Ranking Every Type of MTG Player

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[@chainfire9001]

When i was in middle school, we had a local (let's call him Ray) who would regularly trade with younger/newer players like me even if the trade was a bit lopsided against him. (This was back when the going rate for standard staples was $10-20). One time I asked him about it, and he said something like "i have a job, i can buy them if i need them." Us having the cards we needed to play, and thus having a better locals scene, was worth more to him than getting even value on trades. Two decades later I'm not sure if Ray still plays magic anymore, but either way I hope he knows there are people who remember and appreciate his wonderful attitude and support. Now that i have a job and can afford to just buy cards as needed, i try to do for my locals what Ray did for us.

[@cheesy_87]

That sounds very, very wholesome ❤

[@Fabregas200788]

Ray is a type of top-notch MVPs in any aspect of life not just MTG, these guys are blessed as we are to have them around if we're lucky enough this is how the domino effect of kindness works

[@Radiodragonofdoom]

Ray is a life goal.

[@adamxue6096]

The guy who got me and a few classmates into magic almost forced me to trade a Sigarda's Aid with him offering like 2 random rares Eventually I wasn't interested in the game anymore at that time and just gave him the card, man, I didn't really like that guy. Years later, I met with another guy, he was getting me and two others to play together, and he just allowed me and the two other completely new people to just take some of his collection to make fun decks with it, this brought me back to playing Magic. Eventually I repaid him with a few really good cards I pulled, but it really helped me feel like mtg was worth playing again. It's really a different experience depending on who your first table goes to.

[@dyne313]

I had a guy one time lend me his playset of Korean Rishadan Ports for a Legacy tournament. He was a true hero.

[@MrThatwasswitch]

Get this. I had an acquaintance let me borrow his pimped out tron deck. For a event happening the THE NEXT DAY… he let me take it home with me and use it in an event he wasn’t able to attend and then drop it off to him at his work.. To be clear I knew this guy but maybe only talked with him twice… all of his friends couldn’t believe he was giving it to me for the day. Anyway. Was one of the most stressful 19 hrs of my life lol. Because I very much could not afford to replace it if something happened to it

[@Wiseguy150]

Legend has it you still have them today lol

[@perryhunter1]

Had a similar experience someone letting me use a play set of 8 mana Ugin

[@chernobyl13]

I teased a judge once at a convention with some rules interaction that was basically a joke, and not only were they cool with it, they gave me a rules interaction riddle to solve in return. What a G.

[@rhythmandblues_alibi]

What was the riddle!?

[@MT-UK]

It’s comments like this that make me question why I play magic 😅

[@danw6485]

I am closest to "treats FNM like a pro tour final"; however, I have adjusted how I do this. I hold myself to competitive rules such as not untapping lands if I tapped incorrectly and not resolving beneficial missed triggers. I don't hold my opponent to that and I allow them to play at an FNM rules level. I will even remind them of a beneficial missed trigger if they do not catch it themselves. This way I can play the way I want without forcing someone else to do the same.

[@Fabregas200788]

same I always remind my oppo in my upkeep about bauble draw but if I miss - I miss, have to elevate my game, not a flex at all

[@jaxmonroe7263]

Hall of fame

[@duesexistat5016]

There’s nothing wrong with holding folks to a higher standard at FNM. We pay money into it and there are prizes on the line. Also, the game has rules which both players should be aware of if they signed up for FNM.

[@dudecickle]

"In response" *sips coffee very loudly* "I do nothing."

[@Wizardbeard91]

"In response" * watches other player shit pants then flips the bird*

[@jaytotheareokay]

Sometimes I say "okay at the end of your end step..." And then I tap out, shuffle through my cards, and then I just start my turn.

[@ghost64626]

Ended up losing an EDH game due to someone casting the Japanese Mystical archive version on time warp, but the player thought it was tenporal manipulation. I would have been able to interact with the time warp with an imps Mischief to change the target, but he told us it was the wrong card. If you're playing foreign language cards, know what they do

[@EverianKalim]

I once took a Japanese chandra to a tournemant, Made sure to keep an English Copy with my for Ref and and judge calls.

[@leavemealoneyouprick]

i often play with this weeb who bought a bunch of shit from japan... in japanese... so now we have to wait for him to google every card he draws and plays..........

[@GubbiGap]

@@EverianKalim That's honestly a great idea! Or have the card ready as a picture on the phone with the same art but in English if you can't efford to buy it. I'm writing that down for myself in case I ever need it!

[@jemm113]

Careful when you bring extra cards to tournaments enforcing decklists, chiefly for constructed 75 card formats. If you have spare cards in your deck box a judge can call you for having too many sideboard cards. EDH shouldn’t have this problem most of the time since it’s singleton, but for Modern, etc. it’s important to understand.

[@jaytotheareokay]

I kinda hate having foreign language cards in play. Like cool for your collection or whatever but I haven't memorized every single card art and what they all do, so I want the rules for the card printed on it.

