I ranked every SNES game published by OCEAN -

[@JohnRiggs]

Ranking LJN SNES games - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4mZd6SDd9F4rZY Ranking Square SNES Games - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWO4lIx_q7mNiqM

[@kenterminateddq5311]

6:13 Uhhh, NO on the idea of a live-action Doug movie, John! Can you imagine if an actor had to be spraypainted in blue to play as Skeeter, Doug's best friend? Plus, who would play as Patty (Doug's love-interest)?

[@joshuamackey2326]

Riggs I wish u would do more sega genesis games I love my nintendo and it will always be my favorite but sega is def up there too and considering that i remember u saying u had a genesis early like i did back in the day I figured u would cover more genesis games I loved the genesis and also do more super nintendo games and game boy please!!

[@tr3vk4m]

@@kenterminateddq5311 Keegan Michael Key is Skeeter. If it was the 90s I would go for Meg Ryan or maybe Cameron Diaz for Patty? I don't know who'd fit the bill now.

[@System_Sega]

Micro Machines should be way higher than a D. Its a Retro Racing classic. It plays like that because you picked other Head to head mode. Challange is the normal single mode.

[@zeozeozevo]

I agree totally. I was shocked by the rating.

[@madspunky]

Thanks for saying this. Micro Machines should be a B or maybe even an A.

[@paddyola1]

@@madspunky I had to pause at the rating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, micromachines is still one of the best multiplayer games to this day, nearing bomberman2 levels!

[@mandosmanta]

Micromachines is one of the best games on the snes... and even said Flintstones are better than Addams family is quite weird to me.

[@SECONDQUEST]

Yep yep

[@garethlewis4586]

Way off the mark with Micro Machines...great game!

[@FlyingDuckMan360]

AVGN did call Ocean "The British version of LJN" in his review of the Dennis the Menace SNES game.

[@TheLyonkoke]

Come on man, micro machines is fantastic!!! Playing it with friends is awesome. It also supports 4 players!.... Unique Game.... Pretty much agree with everything else

[@Kordian459]

Yeah, the head-to-head mode was not the only way to play it. The normal racing mode is difficult as soon as the game goes on. Great OST. And racing with tanks with friends is fun af.

[@battmann7089]

I’m curious about the American take on Ocean as a software house- in the UK they were a majorly popular 8 and 16 bit computer game power house, granted - not all their games were great but the hit ratio was reasonably high. I think a lot of their US output was drawn from what you would call European style games- and computer games as opposed to console games at that. As a Brit I was used to the difficulties of those games and something like The Addams Family is really an extension of the ZX Spectrum classic Manic Miner for the 16tbit systems. There are a lot of games here that weren’t by Ocean at all in Europe but were published by them on the SNES in the States. A lot of their computer output in the UK was movie tie ins and arcade conversions. The movie tie ins were generally mini games tied together loosely following the theme of the given movie license. Quite a lot of the games you feature here were Commodore Amiga and Atari ST titles souped up for the SNES market but in fairness they aren’t particularly up to the standards you’d expect from Japanese and American companies on the SNES . In short - there were quite a lot of differences between computer and console titles back then and what passed muster on the Atari ST didn’t always cut it on the SNES. For us Brits Ocean are considered a big part of our Retro gaming history but it is fair to say that their forays over the pond didn’t really show them in their best light. Top video as always Sir 👍

[@Frikinautas]

I think than more than the actual quality of the games, there was also a kind of a culture shock involved here. Many of us Euro people were used to this kind of weird platformers (mind that killer water drop!), and when getting abroad on export they just crashed with the American mentality, more used to the Japanese style. It's not a question of who's wrong or right, but a whole mindset. They're not wrong for disliking them, nor are we for liking SOME of them (I mean, there are a couple of pieces of universal crap here).

[@thomasberry4486]

Super Turrican 2 was created by Factor 5 - one of the most underrated video game developers of all time. They were one of the few European developers who didn’t release complete jank.

