I should go... ENDING | First time playing Mass Effect 3 - Pt.30

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Liera

Liera

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This is the end... I should go.
Also I have never talked for as long about what I think about the game ever... So I guess that's a testament to the franchise.
Ending discussion: 2:56:55
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@LieraPlays
@LieraPlays Жыл бұрын
Should we watch all endings in the next video so I can clarify for myself all the things I didn't get?
@Helpimnoob
@Helpimnoob Жыл бұрын
I love this idea!
@Deathtonado
@Deathtonado Жыл бұрын
i would also recommend watching the Mass Effect 4/5 trailer
@StarFox_MMXXIV
@StarFox_MMXXIV Жыл бұрын
As I said in my comment I think you definitely should. According to your thoughts in the outro I think some clarification is needed for at least one of the endings. Watching the video for each ending will surely help (more than it helped any of the first time players all those years ago as none of those videos were even in the game on first release, they were only added months later with the so called "Extended Cut" DLC so we mostly had to work it by ourselves at first). I also think it's a moot point discussing what ending is the best one or could be considered the best one before you've seen them all and truly consider those endings not as separate single events but in regards of everything that happened and everything you learned in the course of the whole trilogy, everything the trilogy tried to show you. These endings are not separate events, they are supposed to be the final result of three games. So ask yourself the question "is that ending in accordance with the notions the games put forward most of the time? And with the way I reacted myself to events most of the time?"
@morrigu1995
@morrigu1995 Жыл бұрын
Yes please! I'd definitely enjoy seeing your reactions to the rest of the potential endings (Including the "4th" ending)
@TexasAnlaShok
@TexasAnlaShok Жыл бұрын
Sure
@deathdaryl
@deathdaryl Жыл бұрын
"I'm proud of you." Is a punch in the gut every time.
@geotcxs1697
@geotcxs1697 Жыл бұрын
Hurts even more playing as Male Shep. "You did good SON" sound more close and personal than "CHILD" 💔😭
@manuelschumacher3342
@manuelschumacher3342 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, especially if you play as street orphan shepard ...
@SnW_Wolf
@SnW_Wolf Жыл бұрын
@@geotcxs1697 Even more if you mod it to add the lines that they removed about being a father/mother
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
That line... And joker that does not want to leave you...
@suckmymiddlefinger4350
@suckmymiddlefinger4350 11 ай бұрын
Mass effect: "You thought this would be game with a happy ending, but it was I!!! A punch in your feelings!!"
@matd675
@matd675 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Stargazer at the very end 3:03:58 is actually voiced by Buzz Aldrin. The second person to set foot on the Moon.
@redwings0142
@redwings0142 11 ай бұрын
Shepard was also named after Alan Shepard. The 2nd person and 1st American to go to space, and the 5th and oldest person to set foot on the moon.
@fosstera
@fosstera 10 ай бұрын
@@redwings0142 i had to look that up to double check. huge congrats to Shepard, i didnt think he went
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
The final two conversations with Garrus are the only times Jennifer Hale broke a bit in the voice recording booth.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
Originally, Anderson's final words were longer, but it was heavily cut down as it contradicted his backstory from the books/comics. The speech also included his final order for Shepard: to survive, have a family, live a happy life.
@HanithSVK
@HanithSVK Жыл бұрын
Honestly, that would not fit in with the story... You and Anderson fought to wipe Reapers and save galaxy. It would be hell of a leap if suddenly Anderson starts to talk about you having family. Not to mention that it could be considered cruel knowing, that Shep. was heavily wounded and had about same chance to escape from the Citadel with her/his injuries and quickly find medical help as Anderson himself. edit. i mean Shep. was in totally unexplored part of the Citadel. Even IF someone got to the Citadel to save him(if it did not exploded after ending) they would have like next to 0 chance of finding Shep. before he/she bleeds out. It is simple impossible.
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 5 ай бұрын
@@HanithSVK Not entirely impossible. HIghly improbable sure, But lets face it, even if she bled out, you can be sure that Miranda showed up and made a very clear case that shepard is owed another rebuilding. She saved the entire galaxy, and she was owed by everybody. So, in that case, Shepard likely woke up again in Huerta Memorial or a lab. More likely, she was found pretty damn quick, by Hackett, like priority one in securing the citadel (don't need that thing falling on earth) and if the body existed, she would be given likely a state funeral on the citadel, cept guess what, she's still breathing. Whereupon Hackett gets doctors like there and then to stabilize her, and give Anderson a proper burial. I just don't see Hackett not coming back for her or Anderson asap, on the just in case.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
Since the original Reaper AI was based off the Leviathan, it possess the same ability to take form as a familiar person to speak through. So it chose the child, though in hologram form.
@manofwarb
@manofwarb Жыл бұрын
"It is not something that can be ... forced." Precisely why I never choose Synthesis - that ending has you invasively modify all life at a genetic level without anyone's consent.
@freedomefighterbrony9053
@freedomefighterbrony9053 Жыл бұрын
Oh so let’s kill all the geth and edi and fuck all life in the galaxy to be destroyed by synthetics such a great way to end it giving a big middle finger to everyone who survived
@WarBird115
@WarBird115 Жыл бұрын
I understood the synthesis that way: It cant be forced as you cant force a newborn to walk. The muscles havent developed enough yet. Or you cant make a monkey talk like us altough they can understand us "somewhat"(Sign language). Our vocal anatomy has evolved due to evolution. Some things need time to evolve or..."cook". While you do it infact without consent. As the child said "It is the final stage of all life" and it is where the problems started with in the ME universe. Some things went wrong but i suppose all the past knowledge that the reapers possess could serve the synthesis solution in a way that every species(DNA) can accept.
@DumblyDorr
@DumblyDorr Жыл бұрын
I respect that - it's a huge concern. For myself, I can never bring myself to decide that way, though. I think the Leviathans and intelligence were right about synthetics eventually destroying all organic life unless there is a permanent solution. In that case, modifying all currently existing life in the galaxy (while making the collective knowledge of all civilizations ever harvested available to all) to me seems to be the lesser evil compared to genociding every currently extant synthetic species and failing to prevent the extinction of all organic life by future synthetics. But none of the choices are self-evidently correct, so that's obviously as debatable as any other. It depends both on how likely you think that total extinction of organic life is going to be and on how you value preventing that, refusing to commit genocide and salvaging the collective knowledge of all harvested civilizations versus violating the autonomy of every currently existing individual. And that's what I actually like about the ending - it's a huge moral conundrum that we each solve in our own way. Sadly, it also led to vitriolic flamewars because people thought that their choice was *obviously* the only morally defensible one and thus had to belittle and insult others.
@manofwarb
@manofwarb Жыл бұрын
@@DumblyDorr remember though, that Reapers harvest civilizations once they hit a threshold of technological development. That threshold just so happens to be the technological level that asari, salarians and turians are currently at. So, any collective knowledge frrom previously harvested civilizations isn't going to be any better than what is already currently available. Remember what Legion said - accepting one technological solution, blinds you to alternatives. Humans could come up with a way to achieve synthesis that works best for them, turians come up with something different that functions well with their hierarchical society. Each species would be free to achieve synthesis on their terms at their pace. That way, we don't end up with a "cavemen with nuclear weapons" scenario.
@DumblyDorr
@DumblyDorr Жыл бұрын
​@@manofwarbAn interesting thought for sure - but I don't think I can agree with the conclusion of your first paragraph. It would be truly miraculous if civilizations from different cycles at the point of harvesting would have the exact same knowledge base. One would certainly know a good number of things the other wouldn't, and vice versa - it's only required that technology in the galaxy is advanced enough to create the kind of synthetics that threaten the survival of organics. But even in computer science and AI research, the mere parity in terms of level of danger to organic life doesn't mean that the used knowledge, techniques and technologies must be the same. There might even be things to learn in that area. The Protheans with their understanding of physics (being able to "read" the "memory" of objects) are a good example of knowledge we don't have in this cycle. Thus, making the knowledge of all harvested civilizations available will certainly be huge treasure-trove of scientific knowledge - and of cultural achievements (let's not forget that all the knowledge of artistic works and philosophical works would be preserved as well). I'd imagine galactic civilization after synthesis and the availability of all collective knowledge of harvested civilizations would also be a lot closer to matter re-synthesis technology (programmable matter). As for your second paragraph - that all assumes that synthetics won't wipe out these organic civilizations before that - which is quite possible, since Quarians creating the Geth already were the "cavemen with nuclear weapons". In any case - the issue remains complex. I love these kinds of thought-experiments and friendly discussions. So thank you for you input - and for giving me something to think about.
@jack_katz
@jack_katz Жыл бұрын
Mass Effect 3s soundtrack is an absolute masterpiece!
@SirTayluh
@SirTayluh Жыл бұрын
Tali if you romance you and take her on the last push. "Go back to Rannoch, build yourself a home." Tali: (whimpering) "I have a home...come back to me." My heart breaks every time I play this game. Try to do a yearly run. It's been about a decade of playthroughs and I still have never managed to do a full renegade run. I always falter being mean to the characters I've come to adore so much. If this franchise doesn't make you cry at least once, something is broken. Perfect ending on your first playthrough, completely blind. Good on you!
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
The final conversation with Garrus before the charge really cements how much of an unofficial married couple they are during ME3. When their work is done, they're taking the kids and taking a trip to the beach, lol.
@BenjaminKleager
@BenjaminKleager Жыл бұрын
Great Playthrough - congratulations! Regarding the Catalyst: The AI doesn't exactly do the same thing synthetics and organics do - it is essentially using the entire galaxy as the stage for an ongoing process of trial and error. In each cycle, it checks whether or not synthetics and organics can manage to coexist without conflict. If they don't, it uses the Reapers to "wipe the slate clean". I think it does that because it believes that if the organics vs synthetics conflict was left unchecked for too long, it could result in the total destruction of all organic life - including the "primitive" races. After the "reset", it then allows the natural evolution of the primitive species to progress - essentially restarting the process. The citadel is the core control element that ensures that the civilizations to come develop along the path that leads to the same organics vs. synthetics confrontation. As long as the outcome of that confrontation is conflict, the reset via Reaper will always happen. The Catalyst was essentially waiting for one cycle to "get it right". Until Shepard forced it to find a new solution.
