in resource lab (special education) in first grade and second grade, going to summer school between first and second grade, and then getting held back in the second grade. I was also in reading lab through the fifth grade. After awhile, I was in the "gifted and talented program" and graduated high school and college with honors. Today I'm 41 with a PhD! I remember my 5th grade teacher who is now 80 years old taught us how to fail by forcing us to study. She gave us quizzes and tests every week for almost every subject with some subjects having quizzes and tests counting for atleast 90% of the grade. The quizzes were all fill in the blank and short answer. The typical honor students had several C's and D's and the typical C students had nearly straight F's that first quarter. The average was about a D or F for each subject with all but two students earning atleast one D and no one being on the honor roll! I personally had two B's, two C's, a D and an F after coming off of a full year of being on the honor roll in 4th grade. It's important to be taught to fail when it doesn't count so when you are prepared for future courses that do count, you won't fail.

[@slyfox6996]

Credit recovery these days is BS. I work at a title 1 school so it's especially bad but I'd estimate at least 1/2 if not 2/3 of our students have at least 1 APEX course. Also I think we should get rid of any credit recovery at all and have to retake and pass the class but then our grad rates would be abysmal. Apex doesn't teach anything and is more often than not brute forced by students or they intentionally fail because apex is easier and they do it all in a week and then have an entire period for sleep and playing on their phone the rest of the semester.

[@drakeford4860]

As Sly noted above, modern credit recovery is a joke. Otherwise though... this is the answer. If failure has no consequence, success has no value.

[@eastgermanhattrick3330]

As a professor we are already seeing some of these issues in students. A lot of the students get a rude awakening.

[@ElinWinblad]

They are not - you will be told to reduce your reading g list and pass them because they are the ones that bring the money in - dumbing down of America started decades and decades ago

[@bkelsey6692]

As an AA-T transfer, I saw this in JC. Kids in English 2 that can’t write a single paper without grammatical and formatting errors. I also notice a lot of new professors that are teaching courses that they are not qualified to teach, or are qualified based on a CRT-focused humanities degree that has no relevance to the course they are teaching. I am starting my undergrad this semester, and after watching these videos, I am more and more inclined to pursue a masters rather than teach k-12. Simply because I don’t want to be a teacher/therapist. I just want to teach.

[@nobodythenobody9779]

I hope yall dont keep voting blue after this 😂 this what you get

[@s.a.vanvleck45]

Soon your department head will tell you to practice "equity grading" and do what you have to give A's to everyone.

[@cprdnr]

@@nobodythenobody9779President Musk, our second African American president, will be sure to fix everything!

[@DrSueRob]

I retired in December '22 for pretty much every reason she mentioned. Like, I didn't even finish out the year once I became eligible for my pension. Sounds bad but, it was insane. My mental and physical health became more important.

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

Wow... I fear for the future. Who raised these creatures?...

[@nobodythenobody9779]

I hope yall dont keep voting blue after this 😂 this what you get

[@sharynkoren2054]

@@michaelhoudecki3657 and one day they will rule the world...I shutter

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

@ I don't think so - if they don't get fixed soon there will be a 10 year section of society of just useless degenerates. Other cultures have had bad generations - in China the grandma age, a good number of them are just like these kids

[@springerworks002]

@michaelhoudecki3657 Schools stopped educating kids 30 years ago. Why do you only care now?

[@kris78787]

I had a bunch of ese students running amuck around my classroom yesterday. They were kicking other kids and banging on the walls. They would not listen or follow class rules for safety. I had to call the office. The office sent someone down to my room who talked to the students for 5 minutes, then left the room. The students then repeated the same bad behaviors as before. It's insanity!

[@gbd-oq1rz]

These kids are way too far gone. Where are the parents?

[@shanedavison7473]

My brother in law quit as a teacher over 20 years ago because he couldn't deal with out of control kids. Now he is a Disney artist.

[@kathaiti]

Wait, 20 years ago? So this has been a problem for many years...

[@KathrynStrube]

OMgosh she is me!! I taught science for 16 years and left because of the social emotional learning, gender identity, lying to parents, no discipline, etc. Sad, isn't it?

[@billybob-tl2tb]

No child left behind! The buzz words! Tracking! The trends! She is correct.

[@nobodythenobody9779]

Stop voting blue lol 😆

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@nobodythenobody9779No Child Left Behind was created by a redneck.

[@billybob-tl2tb]

@ Are you sure that I voted blue? You mean I backed the blue movement for as Law Enforcement?

[@CarobMarcelle]

My son came home and said “mom, I feel like the dad in the room that looks at the kids and says, I’m not mad at you I’m just so so disappointed” this shouldn’t be the highschool experience.

[@markkatain7891]

Thank you so much for your videos, Trish. It is so validating to know I'm not the only one who feels this way about teaching right now. Your channel really has helped me process and accept the realities of what we're dealing with in the classroom. I've been teaching middle school for 15 years now, and I've watched so many things negatively change without being to stop it. The days of being able to captivate a classroom full of kids and take them on a learning journey are over. I don't know what it'll take to fix this or if it can be fixed at all at this point. I appreciate your videos for helping me along the way these past few years. Thank you!

[@katieandnick4113]

It can’t be fixed, and acceptance is key. You go to work to make money so you can pay your bills. If you aren’t able to continue doing it, you try to figure out if there are any alternatives, even if they seem irresponsible or short sighted. Possibly, humanity’s greatest downfall is our obsessive need to “fix” every perceived problem we encounter, without ever truly understanding where it comes from. This results in bandaids being slapped on gaping, gushing wounds and called “cures”. Also consider what public, compulsory education was always really about. It was about making people smart enough to operate the means of production owned by capitalists and oligarchs. That’s it! Sure, we were told it was about all of these wonderful things that would make our lives objectively better, but they had to say that in order for kids and their parents to take it seriously. Turns out, there’s only so much work an owner can get out of his slaves when the slaves know that they’re working only for the benefit of their owners. But when the slaves become convinced that they are working for their own benefit, they push themselves so much harder. So now that the capitalists have automation and are closing in on AI/robots that can operate without the help of human workers, education that is meant to prepare children for “fulfilling careers” no longer makes economic sense. The capitalist class and oligarchs absolutely hate that any money is spent at all on education, but they’ve also understood that it was necessary for their businesses, so they accepted it begrudgingly. To be clear, capitalists/oligarchs don’t believe the money they pay us is our money, and they have good reason for thinking that way. After all, we do eventually give everything back to them anyway. When people have to pay property taxes to fund schools, that’s less money they have to spend on the goods and services produced by the owners of the means of production. There are other ways in which under funding education benefits, economically, the capitalist class, and at the end of the day, they are ecstatic that public education will soon no longer be something that has money spent on it.

