It's not the right effects box for me. Excellent unit just not for me.
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@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
The point of this video is to offer a different opinion than you're likely to hear from reviewers of this pedal. My straight up, honest opinion. I don't do this for money or subs. I don't care about any of that. I'm just being myself and doing what I do, and I'm fully aware that I'm not for everyone.
@sandrews77609 ай бұрын
Yes that’s all cool 👌. I didn’t find it constructive, I’ve sold hundreds of pedals by small boutique effects company that I didn’t gel with. I could probably have made video on each one stating why it wasn’t my rub. But why ?! If your writing to the maker on why V2 might have these ? Improvements for end user. Bonus your helping hologram make a better product.instead of potentially loosing the company sales. You didn’t like the product and posted a pointless unhelpful video, I didn’t like your video do I posted a CD pointless unhelpful review. Isn’t that a case of alls fair.!
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Ok.
@sandrews77609 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereos yup!
@listentotheanimalscreamsha15117 ай бұрын
I don't know were to get started. I have some synths but nothing to get started. I want to layer in effects. the akai are affordable can I play them on that then edit and put beats together in daw? Also can you own a daw instead of monthly subscriptions. I don't want to have to shell out money every month.
@delta-99697 ай бұрын
@@sandrews7760 It's neither pointless nor unhelpful to give an honest review from an actual user who actually bought the product. As a potential buyer, that is the exact information I want. But it's becoming impossible to find on youtube because everybody is in business, or trying to be.
@Godders19 ай бұрын
I preordered from the January 24 run and I’m actually pretty encouraged by this because I want simplicity. Sick of menu diving and endless knob twiddling.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Awesome! It's an outstanding piece of gear. I'm stoked for you. I hear you on the menu diving. Instant control is super satisfying.
@lostsauce04 ай бұрын
Imho the oversimplification is the point. I buy hardware for a specific focus. Otherwise I would just use my PC and do whatever I want, but then I end up endlessly twiddling and lose the creative flow
@Shoegaze889 ай бұрын
You’ve sold me on this as I was worried about over complication. As a time poor person I don’t have the inclination to boldly dive into the inner workings of a pedal. Sounds great and even a great thickly like me can operate it. 😊
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Hey, this is going to enable tons of musicians to express themselves. It's an absolute work of art that's as pretty as it is functional. Thanks for commenting.
@MattDisbrow19 ай бұрын
"I didn't even get a chance to really dive deep with this" ...seconds later... "at least I tried"
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I dug as deep as I needed to know it should be with someone else. Very limited control on each effect. Good for some, not for others.
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers9 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereoswouldn’t they accept it for return? Just curious.
@JackSole179 ай бұрын
They don't do returns:( @@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
@afroham7 ай бұрын
@@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers They do not accept returns
@kaykramer90455 ай бұрын
I guess, in this case it’s simply not the right tool for the job. Especially as the MPC has some onboard FX. I also would not use it for the Maschine , but rather for the Moog Grandmother or other monophonic voices of my eurorack… makes more sense for me
@chrisbunchofflowersmusic9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your honest opinion. I ordered the console and probably will receive it in February.... work since 1 year with the microcosm and being very content. If this is really more simplified.... I will enjoy it as well. Many thanks and regards from Chris Bunch of flowers music
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
It's a banger of a pedal for sure. If you love the microcosm I think you'll love the console. It doesn't hurt that it's probably the sexiest piece of gear I've ever laid eyes on. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@KilledByKamadan8 ай бұрын
Yo videos likes this are actually really helpful, thanks for making it!
@2ATILLTHEYBURYME14 күн бұрын
Your not Yo man damn bro.
@rhabdoX9 ай бұрын
Bump was so fast, even Reverb missed it. I can't see any sale of a Chroma Console. It's a bit lame that you made 2 video's on the CC without playing a single note through it on either. Could have helped some people...
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
There are going to be much more capable people demoing the shit out of this so there's no loss there for anyone. I like videos that don't pander to the manufacturer. I'm pretty tired of sponsored videos where people won't tell you if they don't like it.
