Teacher Publicly Resigns After 25 Years! GEN Z isn't Prepared for COLLEGE or LIFE Due To ED SCAMS!

A veteran teacher, is sounding the alarm regarding corrupt educational practices that don't serve students! Why aren't students entering college ready to succeed? There is a direct connection between trendy, money making educational scams that are taking this nation by storm and students that enter college or the workforce lost and unprepared.
Whenever educators try to speak up they are silenced and gaslighted by administrators that are lost in their own echo chambers!
One massive issue centers around ineffective grading practices such as standards based grading (sometimes called equitable grading) and evidence based reporting. It is almost impossible for a student to fail even if they never turn in major assignments. Students are allowed to have infinite chances to redo work, and there is no such thing as a deadline! Failure is eliminated and excuses are made for poor effort. This has to stop!
#education
#genz
#quitteaching
#teachingandlearning
#gaslighting
#socialemotionallearning
#schools
#gradingsystem
#grading
#teachers
#teaching
#storytime
#classroom

[@video6223]

I am a professor and I am resigning because of GenZ and younger millennials. I can no longer take the abuse and unrealistic expectations of trainees knowing that tax payers money are going towards funding important research. We can’t make real world human health problems easy, but when they come into from a college science degree unable to do the simplest math, it’s a serious problem. I fear for the future but I can’t do it anymore.

[@julie.1081]

I feel for you & I don't blame you for getting out one bit! I hope you've found something more rewarding.

[@T_is_for_T]

In Germany, you go to the next grade when you master the skills in the current grade. This is done through testing. It allows some students to progress faster and others to take more time to master the skills necessary to find success at the next level. You know, those skills that are part of the real world. In the real world, you master the current job before getting a promotion…

[@SquirtlePower809]

We have largely removed testing for schools. We have been told it is "racist"...

[@cooker-q4x]

So kids will graduate at all different ages? Most graduate at 18, although a few will be 19 and some will graduate early at 17.

[@snowbork252]

​@@cooker-q4x used to be like that when I was in school in the US in the 90s. My cousin failed 4 times and drove to 8th grade.

[@geofferypmeyers]

Failing is a part of life and kids need to learn to fail. It’s a skill and a life lesson

[@sabrenak9063]

I recently quit after 16 years of teaching low-income elementary age students. It feels like teaching sucks out creativity and problem solving from the classrooms. Administrators and superintendents are adopting policies and programs that are not beneficial to teachers and students. My former district adopted a new grading policy where tests are the only thing that counts towards students' grades. So older students don't care and don't put in effort when it comes to classwork, quizzes, and projects. If it starts as early as elementary school, then how many students will actually be able to survive the workload in colleges? How many will put in the effort? I think admin cares about making themselves look good. It's not about the kids anymore.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@@sabrenak9063 Floriduh has been like that for a long time, I think got a front row seat to the destruction of education working at UCF. The president was the first to give himself CEO pay, the rest of the country followed. He named the library after himself. There is a far right contingency that thinks Prager U is the future of education.

[@khem127]

They should be given a chance by having the best educational curriculum available. You don't want to set them up for failure,

[@sarahkercheval8964]

Damn. Good point!! We all know this but applying this fact to kids in school and the crappy grading system is genius

[@nathantaylor-gk5qm]

I'm a 50 year old husband and father from Georgia who is raising a 7th grade daughter who attends a county public school district in a well funded and growing suburban community. I have seen the defiant older generation and wealthy residents pushing against the sprawl of the city of Columbus,GA metro area, and the increase of minorities. The black families are the main target of the pushback. I am not going to be a part of this situation. I am writing to the school boar, but they are not willing to respond. I recently found a district policy that puts a limit on the number of black kids who are disciplined and a teacher in the county told me that there's an obvious difference between the discipline of the white kids and their black kids who have been caught for cheating. They suspended the black ki, and the white kid was written up. That's racism. I have a sister who lives and teaches 5th grade in our distric, and I asked her about some incite and the quality of the middle school education and advice. I am not going to lie about my own sisters response. She began with there are a couple activist teachers who were acquainted with the Gay Straight Alliance club. I asked her to clarify. She said that teacher is letting the group use her classroom for the club. - she did not know I was a member of this outreach program that is a weekly delivery of a bag of food and snacks for the kids in need during the weekend. It was a project that a former student from our church had created for a scholarship or aid. When she graduated and went to college We made the program as an extension for our Episcopal Church in the county that has been growing faced with challenges from our other churches in the county because we are welcome to all people with no exceptions. We have grown the outreach program and I appealed to the high school clubs and the athletes to volunteer. The only group that was willing was that Gay Straight Alliance and I am so proud of them. I was so proud to have the group that is so stigmatized by my own sister helping those in need. BackSnacks Harris County- so I chuckled at her response and said 'oh those kids. I know them and they are good kids. I am not worried about that. If allowing a club use of a classroom is indoctrination you are confused ' I have to say to make a clear and poignant statement for you Bible thumping Evangelical Christians including my own sisters, who are a big burden to the children of the country. Especially the way you are able confident in your group of hate for someone who is not on your side or follows the rules of the 2000 year old book of hypocrisy and contradiction and interpretation to make yall affirm hateful rhetoric and exclusionary practice in the name of God. You are wrong and I ain't got any respect for you. I don't want it in our public schools. Finally. I was raised on traditional mathematics and I am a land surveyor here locally. I have been taught the math and geometry of my profession and I still use it for my own desire to double check my work. I'm part of the growing use of GPS technology and it is advanced productivity and I am not against progess in engineering but it is certainly not a perfect fit in a the way to make decisions on the ground facing a problem quickly and effectively. I have seen younger employees who are useless if their GPS is not giving them the answer. They are mathematics illiterate and if you have a problem with the pipe line not being designed right. The contractor is not getting paid for delays and he expects the engineering to fix it quickly. The problem is a easy solution for the thinkers and the one who is able to mathematically adjust on the job. I'm the son of educators who are life long professionals in this field who are retired. They were not in the same school environment as today. They were old school and I was raised on traditional school values that are unacceptable to the behaviors of students administrators and parents of those I have been following in the comments. The truth is that life is about failure and success. A second chance is not guaranteed. I am raising my daughter in the old way. Missing assignments are unacceptable for her. I told her if you missed your assignment at work you lose the job. Simple. You are a kid your teacher is the adult and she is the boss and you treat her with respect. I have been following my daughter throughout her schooling and I am proud. She is growing up and I have to be honest with her about everything. I would be an idiot for the things heard at school to shape her understanding. I am grateful that I am able to take a school lesson and make it applicable for the time. I am not going to pretend to know something if I don't. I encourage her to ask questions if she needs to. I placed her schooling on her. I told her that was her job. She knows that I expect her to do the best she can and I have never expected her to be perfect. I am not afraid to let her make mistakes but she is shown to not repeat the same mistakes. I am the one who is setting the standards for what behaviors are acceptable. I lead by example and it's working fine now. I am expressing that the value of a good education is important to the extent of rebranding woke. I am not raising a daughter to be a follower and that is an important thing to me. I am not going to pretend that life isn't hard and that people are not perfect. It is absurd that folks are so scared to engage with people who are different. I want her to be able to manage herself with uncomfortable feelings. I am talking about open-minded people. It makes sense to have a discussion about what is the fact that she is going to find herself in a situation where she just doesn't feel right. I am saying that is a feeling to be trusted.

[@Klady45]

Omg, I am a therapist and I see a lot of this inappropriate behaviors from the school staff and students. Ridiculous! SMH. The education system will continue to be broken due the poor leadership of the school districts, parents who coddle their children who will grow up to have difficulty in life as adults. When children are not completing school work on purpose and the school staff and parents co-sign immoral and unethical behaviors. We as a country are in trouble. These kids are not prepared for the real work. There will be a rude awakening. We cannot keep giving awards to kids who did not earn it or padding them through with no effort. What are we teaching these children who will soon become adults. This is insane.

[@achievecollege]

I feel like we are sounding multiple alarms, and no one is listening.

[@clinetalbo]

Like canaries in a coal mine. People just want to deny it.

[@smalls9852]

Yeah, unfortunately it does seem that way. But I hope things change soon.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Because school, learning, teaching, and education are all becoming more and more undervalued with every passing year.

[@reneedennis2011]

​@@munimathbypeterfelton6251Yup.

[@paulw5039]

What's driving it is a replacement of objectivity with subjectivity. What we feel should be true is vastly more important than demonstrable, evidence-based outcomes. Objective truth and reality are now 'offensive'.

[@ddu1331]

Funny thing is most administrators wouldn’t last in the classroom themselves….completely disconnected

[@eileensullivan4924]

I think that has always been the case. That is why they chose to be administrators.