[@babyvegan432]

@@katieandnick4113 That was one of the most brilliant comments about the current state of education I have ever heard. 🎉

[@cprdnr]

@@katieandnick4113 Capitalist /Oligarchs don’t need dumb broke Americans anymore. They cater to the super rich in other countries.

[@startrekperson]

Gen Z absolutely weaponizes mental health. I see it in college now.

[@s.a.vanvleck45]

Also politics, entertainment, interpersonal relations.

[@Patson20]

I'm a cop, and it's hilarious when they try it on us to get out of trouble. Like oh you're having bad anxiety right now? Awww I don't care you still punched that guy in the face so you're going to jail. Then you'll have something to be anxious about. Were often the first taste of real consequences they face in life and its great.

[@panban2012]

@@Patson20 Another awesome comment ! I see many of those body cam videos on YT, and enjoy these self-diagnosed fools getting their just rewards with felony charges. 😂

[@JohnKing-yr7xn]

Are you CPD?​@@Patson20? I ask because we had a Blue haired "they/them" punch another person in my restaurant because they wouldn't submit to their pronoun whims. And they said exactly what you said when the police came to arrest them. If not the same cop (or one of the 3 that arrived). Then this was an eery coincidence.

[@margiedenavarre7919]

She is SO right about the need to separate by ability.

[@niningsetia4213]

First!👌🏿

[@niningsetia4213]

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[@kathleenscarborough5481]

The kids who behave, do the work, and need extra stimulation are invariably the ones who lose out.

[@1tsar]

I'm currently fighting my principal and my School District for the right to hold my students' spelling and grammar accountable. My principal tried to stop me from doing it because "it's unfair to students." It's ridiculous and the atrocious current spelling of the students tells everyone that they are not improving their language skills. The kids cannot write full sentences, properly capitalize, punctuate, etc. Their parts of speech is off, figurative language is foreign to them, and they don't read, so their imaginations are moot. I see my middle schoolers reading the same book over and over again while the library mainly purchases graphic novels versus actual worded novels without pictures. The "big books" as they were described are just not "catching interest." Naturally, that blew my mind, as I cannot fathom students not reading every week of something they find interesting. The phones are poison, social media is cancer, and student attention span is at an all-time low. Given also that none of my other colleagues assign homework, students are on the laptops all day in all core classes except mine. When are these kids growing academically???? I feel like a lone wolf! Makes me want to leave. I'm the only teacher who is old school in technique and makes them write every single day. No technology is allowed in my classroom. I assign homework every day in moderation, and yet it's an uphill battle every single day to get students responsible enough to keep up with the load. Teaching should not be where the teacher makes concessions because students stop doing things. School definitely changed since I was a student myself. It's scary!

[@slyfox6996]

I teach remedial math (math for college liberal arts) and AP physics, weird mix I know, but I require students to answer in full sentences when I can sometimes and I do take points off. Luckily no admin has reprimanded me for it... yet. Didn't read the rest ngl but I'm sure it's more valid points.

[@bkelsey6692]

Keep fighting the good fight. Us future teachers need teachers like you.

[@edoboleyn]

This is terrifying.

[@Patson20]

Yall don't wanna hear it but this is squarely the result of Democrat support and policy

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

I tutored some students who (along with their parents) frequently told me that their teachers hardly gave them any homework. Homework has been questioned often, especially in the 21st Century, as to its true value in terms of assisting in student learning effectively. But the fact that there are schools now (public and private) that skimp on homework and instead make classwork and tests the sole means of student evaluation means that students' abilities to learn independently in the slightest have faltered heavily. Some of those students I tutored told me that their teachers did not allow the students to finish their incomplete classwork for homework, and that they as a class would instead return to working on it in class in the days that followed. Which means that all student work literally stayed at school and was never brought home. Just like how many public schools that still use hardbound textbooks as opposed to online textbooks require students to leave their textbooks at school so that they don't lose them outside of school and cause the district to have to pay for new ones. So if students like those of mine in fact are never required to do any academic work at home anymore, then their ability to work on anything independently without the teacher's guiding hand by their side during every minute of their learning has officially disappeared forever!

[@Jessicad9304]

I think the problem in America (with kids and adults) is our entitlement and egos have become completely off the charts. After generations of propaganda that we are the best, people have forgotten that working hard is still required. It’s getting worse with this coming generation but I’ve seen entitlement problems in the boomers and millennials too. I’m a millennial and had to work on myself a lot because I was raised by entitled adults who just told me I was really smart and the best and our country is the best. It’s been such a long journey. Also our parents are acting like friends so the distinction between child and adult is essentially not there, and there’s very little respect for authority. You have to be a child’s parent, not a friend, and you have to be a good person yourself first in order for them to respect you and believe what you say.

[@dfs20111984]

Seems the whole point of education now is to remove hard work and struggle. It's completely backwards.

[@mscbs321]

I totally understand the using “big words” thing. There were several students in my class last year who would basically make fun of me and say things like “that’s not even a word” and laugh and then get others on board. They also would get mad and accuse me of insulting them if I used a word they didn’t understand. I would have to go through how we learn by hearing it used or we can ask questions because we can express meaning more clearly through the right word choice. They acted like I was crazy and these were typically well-known words. I’ve taught for a while so I know what level of words can go completely over a kids head but these were not them. It was more the rudeness and insults that really upset me about the situation.

[@nichellerodriguez1524]

I had to deal with this in a 6th Grade Honors class. Low expectations for themselves. They're okay with it. #dumbingdownofAmerica

[@thetruthwillsetyoufree891]

They’re just dumb plain stupidity.

[@Wifeyedition]

they were clearly insecure

[@fishofgold6553]

Can you give a few examples of well-known words the students laughed over? I want to know just how clueless those kids are. 😅

[@mscbs321]

@ Umm, it's hard to think about specific examples because it happened so often but let me think. Hmm, the ones I can think of are frantic, intricate, perplexed, iconic, erosion (as a metaphor), timid, model (as an adjective), wretched, oblivious, fortitude, lament, quarrel, etc. At least those stand out because they flat-out said they aren't words with total confidence. For reference, I teach 5th grade and have taught for 16 years, and this kind of thing didn't used to happen. They either used context clues or responded by *gasp* asking what the word meant. It's not so much not knowing the words that blows my mind but the reaction. The instinct to tell me I am wrong without checking or even feeling rude/out of line. They have always been told that they are always right, sheltered from any challenge, and that they can freely challenge anyone that makes them feel challenged. Frankly, it's pretty sad, as learning something you didn't know or having lively conversations can be exciting. Honestly, I think many kids are extremely depressed and have no idea what to do when they don't know something.