[@iami3rian394]

Ridiculous not throwing it an "S" especially with his weird rules about ranking the games against each other.

[@ColonelNegative]

Ocean opted to not include a battery with Jurassic Park to save money. They made some truly boneheaded moves but that’s the worst, as JP with save states is a great game and probably would have been a huge hit. The only way to beat it back in the day was by leaving your SNES on for days - or buying a Naki Game Saver.

[@pnvgordinho]

"unfortunately is Mel Gibson" Mel Gibson is a great actor and his movies are awesome. Im giving an A+.

[@TheCommentNinja81]

Yeah I like his screen presence. One of my favorite actors. What's your Top 5 Mel Gibson movies ?

[@pnvgordinho]

@@TheCommentNinja81 Theres so many that I have to do the opposite and say the movies I least like. And without mentioning names, I would say the newer movies, made in the recent years. One that is new and I like is Get the Gringo but there are some new ones that I don't like much.

[@TheDudeSM80]

He’s also a terrible human being.

[@bryanmoberg8408]

he is a great actor, but he's also an antisemitic dick

[@pnvgordinho]

@@TheDudeSM80 By who's standard?. And how many terrible Human Beings do you know?. I will bet that just by name you can mention hundreds. When it comes to movies, I don't care if he is or isn't a terrible person. If I would care, I would watch movies, listen to music, watch sports, etc. Deep down we are all terrible people in someones eyes.

[@MCastleberry1980]

Oooh... Ocean gives LJN a run for their money sometimes lol

[@64-Bit-Gamer]

Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt has lovely graphics (the crystal ball effect) and a catchy soundtrack. I also enjoyed the gameplay, albeit it is challenging and there's no save option. I would give it an A.

[@neoclassic09]

dude, Syndicate was awesome. It was the best game on Jaguar.

[@JohnSmith-rh8xl]

Syndicate was a pc game and it was great. I used to play it all the time. The pc one is a lot better. If I remember correctly kind of like a shadow run and Deus ex.

[@ianparker5007]

We actually have a lot of fun playing nes micro machines in my buddy's garage. It's frustrating as hell, but we laugh hysterically when playing it

[@testudohorsfieldii7052]

Woah woah woah John, micro machines was an excellent game! I remember renting this and playing with three or four friends for a couple of days, great fun, whether it would be as good for longer than that I don't know as can't recall anything about the single player game. Gotta love those graphics and the whole breakfast table set up as well, oh to be young again!

[@Fusso]

Oh man, I love Syndicate, but I only played on PC. I imagine it's way easier with a mouse than with the controller. But it's awesome.

[@graemenicol6377]

Same here I loved the PC version however it was garbage on SNES I certain Ocean only released it as cash in Same as lot of the rubbish movie related games they released back then.

[@ostiariusalpha]

The thing is, the SNES _has a mouse peripheral_ available, but of course, Syndicate isn't compatible with it. What the hell, Ocean! 🤣

[@rsoffiatto]

Fun list as always.The only thing I would add is that the Challenge mode in Micro Machines is exactly what you asked for: racing for a number of laps in a sequence of different tracks. I also do no care about the Head to Head mode but the Challenge mode is actually pretty good.

[@967evil]

Ocean’s Jurassic Park is an A in my opinion. I put so many hours into that game.

[@travistaylor3186]

Syndicate was one of my favorite games on pc as a kid. I don’t know how it would play without a mouse though. I’ll have to pick up the snes version. Thanks!

[@paulpetroleum]

As someone who is European. I actually love a lot of Ocean's output. Suppose its just what you grow up used to.

[@MotherKojiro]

Syndicate was a PC game, for what it's worth. Ocean didn't have many great games, but during this era, they did have a great composer: Dean Evans. He worked on a few of the games here, like Cool World, The Flintstones, and Eek the Cat (also Waterworld, which I think was missed here), and the music on some of these is INFURIATINGLY good for games this bad.

[@schaffiourketaris2691]

Waterworld, Jellyboy and Worms were all PAL exclusives published by Ocean.

