I Solved The FNAF Movie’s BIGGEST Mystery

[@MRPandoraHartDR]

I really like the fact both you and MatPat are going down the Mike's dad might be Henry route because I'll be honest, that thought never crossed my mind during the film, because I think not having the family being in an obvious Pizzeria setting when Garret was kidnapped, threw me. Plus when I first saw the trailer with the children manifesting in the woods, I made the connection between the pile of dirt in the forest in Midnight Motorist being their gravesite.

[@_.z33._]

that was my theory as well as soon as i got out of the movie! because seriously, how would steve have actually known all of the kids’ names and been so shocked to see the last name schmidt?? not to mention the kidnapping which was eerily reminiscent of charlie’s death in the games

[@MRPandoraHartDR]

@@_.z33._ The book has her kidnapped but in the Puppet mini game Charlie is killed directly outside the pizzeria. Hence why I didn't equate Garett with Charlie so by extension this family swoparound, but with the Crying Child because of Mike. OH but we also see The Puppet crawling up to Charlie's body...So have we missed that the Puppet was already possessed!!!

[@loganthewolfbear2671]

​@MRPandoraHartDR it wasn't already possessed it was just its ai trying to save the child, child was already dead, puppet got damaged because of the rain and collapsed over charlies body

[@AK_804]

@@MRPandoraHartDR??? You don’t know fnaf lore

[@CaiJabari]

This has been a passing theory in the community for a while. Ever since Scott started leaning hard into the "stepdad" lore in the books, many people started to speculate if Mike wasn't William's real son. This is also touched on in Sister Location's cutscenes when Vlad the Vampire states, "The baby isn't mine." Some people took this to mean that Circus Baby/Elizabeth wasn't Williams Afton's creation. She was, after all, originally Henry's creation. However, some others, myself included, attributed these associations to Mike and William's relationship.

[@RasmusSorensenDK]

Thank god you pointed out that the head in the drawing was glued on. Could easily see that becoming a missed detail. I noticed it when I saw it in theaters and was waiting for someone to theorize about it

[@picky9687]

Same :]

[@hm-tn3uq]

Same here!

[@lilyflare2]

Maybe it has to be glued on cause it was bitten off.

[@patryhy1475]

​@@lilyflare2how the hell does anyone happen to bite off piece of a drawing, especially in the middle of it?

[@pinkdolphin8188]

@@patryhy1475 My guess is they mean it's a call back to head getting bit off for the spirit of golden freddy like with crying child?

[@5MadMovieMakers]

MatPat could be Henry Emily, ever think about that

[@themaskedshark]

Real

[@willamafton-fe5xj]

mapat name in the movie is ness

[@EndeWasHere]

Nah, matpat is Sans cause his nametag is Ness wich means Undertale and Fnaf are related and i might just have unintentionally guessed a future games collab idk

[@canadiesmen]

@@EndeWasHerewhat

[@TheLore_Maker]

@@canadiesmenexactly

[@meganimanic]

Really glad you got to making a movie theory. If the creative team behind the movies deem it worthy to create a series, I'm really hoping the stories and themes get fleshed out better since there's more than one person working on them now.

[@Joseph-oo7pp]

It’s the biggest horror movie of the year. There is no way they’re not taking the paycheck for more movies lol. (I did love the movie, if this comment sounds too cynical)

[@zerosuitdva]

I agree. We’re definitely getting two more movies. I really loved the film as a long-time fan. It was phenomenal.

[@vandalix8103]

Its confirmed its gonna be a trilogy

[@EXTRA33mean]

@@vandalix8103they’ve signed cast members on for a trilogy but whether or not it will happen is up to the higher ups so it’s not 100% curtain it will ultimately happen

[@TheRealKingsofFools]

There have been leaks from the same leaker that got us early looks into the first movie saying that the second movie script is being examined, edited, and rewritten.

[@TheSuperSnake313]

FNAF is such a fascinating series. The way Scott has been able to restart the story multiple times, tweaking it as he learns, in theory this new movie storyline should be his most thought out, consistent story. I'm so excited to see where this goes and what he does to keep it fresh while acknowledging what got us to this point

[@adammorin2955]

I have a theory that scott might or might not try to combine all three into one big story or have it a multiverse or something. Some clues are the ruin dlc and security breach almost following the books. The movie and the second movie losely based on the games which in turn could have all three eventually trying to become one big story

[@justice8718]

William's children in the movie are the Puppet and GF. Vanessa is a robot.