[@Technomagus]

One of the missed archetypes: Values your cards like a store's buylist, values their cards at full retail. One of the main reasons I basically refuse to trade anymore due to how often I run into them.

[@lukecwolf]

I think they can be grouped with the 5 cents off trade. I've seen those trade value players waste up to an hour trading their $60 card just to get exact value

[@glacen]

Entertaining video and loved all the player types you came up with! I would add a few like "the rules expert who always gets called over when obscure or weird interactions happen" and "the one who says they don't run combos then combos on turn 3 for the win".

[@PleasantKenobi]

Those ABSOLUTELY should have been on here.

[@Sn00gans]

"My deck is a 7." *casts silence* *Casts Thassa's Oracle* *Casts Tainted pact* "Why is everyone mad at me?"

[@epicyoung]

I wonder where they'd land on this list since they're both me

[@Dracinard]

Urgh, that guy. Once, at my LGS, I was getting a commander game together, saying I wanted to run a precon to test it out and asking if everyone was OK with that and if everyone had similar power decks. We all agreed to play a precon level game. Then that guy comboed off on turn 4. We then had a rematch, and removed his combo pieces as soon as they came down, combining our removal, building our own engines and slowly pulling ahead. So he left the game halfway through. Dick.

[@manwithbrisk3418]

I actually didn't know there was a term for Manaweaving. Had a guy do it to me at an FNM once. He set it all up and then just cut a bunch of times and presented it. Watched his face sink when I gave it a few proper shuffles and passed it back instead of cutting. He lost, felt good. I really should have reported him but I was young.

[@deeterful]

That's awesome. Another way to mess with them is to just do a three pile pile shuffle. Assuming their mana weave is 2:1.

[@Victoriens]

He technically didn't do anything wrong since he presented the cut to you; you took appropriate action and shuffled it, as was your right upon being presented the cut, but had you chosen to simply cut it without shuffling, you would have tacitly agreed to allowing him to play with a mana-woven deck, which is sufficient to pass above-board, rules-wise.

[@manwithbrisk3418]

@@Victoriens That you think 12 year old kids at an FNM are tacitly agreeing to being cheated on because they don't know it's happening says a lot about you as a human being. Thanks for reminding everyone why magic players have a horrible reputation.

[@Victoriens]

@manwithbrisk3418 I don't see what relevance being a child has to do with knowing the rules of Magic; if the child didn't know that the rule was that a player must offer the cut to their opponent, and that the opponent had the right to either shuffle or cut the deck presented to them, or to pass on the cut and thus assent to beginning the game with the opponent's deck as-is, then that is an issue of not knowing the rules of the game, not with the player being a child.

[@manwithbrisk3418]

@@Victoriens Listen man, I know how it was back then. I was right there down in the shit too. I can't say I've never shot an angle before. I'm not proud of it, it's what we had to do to survive back there. But just because that's how you and I came up doesn't mean that's how it's gotta be for everyone. Don't you want the world to be better? Don't you want future generations to not have to go through what we did? Don't you wanna try to scrub a few of those stains off your soul? Can't you just admit that taking advantage of children learning a card game is wrong? You can. I know you can. I believe in you.

[@Aedanthefirst]

Desolator Magic's despise of Netdeckers and Nægate never is unfunny

[@Sn00gans]

I don't know why he hates Negæte so much. The spell LITERALLY DOES NOTHING.

[@camdenharper7244]

So true. But at the same time I had to stop watching him because of it. One time I pointed out to him that his (at the time) favorite modern deck, Seal team six, was just a shitty infect deck. He insisted it was completely different

[@Trainwithseb]

He hates everything. Anyone who watches him needs to check their head.

[@theelectricant98]

Unmatched to his hatred of minorities

[@zets8238]

Is that loser still around? Honestly forgot he existed since i haven't watched MTG content in a few years.

[@Mio_Takahashi_]

Yeah the free binders one is circumstantial I guess. There are people who are uncomfortable with any kind of handouts, but on the flip side Giving a new red player a play set of lightning bolt, one of the cheapest staples, will probs make them enjoy Magic infinitely better and gain a newfound hope in the community

[@wetwillyis_1881]

I just got out of MTG, yesterday and this video is perfect. All the players are a unique group, who can teach you something, but I feel like all the good players from my area left. I was taught by the nicest guy on the planet, so when I played, I always tried to be like him. Once I got into competitive play, everything fell apart. No one is like that in that world and it’s frustrating. You forgot the “no game should last longer than 3 turns Guy.” Yes, that was me.

[@nickna7387]

Depends on the format, modern/standard aggro probably won't go more than 3 turns anyway

[@lukecwolf]

Same. less than 1/5 of any group i go to is remotely competitive; edh, pioneer, modern, etc.. I'm certain WOTC knows their casual base too. I'm sad my competitive friends are dwindling or gone, but also I'm happy to put my money elsewhere.

[@wetwillyis_1881]

@@lukecwolf Yeah, I just sold my entire collection, last month. I got a lot less than what I wanted for it all, but I needed to money for school.