[@pagandeva2000]

What’s sad is that these students are our future teachers, physicians, nurses, counselors…this leads to unsafe practices

[@Catturtlelover3000]

I have a 9 month old and most of the parents in my mom/baby group are planning to homeschool or look for alternative schooling options. The public schools around here have gotten so bad that a lot of parents don’t want to send their kids to them.

[@kellyk-y9d]

Kids are not stupid. My middle schoolers admitted that they would only do their work if they were held back. I left because they literally did nothing all day in school.

[@animusadvertere3371]

I would’ve done the same, and my subsequent life would have sucked.

[@laglendareed8086]

I have the same problem at my school and as soon as I get my masters in teaching I am leaving the profession.

[@NaturalCupcake]

​@laglendareed8086 I'm curious; why are you getting a masters in teaching, then leave? Drop the masters in teaching and pursue masters in something else.

[@younot-ez3xr]

I have a feeling she was almost done with the program before she realized it wasn't for her. Might as well get the degree after all that time

[@fredwelf8650]

This is the kind of attitude that is ridiculous. Teachers have responsibilities to motivate, to provide interesting lessons, to guide students through learning tasks. Remarks like ‘can’t read’ or ‘won’t do anything’ indicate that a teacher has a poor attitude.

[@ek5384]

That lingering immorality he talked about is the worst part. You either start doing extremely unethical things like putting in these fake grades, or you’re bullied and harassed until you resign.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Yep! It's lose-lose for teachers!

[@reneedennis2011]

​@@munimathbypeterfelton6251Yup.

[@thothheartmaat2833]

oh so thats how the payola in schools works..

[@ek5384]

@@thothheartmaat2833 Allow me to explain. I came home last week in tears from a meeting with a parent who chewed me out because her child was failing my class and it was “my fault”. When I reminded her of the countless notifications I sent and the referrals I wrote about her son being on his phone every single day, she told me my class rules against cell phones were unreasonable and I just needed to teach better. When I tried to explain politely that a child cannot learn if he is watching TikTok videos during a lesson, she became enraged. Admin got involved and I was reprimanded for not finding a way to compromise with the parent. What was I supposed to do in this situation I honestly don’t know. If I had just put in a fake passing grade, my boss wouldn’t be mad at me, the parent would have left me alone and I wouldn’t spend all evening crying. Imagine going through this for years.. people quickly learn that doing the right thing comes at an impossible cost. I’m not condoning the lingering immorality, but I most certainly understand it.

[@laiyalaiya6088]

@@ek5384 as a student, I saw how mistreated y’all are ! And it’s sad cause in situations like that you can tell the parents don’t even care to parent their own kids and expect you to do “better” as if you didn’t go to school for this ! Not parenting

[@bullard73]

When the kids of today have children, they will expect that their kids have it even easier. It is a slippery slope. Our society is digressing.

[@pointblanks]

Idiocracy, the documentary, not the movie.

[@eskimo3622]

Yes, and its all areas of society, all regressing at the same time

[@gregjames9875]

My wife's a teacher. It amazes me how she is expected to bend over backwards to give kids an opportunity to turn in work, they just chose not to do the first, second or third time. It needs to stop.

[@kcc879]

I agree. It increases teacher workload hugely by means of hours and hours and hours. To the point of it being detrimental and burn out. In QLD education system we have to do drafting, provide extensive feedback (as I rewrite the assignments) and then the students hand in a good copy. But they can not hand it in and I was told give them a pass. So I did. I had terrible migraines. I put in notice and got so my flack from that. The school won’t even be a referee for me. I’m glad I’m not working at school full time. I’m still doing supply but been applying for other work. I’ve also made an appointment to see a clinical psychologist to help me with stress and I really hope I can lose weight as well.

[@paulbenjamin9480]

100% agree - I am a high school social studies teacher in rural PA and this is one of my biggest issues. What are we teaching our kids??

[@paulbenjamin9480]

I should have mentioned that I have been teaching for 28 years.

[@dre3425]

@@paulbenjamin9480I teach 6th grade social studies and I wonder the same thing. When I was 12, mom and dad were on my butt to complete work, stay out of trouble, and keep room clean. I was rambunctious but you best believe my grades were outstanding. It takes my students 4 days to turn in a paper with 4 questions on it……. Some of them have a 1st grade reading level and they aren’t held back. How are they gonna function as adults in 6 years……very scary to think about….

[@laglendareed8086]

Yes it does.

[@x77punk77x]

As an outsider non-parent: 1. What are these feckless administrators paid? 2. What are these fraudulent consulting firms paid? 3. How much of school budgets are generally wasted on other things (e.g. adding technology that doesn’t add value to learning in the classroom)? This is insane that teachers are being coerced into this corruption; those funds should go to them, not the corrupt bureaucratic power structures, pseudopedagogical paradigm peddlers, et al.

[@luvkayakn]

The unions spend over 80% of the members’ dues on political activities. They’re essentially a lobbyist PAC for the democrats. Former education secretary, Roderick Paige wrote War Against Hope about the unions enjoying (creating) friction between parents and teachers to ensure the teachers’ continued perception of needing the union membership.

[@VanessaJohnson-g7f]

I know in my city, something like 30% goes to central administration costs, more % for principals' salaries. The "per pupil" cost you see quoted in the media does NOT all go to your local school.

[@Janet-cq8tw]

@@luvkayakn So you know nothing about schools and teaching. Got it. Thanks for playing

[@innotech]

kids are leaving school with no idea how to deal with the world outside and its very sad.

[@lulubellek3988]

This interview with Mr. Salituro fills many gaps for the "outsider" who works with children. I'm a private tutor and NOW I understand better what I am seeing as I work with students K-12.

[@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro]

I'm an erstwhile college professor. These new, low standards which highschools have set, have had marked effect on the quality of college students. I fear it will the demise of "American exceptionalism".

[@scottdavis3571]

We're done as a country. We let Jesus and Pals take over our education system. Now, we are going down hill like Britain.

[@fredwelf8650]

The point is to shift the emphasis from grading to actual learning. Failing students is nonsense. It is a practice that reflects the teachers incompetence.

[@Dryreward]

​​​​​​@@fredwelf8650 But now they aren't learning much bc they don't do any work and many teachers are saying that kids are multiple grade levels behind where they should be. Say what you want about failing kids, but the old system lead to more competent kids because there were actual standards kids had to reach in order to prevent being held back. Now that everyone gets to advance no matter what, kids don't have as much of an incentive to actually try. In my experience also, no one truly fails unless they don't do any work at all. Most kids who aren't super bright or good at school will get bad grades but not fail as long as they compete most assignments. It was already HARD to fail, like you had to either really not do much work or have a severe learning disabilities

[@JB-kl4pn]

If a parent wants to nurture an actual love of learning, then homeschooling is the way to go. If the parent opts for traditional schooling, then the parent must understand that failing a student who refuses to do the work is not nonsense. Any teacher who fails to hold recalcitrant students accountable is doing a tremendous disservice to the students. Again I'll reiterate, if a parent values a true love of learning, the best route is to pursue a digital-free, content-rich learning environment through homeschooling

[@Janet-cq8tw]

It never existed-that's just political propaganda to make Americans feel better about how dumb we are. And administrators are awful across the board.

[@maryl234]

I felt so much of the same - the grading lacked integrity. I left at 55 after 25 years - 17 in Massachusetts. I get a partial retirement and have moved into another field where I don't take work home, don't work weekends, work at home 2 days, and am safe when I go to work. F all of it. Disrespected most the of 17 years. If a kid never fails, they never think they do anything wrong. There are no consequences for their actions. Meltdowns as adults ahead. If you show up to work late too often you can be fired. If you pay your taxes late, there's a penalty. If you make poor choices there will be poor results. Fantasyland in school now. Everyone's a winner! (not)

[@victoriamartin1995]

May I ask to what occupation you switched?

[@noblelies]

25 years of teaching? My gosh, and he still looks so young! I would have never guessed.

[@CS-wb6pv]

Wow! Thanks!

[@karenbean271]

So many good points. I taught a different demographic - high poverty, 85% students not reading on grade level, 30% IEPs, 40% chronic behavior problems, etc. At first I was all for equitable/mastery based grading because I thought it would help my students to catch up. But I quickly realized the real agenda behind these types of grading practices: saving money. When students don’t fail, there is no incentive for the district to pay for SPED teachers, paraprofessionals, and social workers. Much cheaper to funny with the grades than to really invest in student success.

[@thothheartmaat2833]

they recently said not a single kid in chicago is proficient in math or reading..

[@mzny4314]

That is such a theft and I don’t think that the students realize it.