[@RognvaIdur]

can't wait to watch matpats 1 hour 30 minute breakdown of this 8 minute 30 second movie theory

[@lollylord64]

FACTS

[@joeldouglasvargas4166]

you love it tho

[@ILikeCheeserz]

Lol he pauses it every five seconds to say something I love/hate it

[@Dathas1487]

Spotting that cutout of the head on the drawing is TOPS mate well played. This is a stellar theory video, and adds a lot of fun discussion points to the table while we wait for any kind of teaser for the second movie. Thanks for posting!

[@tau-5794]

The original head may have been Garrett, but then at some point William became unable to control Fredbear, either due to Cassidy taking over after being killed and stuffed, or Garrett's spirit somehow migrating into the puppet. It's also possible that the puppet used to be the fifth animatronic, before maybe getting damaged or shut away, and then Afton just tacked over a new face for his most recent kill, as a replacement.

[@playbles]

I was so certain on Garrett being the movie-verse's Puppet until you pointed out the head detail on the drawing! You always manage to notice stuff I never hear anyone else bring up :0 Great video as always! Though, I believe I heard Aunt Jane didn't actually die and was actually unconscious in that scene. It would be harder for Mike to explain why the person trying to take his sister away was dead in their living room...

[@hedwigon6951]

On the other hand, does Golden Freddy really care? If everything had gone according to plan (for them), Mike would have been out of the picture for (supposedly) killing Aunt Jane, Abby would have gotten springlocked, and they could live happily ever after. In addition, G.F could probably see that Abby didn't really like Aunt Jane, and he could have taken matters into his own hands; in addition, the "Aunt Jane fell asleep" line kinda implies she died.

[@yngkdnited4620]

What about the kid in the brown shirt that appeared to Abby with Golden Freddy?

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

There is supposedly a deleted scene where Golden Freddy head jumpscared Aunt Jane and she fainted from fear.

[@jc_art_]

​@@yngkdnited4620cassidy

[@purpleX-q]

Except that the pic with the head glued on is Cassidy, the boy with blonde hair. Not Garret😭

[@marsb0t]

while I agree that the Ella doll is probably just an easter egg and not meant to tie into the plot at large, I also think this easter egg can be used for lore. Ella from TSE, for all intents and purposes, is essentially an “earlier” baby. A precursor to Baby. By showing a version of a “precursor” to Baby that is a third unexplained springlock suit, Scott could be hinting that the third unexplained springlock suit from the games no one has been able to figure out may have been a “precursor” to or “earlier version” of Baby. Would explain why it came from Circus Baby’s.

[@user-nm1lx8qb3u]

OMG! That's GENIUS!🤩

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

It isnt baby

[@tau-5794]

Reread the comment, it's a precursor to or an early version of Baby, not Baby herself.

[@grandadmiral3339]

Or further confirmation that baby itself was a spring lock suit

[@marsb0t]

@@SubZero-hs9xc yeah that’s why i said ella is an “earlier version” of baby. Because she was. She went on to be the inspiration for the others, which eventually lead to Baby. She isn’t literally Baby, but she’s solely responsible for Baby’s creation.

[@EmerxldPlayz]

Hey John. Great theory! I did notice something weird while watching the movie and it’s that every time someone enters the building, the power turns on by itself. For a really clear example, look at the scene right when the robbers enter the building. The literal security monitors turn on by itself. They make it very clear throughout the movie for some reason and I can’t figure out why. It could just be showing that the animatronics have control of the building, but they’re very consistent with it. Just a thing I thought I’d throw out. Great video again!

[@jc_art_]

Golden freddy in the games is a spirit, and does not actually physically show up in your office. The spirit of golden freddy in the games can make you see things that arent there, but also can interact with things from the real world, classic ghost style. In the movie, many objects seemingly move on their own, doors lock, boxes fall over, when nothing could have been there to do so. Its likely that golden freddy is the one doing so, as everyone else is accounted for. Also electriconics turning on in the presence of a ghost is also just classic ghost stuff. In the scene where golden freddy takes abby to the restaurant, the animatronic disappears in the blink of an eye, and as abby walks through the entrance, the lights flicker on, symbolizing that the spirit did actually follow her inside and is still behind her, and its presence turns on the lights.

[@EmerxldPlayz]

@@jc_art_ I do like this explanation, I just thought it was an interesting detail that was worth talkin about

[@IcarusHollow]

that detail where the drawing clearly being pasted over by someone is probably very important. you're really good at finding these things, it's just a matter of figuring out what they are saying or pointing us towards in regards to the story. good stuff man, hope we see more soon.

[@Mockingdragon]

I'm really surprised that everyone is so intent on why William would take a kid outside of a Freddy's. I just assumed it was the first time for him. The first crime was one of opportunity, and then he escalated to premeditated. To me, it didn't need to specifically be about Garrett. It's still a pretty big coincidence that both the Schmitt family and William were in Nebraska some ten years ago and meet again by chance at Freddy's, but that's the kind of coincidence that makes a story work.

