My mom cried when I was born, not because of the pain of childbirth, but because she knew she was giving birth to a brewmaster main, and knew how much he would suffer in the future and how much he would be oppressed.
@friezeray26 күн бұрын
as someone who only does heroic raid/+10 difficulty; brewmaster looks and feels great! :D Im sorry to my key pushing mythic clearing bretheren, you deserve better :'(
@BillyMadison-gn1zu26 күн бұрын
I thought brew is supposed to be good
@ShardsOfStone26 күн бұрын
at least your not paly xD
@pandeomonia26 күн бұрын
For the love of god yet again not another entire expansion where Brewmaster is absolute garbage. God I remember nearly every expansion just hating life with Brewmaster.
@diogoazevedo881026 күн бұрын
Warrior having more self sustain and utility than brew... what a joke from blizz
@wierdpocket26 күн бұрын
Honestly dude, this was the perfect ranking video. You covered every metric that’s worth covering clearly and succinctly. I give this video a 5/5.
@Cyrsia26 күн бұрын
I don't even play tank, still watching a dorki video :O
@PULAG22 күн бұрын
Why
@Cyrsia22 күн бұрын
@@PULAG I enjoy his videos and have more fun playing other roles :)
@Mike-cb2cr26 күн бұрын
Every other tank streamer will now have to use this video as the benchmark cause of how damn good it is! Big thanks to giving your views from every angle of tanking!
@kylebb9626 күн бұрын
Not the intro picture ☠
@kallenxtv32126 күн бұрын
top tier! xDDDDDDD
@TheTykus26 күн бұрын
Gold tier
@mwmeister875023 күн бұрын
Dude this got me so good. Here for this comment 😂
@sarlysoon534626 күн бұрын
A deep breath from main prot pally
@ucipitalmapilary26 күн бұрын
not the first time 😅 kinda used to that
@Ryked9626 күн бұрын
21:50 Finally a quick recommendation, that's all I ever wanted
@dimondblade26 күн бұрын
Brew is just my favorite tank to play followed by Blood. Still gonna play it even thought its gonna take some effort.
@Dorki26 күн бұрын
i don't think you'll be disappointed by brew despite the "ranking" i put it
@Gimpo92526 күн бұрын
Lol using the failed breakdancer as your opening picture is priceless
@Hvam26 күн бұрын
This format for a "ranking/tier list" is extremely good. Mad props Dorki.
@zenith_journey26 күн бұрын
Perfect example of what a ranking video should be. Great stuff, Dorki.
@CarlCYuro26 күн бұрын
This video was so informative! Loved the in depth analysis of each class and what it brings and why it's good. Thanks so much Dorki, love your streams!
@jacko64669726 күн бұрын
THanks for the good work :) Your opinion on rankings is always appreciated and probably useful for the most of the playerbase thats trying to push keys.
@dogemans395126 күн бұрын
Gat damn, your tier list skills have ascended into godhood lol
@Ifans1326 күн бұрын
Great video and excellent ranking format. Finally a tank streamer distinguishing and highlighting the difference between skill floor and ceiling. As a mostly pugging prot pala main the use of the Sac, spellwarding , LOH and interrupts etc can massively carry groups for certain mechanics/boss fights.
@andereperson505916 күн бұрын
Honestly this was the best Tier-list vid I've seen in a while. Very nice presentation !!
@Pvariety44126 күн бұрын
Hey Dorki, thanks for the video and appreciate the formatting. Looking forward to getting back into brewmaster in tww
@GaireDuine21 күн бұрын
Absolutely one of the best tier lists in this and really well thought out. It gave me good ideas on which main tank to take in first.
@maax46826 күн бұрын
Prayer for the Prot Pally folks
@mathewmyers140826 күн бұрын
Appreciate the prayers. We need them.
@laivasimo842726 күн бұрын
Just watch some other tank ranking video to feel a bit better...
@p.s.894926 күн бұрын
@@laivasimo8427 Like which one? I have only ever seen them come out last. That being said, we'll be probably be fine.