[@dudecickle]

I want every card to be affordable to play with. I also want alternate versions that look cool af to have good value.

[@nickhaze2491]

Thats very fair, I'm the same way. Every single card in magics history should be available to play and affordable to obtain, but collectors can still be pleased with their extra rare/valuable foils/alt arts/original printings whatever.

[@DarBowsong]

This is the way Also why I love games like Pokemon and One Piece

[@IzzysIssues]

I watched this whole video while playing against a Tatyova value deck on Historic Brawl and I can safely say that I've gotten through four whole turns

[@CookieOutaSight]

I like your serious content but you were born to shred the community in this way 10/10

[@ProfessorCFT]

With Jump-start I opened two Craterhoofs and like 8 more cards around that same value at the time. We have a local kid who always struggled to keep up in power level due to money. Being the player who gave dollar cards from my binders here and there, he'd look in my binders a lot. Should have seen the look on his face when he reached the Hoof and in the spur of the moment without thinking I just went "oh you wanted one of these" and pulled it out

[@rhythmandblues_alibi]

Legend 🙌

[@hallaloth3112]

I definitely just run themed decks, I wouldn't say I'm obnixious about it though. I will also almost always allow takebacks until you do the same thing a second time. . .mainly because as someone who can't see most of the table and hates picking up everyone's card every time I go to swing/block I appreciate people showing the same courtesy back.

[@zotha]

"Complains about curling foils, still buys collector boosters" I feel seen, like I just put on the One Ring and Sauron knows exactly where I am.

[@princequincy5421]

As the person who runs 0 interaction, i pride myself on having made my peace with the risk of being blown out every time i go full send

[@fuzzyhughes3622]

I have like 3 main decks with minimal interaction. My life gain has one removal spell but it has reaction at least (teferis protection etc), Doran seige tower (swing face and pray) and korvold Lands. I don't need interaction if I just win instead. The turn it goes off looks like a modern yugioh turn starting with nothing, playing one thing, combing off and just digging until lethal. Once had a game where I ended turn 1 with 7 lands and a one drop enchant and 0 in hand or graveyard. Won turn 2. Usually takes til turn 4 though (gotta keep korvold out for a turn... its how I balance the deck. Kill korvold and I lose 80% of my draw)

[@thade7062]

I love combo so i just run pact of negation , i only need to stop them one time on my turn right >??

[@matteorossi1172]

The one that counterspells mana rocks is my favourite to play againist

[@midichlorianice]

Loved this, the spread is great and I love when there are some jokes amongst friends in these. Missing the "person who says the secondary market cost of an expensive card after someone else casts it" friend ;)

[@RaddaCrazy]

Don’t forget me and my people. - Buys 8 different hyper specific singles every week. No sorry, I just don’t have any decks in a playable state right now. AND - I combo but don’t tutor for it so it’s OK, right?

[@lordpokesmoke]

“I don’t have a deck this single goes in, but I might build one someday” do it all the time

[@robertgamsby51]

"I combo but don't tutor for it so it's Okay, right?" You called?

[@Tryc3]

Found ur channel recently, love ur spastic rambling, gonna binge all ur videos and complain about ̶n̶e̶t̶d̶e̶c̶k̶s̶ wanting more videos. Cheers.

[@pierrehelie521]

"doesn't run interaction, complain anyways" aha! jokes on you! I'm playing more and more interaction and somehow never get them (or the appropriate ones) and thus still lose to weak jank combo that needs five or six pieces! ... seriously, I recently built a rakdos with 15/20 removals (don't have the exact number in mind) in it and I had most of my games going crazy about dropping one removal at best during games .-. my luck is that bad x)

[@ThisIsUprising]

Probably the guy that gives away free cards. Most of the stuff I give away is only a couple bucks, trading them into a shop just isn’t worth it. Seeing someone smile after they get the card they need for free is always priceless, and usually brings joy to both people. Something I think should’ve made the tier list though, “the obnoxious card flicker/hand shuffler”. Like surely if you flick your cards enough times, they’ll magically change into the cards you’re looking for, huh?

[@jamesmoore1476]

That really is annoying, some people do it on purpose to piss off their opponents so they'll make mistakes, fucking lame.

[@abbiemcdaniels3122]

“Counters spells by saying “nope” and tossing the counter on the table”

[@Minijibbleflab]

The tries to stump judges is literally me. I love the obscure interactions and once trolled me L2 who owns the store bc I silenced my opp on their upkeep and my opp tried to suspend. You can't suspend bc even though you aren't casting a spell it is the same timing as casting. My friend the L2 was so confused for awhile 🤣

[@raedien]

Daaaaaaaaamn nice

[@fuzzyhughes3622]