[@rhuttrho88]

Democrats!

[@rosalinasantos3078]

Yup my sisters HIGHSCHOOL told her she has to go see a doctor to get tested for dyslexia cuz if they actually for real told us we can’t do it at the school because if it comes back saying she does have dyslexia that the school doesn’t have the resources to help her. She had an iep her entire educational history since elementary always behind reading levels but never failed always just passed given extra time for tests never did her homework. They never focused on how to help her learn just to make sure she wasn’t getting bad grades. Really weird but now she found a passion for interior design and wants to go to community college so she’s been able to find motivation. And I’m graduating college now so I tried to give her as much guidance as I could.

[@T_is_for_T]

I’ve worked with teachers who basically “babysit” their learning disabled students, and others with high expectations, like me. 6 years after retirement, I still have former students, now adults, reaching out to me to thank me for being patient with their struggles while helping them learn how to overcome some of those challenges with technology and their cell phone. Today, students can have AI write their papers, but in the end, they’ve mastered technology, but not basic writing, reading comprehension, or critical thinking skills needed to navigate life as an adult.

[@BearClips]

I’m not in the teaching field or anything but I have nothing but respect for current teachers and those who left the profession, it’s tough out here now for them

[@luckylockelamora]

I've had multiple school admins change my grades because the student's parent was rich or in power. Even for speach contests! So the student awarded first place got a forever title but completely didn't deserve it. And the hard working student that deserved it gets pushed out of third place. It's absolutely disgusting and unethical out here.

[@TB-nn6wb]

Speech

[@NeveauRock]

You were likely using grades as a punishment. That does not fly. You were properly corrected. Sound like these two. Hrades, grades, grades.... silly.

[@NaturalCupcake]

​@@NeveauRockYou sound ridiculous. Grades are earned not given. If a student earned a grade according to their performance and a rubric, it is what it is. There are bad eggs on all professions, but most teachers aren't using grades as punishment. There are grading rubrics and criteria.

[@fishofgold6553]

​@@NeveauRock And you say this based on *what*, exactly???

[@SquirtlePower809]

As a college teacher, I feel sooooo frustrated because no one will listen to me-- I have been SCREAMING that our k-12 teachers need massive support and a total revolution from parents, because WE are getting these students in as freshman that can't even read, but somehow I am supposed to teach this kid how to write a 25 page research essay on intercultural theories??!!!! Like What?!!!

[@kevindoinghisthing]

Love your handle btw

[@elainebarbeau1315]

The administrators are being paid by the oligarchs - to create illiterate youth, who will not have the skills to do well in life, and therefore will turn to drugs, violence, or suicide. The oligarchs are luciferin. They have been planning to reduce population anyway they can for the last 50 years. There is strength in numbers. Parents, teachers, and students need to unite against administrators, school boards, and state officials.

[@elainebarbeau1315]

The administrators are being paid by the oligarchs - to create illiterate youth, who will not have the skills to do well in life, and therefore will turn to drugs, violence, or suicide. The oligarchs are luciferin. They have been planning to reduce population anyway they can for the last 50 years. There is strength in numbers. Parents, teachers, and students need to unite lawfully against administrators, school boards, and state officials - they are our employees. If you become American State Nationals you will have the power to effectuate change.

[@mysticimagesart5827]

I'm a college instructor as well... It's very discouraging. Students do as little work as possible and expect As. Admins expect us to pass all students because the course is a Gen Ed. Course. Their motto: D's get degrees. If students complain about instructors because they aren't "giving them a gold star and lots of complements on their work" the instructor is in trouble. We tasked with basically lying to students about their performance. The students expect only complements regardless of the quality of work. It's absolutely horrifying because this isn't teaching students how to function in the real world and job market.

[@SquirtlePower809]

@mysticimagesart5827 wow, you nailed it 💯!! People don't realize that we are basically being forced to give As to all students, all the time, regardless of the quality or effort of the student. And yes, if I hear the "Ds get degrees" phrase again, my head might explode. It's bad. It's really bad.

[@HomeEcSewing]

This made me think instantly of the many parents who have challenged my grading with the statement, "What is going on here with this (B, C, F, etc.)? My child has ALWAYS been a straight A student." Meanwhile... their high school student can't write a coherent paragraph. As a teacher, I know exactly why that child was always a straight A student and it is also the reason why I won't return to teaching, and why I have zero faith in the educational system in (and future of) America.

[@bazhumke4040]

well this bummed me out

[@NeveauRock]

So your solution to a student who cannot write is to give them failing grades?!!? 😮

[@HabAnagarek]

​@@NeveauRock...Yes?

[@MissMonday-nn9qe]

We're starting to see this in the workplace as well. Until recently, I had been a corporate trainer for the last 10 years. New hires started coming in with demands above their status. This computer is too old, I need a new one. This task is boring, I need something else to do to break up my time. I know I don't have PTO yet, but I have to have 1 day a month off for my mental health. They want to come and go whenever ever they want. The concept of an 8-5 schedule is foreign. I had to enlist HR on several occasions to help me fight dress code violations. We started getting threatened with discrimination suits because I had to create and enforce a "no leggings or crop tops" policy. Not to mention, trying to train them was a disaster. Super needy, everyone has their own super special way of learning that you have to accommodate, they want to argue with you over methods they don't yet know the full concept of, they wouldn't let me know when they finished a task (i caught one girl planning her friends wedding on the company computer, and she blamed me for not reminding her that she had to tell me when she was out of work), the list goes on. I fired one in the middle of a training session because she told me to "hold on" why she answered her phone during one on one training. ZEEERRROO respect for authority. I'm so glad to be out of that environment.

[@reneedennis2011]

😬

[@kerryswier4173]

Exact same behaviors I see in the middle schoolers I teach.

[@las8883]

These kids will not be able to hold a stable job at all

[@xXjustimagineXx]

I am seeing this in the service industry from both a workers point of view and a customer point of view. From a workers point of view I currently work as a barista and I declined moving up to supervisor. Some of my coworkers are beyond lazy, refuse to do cleaning tasks because they aren’t “getting paid enough”, they stand around on their phones. Complain that they have to have nonslip shoes and dress codes, Some didn’t know that you need to wash dishes with hot water and sanitizer with cold… this was because they were taught by other people with these mindsets that didn’t let them know because the person that trained them didn’t care to train them properly. Now from a customer perspective I am seeing people ignore customers. the other day I went to an ice cream shop the girl working greeted me and asked if I was ready to order I said yes, I proceeded to stand at the register for 5 minutes while the girl working played on her phone ignoring me I could see she was scrolling through tiktok. The girl then walked over to register and opened the register and opened the change she had in drawer already and fill up the quarters, I was going to pay with card. I walked to the door before she said anything else to me “I was about to take your order though”.

[@blueeyesandmudpies]

both extremes. TBH it's also become very apparent in a day and age where i can do more in 20 minutes on a computer than my grandma could do at the same job in 1980 over two days, that some jobs need to get over hiring 8-5 daily seat warmers and start hiring people to complete the work as needed. we can be monitored on our computers more than they ever were able to by standing and breathing down our necks.

[@sanj6576]

I really am happy I found your channel. I am a parent here and have been caught on the other side of this. Due to the school enabling these terrible behaviors, my child stopped taking school work seriously. I was specifically told one year that she would not pass and the report cards come along and she's promoted!! When I called the school for an explanation, I was told well if she doesn't do well in the next grade - we will put her back. This created animosity in the home because I was handing out consequences for late work and the teachers making me look like the crazy one for enforcing the due dates. These students will not survive in the real world with this kind of work ethic.

[@ALee-xf2vm]

It's not the teachers, though. We HATE what is going on, but we are forced to do whatever we're told or lose our jobs. It's a nightmare for us ... Can you imagine what it's like in the classroom?

[@therealtoni]

Doesn't it infuriate you???!! Well=== they said PASS but they will be PROMOTED!!!! Yep

[@WendyTalkRadio]

Teachers generally do not make these overarching decisions.

[@reddirtwalker8041]

Same as a parent, which is part of the reason I send my kids to private school. I also wonder as an engineer....what is this philosophy of teaching teaching our kids about responsibility in general. I mean, if I do something wrong in my job it could literally hurt and possibly kill someone. I don't get do overs or make up work.

