I Regret Guessing the Boiler Flame Sensor was Bad

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@johnvanwinkle4351
@johnvanwinkle4351 Жыл бұрын
It is great to see you admitted your error by not checking the flame sensor and putting the old one back in and testing. I admire your integrity and your enthusiasm in the work that you do.
@jackharper24
@jackharper24 10 ай бұрын
it feels like every room you work in has a smoke alarm with a dying battery in it
@Adam20231
@Adam20231 10 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder how many actually have batteries that would alert if there was a fire…..
@jamesszalla4274
@jamesszalla4274 10 ай бұрын
Flame sensors rarely go bad. Most of the time, they’re just dirty and can be fixed by a light sanding. Only real time to replace the FS is if theoribe is rusted (happens a lot with Trane OEM sensors on LP), the ceramic is cracked, or the wire is damaged. Did you actually check your inlet and outlet gas pressures at the appliances? There may be a regulator on the inlet line between the meter and the appliances that’s bad or out of adjustment. It may be a high pressure line coming into the building with a regulator to step in down, kind of like what you see with LP.
@user-iu3uo2kz5k
@user-iu3uo2kz5k Жыл бұрын
Switched from oil to a natural gas blower for a 1926 Kewanee 50 HP low pressure steam boiler. 2.5M BTU max but we set at approx. 1.5M. Occasionally, it misfired. We were pulling our hair out trying to figure out the problem. Location is a small town high up on a mountain. Gas company showed up one morning and told us when our boiler fired up, many of the town's pilot lights were going out. They received permission to increase the entire town's gas pressure while they ran a larger line 4 miles up the mountain. A properly sized meter does not guarantee volume is available.
@jamesszalla4274
@jamesszalla4274 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. He may also have a high pressure line coming into the building with a regulator to step it down. I’ve seen this a few times where the regulator was bad or out of adjustment. He didn’t appear to have checked his pressures. That would have told him a lot.
@JoeCdaYT
@JoeCdaYT Жыл бұрын
When I did field service my van looked like that after a week. It would be like that for a month then I straighten the van up. Rinse and repeat. That is how I know a true service person is the state of their van or truck. Keep up the good work. BTW we all make mistakes by jumping to our first thought without doing a check of everything.
@w.miller7282
@w.miller7282 Жыл бұрын
One more thing to verify is the gas company regulator has enough capacity to supply all of the gas meters on the meter manifold.
@grandinosour
@grandinosour Жыл бұрын
check for stable voltage in the thermostat wires to verify the call voltage is just not dropping out due to a bad thermostat or wiring.
@boilertech44
@boilertech44 Жыл бұрын
Did you check the gas regulator output to each unit? Now that you have more volume coming from the city, you can increase wc inches on the units gas regulators to max allowance.
@InsanePacoTaco
@InsanePacoTaco Жыл бұрын
Great job on organizing the van!
@OneSaintPaul
@OneSaintPaul Жыл бұрын
We Dig It! Van Life! Thanks for the sneak peek! Looking good!
@davidb7566
@davidb7566 Жыл бұрын
Hard to see how you wired the rib relay, But the brown cable you hold looks almost like the 24v coil voltage is wired in series instead of parallel. If thats the case thats the problem, you are dropping the voltage and thats why its acting funky...not working ect.
@Country-hvac-show
@Country-hvac-show Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What is the part number for that flame sensor assembly.
@theapprenticesurvivalguide
@theapprenticesurvivalguide Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! the part number is Weil McLain 511-330-273
@davefeely2101
@davefeely2101 Жыл бұрын
The board would probably require at least 1 Mico amp Dc flame rectification signal to keep going but you would feel a lot better seeing 2 plus micro amps to know that you have good flame contact on the rod
@undaya
@undaya Жыл бұрын
Has this equipment worked before? Whats changed?
@theapprenticesurvivalguide
@theapprenticesurvivalguide Жыл бұрын
Which one? someone just shut off the power to the steam boiler (idk why) at the emergency shut off. the not water boiler worked as well, just seeing the pilot tube on fire rose a red flag and i couldn't walk away and leave it like that
@johnsutter1497
@johnsutter1497 Жыл бұрын
Nice job! What is your opinion on electric anode rods? Thank you. Happy New Year!
@paulkenney5846
@paulkenney5846 9 ай бұрын
Did you do a exhaust analysis Mikey pipes would
@Chris_In_Texas
@Chris_In_Texas Жыл бұрын
The gas piping is way to small it appears that that amount of heating, what I could see over your shoulder! 🤠👍
@armandobaia6804
@armandobaia6804 Жыл бұрын
I like the music in this, your working but relaxing at the same time yk?
