I Ranked the Top 10 Cubers of 2023

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Cube Master

Cube Master

Күн бұрын

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@5tuffz
@5tuffz Жыл бұрын
I can tell sm work was put into this! I'm glad you too into account over factors like standard deviation and improvement. This is great content
@justadude721
@justadude721 Жыл бұрын
10:54 "I don't really expect the 3x3 podium to be all sub 5.6" Insane how Tymon placed 3rd with 5.42 and Ruihang 4th with 5.59 😂.
@egyptiancuber
@egyptiancuber Жыл бұрын
You're a great youcuber
@meowis526
@meowis526 7 ай бұрын
Why did I read this like mario 💀
@damianomazzalupi
@damianomazzalupi Жыл бұрын
Quite awesome how you predicted the rising of Yiheng! I'd be curious to see this analysis done again maybe in a couple of months, when the WC will be really close.
@Neighbour1
@Neighbour1 Жыл бұрын
yiheng came second by 0.01 to max park
@TheFuzzyCuber
@TheFuzzyCuber Жыл бұрын
9:16 1st place 8:02 2nd place 6:50 3rd place 6:15 4th place 5:03 5th place 4:19 6th place 3:45 7th place 3:08 8th place 2:37 9th place 1:33 10th place
@crispygyoza9268
@crispygyoza9268 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this idea and will try to calculate stuff myself! One thing I would disagree with though is putting the entire data through a linear regression, the times cubers got when they first started competing affects the slope way too much. Maybe take away the first year or so of data or only look at the past X years of data or something would make it better? Also I didn't know this database query existed! I'm going to have so much fun with this data, thanks for sharing!
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I tried playing around with the linear regression, but cubers who been to few competitions or haven't competed in a while got really skewed results so I left it as it is. Definitely agree though, might just get rid of the variable completely.
@jameschea.
@jameschea. Жыл бұрын
love statistics videos like these! hope to see more like these in the future
@SlowerCuber
@SlowerCuber Жыл бұрын
This is insightful! Especially when there are so many clickbait videos from others recently, this high quality video is very interesting to watch
@ethanowen1416
@ethanowen1416 10 ай бұрын
1 year later crazy how the stats predicted yihengs rise
@nasdfigol
@nasdfigol Жыл бұрын
"Yiheng wang is only 5th" Now:
@Adi_Cubes
@Adi_Cubes Жыл бұрын
heres my list 1 / 2 = Tymon/Max (I think its too close) 3 - Matty 4 / 5 - Luke / Leo 6 - Ruihang 7 - Patrick 8 - Feliks Dont know after that, yiheng probably wont be there One person i really hope does will is Seung-Hyak-Nam (think thats what his name is spelled) who lost his title in worlds 2017 cuz of that timer reset. He was robbed of his title, and then couldnt come to 2019 cuz of his mandatory military service. I really hope he does well, he deserves it.
@alanlikescubing2438
@alanlikescubing2438 Жыл бұрын
Uhh, he actually did come to 2019
@임소영-h3x
@임소영-h3x Жыл бұрын
And the next worlds is in Korea. I really hope he does well.
@chillwhale07
@chillwhale07 Жыл бұрын
Luke Garrett left the chat
@alanlikescubing2438
@alanlikescubing2438 Жыл бұрын
@@chillwhale07 he literally put luke at number 4/5
@2staircases567
@2staircases567 Жыл бұрын
He probably won't be there... 4.69 average (I'm this was before but still he had a 2.99 single online)
@JakeSpeedcuberSolves
@JakeSpeedcuberSolves Жыл бұрын
I really liked this! SQ1/Mega/5x5 I would want to see, particularly 5x5 to see Feliks vs. Max.
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
For 5x5 probably a landslide to Max lol. In my greatest of all time video though, Feliks does a lot better in 5x5
@notmecubes
@notmecubes Жыл бұрын
I think in 5x5, Max has a slight bit of competition from Tymon and Seung. But he'll probably win.