[@Jynx.And.Astraea]

Thing is, if it was simply an opportunity like you say then how would William recognize the Schmitt last name?

[@Mockingdragon]

@@Jynx.And.Astraea Is it so weird that he'd have asked Garret's name while he was holding him? I mean, I think the fandom is on to something and I would not be AT ALL surprised if the sequel went that way. But it's not that hard to explain

[@Ajzan1]

I think the need for Garrett's death having deeper meaning comes also from the need to explain why one of Afton's crimnes happened many miles away from the pizzeria. While I don't recall hearing about it in depth in any true crime doc, it's seems possible for a serial killer to not have clear M O from the start. Like with everything, it takes time, trials and errors to master "the craft". Like Afton in the games: Charlie's murder, the very first one, was that of opportunity driven by jealousy and/or grief. Yellow bunny costume and animatronic stuffing came later.

[@wallkidstv]

@@Mockingdragon it’s not odd to know Garrett’s name, but odd to know his brother’s name and remember it so well decades later that he instantly recognizes it and knows it’s the brother even though they’re in another state so many years later. Afton even leans forward and looks more closely at Mike’s face, as if he’s trying to recognize him.

[@oburci9596]

@@Mockingdragon "Is it so weird that he'd have asked Garret's name while he was holding him?" The name Schmitt isnt so uncommon that you would be able to make a connection between 2 people just by randomly seeing the name 10 years later, however the case might be different if you used to have a business partner with the same last name that you knew had a kid called Mike Schmitt, who also happened to have black eyes and black hair.

[@ItsPeij]

I really appreciate that you and Matt are both leaning in to theorizing this but also acknowledging that... we don't really know much. Haha. It does feel fun to be at the start again in a way.

[@shinyeevee456]

Thank you, John!! I always love seeing your take on things ❤ While it's true that we don't have a lot to go on for theory crafting at the moment, isn't it so inspiring to be experiencing a similar feeling to when the first game came out? I feel like the movie has reignited the fan base and I couldn't be happier.

[@shinyeevee456]

I definitely did NOT just scream out loud when I got the notification John liked my comment. Certainly not.💀😂

[@AH-64EApacheGuardianHelicopter]

Congrats on your First Fnaf Movie Theory! Matpat would be proud

[@TheUnknownAK]

I think Mike's dad filling the role of Henry and not telling his kids about his job makes perfect sense. He likely worked on the animatronics in the very early stages of the business being created and potentially quit before the restaurant even opened. Because of this he might have not thought to talk to his kids about it since it might have been a while off from opening. Another perfectly reasonable explanation is that the trauma of losing his child and the potential that he knew William did it would be a perfectly justifiable reason to completely disappear and never speak of his work.

[@paradiso-gt-7452]

This video really opened my mind. For a bit, I kind of forgot what franchise we're dealing with

[@casperdiaz2213]

Commenting as I watch, but it is possible that rather than Henry keeping his life a secret, he could’ve been a robotics engineer who made robots rather than an actual business partner. To combat this, it does seem like William recognizes Mike’s last name, a lot of people overlooked that scene but he definitely had a change of heart when he realized who he was talking to. It’s possible that the memory of William was blocked out of Mike’s mind and Abby wouldnt have been old enough to remember him

[@TheLemonBrew]

I'm so thankful for your video because in theaters I was swearing up and down that it looked as if Cassidy's face was pasted over top of the original drawing, but none of my friends were able to catch it while the image was on screen. I hadn't been able to rewatch it on my own time to double check yet, so I'm glad to know I wasn't going crazy.

[@gustolphusadolphus8892]

I'll take "This solves everything" for $500 Alex

[@CRAFTYONSOMANYLEVELS]

HELP this just made my day 😂

[@ekonomikelma]

I watched the film and i think Mike's father might be Henry. Because even though the lore changed something, there must be things that are same. In movie Mike mentions that after Garret got kidnapped, his mom left. Then Mike didn't clearly tell what happened to his father but he paused a bit so he probably killed himself. Just like in Silver eyes.(You Just said that too and glad lots of people thinks like that!)