@mattstiglic
@mattstiglic Жыл бұрын
What exactly was the issue at the second call you were trying to overcome?
@davefeely2101
@davefeely2101 Жыл бұрын
The board sends an ac voltage current into the flame where at that point the current gets rectified to a Dc current and a Dc micro amp signal is read by the board to establish it is a real flame and not just a jumped signal from something else. Don’t want gas flying out if there is not a real flame present to ignite the gas
@zachstammen9337
@zachstammen9337 Жыл бұрын
Double check the main gas pipe size and lengths and reference the gas charts
@ralphgiampietro85
@ralphgiampietro85 Жыл бұрын
Not dc volts but micro amps when testing up and running all that matters your a hard working tech for 2 yrs in the business doing quite well would hope your boss sees that how could he not
@Spoiler5081
@Spoiler5081 Жыл бұрын
Your 360 degree condensate looked blocked bud 😊… Nice Knipex Plywrs you got too … they make those silly things called wrenches too…Happy New Year New subscriber get the Benney’s!!
@unclejay1634
@unclejay1634 Жыл бұрын
Had this problem before we needed to run the drop going into the water heater a pipe size up a 18” before going into gas valve to have enough volume for the ignition process
@davefeely2101
@davefeely2101 Жыл бұрын
Flame sense is checked with DC micro amps not Dc milivolts
@utubepro7742
@utubepro7742 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to find out?
@stanleyroberts2461
@stanleyroberts2461 Жыл бұрын
Check your micro amp signal first before cleaning or replacing
@pavelspilberg9310
@pavelspilberg9310 Жыл бұрын
If I understand your eternal properly, it shows millivolts which is wrong for flame senor test. You need to use Microamps for testing flame current.
@scottmaz4063
@scottmaz4063 Жыл бұрын
A preference switch
@marcoferreira226
@marcoferreira226 Жыл бұрын
I thought you did that to show us new gas guys what not to too always test before replacing parts 🤣Mikey Pipes says if your not testing your guessing
@hwtans2717
@hwtans2717 Жыл бұрын
That relay probably would’ve worked if you paralleled the relay coil with the ignition circuit instead of running it in series
@wmdayman
@wmdayman Жыл бұрын
You did a great job. I am 78 still working and still make boo boos🙂
@PawsumGaming
@PawsumGaming Жыл бұрын
The relay was a good idea though.
@scottmaz4063
@scottmaz4063 Жыл бұрын
If you ain't testing your guessing
@JamesBrown-db9pk
@JamesBrown-db9pk Жыл бұрын
u workin 4 mikey putz now
@scottmaz4063
@scottmaz4063 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesBrown-db9pk but he didn't test he assumed
@Voltrondefenderoftheuniverse
@Voltrondefenderoftheuniverse Жыл бұрын
Who’s here Mikey pipes
@scottmaz4063
@scottmaz4063 Жыл бұрын
@Voltrondefenderoftheuniverse nope I am I see you on his and Daniel's video
@travismaier4567
@travismaier4567 Жыл бұрын
Its Mikey fucking pipes.
@dantoubiana3286
@dantoubiana3286 Ай бұрын
@lnk4328
@lnk4328 Жыл бұрын
I must say, I've never seen anyone check the flame signal with the meter set to millivolts instead of DC microamps.
@berated4541
@berated4541 11 ай бұрын
Reading milivolts is more consistent and accurate than mili amps in my experience.
@jamesszalla4274
@jamesszalla4274 10 ай бұрын
Good point. The ignition control is looking for amps, not volts.
@erikljung5096
@erikljung5096 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@JamesBrown-db9pk
@JamesBrown-db9pk Жыл бұрын
use a wrench stud not plyers
@PawsumGaming
@PawsumGaming Жыл бұрын
It's a wrench... a pliers wrench.. That's what it's made for.
@grandinosour
@grandinosour Жыл бұрын
Always test suspected failed parts before replacement. otherwise you will just be a parts cannon.
@pavelspilberg9310
@pavelspilberg9310 Жыл бұрын
I mean multimeter 😂
@dannykeane6565
@dannykeane6565 Жыл бұрын
anyone else see that mega roach
@dompizzi1475
@dompizzi1475 10 ай бұрын
COFFEE
@bestfriendhank1424
@bestfriendhank1424 Жыл бұрын
No different then being married. Right when you should be right, you are still wrong
@shoretrade9516
@shoretrade9516 Жыл бұрын
You need more training!
@jamesszalla4274
@jamesszalla4274 10 ай бұрын
I’m a retired HVAC tech with 25+ years experience. I’ve seen several of his videos and thought the same thing.
@mikev.1034
@mikev.1034 Жыл бұрын
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