I sold my Odin 2 Mini for THIS! (Retroid Pocket 5)

[@tuapple1138]

For me: You are the best person to talk about the device.

[@AlecLoiselle]

Have you spoken to him?

[@RueLangston]

Already bought the Odin 2 mini and loving it but this is a beautiful device!!!

[@EduFirenze]

The vita design is what sells it for me

[@GhostLinx]

​@EduFirenze plus that design is actually very ergonomic

[@Deadcell91]

and the power of Odin 2 💪🏼

[@GhostLinx]

@@Deadcell91 power that is required for games like GTA 5 ,Zelda TOTK,MGS5, FALLOUT 4(60FPS) WITCHER 3 ext...

[@jjthehoser762]

Canada Post is really crushing my dreams here too.

[@businessmike2371]

I feel you on this one

[@KJBChristian]

Ended up getting RP mini this week and dont regret it. I am in love with it and the size doesnt bother me. Either route I'm sure you'll be happy

[@onmywayto974]

Nice! I really want the Odin 2 Mini as well, but it's too expensive for me. This product seems like a good balance.

[@KJBChristian]

@@onmywayto974 Sorry i meant retroid pocket mini. Should have specified

[@azenyr]

OLED consumes less power when in low brightness compared to IPS, but consomes A LOT MORE power when at max brightness than an IPS at the same nits. Your battery tests were made with 100% brightness which is nice, we can be sure that that was indeed the worst case scenario.

[@nintendork07]

would much rather see a battery test like most use 50% brightness (or calibrated to a certain number like 250 nits), 50% audio, wifi/bluetooth on. since that's the most common use case indoors

[@brandongabel]

Heck yeah, glad to hear they properly addressed the issues with the OS. Makes me feel good about my decision to upgrade from the RP4P, similar to when I upgraded from the LCD Steam Deck to the OLED when it came out. Thanks for the real and straightforward review!

[@adams4244]

I''m looking forward to mine. I feel like this the culmination of what I've been looking for for about 3 years - about $200, great screen that is not tiny, powerful enough to adequately run PS2/GC, nice battery life, video out. My RG556 got close but frustratingly limited - I bought that at launch for full price.

[@EduFirenze]

It's crazy to think they release so many handhelds we have channels dedicated to them

[@8bitchiptune420]

Where?

[@coxxycabee]

Huh?

[@sendoh873]

Wow, haven't watched a single second of the video yet but I'm shocked by the title that Joey sold his Odin 2 Mini. I find Joey to be one of the most honest and transparent reviewers in this space so this is a bit surprising as he has been pretty critical about Retroid products in the past (which I appreciate). I originally was going to save up for the Odin 2 Mini because the RP Mini was disappointing for me when it came out (mainly cuz the 3.7 inch screen) but when the RP5 came out, I was excited until it said only 6GB Ram & Android 10 but thankfully they updated that. So then I decided to take a gamble by getting the GC RP5 after the 1st 5 mins of pre-sale launch. Judging by your RP5 livestream and from the title, I'm happy I made the choice of sticking with the RP5. But now, I'm just hoping that it doesn't have any software problems or hardware issues by the time it gets to me, and hopefully in one piece (and the right color). Gonna be my first and last Retroid handheld I'll ever purchase

[@SaikoSoda]

I'll be back in 5 years to make sure you kept your word on not purchasing another Retroid

[@sendoh873]

@SaikoSoda haha, ok 👍

[@blakeandcamp]

Great video! Totally agree about the RP5 being a great companion handheld to a larger/more powerful device. I have an OLED Deck already and I bought a RP5 for exactly that reason. I wanted a more portable handheld that retains a lot of the same emulation power. Much more reasonable price compared to any of the Odin 2s as well, and I don't need Odin 2's extra power for Switch because I can just use my Switch for those games anyways.

[@FinalNightmare1992]

Does your switch have CFW?

[@robavila8888]

Never change. I love your bluntness. Great review.