[@1HourLoopedgameOST]

I think this universe is an opposite universe of the games for example like matpat said Henry and Williams kids are swaped and instead of vanes getting introduced in the last game/film she gets introduced at the first film

[@Fangirltothefullest]

I find fnaf fascinating because if you look into the history of Showbiz Pizza and Chuck E Cheese, you see a fascinating friendship-turned-rivalry with the guy who programmed the animatronics/program that ran it, and the guy who wanted the pizzaria to thrive. If we see his dad in the movie being Henry, he might now have said he was working for a pizzeria if the engineering and software was his job. If you're busy making high tech (for the time) animatronics and your business partner wants to make spring loaded death suits, you might distance yourself from the toxic environment too and just put "computer and software engineer" on your resume and keep your kids from going to the pizzaria. and now for a hot take i think garret is balloon boy

[@HeartlandHunny]

I didn’t notice the face glued over the original Golden Freddy kid’s face! That’s wild! I love that the film creators threw in details like that that only the people scouring every frame for lore would find. It’s just so FNaF and shows how much they care about this series and the theory community.

[@amandamoore7512]

8:04 Ok but hear me out, in the movie William Afton explicitly performs Phone Guy’s role which means Purple Guy IS Phone Guy in the movie Especially when you consider the Night 4 dialogue of “check inside the suits in the back room” and sounds of banging on doors fits pretty well with William’s Springlock death in FNAF3 and if you consider William leaving messages for Mike in Sister Location Now the question is whether or not this is Scott confirming game lore or the struggles of such a small cast and after eight years of gaslighting idk which is which anymore

[@verdantmistral442]

This was something I toyed with it my mind as well, but it ultimately doesn't add up due to one small detail. The Day 4 phone call was recorded before Day 1 and William has his ironic death after disassembling the animatronics. Whereas the animatronics appear in perfect shape in FNAF1. It seems unlikely someone reassembled them, but not completely impossible. I'm not sure if you can see the backroom in FNAF1, so depending on if the door is blocked or not would tell us if Springtrap is there or not. Which if that is the case, then someone put them back together. And the souls are likely still trapped in the suits, which might be another point for the "Happiest Day" being a false ending. It is a very appealing story if the first game picks up right after Afton bites off more than he can chew. But it just seems unlikely.

[@amandamoore7512]

@@verdantmistral442 personally I’m just crying in the fetal position cause I can’t take anymore gaslighting and retconning from Scott lol It feels interesting that Phone Guy’s Night 4 call death includes him specifically asking us to “check inside the suits in the back room” and that the FNAF3 Purple Guy minigame death involves him being killed inside an animatronic in the back room and Mike somehow receiving instructions from William to go to Sister Location’s bunker in the first place I consistently have to remind myself that gameplay and minigame lore for each game don’t necessarily take place in the same timeframe/year/order. The FNAF2-3 minigames clearly take place BEFORE FNAF1 since the restaurant is open during them even if their actual gameplay don’t chronologically happen before FNAF1 So if Afton were to truly be phone guy, he could easily leave messages BEFORE the Springlock failure and possibly even after when released from the back room in FNAF3 since he just refuses to die

[@verdantmistral442]

@@amandamoore7512 The FNAF3 minigames seem to happen after the location was out of service as there are rats wondering around and water dripping from the ceiling.

[@jc_art_]

I really want to point this out, and your comment helps clarify my point. The movie was specifically made to where you shouldnt be able to theorize about the games story using the movie. Here are some things that are true in the movie: Purple Guy is the phone guy, Dream theory is proven real, Sparky the dog is real, Vannesa is Williams daughter, Mike is not williams son, and finally, the movie (and by extension vanessa being an adult) takes place in the year 2000. The movie also seems to fit the version of the story provided by The Living Tombstone in their song, "Five Nights at Freddy's". Now why does this matter? Because its all known to be incorrect in the actual games story. This was intentionally done so that you cant use, for example, mikes motivation in the movie to theorize about mikes motivation in the games, as in the movie, mike is a completely different character with completely different family, with a relation to someone who ends up scheming his downfall at a Sparky the Dog themed restaurant. I know its like talking to a wall to suggest that Matpat and Fuhnaff make connections where none should be made, directly to Fuhnaff and Matpat fans, but my hope is that some people realize that these two, sure come up with creative ideas, but nothing with real substance and foundation. They make theories that sound compelling enough to believe them, but really theyre kind of just based on nothing. The "Mrs Afton is behind everything" theory is a great example, where they propose that the CEO of Fazbear's (an entity we know nothing about) is actually Mrs Afton (a character we know nothing about), and it feels like it could be true because we have no answers for either, and lumping them both together has no competing evidence because there is no information about these characters at all, yet due to how they present the theories, many fnaf fans now believe with near certainty that Mrs Afton is the one pulling the strings of modern fnaf. The movie is now just in the same situation as the books where bad theorists use information from the external media to explain unexplained parts of the games story, under the explanation that they are "parallels" and since some things are the same between the two stories, other things must be the same as well. The fnaf movie was design smarter than the books, intending for fans to realize that any evidence drawn from it would be tainted by falsehoods, but clearly it didnt work, as now those bad theorists like matpat and fuhnaff are trying to link the movie to the games any way they can, like suggesting that because vannessa is williams daughter in the movie, that she could be the same in games, even though in the movie william has no other children aside from vanessa, meaning that if you claim vanessa as wills daughter using the movie as evidence, that you have to also say that mike and the crying child werent his kids, and Elizabeth never existed, which obviously isnt true. You cant just pick and choose what is true for the sake of your theory, because if you say some of the movie is true, then you have to say all of it is.