[@kevinstyles1991]

Normally with you… but I loved micro machines! Such a great game.

[@rockblaze477]

Addams Family is one of my favorite Super NES games! The controls are slippery, but responsive. The graphics and sound are nicely done. You go through different worlds to save each family member. I highly recommend trying this!

[@erwinekkel9676]

I love that game so much it still feels special after all these years.

[@richardnash6111]

I love the music and sound design. The graphics pop. I'd at least rate it a B probably higher

[@MrKojotie]

Fine version of this game is actually for the NES. It is called Pugsley Scavenger's Quest? Or something like that. And in my opinion is better than the SNES one.

[@mikewhoelse]

I'm from Manchester uk which is where ocean was based. A lad that I went to school with his sister worked for ocean in some capacity and he used to have all the ocean games cos she brought them home from work for him.

[@ChatWithAsh]

Loving these rankings by publisher content! Happy Halloween!

[@alwaysnever446]

Mel Gibson is a universal treasure, awesome dude

[@omar_syrinx2112]

Ocean might haven’t the best game but the best Music

[@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145]

If no one's done it someone should go back and do a hack of Mr. Nutz and turn it into a 16-bit prequel to Conker's Bad Fur Day!

[@PixelatedH2O]

My best friend and I spent so much time with Jurassic Park making our own maps of the corridors to try to get through them. We never actually finished the game though due to no save/continue feature.

[@Ruudos]

Jurassic Park's main flaw is the inability to save your progress. Addams Family Values' main falw is the unbelievable crappy password system where you always have to backtrack to Cousin Itt who's hidden in an annoying swamp maze.

[@thierrygauthier748]

Ouch, some of your rankings kind of hurt my nostalgic feelings on this one... Several platformers were quite highly ranked in French magazines at the time, namely the Addams Family games, Lethal Weapon, Mr Nutz, Dennis the Menace even... games very reminiscent of older computer games, while being vastly improved in terms of graphics and gameplay. I would have ranked all of them higher, especially Mr Nutz, which I still find graphically stunning - definitely not passable and at least worth a try!

[@LocaliLLocano]

Cher ami. Same thing in the US. I remember these games getting good to high marks when released. I remember renting them myself and having fun playing them. I know there’s a nostalgic feeling but when you were bored you could rent these ocean games and really have fun.

[@Crow555]

I played a lot of Ocean games as a kid on my Spectrum. Some were good, others not so good. They always seemed to be the movie tie in developer too. I also had Syndicate for the Megadrive / Genesis too and absolutely loved it. The password system was a pain but I loved that most of the missions were different and could be tackled in different ways and you had to think about which upgrades to invest into next. Not sure if the SNES version was that different but F is kinda harsh.

[@jasonrustmann9876]

SYNDICATE! Holy crap! I rented that when i was a kid and could never remember what the name was, i thought i rented shadow run because it looked so similar, but nope, that's it lol thank you, Riggs. For finally putting that to rest for me =,)

[@BelmontClan]

The untouchables games was based off of the tv series of the time rather than the movie. Also I had a copy of mr nuts and Addams family values I wrote to them for help on getting past a certain level in mr nuts they replied back by letter so say what want about the games but they were all good in there own ways. And while I would have liked a few strategy guides for them I wasn’t greedy. That’s something to think about for it’s time and I was 13 than. A good company for its time.

[@peopleoverparkinsons]

I don't think I new super turrican 2 was published by ocean. Their best game by far. Jurassic Park would have been much better with a save feature and some mission variety. The first person gameplay blew my mind back then. Excellent video!

[@darktetsuya]

wasn't expecting much from the ocean tier list, but I forgot about stuff like super turrican! a few of these I might have to look out for my SNES collection! great videos keep up the awesome work!

[@JJB11]

The Addams Family on SNES is a good game but underrated, too.

[@hualni]

OCEAN: "At least we're not LJN".

[@Gatorade69]

I mean they're pretty close. Just two shitty publishers trying to outshit each other.