@robinverhoeven814826 күн бұрын
Na man the light has forsaken us 😅
@therealperrymarks1726 күн бұрын
its the only class and spec i play.....heroic tuning copium will save me
@eaberrydc26 күн бұрын
i had been making spreadsheets to try to pick my main. a lot like this. this is a great video
@DeDoubleDizzle25 күн бұрын
I felt the need to pause for The meme at 0:2, to laugh and appreciate all the hard work that went into that, thanks.
@richkaiser569016 күн бұрын
Great video Dorki. I was stuck between Prot Warrior and Bear. I think you helped me make up my mind. Going Prot Warrior
@anlkuyucu682514 күн бұрын
As a former warrior tank main, I can say it looks like a good time to come back.
@Joel103126 күн бұрын
Appreciate the video, even though I'm basically going to just be playing whatever I'm forced to raid tank on in M+ for most of the season (unless catchup for alts is less awful). Love your content. :)
@XxKing64xX26 күн бұрын
Oh I’m so glad you made this. I was sitting there half awake this morning hoping you’d make this.
@andreaslivathynos304426 күн бұрын
thank you for taking the time to make these types of videos, helps out a lot,
@JakeSezz23 күн бұрын
You know those scenes in movies where someone has reached a point of no return and they have this moment of “I’m sorry; I’m too far gone and I must continue on this path”? Yeah, that’s me with Prot Pally. Can’t stop, won’t stop 😭 Great video though, Dorki!
@wolfhc701926 күн бұрын
Really pumped about how Prot Warr is looking. Its been struggling for a bit but i was gonna focus on it if it was top or not. All in all i generally like how all tanks are right now, even though Prot Pal can use a bit more help.
@AllySzat21 күн бұрын
This is a super detailed video! Thank you for your hard work! My prot warrior will be strong 😁
@onkek26 күн бұрын
Ah, at long last. 🎉 I’m only a 3.4K brew/multi tank, but man I hope some class stigma dissolves going into TWW. Prot war also largely on my mind. Such a fun spec. Finishes video: oh god no
@RegiDD26 күн бұрын
Only 3.4k? 😂
@Temaer9926 күн бұрын
Might be copium, but I think Dorki consistently underestimates Brew.....think its just not a tank he vibes with. Not saying we will be top meta pick or anything, but i think you can justify placing a bit higher in a few of these categories when used really well
@onkek26 күн бұрын
@@Temaer99ah sure, but getting hard denied for +18 keys for 2+ hours a day outside of pushing your own will always feel bad.
@jalen40k4526 күн бұрын
Why take a Brewmaster when you could have both a better tank, and take a MistW, when they were blasting out insane HPS in season 3, and 4(maybe).
@ThomasBachler0126 күн бұрын
@@Ratatoeskrrr did you really watch the full video?
@MANIAKRA22 күн бұрын
amazing breakdown, well done
@snickersanyone26 күн бұрын
Please inform the pug bears I had to play with of their survivability bc they be droppin like flies. Great video, a lot more effort than most tier lists out there and of great help when I'm arguing on Reddit pretending like i know my shit.
@fronkacean26 күн бұрын
good video dorki
@Lusroc26 күн бұрын
Thanks Dorki! This video is excellent, and you can absolutely tell how much work you must've put into it. Keep it up!
@charred668326 күн бұрын
Very good video, I like how you explain every point very clearly and my dumbass who always needs visual support appreciates how clear this was made. Super good idea to have 2 different rankings for organized groups vs pug, I wish more people did that with their class videos to really get the message across because these videos shape the players perspective, if there's just one ranking based on organized high keys (which most are) then random casual pugs try to copy that and it just doesn't work anywhere near as good as they think it does. With a pug ranking like you did it gives a second perspective about what could be good for them when inviting random ragnaros players to brick their key. Great elevator music too, do you have a playlist?
@Gumblethebear26 күн бұрын
I will be flat out amazed if Prot Pally doesn't get some major buffs prior to M+ opening.