[@SaraHinata]

​@@reddirtwalker8041 I don't know in the US, but in my country teachers also have due dates to submit the grades and we don't have make ups or do overs either. We're having the same situation of having to pass students that aren't turning in work and have significant absences

[@MsLEducation]

This is such a necessary conversation. Teachers with integrity are finding our educational system increasingly untenable because it requires us to compromise our morals in order to "fit in" and not have parents and administrators on our backs. This is the biggest reason why I left the classroom. It was turning into customer service and just doing whatever it took to keep parents/students happy, while making the admin's job easier. I can appreciate that some teachers are able to suck it up and turn a blind eye in order to make it through the day (or to make it until retirement). But I couldn't keep lowering the bar in my classroom and inflating grades just to keep my sanity at work. I knew, deep down, that it was HARMING students. I didn't become a teacher to hurt students. It does not prepare them for life to keep dropping standards and never letting them experience a consequence. How could I, in good conscience, pass a student when they didn't submit a single assignment and could barely string a paragraph together in my English class? But that's what my department chair wanted. He wanted me to have "grace and flexibility" with kids, which was really code for "push them through no matter what." What a disservice to our young people. Doing this for long enough can cause moral injury, which is what I'm working with my therapist to overcome. Moral injury is when one feels they have violated their moral compass when they take part in, witness or fail to prevent an act that disobeys their own personal principles. Many teachers experiencing burnout can relate. It's not just the workload and dealing with difficult students/parents/administrators. Sometimes, it's not even the low pay or long hours. It's the burnout from having to do things against your moral compass in order to keep your job and feed your family. Like Christopher, I was also having physical symptoms because of this. I would get severe headaches and nausea every Sunday night because I dreaded the upcoming week. It was not uncommon for me to have heart palpitations on my drive to work. After I parked, I would often weep uncontrollably in my car before going into the building. I had high blood pressure and was barely 30 years old. This was no way to live. I loved the art of teaching and helping students, but it just became impossible to work within such a broken system. As always, thanks so much for these videos that so perfectly articulate all the issues within Education today. People need to take note. Our society is in serious trouble if something doesn't change…

[@TeacherTherapy]

Thank you so much for sharing! You described the plight of a teacher perfectly! ❤ I'm glad to hear that you were able to transition out of the classroom for the sake of your health and well-being. So many of us know exactly how you feel. 💕

[@victoriaryan23]

It is so sad to hear that so many dedicated teachers are leaving the classrooms, usually for the same reasons. But like you said, we just can't take part in turning a blind eye and also having it negatively affect our health. Maybe one day we'll build a new system, to replace this old one that's so broken.

[@Bookworm51485]

I work in a system right now where they've mandated a minimum grade, meaning teachers can't give a student a grade below that. So if a student literally never shows up for a single day of class, they lowest they can leave with is this number instead of the 0 they deserve. I've never, in my life, seen something so insane...

[@holdonC]

Worded perfectly!! The moral compass explanation is it. I’ve been hearing a lot from teachers leaving. Most have been teaching 10yrs or less. I need to hear from those that are 20+ years in teaching and are staying due to retirement. Teachers retirement, in CA, is a formula that takes in age and years of service. Plus after age 60 teaching those last few years makes a major difference in amount at retirement. What are they doing to stay? Some that feel they have to stay for their retirement to be able to survive their elder years. What are the strategies for those staying??

[@thothheartmaat2833]

because certain peoples kids are going to go on to become whoever their parents reputation affords them to become and it has nothing to do with the kids grades or abilities as a person or student.. see hunter biden..

[@MrJojomylove]

Watching all these teachers retire is very sad. Am sad for the students who will never meet them

[@donnaw8279]

As a former classroom teacher and media specialist, I experienced some version of everything he said down to these million dollar curriculums purchased by school districts facilitated by people who never put them into practice in the classroom. Every few years, they throw away the last new thing for something else, and teachers are the ones penalized for it not working. I've also been in a district where students are allowed to make up assignments from August in May of the following year. I could go on, but it's pointless. Public education is a mess right now, and it started long before COVID.

[@GaglianiGirl]

As a parent of 4 and a stepparent of 3, thank you for these conversations. I’ve noticed many of these things as my kids have progressed through the school system, and it’s worrisome, to say the least. We employ many people between 18-25 in my workplace, and I’ve noticed even college graduates are missing basic skills you’d have expected them to learn in elementary school. For instance, as their supervisor, I’ve had to work with employees on things like basic addition and subtraction. Not having the potential to fail leads to a lack of motivation to learn the material, and I’m, personally, seeing huge gaps in knowledge. Also, learning how to prioritize and keep up with your load is an important skill that was always inherently learned throughout schooling as a side effect of having due dates and deadlines. It’s important for kids to be able to fail. And it’s even more important for them to experience it as a minor under the financial support and protection of their parents. It’s not a part of childhood that can just be skipped over if we want to raise healthy, productive adults.

[@michaelsix9684]

in 1974 after HS I had to take a math test as part of the hiring process to be a nurse's aide for 2.65/hr. I didn't use math often in the job, but they had to find out who could handle numbers -- I had math all the way to calculus, still had to take the test -- this was in Akron, Ohio not a big town - today I don't how bad it is

[@mathieuvallerand6772]

SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND I LOVE IT! I TRULY APPLAUD YOU FOR FOLLOWING YOUR SELF-RESPECT AND INTEGRITY AND PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT!

[@yanasto]

I was taught that the bottom 10% of my class will fail even if I was the best teacher in the entire world, and the top 10% of my class will succeed even if I was the worst teacher in the entire world. The 80% in the middle are the ones I can help and that’s where I should put my attention.

[@bullard73]

I'm scared that in the future my heart doctor will be the kid who was socially promoted, did it all online, and had modifications and accommodations in college..

[@reneedennis2011]

😬

[@CS-wb6pv]

I think they won’t be because med schools won’t put up with that, however we might want to worry that there won’t be any doctors! 😮

[@Chibling]

Don't worry, they will perform so much worse than AI that they won't have a job.

[@olumbafamilyfaith9396]

my husband was a school administrator and i was a substitute teacher. i’m so glad for our experiences working in the school system. what we witnessed has made us FIRM believers in homeschooling.

[@sharinaross1865]

I believe in home school too.

[@miketeacher9016]

I'm a high school teacher and I agree with you.

[@annabrahamson4320]

Already has.

[@annabrahamson4320]

Right don't need to pay teachers anymore, just have uneducated patents working two jobs educate their own kids that's good

[@breezyveezy1]

My mom was a special Ed teacher and principal for 30 yrs and from what she saw she begged us to homeschool. Covid came and we pulled the kids and have homeschooled since. It’s been a blessing to correct the deficiency the public schools started. They were passing my son with As and I realized he could barely write!

[@-Thunder]

Anyone that's never heard of "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Iserbyte really needs to look into it. She worked as a Senior Policy Advisor in the Dept of Education. There are no accidents here.

[@LilyGazou]

This needs to be a pinned comment. Thank you for suggesting the book. I just ordered it.

[@mmctaggart3012]

The cortisol reaction to being in constant state of stress is no joke. All the retired teachers I know look calmer , are thinner and certainly are more relaxed. If you are a teacher who actually cares about real student outcomes, for THEIR sake, expect to spend 10 months in a pressure chamber.

[@sda2093707]

This is so true and so painful for teachers who really care.

[@95RangerGirl]

Yes omg

[@NaturalCupcake]

That's me! My blood tests show that my cortisol levels are out of range.

[@melissadavis4981]

During Covid, I got gaurdianship of my nephew who was 16 at the time... all of his schoolwork was done online because of Covid and I was determined to help him with his grades and whatnot... not only was I HORRIFIED that he could barely do basic math... but every time the teacher would assign something for him to do, we would make sure it got done on time and make sure he studied or practiced whatever it was... ONLY to find out that the teacher never graded the work, never gave a quiz, or held them accountable for a single thing they said they were going to. It pissed me off to no end that they would have him doing assignments that were never graded, therefore, he would just argue with me about doing them saying he didn't have to do them.

[@hellodolly9879]

Our school system implemented Standards Based Grading this year. It is a complete and total disaster!

[@CS-wb6pv]

Just a guess but did they consult with Solution Tree? Or someone from Stevenson?

[@julie.1081]

That type of grading system is a total disservice to students. What about the pride a student feels from mastering a subject or even simply bringing their grades up? By just passing students no matter what, teachers become babysitters for people who are about to be full adults w/o a clue about knowledge, discipline or structure.

[@mpag119]

Sal was my teacher back in 2007! One of the teachers that made me want to teach. I also just quit teaching special Ed after 10 years. I couldn’t do it anymore.

[@CS-wb6pv]

So sorry - at the time I thought it would be a great profession. Had I known then what I know now, I would’ve given you a heads up!

[@annabrahamson4320]

Special Ed is hard anyway, had for students and teacher. Many won't go to college anyway.

[@mpag119]

@@annabrahamson4320 Many students who received special education services will go on to college, many won't. What does that have to do with anything? Does how successful you will be in life solely depend on if you go to college? I think not.