@rhabdoX9 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereos Yes there will be others, later, down the track...but actually playing something through the device, that you received early in the piece, perhaps comparing it's sounds with MPC Air plugins, could afford people the opportunity to cancel their order pre delivery, and thereby make someone else happy in getting their device a bit earlier. Do yo see how this works? I mean, one of your video's was you fumbling around with a knife to open the outer box. I would argue that you were pandering to your inner retard.
@csaad37239 ай бұрын
I, like baseboardMatt, am curious why you made this video. Literally not mad, just curious on your motivation (if you care to elaborate - totally your prerogative if you don’t want to). Generally, a good video would go more into depth why It doesn’t work with your setup and maybe you’d try presenting another pedal that does have use on your workflow ( that may be similar to chromas functionality. Like the gesture recording)
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I rarely see videos that aren't sponsored and slanted. I want more of that. Plus I feel I did offer two other options that I like better than the Console. The dp4 and the Air effects on my mpc live. You're right that I didn't go deep though, but that will be covered by countless talented musicians shortly.
@baseboardmatt9 ай бұрын
I have a different theory… you wanted cover so you could flip in on Reverb for $646.01 plus $57 to ship. Profiteering masked as “it just wasn’t my thing”. Be honest, you were never gonna keep it. Tell me I’m wrong.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
@@baseboardmattI was expecting to love it and keep it.
@Kyle-wb7wx9 ай бұрын
I would love to see this as a plug in.
@ry.albert9 ай бұрын
XLN RC-20. you’re welcome
@barnshart96628 ай бұрын
I impulse bought a pedal due to FOMO and then sold it. Amazing video. 😂
@TheFlutecart7 ай бұрын
Keyboard folk tend to use MIDI different than guitar players, and it's in the gear itself and the way we use it from the controllers to the programming. With guitar style midi thinking, we could send a program change to change effects and use midi CC to control expression or even assign an LFO to a parameter. Keyboard people go a different rout, they think of MIDI as keystrokes, triggers and MIDI note information. Perhaps it's a fingers vs feet thing. But I can't recommend the Morningstar line of controllers enough, really full featured control at your toes. Makes all the diff in the world when toying with fancy guitar pedals. Cheers!
@SonicVibe9 ай бұрын
o nice thanks for the update most love the hologram too but i thought this was kinda a pricy fx box sold my mpc not a fan of akai new inmusic buiness model charge for every update but air flavor pro was sick
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Fair enough. Thanks for commenting.
@BrandonAdams10109 ай бұрын
This is an interesting study in psychology. Seems to be the RC-20 of effects pedals. Overhyped and pre-ordered, the pre-order trolls come to whine in anticipation of an effects unit that seems to look cooler than it actually is.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Lots of interesting psychology indeed. Thanks for weighing in.
@bryanlemeilleurtexas9 ай бұрын
I almost returned my EQD Disaster Transport Sr after a few days. Persevered and learned it. Still have it over a decade later.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Fair. I've done that too. This is my second DP/4. I also did that with the elektron analog drive. Thanks for sharing.
@goonfish9 ай бұрын
Seems a ton of folks are *MASSIVELY* underutilizing its MIDI parameter control & automation, as they should open up a lot more control that isn't available within those two-knobs-per. But there's also the whole button-combo parameter mod system. ... but you/we all knew this going in _(unless the GAS fumes were too strong for some folks who didn't think to read the Quick Guide & watch the two promo videos)_, so not sure what you expected. _"Well... I tried"_ is not how I'd put it; but I don't have mine yet so I'm keeping an open mind towards limitations.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I would have kept it except the overlap with other gear was too much for me to justify keeping it. I didn't know there would be so much overlap. I had to try it to learn that it would be redundant in my setup. Am I allowed to do that and share my experience? Of course I am. Now go eat your shitty lasagna.