[@rebelteacher]

Her comments on reading and differentiation are excellent. I teach in a private school where we are frequently discussing the kids at the bottom, but we are never asking how we are meeting the needs of the top students. We need more people speaking out about this!

[@ruthpierre]

I agree with her 110%. If I’m responsible for your child’s mental health, what about my mental health? There are 18 plus students in the classroom with different mental status.

[@chinyelundubisi9985]

For REAL! I'm trying to preserve my mental health, let alone somebody else's all while TEACHING and ASSESSING students.😅

[@kris78787]

I have up to 40 students in my classes! It's ridiculous

[@ruthpierre]

@@chinyelundubisi9985 The incentives are not enough.

[@07Flash11MRC]

Well, I quit teaching for my mental health, lol. I make much more now doing just IT / software developement.

[@Mysticmegster1]

How many times have the rest of us felt anxious or depressed, but we still had to show up to class - and to work? A lot. But we still did it

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

I was depressed when I was 9. My grades were very good despite everything. Nobody even knew I was depressed (I think).

[@notreallyafamousartist695]

How many of them kts’s because of it? But that’s cool too right

[@cindymichel4870]

I'm guessing not too many. But at some point if you expect to be an adult and have a job, you need to grow up and get over it.​@@notreallyafamousartist695

[@miss-nomer]

Eventually we all learn the value of crying in the shower 😅

[@twbicknell8819]

Yup, my 13 year old tries to use it as an excuse.. I ask if she thinks she's the only one that feels that way, then I remind her that's what it's like for everyone, and you still have to push through.

[@johnnyboyvan]

What a great 👍 interview. She shared the truth with specific examples. She is the type of person we need in administration. Hopefully she will stay in some form in education.

[@Nina_Olivia]

The tragedy of all this identity /self labelling nonsense is that the world is losing really good teachers.

[@07Flash11MRC]

Oh, well... Let AI teach kids. At least kids can't assäult it.

[@Nina_Olivia]

@ It may even come to that.

[@jessykaiser6373]

28-Year Veteran Teacher Here ~ Many if not most kids will manipulate the situation if you let them by “accommodating “. Very few are old souls who will thank you & happily learn. YOU, the adult, MUST BE the Alpha & LEAD with discipline & guidance .. not coddling. Our system worked when kids & parents were held accountable.

[@billybob-tl2tb]

Differential instruction is a joke. If standardized tests are not differential, how can the classroom have it with the curriculum that is used.

[@J-Nice305]

Modern day teaching (public school) must be the hardest job here in the U.S. Minimum salaries should start at $100k!

[@TrevorHamberger]

Public schooling should be outlawed as the unconstitutional boondoggle that it is

[@bkelsey6692]

In addition, admin salaries should go DOWN at least 20k.

[@tayachting6345]

They shouldn't be. Wages need to come down. MOney isn't the problem for a lot of teachers, including myself. It's the feckless admin and how they deal with entitled feckless students.

[@RC.-]

That would inflate everything. Not even nurses or vets make 100k, on average

[@TrevorHamberger]

@RC.- the only way the government can move forward is by printing more money out of thin air. It's not even possible to stop inflation. The only thing the government can do is print more money.

[@Dr.Sharron]

We can learn one thing from these crazies. As I keep saying teachers need to protest, file charges when warranted, and file lawsuits when required.

[@babyvegan432]

Never going to happen because most teachers are so gaslighted that they have drunk the kook-aid. They believe it starts and ends with them, instead of the system and parents

[@artteacher5589]

There is little support for teachers. In my state we have tried to petition, file lawsuits and fight for what is right. We have since learned that our court systems are compromised. Judges are bought, and school boards are paid off. This is a specific design set up to create an ignorant generation. . .smh

[@Diesel3356]

You are an excellent interviewer. You ask a question and you give the interviewee the opportunity to fully answer the question without interrupting. Your questions and followup questions are spot on. You clearly do your homework before your podcasts.

[@JoelUldrych-kh2sc]

I would have liked having this teacher in my day. She seems very intelligent and caring about actually teaching the children.

[@chinyelundubisi9985]

So TRUE. Having taught abroad, I found this generation of American students almost diabolical! It was not conducive to my overall wellness honestly.

[@TrevorHamberger]

They are pure 100% evil.

[@m.r.e.5731]

I started my attention as a second career in the Middle East, and the kids were very eager to learn. I thought, easy peasy! I'm going back to America middle school. I was. So very shocked and all my lasted a year. The kids were so horrible to me. Remedial reading class And this was 15 years ago. I can only imagine how bad it is now. I WEEP for the future.

[@YOURMOM-mu2yv]

Won’t matter soon because the birth rate is below replacement levels

[@IvanPhotoProductions]

All of what Daisy discussed is accurate. I too do not understand what has happened to our students, parents, and what is expected of teachers, especially those new to the trenches. These stories validates what I've been experiencing and had to leave my lifelong dream due to the volatile and unstable education world that it is now.

[@Patson20]

You voted for left wing policies that literally stated that these policies were the goal and now you're surprised how they worked when everyone else told you this would happen. The entire left wing philosophy is focused on removing responsibility from the individual, worshipping the victim and putting it all on the government.....and as a government employee that's you.

[@JAM661]

As a boomer I would probably be arrested if I had to deal with these kids. But just passing kids is just make kids get further behind and feel worse about themselves. Basically we let these kids be victims over nothing.But classes should be by levels instead of age.

[@acarpen0]

As an Aussie high school teacher I wish I could agree with this but I'm afraid a lot of the same issues are festering here - SEL, restorative justice, identity obsession plus functional illiteracy and blatant disrespect. Of course it does vary by school and I've worked in some great ones but I've also worked at ones where I've been called every name under the sun, been threatened and assaulted etc. Not surprisingly there's huge apathy amongst admin at these schools and a tendency to blame the teacher while absolving the little angels of any responsibility let alone giving any consequences. So, I'm afraid we're going the same way. Solidarity to you US teachers!