@imjayv
@imjayv Жыл бұрын
I'm really hyped to see what worlds has to offer us! I'm waiting for a lot of records to be broken, and who knows, even tymon winning his first world championship! (and hopefully the 3x3 single is broken until there lol)
@klbklb5331
@klbklb5331 Жыл бұрын
this is really cool! I like how it not only takes into account a cuber's ability and accomplishments, but also their potential
@ThatCubeKidd
@ThatCubeKidd Жыл бұрын
1:33 The WCA will round the average you get. If you get a 6.129 average, it will be rounded to 6.13, since WCA only uses 2 decimals. This isn’t used for getting single solves though.
@rubrikduck
@rubrikduck Жыл бұрын
Technically you can only get a .XX00, .XX33 or .XX67 average as it's mo3 but yeah
@thetwistedcube
@thetwistedcube 20 күн бұрын
It’s cool to look back on this video almost two years later. I think the prediction of Yihengs dominance was very accurate, and there’s probably a new cuber on the horizon ready to break new records. 🎉
@coconutcubes5750
@coconutcubes5750 Жыл бұрын
I think u gotta re-do this ranking after Singapore Championship 2023... We are seeing crazy records and improvements by the Chinese cubers🤯Yiheng became the third person ever to record an official sub-5 average, Ruihang getting a 5.19 average, 2 sub-4 solves in one minute.... wild.
@whatdoiputhere224
@whatdoiputhere224 Жыл бұрын
He did
@delishicubes
@delishicubes Жыл бұрын
yo this is awesome! id love see something similar for all events (ik thats a lot of work tho lol so dont feel pressured) as i think this stuff is super interesting!
@joeG314
@joeG314 Жыл бұрын
Really nice job with this. When trying to determine the winner of a given event, looking at minimizing standard deviation makes sense (improved consistency, etc). However, another interesting question I've tried to predict is which cuber is most likely to break the existing avg of 5 world record. For this, if we assume that cubers don't improve over time, a higher standard deviation actually helps. The results of the Monte Carlo show that Tymon and Max are the only cubers capable of breaking the record (not a surprise), and that it should be broken within the next 1.5 years. Tymon's odds are slightly higher than Max's. Tymon and Max also have a huge advantage over others in this analysis because of how many comps they attend per year. They get more "at bats", so more chances to have a lucky set of scrambles.
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting too! Would love to look into this more some time
@statmango
@statmango Жыл бұрын
For predicting a world record, I wonder if an extreme value distribution would work, because we're not trying to predict the average, but an extreme event (like an actuary trying to predict a high cost event like a hurricane).
@joeG314
@joeG314 Жыл бұрын
@@statmango you actually are trying to predict an average - an average of 5 where the high and low values are dropped. That’s what makes it such a complicated problem to tackle statistically (I’m not even sure if it’s theoretically possible to solve with pure math). That’s why I chose to approach it with Monte Carlo simulation with a million solve sample size.
@faartycubes
@faartycubes Жыл бұрын
I think yiheng is going to dominate as he did almost break the world record but it didn’t happen because a miss scramble but then a few weeks later he breaks the world record
@ardnamalas1357
@ardnamalas1357 Жыл бұрын
Whatching in July 2023 and seeing yiheng Wang ranked 5...
@catchgoogle
@catchgoogle Жыл бұрын
thank you dr fang
@hellgate25000
@hellgate25000 Жыл бұрын
good stuff dude - interested in learning about your model further - specifically how you 1) chose variables, 2) how you solved for the beta coefficients. To get "predicted world's final average", did you just take each previous world's final competitor result and backtest based on each of their 7 stats going into that world's final?