I just ask for super weird niche effects and rulings. Like switching life totals counts as gain/loss depending on how the total changed and activates only certain effects but not others (like dmg based ones do nothing but tainted remedy is funny haha). Built a deck solely based on ife total shenanigans cause I bought a foil soulgorger orgg for 10 cents (6 drop red creature that on etb, makes your lifetotal one. If it leaves the battlefield, you regain all the life you lost when it entered) also love unearth and blink interactions (traitor king plus eldrazi and new thassa gp brr) The only ruling I hate is protection doing nothing againsta. Creature with trample. Isn't intuitive to me. Also I have the dream deck of ruling chaos. Humility and making all enchantments creatures plus a whole bunch of super niche replacement and world effects. It's a Stax deck called No Fun and "wins" with divine intervention. Usually I just play jank or simple decks though

[@NSG0079]

I'll raise your "Questionable anime sleeves and playmats" with some OFFICIAL art of Beelstarmon from the Digimon TCG! 🍈🍈

[@DifunctedReble]

The first types in Hall of Fame. ✊ Ended up bringing 40 modern decks to work and just started shuffling during lunch. Got some newbies interested in it and some old timers that had stopped playing. I'd hit the 1-40 RNG to see what I'd play and let them choose what they'd want. Eventually I was holding free draft nights 2-3 times a week on everything from Ixalan to AFR (be it onsite or at the LGS; when upper management eventually locked down the facility). Holding standard tournaments for Collector Boosters was a blast. My kouhais got me a Mythic Edition Ugin for my birthday (at the time it was priced ~$150) and they had to practically tape it to my hand so that I couldn't refuse it. Good times. Good people.

[@the_fat_wizard]

The best people are those who actively aid others getting into the hobby. I got my start in MTG when the older brother of my friend let us dig through his collection. We built decks and played, and this guy said I could rummage through "the box" and grab any of the stuff I found interesting. Dude wasn't fond of zombies and there were some absolute gems in there (considering this is around when 10th edition was brand new). Running a zombie tribal with a Soulless One playset, a couple Undead Warchiefs and a Gravespawn Sovereign in your first deck is probably something not many get to experience.

[@GubbiGap]

Story time from my commander play group: I used to play in this playgroup and the first time I took my deck with me to the shop I met this one guy who was so happy to see a new face and the first thing he did was ask if he could see my deck which he did and then he gave me abour 10$ worth of upgrades for it and I was so happy and hyped to play after that! I was so grateful to him and we became good friends. Later this very young kid came around who was very clearly good at the game and my friend gave him like 750$ worth of cards and the kid didn't even thank him. I felt so bad for my friend because he never got the same excitement for helping new players. Also I'm mostly the meme player I think because I always try to build funny decks. I have stuff like a mono-blue Horsemanship Voltron deck, a Narset Enlightened Master flavor deck, mono-blue Sphinx tribal, a red goblin deck with Squee, The Immortal as the commander etc. I have like two decks that are actually good but I prefer the meme ones any day of the week! I like them because I care more about the table having fun than winning and should the meme deck win everyone will be excited because it's rare :D again this is commander so the social contract is a bit different - all I know is my playgroup thought it was a great time :D

[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

I once faced someone who manaweaved, but they were obviously new and shuffled : one land one spell one land one spell, without really looking at the spell, they really just wanted lands to play the game withotu being mana screwed. It was a draft and I was relatively new (just experienced enough to know what they were doing wasn't really "correct") so I had an intense internal debate on wether I should call the out or not, realising that getting one spell then one land untile the end of the game was just the best way to lose the game and not wanting unnecessary conflict I just took the free win. Still feel a little bit guilty because I'm pretty sure they didn't know that what they were doing was basically cheating and also screwing them over.

[@TheDerpyDeed]

I often organise my decks (at home) to make sure all cards are there, or to keep track of my amounts of certain types - after that I manaweave and then thoroughly shuffle... If someone manaweaves, make them shuffle, cut their deck a bunch, I feel that's fair.

[@hallaloth3112]

​@@TheDerpyDeed That's kinda how I handle a newly constructed deck or when they're being updated. I actually mix pile shuffling and weaving and then shuffle the piles together. I have small hands and can't physically shuffle a sleeved commander deck without dropping half the deck 80% of the time. Once its 'built' I'll do my best to shuffle 'normally' though I will resort to pile shuffling. Also only play kitchen though. . .

[@huddleaw]

I haven't watched the whole vid yet but I'm hoping there is a "Would you mind tracking my life total on your notepad too?" person. 😂

[@PleasantKenobi]

Oh fuck that's a good one.

[@davidmitchell621]

Gotta add the "d20 for life people". Screw notepads and smartphones

[@MV_Magic7337]

Ah the Judge’s Gotcha. Playing at an LGS on a random Tuesday, I’m playing Voltron, and the Stax player plays a Humility. I was wondering how some of my Equipment synergized with it and what my creatures actually were, so I called over the judge. THE LOOK ON HIS FACE when all I said was “judge? I have a question about Humility”. Absolutely PRICELESS. Actually helped me win that game, too, because Stax can only do so much against a bunch of big bonk sticks.

[@CocoMura]

Giving free cards away at FNM. I saw some young noobs, middle schoolers stitching together whatever they could. Dropped this one kid playing mono white a world slayer to upset the balance in their play group. I started mono white, had a single copy of Day of Judgment, and that shit was so gas. Saw myself in that kiddo. Had to give him the repeatable world ending sword.