[@TeacherTherapy]

I'd love to interview you one day! 💙

[@JulieEnglert-cj1hv]

I am an Australian teacher too, at the tail end of my working life. I am a primary (elementary) trained teacher, and have had some really bad experiences over the years. At the moment I do substitute teaching at a high school I feel comfortable in. There is a reason I do substitute teaching…

[@travisjones640]

There’s a huge issue with SEL. School counselor here! SEL has many benefits, but it’s often done wrong. It siding be about turning kids into snowflakes, it should be to teach them skills to handle challenges

[@mzcyberbat]

I have had 2 mum friends with kids that have identity issues. It's rediculous how obsessed they are with labels. But maybe we all were ans it just wasn't spread because no internet back then . Our Aussie schools have plenty of horrible rough, disrespectful kids. Parents are not any better.

[@ChickityChicken]

100%. I quit after a 13 year stint in the industry. Doing a low wage job now but its better than being abused by teenagers everyday.

[@chinyelundubisi9985]

The fact that teachers should even have to keep up with teenagers' sexual identity in a supposedly academic focused setting is mind boggling to me! It was hard for me to remember documented names with a 100+ student roster, let alone aliases and pronouns at any given time. It's A LOT!

[@Mrs_Homemaker]

The idea that adults should know about a child's sexual ANYTHING is absolutely dangerous for everyone involved.

[@juiceweezer]

Learned Helplessness is so real.

[@MrVocalist567]

I'm not a student or a teacher just a lifelong learner and I love these interviews. This one in particular stood out because Agent Daisy is very very smart and sensible and her insight on international students stood out to me. I sure hate she got put through the ringer.

[@segunshona6823]

I am actually happy to see a teacher own up to the reality of achieving quality differentiation in class.

[@Dstar5me]

OMG….Same!

[@Primalxbeast]

I had never heard the term before. It sounds as if schools are absolute chaos these days. If they aren't on that grade level, they shouldn't be in that grade.

[@sharylanne7738]

I’m the business manager at a school and I love your videos even though I don’t work directly with students.

[@enigmathegrayman2953]

Forming a list to see what teachers are most vulnerable and likely to quit is just predatory!

[@TeacherTherapy]

Yes! This proves that these students know *exactly* what they're doing! 😭

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

They have the same mentality as the administrators who want to be the students' friends. It's all a lethal numbers game with the admin. and students ultimately controlling the joystick side by side.

[@hrafnkolbrandr]

It's not an education crisis, it's a parenting crisis.

[@DJYC21215]

What parents?

[@robmatheny2412]

It’s a capitalism crisis.

[@stephanie_smith]

It's both simultaneously...absentee parents and administration choosing to not administered consequences are the very sad reality of how they are not setting these kids up for success!

[@gbd-oq1rz]

@@stephanie_smithsetting up to be lazy and dumb

[@cprdnr]

It’s also a national security crisis. Americans will be (are now) too stupid to run their own country!

[@xiiguardian]

The differentiation part really speaks to me. I was a teacher for seven years. I taught high school physics. 11th and 12th grade. I would get students who can’t read or do basic arithmetic. I cannot teach you physics when you can’t add and subtract and multiply and divide. If you don’t know how to work fractions or decimals, I can’t help you. I am not trained in how to teach someone rudimentary math. I’m trained in how to teach someone physics or chemistry or physical science. those are the subjects I’m trained in. If I wanted to teach basic math, I would have taught middle school. I had mini students who had no idea how to calculate the slope of a line on a graph. That is literally the first standard in algebra one. Which students take three years before they get to me.

[@txspacemom765]

THIS! Middle school and upper level educators should not be expected to re-teach, let alone, dumb down the curriculum at those levels. I was yelled at by an admin because I refused to teach kids in a 9th grade biology class how to write basic sentences for their labs.

[@gaelledr2213]

Inmates are running the asylum.

[@TrevorHamberger]

The entire goal of John Dewey was to turn the education system into the asylum itself. That's the reason they got rid of the asylums. They became the schools

[@s.a.vanvleck45]

No, fatcat teachers union bosses are, and you end up with lunacy.

[@travisjones640]

@@s.a.vanvleck45both true

[@travisjones640]

@@s.a.vanvleck45don’t forget sat at district admin

[@shadyimslebi]

I am an Elementary Education major in college. I chose this major being really excited about working with kids in elementary school ages but discovered later that working in traditional education is not the path for me. I kept my major and I am an intern at an after school facility…..and let me tell you I cried on my first week and felt like I was not capable, the kids who are ages 6-8 cursed at me, screamed in my face, all ages can be problematic. Your channel has helped me cope with this, listening to teachers with so many years of experience feeling the exact things I felt. I hope my internship goes by fast, I will not be seen working in any type of educational setting in my life. My respect to all of you who get up and teach everyday, it truly is the hardest job.

[@SarahAnnBellham]

I agree with students wearing uniforms. It changes a lot(I'm not a teacher). I wore them from 1st to 8th. America hasn't been this bad in the past. It's just worse than it's been before.

[@snowps1]

I agree. My kids went to Catholic school for 7 years and I loved them wearing uniforms. There was zero drama or stress about getting dressed everyday. And there was no social pressure to wear certain brands, etc.

[@jeneal7600]

Her comments on school differentiation are what really hits home. It is hard to differentiate when you have a 2nd and 3rd grade class when you have them all day. I can’t imagine even attempting it in High School when you have them for an hour. It’s just ridiculous. It’s also typical of admin at all levels to tell you what to do and not provide any way it can actually happen.

[@chinyelundubisi9985]

👉🏾 That part.

[@babyvegan432]

Because the admins know it’s impossible, which is why they stopped teaching. lol

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@babyvegan432 If they were ever even teachers to begin with!

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Many admin. are dreamers. They treat their schools like businesses and display a nasty corporate attitude every step of the way. Nothing gets achieved as a result.

[@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575]

The story many don't want to address is the lack of services and resources for immigrant children who speak ZERO English, but teachers are expected to just figure it out. Everyone loses in this scenario.

[@bartlebyscrivener674]

I will NEVER understand why they don't give those kids just a year of deep dive language learning, rather than attempt to keep them in a particular grade level. Like, HALF the day language, the other half could be some other subjects, but taught bilingual, so they could actually learn it. When they stick a kid who just arrived, who not only doesn't speak English, but may not even be literate in their own language, they are just wasting EVERYONE'S time.

[@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575]

Me either! My husband teaches 9th grade ELA and they expect him to create a plan that includes these students. How can he teach kids The Odyssey when they can't understand the language he's teaching it in. They somehow make it an equity issue, which is why they won't put them in their own class, but again, it creates a nearly unmanageable environment for all the learners in theses classes. Mind you, these classes also include English speaking students who aren't really at grade level. ​@@bartlebyscrivener674

[@babyvegan432]

@@bartlebyscrivener674 One of the biggest mistakes in education is trying to place kids in classes by their ages instead of their abilities.