[@scottdavis3571]

There's no way of getting 10 year. It pays too low and you're treated poorly.

[@k.stacey7389]

@@annabrahamson4320and? What does going to college have to do with getting an adequate education? If you think the whole point of learning is simply to get to the next level on the education ladder, you probably shouldn’t have been a teacher in the first place.

[@valeriewalker5831]

Why even fixing smth that isn’t broken? Definitely, those curriculum makers living in a delulu land, and have no idea what it’s like to actually teach in the class. They only think about themselves and their own ego

[@patsypryor9850]

My COLLEGE didn't work that way and neither did the colleges of administrators doing all this crap to you. You do the work or you fail simple.

[@SeaofKeys101]

In my district we aren’t allowed to give students anything below a 55 on assignments. Did they turn in the assignment but didn’t do well and earned a 55% although they tried? Yes. Is there a student who didn’t try, didn’t turn the work in, barely came to school, a continuous behavior problem…? Yes. Does that student get the same 55% as the other student who tried? Yes. We aren’t allowed to take off points for days they don’t turn it in. We have to give students TWO weeks to turn in an assignment (if a student has an IEP with certain accommodations it turns into 4 weeks, which I’m fine with). Our kids are tested way more frequently than I ever was and I’m not ridiculously older than my middle school students. Benchmarks, state tests, homework, class tests, quizzes, scope and sequence, observations, evaluations…if I’m burnt out, I know my kids are. It’s a shame.

[@manuelvalencia9407]

That's an embarrassment on many levels.

[@fredflintstone8048]

My heart goes out to this teacher. The more passionate, the better a teacher wants to do at elevating the education of students, the more the system is going to squash them and leave them hanging out to dry. Zombie teachers that admin likes seem to be the only ones that will be able to stay.

[@choicelyon2131]

Nailed it, you're exactly right. The teachers in my building who really care about delivering the highest quality of education they're capable of are all a mess right now emotionally/physically. Yet there are others who are mediocre in the classroom, but they coach or do some other flashy extracurricular, so admin adore them and shout them out more the the teachers that do an excellent job at their main job: teaching. It's disheartening.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@choicelyon2131 It's because the admin. are always scared to death that the good, truly capable teachers are going to somehow "upstage them", "steal their jobs", "make them look bad", etc. It's all about EGO! Deep down, most admin. know that they themselves are pretty useless, so they have to find evil ways to assert their power over teachers--stopping at nothing to do so in the process, with teachers and students following suit in even uglier ways often times.

[@reneedennis2011]

​@@choicelyon2131Yup. Exactly

[@spinkid2000]

I believe that is why i was targeted. I would speak up and question things. I rarely planned more than 3 days ahead because if a lesson bombs I want to reteach the concept, but we were pushed to "Stay on Pace". The new hires just did as they were told and made their classrooms look pretty and stayed on Pace. just moving on to the next lesson regardless of how the day before was.

[@choicelyon2131]

@@spinkid2000 omg THANK YOU for saying that. When I have a new course to prep (which I have almost every year for the last 9 years...) I always teach day-to-day because, as you said, we teach real people with unique learning styles, so we can't just slap a general template on them. I also make my assessments at the end of the unit based on how things went throughout. It's all against what's recommended, so I don't tell anyone this because it's usually perceived as lazy, but I bust my ass making sure my lessons are customized to my specific students. I don't see any carelessness in that. Also, I should allowed to teach in the style that makes sense to my brain. Mapping things out 2 months ahead makes no sense to me because I end up changing it all anyway to fit the kids. It's inefficient.

[@RayPointerChannel]

One of the things that I was finding a problem in returning to teach at the college level was that students were dictating what the course was to be and got upset when they failed to grasp the subject matter. Instead of discussing issues with me, they went to another Instructor or the Liberal Arts Chair because they didn't like the grade I gave them. Aside from bad, confused writing and basic grammatical errors, some were failing to absorb what I was presenting. Some wanted the facts to be their own without supporting them by research taken from credible sources. And being a published author on the subject, I was more than qualified in my position. There seemed to be an amount of "Woke" influence in the thinking of some students, and complaints came back to me several months later about my use of "inappropriate language" without reference to context. There was no specification of what was "inappropriate" about language pertaining to a time period was used. Again, there was a disconnect to context, or a serious perception problem, being offended by references to a social condition and acceptance that is no longer acceptable. They did not want to hear these things and found them "inappropriate" in spite of my qualifying the statements. In another case, a student went off on a tangent and turned in a paper unrelated to the subject matter discussed in class. As it was, this was a subject I knew a great deal about and recognized that this student had not researched the subject from qualified sources. I had to give him a D and told him not to do this, and asked hims to try again and stick to the course material covered the previous week. He didn't do it. Something that Mr. Salituro mentioned about inconsistent grading standards was present at the college I taught at. There was a percentage system based on submissions of assignments. My best A students turned in the work on time. A few were late, one missed several classes with eight papers left undone. While she got caught up near the end of the term, her final grade was not determined by an equitable process since she received a B+ according to the automatic calculations. This was an unfair standard compared to those who attended each class and submitted their work on time. I reported this problem to the college and never got a response. I had issues with this college which did not set me up properly back in January and I went well out of my way to assemble the course without having the course content provided. I was left to create that content in the full knowledge of the Lead Instructor. Then I heard as recently as three weeks ago that there were complaints about some content I did not present, in spite of the fact that the first sentence in the syllabus states, "content subject to change." As we were about to enter the Winter 2024 Term, I was open to revamping my course material to include that material and after three weeks it was not made available. I had issues with the Department Head based on my not having had a Evaluation seven months ago. When I was asking about it, he insinuated that he was considering other candidates. Then I was asked in November if I would be available. When I answered in the affirmative, I never received a confirmation with a statement of what I was to be paid. In the mean time, I was asked to post the course syllabus, and I concluded this should be done by December 1st. After waiting three weeks for a response from the Senior Instructor of the course, I attempted a rough draft of the syllabus, which was a re-posting of the original from January and submitted it to the Department Head for approval. This also included posting assignment dates working closely with the college calendar. While in the draft stage, I noticed errors on my template. There was an error in the course number and catalogue description, which was contrary to the description in the original syllabus. I brought this up and asked how I could correct this. Following that, a fire storm was stirred up saying I was changing the content of the course. This was not so. Instead of discussing our preparation for the term starting next month I was receiving a continuation of negative reports about things I had allegedly said 11 months ago that were approaching what could be a violation of Freedom of Speech. The fact that I was asked to return indicates that my work was acceptable, Instead, I kept getting more and more reports about comments I made in class that were found unacceptable, the last email with links to college policy and a link to sexual harassment. For the record, I never had an orientation. But having taught at the college level for five years at another college, I was certainly experienced in this. I was offended by links in the fourth email since I never sexually harassed any student and most of all never had the courtesy of a personal meeting with this Department Head who after four days was still not addressing the issues that mattered at this point. As a result, I responded by saying that my time was becoming precious and I needed to know if they were serious about my returning. After not receiving an answer, I responded saying I have another offer that will conflict with the class schedule, thanking them for the considering me and that I would look forward to future opportunities at the college. As much as I was looking forward to returning to teach this course, I simply could not tolerate this treatment. There was no feedback on my course and what the students learned. THAT is what should matter.

[@SarahG266]

Administration is out of control!

[@stormchaser419]

This is WHY teachers are "quiet quitting" Seriously there is no incentive to even be honest with grades because the whole system punishes you for being honest. This whole give them as many chances is beyond crazy. Beyond.

[@8thman8]

Spot on!! That's why I retired early.

[@michellereeves5281]

I used to tell people, "When I'm Queen....." there will not be any administrative offices separate from schools. They will all be in a schoolbuilding. And anyone who isn't in a classroom on a daily basis has so many days they have to substitute across all grades and ability levels.

[@churchofpos2279]

I work with a lot of young people -High School and College. I try to teach them to be independent and organize their work day. It's an uphill battle. They act like small children and want me to do everything for them. They can't do basic math or follow directions. Our school systems are failing them. They are not being prepared for the workforce or for adulthood.

[@warrenbuckley5026]

One word covers this DISCIPLINE

[@KamethiaPerez-sf8zm]

Just had a student tell me she did not do her homework because she has a life. Why??????