[@petervladyevich8535]

Hi Joey, thanks so much for this video. I really appreciate your comparisons regarding all the internal differences. See you soon

[@LynchOnSports]

Great breakdown Joey. Thanks for all the work you do

[@johnsducks9816]

I was very close to ordering an odin 2 mini when they announced this and I'm very very glad I didn't

[@BeeLow0519]

Your showcases helped a lot along with this video. I want to see the performance of Jak2 and 3 on the Odin portal before deciding on this RP5

[@nomeapetecepensar]

Most honest review of all. Thanks for the review.

[@Spongegoose]

What I struggle with is pocketability. The device fits the bill more than my Odin 2 Mini, but the length makes the portability harder.

[@Fallen825]

A handheld with premium features at a relatively affordable price point was unthinkable even one year back we have reached a point that a devices have become so good that makes me hard to imagine what can be improved upon for next releases (besides the CPU chip) to the point this device is almost unrecognizable from last generation, for me this is EASILY the handheld of year

[@nataliek3384]

make a video testing vita3k emulation

[@NashDTV]

He did do a video where he tested persona 4 golden, but that was all.

[@luvinfunvan]

I'm hoping it will be possible to augment the grip to improve stick ergonomics. It will be a bit trickier given the curves but I'll give it a shot.

[@Drakengod691]

I literally just bought the GC version a week ago and it's replacing my odin 2 completely. Mostly because I may get a handheld pc in the future. I really just want the portability and upscale psp, ps2, and gc. I have a switch so don't need that.

[@RetroGamerDesigns]

💜the GC version

[@vr6prodigy]

I just bought one of these. I'm really excited to get it. Just waiting.

[@LettuceJUMP]

Thank you for comparing to 6H and 556, those were the other two I was considering. Upgrading from TrimUI Smart Pro. Wanted something a little more powerful without sacrificing screen size. Still torn though.

[@kelesar]

I'm struggling with waiting for my retroid pocket 5 to ship or canceling it and backing the Odin portal. The retro pocket is probably all I need to go with my steam deck, but I do wish it was a little larger and that the sticks and d-pads were swapped.

[@fufu5068]

Upgraded from RG35XXH. Glad I waited a bit and skip RP4 Pro coz I want that OLED. Hopefully it'll ship soon.

[@JsmashTech]

You forgot to compare the ergonomics for the devices in ur comparisons. because that's another plus and a lot of people care about that. while the stick top might be better for a lot of stick focused content, but your hands will still cramp without proper ergonomics or grips included.

[@WillC1020]

So in this video, it was mentioned about the RP5 being more portable than the Odin 2, which is true. However, I dont see anyone storing an RP5 in their pockets considering its size and so either device would require some sort of case or a bag to store when out and about. I may try the RP Mini, a 3.5 inch RG35XXSP device didnt bother my eyes, so with a 3.7 inch i dont see this being a concern.

[@Vincent-hd7lc]

Is retroid using the same brand of OLED screen as anbernic RG556? Because the anbernic Rg556 I bought and tons of dead pixels, even the replacement unit got more dead pixels.

[@rrahll]

thank you for review mate! liked and subscribed!

[@coxxycabee]

I was looking for a new handheld at just the right time. Was heavily considering the RG Cube, but decided the usb-c out would disappoint me. I had set my eye on the Odin Mini, even though it's size looked a bit bigger than I'd like. I placed a bet on a 2nd hand one, but was outbid. Then the RP Mini was announced and then the RP 5. I knew instantly which one I wanted. I preordered on day one the RP MIni. I know not everyone else is into these small devices and I hope everyone else enjoys what they order, but for me, the Mini is close to perfect. Joey, I love your analysis on d-pad placement. I 100% agree. I am usually a retro 2d gamer who mostly uses the d-pad. When I use a game controller, I prefer symmetrical d-pad on top placement. When it comes to handheld however, (even though the Mini is slightly in bound as you describe) I think stick on top is better. Great assessment!