@nemangame
@nemangame 8 ай бұрын
I really wish the writers put more explanations and hints at this being true throughout this last game. It goes over the heads of about 95% of the people and to them it just seems nonsensical, even though it makes perfect sense.
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 5 ай бұрын
@@nemangame Made perfect sense to me.
@TwistedwithPower
@TwistedwithPower 4 ай бұрын
Bingo
@Svana931
@Svana931 Жыл бұрын
I always personally go with destroy. It is the only one that just feels right to me. Control was the Illusive Man's solution and he was indoctrinated. Synthesis was Saren's solution and he was indoctrinated. Inaction just isn't a real solution and is pretty much what the Reapers are doing by continuing the same cycle over and over again. So I am always left with destruction as my only choice, because it is the only solution which has not been put forward by the Reapers or the Catalyst.
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 5 ай бұрын
I have always chosen synthesis, because of having access to the information and cultures that came before, its the bold choice I grant you, But think about it. If you choose destroy, the cycles are over forever, But you have the Leviathan out there, and their big honkin deal was controlling everyone in the galaxy and having them pay tribute to them. There is every chance, they'd do it again, remember the collectors (former protheans) are still out there too. This way, everyone is united and connected, and no one gets the upper hand or can go back to scheming. There may even be a chance to reverse what happened to the protheans, under the strict understanding that they are not the end all be all either. Longer term it makes alot more sense. But you die, you'll be spread across the galaxy only maybe vaguely aware of anything if at all. Synthesis keeps everyone alive today and gets rid of the future threats. BUT you become the one making the choice for everyone and who should really have that ultimate authority? Destroy makes the most sense of agency. We destroy the reapers, we rebuild, we can get EDI back online, and the Geth (We only need to get one geth hardsuit working and it'll do the rest), and you live. So, obvious choice? But now you live in a galaxy where you know the Leviathan might make a play again, take over the collectors and start some stuff because they wan't their tribute. With Control, that just means you get to make that decision over and over again for eternity, and F THAT. SO Destroy and synthesis are the only real choices. Destroy if you want a future that's largely uncertain but with a whole lot of free will and Synthesis, if you want paradise for everyone you love that you will never see yourself. In the end its a question of faith verse practicality. Do I believe in the paradise that could come or do I believe we'll get there eventually, but alot of death is going to happen and every I love will die eventually. THere's no right answer between those two, just a choice, a very human choice.
@scl9671
@scl9671 Ай бұрын
The main reason I could never pick destroy is that all of the knowledge etc of all the civilizations that were destroyed by the reapers would be permanently lost. Their great sacrifices in ensuring the design of the crucible remains for the next cycle. With Synthesis their struggle was not forgotten they live on in the bodies of every living being.
@mattiusgabe7354
@mattiusgabe7354 Жыл бұрын
Anderson's death broke me. He was like a father figure to Shepard.
@ajstyles5704
@ajstyles5704 Жыл бұрын
I like spacer background, so Shepard has a family.
@gdmascot8497
@gdmascot8497 Жыл бұрын
Admittedly, the catalyst doesn't do a great job of explaining, but here's my understanding of its reasoning based on what it said and some clues I pieced together from the leviathan dlc and the prothean VI. The reapers weren't about ending conflict themselves, so much as they were a stall tactic, buying time for the catalyst to figure out how to reach Synthesis or an equally viable solution. Before resorting to the reapers, the catalyst tried several times to resolve conflict between organics and synthetics, but nothing ever worked permanently. You might point to the geth and quarians as an example of peaceful resolution, but keep in mind that the peace is still very new and still very shaky. There is still a vast disconnect between the two forms of life. Remember that Tali and Legion, despite growing to trust and care for each other, were willing to sacrifice the other's species to save their own. The destroy ending further exemplifies this. Choosing this means that Shepard is willing to sacrifice all synthetics to save organics, further proving the catalyst's point that neither views the other as an equally valid form of life, making future conflict inevitable. Another thing to keep in mind is the geth are really just starting to evolve. They have only achieved a fraction of their potential. Imagine where they'll be in a hundred, or a thousand years. When a new conflict arises, organics would stand no chance. Eventually, synthetics would have the means to wipe out all organic life if they so desired. We know that the reapers could do so easily if their objective wasn't instead to harvest them. From a purely logical standpoint, the catalyst is correct that their actions are the only thing stopping such an advanced form of synthetic life from evolving, which in turn saves organics from an inevitable extinction. That is why I think synthesis is the best ending. Destroy is solving conflict with more conflict; a continuation of the flawed and brutal system that will always end in the strong dominating the weak until something stronger dominates them. Control does represent an end to this brutal system, but at the cost of free will. To ensure that peace lasts, Shepard/the reapers have to see to it that nothing ever surpasses them, thus keeping all other forms of life under their thumb; comfortable perhaps, but inherently stagnant and subservient. Synthesis has the most unknowns but also the most potential. It gives all life the potential to evolve in tandem, instead of one surpassing the next. What they will evolve into is unknown, and they could still succumb to more petty forms of conflict, but it is the only option that gives hope for a diverse, growing, and peaceful future.
@TabbyVee
@TabbyVee 11 ай бұрын
The stargazer at the end credits has one of my favorite lines of the game now, purely because we know that Mass Effect 4 is coming soon. Child: "Tell me another story about the Shepard." Stargazer: "Okay, one more story." Queue ME4 Intro- I can't wait
@Vedexent_
@Vedexent_ Жыл бұрын
Whether or not one agrees with the end choice, I think you gave the options due diligence and consideration :) Well played, over a long complex epic :)
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
Garrus: "It's time we get you back home, Shepard." After visiting so many planets through the series, there's almost a feeling of the fantasy crossing into reality by seeing the team on Earth with Shepard.
@derecho7926
@derecho7926 Жыл бұрын
Only tip of the iceberg with that comment; let's just say Hale has even a better response with that moment, confirmed by the VA herself with N7 Day vids.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
@@derecho7926 What'd she say?
@DougO_
@DougO_ Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on "perfect" ending! Anderson would have been proud of your choice at the end.
@freedomefighterbrony9053
@freedomefighterbrony9053 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes killing all the geth and edi and fucking over all life in the galaxy to be destroyed by synthetics such a great way to go so “perfect”
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
With the damage to the Citadel, Bioware confirmed all named characters already present on the citadel were safely in emergency bunkers.
@paulo23pd
@paulo23pd Жыл бұрын
2:56:34 I was waiting to see your reaction to this and it was beautiful! Thank you for playing all the Mass Effect games I don’t know what I’m going to do now except play them myself! ❤
@Rkay421
@Rkay421 Жыл бұрын
90% of the time pick destroy and consider it my canon ending. It feels like the only real option. Control you are just becoming the illusive man so screw that. Synthesis I can’t force that on the galaxy. I mean what if people don’t want their DNA rewritten no I won’t do that. Hackett told me dead reapers is how we win this. This has been our goal for 3 games and now that we made it we don’t do it no we end this war we have shown organics and synthetic life can coexist. It’s sad EDI and the geth must be sacrificed but I think they would be willing to give up their life to rid the galaxy of the reapers just like so many organics were. There is a 4th hidden option many don’t know which is the refuse path. Not choosing anything the war continues and you leave it to the next cycle to decide what happens
@АлексейГальцов-х8д
@АлексейГальцов-х8д 3 ай бұрын
4th way is one of 2 true endings. Without Karpishin's vision we've lost the meaning of this series: MASS EFFECT. Galaxy is dying during using null-element. And at the end of 3rd game we still have no decision.. Ai is not a problem: Sheppard solved this problem on Rannoch 1 day ago. Official 3-colored endings are bs, none of our decisions make sense at all. Endings are emotional but without any sense
@Rkay421
@Rkay421 3 ай бұрын
@@АлексейГальцов-х8д it’s a not true ending it’s a cop out
@Paragon_north
@Paragon_north Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Destroy ending club! Metaphorically, Illusive man is Control, Saren is Synthesis and Anderson is Destroy ending. Game has left bread crumbs to help you choose the most fitting ending
@thembill8246
@thembill8246 Жыл бұрын
Highly disagree about Saren. He didn't want synthesis: he wanted organics to surrender to what he saw as the supremacy of synthetics. I still think synthesis is the ideal ending, as well, though I get that it's a narrative dead end.
@Paragon_north
@Paragon_north Жыл бұрын
@@thembill8246 I wish you were right but then we both would be wrong. Go back to ME1 finale, in Saren's own words, he believed the relationship between organic and synthetic was symbiotic. Joining both organic and synthetic life was the true pinnacle of evolution and destiny of all organics life. You can debate on the choice of his words but that's Synthesis in a nutshell
@squares4u
@squares4u 11 ай бұрын
@@Paragon_north Which is ok. There’s nothing to indicate that synthesis = indoctrination. The devs have come out and said the ending slides aren’t a figment of Shep’s imagination, or a fantasy, whatever people want to say. It is the pinnacle of evolution, and it prevents any further misunderstandings between organics and synthetics in the future. Destroy just means the awful wars will repeat infinitely.
@johnP0908
@johnP0908 10 ай бұрын
@@squares4u It always have bothered me from the fact that the Synthesis ending only used Shepard, a HUMAN. as a template for this "evolution" to work on EVERYONE. sure the "upgrades" does sound good on paper. but what are the implications of these "changes" in the long run specially if they specifically only use one organic being as a template in this forced evolution? we might be able to understand each other after said evolution yet what is the cost. there must be a cost. every ending has it's own consequences. Synthesis sounds too good to be true.
@johnP0908
@johnP0908 10 ай бұрын
@@thembill8246 Synthesis only leads to more questions rather than answers. because of how vague it was. plus since this game is Mass Effect. a game of choices and consequences. Synthesis sounds too good to be true.
@Dradan659
@Dradan659 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of playing Andromeda?