@MrClarkio7 ай бұрын
I’ve not been massively sold on this pedal from what I’ve heard, but I am puzzled as to how you weren’t expecting it to overlap with the MPC effects. Presumably you knew what the effects were on the CC before buying? With respect, and in order to avoid future disappointment, I think maybe you need to sit on your GAS for a little while before buying stuff.
@goonfish7 ай бұрын
@@MrClarkio ☝️THIS ☝️- and @vintagestereos : I also never said you couldn't do whatever you wanted with your money, and you know this... Just pointing out the irony in your greivances as if you had no other options for properly informing yourself before admittedly impulse-jumping, and then immediately complaining in weak-faith like a teenager. As I'm sure you're aware, Chroma Console *CAN'T be returned due to buyers remorse once it's left the factory.* Which is exactly why I waited until Batch-2 to give myself time to change my mind; now I benefited from over a month of wonderful promo & user-demos to get a more varied sense of its capabilities, read the manual twice in that time, and Chroma Console happily showed up on my doorstep this past Saturday! ...But yeah; ignore the life lesson here, lash out at your bemused viewers & keep huffing them sweet, sweet GAS fumes bud! 🎯
@McEnroe9119 ай бұрын
I'm interested in why you didn't like it.... but you never really told us.
@royalslone12859 ай бұрын
Sold mine too after a few days. Just not a great pedal for guitar at all. Non of the effects other than swell sounded good or got me excited. I had mine calibrated perfectly and all the effects would stay at the same level, but my god any time I introduced any of the gain effects the volume jump was just insane. Probably a great pedal for synth and production but if you are looking for a cool multi effect for just guitar this thing is a complete fail. Every effect sounds super thin. Like ice bouncing off tin. Meh.
@harrymanilow9 ай бұрын
You probably would be better suited with the strymon mobius.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I thought it was cool enough. Liked the sound ok. Just too much overlap for my setup. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@bnz707 ай бұрын
I really like the Chroma Console but my only gripe, as you pointed out, is the massive jump in volume when using OD/Dist/Fuzz. it is annoying.
@baseboardmatt9 ай бұрын
This is the equivalent of a breakup using the excuse “it’s not you, it’s me”. Nobody needed to hear this. Wondering why you felt the need to post? Thx for bumming out everybody that ordered this device. Was hoping to hear some cool sounds. Thx again.
@davedraws769 ай бұрын
Whoa dude. Relax yo-self. This guy doesn't owe you a damn thing. Not a demo. Not a good review of the pedal. It's his pedal. His channel...ya big baby
@dingbatjack12349 ай бұрын
He can post what he wants you goob
@baseboardmatt9 ай бұрын
@@dingbatjack1234goob! Nice one!
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Just like this pedal, I'm not for everyone.
@aikighost9 ай бұрын
You didn't need to comment why did you feel the need to comment? You see this thing called "self expression" goes both ways. 🤣
@Iofflight789 ай бұрын
I think for your application this makes complete sense. If I were looking at this pedal for synths (other than on drums) I'd be feeling similarily. I also play guitar and bass, and I got this for guitar mostly because while I have a lot of delays especially, and a good UA Golden Reverb, I do not have a ton of fuzz and distortion effects that crunch.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Ya it sounds like an ideal pedal for you. Especially for guitar. Synths will be nice through it as well. For many people it will be ideal.
@Iofflight789 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereos You're probably right. When it comes to synth applications I tend to prefer rackable effects units. Eventide, Lexicon, Boss SE series, Ensoniq etc. I've never really loved using pedals on synths.
@AKJ8289 ай бұрын
The moment I saw the mpc I understood everything I needed about this video
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I wonder what that means.
@AKJ8289 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereos users usually decline the use of other gear the moment they use the mpc workflow. As mpc gives a very thorough environment
@happyjessus9 ай бұрын
Yeah it's true that you basically have 2 parameters for each effect. I think the magic comes from messing around with the internal routing. However limited they might be, how did you like the quality/sound of the effects? Most reviewers tend to overdo it so it's hard to tell how they would sound if used subtly.