[@nathannjh]

I’m almost on the list. I believe commander is a mistake and we need more people who bring cubes to game stores.

[@duesexistat5016]

I’d add “players that don’t mention they’re running a combo deck at a casual table”.

[@duesexistat5016]

It’s amazing how often I see it, even after we’ve all had the pre game discussion on power level. Then all of a sudden we’re all just getting established boards and someone’s like “this and this and it goes infinite. Any responses?” Everyone just looks at them like really?

[@duesexistat5016]

True, very annoying. I actually have quit the game since this video came out and I have to say it was a good decision (for me anyway). Personally, as amazing as the game truly is, I found that a vast majority of the time you experience the feel bads. Spend time, energy and, MONEY, into crafting your decks with care only to have someone else just get there quicker, or combo out, etc. Anyway, didn’t mean to rant. Bless you and good luck in your games.

[@seathblood]

To be fair to the trade binders with cards not for trade: I used to do this a lot, and it wasn't for flexing. I wanted to keep cards together that I planned on using, whether they were for a deck I was building, or for random use. My trade binder was just an easy place to keep them. Those cards tended to be in the back, separated by a blank page so that it was clearly distinct. This was especially useful when I was building towards a deck, because then after the trade, I'd presumably have cards I wanted for the deck, and a quick convenient place to put them right away.

[@tambutt9822]

Yeah, I have a single binder (for yugioh) that I keep the cards that are not in my current decks, but that are useful and that I want to keep around, in. It's not flexing, it's pretty much the opposite :(

[@AlluMan96]

Yeah, it's generally good to try and separate the trades from the reserve cards as best one can. Having them at the back is good, though it's also something that's worth noting if you're gonna show your binder to someone willing to trade/buy. If there's something I wouldn't be willing to just part with either because it'll come in clutch or something I actually want at least some value off of, I have them in a spare Dragon Shield package, sleeved in all the leftovers from said boxes. Just want to be clear about the things on offer, because it can be frustrating in the trade situation to just be continually declined on offers.

[@Kadaver6]

I used to be that guy that had the stacked trade binder but no not this one. I realized how annoying it was to constantly say “no not that one, I have plans” and I ended up buying a separate binder for all the cards I wanted to keep for whatever reason and dedicated one to just all the trades. Now I hand anyone that dedicated trade binder and tell them everything’s up for trade.

[@kyleellis1825]

I had cards that I was hesitant to trade in my binder. They were ones I'd only trade for another key piece to a deck and I'd be clear about that. when I handed the binder over. "I have about 20 cards that I'm not trading for money value but for deck synergy value. I want to put them in a deck in the future but if you have an upgrade for one of my other decks, I'll do that trade."

[@lukedadge3446]

I’m definitely trying to play meme decks long live modern bee combo 😊

[@deeterful]

You definitely missed archetypes for sure. Especially archetypes among casual and retro/old school players. Of the ones you listed I'm the "lets players take back bad moves" guy. In my casual group we have the ultimate giga-chad hero, he'll buy boxes or commander decks and split them up amongst our group. Every time I pull a fatty rare or mythic he's looking for, which seems to be often, I kick them his way because he's way too generous.

[@theguywiththetail]

I love making decks. The "puzzle" of figuring out how to make something work and what to use is fun for me. That said I have like 30+ decks and I typically use only 5 of them. Many I play once and never again, some I rework if they played poorly and try again, but there are those that I really like and work well.

[@jamesgreenwood1703]

Free card trade binder when I see new people. My favorite thing is showing them all the biggest, funnest, splashiest cards and asking which one they like the best so I can give it but definitely am not a free handout type

[@unstopable_rob]

I'm neither of these players, I'm the guy who only plays one deck that i put my heart and soul fine tuning

[@donnovanash2334]

Taking back a bad play in our group is dependent on you either only having bad targets for a spell before castle (a beneficial spell forgetting you have shroud/a negative spell when your opponent has hexproof) or casting multiple spells, having none resolve, and slightly miss ordering them. And of course you can't take the same play back twice, if you made a mistake twice in a short time frame you need the lesson

[@tcm2336]

I think lending decks to well meaning people at FNM is so rewarding! (so long as the player is respectful of your deck). I remember lending my quite expensive, but strong selesnya deck to a new player who was just getting into commander and kept getting steamrollered. I was hesitant initially as lending out my nice decks can go badly sometimes and had in the past, but I took a risk - so worth it! The look on their face when they played the deck and it won was worth it. From that, I'm pleased to say, 6 years on and they are now a regular at my local LGS and have their own broken decks which they have built.

[@kyleellis1825]

In highschool, we had a teacher buy a booster box every time a set came out and he stamped the backs of all of them (so we wouldn't steal them.). By the time I graduated, the learning assistance room had 5 years worth of magic cards and everyone was allowed to build a couple decks and leave them in the classroom. 1st of every month, the decks got taken apart so people could draft/do a fresh round of constructed. It was great for helping people with math and reading.