@ems7448
@ems7448 Жыл бұрын
If you pay close attention to what actually happens versus what the Starbrat says, you notice that it's only technology based on the Reapers that is destroyed - like EDI, the Mass Relays, the Reapers themselves. Not all technology is destroyed, after all there are still spaceships flying around, and people are using data pads in the epilogue slides. So, while all of the Geth who received Reapers upgrades would be destroyed, if there were any pockets of independent Geth anywhere that did not receive any upgrades, I assume those would have been untouched... it's possible, therefore, that not ALL of the Geth have been wiped out in the Destroy ending.
@StarFox_MMXXIV
@StarFox_MMXXIV Жыл бұрын
>"This is the end... I should go." Good one :) And the pendant is back in its full glory because of course, it is required here :) >5:46 You know in the military, when people start saying "it's been an honor" it's generally because they think the chances are pretty good they'll never see you again, either because you'll be dead, or they'll be dead, or you'll all be dead... If there's one last thing you want to say to a comrade in arms you respect before a battle, this is it. So it's always comforting to hear. >7:52 What makes you say that? All the "it has been an honor"? :D Or maybe the nightmare where you and the child burnt together? I mean, BioWare literally spread the endgame with clues regarding what was coming; I guess they didn't want players to be too upset... And yet, some people managed to ignore most of those clues in a "oh, all we be fine" way. >10:01 Oh, I know what you may think... And yes this scene would play very differently in other... circumstances. >11:45 This is were things are getting real. Hackett, whom is currently the top commander of all the alliance forces and by extension of the fleet you assembled, wouldn't just stop by to say hello and have some tea and biscuits :) >16:57 The Lancer is the best gun in the game and the most efficient when fully upgraded to level 10 on a NG+ (because it looses a lot of weight) so it's definitely the best alternative to any SMG, even for a sniper. However I wouldn't have suggested it on a first playthrough because considering you're a sniper, weight is definitely an issue especially because your favorite sniper rifle is already one of the heaviest in the game. With that said the fact that it hits hard (for an AR) and has unlimited ammo compensate the disadvantages, if you manage to use it because clearly you always have an issue with repeating fire weapons, whatever the game is :) >18:05 You still almost double the time it takes for your abilities (including the cloak) to refresh compared to your previous loadout (11% faster refresh against almost 60% previously) so I hope you will use the damn Lancer :D Otherwise this odd choice just would be plain silly. Especially on the final run -- one tends to test new weapons on inconsequential missions, not on a mission that decides the fate of the Galaxy :D Still the best assault rifle in the game IMO, but not for your class on a first playthrough. >43:22 Apparently Shepard's memory was badly shot because she doesn't even remember that Anderson already told her were he was born :D >Anderson: "...it took the Reapers to brings us together." Funny thing is, I can't imagine even an alien invasion of Earth would be bringing people together. Lot of scavengers, survivalists and militias shooting at anyone they don't know, traitors trying to get the upper hand, sure... but bringing people together? Hard to even imagine. In all of human history there's no indication that this may happen. True, we've never been invaded by an alien species but so far our "cooperative" and "bringing us together" records are far to be stellar. And I don't think that "humanity" (as in our species as a whole) is a concept that flies really high with most people. It's always about countries, races... etc. The fact that we're all in the same boat barely registers. >53:50 There were some mix up with some of the conversations here and there. That one with Miranda only truly makes sense if you romanced her in ME2 and 3. Otherwise it's just talking without an actual point being made. They didn't really even made an effort for all the Shepards that actually didn't romance her. >Jacob: "Shepard, that you?" Why, you have shitty eyes too? Welcome to 50% of the human population :D >Jacob: "There's this little bar in Rio we have to check" Now that's true optimism right there. The guy doesn't even envisage one second that his bar might a pile of rubble by now, and Rio too :) >55:00 As I said, Bioware left so many clues to prepare players for the worst... I was perfectly OK with that. Not overjoyed but OK. Shepard giving their life for the survival of the entire Galaxy? As far as sacrifices go, one can do so much worse than that. >59:41 "Does that even work?" Genetics says "No" but one can always dream... it's free :D Who knows, maybe one day a mad scientist will find a way to break the inter-species anti-crossbreed protections put in place by nature and we'll have dogcat or humhorse... or whatever other crazy things you may think of... I'm sure there is at least one scientist out there thinking about it :D You know? Just for the sake of testing and science? >1:06:15 An interesting thought there. Remember when you first met Liara and she told you how Asari reproduction worked and that physical contact was not required? That makes one wonders what just happened there. Maybe nothing... or maybe Bioware was making provisions for future plans. Thing is, this scene occurs whether you romance Liara or not and by design, they made it impossible for the player to miss Liara on their way in (though the player can refuse her offer). The whole thing always seemed a bit fishy to me... even the way Liara offers it sounds fishy. And her "Thank you. For everything" got to make you at least a bit suspicious there... >1:14:38 Well, next playthrough as a renegade you'll see what other options he has :D >1:39:40 It's not so much the lack of accuracy but the recoil and the class you're playing. Only a soldier can use an assault rifle with barely any recoil. Some other classes like engineer and adept require the Lancer to be equipped with a stabilization mod or they will spray bullets all over the place. As a sniper you're somewhat in mid-range, not excellent at controlling recoil from an automatic weapon but not terrible either. It could definitely be worse. >1:45:40 Really? There are people not liking you combat-pausing? Why? It's a game mechanic, if Bioware didn't want players to use such a feature why would they implement it in the first place? >2:17:45 It's interesting because Shepard hallucinating is one thing a lot of the fans wished for back then :D And if you want to know more it's enough to google "ME3 Ending indoctrination theory" to have the full explanation. Of course that was never the intent at Bioware and even if some of the game writers found this alternative way to look at the game pretty interesting, they also certified they never intended the story to be that way. In fact they couldn't because when they developed ME1 they weren't even sure there would be enough interest for a ME2 and even less for a trilogy so Mass Effect was not envisaged as a trilogy from the get go. Only the success of ME1 ensured that there would be more games, the writers weren't thinking as far ahead as ME3 when they were working on ME1, clearly. There are even some prevalent elements in ME2 that never made it into ME3 so even by the time they were wrapping things up in ME2, what would happen in ME3 was still pretty much unclear. >2:28:38 The death of Anderson hit me much harder than the death of Shepard actually. I was expecting Shepard to die but Anderson was a true surprise... Following below
@StarFox_MMXXIV
@StarFox_MMXXIV Жыл бұрын
>2:30:48 Pretty valid reaction right there. Reminds me of myself more than a decade ago. Yeah, this is the AI you've been told about but back then we had no way to know that because the Leviathan DLC didn't exist. So literally this "thing" was dropped on us out of nowhere like the proverbial "Deus Ex Machina". Thing is, the whole conversation with the "starchild" (common nickname for the catalyst) always gives me a headache, even knowing that this is the AI Leviathan told us about. It's like talking to a wall. And it didn't get better after Bioware re-wrote some of the dialogues in order, ironically, to make it better. >2:32:20 Exactly! But for whatever dumb reason it has the starchild doesn't connect the dots between the two situations. Otherwise it would already have eliminated itself realizing it was (and continue to be) part of the problem, not a way to the solution. >2:33:26 True again. This thing is so totally flawed that it cannot even make the distinction anymore between what it was designed to do and what it has been doing all this time. On the one hand its program is to find a solution for peace but on the other hand it doesn't want the organics to succeed in finding one (it doesn't even acknowledge the current situation with the Geth. Synthetics are fighting synthetics to preserve a way of life of both organics and synthetics... take that in your face little guy). >2:34:37 My advice: do like me. I stopped trying to get any sort of common sense out of the Catalyst a long time ago because there's none to be found. Generally when I get to this conversation I skip it as fast as I can until it presents me with its solutions :D Everything else is just repeated nonsense and hammering the same old nail. >"What is the point of this preservation?" Beats me. I had a decade to think about it and I'm still no closer to any kind of logical answer to that question :D However, when you think about it, it seem suspiciously close to synthesis, just in a gentler way. >Catalyst: "When the fire burns, is it at war? Is it in conflict? Or is it simply doing what it was created to do!" And one more time you're missing the point. You were NOT created to do what you have been doing. Part of the problem right there. How could you be part of the solution to the problem? >"No, I don't buy that." Welcome to the camp of all the people who didn't buy it then :D >Catalyst: "I was created to bring balance, to be the catalyst for peace between organics and synthetics" And you did such a splendid job right there! Millions of years of slaughter by your own creations and you're no closer to fulfill your original programming. You, my little AI, is the greatest moron ever created. No strike that because even a moron after having tried with no success the same thing for millions of years would have realized that adjustments to the plan needed to be made. >Catalyst: "...they failed to understand they were part of the problem themselves" Ooh, kinda like you then? The apple never falls far from the tree as they say :) >Catalyst: "The flaws of their organic reasoning..." And if we talked about the many holes in your synthetic reasoning instead for a change? I've seen gruyere with considerably less :D >2:37:26 Right on the nose once more. The Catalyst was never part of a solution because it is part of the problem. However it will provide you with some solutions but not from his own volition, just because successfully docking a fully functional Crucible to the Citadel introduces new parameters and forces it to reassess the situation. >Catalyst: "My solution won't work anymore" And it took you millions of years to deduce that? When has your solution even worked just once? >2:43:03 That works very well if you think you're God :D Altering the future of trillions of people in completely unpredictable ways without asking them first... is it not what a God is supposed to do? It's also a very Deus Ex solution, we're talking about merging biological and machine here. This is Deus Ex territory, not Mass Effect where understanding, cooperation and cohabitation were always put forward first and foremost. And there's a little something you seem to have missed there about the options. The colors. Control is the paragon option, destroy is the renegade option and synthesis the neutral one. >"We're doing it" Yep, there's a reason why destroy is the renegade option though... You're also killing EDI and the Geth. Joker will be pleased :) And to be clear because I've seen a lot of wishful thinking that are supposing that Bioware write endings with consequences just to cancel those consequences later... The Geth are truly gone, Sure you can reconstruct a race of synthetic but they won't be Geth and Legion's efforts to bring true intelligence to his people have been in vain and the Quarian have lost their quick way to re-adapting to their environment. As for EDI, the Catalyst was at least pretty clear about that: ALL AI will be terminated. There's no special magical condition there. It doesn't matter if she was in a box inside the Normandy considering the force of the catalyst (we're talking about something able to explode mass relays here) it wouldn't even matter if she was buried inside Fort Knox. And if the Alliance even thought there was a chance to somehow "recover" her, her name wouldn't be on the memorial. There again, you can reprogram an AI, but it won't be EDI, will it? And the mass relays are also technological in nature and will be destroyed or damaged beyond functionality too except that nobody but the Reapers (and maybe Leviathan) know how to build or even repair one. Do you see Leviathan helping with that? Which means that unless a miracle discovery happens the whole Galaxy will be stuck at FTL speeds for a decade or more. >2:46:30 Dead wrong there. At least according to most fans and a certain video. Because you chose the only ending where Shepard gets a chance, however minimal, to survive. >2:55:48 It's the only ending where Shepard plaque doesn't end up on the wall and I told you why just above (although there's no way for Garrus -- or whoever Shepard romanced -- to know that). That's what made fans go "Yay! Shepard survived!". Again no official confirmation, only this and the bit of movie that follows (where one can see what could be Shepard's dying breath for all we know but for some reason everyone goes ballistic about that). In fact a lot of people who chose this ending do it for this sole reason. >3:00:00 It could also be of immense importance in the control ending. Reapers can be a force for good. It depends on the one controlling them. >3:00:26 You mean, the kind of synthetics that you just betrayed and completely eradicated in order to protect organics? Sure because when the next AI race will learn about that little episode they will be overjoyed and totally trusting everything organics do and say. You just set an example of organic behavior and you were considered the best among organics, even by the Geth themselves. People will have to deal with that little "faux-pas" first, either by banishing it from history or being clever enough to make the next AI species think that the sacrifice of an entire AI species by someone they considered to be their best ally among organics was really truly needed... Diplomatic nightmare, good luck with that. :D Anyway, this concludes the epic journey through the Mass Effect trilogy. And to answer your question yes, I think you should actually watch the other endings even if only for yourself. You might be surprised. Although in all honesty none of the endings were ever appealing to me. I have a less terrible one so to speak, a "meh" one and a worst one. And when I'm really pissed off with the whole Catalyst thing I'm choosing the fourth ending because it's still a valid ending despite being the most useless one. But there's not one ending in ME3 that leaves me in awe saying "this is the perfect ending and I definitely want to replay that part". In fact as soon as I approach the moment to go back to Earth I really, really slowdown. I think Mass Effect perfectly represents the idea that a good ending is always more difficult to achieve than a good beginning. Well this year and a half (around that) was a splendid journey. Through one of the most interesting universe in video gaming with some of the most fantastically designed characters (a couple of them could have admittedly been better). I don't know if the chosen ending will have any impact in a future ME4/5 (depending how people want to number it -- some consider Andromeda to be #4, I don't) or if Bioware just intend to take what they consider to be the canon ending and go from there -- it would suck for a lot of people if this canon ending was the Synthesis one though...