[@thetruthwillsetyoufree891]

@@babyvegan432Well said 👏

[@cprdnr]

@@bartlebyscrivener674Yes, I agree…AND American English speaking students need phonics, spelling and grammar too!

[@johntheprophet5833]

I’m homeschooling my kid and never looking back. Public school is teacher abuse.

[@jenniferhittle799]

I'm dealing with a class of students that were proud of getting a teacher to quit last year. It's so disheartening.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Keep an eye on these pupils. You might be next. Fair warning. Hopefully they won't do that to you.

[@jenniferhittle799]

​@@munimathbypeterfelton6251they have definitely been putting me through a lot of grief. I've never had to call home so often or give as many detentions as I am this year

[@therealtoni]

When the best and the brightest, like this woman, (And Trish) are driven out of teaching, American education is in grave trouble!

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Yet American education has dug itself into that early grave!

[@grahambell8760]

In Special Ed, I would not want to put a kid in a class if he could not read within two grade levels of the class. The idea that a teacher can "differentiate" 2-12th grade reading levels is just absurd.

[@shortstraw4]

She is anonymous because she is worried about being cancelled for speaking her mind. The party of progressivism isn't about free thought anymore

[@chinyelundubisi9985]

Half of these administrators (if not more) are just trying to keep their relatively higher paying jobs, in a comfortable non-classroom setting, setting up smoke and mirrors around what's truly going on for their teachers and students imo.

[@babyvegan432]

Bingo! 💯

[@stephanie_smith]

Yup yup and yup!!

[@TrevorHamberger]

Yeah well when the dollar crashes they're screwed

[@kungfumartialarts]

Very intelligent teacher. It is too bad the school lost her. Parents and students do not realize their loses. Sad to lose a good hearted teacher.

[@bartlebyscrivener674]

This is so spot on it hurts. On every single point.

[@ChocoBeauty8]

I agree with Daisy that Gen Z and Gen Alpha are definitely obsessed with mental health labels. It appears that whatever is trending on social media becomes contagious in schools.

[@Patson20]

Left wing politicians and activists have encouraged it as a way of being "diverse" while not being "diverse" and as a way for the "diverse" to be even more "diverse". On the very left spaces your level of victimhood determines your status. This is why you'll see them one upping each other on their diagnosises, and why they rattle off their niche sexualities and diagnosis before even getting to their name when meeting someone. Saying I'm a non Binary trans pansexual with BPD, anxiety, and PTSD who's name is Xander is equivalent to saying hello I'm DR. CEO lord admiral Phillip, Duke of earl to them

[@panban2012]

@@Patson20 Excellent comment and hilarious analogy at the end. 😂 Well said 🎯

[@Patson20]

@panban2012 dang KZbin already censored my comment 🤣

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Hence the reason TikTok became banned. All of those violent challenges provoked by the network itself that child-age TikTok users have partaken in over the years have literally physically damaged schools, teachers, other students, all for the sake of getting a video Like, comment, follower, etc. on a stupid social media network that should never have been created in the first place!

[@hillerm]

They tried to make us restorative justice circles in my old school. We went through all these trainings and then the school gave up on it about a month later.

[@craignedoff991]

When the center of your world is therapy and medications, at 12 years old, either you're from a war zone, literally, or you have single, permissive, facilitating parenting infantilizing you.

[@Patson20]

Kids who experienced actual trauma in war zones learned how to deal with it. These kids are caught up in a system that rewards and encourages never getting better because victimhood is currency and drugs make profits go up.

[@Ravenelvenlady]

All signs of the fall of Babylon/Rome.

[@Patson20]

All thanks to the left

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@Patson20Trump is on the far right.

[@Patson20]

@munimathbypeterfelton6251 explain how, and then explain why that's any worse than the lefts policies giving teachers PTSD, getting them repeatedly physically attacked by students and kids graduating while still illiterate?

[@urbanmovingsystemsltd.5982]

Your channel has helped me solidify my decision to homeschool my children

[@SBlack-gy3zx]

I was one of those "higher performing" students in high school (class of 2017.) Being steeped in chaos, violence, and the other students' intentional efforts to keep teachers from teaching really was a kind of low-level hell for me. It was a constant stream of insanity on a daily basis. I saw kids riot, physically attack teachers, make teachers cry, etc. Every day at lunch, there had to be a food fight. More often than not, kids would throw chairs aimlessly into the crowd during the food fights (so I started eating lunch in a very kind teacher's office.) Even the few classes that were relatively calm made me worried about my own future, because I knew that my own learning was being stifled. I would sit there, in a 12th grade classroom, mentally numb, as my classmates would read books/assignments out loud as slowly as 6 or 7-year-olds. Keep in mind, these were all AP and Honors courses! Here's one story: I did Dual Enrollment in my senior year to start earning college credits, and administration was "selective" about which students were allowed to enroll in the program. Still, most of my classmates (three of them were especially heinous) started to bring the insanity to the college courses. I felt awful for the professors, who were clearly freaked out at seeing that kind of chaotic and aggressive behavior from "top students." And I felt cheated, because I signed up for a college class, and those kids were stopping me from getting that experience. I got so sick of it, I started reporting them (the three worst ones) to administration, who actually did talk with the students! But alas, those students made a good guess as to who reported them and decided that their next move would be to threaten, in front of a professor and our entire class, to just kick my ass. I think they were trying to incite me to stand up and throw the first punch, so that they'd have a "reason" to beat me up in "self defense." So, I just continued to read my textbook, never looking at them or acknowledging what was happening. After a few minutes of holding the entire class' attention to loudly and directly threaten me, they gave up. Obviously, I reported them, again. Somehow, this wasn't enough to just get them kicked out, but after one of them coming to me, crying, asking why I was trying to "ruin her future," their behavior started to clear up! I hate to call my high school experience "traumatic," but... it really was. And that dual enrollment story is just a drop in the bucket. Even today, almost ten years later, I feel panicked just thinking about those years. Awful. Every day just scary, loud, and awful.