@Daemos6626 күн бұрын
I doubt it, or they'd already have done it. My gut tells me week 2 or 3 of season 1 as a PPal main.
@Gumblethebear26 күн бұрын
@@Daemos66 I could see it the week prior to M+ opening.
@rolandhellmann381926 күн бұрын
@@Gumblethebear I could see it doesn't happen at all, maybe Season 2. We are talking about Blizzard and after seeing how they tried to nerf BDK i don't have faith that they know their game.
@Gumblethebear26 күн бұрын
@@rolandhellmann3819 BDK is still going strong though, potentially stronger than it has been in DF relative to other tanks (for now). Prot Pally is in a bind where it needs to be a bit tankier than other specs because it does not bring an offensive damage buff, and so much of M+ has devolved into "max damage stacking". If Prot Pally doesn't overcome that gap and be able to outperform the boost provided by Chaos Brand or MoW as your tank, it falls off. BDK excels because it lets pressure off the healer a bit. Prot Pally needs to be the same, but in a support role with defensive and WoG for teammates.
@rolandhellmann381925 күн бұрын
@@Gumblethebear Sad part is i main a Prot Pala, if it gets a burden for my group i will just cancel my sub and move on. I don't want an op tank, just one that is strong enough to pull its weight and all the utility the Prot Pala gets doesn't help me in the range from +8 to +12 as this shouldn't be kite meta like +20.
@asrais18625 күн бұрын
I love you Dorki, so i subscribed and this video finally let to this decission. Thank you for the view from every angle!
@k.d481826 күн бұрын
Really love the format and rank categories!
@abdullazizal-balwa558326 күн бұрын
I love ur videos , and that intro pic is on spot.
@donovan356226 күн бұрын
props for defining how you are scoring at the beginning
@Ostoorakh26 күн бұрын
Thanks dorki your content is always the most reliable
@seriousalsa26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the detailed breakdown!
@arlannotness26 күн бұрын
Thanks for thoughtful break down Dorki! Really appreciate the information you and other top tanks have been delivering. I’m supper curious how much class and dungeon tuning will change the tanks before we even get to the start of the season. I suspect we have at least one big mover and one routine loser.
@dieterichschramm102326 күн бұрын
thank you for having time stamps, will let video ride out for max viewage
@DirtCheapFU15 күн бұрын
Pally was my second tank to level and I would have to agree. It is lacking. But Avenger's Shield is great. Like, "Oooh. Another free pizza to throw. [...] Oh and another? Why thank you!".
@SyonBroadcast26 күн бұрын
Awesome vid! 🎉 Been playin' prot pally since the end of SL expac. Really enjoy it in DF and I think its gonna be fine in TWW. I still remember the pally talent tree shuffle at the beginning of DF. Right now it's not ideal but it was much worse IMO. Lotta dead talents in prot spec, which they really should iterate. Anyway, looking forward for launch :) The new Hero talents do him credit.
@rhyno378026 күн бұрын
Sweet. Def going BrM. There is something I love about playing underperforming specs. Gunna see how high I can go with it XD I might try warrior too but BrM is too much fun.
@Dorki26 күн бұрын
brew owns hard
@Melethrion26 күн бұрын
Links disappear, I summed it up and put it into excel. As for the results of every class with negative factors for difficulty, for everyone curious about the results of the numbers game: #1 Baer: 29,3 #2 Warrior: 27,7 #3 DK: 21,3 #4 DH: 20,2 #5 Paladin: 15 #6 Monk: 13,2 Thanks for the vid!