[@waleedkhalid7486]

I taught as an adjunct lecturer for 4 years before transitioning to HS for a more stable position. I saw the kids I was getting at all levels (community college, 4-year, and med-school), and the quality of students was decreasing each year. They were less able to handle deadlines, more prone to emotional problems, and less able to see past their phones in class. I was seriously wondering what was happening in HSs. Now I see what’s happening- the kids are so disincentivized to do work that they never build up resilience and work ethic. I make it a point in my class to reject late work when needed, and fail students who deserve to fail. I give them the support they need, but they need to ask for it. For me to give, they must give as well. I teach at a super low performing school, but my approach has allowed me to prepare my 9th grade biology students to talk to scientists and doctors with some amount of knowledge. It’s about standards and rigor- my college years taught me something very valuable, and it’s my advice for any new teacher: do not worry about how hard you make your course (within reason). You will always have the students who exceed your expectations, those that meet them, and those who don’t care. Your class should be a literal walk in the park or the most difficult course on the planet; you will still see this happen. Do what you can in your classroom to make it clear that you expectations are high and that you will help the students reach them, if the student tries.

[@choicelyon2131]

Great advice, and I'm sorry (though not surprised) to hear that there's been a notable shift in the quality of student performance at the college level. *sigh*

[@bigghouse101]

We have highly qualified teachers, they should make more money, but mainly we need to get the system out of the way. The rot is in the bureaucracy and the problem is the Prussian education.

[@la6136]

I graduated high school 10 years ago. The best teachers I had in high school and college pushed me and challenged me. It benefited me tremendously and I am grateful for them.

[@paulw5039]

@@cbbcbb6803 I take it you're one of the students who has failed due to lack of effort and it's always everyone else's fault. No one owes you a passing grade. You have to earn it. Your entitlement and lack of accountability will serve you very poorly in life and until you take responsibility for your choices and effort, you will continue to fail, by your own hand.

[@Redridininyohood]

Students arent taught to be independent. They are literally being taught to be dependent in and on society. I'm class of 96. So much has changed. What students do now we wouldnt dream of it. Thank you guys for caring. You know what they say about crappy managers. They make unhappy employees. It all rolls downhill. Schools have gotten ridiculous with student behavior. You guys are still the best. Thank you.❤

[@felicity2626]

THIS! It explains everything- just left teaching in the U.K. for the same reasons.

[@stephanienewton6618]

I had 7 kids one semester fail my final. So admin made me give the final again and “coach them” (give them the answers) during the final. In other words -pass them no matter what. I was so frustrated after that because classroom behavior gets worse when they know nothing you’re teaching matters anymore. I got out of brick and mortar education and I teach online now.

[@raaspider]

this sounds like a dumbing down of the educational system. and this is the pool we going to pick doctors from?

[@findingfloridapixie4053]

My husband is a teacher. At his previous high school, students are allowed to turn in missing work from the very first day of school, all the way at the end of school, and still receive a grade. There is no penalty for late or missed work. They can just turn it in whenever.

[@roxie4843]

🤦🏾‍♀️ oh my goodness. This is why I'll probably homeschool my own kids. What a hot mess.

[@profe3330]

Unsurprisingly, I guess, this horrible approach to "education" is taking over college campuses as well. Schools are so desperate for tuition dollars that "retention" and "recruitment" are the only things faculty are supposed to care about. Ever. This means that kids can't be allowed to fail, and teachers can't make demands that are even remotely challenging. It's tragic, really.

[@Falconlibrary]

I retired after thirty years with a few more years (I thought) of teaching in me. I got to the top of the salary scale and suddenly school administration started harassing me on a daily basis, along with all of the other "senior" teachers, until we retired en masse (25% of the faculty resigned in one year). After I retired, I got my first sound night's sleep in many years. I didn't realize how exhausted and stressed I was--not from the students, but from the constant bungling and bullying by the administration. To my sorrow, the younger teachers who are now running my former school don't have a clue: they're terrified of the parents and kids and do whatever's required for them not to get targeted for elimination. The younger generation of teachers have no idea what school used to be like, when we teachers had authority in our classroom. Those days are gone forever.

[@matthewwagster3016]

Mr. Salituro was my sociology teacher junior year at Stevenson. Sal is a great teacher who has a unique ability to connect with his students the likes of which I’ve never seen again. When the good ones go, that’s when you know… system is broken!

[@Meganmama]

Ugh. As a parent I’ve seen this and I hate it so much. My son is in 5th grade and he has ZERO motivation to put any effort into his work because there are no consequences. He can put in minimal effort and still pass, so why on earth would he put in more effort? There’s no reward to putting in more effort. I’m taking my son out of his public school and we’re trying Waldorf for middle school. Even though they don’t focus on traditional grades they do focus on being hands-on and finding intrinsic motivation by sparking interest. I’m praying it helps him find his confidence and inner motivation so he won’t fail in high school.

[@arhabersham]

This interview is the teacher’s equivalent of “The Emperor has no Clothes”: we all see it/feel it, but no one dares to talk about it. Feeling so validated right now! This was an amazing interview, specially that closing remarks. Thanks for all the work involved in this ❤ 🙏🏾

[@CS-wb6pv]

Absolutely! Thanks. Yes - teachers are extremely afraid to speak up because the school does not want their opinion and will punish them for speaking up. It is even written in the teacher contract and/or the media agreement that “teachers will not say anything to damage the schools reputation”!!

[@Bobgrapes25]

Christopher's story is the same as my own. I am now retired and so happy I left education before I lost my own sanity.

[@kathyterese7054]

THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING COLLEGE AGE STUDENTS! This channel is therapy for me. I’ve been teaching college full time since 2005 and it has become so so bad especially over the last year. Same sense of entitlement as what you experience in high school. I have 3 1/2 more years to retirement. Hope I can make it! We are even seeing it on the graduate level. It’s terrible

[@abigailh7715]

This is utterly shocking and heartbreaking You two would have been dream teachers in my school. How awful that kids are missing out so much.

[@prof.jezebel]

Thank you for the elucidating talk! I quit teaching secondary school for the same general reasons and teach at a university where I'm seeing the same results: second year students are working at what would have been a grade 10 level in my day, they don't attend or hand work in, are too depressed and anxious to do anything but scroll on their phones. And I teach an engaging class in a creative subject! The students have been disempowered: by not holding them to standards and a work ethic, you send the message that they are so hopelessly incapable that you can't expect better from them, and they internalize this.

[@LadyCoyKoi]

It is discouraging as a teacher how hopeless these kids are. They aren't even 15 and already have a defeatist mentality. Good grief!!! I grew up in the 1980s years before IDEA 1991 and way before 2001 NCLB, and if you didn't do the work or tried you were sent to special school. You earned your keep during that time, so the kids who tired the most were those of us with disabilities. In the 1994 writing exams, those of us in the ESE classes scored the highest in creative writing and grammar exams compared to our general ed and honor student counterparts. I still remembered the principal praising The Vultures (the ESE mascot and team dept name) for saving the schools' face from national low point. Having disabilities doesn't excuse laziness, if anything your disabilities forced you to do more than the average person. You had to always provide justification for being in school. Those were hard times, but they certainly made me be an advocate that I am now. Now there is only advocacy for stupidity and shady behavior. It is really embarrassing how low the education system has fallen. We had a three strikes you are out method, but now it is like a Mad Max meets Walking Dead and the teachers aren't allowed to fight back. It needs to dye off at this point.

[@rubberbiscuit99]

Agree. Public education amounts to abuse.

[@choicelyon2131]

@@LadyCoyKoi Super interesting perspectives and experiences; thanks for sharing. The "teachers aren't allowed to fight back" is so accurate. I like that you're advocating for students with special learning needs to have high standards for themselves; I once brought up a concern to admin about cheating amongst the special education students; several students had willingly admitted to me that they just used their extended time to look through the test during my class, look up the answers during lunch, and then resume the test later and change their answers. They'd have completely different answers before and after lunch. The admin just shrugged it off and said "we can only do so much to prevent cheating", which to me came off as "we're fine with having lower expectations for our special education students." It made me so angry because I had full faith that these kids could complete their assessments with the same academic integrity as their classmates (and even perform above and beyond, as your Vultures examples demonstrate), but I guess that wasn't important to admin...they just want everyone to get the highest grade possible regardless of the means. You can't blame the kids either, in this case; if the adults in their life are going to systematically lower the bar, of course they're not going to try as hard as they "should".

[@therealtoni]

Or is it possible that they are too good to bother with this busy work because they can just GOOGLE everything?? The low level among young people is apparent when you TRY to have a conversation with them. THey don't have the skills or knowledge to talk about much. Just hope you are not made to pass them in university, too!!

[@choicelyon2131]

@@therealtoni You're so right; my students (10th grade) have no personalities this year (at least that they show to the teachers); it's the most boring and unfulfilling group I've ever taught. The teachers across 10th grade have all said so. You say "good morning" directly to one of them and they ignore you completely. It's shameful. They seem unable to express any complex ideas or synthesize information.