[@alexs6250]

Being nervous because you didn't study is not a pathology

[@timetravelkitty425]

See this is exactly how I expected America to line up with the rest of the globe. So focused on individualism that education is secondary. I’m def homeschooling 😂 I had decided that when I was pregnant in 2022, but now I’m reallllllly set on it. At least for most of the subjects, once she’s a little bigger and has gotten through some of her identity forming years I’ll use the homeschooling classes they have at the schools here for certain subjects for the social aspect. I live in Vermont, a very liberal state and I’ve noticed that liberal states are tending to have the most educational problems due to bad behavior and leaving parents out of decisions regarding their own kids. This channel is so helpful for us parents who are very concerned about their child’s education and don’t plan to dump the expectations on a teacher. They already aren’t paid enough. Y’all are the unsung heroes 😂🙏🙏❤

[@kcc879]

oh that anxiety and depression thing that is used to say they're not going to class or handing in assessments drives me crazy! And to have their parents on board is empowering the student to not work thru and push ahead or at least try...

[@christianbolt5761]

The lack of discipline and coddling of these kids is ruining their future. We are living in a perfect storm of phones, social media, woke nonsense, and sick educational administrations. I’m so happy that I chose to go into industry instead of teaching.

[@vinci2.041]

Don't forget that they want "positive reinforcement" to mitigate mischievous or high risk students. If you tell off/ reprimand a student they call it "confrontation"

[@bloodysweetzombiegirl]

Because everything in the real world is sooooo positive. People will always be standing by with a timer and treat. 🤦‍♀️

[@vinci2.041]

@bloodysweetzombiegirl Real 💯

[@colinclement2752]

Ithink people (especially young people) utilize "mental health" as an excuse too not do work.

[@alexs6250]

It never comes up except if they dint want to study , turn in homework or do exams.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

And no doctor's or licensed therapist's note indicating such mental conditions = no special support services necessary (provided exclusively by teachers) at school!

[@angiemd8920]

We have children who are writing lines of text in K and children who are in diapers in the same room... same thing as this teacher. I cannot accommodate for the diaper kid. I can accommodate a group for kids who are learning their sight words, but I cannot stop my class to change a diaper. Ridiculous!

[@jeneal7600]

This is so true and so crazy. When I started 32 years ago,if a rare child wasn’t potty trained at 5, we were looking at the possibilities of that child needing Special Ed. services, which those kids generally did. When I retired last year it was routine to have 1-3 intellectually average kids who weren’t potty trained in k. 504 plans were put in place yearly for the teacher to potty train them. This type of behavior has gotten to the level of unsustainable.

[@angiemd8920]

@@jeneal7600and the worst thing about this is that admin think that you're able to do that, want to risk your job by doing that (lord knows what kids will say at home), and they help the parent keep dodging a responsibility they've been dodging for years.

[@jefesalsero]

Diapered and probably in need of sedation.

[@cprdnr]

I agree! (by the way, I hope the kids are being taught PHONICS along with the sight words)

[@celestialcircledance]

I admire her boundaries around her personal time and what was out of her scope of practice so that at least she didn't get run ragged . You can only change what you can change and accept what is beyond your control !

[@leamartin5672]

Daisy, I loved how you said that students don't have any accountability. I think that is the crux of the problem. Well, that and admin caters to parents. I have a short anecdote. One of my last years of teaching in every staff meeting the principal would deliver a Polly Anna sermon. (This is middle school btw) The principal would address any concerns about student behavior issues with: "Students want to succeed in school and they want to behave well, they just don't know how. Make sure you teach them how". So in those two sentences all responsibility for academics and behaviors is taken from students and their parents placed squarely on the teachers.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Exactly! The whole bs notion that students "want to learn", "want to behave", "want to succeed", but supposedly "don't know how to" is a prime example of toxic positivity in schools. Anytime anybody actually wants to do or achieve something, they will willingly work for it! Expecting others to do it for you/them is utter entitlement and nothing more!

[@thestandardrlc]

I teach HS. I HATE that they have us doing SEL (Social & Emotional Learning). That's not my job and it's not what I'm trained for.

[@SarahAnnBellham]

Yeah, nope! "I'm here to teach." No teacher has had put up with any of this crap before. The events from the past 10-15 years have changed that, I mean the WHOLE landscape.😵‍💫

[@dfs20111984]

They are soft. It's programmed weakness.

[@humakuwah4649]

Wow one assignment a week that was due on Friday, at midnight. Its really bad for teachers when they reach the point wherein they have to tell themselves, I am not going to fight a child. Last year I was making my way through Union Station after returning from the MDOT to change my out-of-state license. As I was walking to the escalator after buying a snack on the lower level, I passed a group of grade schoolers or early years high schoolers, and one of the males deliberately took a step back so that he and I would make contact. Although I turned my body slightly to reduce the amount of contact, that I knew was coming, we made light contact. I patted him on his left shoulder, as I was moving pass him, thinking I was lightening his mood and erroneous thinking, and kept walking. The boy did a half turn towards me but fearing to make eye contact with me and said "Don't put your f@#$ing hands on me." I stopped and turned wholly towards him as he and his peers began slowly walking off in the opposite direction, and said 'Well do not obstruct the walkway that people have to pass through'. I knew younger people in the U.S. had already entered the way to waywardness before I began traveling abroad full time. But I did not know the wayward level had become this advanced. I knew this was coming (not this quickly) and postponed having children in the U.S. to precisely think this subject matter out. From what I have been learning from local news outlets covering this subject matter and now your video interviews, Admin. [school board/board of directors] do not care and are seeking to pass the blame onto the teachers. Great discussions, Trish. I had no idea what has been going on in the U.S. schools between the teachers and students. Having your channel show up in my recommendations was most appreciated. Liked & Subscribed {a week or two ago}.

[@OutragedPufferfish]

This is a talk I enjoyed. Some of them are boring, this is one of the good ones. 👍🏻

[@babyvegan432]

None are boing

[@OutragedPufferfish]

@babyvegan432 I think some of them are.

[@Rockerlady]

I am so glad your guest mentioned the issue of disclosing identity. It is insane to expect teachers to keep secrets from parents such as gender identity. I support the LGBT community, but it is not an adult teacher's responsibility to withhold such information from parents. What if a student is suicidal and the parent finds out their child's math teacher knew about their gender identity, but not the parents? The legal and emotional consequences are astounding. Are teachers being shunned or even fired (such as new probationary staff) for not going along with this?

[@KazeShikamaru]

But it is also not our job to be a snitch. I ain't saying shit to a parent. That's their business.

[@Rockerlady]

Of course. However, a parent may contact you to ask. Are you going to be honest?

[@DavidGlover-s7x]

14 years in the classroom. Started in the mid-90's. Left for a time and came back in 2013. By 2020 the culture had drastically changed for the worse.