[@Sanimatez7865]

@@amandamoore7512But William didn’t die in that location. Remember we learned fnaf 1 takes place after fnaf 2. We get a call from the same phone guy in fnaf 2 on the 6th night stating that “The place was shut down, someone used one of the old suits, we had a spare in the back, a yellow one.” So the phone guy couldn’t have been William if the phone guy was sending a voicemail regarding someone dying in the spring Bonnie suit. We also get recordings of the same phone guy in fnaf 3 stating “Don’t use the spring lock suits and that the Spring bonnie is off limits.” Hope this helps.

[@HerSandiness]

I'm glad both you and Matpat seem to be on the same page. You both make compelling arguments. You look a little tired, John. Take care of youself. 💜

[@cliftonaudain956]

My theory is that maybe Mike could still be a Afton cuz Scott was like “they’re gonna know that Mike is a Afton so I’m gonna keep that but not the first movie” so maybe in the third movie it’s gonna be revealed.

[@mattiemcdoink8445]

This is gonna sound crazy, but. What if William started out just kidnapping kids and raising them as his own? His entire "family" just composed of kids he'd stolen from others and abused into being obedient to him?

[@BiggestBrianBellKinnie]

IVE BEEN WAITING AGES FOR THIS ‼️

[@MidasGold]

glad insomnia kept me awake to watch this right away

[@raibowwolf3032]

Sameee

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

If I'm going to be honest, I don't think Aunt Jane is actually de*d. I believe she'll return in the sequel movies. Also, there must be a deeper reason as to why she wants custody of Abby so much, and I don't think her intentions are good at all. A line Mike says in the movie when he's in the room with the Ella animatronic is this: "My dreams are more vivid, and I feel closer to Garrett when I'm here". If Garrett is indeed the second spirit inside Golden Freddy, this line makes a lot of sense. On the other hand, the phrase 'Come Find Me' could just as easily be used to say Garrett is inside the Puppet. Remember that no-one knew where Garrett was taken, nor did they ever find out who took him in the first place, so he's still listed as being 'missing' by the police, even though we as the audience know that William k*lled Garrett.

[@aidanbillington8785]

The second I pick up my phone, John posts a video. This was meant to be!

[@raibowwolf3032]

New celeb crush = Vanessa

[@Snailienz]

I love the idea but there is a problem. The "evil dad who made her say her mother did bad things" is a lie. The last therapist calls her out on it. She did some snooping and figured out that this is all fake and her family is very happy and is alive and well. I have some THOUGHTS about her telling such an specific elaborate story to make herself seem sympathetic, but it doesn't really apply to the movie. I'd love to see what YOU make of this fact in future videos.

[@kandieharrison4055]

That tape is patient 46 (Gregory), not Vanessa, I double checked on the Wiki page just now, just to make sure I wasn't mis-remembering and it's the final tape, which is labeled 4679. Gregory's tapes all start with the number 46 and Vanessa's all start with 71, so her backstory isn't debunked yet, so it's still a possibility.

[@FuhNaff]

Actually I believe it was patient 46 who lied about their family. Not Vanessa. I might be wrong though.

[@MrLlama-dm5eh]

My theory for the 'Ella doll' springlock suit is that it's simply an older version of baby. I say this because it could be a bit confusing to new audiences as to why an older animatronic looks futuristic.

[@McJous]

bro these theories got me like "TOY CHICHA IS WILLIAM AFTON"

[@SCP-469]

I feel like Garrett is very clearly “Movie Bite Victim” even down to the drip he’s wearing the iconic fit in the family picture but just as the puppet

[@catsual_gamer]

The most complicated thing about theorizing about fnaf these days is that we literally have no clue what is a meaningful detail put in deliberately as a clue and what is an as deliberately put in easter egg... A very good point on the drawing being altered, though, I was wondering what if it had meaning or was just them covering up an actual mistake made during the prop production (like traditional artists often do when they don't want to start the whole thing over again because of one small mistake), but we really will only find out what it all means in the later movies... Hopefully... (unless make more cryptic books to explain the movie's lore lmao)

[@verdantmistral442]

I think the movie is very obviously leveraging the identity of "the one you should not have killed" as a primary mystery. The blonde haired boy was shown to be extra creepy and more dangerous than the other ghosts. In fact, it seems like his whole goal with Abby was manipulate Mike in order to draw in Afton. Him staring at Springtrap at the end with the cold calculating look gave me "exactly as planned" vibes. The blonde boy seems to be the linchpin of the story that they are going to build around.