[@mattdavis9601]

I'd been seriously considering the Mini; but, the 5 isn't that much bigger physically nor is it that much more expensive, and it gives me all of that beautiful widescreen PS2 goodness. I'm still waffling between the P5 and the Odin2 series. The O2M is approximately the same size as the 5 and doesn't have quite as good of a screen; but, has a lot more power for future proofing. Joey said the Retroid 5's big advantage over the Anbernics is that people who buy this year's Anbernic Androids will get next year's Anbernic Androids too because of the inevitable performance uplift of the redesign. At that point they'll have spent more than if they'd just gotten the high performance Retroid in the first place. Vime's Boots Theory from "Discworld" in action, for all you literary types reading this comment. Isn't the O2M and regular O2 just the turbo version of that dynamic? Then again; it's not like retro games are getting harder to run. Outside of one specific Play Store game (Grid: Legends) everything on the Play Store and in emulation that I care about can be done, with a bit more tweaking perhaps, on the SD865. I don't necessarily need an 8G2. But, I'd be lying if I said that I didn't want an 8G2. It's like slamming your fist on a big red button labeled "EASY MODE". Is that worth an extra $100 and losing the AMOLED screen? Joey doesn't think so and I trust Joey to give me the straight and unvarnished truth. That's why I'm going to buy... The Powkiddy RGB20 Pro! ;-D (This is a joke. I'd rather lose 69 straight games of TicTacToe to myself while locked in a cold, insufficiently lit room than buy a Powkiddy.)

[@jonathanaguilar710]

Ergos are better in rp5 but it's slightly bigger than O2 mini and i play good amount of switch so i didn't want to compromise on performance. Maybe when the rp6 comes out with better processor then I'll consider.

[@TrekCycling]

Same. I think it’s pretty magical to be able to play Super Mario Wonder and Fire Emblem - Radiant Dawn on the same device. I don’t want to give that up.

[@codylester9081]

I was going to get a RP5 because at MSRP I felt like it was the better deal. But when I could get the mini with AliExpress coupons for around $80 less it felt harder to justify the jump

[@TheExFatal]

Wait, 128gb limitations? I can't put an SD card inside?

[@glazedbelmont]

You can

[@maxiynacho]

Thank you Joey! Personally I'm really liking the RP5 Mini. I had the Odin 2 Mini before and I think that's the absolute best device I've ever tried, but I ended up selling it and now I use the steam deck oled at home and the rp5 mini on the go. Great match

[@washuai]

Is the RP mini more pocketable than the Odin 2 mini? Which do you think is more durable? Ergo?

[@maxiynacho]

@ yes, it’s 20% smaller. Both are quite ergonomic, maybe o2m just a bit more.

[@NicolasKeven]

In my view this is the perfect shape of a console, maybe the only thing it can have is a better chipset, but I say about the buttons, console builds, shape, looks like an Ayaneo and it's so elegant, and for 210 dollars, it's great.

[@nimnone]

I’m unregretting getting this! I’ve ordered the black model 10th of November. Still not shipped..

[@lilrockstarrs]

Great video as always Joey! I picked up an RG556 for $75 the other day on the marketplace, will hold me down until the Odin 2 Portal comes out. Thanks for all you do look forward to that review as well!

[@sharktooth30yt48]

I’ve been stuck choosing between the O2M and RP5 for the whole week and I’m losing my mind

[@franciscobutte]

I knew it. The RP5 is sooo good! Waiting for it to arrive so it can be my Steam Deck OLED companion.

[@const3llations_370]

its not really. I dk why everyone is so excited about a device with a 5 year old processor

[@franciscobutte]

@@const3llations_370 Because they don't care about playing Switch on it.

[@SolidZone26]

​@@const3llations_370 Idk why would you pay for an android device the same cost of a Steam Deck OLED when the latter can do it better.

[@christophergarcia6064]

Because the age of the processor doesn't matter if it can do what people want it to do. There are many videos out there showing it can do what people want it to do.

[@titzmageex]

Looking for an emulator device. Which in your opinion is the absolute best? No compromises.

[@ninjason57]

Joey, I'm glad you said something about the downsides to the left analog stick position. So far you are the only reviewer I have seen bring it up. It helped solidify why I will not be purchasing this handheld.