[@autoduck]

I actually got a job at Ocean and the game I was to work on was Adams Family Values. As a bit of homework before I started my position they gave me some photocopies of the cast to design for the boxes you mentioned. My versions were more Anime inspired and they weren't to keen on it. I was so disheartened by it I lost my confidence and didn't take the job. Oh well! 😄

[@devonwilliams5738]

That sounds really cool regardless, I'm sure people would love to see them if you still have them.

[@themcadamsminute8494]

Despite not being the greatest games, The Flintstones and Waterworld’s soundtracks are some of the greatest video games soundtracks of all time. Dean Evans’ work on those games was truly extraordinary. I reached out to him on KZbin and he responded back. Very nice person who answered all my video game questions!

[@ryancoke777]

i used to love playing the OG Syndicate on my old DOS PC :)

[@garyhurd6389]

Thank you so much for rating SNES. I’m trying to collect more of them and this really brings back memories of games that I’ve forgot. Many thanks.

[@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499]

Pushover is a fantastic game. I actually played it on PC back in the day, but the SNES version is almost identical.

[@danielespeziari5545]

Is it possible Ocean published many more SNES games here in Europe? If I look at my PAL collection, I see other titles have the Ocean logo on the box, such as Choplifter 3, Super James Pond, Weaponlord.

[@JohnRiggs]

Probably

[@Gatorade69]

They were a UK based company so I bet they published more stuff in Europe.

[@solo1870]

Ocean were behemoths on the old 8bit micros back in the day.

[@TIDbitRETRO]

I had never played any of the Turrican games until I got my Super NT. The ones pre-installed on there are actually pretty great. Kinda wish I played them back in the 90’s. Somehow I completely missed them. The music is phenomenal!

[@johnriddlebaugh7436]

I actually enjoyed playing The Addams Family and Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt.

[@sloppynyuszi]

Micro machines you can play like a normal racing game. It’s a brilliant game. That mode you played is not how you normally play it.

[@RetroChiZ]

Yeah, I was scratching my head at that too.

[@littleazzyhaven]

Bangerang! Good vid bro!

[@LasherDevianceGaming]

It was great to meet you at RetroPalooza last weekend!

[@megamarsonic]

4:16 "Dennis! You in there playing with my buttball!?"

[@newspooiechannel]

A sealed Super Turrican 2 was my best 83¢ purchase ever.

[@Digital_Ninja279]

The Untouchables game you reviewed here was based on the syndicated television series from 1993.

[@drewshafer8365]

Yes a new ranking video I'm so happy this makes my day so much better thank you john 🥺

[@testaMINT]

What's wrong with Mel Gibson?

[@Melvinwacko]

Is that blood splattering from Pugsley's enemies?

[@TheRealJPhillips]

OCEAN was basically the AMIGA depository. All of These European games probably wouldn't have been published to come here any other way.

[@Webhead123]

Syndicate is, in fact, based on a PC game of the same name. Like most PC-to-console ports of the day, it was probably best left on PC.

[@kouheicoppola2157]

Syndicate was a PC game released in 1993 by Bullfrog and published by EA (it's available on Origin), so your assumption is correct. The SNES was published by Ocean with it being developed by Bullfrog.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

Addams Family Values plays like Zelda to me, and for me it's an A. Eek The Cat as a Cartoon is an A, Eek The Cat as a Game is an F... makes ALF look good. Syndicate is indeed a PC game, a Real-Time Strategy RPG of sorts, i've seen it played before, but chances are it's worse than the PC version.

[@kajukenpo7]

Awesome work as always Mr. Riggs!

[@greenpieceofmind]

Love all the rummaging videos you do at sales and stuff. God bless you, man

[@drewshafer8365]

Could you rank the Konami games on SNES

[@BlackMoore82]

Richard Moll , Tim Curry, and Frank Welker did voice work on the Mighty Max cartoon, of course Curry and Welker specially have done several voice work of the years. I loved the Family Values game, it was nice seeing Raul Julia and Christina Ricci's faces pop up on the dialogues. As for the films though I prefer the first one more. The Flintstones movie came out a week before my 13th birthday and thought it was awful, that opinion's never changed. Rick Moranis has been in far better films... Ghostbusters, Little Shop of Horrors (a remake of the 1960 film), Spaceballs, and Ghostbusters II.