@psivern26 күн бұрын
Could you do the list once more in ur comment, without the difficulty numbers factored in? Those numbers will only matter to most people for the first couple weeks of the season, and shouldnt discourage people from choosing an otherwise good tank for them :)
@Melethrion25 күн бұрын
@@psivern let's agree to disagree. ppl who shouldnt be discouraged by fancy meta talk vids with number games and/or pro feedback, are ppl who shouldnt feel targeted by those to begin with - as in for what they plan to or usually play it doesnt matter anyways and thats not a secret either. aim at weekly max vault and you can literally push the whole meta talk into the bin. nah-ah, it's about min/maxing here, pushing for 0,1% and beyond what makes it being made for you. you dont want that? - you dont need it. and actually couldnt care less. nothing new. everybody constantly repeats it nowadays. and rightfully so. and regarding redoing the list just to play elementary school level arithmetics: kinda feels like being trolled, tbh. did it once out of curiosity, shared it to share comfort, the rest is literally scroll to the according summary in the vid and add or remove the 1-digit numbers from the given results. you can do it. i believe in you.
@sajiro__200424 күн бұрын
@@Melethrion if it's aimed at top 0.1% players the difficulty doesn't matter
@psivern24 күн бұрын
@@Melethrion bro I just wanted to see how it looked without it, I don't need the list myself. I've gotten title 3 seasons in a row now, I level all tanks each season and just switch to whatever the meta ends up being
@crabsyoureit22 күн бұрын
@@psivern if you want to see "how it looks" without it just watch the end of the fkn video
@olleh455626 күн бұрын
Was a good list. Dont play tank, but it was good content. As an avid pug dps, I wish paladin was a top tier tank so I could continue neglecting kicks without having the healer yell at me.
@davidserra620626 күн бұрын
What a great video. Thanks for the comprehensive reviews of all tanking classes.
@select2018 күн бұрын
As someone who has mained a Prot Paladin for 5+ years now, I agree. It isn't as fun atm. I'm looking to change my main to either my DK or Warrior this expac.
@jenkinsdonut843524 күн бұрын
That Raygun intro pic was *chef's kiss*
@Saimeren26 күн бұрын
Looking good. Great run down. I basically came here to help me decide between my DK, Warrior and Druid. I played my DK in season 1, Druid in season 2 and a bit in season 3 and then Warrior more predominantly in season 3. I didn't tank at all in season 4, opting for an Enhance Shammy instead. Come TWW I'm looking to get back into tanking and was concerned with all the doom and gloom about the tank nerfs. I've been leaning toward my Blood DK, but wanted to know if the Death Strike changes impacted it enough to make it not worth playing. I typically only sit around the 2100-2300 range. I pug with 2 other buddies. We don't take the game seriously enough to push any higher, and we don't really want to. We're comfortable where we're at around the M14-16 range. So it's good to know that no matter which of my 3 chosen tanks I decide to pick, I'll be in a relatively good spot come TWW.
@Vis_Electra26 күн бұрын
This is gonna be the most pug unfriendly addon yet and I dread the day they buff the hell out of Pally... but fck it, good video!
@RickheadWashington23 күн бұрын
Just because it has been at one point, doesn't mean it's even a part of tanking. Tanking is keeping aggro so others can do damage.
@kendov28822 күн бұрын
Warriors being the best, Blizzard must want my oh so very important ass back in the game... /s Thanks for the video!
@AAKhanivore26 күн бұрын
I always hit like before I watch Dorki videos.
@N3kr4t44l26 күн бұрын
the only thing i have to disagree with is prot war self sustain is not better than guardian self sustain...most of the things said factor into the prot war survivability and not the self sustain, cause once they drop they have to rely on the healer to top them where as guardian can mostly top themselves with frenzied regen and/or lunar beam
@Dorki26 күн бұрын
yeah maybe "sustain" wasnt the best wording of this category but it's more about self sufficiency and how reliant warrior is on the team and it really isn't atm
@GreenArtsOrphan24 күн бұрын
with this dragon fly and next expansion so far. I enjoy the Druid Tank for sure, self heals are crazy with about 1 minute CD if you use it the right with and that using about 2- 3 at a time , damage again also good with stacks, and all is fun and easy- hard if you use the things right
@sonterix26 күн бұрын
One of the coolest ranking videos out there and I really love these categories ranking! Also, the video quality and graphics are great! Thank you!