[@retroCubeGG]

I wish they had a left joystick on top version at least, that would have sold the device to me. For now ill be fine using my phone with a gamesir g8

[@RetroGamerDesigns]

Yeah I’m currently using my phone with the bsp-d8 - while I save up for a new handheld.

[@bakedchickpea1416]

My gf says you and I have the most similar views on handhelds compared to the others (like Russ). Thought that was funny.

[@jrdoughty13]

Ok, you sold me on not upgrading to an Odin. I legit was wondering if I should keep my preorder, especially with the portal coming.

[@miguelmanify]

great video bro, nobody can talk whith the clarity of u, i wait my Rp5, have all u want, power,screen and most important portability, only you want its stay in your job or a fligth, take ur console and game some quicky game or watch a movie because its a android sistem, that´s bigs consoles doesn´t have sense, for that use a traditional have a console.

[@leehamlet5900]

Good honest take. Odin 2 is still better for me, ergonomics are more important than the screen.

[@wopino]

I'm going to sell my Odin 2 Pro for the Odin 2 Portal base

[@Lisa313shoe]

Great video 😊thank you.

[@aprilcummings1416]

How about between the RP5 and the PiMax Portal (same chipset, Portal can now be had at $199 at NewEgg)?

[@LuisCassih]

I still like the vita design of the Odin 2 Mini plus is more powerful. But the price point of this RP5 is amazing!

[@rrahll]

yes I am not a fan of VITA because I have not had it But compared to others VITA is still the best

[@TheRootko]

And here I'm thinking about buying an Odin mini, because the RP5 shoulder and face buttons click like crazy 😂

[@kev1310]

I have it and such a goated device

[@Zenmaster911]

They do. Total dealbreaker.

[@yangkuma]

The odin 2 mini shoulder buttons have a click as well...

[@sendoh873]

If you can afford it, yeah, go for it. I was originally going to save up for an Odin Mini but I really wanted the white colorway and it really sucks that it is only offered with the pro model. And I don't usually by all-white devices but I wanted it, until the RP5 was revealed and the specs were updated. Didn't want to spend $400+ for the Mini even though it's way more powerful and premium. The power just isn't necessary for my use case. Yeah, the RP5 buttons are a bit more audible than my liking from what I can tell watching by Joey and other reviewers but I can live with it. The Anbernic SP buttons higher audibility didn't bother me so I highly doubt the RP5 buttons will bother me. As long as they aren't obnoxiously loud like blue mechanical switches on a keyboard, I'm good

[@TheRootko]

@@yangkuma indeed, just way less noticable, at least from the direct comparison from one of the Joey's videos. The best thing would be if retroid provided a set of interchangeable switches for buttons and bumpers 😂

[@tonyrosario1940]

Hey Joey, does RP5 dock at 1080p well? 🍻 Do you use the retroid dock or something else?

[@mark6302]

that's a pretty sweet device

[@sendoh873]

I wonder if my smaller hands will help a little bit against potential cramping with the sticks not being as in-set as they should be for optimal use...

[@Watamel0n]

Of course it will help, but tbh the ps vita has worse ergonomics and the sticks are placed on the same spot. Nobody had problems with it, including me. The slider on the 3ds and many more examples, but nobody complained about cramping hands :D

[@sendoh873]

@@Watamel0n That's fair. I have a Vita and personally, I don't have a problem with the ergonomics although it is definitely more comfortable with a grip. I like the Vita ergonomics more than the new edition 3DS XL ergonomics

[@Jpcorallo2]

@joey considering your extensive use, I have a question. What was your experience with rumble on the RP5? I feel like I can barely feel it and in some instances not at all. Like streaming PS5 and other emulators… what can I do to adjust this?

[@garryw1974]

I think i would rather get the odin portal,ideally I really want the ayaneo evo as first choice but who knows how long that will take before its finally released so I'll get a portal as next best.

[@ed-fruty]

Could somebody explain, why RP5 has better battery life against Odin 2 Mini when SD Gen 2 is much more energy efficient and screen size is smaller (battery capacity is the same)... Is the main reason in OLED vs Mini LED screen? If we talk about same games with the same scale factor.