@thatonecuuuuuuuber
@thatonecuuuuuuuber Жыл бұрын
Wow this video is amazing and its clear that you put a lot of time and effort into it great job
@RyanWangtheSpeedcuber
@RyanWangtheSpeedcuber Жыл бұрын
YOU PREDICTED YIHENG WANG'S FUTURE
@BlargMeister
@BlargMeister Жыл бұрын
You're a legend sam, I love predictive statistics like this. Keep it up!
@tz6ddiee
@tz6ddiee Жыл бұрын
Timestamps: 10th 1:32 9th 2:37 8th 3:08 7th 3:46 6th 4:22 5th 5:19 4th 6:16 3rd 6:50 2nd 8:03 1st 9:15 Timestamps if u just don't wanna watch the whole vid. But please watch this vid, this is very entertaining and also informative for all cubing fellas out there.
@hperm2022
@hperm2022 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Fang!
@T-cup9713
@T-cup9713 2 күн бұрын
me watching him rank yiheng #5 in december 2024
@pentapodes5708
@pentapodes5708 Жыл бұрын
u could do square 1 next, it will be pretty interesting for you to analyse your own stats
@A_Glad
@A_Glad Жыл бұрын
Then YiHeng got two WR averages. You should also remake this
@DansHobbies
@DansHobbies Жыл бұрын
Could you do this for bigger cubes, such as 5x5 or 7x7? That would be amazing
@ThatCubeKidd
@ThatCubeKidd Жыл бұрын
9:17 😂
@edwardrust3197
@edwardrust3197 Жыл бұрын
2:28 Feliks got 2nd so he did podium but didn’t manage to pull of the expected win like he did in the first three rounds
@simo_viewer_pr9030
@simo_viewer_pr9030 Жыл бұрын
You are so underrated! Keep up the good work❤
@cubewerkz8990
@cubewerkz8990 Жыл бұрын
It’s time to make a new video for this after Singapore Chanpionship 2023. The Chinese Cubers should make a significant climb.
@TheOrigamiGenius
@TheOrigamiGenius Жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video on cubing. You deserve way more subs than this
@marcoantonioolivares6246
@marcoantonioolivares6246 Жыл бұрын
The Martín Telésforo (El feo) joke cracked me up... haha
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J Жыл бұрын
Ruihang Xu 5.48 didn't really come out of nowhere. He was smashing times like his 2.68 and had already had great times at Monkey League.
@KoLecnac
@KoLecnac Жыл бұрын
2023 just got started…
@geoffins
@geoffins Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Would love to see the analysis for blindfolded
@nikitakusuma8440
@nikitakusuma8440 Жыл бұрын
Best cubing video of 2023 so far
@Eric___X
@Eric___X Жыл бұрын
How about Bofan Zhang (2021ZHAN01), I think he should be in top10 now, he got even better potential than Yiheng (faster than Yiheng at the same age)
@Eric___X
@Eric___X Жыл бұрын
@@chungboislim2061 I was initially confused by this reply, but now I understand it quite well with your comment on this video about Feliks as an example
@Eric___X
@Eric___X Жыл бұрын
@@chungboislim2061 GOAT topic aside. I only made two claims in my comment, 1) Bofan faster than Yiheng at the same age is a fact, and 2) Bofan might very likely got top10 placing at WC2023. Feel free to make some arguments about these
@slcubes
@slcubes Жыл бұрын
Hey Sam! Could you make another one of these before worlds? Cause these are really outdated lol.
@maxenceleboeuf
@maxenceleboeuf Жыл бұрын
Can I do this myself? (without the massive formula)
@arandomchannel2468
@arandomchannel2468 7 ай бұрын
How to access the database?
@putian_ye
@putian_ye Жыл бұрын
what r ur formulas for avg/sd slope/growth factors
@eliplawner682
@eliplawner682 Жыл бұрын
try lukes rs33m super
@lightannoor6352
@lightannoor6352 Жыл бұрын
What did the graph oh SD mean?