[@jaynehogue2459]

These children are being so harmed by this educational system. They are not being prepared properly

[@susaneasterday8164]

I am a retired teacher of 39 years and I believe that how I may respond to your interview would make no difference as a teacher’s opinion means nothing today. The only influence I have now is advising my son and his wife to be an integral part of their children’s education. A student’s education and mental health has everything to do with their parents. It’s too bad that parents rely on so many others to raise their children, meet their needs, and make them successful. 30:10

[@JackieOwl94]

Admins don’t want kids to know how to read or write, and it’s embarrassing to see workers not able to add 1/2 and 1/2 when working a recipe as a fast food worker.

[@Bookworm51485]

I'm working in a high school and I can tell you, never before has an entire generation made me feel so Iittle hope for the future. There are little glimmers of hope here and there, but there's so much crap covering those little glimmers that it's hard to see them overcoming it in the end

[@smalls9852]

Students and teachers are suffering under this whole situation. I don't get it. How can a grown adult tell a teacher to just let students retake tests or redo assignments as many times as they want. Or turn in assignments as late as they want. How does that apply to the real world? Back in my school years, it was supposed to be prepping students for the real world. What if these students go on to jobs where they have deadlines and are dealing with clients? What are they going to say and do then? Smh. This is really heartbreaking. Extraordinary teachers are being pushed out for no good reason.

[@jennifersnelling1265]

I agree apparently and wholeheartedly. From experience and observation, student accountability is at an all-time low. The events that back up are a constant reminder of such.

[@smalls9852]

Yeah and it really doesn't seem to be getting any better.

[@redflamearrow7113]

Exactly! This is what is ruining the future of our country. How will these kids ever function in the workplace?

[@waleedkhalid7486]

The interesting thing is that when I first started teaching last year we had PDs from a group (I forget the name) that showed us how to set expectations and how to teach kinesthetically and one of the veteran teachers (he was teaching for like 10+ yrs) he said “this looks great for elementary school kids, but it won’t work for our high school”. He also said “those techniques rely on student buy in and compliance, which you’ll get at some white prep school, but one of our biggest challenges is student compliance and our population isn’t as easy to work with”. Once I started diving into academic literature , as much as I could since so much is paywalled, I saw that most of the techniques and evidence come from elementary classrooms in usually wealthier neighborhoods, likely because the experimental environment was more stable. It really opened my eyes to the fact that all these people who get payed big money to talk about what they ‘know’ really have no clue of what they are talking about. They are charlatans at worst, and well-meaning fools at best.

[@christopher7824]

Because some kids have derelict parents, all children must be dumbed down. Insane😢

[@MeowMeow1938]

This is so sad, so corrupt, and so true.

[@court764]

So happy but heartbroken to find this channel. I teach at the graduate school level and we are seeing the consequences of these failed educational policies. It's terrifying to encounter graduate students with limited reading comprehension and other basic skills they should have mastered at the K-12 level who have been promoted through to attainment of a bachelor's degree.

[@yardmama3660]

I have this one class ( for almost two hours everyday - Language Arts). Recently 80% of a class got together and conspired to accuse me of something I did not do in order to try and get me fired because I hold them accountable and handle all my discipline. EIGHTY PERCENT!!! The other two blocks are great. There’s something to be said about grouping these kinds of students into one class.

[@reddirtwalker8041]

Not sure how you feel about it but with more and more stories about kids accusing teachers of various terrible things to get them fired, I'm thinking cameras in the classrooms may be needed to protect the teacher.

[@thirty_ish2890]

This has happened to me on a smaller scale. Think about that…kids are held accountable and so they go after a teachers SOURCE OF INCOME! that’s psycho shit.

[@yardmama3660]

@@thirty_ish2890 yes, these same kids added on that I killed my recently - deceased husband! I cannot believe what I’m seeing in the classroom! I could have signed dozens of write- ups and never did. These kids are something!

[@yardmama3660]

@@thirty_ish2890 it has BLOWN MY MIND!

[@prof.jezebel]

So sorry you had this happen to you! We are teaching in a climate of fear with no authority! no back up!

[@pjj.5649]

When there are teachers who are exemplary at what they teach, and want the students to succeed and do well in school, college, life all they get is more nonsense bureaucratic foolishness that looks good on paper but doesn't benefit the student, what is the incentive. Everything the excellent teacher does to bring out the best in their students is shot down, for wishy-washy standards that don't exist. Add the crazy excuse-making parents who are dillusional as to what their child can and actually does, the excellent teachers can't help but throw up their hands and call it quits. And, let's not forget the teachers who walk around the school all day, looking busy and do absolutely nothing year after year, laughing at the teachers who actually care and teach, it is an insult, slap in the face and a new level of disrepect.

[@tesscot]

He just caught up with where I am. Why even mandate school anymore, because we have no authority over the scholars and we are just babysitters.

[@jango1970]

Same here. I teach mathematics at a public high school in Canada. We can NOT give a ZERO even though the kid never comes to write the math test. And I always ask "when is the final due date?" or "when is the last chance?" but no one can tell me. Christopher asks the same question at 18:00 : "When is the end? when is the final deadline?"

[@goodgrief888]

Unfortunately this stuff does bleed into the workplace. At least where I worked at a startup where young workers would cry and their parents would come visit the office and talk to the boss and the admins. Their sense of entitlement was also shocking. We had fully stocked fridges, catered lunches, a game room, Friday night parties, a fully stocked bar with every imaginable liquor and beer, and yet this was never enough. They wanted more and would often complain or get very specific with their food requests (“Can you please order honey roasted sliced Turkey next time you put in a food order?”) Zero sense of gratitude or appreciation for having a fully stocked kitchen full of free food at all hours. Just more demands. I blamed society at large that had made these kids the center of the universe and never taught them any resilience or skills on how to exist outside of a structured environment.

[@MegaMagicdog]

It's the parents' fault completely! THEY never taught their children gratitude or appreciation or the value of hard work or that they can't come in to fix their problems. Seriously, who would call mom and dad to deal with management because of an issue at work?

[@LilyGazou]

The young people won’t do well in the coming depression. They will have to struggle for any kind of work.

[@stephsteph4503]

If you are working management in an at-will state, I'd definitely fire an employee whose mommy or daddy comes in and complains. ....That's insane.

[@TheGraduate702]

Yes, I’m noticing this too in the workplace. Even remote workers are making demands such as coming and going as they please and wanting time off though they don’t have PTO. 😭. Parents need to do better!

[@goodgrief888]

@FlyingMonkies325 I hear what you’re saying, in a lot of ways I feel sorry for these young people. I was able to get a decent paying job and pay for my own studio apartment with it when I was 19. I see that that’s not a thing anymore unless the parents are wealthy and paying for it. I do think young people are being screwed, and these companies, instead of paying a living wage and benefits, they install a game room and an all you can eat buffet because it’s cheaper than paying people decently. I just hope that things change because I am 55 and the last office job I got they paid me less than I’ve ever been paid in my life. But hey, they did give me catered meals and an open bar, which I did not want. Luckily I didn’t need the job that badly as my husband makes decent money. But I don’t know how people can live on this low pay. Fully stocked kitchen doesn’t pay rent. Still, I was confused by the employees having their parents come into the office, and was not into that.

[@jellyrcw12]

Thank you for letting your guests speak. It's truly a tragedy what is happening in modern day schools

[@luckylockelamora]

"It's being done by administrators that haven't taught in ten years who are trying to sell an idea or brand the next big thing to make a name for themselves"👏👏 If you push back as a teacher you're just replaced by someone that's cheaper to hire out.

[@luvkayakn]

That happens in every industry. I was a Human Resource manager in the ambulance/fire services industry. I was always amazed by the stupidity coming from the out-of-state corporate office by people who had once been paramedics, and should know better. There’s a term for the collective stupidity that occurs in the C suite, but I can’t remember it. Everyone so concerned with just keeping their own job they go along to get along.

[@TommyStrategic]

Wow. This is eye-opening. This guy is describing the atmosphere I came into as a new teacher. I really felt like a failure when I was noticing that nothing made sense, but I see the corruption was so deep that I was never going to develop into a great teacher under these conditions. 😕

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

That is sadly because the average administration and school district of today don't want truly good teachers. They just want a bunch of airhead "yes" men and women who will bow down to the rigged system and sacrifice their dignity and self-respect in the process. It's downright awful.

[@TommyStrategic]

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 I agree. I have a theory that teaching is being diminished as a profession so they can hire short-term, low-wage temps as teachers or do something like Teach For America, but permanently.

[@aquamarine0023]

TommyStrategic - totally agreed! I also think one of the other reasons this is happening is there is no money in the pension funds, they want to make sure that teachers avoid staying long enough to get paid a good salary and so they never get their pension!