[@JohnRiggs]

I never knew! What a great voice line up!

[@Gatorade69]

I used to love Mighty Max toys. Then I watched the show and it was decent but then I got the game (for Genesis) and oh my god was it bad.

[@Revegelance]

I think the original Cover Shooter might've been Space Invaders.

[@Gatorade69]

Never thought of it that way but yeah you got a point.

[@Shiftygism]

That Puggsly game has some really nice graphics in spots.

[@johndiggle4229]

Game is poop. Sell all your games to me for a $1

[@erwinekkel9676]

Syndicate is easily S tier. One of the best games on the snes. Wow you really did not enjoy it... This game was ahead of its time. Sure it has flaws. But driving cars, kidnapping people, robots cyberpunk. This game has it all.

[@glenhayman8722]

As always quality content, a good cause, and enjoyable nostalgia

[@landeny65]

Lethal Weapon would have been better if it were like Ghouls n Ghosts. Mel takes a hit and then loses his clothes and is then running around in his little white briefs like in South Park lmao

[@UltraVibePleasure2K]

Riggs!!! Nice video, but I feel you were a little harsh on the 1st Adams Family game. Yeah, nostalgia is speaking for me a bit, but I still think objectively it at least looks and sounds way above average. The platforming may be generic and tough by todays standards, but back then it felt just fine. I think it's still a cool premise to save all the family members.

[@squarepainter]

Syndicate on Mac and PC is amazing

[@lurkerrekrul]

Kid Kleats - This was originally an Amiga game called Soccer Kid. It wasn't great there either. Pushover - I loved this on the Amiga. Someone made a freeware Windows port of it a few years ago. Syndicate - I loved this game, but it needs to be played on a computer with a mouse. It gets really hard in some of the later areas. I played it on the Amiga, but I have to admit that the DOS version is better in that it has more variety in the vehicles.

[@novelknowledge]

Syndicate was a computer game, I played it on Mac. Looks quite different than SNES version. The Mac version was incredible.

[@kornsin]

This is like a montage of weekends from my youth spoiled by bad decisions at my local rental store. Though I did have the Jurassic Park game that transferred to "Doom Style", as I called it as a kid, and enjoyed it a good deal. I spent birthday money on Cool World. Cause I loved the movie at the time and have always made bad investments. I will say thanks to Kim Basinger for her work in that flick and My Step Mother is an Alien.

[@elip5200]

Do they report their claimed waste

[@ultramaximusreviews]

I hate your analogy of the Flintstones vs Doug... you made me feel old LOL

[@DadRacer]

Seems like a lot of the Ocean games are so similar. Nice video! A couple of suggestions that probably have been suggested previously or perhaps you’ve already done it: 1) Give each hav game a ranking amongst themselves AND overall; 2) Perhaps SNES (or NES) tear list of publishers overall.

[@pika23]

@johnriggs What about the one on the virtual snes for switch. Mr jelly I think it's called

[@kcadventures1454]

Great list john! You enjoying re4 on quest?!

[@jerszu1237]

Finally a new ranking video!!!! Yay! Do more!

[@gingerhippygaming7962]

I know Americas dont get ocean games but micro machines a D you are a mad man. You only played the one setting and the best way to play it is with friends and ram them off the track

[@joeboo8626]

I kept looking for that one amazing ocean game I played back in the day. Must have been a dream I had.