[@ehwestrich]

Spends a lot of money on collecting MTG cards, but rarely plays. That is me.

[@VeGiTo3Po2]

23:45 if done that, but out of necesity, i was traveling so some of my important cards were on my trade binder, and when ppl asked for em i had to say no, not that one.

[@derrick6506]

The players who always complain about the shuffler in Arena. These players are also often mana weavers in paper because their reasoning for why they believe the shuffler is broken is, "this never happens when I play paper...". It doesn't happen on paper because you're stacking the deck!

[@zacharymcvicker5820]

I'm that weirdo that will help you fix your deck while siding to give you the best shot at beating me.

[@GeorgeAlone2277]

man the Theo comment made me laugh so hard i paused the video. remember when he bought a fucking tabernacle to play lands and then sold it like 2 weeks later

[@PleasantKenobi]

I showed him this. Lol.

[@terrifyingsnail9601]

Bit late but im a loremaster personally. This game has such a complex and intriguing storyline and some people are just so opinionated about it it is amazing

[@Orengi-kun]

I am definitely the "don't trade that one" type of guy, because I'm lazy and haven't updated my binders in a long time.

[@calebross8174]

I remember I quit magic for like 4 years. One day I got an itch to play, so I drove 1 hour to play in a pre release. Packed some high valued shit. Well I went 4-0 and my last match my opponent accused me of cheating. I told them that why would I cheat, I don’t give a fuck about this game. But he was like that stores pro, and didn’t believe I beat him fairly. After the tourney, I found a new player and gave him my winnings, and the stuff I packed, even the special promo I got, that he wanted, right in front of him. Made me feel awesome. Fuck that guy.

[@KangaskhanEspeon]

JUND NEVER DIES. Also think I come under battle of wits in edh, we have a more than decade old table rule that if someone plays game of chaos it has to go until someone dies and whoever dies signs the card. Everyone loves it and it's fucking hilarious in some board states, but you gotta read the room. There's also a player type that isn't here that we nurture in our LGS, especially bc we see a LOT of kids coming through. Which is that someone usually puts their hand up to drop maybe $20-30 (Australian so it's less) when there's a kid with a pile that needs it to be a deck. We'll sit with them and help them with what they have. if they have cards they like bc Timmys always have favourites we use it as a build around, and yeah we'll throw that little bit of dosh at getting the kid glue cards. It probably comes under gives you card from their trade binder, but we see it as a way to invest in the store both by buying singles fromt he store and for getting kids to come back and become more regular players for the future. We also recently lost a mate of ours tragically and he was the embodiment of a lot of the best things in the community so we're gonna keep nurturing the young players in his honor.

[@Rococorico]

"Only offers help when actually asked for", had to learn and practice it, but I think I got there.

[@spackal2946]

When I was younger I once accidentally bent a basic land when shuffling (dropped it and by reflex squeezed my legs together and bent the card into a U shape). Ever since then I’ve never borrowed a deck, just the thought of doing that so someone else’s dual makes me anxious lol

[@YepNah]

In addition to "always lets you take back a bad move" and somewhat the "treats FNM like its the Pro Tour" I think an important thing is consistency. I don't personally care where you sit on this as I can respect either position, but I really hate the players who want to stick 100% to the rules but will they themselves ask to take back missed triggers, improperly tapping their lands, etc. If you're going to make your opponent stick to the rules than you really need to hold yourself to the same standard. I myself almost always let someone take back moves as long as we don't need to go back too far or really reverse a bunch of game actions, but I've had to learn through experience which people to say "no" to as they won't for others.

[@PMcDFPV]

I see alot of these at my LGS, but luckly its a mix of the good ones for the most part. Love the videos man!

[@EmberAwoken]

I got involved with MTG my first year of college during Theros block… and I’ve not played a game since. I just love collecting and the lore. The “Game Club” was half just MTG playing EDH and it was honestly the worst newcomer experience anyone would hope for. No one joined them because they all knew everything and knew every text by heart and possible counters to the point that we would have no idea what’s going on. They would not slow down to provide enjoyment to anyone besides themselves. I’m sad we didn’t have a better playing experience :(

[@aidankeyes5526]

Ouch, it was me he roasted. The whole time, I am all of them

[@thomascombs7159]

Well, I got two small bits to say. First and foremost, I think allowing players to take back bad plays is sometimes crucial in commander. I often allow it, because sometimes the board just gets downright wacky, and it can be overall healthy for the board if some plays are allowed to be walked back. Cards are so convoluted these days that making the right choice on what creature to remove can be tricky. Mind you, I'm not big on the idea of taking back entire turns, but it can be helpful to allow retargeting while the spell is on the stack. For example, someone tries to Path to Exile creature A. Creature B is clearly a bigger issue, so point it out and allow them to switch targets. Second thought is on mana weaving. I do it myself, but generally only after modifying decks. When new cards come out, I tend to break the deck down, and look at creatures, lands, artifacts, etc, and tend to manaweave afterwards just to better break those piles back up.