[@nursejoed]

It's also Gen Z teaching staff who call out at the drop of a hat. (Often adding onto a weekend or vacation week.) It's often framed as a "mental health" issue. The problem is, a lot of people conflate the fact that you may have to do something you don't like or want to do as a mental health issue...

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

That happened to me at my last job. My Gen Z coworkers were constantly calling out at the drop of a hat leaving the rest of us short staffed day after day. Before too long I confronted my manager about this “trend” and told him that it was becoming impossible for me to do my job properly with multiple people calling out each day. He continually told me “There’s nothing I can do.” He was a Boomer; I am a Millennial. Needless to say, I quit that job after less than a year, especially when he started scapegoating me and punishing me for the results of my absent coworkers’ shortcomings by dumping more responsibilities on my lap “because no one else could do them.”

[@nursejoed]

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Yup. The "suckers-who-show-up" get repeatedly dumped on at work.

[@tanishac87]

They want us to be everything but the teacher....It is so stressful!

[@orchider143]

Being resilient is a decision one makes and it is very important to your success and happiness. The only way to become resilient is to experience adversities and overcome them. No amount of therapy or education can accomplish this. You live, experience and grow. There is no other way. The younger people have been brainwashed into thinking there is a magic protocol or pill that can accomplish this. Happiness will not exist without dealing with the unpleasant circumstances in life. I really wonder how people 40, 50, 100, 200 years ago endured severe hardship, disappointments and even made poor choices but afterwards still excelled in life. It seems we are being taught to be inadequate.

[@LadyCoyKoi]

Not just Gen Z, it festers into Gen Alpha too.Older Gen Alpha are obsessed with pronouns and with labels of all types. They also have a nasty attitude that is disrespectful and uncalled for. It is a competition who can make the teachers' job the hardest. These types of students are getting alarmingly younger too. The best thing to do is for all teachers to get up and leave these places of torment. Let us see what these entitled parents will do when they run out of teachers to assert their power and control obsession. No more abuse, because there is no one to abuse in the first place.

[@KazeShikamaru]

My issue with them regarding this is they don't understand why that stuff is important. They just think "Lol I can be a girl one day and a boy the next day."

[@Patson20]

The problem is you'll just be replaced with an activist that knows even less and will encourage them to be even worse. And sure it's not your problem.....until they graduate and become your neighbor, your employee, your coworkers, and eventually your senator and first responders

[@ebert8756]

If you're asking them to think , thatll make your class "hard" too

[@billybob-tl2tb]

She is correct about accountability and accommodations

[@chestersdad07]

The social and emotional learning trend and a laser sharp focus on identities, self esteem and a need to 'feel good' is such a failure because the students are seeing their own teachers feeling degraded, constantly criticised and working in a hostile environment that cares little for their own mental health and wellbeing. I was once a teacher with an anxiety disorder (but didn't tell everybody or wear it as an identity) and what hurts the most is that students will remember seeing how hostile the environment was to me and how I eventually broke. Surely seeing the wellbeing of teachers being actively undermined would be enough for students to see through the smoke and mirrors of SEL learning. I only healed because I went into a new profession (well, not entirely healed - I still have a sinking feeling in my stomach when I hear these interviews and a few nightmares here and there) that I was more suited to.

[@tesscot]

I'm to the point where scholars should WANT to come to school, or stay home. You have a right to an education, exercise that right or don't.

[@sheneedsme]

Can’t wait to to talk to my son in law who is a high school history teacher who is at a high end school teaching AP classes. I had dinner with 3 teachers last night and they all agreed with what teachers have been saying during these fascinating and enlightening conversations.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

When I was tutoring, I saw a lot of AP students' parents advertise gigs online stating that their kids were struggling to stay on top of the workload, falling behind, not understanding what they were learning in class, etc. and that they needed help. The fact that increasing numbers of students are enrolling in high school AP courses under false premises because they believe it will look good on their transcripts, and/or because their parents want them to enroll in those courses due to their parents wanting to wrongfully live through their children, has proven detrimental to the students' learning strengths, and their abilities to work and learn independently and keep up with the extremely fast pace that is both demanded and expected at the AP level no matter what the academic subject therein itself. It's called Advanced Placement for a reason. If a student cannot keep up with the given high octane requirements, they should drop out of those courses sooner rather than later. AP courses are not for handholding.

[@kcc879]

I also hate differentiation - reading at a grade three or four level, is beyond the scope of differentiation when they're required to read novels and write essays. It's not possible. I can't help and I shouldn't be expected too. These students will continue thru the system with no improvement. I strongly feel that school needs to be for the minority that love learning and will be successful at college. Those that aren't part of that, let them go and get work and they can then gain their education thru their place of employment.

[@JHh392]

I don’t think teachers get paid enough to teach and be therapists…

[@billybob-tl2tb]

Everything she is saying is true! It’s sad! I can relate.

[@MsJennasis]

Excellent show! She is on the money. Great job y’all

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

I don't think it is the job of the school to get a child counseling. A school can notice there is something wrong with the kid and immediately has to inform the parents about it. The parents need to decide what to do with the child. It is their responsibility, not the school's!!!!!!

[@tiaholloway9668]

I imagine too many schools get sued for not seeing something and saying something. Often teachers and school nurses are the first to see abuse and neglect. If they dontsay or do anything then nothing might get done at all.

[@Maske002]

The broad range of reading levels connects srongly with me. I have students at K-2 reading levels and students at 11-12 in the same class (middle school). I teach history. A lot of the higher level students are LAZY. They see the differentiation and won't do the more challenging work because they see others who can't do the same level work.

[@woodym2]

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[@s.a.vanvleck45]

This "differentiated learning" in some school districts in the US are instead called by the far more benign-sounding "collaborative learning" name, but they are the same failed pedagogy that abandons instruction for (bad) babysitting.

[@jsmooth2057]

We, as teachers, need to start asking admin to demonstrate these differentiation strategies they claim to be so easy.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Definitely! Except that most admin. are too cowardly and incompetent to actually put their big money where their even bigger mouths are. I once asked the Dean of Students at one of my schools to create a list of differentiated instruction teaching techniques that she believed/claimed were more effective and successful than mine, which she labeled "offensive" time and time again for no reason other than her own empty opinion. My students were actually doing quite well under my 100% appropriate, contextually correlative instruction reflective of the academic standards at hand--as proven on paper including on the students' increased standardized test scores that very same school year, but she was too ignorant of that fact. She told me "Oh, that would be way too long a list." I said, "Then you're gonna have to find yourself a new teacher for next year", and walked right out of her office. I submitted my letter of resignation when I got home that evening.