@hochtief52209 ай бұрын
You’re right. But it‘s up to four parameters plus the Gesture-Function…
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Sound quality was excellent and the workflow is intuitive. They hit a home run all the way around. My expectations were off is all.
@benamad9 ай бұрын
It’s difficult to be subtle. Just increasing a little the amount knob and you can already hear a lot of the effect, specially on the texture module. I write to hologram about that. They can change it by firmware update I think. Otherwise we can decrease the volume effect but not directly it’s secondary function of the amount knob so you cannot compensate in live situation.
@aikighost9 ай бұрын
Cool beans, Im still looking forwards to receiving this soon, did you feel this territory was covered by the MPC live "Flavour Pro" fx suite?
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
The console is gonna be what a lot of musicians have been waiting for and will do amazing things with it. I did find there was a lot of overlap. Maybe not as good sounding in the mpc but already in the box and fully automatable with a shit ton of deeper editing capabilities. Also I happened to rebuy an ensoniq dp4 at the same time as the console so I was able to compare them in real time. That was a game changer. I sold my previous dp4 and missed it a lot. Now with this second one I'm going to use the absolute shit out of it. Mostly for passing tracks or even full songs through recorded into my daw. It has 4 modules, can be used in so many ways and sounds other worldly.
@Madmohawkfilms7 ай бұрын
Check out the Zoia Empress and/or MOD Dwarf
@mortoncombs7 ай бұрын
i sold my microcosm and went with the eventide pitch factor and the space reverb i just didnt get microcosm
@saren65389 ай бұрын
arent you the dude that bought every mpc out there one after the other and then sold everyone of them... i get the impression you just buy stuff to try to keep channel interest then sell
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Ya thats me. I tried them all and found the one I like and shared my experience. Now what?
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Actually, never tried the 4k or 500. No desire, likely never will.
@saren65386 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereos exactly now what ? lol channel gone quiet
@mudsharkbytes9 ай бұрын
Based upon the quality of the Microcosm I immediately ordered this. Something that can be easily modded in a live situation is just the ticket.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I'm stoked for you. I love gear!!!!!!!
@elektrenai2199 ай бұрын
The reverbs are a problem for me on Hologram stuff
@JAAPIOJO9 ай бұрын
Have you tried an eventide H90?
@sandrews77609 ай бұрын
I don’t know why you posted this. I made a crap lasagne yesterday… I didn’t tell anyone … it was my fault the lasagne was crap. Looking forward to January and shipping.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
It's cuz my dad didn't hug me enough.
@asynchronicity5 ай бұрын
Do you have a pasta channel….?
@sandrews77605 ай бұрын
@@asynchronicity clearly the lasagne was shit! Why would I discuss it on the internet…
@asynchronicity5 ай бұрын
@@sandrews7760 So you don’t have a pasta channel? I feel cheated!
@sandrews77605 ай бұрын
@@asynchronicity I don’t have a pasta channel … you don’t have a point ! My point was don’t make poorly reasoned and negative videos that negatively effect small builders in our industry .. for clicks. Any one can troll 👿 which is what that video was. And what my comment was in reply As an aside .. had the chroma for a few months now .. legendary pedal. Sorry the maker of the original video didn’t get it and you wasted your time commenting on my comment. Forward ever backward never my pasta loving friend
@Davide-cs6hy9 ай бұрын
I'll buy it off of you If you don't have a buyer yet
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
Sold already. The first sale of a Chroma Console on Reverb.
@baseboardmatt9 ай бұрын
@@vintagestereosthat’s not even true. Two sold before yours.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I stand corrected.
@Domn8799 ай бұрын
I think you’re in the minority.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
That's usually where I'm most comfortable.
@Domn8799 ай бұрын
It’s a useful POV. I got and sold a Force because I couldn’t gel with the Air effects as a guitarist. We all like our cups of tea a bit different.
@Epicfuzz9 ай бұрын
lol it’s a great box. The effects on the MPC are basic at best.
@vintagestereos9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't describe the air effects as basic. Have you tried them? They blew my head clean off.