[@noobie7727]

Im the always lets you take back a bad move guy. Ive always played more for the fun of the game and seeing what peoples decks can do so i like it working the best for them. Im also the "oh god this deck box has 600 dollars of cards in it" guy

[@mtgboosterpackcrackin]

You appear to have missed "Limited Only"....was waiting to see where you would place that one.

[@Ketoinvestor]

We all know the people who rock up to FNM or prerelease with rank-ass BO (they are the norm, sadgely) but what about the people who actually take the time/make the effort to not be foul? Always in the pod 👍 PS. People who add the -dge to words? Report them lol

[@rumad-_-bro2062]

The guy who plays sub optimally and avoids quickly winning to let his friends pop off

[@dessydragon]

i am many of these things-some you hate and some you praise!

[@QuantumFantasy]

23:29 this is definitely me. The defender deck I'm really trying to make competitive. The Transformers/Voltron/human soldier (GI Joe) deck I call Saturday Morning Cartoons

[@dantebeleren]

Loremaster in Hall of Fame??? I'm honored! Thank you! Thank you! 🥲

[@BenAndSix]

on the topic of mana weaving I used to not see why it was a problem as long as you shuffled properly until I watched a video where someone explained it as: -Mana weaving de-randomizes a deck by ensuring that lands are distributed evenly. -To fairly randomize, you must shuffle until the mana weaving has no longer affected the order of the cards. -If you are going to shuffle until the mana weaving has no longer affected the order of the cards, there was no point in mana weaving.

[@DarBowsong]

I feel like you missed a couple: The quintessential blue player. You know the guy, you play a spell, he needs to think about it, then inevitably he says some real pretentious sounding shit like "I'll allow it" or "It resolves" Or my personal (if niche) favorite: plays every game like they have miracles in the deck. I still check my card before I draw it. Every. Single. Time. Even in other card games that don't have and never had the miracle mechanic.

[@davidarmstrong3964]

With mana weaving is it ok if you then shuffle after. I’m not the best shuffler so after a long game where I play a lot of lands it takes a few games of shuffling to spread them back out.

[@PleasantKenobi]

It's a waste of time. Stop it.

[@JetAlmighty]

I rarely play, I tend to get my fix playing in only sealed pre releases as basic exposure. As such, I feel personally called out for playing an ancient standard deck in (casual) modern. It's sort of a kitchen table deck nowadays. I hardly touch my Birthing Pod deck after it rotated out of standard so it's not legally modern... But it's power level doesn't even remotely compete with post-MH2 modern despite having the banned card. I've never used it against pioneer decks just for comparison sake, but sounds like an interesting experiment.

[@kylewhite602]

Needs a "bemoans anime tiddies but is okay with bearscape" person. Or, "says it's okay to be angry about most things, but not black aragorn"

[@fabioeberlin7504]

I'm the one who uses a lot of foreigner cards in the deck. But only when I can read said language, and if someone doubts, I show the gatherer info, so that's all good :D

[@matthewyoho5422]

No Vince, we have in fact not "all done it", when it comes to playing without sleeves: I started playing Magic in my 30s, my cards never got shuffled without at least 1 layer of plastic surrounding them.

[@maxlanglois958]

I've learned not to hate on netdeckers, but I still prefer brewers. And I still despise the people on MTGA playing a T1 deck against my weird brew that exists solely to test an interaction and spamming "Your Go" as if they were the supreme masterminds of Magic: The Gathering

[@patrickbaillargeon7568]

The "if I had just drawing this one card I could have done ABCD EFG HIJK LMNOP QRS TUV WX YZ and I would have totally won that game" guy Or The "I literally can't do anyting" with a board full of permanents and a handful of cards guy

[@nickvanschaick6322]

This brings back memories of a player I used to see at FNM. He started as the bog-standard obnoxious 'I hate netdeckers' player, which eventually escalated into him saying (to my face) after a match he lost due to his own misplays 'I wish this game were about skill and not money' before storming off. Then he showed up next week with a copy of my deck (RtR/Theros Esper control) but FOIL. He proceeded to scrub out dramatically, of course. We wound up playing a mirror match, and he kept forgetting his Obzedat re-entry trigger. I gently reminded him 3 turns in a row. Later in the match, -I- forgot once and right after drawing said 'whoops' and went to correct myself, to which he immediately yelled 'JUDGE!' at the top of his lungs. After the judge did the obvious thing and told me to just put it on the stack before proceeding with my turn, he came at me with the 'I'm not trying to be that guy...' as if he hadn't just tried to steal the game from me with an angle-shoot after I gave him grace 3 times for exactly the same error.

[@Loki-]

21:40 I met a player who did this because he only played Arena, it was his first pre-release in person, and only had money for the pre-release box. All good. He was a great player who was nervous and excited to finally play in person.