[@KarenKennedy-lq8nt]

I am a former teacher, taught in the 1980’s, 1990’s, and felt like a lot kids needs were not being met at home, physical, emotional, mental, and I had to act like the mother and father.

[@katieandnick4113]

That’s because one or two people cannot possibly meet all of the needs of one child, let alone multiple children. Some may be able to meet more needs than others, but absolutely no two parents can meet all needs, especially without a strong support system for themselves. We are human animals who have managed to convince ourselves that we are some sort of gods. It’s not working out well, obviously.

[@Patson20]

​@@katieandnick4113two parents absolutely can, the problem is now almost 60% of children are born to single mothers. And we've had data for decades that consistently shows single mothers absolutely cannot meet even a portion of their child's needs. The whole "single independent boss babe can do it all" image that's been pushed by feminism is one of the most harmful things our society has done. Combine that with most people literally avoiding raising their child and placating them with an instant gratification machine at 4 years old onward and you get modern kids

[@Nina_Olivia]

Therapy has no place in the classroom. School is for academic, curriculum-based learning. Parents need to attend to kids’ psychological needs outside of school.

[@That1GrlNik]

Yea I quit working American schools after 2 years. Kids are absolutely out of control, and made me hate going to work every single day. Screw that, that is no way to live. Never again. I’ve seen the kids at the international schools my daughter attended/attends in Germany, and now in Japan. Night and day, what’s wrong with American schools?!

[@gbd-oq1rz]

The parents have no morals so the kids are the same. They’re a product of their home environment.

[@panban2012]

Their parents are aholes and so are their little turds.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Education has never been a priority in America. And any and every American politician, teacher, student, parent, even administrator who has tried to prioritize education in their lives and work ultimately gets targeted because they see right through the games that the idiots and ignoramuses around them play for fun. That's why good teachers and even good admin. don't last long. And subsequently why good parents of good students ultimately end up homeschooling their offspring.

[@That1GrlNik]

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 The education system has always had its flaws, but it depends on the school and the students themselves. I grew up in America, and I was fortunate to receive an excellent education because my parents wanted it for me, and I wanted it for myself. Times have changed. These kids are something else…anti-intellectualism is very real with them, and the behavioral issues are something I have NEVER even imagined could happen in a classroom. That’s why teachers are quitting left and right. No one deserves to go to work to be heavily disrespected and extremely stressed every day in a job that’s meant to be doing good for others. And it’s not just school teachers, I’ll always recall that video of a ballet teacher in tears because her classes of small children have her “traumatized”!

[@languay1]

When admin talks to the faculty about differentiation and overwhelms us with ivory tower notions, I say that I can't sustain that. I tell them that I need professional development for that, including at least one week of modeling in my class. The modeling needs to include planning, prepping, implementing, and assessing. I haven't received help yet. I just get more talk from the ivory tower.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

I love how much ground was covered in this interview! It basically sums up the outlook of Gen Z and Gen Alpha as we know them from the teaching-learning perspective in education. In terms of students' self-proclaimed identities and disabilities: one's own gender identity (biological, social, you name it) is their business and they can feel free to both take pride in such an identity and also share that personal information with whomever they please (provided they do inform their parents sooner rather than later of course). However, such an identity can never be weaponized against other people, especially when it comes to blaming other people for not understanding something about who they are inside and out and subsequently attacking them professionally or otherwise. That right there is a dangerous double standard and will only lead to utter chaos in the bigger picture of thing. Also: for every minor and every parent of every minor out there who claims that their offspring have a special-needs condition of some sort: such a significant claim needs backup with a doctor's note. Therefore, the minor in questions must be required to get tested, present the doctor's note certifying that the testing has been complete with results to show for it to the child's teachers and school's main office, and then take things from there smoothly (hopefully). If a parent is unwilling to both get their presumed special-needs child tested and learn more about their child's underlying neurological condition at that, then the parent and the child themselves cannot make such a proclamation regarding the child's learning and mental well being simply because the child is "different". In terms of differentiated instruction: I have always been a big proponent of differentiated instruction and project-based learning. HOWEVER, I like many other teachers refuse to use nor allow students and admin. to use the former as a means of tailoring the instruction and learning itself to fit the needs of every individual student 24/7 so "perfectly" that they never ever have to actually work hard for their success and instead get everything in their favor every minute of the day in and outside of school with their academic learning accordingly. Accountability is a must for everyone; no exceptions! I remember I had a group of 6th Graders in a Classical History class that I was teaching them back in 2018-2019 who deemed themselves "exceptionally bright" and were therefore "bored" in my class. I taught this group one year earlier in 5th Grade, and yes, they were notably intelligent. But they certainly weren't top-tier level. And they knew they had to do the work if they wanted that golden "A" at the end of the day. Well, when middle school set in, their work ethic and attitude tanked terribly overnight. All throughout that year, they were constantly complaining about the work in my class being "too easy", and how much they wanted more challenging work. So...I granted them their wish! Midway through the school year I began giving work that was more challenging, but still doable because I had done it with other 6th Grade classes and they had no qualms about it. Well, this particular group of 6th Graders did nothing but complain about the work being "too hard" and "unmanageable". I reminded them that they were the ones who wanted the challenge and continually claimed to be able to handle it, time and time again. Yet when it came time to put their money where their mouths were, they totally objected and even complained to my principal about the "situation". After the principal heard my side of "the story", in which I reminded her about her having preached the whole need for "differentiated instruction" at the beginning of the year, she then told me to give the students simpler work again, which I did, with my 6th Graders complaining as usual. Basically, there are many students, parents, and admin. out there (in every sense of the idea) who just want to manipulate and bully teachers. They have zero interest in learning, trying, and showing respect. They want to "win" without lifting a finger (except to flip you off both behind your back and to your face). And they have zero gratitude, humility, and true understanding of what they are doing behaviorally, socially, academically, and professionally accordingly. And to every angry social media user out there who blames all of this on "liberalism": No Child Left Behind was created by a Republican President of the United States; college tuition increased under a Republican President who also tried to dismantle the Department of Education shortly after it was created by his high-IQ Democrat predecessor who outlived each of his two successors by a long shot; and our next repeat of a Republican President wants to dismantle the Department of Education altogether and just may get his wish given the lineup of his colleagues in Congress and the Senate, along with his own handpicked administration. How's that for irony?!

[@TeacherTherapy]

Thanks for sharing! I always enjoy reading your thoughts, Peter! 🤗

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@TeacherTherapy You are very welcome, Trish! I am always happy to share my thoughts regarding education with the world, and I thank you for always taking interest! 😊