@soulsharts23 күн бұрын
I'm on a mini roller coaster between tank guides from different content creators for TWW. I was 2nd guessing myself picking Druid after a Bellular guide, but after the Dorki take I'm like, don't worry man, you're fine.
@anjohnette563926 күн бұрын
Very well done video, as it really leaves no question unanswered: 5/5 for this one! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@MikexCCG26 күн бұрын
This video was so good, and as a prot Warrior I have to say I'm even more excited about TWW now. 🎉
@Tahngra26 күн бұрын
Thank you, Dorki. Let us hope they buff our pink knight at least a bit so that it's not as bad as it is know (here is me hoping blizzard reads that comments and goes... oh hell... true... protection paladins existed...)
@Honhyeol26 күн бұрын
This video was amazing, keep it up Dorki!
@joeym314726 күн бұрын
Some content creators say DH is best or bear is best. Are they all wrong cause honestly dorki is gospel
@dionysues744923 күн бұрын
The way Prot Paladin got destroyed by the nerfs you would think they were top meta for multiple seasons..
@oasane26 күн бұрын
IMO Paladin self sustain can be a lot better than others if you have no problem losing dps.
@rolandhellmann381926 күн бұрын
Like standing still and cast FoL ? srly?
@nouri133721 күн бұрын
thats how these type of videos should be
@sakuri746524 күн бұрын
U forgot about a lot of utilities for brew. Like statue which is pretty usefull in some bait scenarios (like ataldazar) also his healing feels same as BDK but he got talent which transfer his overheal to HoT so he basically wont lose as much heal as DK so his solo sustain is little bit improved. Also RoP, paralysis and dispell is good for affixes, same goes for his slow from roll. Also paralysis now dispell enrage which is only second tank who can do that. Also fair is mention tiger lust which buff 3 targets rn and can dispell roots, its nice help for some situations or for entangled affix to healer so he can keep casting or have every 10 sec heal to group similiar to word of glory or chi burst, cant forget touch of death also which help to burst important targets like totems (Bracken hollow) or adds. For his deffs. With celestial build he got 2x shield with reseting brew he can have 4x stagger dispell and 4x shield. I think you understimate him too much and giving more utility to DK or warr or DH who can basically just cc, aoe stun and every 2 min sigil and silence feels so weird...
@cyteriz9523 күн бұрын
Makes me wanna go back to my Guardian Druid after playing Shadow Priest for 3 seasons in Dragonflight.
@tylerbancino940326 күн бұрын
As a long time Prot pally main I’m going to mainly focus on gearing my War with my pally close behind. Hoping for this to be the sleeper spec and pull ahead with some buffs right before season 1
@TJR12326 күн бұрын
I really like the Skill Floor vrs Skill Ceiling. I wish DPS tiers would communicate that more clearly!
@James-kv3ll23 күн бұрын
Looking forward to your Fel-Scarred Vengeance guide.
@asnow32626 күн бұрын
Love the video…but I’m always here for the outro…it bangs
@Kberly26 күн бұрын
i plan to raid/m+ so i'm picking brew. i love the playstyle and movement.
@ItsYent26 күн бұрын
Hello Donki , I was trying to figure out which tank will get me the best chance with women as the most giga chad tank. You didn’t seem to list that category.
@Wowboxer2925 күн бұрын
Easily my favourite wow content creator. You and quazi are the tanking goats 🐐 Blood dk and prot warrior all the way
@adrian.kingdom26 күн бұрын
Amazing video, your ranking skill went into godmode
@Xenophontes21 күн бұрын
My main tank friend from "xD" guild (top 20-25 world) literally said that the saying in beta is "no matter how bad any of the tanks feel atleast they are not a prot paladin." and this makes me very upset to hear since that is the tank i really want to play.