[@justice8718]

@@verdantmistral442 He's William Afton's son.

[@deadlymelody27]

This is so good, i cant wait to hear some of matpats takes on this too because some i can see him being like oooohhh maybe, and then the typical "well this is why you are wrong". I feel like those are just standard with all of your theories now. Some are really out there, throwing out lots and seeing what sticks, and others are like how did his brain come up with that! Either way better than I have ever theorised and i love it! Gives me loads to think about

[@patriciajin6206]

Josh Hutcherson did a flawless job covering the movie he's in.

[@divine-s]

John you never fail to impress us with your theories! Their thorough, quick, and get right to the point with plenty of evidence to offer. Outstanding job, John!

[@elidrorbaugh8608]

Awesome vid! Throwing things out there is the only way for this franchise to be figured out. I think that you made some really good connections and still stayed humble about it. Good work!

[@Spencycle]

I feel like the movie is trying to sort of combine the Aftons and the Emilys. Garrett is porbably meant to be a parallel of Charlie, and Mike's family story is similar to the Emilys, but the family in the movie has 3 kids and we only knew Henry to have 1 kid. Mike's sister's name is an anagram of Baby, and Afton's daughter was the one who possessed Baby. The Aftons and the Emilys combine to make the Schmidts.

[@tau-5794]

The family dynamics of the Emilys and Aftons are just switched. William has a single daughter, while Henry has an older son named Mike, a younger son who gets killed in the 80s, and a youngest daughter who almost gets stuffed into the chest cavity of a Baby-like animatronic. Mike-Garrett-Abby=Mike-Evan-Elizabeth Vanessa=Charlie Though there are some things that stay the same, like Afton killing one his old partner's young child and then having them go on to presumably possess the puppet.

[@Spencycle]

@@tau-5794 Henry still has a death that's really similar to Charlie's though...some of the stuff are meshed together, like the Baby thing I mentioned combined with Garret

[@fraserwaters977]

Mike doesnt seem to know aunt jane so well, so maybe its like a 'see eachother once every few years' thing? if they go years without seeing eachother (which very much seems to be the case with the lack of empathy to her nephew) aunt jane could have easily found a man, had a child with him and then left him. This would also show why she wants abby so bad, as she lost HER child to william in court

[@imalright48]

you're 100% right man this does feel a lot like fnaf early days. Just throwing stuff out there and we're all kinda on the same page but everyone throws in their own little something. Absolutely loved this video man wish I could like it more than once

[@MandySubs444]

Omg finally!!! I've been waiting for so long, John's theories r the best ❤🎉

[@HeisenbergFam]

Imagine John and MatPat team up to make FNAF movie theory

[@calix.000]

how are you E V E R Y W H E R E

[@joechisman5909]

its a bot@@calix.000

[@mrman287]

I see you everywhere

[@sharkkebunni]

Thank you for getting that info on the extra being the mechanic, cool that it is actually a Jim's worker in the film.

[@deconstructor3582]

One of the most common contrargument about Mike's dad being Hebry is that Mike knows nothing about the Freddy's. I thing it's awful and illogical contrargument. I'm positive that most of the kids don't know much, if not anything about their parents job. Or know only the title, - lawyer, teacher, or engineer. They don't know for what company their parents work, who is their boss, where the workplace is located, nothing. The lack of such knowledge doesn't mean that Henry isn't his dad.

[@thatjackass1403]

Need More Proof? Should be your new catch phrase

[@Joi_to_da_World]

Should be a T-shirt

[@_KaiTheGamer_]

Considering the *incredibly interesting* behind the scenes images Lucas Grant is sharing on Instant Graham (cough cough Fredbear Plush cough), plus the equally interesting outfit he wore for the movie premiere (a *grey and white striped shirt* with blue pants), I think Garrett is intended to be the Crying Child, or adjacent to that character. On top of that, the first 20 pages of the Movie Novelization were shown, and the scene where Mike claps that random jerk dad in the mall uses some interesting phrasing to describe Mike's emotional episode. This makes me wonder two things: 1: Who's possessing the Marionette/how will they handle that character. B. What actually happened to Garrett? Could the reason why Mike can't seem to resolve anything related to that dream-memory be because dome insurmountable guilt is preventing him from learning the real truth? Is that day on Nebraska even a real incident, or is it a false memory, and that's why Mike can't get past the car driving away? Some food for thought.