@garyballard179
@garyballard179 Жыл бұрын
Mass Effect _was_ planned as a trilogy from the beginning. After the success of KOTOR, the doctors gave Casey the green light to invest the company's future in a trilogy of connected games. While the story for all three games wasn't fully planned out from the beginning (and large parts of ME2 changed with Drew Karpyshyn's departure), there was a basic outline in place.
@nickstripp
@nickstripp Жыл бұрын
Amazing play through. Followed along during the entirety of ME3. Appreciate how much you loved these games.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
Since Liara's dialogue takes priority over the other characters, there's some good lines from Garrus missed during the final mission. Specifically in the Mako, while Liara says it's an honor to be on the team, Garrus' line is more personal, that it's fitting that the final battle lies on them.
@vitanksi
@vitanksi Жыл бұрын
Incredible. Thanks for sharing your journey. From Marauder shields, saying bye to Garrus, and the confused look on your face when space kid came out. Quite an emotional rollercoaster.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
The ending theme that plays over the credits is "Immoral Action", representing how no matter the ending, Shepard had to make a costing choice she wouldn't have wished for. Also composed by the same band who did the ME1 credits song.
@screamybingus707
@screamybingus707 Жыл бұрын
The best ending - at least back in 2012 - was letting the true hero of Mass Effect, Marauder Shields, shoot you and prevent you from having to listen to Starchild's nonsense.
@Vedexent_
@Vedexent_ Жыл бұрын
I remember the discussions about "Marauder Shields" :D
@sofajockeyUK
@sofajockeyUK Жыл бұрын
@@Vedexent_ I still have a "Marauder Shields' Tshirt. Thankfully the 'extended cut' (now the default) went a long way to making the ending that exists understandable.
@THT619
@THT619 Жыл бұрын
He lived as Marauder Shields, he died as Marauder Health
@dp5-1
@dp5-1 Жыл бұрын
OMG With your ending? Garrus did not put the Plackard of Shepard's name up. It showed Shepards dog tags. And his helmet. In tact. *There is a great chance Shepard survived!!! glad I watched your vid till the end!. Never knew... 🎉🎉👍👍👍👍👍👌👌🔥🔥 Talk about the paradoxes created, by choices the player makes... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I believe your choice with the female Shepard so far overall? Since I have already played through 5 times already? IS the best choice. Whether by blind luck in choosing? Or deliberately. 😊
@petrusjnaude7279
@petrusjnaude7279 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on finishing this epic trilogy. For my part, I chose destroy because that was always the end goal. I was really sad about the fate of the EDI and the Geth, since it is strongly implied that they died. After discovering the little clip that seems to hint at Shepard's survival, it became my only choice, if only for the possibility of a happily ever after with our chosen love interest.
@michaelglinski3809
@michaelglinski3809 8 ай бұрын
I have always been a "Destroy" ending, for pretty much every reason you stated. From day one, Mass Effect has been about a horrible thing happening, and doing everything we can to stop that from happening. Destroy does that. Control is simply replacing one master with another. And who's to say Shepard's morals, altruistic as they may be, won't change and shift as the millennia pass? The Catalyst thought it was doing the right thing when IT started off as well, and look how that turned out. Finally, Synthesis. It never sat well with me, because it IS a forced transformation. No say, no bodily autonomy- here, cut off your arm and replace it with a robot hand so the Space Cuttlefish stop attacking us. And as I get older, the "Information is shared, so there is no longer any misunderstandings" bit holds less and less credibility as well. Look at the internet: a free exchange of information, that everyone can access. We're all connected, so all misunderstandings can't happen, correct? Not only has that NOT happened, in many ways we've gone backwards.
@predetor911
@predetor911 Жыл бұрын
I hope you’ll give Mass Effect Andromeda a go. Despite what people might say, it’s definitely worth checking out for any Mass Effect fan.
@theboving5516
@theboving5516 Жыл бұрын
It is actually okay. Not as god a mass 1 2 3 but okay. The gameplay is god especially the player creation. You can use all power if you chose to. The lack is the story. Not as god as in 1 2 3.
@SethScapesGaming
@SethScapesGaming Жыл бұрын
This. I honestly didn’t find as many issues with it as others and I was there from day 1. The issue is it was competing against a trilogy and meant to be only part 1 of a trilogy itself. It didn’t have any more flaws than the first mass effect.
@MandalorianRevan
@MandalorianRevan Жыл бұрын
​@@SethScapesGamingHonestly, I always thought most of the blow back for Andromeda was residual hatred for the Mass Effect 3 ending which was still strong at the time.
@SethScapesGaming
@SethScapesGaming Жыл бұрын
@@MandalorianRevan that’s possible. Personally I mostly thought it was just “hating the new thing for internet clout”
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
​@@MandalorianRevanI felt it was that mass effect has always being about the OP reapers. Thus when playing you must see andromeda as a completely different game. Then it ia fun. The antagonists is not half what the reapers were. This leaves me with 1 problem though. Mass effect 4... what if this is the same ahort coming? And tali... better bw there.
@bunker0129
@bunker0129 Жыл бұрын
I recommend trying all the endings. For me personally Control was out of question because of everything we know of the Reapers. Destroy was out of question because it meant killing all intelligent synthetic lifeforms. Synthesis was my choice because i didn't care about the "cannot be forced" part. No matter how Shep chooses, it will be a choice forced upon everybody. Is Synthesis perfect? No...we can't know if it won't lead to a supercivilisation which effs up the whole galaxy. But...i spent 3 games building bridges between civilisations, even between organics and synthetics. So - for me - it was the only logical conclusion of my actions.
@ajstyles5704
@ajstyles5704 Жыл бұрын
To me, I simply can't pick other than Destroy. No matter how many times I played it, choosing to Destroy makes more and more sense. Even knowing EDI going to die, I still used paragon options with her in ME3. I simply couldnt give a shit about synthetics, they are all programmable, hackable and simply enough, Legion literally reprogrammed(brainwashed), Destroy, download, upgrade at will. And Protheans fought AI quite similar to Synthesis.
@szenszely5143
@szenszely5143 Жыл бұрын
​@@ajstyles5704 You can brainwash (reprogram) humans too. :) It's a very deep question, what is considered alive? If someone have consciousness, emotions, etc. in a synthetic body, shouldn't it recognized at the same level as a human?
@bunker0129
@bunker0129 Жыл бұрын
@@ajstyles5704 Good points...but i could say organics on the other hand had to face extinction and even then they could be barely convinced to unite. The synthesis can solve this problem via making them really see each others viewpoint. And the synths gaining resilience against hacking because it is a two-way merge. Oh, and the vast knowledge stored in our new construction machines (Reapers) comes in handy when rebuilding.
@szenszely5143
@szenszely5143 Жыл бұрын
By the way, I would add a "Death of the Geth" scene for the Destroy ending (if you saved them of course). It would give some more weight to this decision, it seems to me that it's been neglected a little bit.
@ajstyles5704
@ajstyles5704 Жыл бұрын
@@bunker0129 yes, in the beginning they can see each other viewpoint, but, what happens in long term? Remember what Javic said, they dont age, they do not see time as we do, they know why they were created, while Organics spends their entire lifetime searching. And as time goes on, how does an organic prevent being hacked by an AI? I'm just pointing this out, the only thing we removed was war between Synthethics and Organics because they don't understand each other.