[@reneedennis2011]

​@@aquamarine0023Good point.

[@HomeEcSewing]

@TommyStrategic I thought I was the only one! When I entered the classroom as an educator (at age 40) after a master's program in education, the first thing I noticed was the dissonance between what I learned about education and what was being practiced. I never fit in because I didn't just buy into the latest hype in education, or bow down to emotions over learning. After my time as a teacher, I am genuinely concerned about the future of America.

[@Caro-e3f]

It is also a ton of extra work for teachers to have to regrade the same test or a similar assignment until children pass.

[@attitudeproblem6462]

I could never stomach the patronizing from admin…

[@Healthyobsession1]

I feel for this teacher. It’s so frustrating teaching today. What we are actually teaching students is to lie and take no accountability for their actions.

[@jennteal5265]

It's gross that we're pushing theoretical grading practices across the country with little to no actual real world results and we're not learning from poor results. These young people are the victims in all this along with the teachers who are square pegs being forced into round holes by disingenuous administrators who are looking for opportunities to make money by selling books. The public hates that teachers are paid poorly but look at the exploding number of administrators who are paid ridiculous amounts of money to make teachers' and students' lives miserable for bragging rights to other administrators. Just axe the administrators, return to work based grading and use that money to pay the teachers better and pay for materials needed for the school.

[@nappyqueen86]

Yes!

[@kingscairn]

How anyone can go through life without a thirst for knowledge, a curiosity of past and the evolution of things is astounding

[@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj]

​​​​​​​​@@kingscairn most people have no curiosity and it's mind-blowing to me. People think I'm incredibly intelligent, and ask why I know so many things. I tell them that I get curious about random things I see or hear about, so I do some research. They look at me like I grew a second head, and continue to assume that I was just born with the knowledge because I'm incredibly bright (and let me tell you, I'm definitely not! 😂)

[@choicelyon2131]

Excellent discussion. I'm glad he mentioned the physical health problems; I know countless teachers, including myself, who have developed chronic physical pain/issues as a result of the stress of this job. Chronic migraines, chronic back aches, chronic stomach aches, chronic digestive issues, sleep disorders, eating disorders....no job is worth sacrificing your body's condition over. Take care of yourselves first, everyone.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Very true! Also, so many teachers I know have needed regular therapy sessions to calm them down internally. No job should amount to poor physical or mental health on the employees' parts. At that point, it's time to quit pronto to save yourself!

[@choicelyon2131]

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Yes, thank you for mentioning therapy, as well! Work is 90% of what I talk about in therapy lately lol. I'm interviewing for other jobs currently and can't wait to leave. Best of luck to your teacher friends!!!

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@choicelyon2131 ​ Thank you! And best of luck to you on the job hunt! Hopefully your next job will be much better for you on all fronts!

[@choicelyon2131]

@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 thank you! 😁😁

[@reneedennis2011]

​@@choicelyon2131Good luck to you on your job search!

[@poogissploogis]

I love that Chris talked about how his students feel about it all. Kids aren't stupid, and many of them are fully aware of how broken the system is but are powerless to stop it. We need to do so much better for them!

[@Chibling]

I decided after my teaching degree not to go onto it as I saw that it was mostly emotional dogma than an intellectual pursuit of understanding and knowledge.

[@robyost6079]

failure is not an option.... literally. Think of the message that sends these students: They literally cannot fail.

[@Rohann376]

It’s scary to think how this will pan out once these students enter the workforce

[@cynthiagonzalez658]

@@Rohann376 Employers already know what to expect (or not) from GenZ

[@themonsterwithin4000]

Let’s separate Gen z and Generation Alpha please 😭

[@Valentien23]

@@Rohann376 a great opportunity for ai to take the labor …

[@themonsterwithin4000]

@Wyrna Damn, Gen Z’s reputation is finished 😭

[@JoelEverettComposer]

As a former student I will say I do agree that if you can pass the text and know the knowledge, homework was busy work and time-consuming, but that being said - if you don't know the material - homework is vital for application of the theory and reinforcement of the material. The public school system is broken on so many levels. On the other hand - developing discipline and handling deadlines is essential for life.

[@camadams9149]

Who would have guessed that consulting was behind that collapse of an institution.

[@elwoodenchanted]

Just to add to what he said about health....I am a sub. I took a long term position for three months and the school was a total shit show, no discipline, a lot of work, no accountability for students, lots of kids who needed more behavioral support than was available. The entire time I was there, I had been trying to lose weight. I was dieting and not losing anything. After I stopped working there, I dropped 3 pounds and kept it off instantly. Chronic stress causes water retention. So during my time working there, I had lost 3 pounds dieting that didn't show up on the scale because I was retaining water weight due to chronic stress. That's fucking crazy. I can't imagine what would have happened to my health if I had to be there longer.

[@sarahquinn6989]

This is amazing! I live and teach High School in Victoria, Australia. In the last 15 years, we have done Mazarno (school brought his book for every teacher $$$), PLCs, School Wide Positive Behaviours, continuous reporting, and we have our version of evidence based reporting. It is scary how it spreads, not just across a state or country but the world. 😮

[@tamarataye356]

i wanted to teach my fifth graders to memorize their multiplication tables. Admin did not support me in that. She told me to let them play a coumputer game to learn it. There was another teacher who taught them to write the tables on the scrap paper of the test. That way on the standardized test it would look like they have their facts memorized. If sending off fifth graders to junior high with out knowing their multiplication tables is not immoral. Than I don't know what is. Shame on my ex principal and this other teacher, for caring more about the test results than the success of the students in their future careers.

[@margiedenavarre7919]

Oh my gosh, he is SO right about how new fangled ideas get passed around to more and more schools with absolutely no positive results simply to make a name for themselves (and a buck). It’s gross and immoral.

[@sngrady1]

Imagine if we fudged our finances or fitness goals like we do our grading and standards! Standards and skills aren’t arbitrary… they mean something and those of us who fight to care about our students everyday (and we all work with people who have grown hard and bitter and mean to kids bc they are just there for the paycheck at this point) are so tired of having to compromise our integrity and lower expectations. We chose this virtuous work to help build good and healthy communities… when we lose our kids, we lose our future! They need strong, consistent, and logical structures to grow in… that kind of structure isn’t oppressive it is compassionate bc it’s what we need!

[@heycarrieann]

I don't even know how to thank you BOTH for having and publishing this interview. This past week, I came home with my umpteenth emotional breakdown. (And it's over missing projects at the end of the marking period that kids just don't want to bother to do). And even though I KNOW it's not me, I keep asking myself, "Is it just me? Am I just an awful teacher?" I have two years to go before I can retire (at 55), and I honestly don't know how I'm going to do it. But I have to. I'm not going to let a corrupt system deprive me of what I've rightfully earned. But the next two years MIGHT just kill me. The health aspect is REAL! I have gained SO much weight. My health is not well right now. I very much feel like a sacrificial lamb. And the schools way of "dealing with me" is to just keep switching up my job: They've changed the grade I teach (after 17 years of teaching one grade) , added elective classes I'm not prepared to teach, while not giving me any support or preparation, and then blaming me for not meeting their expectations. Just make her life as difficult as possible and maybe she'll go away. In the end, it's the kids that lose out. I cannot believe what education in the US has become. I liken it to two things: 1) An abusive relationship. and 2) Juggling. Teachers are expected to juggle all day every day. Ok, we signed up for that. But then the powers that be throw in five more balls. Ok....I got this. Juggling, juggling. Then they add in 10 more balls. Oh boy. Ok, let's do this. Juggling, juggling. Oops. One drops. Admin: You dropped a ball. Also admin: Here's ten more balls. You dropped another one. And another. What is wrong with you? What are you going to do about those balls on the floor? You'd better not drop anymore. And so on.....At what point does the whole house of cards collapse?

[@thundermammoth]

I feel this so much. 16 years teaching HS English... I too am juggling more than ever in my career. I'll spare you the details, but I'm watching my health, mental and physical, going in the bucket over the last 3 to 4 years. And the BS from district and school admin just gets worse and a lot more every week/month. Pile that, and much of what this gentleman says in this video, and an average 33 kids Into my class periods... I feel like I've been beat up everytime I go home from work. You are not alone, and it isn't you. Wish you and all the other posters here being sincere the best. This is enough for me. Im glad and thankful for all the kids ive reached over the years... but Im exhausted. This summer, I'm putting myself through copywriting courses, and SEO web design training so I can finally get out and get healthy again.

[@Who12342]

Sending you so many good thoughts and strength for the next two years

[@heycarrieann]

@@Who12342 Thank you so much!!!! I will take all the positive energy I can get.