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

This is interesting. Thank you for sharing. I knew about the striped shirt and cut Fredbear plush scene, but I didn't know about the novelization already leaking.

[@thaddeusskywalker5293]

William told Mike he killed Garrett. And William is not one to lie, he likes to brag about what he has done.

[@Neku628]

I just thought Garret is somehow related to Balloon Boy since he's the first FNAF character we're indirectly introduced to in the movie. Maybe Scott can combine the Puppet and BB's characters into one new character, an animatronic that is both obnoxious and you have to look out for because they could lead to the killer animatronics to you.

[@Monika.v6]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@myrasoonge]

John. Thank you. Just thank you. My personal headcannon for the whole FNAF series is that Henry and William are brother in laws so the four kids (Foxy Bro, Charlie, Elizabeth, Crying child) are either siblings or cousins. Which makes it all one big happy family. So thanks for the call out on this theory.

[@Neku628]

There's one character I know has a huge connection to dreams and is a lot scarier than Cassidy. Her name is Miyu from Vampire Princess Miyu and she's able to get people to be stuck in a perpetual dream where all their fantasies come true. One of her victims was a guy is pretty much stuck petting a nonexistent cat for the rest of eternity.

[@dragonslairproductions5138]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that William/Steve recognized Mike's last name and then knew exactly who he was and who his brother was after that. That would fit in with Mike's dad being Henry, and William knowingly targeting the family.

[@_JoJo_Enjoyer]

wow, my jaw literally droped when i saw that Cassidies face was glued to the original picture. Thats a very cool detail, giving strong clues to G Freddy having two souls. Props to you for finding it, felt like back in the old days where we would count toes and fingers)

[@Reaper_20230]

I genuinely don't believe that the Ella doll is the movie's stand in for Baby. Baby is too important of a character for Scott and Blumhouse to treat that casually.

[@Nami8302_OwO]

With Garrett being glued over by Cassidy's face, I can only assume they share a body now, or are somehow linked like Jake and Andrew in the FF books or Gregory and Cassidy in the games

[@aurvoila]

holy moly its a fnaf movie theory

[@WitheredCircle]

Congratulations! It's great to see theorists dedicated to the games/novels branch out and tackle the movie. I've been thinking of some theories of my own, and this video is great to look back on the movie and be inspired.

[@innertuber4049]

Dang, that pasted face thing is actually really interesting. I also like how much more we interact with Cassidy in this universe, so maybe we'll be able to learn more from him.

[@OzarksVHS]

So, Scott's said Trilogy, there's the 3-picture contract they have with our villain. We're really seeing the blender of content and timelines for the first one, what's any guesses on a blenderized, "compressed" part 2 and 3? I'd hate to see a rush of everything prior to SB for 2 just so we could arrive at the Pizzaplex by 3.

[@tau-5794]

If two is going to be based on the second game, then chances are three is also going to be based on its corresponding game. Two will be a sequel and not a prequel, and probably focus on Mike trying to find Garrett. We may get flashbacks to Vanessa's past, maybe an homage to FNAF 4 while she's recovering in the hospital, and more info about William. I don't think he will be returning as Springtrap (yet) but he will likely be in dream or memory sequences.

[@MephiticMiasma]

"I apologize if this video felt a little scattered" Don't, you're accurately reflecting the possibilities at hand. It would be a mistake to sound more certain than you really are. We all have to wait for movie 2 now :)

[@technofurs]

something interesting to note is that the pizzeria in the movie only has one owner, as said in the training tapes. So is henry out of this timeline?

[@NawiWonka]

FNAF 1 pizzeria ≠ FNAF 2 pizzeria. Maybe only the FNAF 1 pizzeria has one owner

[@Finvaara]

I finally subbed to Peacock long enough to go watch the movie just so I wouldn't have to skip this video. Great work as always.

[@latabajaj1384]

"Mike and Abby discover the secrets of their fathers work" ah yes, the thing that happens to Charlie in the Silver Eyes trilogy.

[@sweaterhomeiscool]

This is honestly the kind of stuff I loved about FNAF from the early days. Seeing some lore and trying to piece it all together, but it doesn't quite all fit. So instead we get multiple really fun stories and ideas that we get to ponder while we wait for the next installment to come out just to do it all over again. In the end, it's just a lot of fun conceptualizing and storytelling that no mater what ends in a fun experience!!