@Gyprol
@Gyprol Жыл бұрын
I like how you called out the contradictory nonsense of the little brat immediatly, destroy makes the most sense as Shepard has no reason to trust it at all.
@Danceofmasks
@Danceofmasks 4 ай бұрын
You had a good read on the catalyst. It, just like everyone else in the entire series, only had so much self awareness. Especially if you have no equal, who's going to tell you when you're full of shit?
@adamcampbell743
@adamcampbell743 Жыл бұрын
Saren wanted synthesis, the illusive man wanted control, Anderson wanted destroy, I know who's judgement I trust. What a ride this has been, to relive this trilogy through watching you play brought all the emotions back, as if i was playing it for the first time again, thank you. It was magical.
@DumblyDorr
@DumblyDorr Жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't see that much of a contradiction in the argument of the intelligence. The reapers were/are not supposed to be the solution to "conflict" in general between synthetics and organics - but to the threat of all organic life being wiped out forever by synthetics, which the Leviathans and the intelligence thought would happen eventually unless they prevent it. As for "not something that can be forced" - of course the concern of forcing this on the galaxy is very valid, but I think we can assume the intelligence meant "not something that synthetics can force upon organics" - that organics would have to prove themselves ready for it, which they did - as exemplified and proved by Shepard standing there. Within the world of Mass Effect - I personally think the intelligence is likely correct about the threat of synthetic life eventually ending all organic life forever - and that destroying the reapers without chosing another solution means there is no mechanism in place to prevent that from happening. Thus, IMO synthesis in all likelihood preserves the most life - including that of the Geth and of EDI - and connecting all harvested civilizations to all life in the galaxy. I know these judgements are debatable - as is any choice, and it's great that we can all write our own story. I can certainly respect the choices you made - and you've been so engaged with the story, it's been a real joy to watch. Thank you ❤
@KevinSmithGeo
@KevinSmithGeo Жыл бұрын
Everything after Anderson dies just bothers me. The whole premise of the ending is based on a very vitalist, essentialist, and magical way of thinking which I'd be fine with in a fantasy game, but not Mass Effect. Synthesis is pure nonsensical magic and Destruction is also based on the idea of there being some essential quality of intelligence in a body that was designed by another intelligence that is fundamentally different from one that arose without being designed by an intelligence such that a blast of energy would consistently destroy one without harming the other. The catalyst is, also, really, really stupid.I get that they were probably trying for a "paperclip maximizer" kind of thing where a GAI has an idea of what is good that intuitively seems benign but when taken to a very literal extreme it becomes destructive, but they just didn't pull it off. The Leviathans had to have done a spectacularly bad job of designing the value function for the catalyst in order for it to end up the way it did. Getting this subtly wrong leading to a destructive GAI is a very real possibility that could make for a good story, but this did not do a good job of presenting that idea, assuming that was the intent. There's also the problem that they aren't even subtle about the synthesis ending being "the right one". The writers hit you over the head with what they think the right choice is. I think you were lucky that you misinterpreted something the catalyst said and ended up with a more interesting choice as a result. I'm pretty sure it wasn't saying that its previous attempts at synthesis failed because it would be unethical to impose synthesis without the consent of the people being subject to it, but rather that it had previously been impossible because no one in previous cycles was "ready" and it couldn't force them to be, so it killed them and waited for a cycle where everyone was "ready". So instead of a magical "fix everything button", and two morally questionable alternative options, you got something more akin to three morally questionable options to choose between. Control doesn't have the metaphysical issues that Synthesis and Destruction have, but it has big pragmatic and ethical issues.
@Tbone1991.
@Tbone1991. 8 ай бұрын
Just finished Mass Effect Legererdy Edition this is one of the best game series ive ever completed. Feel sad i finished it. You will never get that experience of finishing it your first play through.😢😢😢
@justinm4497
@justinm4497 Жыл бұрын
good job kid, good job, not many people take that ending, I did, if you control or synthesize, there is NO justice for anything the reapers did over countless ages of killing people.
@apc6539
@apc6539 Жыл бұрын
Me on my playthroughs 1st : Control 2nd: synthesis 3rd: destroy Of all endings i liked syntheses ending, but its not cannon ending
@katymorgan327
@katymorgan327 Жыл бұрын
there was 4 options , you could have shot the kid and refused and put you,re hope with all you,re info in the next cycles people ! this is one of the best series i have ever played and now i think its you,re to , this is why this series is sooo loved !
@morrigu1995
@morrigu1995 Жыл бұрын
Moira Shepard chose to Destroy as she viewed it as her mission from the beginning, despite knowing that it would also be genocide for the Geth and kill EDI. Kit Shepard decided that she'd rather control the Reapers because she's a bit power hungry and found TIM's arguments to be flawed but have merit.
@Vedexent_
@Vedexent_ Жыл бұрын
For me: Rachel ( Balanced Renegade/Paragon - did the right things by her Crew - everyone else could just get TF out of her way - Adept ), chose Synthesis, as it solved the situation, with the smallest body count, and at least inflicted the "solution" uniformly - this is my personal "canonical" ending. Lilith ( Renegade Engineer ) chose Control - but she always was a hard ass. Ivan ( the complete Renegade "dick" character, Infiltrator ) shot the Catalyst, so ... Li-Chen ( Paragon Soldier ) chose Destroy, because that was the mission.
@morrigu1995
@morrigu1995 Жыл бұрын
@@Vedexent_ Moira is a Paragon Infiltrator, and my canon Shep. Kit is a mostly-renegade infiltrator who was usually nice to the crew and hated everyone else.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Жыл бұрын
Janet Shepard (My canon Shepard) is a Mostly Paragon with a bit of Renegade in her. She ultimately choses Control. She cannot betray her friends and allies, taking Destroy off the Table, and she found Synthesis far too invasive. She also does not believe that the peace will last, and with a weakened military, someone needs to keep everyone in check.
@Akandofaul
@Akandofaul Жыл бұрын
Yeaaaaaahhh when she started crying during the space battle I was thinking, I hope she is staying hydrated or this lady is gonna die. 😱 Personally speaking, having our entire playthroughs boiled down to 'red, green or blue' was obnoxious but I favored green thematically - but we all know red is the only one that makes sense canonically.
@kikirikikirlafsdfskd
@kikirikikirlafsdfskd Жыл бұрын
Javik and shard was one of those moments in ME3, when "paragon" option have renegade consequences and "renegade" option paragon ending. Similar to Kelly at beginning. Also, while I always picked synthesis, still, generally ending of ME3 does not make much sense. I heard it was because of some confusion and problems with plotwriting, especially after some of previous authors left game development. Plus, original endings also absent large number of "details" about each ending and were quickly expanded by free-dlc because of players criticism. From what I heard, original storyline was much less confusing and mission on Haestrom in Mass Effect 2 and whole "dark matter/energy" issue were remnants of original storyline. OS would be something like "every advanced race will experiment with dark matter/energy (because of energy sources) which will cause galactic catastrophe, thus reapers destroying advanced civilizations to prevent this and preserve life". This, IMHO, make much more sense than changed storyline.
@jesse8068
@jesse8068 8 ай бұрын
"I, uh... What do you need me to do?" - That broke my heart, first time I heard it.
@Strytax
@Strytax Жыл бұрын
gonna miss your ME videos....gl with the next adventure.
@manuelschumacher3342
@manuelschumacher3342 Жыл бұрын
I think Destroy is a good ending to pick, for all the reasons you said. Especially if you have high enough war assets that the destruction is not too huge. I personally like Control, just because I think it makes for the most interesting story afterwards in my personal headcanon :) Synthesis is interesting in concept, but kind of ... just badly written/explained, unfortunately :(
@pkelly6618
@pkelly6618 Жыл бұрын
Control and Synthesis are both problematic for exactly the reasons you've already come to. Synthesis is basically forcibly modding everybody in the galaxy without permission. That aside, control and Synthesis are the only way to save Edi and the Geth, but not Shepherd. The fewer war assets you have the less well targeted and more indiscriminate the changes you wreak. It's just a damn shame there's not a way to have a strong enough victory to save the Geth and Edi as well as destroy the reapers.
@johnP0908
@johnP0908 10 ай бұрын
You win some, you lose some. that's the sad reality applied on a game like Mass Effect.
@NobodyN7
@NobodyN7 Жыл бұрын
To me Destroy is the best ending, Control I can tolerate, but Synthesis I just despises. It was fun to watch you play the Trilogy. Also at 2:56:36 it was confirmed by Bioware Shepard and whoever you romance do reunited.
@avsbes98
@avsbes98 Жыл бұрын
In my Opinion every ending is equally valid and the only thing that makes one of them more appropriate than the others is the playthrough that preceeded it. In a perfect true paragon run in which the Geth-Quarian War was resolved peacefully, the Genophage was cured and Bakara saved for example, i think Synthesis is the only valid ending, as every other ending would just be completely out of character. In a complete Renegade Run however Control is the appropriate Ending, as that is simply the Choice the Renegade "I'm gonna get the job done on my terms and to my advantage" Shepard would make. Destroy is the appropiate Ending for a "Neutral" run. Refuse the one for "i just barely made it to the Catalyst because i got barely anyone on my side, i'm not in the poition to make this kind of permanent choice". I personally tend towards the pure Paragon Route though. I really hope that ME4/5 finds a way around just making one of the endings canonical, because it would essentially invalidate the entire trilogy for me if after these three games and the problems the ending had and partially still has, it wouldn't even matter which ending i choose because the devs chose for me which one they think is correct - why even give me a choice in this case?
@girlinvt
@girlinvt Жыл бұрын
Allers home world (Bekenstien) was the planet you did Kasumi's loyalty mission on.
@dyegorodriguez2126
@dyegorodriguez2126 Жыл бұрын
I believe this is the best choice. By destroying the reapers you accomplish the objective we have since the very begining. Besides, that's the only option that gives us that last scene of Shepard breathing, and Garrus not placing Shepard's name in the wall.