@ninjaempire9093
@ninjaempire9093 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video I’ve seen in a long time
@CubingEmperor313
@CubingEmperor313 7 ай бұрын
0:04 beard tymon
@SlowerCuber
@SlowerCuber Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what's the most and the least important factor among the seven according to the coefficients of your formula?
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
PR is most important, although I think it should be weighed the most. Standard deviation was probably the least important.
@임소영-h3x
@임소영-h3x Жыл бұрын
The best cuber of all time: A non-cuber's cousin
@andreaschristofi3110
@andreaschristofi3110 Жыл бұрын
and here we are 2 months later Yiheng gets WR average😂
@cookierobber
@cookierobber Жыл бұрын
How does Matty end up 7th when he's ranked better than 7th in every category?
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
That confused me too, but it kinda makes sense when looking at the final chart. Everyone above him either improve really quickly, or have a better PR
@superfellaofficial
@superfellaofficial Жыл бұрын
what is yiheng on the list after his 4.91 average?
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
End of this video if you haven't seen it yet :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnfSo4yAp6d0iqs
@tygon1606
@tygon1606 Жыл бұрын
Quality content!
@Stellarlaurens
@Stellarlaurens Жыл бұрын
This is actually the actual ranking of speed cubers in the world 2023
@solver5k
@solver5k Жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting ranking or forecasting system.
@michadenkiewicz8555
@michadenkiewicz8555 Жыл бұрын
Maybe before worlds do this for 20 best cubers in every event that will be competing
@DaCuboid
@DaCuboid Жыл бұрын
i loved this! ty
@eliplawner682
@eliplawner682 Жыл бұрын
sadly the world championships is not anywere close to where i live, but im happy to see these people pottentioly get there prdidcted avrages
@JJCuber27
@JJCuber27 Жыл бұрын
That Martin joke though 💀
@I_Cube.
@I_Cube. Жыл бұрын
Tymon is my favorite.
@astrospeedcuber
@astrospeedcuber Жыл бұрын
Now that Yiheng has the wr average, how high would he be now
@CubingVision
@CubingVision Жыл бұрын
Now max park is the wr holder 3.13
@idelfitri6530
@idelfitri6530 Жыл бұрын
​@@CubingVisionSingle
@JosephBurnett937
@JosephBurnett937 Жыл бұрын
5:15 and it ended up being SHOCKING that he didn't win worlds
@GEE_TShirt
@GEE_TShirt Жыл бұрын
im glad luke is on this list!
@NooB-bf3fo
@NooB-bf3fo Жыл бұрын
whats the best way to improve at the 3x3 I learned lookahead but I just cant consistently be sub 15
@skwerl_y
@skwerl_y Жыл бұрын
This is a little outdated, Yiheng has the WR average and it isn't even Worlds yet.
@coconutcubes5750
@coconutcubes5750 Жыл бұрын
Sub-6 averages in world finals. I do think it will happen. Crazy
@mrcereal5394
@mrcereal5394 Жыл бұрын
you should do this for square one
@flairrahahaa
@flairrahahaa Жыл бұрын
Yehang now: 🗿
@Anthony_Jiang
@Anthony_Jiang Жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@ominarous
@ominarous Жыл бұрын
I watched this video 2 hours before i found out yiheng wang took ao5 wr. If you were to do the analysis over again, where would this then put him?
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
End of this video has the rankings after Singapore Championships kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnfSo4yAp6d0iqs As of now, his predicted average is sub-5 :O
@ominarous
@ominarous Жыл бұрын
@@CubeMasterYT sheeee
@BLDlover1084
@BLDlover1084 Жыл бұрын
can you pls do 3BLD. It is my main event.
@FlashRayLaser
@FlashRayLaser Жыл бұрын
Yiheng Wang all day.
@themusicguy4084
@themusicguy4084 Жыл бұрын
update it wr avg has been broken
@kyh148
@kyh148 Жыл бұрын
If Yiheng manages to not fuck up because of the pressure, he's gonna destroy Max and Tymon. I'm calling it.