@txdmsk24 күн бұрын
I preferred playing paladin as an off-healer. That worked really well with pugs in +20: infinite interrupts, and infinite healing. If the healer was shit and the puggers stood in every single fire, I was there to Word Of Glory the shit out of them. For example, most healers failed at the Nokhud elemental boss. With a healer prot paladin I healed more than most pug healers, lol. I remember Legion raid bosses where I was first on the heal lists (I mean, excluding self-heals, obviously). Sounds like this will not be possible anymore.
@Kyo108526 күн бұрын
finally a pug ranking, thx very nice video
@Thandwar26 күн бұрын
ok this really pushes me im my brew vs bdk decision toward bdk if only they would ease up on the button bloat
@robinverhoeven814826 күн бұрын
A good buff for prot pala would be light infusion proc on self cost no mana and a word of glory healing inc , and that would be enough for now
@MinMaxxy26 күн бұрын
Nice video well formatted and chill
@kacey6926 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your tank tier list before making my decision on a main for this new expansion! after seeing it now, I’ve decided to main rogue.
@dzinx0rrr26 күн бұрын
i heave a feeling that if Blizzard buffs paladin to line it up with the rest of tanks defensively and offensively, pally will easily become meta tank just because of his utility, especially kicks from avenger's shield and divine toll
@psivern26 күн бұрын
Yep, whenever another tank isn't broken defensively or offensively, Pala is the default meta tank (see shadowlands s2, dflight s1 and s2 before bear rework)
@juliotaraz792226 күн бұрын
Here we go boys!
@lemmy936226 күн бұрын
I played every tank up to +3k rio every season of this expansion and I never undrstood why monks are always considered hard to play. I mean paladin is harder to play imo but its always far below brewmaster. you have to rotate your defensives, you're very cooldown reliant, you have to stay in consecration, extend your wings, keep up your tier set buff, constantly have to look for casting mobs because you have infinite interrupts which also gives you holy power, you have to maintain shield of the righteous, you have to prep shining lights for incoming damage, you have a hard time to aggro on pull if divine toll and eye of tyr are on cd because your damage is very low and your avengers shield has a long cooldown and shield of the righteous is only a small frontal and consecration damage is a joke, you had to target change for each judgement to apply debuff, you had to prioritize using avengers shield before shield of the righteous to maximize damage, and with great abilities like sac and bop and lay comes great responsibility and you have to use them wisely
@Dorki26 күн бұрын
it can be clunky and awkward to understand the mechanics of brewmaster and in terms of mastery of the class theyre both challenging for sure
@DierdreWolf26 күн бұрын
I had to swap from Druid to Monk to give the buff for raid. I feel I'mma miss my druid this Xpac. :( But oh well get to learn a new tank (even if it is rated at the bottom X.x)
@normannseils393626 күн бұрын
Fuck your raid, bear-gang for life.
@sproutz292626 күн бұрын
decimals going crazy
@Nidhoh9714 күн бұрын
Just round it
@sherpagoolsbee839026 күн бұрын
Farm it up Dorki! Hope you kill it on the views during TWW launch!!
@saidtrad998626 күн бұрын
I don’t get how they still have not fixed prot paladin, such a simple fix
@TommyMcD26 күн бұрын
Peter principal. Balance team has been promoted to positions they're not qualified for. Should be laid off
@Tokorai25 күн бұрын
How are Brew's utility options 2/5? We have an aoe stun, aoe knockback/sleep, hard cc with paralysis, blessing of freedom/70% speed with tiger's lust, poison/disease cleanse, enrage removal, death grip, teleport, several different snares, 4% movement speed aura, magic debuff reflect with diffuse magic... and that's just off the top of my head.
@kalasmournrex147023 күн бұрын
As someone who pug tanks fairly high keys all the time, not having brez on my class makes me the most sad.
@EvilNewf26 күн бұрын
God I can’t decide, do I go with ol’ faithful bear or do I try War for a main for the first time ever. Decisions, decisions!
@bernardjacques386026 күн бұрын
*cries in fel* but still gonna fry things
@-Kida-26 күн бұрын
Thank you for a video!
@Ugoofy125 күн бұрын
This made picking my dps very easy thanks for the informative video.