@lakekoocanusa
@lakekoocanusa Жыл бұрын
So now you see why all of the Mass Effect Fandom got mad on ME3 release. The Ending was basically "congrats, you won! to claim your prize please select one of three ways to off yourself. The End" With one voice, we cried out in sorrow and anger. Bioware agreed to polish it, but no more. It still boils down to which color of Instagram filter do you want the explosion to be? and how would you like to end the life of shepard. The ending breath was ONLY because you got SO many war assets and chose destroy. All others, Shepard no longer has A body. Barring that, the whole trilogy was amazing. obligatory "His name...was Marauder Shields." old meme that the fandom fell in love with.
@cronicasdeltiempo7540
@cronicasdeltiempo7540 Жыл бұрын
The destruction ending seems to me the best solution because its the only one that finally puts an end to the reapers forever. I just cant feel comfortable leaving them roaming around the galaxy in any capacity.
@kikirikikirlafsdfskd
@kikirikikirlafsdfskd Жыл бұрын
yes, but killing EDI and Geths. And it end reapers threat only in short-term, no in long-term (like some future advanced race will repeat this).
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Жыл бұрын
Honestly, hard Disagree. Any ending that requires you to betray your friends and allies is uncatagorically the worst out of the options.
@S0LAVELLANHELL
@S0LAVELLANHELL Жыл бұрын
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim not when destroy is the whole point of the games, and everything we've been working towards lol
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Жыл бұрын
@@S0LAVELLANHELL Doesn't matter. If you have two other perfectly valid choices and _intentionally_ choose the one that basically has you acting with the same logic as _The Catalyst,_ then that means you've made a mistake.
@Vedexent_
@Vedexent_ Жыл бұрын
@@S0LAVELLANHELL 2:57:17
@techdefined9420
@techdefined9420 Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion about this trilogy, did you like it? I have played ME over 1000 hours, followed it since beginning. Liara and Garrus are my favorites. Btw you chose wisely, synthetic life does not deserve synthesis and would be a betrayal to all reaper victims.
@LieraPlays
@LieraPlays Жыл бұрын
Loved it. Definitely one of my all time favorites.
@woodelf71
@woodelf71 Жыл бұрын
Destroy is my ending too, because I'm confident everything else is indoctrination, especially synthesis. If you remember Saren, he was pretty convinced synthesis between organic and synthetic was a wonderful idea, he talked about visions the Sovereign gave him. I believe these visions are similar to the one you get in the green ending, where everything is wonderful and shiny. I believe it all happens in Shepard's mind. Indoctrination consists in making you believe that synthesis is a wonderful idea, and that's exactly what happens when you choose that ending. Imho. Furthermore, I don't trust what the very same AI who tricked and betrayed the Leviathans tells me, I wouldn't even listen to it if I could. AIs can lie, as the game tells you from the very beginning, because they are self aware, and can be afraid to die, have goals, just like organics. Synthesis is described so well by Mordin in ME2 about Protheans becoming Collectors: "No glands, replaced by tech. No digestive system, replaced by tech. No soul. Replaced by tech. Whatever they were, gone forever." "Disrupts socio-technological balance. All scientific advancement due to intelligence overcoming, compensating, for limitations. Can't carry a load, so invent wheel. Can't catch food, so invent spear. Limitations. No limitations, no advancement. No advancement, culture stagnates. Works other way too. Advancement before culture is ready. Disastrous." I also wanted to point out that the Galaxy trusted you to destroy the Reapers, not to turn everyone into something else, without asking them if they are ok with that. I see it as a violence against self-determination, similar to what happened to David. With Synthesis you act like David's brother, forcing everyone into something that they might dislike a lot. Another point is that the whole trilogy teaches you that the best thing is working together though maintaining differences and peculiarities, while synthesis is peace because we are all the same. And being all the same is not enough to get along, since organics moved war to each other and machines did too, heretics against the other Geth for example. About Edi dying, her self awareness is mainly in the Normandy, I believe that only her mobile sexy platform was down and that's why you see her name on the board and Joker is not crying.
@quintyss1290
@quintyss1290 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful, logical read this was.
@woodelf71
@woodelf71 Жыл бұрын
@@quintyss1290 thank you
@Alatzas1
@Alatzas1 Жыл бұрын
Everytime someone points against "destroy" saying that the new war will emerge eventually - they seem to forget that quarians and geth worked it out. Who says it can't be done in the future? BTW, Legion was fighting reapers because geth believed that everyone should progress on their own terms, not because someone's forcing them. And synthesis is exactly that - forcing an antire galaxy an artificial unrequested solution. And Bioware recognized "destroy" as canon, so...
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
Also because Shepard knows what caused the war, and would teach the galaxy what to avoid this time.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
That shot of the Mass Relay when the Crucible arrives is a callback to the ME1 loading screen.
@j9lorna
@j9lorna Жыл бұрын
Mass Effect gamer poop sometime soon please 😀
@adhdgaming-mommywah329
@adhdgaming-mommywah329 Жыл бұрын
You chose as I do every time, I will not ever force synthesis on an unsuspecting population... organic or synthetic. Well done Commander!! ❤❤❤
@squares4u
@squares4u 11 ай бұрын
But you’ll force destruction on the Geth and EDI… the “moral” choice isn’t so cut and dry as many people want to believe in this game
@spectre9948
@spectre9948 11 ай бұрын
@@squares4uIt actually is though. EDI gladly would’ve sacrificed herself for billions of people. As for the Geth. Hackett states „we can rebuild EVERYTHING…“.
@Alfonso88279
@Alfonso88279 11 ай бұрын
You mean forcing what is just an objective upgrade... saving the lives of billions of people that have some kind of handicap, diseases or other problems... because some kind of abstract moral stance. Yeah, thanks for not forcing me to be more intelligent, stronger and immortal. Thank you so much XD
@Alfonso88279
@Alfonso88279 11 ай бұрын
@@spectre9948 But given the other choices, EDI was sacrificed for nothing, she didn't need to die. She did just so some people could stand in their high horses and say "at least I didn't force perfection on an unsuspecting population"... sure.
@johnP0908
@johnP0908 10 ай бұрын
@@Alfonso88279 do we even deserve the "upgrade"? Synthesis is the literal definition of losing individuality since we "understand" each other. do we even lose our morality once this happens? Synthesis is so vague in explaining what would happen to everyone affected by it.
@lonelybanshee8593
@lonelybanshee8593 Жыл бұрын
Liera! Thank you so much for letting us accompany you on this ride. I got the sense from the early going that we were like-minded in our feelings and logic, and this ending proved me right. When the game was released, so many players didn't see the contradictions in the Catalyst's solutions (since it's a machine, it's only concerned with self-preservation, just like that escaped AI on the Citadel in the first game, so it presents the non-Destroy solutions as the appealing ones to distract you from the goal, even though they're the solutions that the two most indoctrinated a-holes in the series, TIM and Saren, wanted). People put too much stock in his trash-talk about others being affected by the Crucible, despite the actual ending showing that technology wasn't affected. Also worth noting that if you have low EMS, he mentions that the geth will also be destroyed, but on high EMS, he doesn't (even though you don't see them in the slide show at the end). And your tears! Brava! Such an emotional experience and an all-time great playthrough for the archives. Thank you again; this was a privilege!
@FreedomRob8174
@FreedomRob8174 3 ай бұрын
Was that Shepard's last breath or was It Shepherd catching his/her breath. Many of us that played the original when it came out (extended cut) have waited many year for a resolution to this question. When they announced a few years later of a new ME game we were excited as hell thinking we were gonna get that resolution. Nope!! It was Andromeda and were against the game and mad as hell, thus all the controversy you've probably heard about with Bioware and Andromeda. And here we are over 10 years later STILL wondering that question. Then again they tease us with another possible game to come out with Liara picking up a N7 helmet piece. Then they again announce that this new game could potentially be another 5- 8 years away! This makes me sad and mad at the same time, because when the game came out I was 53 at the time, I may never get to see a resolution 😢😢 As far as your question to us about the 3 endings. To me each one has their good points and their bad points. To me thinking really hard about each one over the years, niether one would be a good solution and we are left with picking the lesser of the 3 evils (so to speak). 😊AllI want to know before I leave this earth is, is Shepard alive or not!!!
@miroslawolszewski1410
@miroslawolszewski1410 Ай бұрын
The middle option is the best ending as it’s fair to every one , only one sacrifice 😅😊all game is about balance and finding the way to cooperate together, perfect symbiosis, other endings are limited
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 Жыл бұрын
Great ending Liera. I loved seeing you get so emotionally involved. I chose the Synthesis ending but wasn't really happy with any of them. I didn't want to destroy the Geth and EDI, as I felt they were essential to keeping the peace between synts and organics. The Destroy ending was my second choice but I'm not convinced a future race of synthetics would find a peaceful solution.
@JesusHernandez0919
@JesusHernandez0919 Ай бұрын
I chose this excact ending and I loved it. I don't think the others endings are right bcause the catalyst contradicted himself a lot and destroy is what we wanted to do to the reapers all this time to break the cycle. Also if Shepard is alive like they say everything can be fixed. Edi is part of the ship and she can be fixed and maybe find another body for her. It's very interesting to see if they make another one to see the outcomes. Thank you for making time to share the video with us and I hope u have an amazing day.
@b0r4T1000
@b0r4T1000 Жыл бұрын
I freaking love this trilogy, but these endings of ME3 always piss me off.. Control ending: kinda fascist and, well, Shepard dies. Hell no! Syntesis ending: "cannot be forced but we will allow you to force it upon the galaxy", Shepard also dies and the freaky eyes. Nope! Destroy ending: Reapers die (good, that was the intention of the whole journey), Shepard maybe alive but let me drop this bomb on your lap in the last conversation saying that EDI and the Geth are going to die. Come on...