[@Ap616]

It's more energy efficient 'given its power level'. And the 8G2 is quite a bit more powerful than the 865, so it's gotta generate heat & dissipate it somewhere if you are utilizing for performance or upscaling. Also, the O2M & RP5 are fairly similar in size. RP5 is actually a little bigger footprint, and it's more in between O2M & Switch Lite in size. So either the thermal design(like ventilation/heatsink/fan) is worse for it than the RP5 or it's limited by physics for heat dissipation, or both. Chip for chip, the 865 is actually a demonstrably more stable percentage during a 3D Mark Wild Life Extreme Stress Test benchmark when pushing the device for 20 minutes iirc. And even more with a nice active fan & heatsink. Then on top of that you have an OLED display which should be more battery efficient at the same Resolution & Hz, & of a similar size. I don't know if that very bright MiniLED in the O2M also eats battery over a regular IPS, let alone an OLED.

[@ed-fruty]

@Ap616 , sure, it makes sense if we talk in performance context, but I was asking about the same (not mega powerful) task. Let's take as an example some neutral ps1/dc game. It will utilise for example 35% CPU for 865 and let it be 15% for Gen 2 when the scale factor is the same. And according to the chip energy efficiency it has to use less power on Odin2 Mini or where I've been mistaken?

[@matrioshkabrainn]

I still feel the RP5 is too big to whip out anywhere or use as an EDC device

[@glight0]

That was my issue with Odin 1 Lite (although that’s slightly bigger 6” screen). Too cumbersome to use on a break or on lunch at work. Upgraded to an Odin 2 Mini and it’s much more suited to the task without sacrificing too much comfort / screen size. I prefer the stick top and inset dpad / right stick as well. The only drawback is the price is significantly more than rp5. $350-$400 is not a small amount but the sd8g2 does allow for more switch games (and no need for settings tweaks in GC or PS2). If I had to buy again I would still go O2M. I know I’m going to use it more with the better size.

[@NashDTV]

I feel like I’m going to wait until the Odin 2 Portal comes out and see how it compares to this one, Most likely be picking up the RP5 but I gotta know.

[@chriss.4790]

I wonder if we can mod the shoulder buttons to be less loud

[@xcruz7846]

you can probably do a tape mod

[@sendoh873]

Probably disassembling it and then doing a tape mod should do the trick although I don't really want to do that

[@SicketMog]

I have the Odin 2 Max and RP4P, recently got BOTH for a VERY good price, but the screen on the 5 looks so sexy. I wanted to emulate Switch but seems emulation itself is the bottleneck rn not the power of the devices so more likely to get a modded Switch and stick with the two I have for a while. Damn if the screen on this doesn't look great though; if I can snag one used in time for the RP7 or something then maybe... 😝 Edit: ah D-pad the same. I'm finding it a bit small just starting out on the 4. 7:10 game?

[@1996Huguinho]

OK, I need to stop watching these banger videos. Can't wait for mine to ship; according to their Twitter page, 16-bit and white models start shipping next week.

[@1bz2002]

RP5 is £265..for another £125 you can get the Rog Ally...I would pay the little extra!

[@cianbrady1557]

Is this a good handheld for playing twilight princess hd? Will I get through the entire game?

[@Agent_Banana11]

Odin 2 is the 🐐 Odin 2 mini missed the mark RP5 knocked it out of the park

[@5555dhoni]

yeah, they should using oled for odin 2 mini

[@WhiskeyFiend]

So hyped for Odin 2 Portal

[@abdelazizeltayeb]

for the price point of that odin 2 you can literally get a fairly used rog ally x / steam deck and just go crazy from there the retroid 5 took a niche that we needed after hitting that ps2 emulation nonetheless this was a great video man

[@alekjwrgnwekfgn]

You can use a micro SD for extra game storage right? why just internal storage?

[@ninmarioscc]

It’ll be great if the Dpad and the joystick was modular and user interchangeable

[@srgarathnor]

what kind of device would you sell your mother for? ;)

[@alibi_streamhighlights736]

wish the RP5 would be abit beefier for a small upprice.