[@johndiggle4229]

Lethal Weapon>Chrono Trigger

[@thatwasprettyneat]

lmao

[@1-eye-willy]

Jurassic park 2 on the mega cd has an fmv cutscene of jeff goldbloom telling you to "go out and let the wind blow the stink off of you" that was the moment my step dad threw out our sega cd

[@tactfulrogue]

Mel Gibson is a legend. Great reviews BTW. 👌

[@shenloken2]

Syndicate was for PC and having played it on such it’s much better. Electing to play Syndicate on SNES is like electing to play DOOM on it. It’s more of a curiosity than anything and you’re better off playing the PC versions.

[@breakbeatz309]

Exactly

[@robintst]

Wow, I've never in my life heard anyone ever give Syndicate a bad rating, it's an Amiga and DOS classic. Of course that might be the issue, at least half of the time back then it was a crapshoot porting games from computers, specifically games made with a computer platform in mind, to a console when you lose the expanded functionality of the keyboard and/or mouse. They weren't always "pick up and play" either, more complex computer games always came with pretty dense documentation and instruction manuals.

[@ChildrenShowArchive456]

I’m watching this video because the Wells Fargo Center Jurassic World show is reopening this February. Seriously though. You should check it out if you’re interested in the Jurassic Park/Jurassic World movies or if you’re not interested in them like me. It’s very great.

[@iamryan9234]

Do more ranking videos for snes games please

[@Daz5Daz]

Mad to hear how much Ocean is disrespected from an NES perspective as they had some great games on computers like the ZX Spectrum and C64 - Rainbow Islands, Daley Thompson's Super Test, The Great Escape, Wizball, Robocop, Chase H.Q etc.

[@vibonacci]

You should interview the executive that gave those movie license rights to Ocean. Just curious what the reasoning was.

[@JohnRiggs]

$$

[@vibonacci]

@@JohnRiggs Sure. But I mean, they could have also sold those 'movie rights' to some SNES dev companies with higher quality standards. I'd rather have a Robocop game made by Capcom for example. I don't fully understand why they sell rights for those strong IPs to mediocre companies. Maybe I'm missing something, or it was just the times :)

[@steveb7932]

The only person on the planet who wants a game to play like festers quest is john riggs lol

[@JohnRiggs]

I love Fester's Quest!

[@bryanmoberg8408]

Side note, Mr. Nutz is one of the most notoriously rare and expensive snes games...despite being crap. I do really love the snes jurassic park though, that game had some incredible music among other things.

[@stefanmilicevic8453]

Mr. Nutz is not bad actually. Syndicate is great on computers, not so much on SNES.

[@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145]

Mighty Mouse the New Adventures by Ralph Bakshi, the same Ralph that did the Cool World & Lord of the Rings animated movies, actually paved the way for Ren & Stimpy. The animator who did Ren & Stimpy worked under Ralph on Mighty Mouse the New Adventures! I believe there are some MMtNA episodes on KZbin. Take note of how Mighty Mouse's friend Scrappy looks an awful lot like the design of Ren. (*NOTE: make sure you look up Mighty Mouse the New Adventures not The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse)

[@swungsolid]

Thank you for the snes ranking and review John! Can’t wait for more!

[@TheTrueBro]

Jurassic Park 2 is IMO way better than 1. First one was confusing and the controls were weird at times. 2 didn't break anything, but at least it did (almost) everything right: good music, good graphics, good control, hard as heck (and not for wrong reasons). My only major complaint is the lack of a proper ending.

[@Shmey]

It's a shame the SNES version of Micro Machines wasn't more like the NES version. The NES version was actually a really good one. I did play and beat Syndicate for the PC. Yes. It was a PC game. The thing that was really fun to do was to get into an area with a lot of civlians, grab a persuadertron and convert them all, pile EVERYBODY into a car, and have an enemy blow it up. It was like a clown car, but with fire.

[@elmstreetfan1633]

Props on the charity tie in, but i initially thought you said "T &C" ala surf designs. Cool nonetheless, happy Halloween John.

[@treyjohnson4035]

Fun fact,Ralph Bakshi hated studio interference,Paramount wanted Nikes on Holly,

[@Skorpio420]

I wish there would have been a Super Fester's Quest (Fester's Super Quest?).