@nemovidet2111
@nemovidet2111 10 ай бұрын
It is really quite interesting to watch your play and decisions! Thanks for the journey. I think your understanding of the endings is correct---and that none of them is a particularly good choice. There is something wrong with each one buried in assumptions about "synthetics." The Destroy ending assumes an AI can be killed. But if, for instance, Legion is software (remember ME2) then can't you just get a new robot body and put Legion's "mind" into it? The Control ending means that the intelligent AI will have no free will. How will they be self-aware and follow orders? So, Synthesis can be augmentation of physical and mental abilities. But is it sensible to make it a permanent part of your person? Would you replace your hand with something more powerful? Do you want computer capabilities for your mind built into your head? Or would you prefer to just use tools outside your body---like we do now? Just because everyone joined together to fight doesn't define the future for all the species. Cooperation is the challenge, not synthetics.
@HanithSVK
@HanithSVK Жыл бұрын
Ooh, this ending hits even more when you save Geth and resolve Geth-Quarian war peacefully... I mean, you just gave sentience to th e whole race, use them and then kill them all... edit. Oh and btw. those big ships, those are not Death Stars, those are carriers. Because of prohibition on how many dreadnaughts council species can have(treaty of Farixen) for each 5 Turian built dreadnaughts(they have the most cause they are considered peacekeeping force), 3 can be build by any other council race and 1 can be build by any race that has embassy on Citadel... After Humanity became the member race(and openned embassy on Citadel), they had to "obey" these laws. Humanity, being known for it's creativity, created a "new" type of ship. As big as Dreadnaughts, but without the devastating mass accelerator gun(which is basically WMD). This new "series" of ships are called Carriers. They are used to transport dozens of spacecratfs designed to short-mid range combat. When attack starts, the main goal for Carrier is to deploy their crafts and then get the hell out of the line of enemy fire. After the battle is over, small fighters return to Carrier for transport to another battle. Basically humanity invented "swarm" tactic in ME universe. Send many small ships, which are impossible to hit by main weapons(especially on Dreadnaughts), while the damage of single figther may be low, but when 50 of them swarm the enemy ships, sooner or later those ships will break up.
@joltrail3588
@joltrail3588 Жыл бұрын
What a long journey has come to an end :D And being an open ending I think one shouldn't think about good, bad or whatever terms. Being open and with the minimal explanations everyone can argument for one and fit it into their viewpoint, making it the best. Just be comfortable with your decision and respect others (more of a sidenote to the comment section. I read through a lot of the arguments being brought up, which was very interesting. But sometimes there were this belittling tone if counter arguments were brought up). What about I like about such endings is the never ending what if :D Even if a choice is made but one is left in thoughts about the alternative. What comes to my mind is for example Metro 2033 (book and especially the first game). What would have I chosen? Difficult. Every has their pro and cons. I think Synthesis is for me the best solution. Yes, it asks for a sacrifice from oneself which is harder to swallow. Although the details were very vague. Either option forces something. And how is it different to force entire species into extinction? None were asked in either case. What it makes easier for some is the synthetic argument. It is there, they can be rebuilt. But they aren't the same. One wouldn't say "Oh, organic x died. Let's make a new one. Will be like before". And pointing at the synthetic part also sounds like "eh, you know. They weren't really an existance. Not really real." If one intelligence cannot comprehend the other, it can not really be understood and conflicts will arise. Even for the civs surviving in the Destroy ending with former allied Geth. A whole lot weren't happy with that resolution and it all depended on one person in a really big crisis. Well, that's that :D Thank you for taking us with you on your journey :) it was really entertaining
@lethalchocobo1886
@lethalchocobo1886 Жыл бұрын
You did what you were tasked to do. There's no such thing as "always" or inevitable" unlike what that brat is trying to imply. Life always find a way. You can't annihilate or forcibly rewrite the galaxy because of something that might happen. The brat was playing god and you sent him and his minions back to the only place they belong. EDI and the Geth dying in Destroy was the only way for the writers found to make Synthesis, for which they had an obvious hard-on, even remotely appealing. Be sure that 99,99% of the players who went green chose it just because of that and not because they're agreeing with the brat's logic or understanding what the implications are. They'd have obliterated the Reapers without batting an eyelid if not for that downside. You did good, child.
@mb8132
@mb8132 Жыл бұрын
None of the endings are quite satisfying, by design. I find the control ending the least bad for my playthroughs. Personal opinion: Synthesis, as you said is forced and it's basically the ideal reaper victory. It's literally what Sovereign promised to Saren in the first game. It's basically the starchild's main solution but in a "peaceful" form, that's why it's trying to sell it to Shepard as the best one. It has without question the most emotional ending monologue of the 3 though. Destroy seems like the ideal ending at first glance but it's a very human ending if you think about it. It grants short term victory and lets the next generations deal with the consequences. Aside from getting rid of the immediate threat, Shepard chooses chaos. In the ME universe, the problem the starchild presents is real and without the reapers, organic intelligent life in the galaxy would end at the hands of AI. We could argue that Shepard has already proven otherwise by reuniting the Quarians with the Geth, but this choice literally undoes that by eradicating all synthetic life. The story shows us how EDI and Legion become living beings in front of our eyes only for us to kill them and hope it's gonna be ok next time? I can't stomach that. The problem doesn't get resolved, only pushed aside. Control means the starchild basically gets replaced by Shepard. Yes, it's also a problematic ending because of all the god complex arguments but in my opinion it's still the best of the 3. The Starchild can't be the one controlling the reapers because it's just a tool following a simple directive to preserve all life in the galaxy no matter what. The illusive man was too morally bankrupt and would've put his own/humanity's interests above all else. With control, aside from Shepard's life, nothing gets lost. Everything we've been fighting for can continue and it's a peaceful resolution. The player already knows Shepard's morality and intentions for the galaxy and they will have both organic and synthetic perspective on things. Yes, this heavily leans into Shepard being space jesus and the writers at Bioware weren't really being subtle with the name of the protagonist. Congratulations on finishing this amazing trilogy btw! I cried with u all the way. Now you get to enjoy the empty hole inside this game leaves behind for a few days. :) I hope you'll revisit these games in the future, there are so many ways the story can unfold. Also, Andromeda sucks, the gameplay is alright, but the story and characters are cheeks.
@jynx0riZ0r
@jynx0riZ0r 10 ай бұрын
Considering the whole series, to me destroy is the only reasonable choice. The ending still sucks though... :) It's also the only one where Shepard "survives", so idk... always choose red. :D
@Bael_KnightMage
@Bael_KnightMage Жыл бұрын
It should be noted there was originally a different ending planned, but Walters? or Karpyshyn?, the lead writer left. Its clear that there's a bunch of writing quirks at the end here (like your team leaving in the middle of the run to the reaper spire thing, originally the normandy didn't pick you up and your team just vanished), including other logical statements that didn't make much sense - most of which you all pointed out during your conversation with the "god child" (another had all the relays be destroyed - but that results in the destruction of an entire system, which effectively killed everything no matter what choice you picked, but they "fixed" that by having them be disabled?). The trilogy journey was the best though. The ending not so much. Anyway, it was fun watching you the whole time.
@fellwind
@fellwind Жыл бұрын
Bravo for playing it through and experiencing the complete story. Your reaction at the 'breath' was exactly mine.
@Nick_Vendel
@Nick_Vendel Жыл бұрын
47:28 That box was lowered right when you looked away, they were shooting before that. 1:14:13 I do understand Javik. Again, i think making this decision makes sense, it doesn't exactly create a character arc for him, but it makes sense within his character, as he accomplishes what his people wanted, he sees it fit join them and to let Protheans to be left in the past yet remembered in this cycle through him. It's a poetic end, i would say. 1:30:42 What the hell was that? That could've easily pass as one of the Reaper sounds. 1:46:18 Oh... that's the sound you chose to censor things? Hm... i would say it's maybe a bit too loud and screechy. Okay, as much as this is still a justification for "my ending is the best ending", i still want to say something that i thought about during this playthrough. "Destroy" Ending is pushed for the entire game by a lot of different characters, there's really not a lot of people who consider any other options. As military Admiral who was in a lot of conflicts and battles, it makes sense for Anderson to be the representation of such an option. He is the one with "the will to fight" to the end. "Control" Ending is seen in the game as a controversial position, one that most people can't even imagine being realistic. Illusive Man was always the one controlling the events behind the scenes, manipulating things in favor of him and his goals. He wasn't a fighter, but he always someone who hold strong position that attracted others to follow him. He is the one who believed he could control his destiny and lead Humanity into a better future, so it makes sense for him to be the representation of this option. "Synthesis" Ending on the other hand doesn't have a character who would serve as its representation. It's The Third option, and in this sense could be imagined as a position of compromise, something that neither Anderson or Illusive Man would ever be able to achieve, something that they would never agree to, something that required another person. I feel like Shepard is that person, someone who would find "the other way" to deal with the problem, a different perspective, not just "warrior's way", not just "manipulation out of the shadows", but a compromise, a way to ensure the cooperation and mutual understanding. Something that ME3 turned Shepard into, a person who must unite the galaxy, and this ending feels like an extreme of that, similar to how "Destroy" and "Control" are extreme positions that other characters held, it feels appropriate for this idea of "Shepard as diplomat". P.S. I do still like Synthesis of Extended Cut just for its first sentence. It to me feels so powerful. 2:58:28 Here's purely my opinion, but how i interpret those words is him saying "we tried it before, it didn't work, we couldn't force it", but then adding "this time it'll be different", as in this time it wouldn't require force... somehow. Maybe addition of Shepard's "being" to this process allowed for more of a smooth transition, rather than something that would probably damage many people's psyche (especially those who are largely opposed to the concept). But to be fair, i personally do still consider it the drawback of the Synthesis that it is pushed upon everyone, no matter if they want it or not, that is i think should be considered the negative side of the ending. I think every ending has at least some drawback, and i think that's good. Also, the idea of "AI that was created to solve 'Chaos'" is something that is near impossible to do right, as it's basically the same as trying to create "the actual God" or other "beyond human comprehension" characters, so i think Bioware kinda created a weapon of their own destruction with that character, because there's basically 0 ways to justify decisions of such characters in a way that would feel good to the general audience. I do think there's some things that it said that made sense in the context of the games, but majority of it was just vague nonsense with explanation of basically "everything works in mysterious ways", aka non-explanation. They would have to waste a lot of time writing that character (and probably would have to reveal it not 15 minutes before the end-credits) for it to work to some degree, but i would still think that even then it wouldn't be something that majority of the audience would understand or accept. I personally avoid these characters like a plague, as i think most writers lack the skill to make such characters good and make player/viewer/reader relate to such characters.