[@simonepez9879]

I wanted to buy the rp5, but then I've seen the odin 2 portal and I gotta say, even with double the price, I think it's gonna be worth

[@elemileTLDR]

I understand the RP5 charm, but... didn't Odin 2 emulate BotW, TotK and so many more Switch games pefectly?

[@jtru3640]

Thanks for the videos. If you can cover Batocera I would be happy

[@BEANSFM]

how do the speakers compare to Logitech G cloud ?

[@Longwittyusername]

The RP5 has a red screen tint when lowering the screen brightness, compared to the RP4's blue screen tint. This causes reds to be blown out on high brightness settings and (imo) makes the screens color look worse than some LCDs on red heavy games. Is there any way to modify the screens color gamut or are we stuck with over saturated reds or being forced to play on max brightness?

[@Patrick-bn5rp]

Android should have the option to adjust the saturation in the settings. The rp4 can do that, anyways.

[@DerekGonsoulin]

Sighs.. fine... I'll check my order status again.

[@SlowpokeReads]

I always wonder if these discussions about portability are just geared towards men cause as a woman, I have a purse (and I feel like most carry purses because the world hates us and doesnt give us pockets) Size isn't really an issue unless its something egregiously large lol (Steam Deck, ROG Ally, basically any handheld PC) the only reason I don't like taking my switch around is because the design is so shit that joycons pop off way too easily.

[@leelee7334]

Never really liked the Odin 2 Mini except it looked good.

[@shane-porter]

Lovely screen, quality feel. Other than that left stick. Deal breaker for me.

[@kenzakiazuma6136]

for me is just the PRICE is making me think twice for RP5. I love to get back to the old PS2 game while on the go.

[@stormk-1130]

Wich handheld is the best for psp?

[@JordiLA]

Waiting for my white RP5 .. When they decide to send me it... of course.. 😓

[@greyghostinfinite]

I want this console so bad. Then I remember that the phone I'm typing this on has a Snapdragon 865 and I get sad 😢

[@DrGreenThumbNZL]

At least you named the chipset , this guy couldn't even do that 😂

[@DanielLight-cc3jb]

​@@DrGreenThumbNZLhe literally says it 25 seconds in you absolute buffoon

[@Cutface141]

I love my 4 pro. The need a slightly bigger device. Need a bigger screen.

[@SkullSlugger69]

Still didnt explain why he chose the RP5 over Odin 2...? And how is the RP5 an upgrade..?

[@SkullSlugger69]

And Odin Portal is a 7 inch OLED much more powerful than RP5, probably twice as expensive..

[@wizzgamer]

Not a fan of the software on the retroid pocket 5 it's the only thing that puts me off.

[@davidbryant02]

You can load Linux onto it

[@wizzgamer]

@@davidbryant02 Might have to do that then.

[@FairyPrincess42]

How can I make my buttons louder?

[@bigstv15]

Why would you sell the more powerful system for the weaker one?

[@toukirhossain1683]

You showcased every system but didn't psp even though it is a perfect psp handheld 😂

[@ROBALHC]

Used poco f3 with snap 870 and 6.7 Samsung AMOLED screen cost $50 pair it with gamesir galileo g8 and you have pretty much better experience for less.

[@just_delightful]

Does it wake from sleep with controller?

[@sivapetit1]

If RP5 can play all switch games and vita games Then would be great to buy Becoz it has sd865 insane to buy in 2024

[@Laternater]

I went with the SNES coloured one.

[@alexlieder7535]

Ich wollte mein Odin 2 verkaufen ,aber mein Retroid 5 ist seit 16.10. irgendwo ,Retroid antwortet nicht . Ich habe,blöderweise ,in weis bestellt ...🤔

[@vrg3250]

Does it stream Netflix etc?

[@007LuckyCharms]

What game or anime was playing from 7:00 to 7:28?

[@christophergarcia6064]

Tales of the Abyss

[@Smood47]

8:16 Isnt that a ds game not wiiu ?

[@animeprofilepicture9639]

No that games on the wii u

[@JiggityJiggity]

5:43 that had to come from someone from r/SBCGaming