[@reversalwizrd7651]

I have four decks in legacy and modern. I always hand out a deck to people who don’t have one for the format. I just want people to play the game and play it at every level I’m glad we aren’t seen as flexing and just having it all

[@fehlbrandschwele]

Uhhh double Hall of famer right here! I didn't realise I was such a nice person ^^

[@Phoenix-MX1]

1. Had a guy at a local cedh give me a chain of smog to help boost my deck. 2. Im the "lets you take a play back" with reluctance because sometimes it messes up the board entirely because they forgot a step or whatever also because this one time I got board wiped after i let someone do their end step after they had passed.

[@Lunamowon]

I aspired to become the person lending out decks. Since that's how I got into the format. I think I've achieved it now. I go to modern tournaments with a binder of cards to loan out and a case of extra tier 1 decks. I love my community and it's my way of growing it

[@AlluMan96]

I definitely have a mix of "Gives you free cards from trade binder," "Entire deck is in foreign language" and "Ask to borrow everything." I tend to try and introduce my hobbies to my friends and in understanding that it is an expense, will do stuff like sponsor small 2-4 man drafts and let people rummage my trunk for value cards. The foreign language one is just the european Cardmarket experience. Sometimes you forget to check the language of the card, sometimes it's just an honest mistake of the seller, but I don't make much of a fuss of it so long as half my deck isn't spanish and german cards. The borrowing is just my absent-mindedness. I will misplace, forget and overall just screw up everything given the opportunity. Friends have to phone me about shit I leave at their places, I will sometimes just show up to Magic sessions with half my decks and dice forgotten on my kitchen table, you basically have to staple my belongings onto me if you want me to never forget them. So, many times, I'm forced to ask for tokens to help get started.

[@ericthordarson7557]

ive built a million decks over the course of my 25 years of playing magic and im at a point where i dont even enjoy building them anymore. i find random decks on moxfield and play them over moxfield. playing other peoples decks has an element of surprise thats super fun lol

[@NathanJenkinsonAnalytics]

I like to sarcastically be the “my deck is a 7/10” person, when I’m playing my yoshimaru “pet the dog” deck XD I’m also definitely a complainer about meta decks. I don’t mind that people pay them, I mind that WOTC doesn’t ban more aggressively to keep the game balanced. I don’t want to play my brew against the same deck over and over. I don’t mind getting beaten because I’m playing something I enjoy rather than a tier deck, I’m making the choice to do that, but I’d like to see some variety in my matchups.

[@vengerofthelight]

Y'all missed a category of player: Person who hasn't played MTG in years but still watches this channel.

[@soulbanana8839]

surprised "magic was better when x card/deck didn't exist" isn't an archetype

[@Chilledsky2]

I really appreciate everyone at my local store that gives me their art cards :) I have binders for all the art card sets in order and It really helps fill out the collection

[@someone56243]

As a noob it's good to see the unwritten etiquette rules

[@Nr4747]

How exactly is it "bearable" when someone plays exclusively foreign language cards without knowing what they do ? I had this happen a couple of times in tournament settings and it was always a huge pain in the ass. Those people are the absolute worst.

[@Akoustikus]

In 1v1 formats, I'm all foils in the pauper deck or no sleeves no playmat riffle shuffle and nowhere inbetween. In commander I'm the angle shooter for sure. Almost all the games i win are because i effectively avoid/defer being detected as a threat until its too late.

[@hwowwhwoo]

the unsolicited advice people go to superhell. I don't know if it's because I'm a woman and I've had things I understand very well explained to me by random men throughout my entire life, but it is the most annoying thing people do when I'm trying to just have fun at a fnm

[@donnovanash2334]

Just to be clear, using rule zero and banning a card somebody hates is not always the same as using it specifically to ban a card somebody hates, sometimes the card is just strait up broken and decks cannot compete with it, usually if we ban a card in somebodies deck, we either allow them to replace it, or run with a smaller deck

[@Nikigettingbetter]

I’m for sure “Gives away free stuff from trade binders,” I have even had friends and partners describe that behavior to me as my “love language”

[@InsanityStreak95]

Gives you free cards from trade binder should be hall of fame... In relation to new players. I remember when I started playing, way before EDH precons etc and everything was built from the ground up. I had a 99 card pile of jank with Thraximundar as my general... It was bad. (I was also young too) and I remember a handful of the really experienced players giving me some staples and tips (cheap staples back then but very efficient). It still has had a profound affect on me to this day and I always try and do the same where and when I can :).

[@maxvincent6903]

Definitely let my new friends play my krenko goblin party

[@Bobbyo2014]

Once I got into mtg i would take my bulk and build some decks and play with people who worked at the summer camp I work at. If they seemed into the game I would just let them have it. It was fun to see them play it later on.

[@VagrantKing]

People who are bad winners, like won’t say good game or won’t even acknowledge you outside the game. Guy at my LGS used to refuse to say anything more than mandatory game actions to me whenever we played and would shove the win/loss sheet at me and leave as soon as he could refusing to say a single word to me or make eye contact with me, ignoring any good games I tried to offer, whether he won or lost (he usually won. The sheet signing felt extra rude somehow the few times I won 😂).