@MaitreEtherion
@MaitreEtherion Жыл бұрын
Hi, Great run Liera. :) Please do the ME: Andromeda. It's not same as trilogy, but the gameplay is good. The story... it's a new begening, some like it, other nope.
@brianwilson2789
@brianwilson2789 Жыл бұрын
I have played ME 19 times and almost always pick Destroy. Back in the original version, you had to play a multiplayer game to raise your score high enough or you died. No breath of life at the end. First time I played, I didn’t play the multiplayer and died. Oh, EDI is dead, her name was on the memorial wall, top right. Synthesis is a nice ending in certain ways. Control is my least favorite.
@RichSmithify
@RichSmithify Жыл бұрын
If you choose the assimilate ending you might as well have sided with Saren in ME1 and not bothered playing ME2 and ME3. If you choose the control ending you might as well have sided with The Illusive Man in ME2 and not bothered with ME3. There's only one outcome that Sheppard wanted and the galaxy fought so hard for. Sheppard's mission from the get go was to destroy the Reapers and in the end I didn't see a compelling reason to change it.
@Raidermanhc
@Raidermanhc Жыл бұрын
congrats, you got the good ending. that seems like shepard survived. guess we will have to wait for the next ME game to know for sure🤔 (as we dont know what ending they will make Canon) personally i rly hope i get to se my shepard alive again even if we might not be able to play as shepard. And yes the destroy ending was killing all synthetics incl. EDI. and geth, but as it was said, everything that was destroyed could be repaired, so i like to think that even EDI could come back.🥰 i think that maybe your love interest (in your case Garrus) had a feeling you are not dead, hence why they dont put up your name. personally i choose the same ending, my thought mentioned is that everything could be repaired or recreated. PS. it been a blast following you through the emotional and intense moments of this game.
@SoulessStranger
@SoulessStranger Жыл бұрын
Yeah 11 years later since the ME3 came out and I still cannot finish the game without the HappyMassEffectEnding mod to be honest. I just cannot go through all that heartache again. Loved your playthrough though!
@matd675
@matd675 Жыл бұрын
I think people slightly misunderstand what the catalyst is saying. The catalyst claims that synthetics don't just destroy their creators, but will eliminate ALL life. If the Reapers harvest advanced species, they prevent them from developing a synthetic race that is capable of eliminating all life in the galaxy, so they achieve their goal. The AI's job isn't to preserve any particular species, but life itself. Their approach is flawed, but from their perspective they are actually doing what they were designed to do.
@soundofnellody262
@soundofnellody262 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the control ending the best. I dont claim it is the most wholesome. But to me it is the most intersting one. Destroy is just the renegade solution and evidence that organics would not hesitate to sacrify synthetic lifeforms even if there are 2 other ways to solve this situation. Synthesis is too freaky for me. And control is something I thought incredible intersting. But I admit, it was only on my 3. playthrough that I chose that one. My renegade Shep always chooses destroy-ending. The easy way for organics since others pay the price. But paragon Shep takes control or, when I am in freaky mood, the "perfect solution" of synthesis. One time I even rejected all solutions and shot the f.. kid-AI .. it didnt take that well 😅
@azureander5487
@azureander5487 8 ай бұрын
Organics create Synthetics who then destroy Organics, so I created Synthetics to destroy Organics AND Synthetics so Synthetics don't destroy Organics XD
@Yashieyama
@Yashieyama 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, if it werent for my investment in EDIs journey in understanding organics and me finally bringing peace between geth and the quarians, i wouldve picked destroy, if i did i felt all that effort wouldve been a waste of time and all in vein, and it doesnt permanently resolve the conflict between organics and synthetics. So i ended up picking synthesis cause it helps edi in finally having full understanding of things she Previously struggled to figure out about organics and it keeps the geth alive to continue co existing in peace. Funny thing is having full understanding doesnt necessarily mean they wont kill you for any other reason but it does leave everyone technically happy. So synthesis over destroy unless i dont invest in edi and the geth.
@brandonvladovic4194
@brandonvladovic4194 Жыл бұрын
The AI is solving the conflict because the Reapers exterminate all organic and synthetics that are advanced enough to have the conflict of created rising above their creators and leaving the younger civilizations alive. But, If the AI and Reapers didn't get involved the created synthetics would rise up and exterminate all organic life in the galaxy, leaving nothing.
@Darthmufin
@Darthmufin Жыл бұрын
Glad you at least tried the lancer weapon, in my opinion its handy to have unlimited ammo in the final battle haha :p If you didn't get the hint, cortez would have died if you didn't encourage him to take some time off at the citadel, i remember you hesitating when the option to push him to do it was offered lol. 1:13:33 Ah yes, this is the sad part about javik i was worried about :/ If you said no about the memory shard, he would be more positive and mention he wants to participate in Liara's story "journeys with the prothean" afterall ;_; Technically speaking, the reapers DO preserve life, as they were designed to harvest advanced civilizations before they reached a critical point where they would destroy themselves, which happened like clockwork every 50,000 years. You remember Javik mentioning a race who became slaves to their own implants, so it happened in his cycle too. Additionally, the intelligence has been looking for a solution to the conflict and while it used this harvest, it still wished to find a more permanent solution. After thousands of cycles patterns started to arise, and eventually that forced culling created Shepperd who ultimately interfered enough that a new solution was required. Does that make sense? :) Personally i find the destroy option to be the worst, since it kills all geth. And EDI :/
@LudusAurea
@LudusAurea Жыл бұрын
IDC what anyone says, ME3 alone was an amazingly good game and even though the ending isn't what everyone wanted, it's worth the 120 hours playing this trilogy from start to finish over and over when you get to the ending, every time. I already played through twice this year and I may honestly do another one once I get my new setup situated.
@Rocco_Patasnello
@Rocco_Patasnello Жыл бұрын
In my opinion you did the right choise, during all the series leads us to destroy and no sorry guys, I played 11 times and in all i cried, you have played only one time so you cried only one time 😂. Technology can be rebuilt, and edi too. This is an epic game, a little advice play it again, try to make different choices, I swear you will be surprised every time. Byeeee 👍❤️
@michaelkochanewycz972
@michaelkochanewycz972 Жыл бұрын
The Reapers were able to control the cycles because they control the technology used by developing races. In the Control and Synthesis endings you are still using the Reaper technology. By choosing Destroy you are forging your own path free of Reaper control.
@Vedexent_
@Vedexent_ Жыл бұрын
Because everyone is giving up the Reaper tech? Like we don't see repaired Mass Effect relays? Destroy does no such thing. You don't have an option for *new* Reaper tech, but it's not like they ran a *Best Buy* down on the corner and handed out tech to people.
@justaguyfromeurope
@justaguyfromeurope Жыл бұрын
You made the right choice, at the end. The other 2 are just either morally awful (Synthesis) or contradict what we were told in the entire trilogy about organics wanting to control the Reapers (Control). Everybody was in it, willing to give up their lives, to stop the Reapers. Destroy was the way to go, from every pov.
@justaguyfromeurope
@justaguyfromeurope Жыл бұрын
Also, you should react to the ME4 teaser trailer. The other endings I don't feel are worth the effort to react to on the channel. I think you'd be better off just watching them off-camera.
@stynershiner1854
@stynershiner1854 Жыл бұрын
Synthesis is what the entire series leads up to. Shepard brought the Quarians and Geth together. He was the bridge between organics and synthetics.
@justaguyfromeurope
@justaguyfromeurope Жыл бұрын
@@stynershiner1854 "Synthesis is what the entire series leads up to." *Point missed, lvl: over 9000.* Allegedly. 😆
@stynershiner1854
@stynershiner1854 Жыл бұрын
@@justaguyfromeurope Why did Shepard unite the Geth and the Quarians in Rannoch and then suddenly destroy the Geth and all synthetics. How does that make sense at all?
@stynershiner1854
@stynershiner1854 Жыл бұрын
@@justaguyfromeurope Shepard would rather die himself than undo his work by killing the Geth and Synthetics, after all the shit he went through to get them and the quarians working again.
@Rocco_Patasnello
@Rocco_Patasnello Жыл бұрын
Very emotional episod, i am never tired to play mass effect and I hope our shepard can return back in next mass effect. Very very good playthrough. Byeeee 👍
@chemicalyunbalanced4943
@chemicalyunbalanced4943 4 ай бұрын
I loved the way you played the whole game, you reminded me of the emotions and excitement i had for the first time i played MassEffect 😍
@bethbearmacethatguy
@bethbearmacethatguy Жыл бұрын
The difference between AI and the reapers is that the reapers leave younger species alone thus allowing life in the galaxy to continue. They fear that rebelling AI would not stop at their masters and wipe out ALL organic life.
@willfanofmanyii3751
@willfanofmanyii3751 Жыл бұрын
And thus, this is where the War Assets come into play, the amount you have determine how protected the Crucible is when it arrives. The less your fleet is, the more damage is dealt to the Crucible by the Reapers. As a result, the damage affects what options (choices) are functioning... and how accurate they'll be. If the Crucible was damaged enough, the destructive energy released would be... too much and no longer targeted.
@HephaestesVulcan
@HephaestesVulcan Жыл бұрын
That.... Is a very different ending to the one I saw when i played and chose destroy. They must have changed it for the legendary edition... Haven't gotten all the way through it. 😅
@Rocco_Patasnello
@Rocco_Patasnello Жыл бұрын
Sorry, the last time...synthesis is what we seen in mass effect 1, saren was the synthesis between himself organic life and the sovereign. Control is what we seen in mass effect 3, the illusive man tried to control the reapers. I have never wanted to be like saren or the illusive man, so in my opinion destroy is the right choise. Byeeee ❤
@openorigami
@openorigami 10 ай бұрын
Great! How can I make a serious business zoom call in 3 mins with cried out eyes? I guess I will blame the flu...
@leoregulus5842
@leoregulus5842 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully in your next gameplay it will be Mass Effect Andromeda!!!
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