@lombre9149
@lombre9149 Жыл бұрын
he choked on solve 5
@parabolaaaaa4919
@parabolaaaaa4919 Жыл бұрын
yiheng ruihang bofang podium
@jakubjurika5653
@jakubjurika5653 Жыл бұрын
Good video!
@jjrthecuber
@jjrthecuber Жыл бұрын
The fact that yiheng wang has a 4.91 Average now
@lmcubing
@lmcubing Жыл бұрын
Luke Marvin, 2022MARV01, Pyraminx. I've been practicing it a lot. Thanks for the good content!
@parabolaaaaa4919
@parabolaaaaa4919 Жыл бұрын
4:42 those people clearly dont watch ruiman yan
@cubekong6272
@cubekong6272 Жыл бұрын
This is so detailed.....! Osm
@ericzhu6620
@ericzhu6620 Жыл бұрын
this model definitely needs improvement as I won't believe that until this year the final of the world championship will have more than two sub-6 averages, I mean how can you expect everyone doing at their best? most of them will choke and struggle to even get sub-7, look at WC 2019, a lot of sub-7 level solvers actually got 8 sec avgs so i believe that the same thing will happen again
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Жыл бұрын
Yep agreed it needs improvement, as I mentioned towards the end. However, I think the rankings themselves are pretty accurate!
@CubingCouple
@CubingCouple Жыл бұрын
Great video
@romich1884
@romich1884 Жыл бұрын
Yiheng got 4.91 average !!!!! 🎉
@ThatFastCuber
@ThatFastCuber Жыл бұрын
I aggre with all but the top 2. I think max park should be 1 because he improved his pr average from 5.08 to 4.86 I on month of tymon taking it. Also you should do squan, 2x2 and skweb even though everyone knows who is 1 for all of those. Max shau for squan and zayn khanani 2x2 and skewb
@sombimcjunior4451
@sombimcjunior4451 Жыл бұрын
he included max's avg... watch the whole video
@ItzmeJify
@ItzmeJify Жыл бұрын
recent average be like for yiheng
@tamelnv7048
@tamelnv7048 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive video
@bluetuberthesecond4830
@bluetuberthesecond4830 Жыл бұрын
1. Tymon 2. Max 3. Feliks 4. Matty 5. Ruihang 6. Leo
@lobotomy.2
@lobotomy.2 3 ай бұрын
1. Max 2. Yiheng 3. Tymon 4. Ruihang 5. Luke 6. I forgot
@ximenhyper
@ximenhyper Жыл бұрын
Statistics are cool, but clutch time is different.😊
@leolrg2783
@leolrg2783 Жыл бұрын
pr average tell nothing sorry. what you should do is plot a linear regression model and predict the time they'll get in world champs. Then plot a linear regression for Standard Deviations and predict the standard deviation they have in world champs. Solely use these two factors to make predictions
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Жыл бұрын
9:17 💀
@HUGTHATO
@HUGTHATO Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of making a similar video but u made it first :(
@leonardov.a5453
@leonardov.a5453 Жыл бұрын
Martin telesforo 🐐
@PenaltyCuber
@PenaltyCuber Жыл бұрын
Member gang
@ohypix
@ohypix Жыл бұрын
very nice vid
@putian_ye
@putian_ye Жыл бұрын
also just a quick comment consistency isn't really accuraate when you consider the fact that cubers can improve a lot in 2 years
@Yurio
@Yurio Жыл бұрын
I’m not 100% sure of the formula used but wasn’t this addressed in the video and accounted for? Not completely sure though
@putian_ye
@putian_ye Жыл бұрын
@@Yurio do you know which program he used to calculate
@soliquid197
@soliquid197 Жыл бұрын
But Max Park is more than just 3x3? He dominates big cubes
This is a HUGE Problem
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