[@cristianakin6922]

OMG everytime i told my friends that Garrett wasn´t necessarily the puppet they went crazy, glad you think the same thing :')

[@kleinerfischimgroenmeer2491]

I still believe the „Mike‘s father is Henry theory“ is true, because it really wouldn’t make any sense for William to recognize Mike‘s last name and immediately link it to Garrett. You can’t make the argument that he asked Garrett what his name was, „Schmidt“ really isn’t an uncommon surname. William must have had some kind of connection to the Schmidts, the kidnapping would be too random for that not to be the case. I hope the next movie delves deeper into the backstories of both Vanessa and Mike. As for the message, maybe William has another child who is loyal to him and would actually come save him, but that is a far stretch and probably not the case but whatever. Theorizing about the movie is fun and I can’t wait for the sequel. Your video is amazing!

[@fnanythingilikedaf3031]

It is the way I been waiting for the entire movie for Golden Freddy to show up lol but maybe in the next FNAF Movie, he will probably play a huge role in storyline with Puppet and Springtrap.

[@groudonor12]

Pretty sure both Puppet and Golden Freddy are big in FNAF 2 anyways.

[@imshinycaptain]

Honestly the biggest mystery of the FNAF movie is why you would ever choose to vacation in Nebraska.

[@frostyhazard2375]

THANK YOU JOHN FOR POINTING THE DETAIL OUT FOR THE CHILDREN PHOTO WITH SPRING BONNIE AND THAT THE HEAD SEEMS GLUED ON I NOTICED IT BUT I DIDNT HAVE A WAY TO SAY WHAT I SAW

[@soonahero]

That’s so cool the Henderson guy got a cameo as the animatronic builder

[@LogoAirsoft]

I can’t wait for the 2nd movie I hope it’s lore packed

[@meganpicozzi2922]

So glad you made this, I hope your right, the second movie is probably gonna answer some questions from the first, and I cannot wait for the next movie in the trilogy.

[@sam.w8477]

I'm ready for a 40 minute long matpat reaction to this video

[@SCP-469]

Weird thing but In one of the dreams, Garrett is terrified and is banging on the window

[@existentialselkath1264]

2:45 if Scott wanted a character to be the same person, he would have made sure they were the same actor. Coincidences do happen, some people just look similar

[@hexprincess9582]

It has been confirmed that Aunt Jane didn't die, just fainted.

[@civilwarstann]

oh i haven’t seen anyone talk about the head being glued on in the picture… that is an INSANE detail

[@oliverDAorange]

Balloon Boy being there is a LOT SUSPICIOUS

[@SH-zf1cf]

so glad to hear you say it wouldn’t make sense for mike’s dad to be henry because how would mike not recognize william or at least freddy’s both the pizzeria and the animatronics or their likeness. vanessa literally had to introduce them.

[@chocolatelightning]

I like the new direction it is like "ok this is the final version of the story" the books and games are so old now

[@JosRocks410]

Honestly, I am refreshed by your take of Garret being a spirit of Golden Freddy, as it honestly makes more sense at least narritively why that could be the case, because even if he isn't THE crying child, it is still very possible that he (somehow) went on to possess Golden Freddy, (Honestly I wasn't convinced but after writing this I realized that Garret might be being taken away dittophobia style so maybe he *IS* Crying child?). Plus all of the evidence for Garret being Charlie & Mike's dad being Henry genuinely seems like grasping at straws, honestly from a writing perspective it doesn't even make sense due to the face that for them to be replacements/stand ins as it would give them more creative freedom if they weren't tied down by the lore & legacy of how that character has been in other media (due to the nature of adaptations n shiz)

[@obrgrs2547]

Great theory! And who better to tell us about it than Michael Schmidt himself!

[@elishajones1286]

Something my daughter noticed in the movie is that Mike's brother Garrett is wearing the crying child's grey and black stripped shirt in the family photo on Mike's nightstand at the beginning of the movie. So I am betting Garrett is meant to be the crying child.

[@SexyDaler]

I'm sticking with my movie theory: Henry is Mike's dad, he did help William, something went wrong (subsequently, they kept everything from the kids and moved on) and to get revenge, William took Garrett.

[@LukiKruki]

There are another parallels to the game counterpart characters. ABBY SCHMIDT AND ELIZABETH AFTON - Abby is nickname for Elizabeths, just like Bill for Williams - Both Abby and Elizabeth talk to herself (Abby talking to ghosts nobody else sees, Elizabeth talking to people who never answer back) - Both Abby and Elizabeth not listening to their family (A: I will be back, E: Daddy isn't watching) - Both Abby and Elizabeth got lured with good intentions by an animatronic to be easily killed and became one of them (A: building a fort and Chica taking her to Ella the springlock suit, E: Baby's icecream and scooping) - Both Abby and Elizabeth having younger brother killed before her and older brother (Garrett and Crying Child, Mike and Michael) - Both Abby and Elizabeth weirdly caring, conflicted about her older brother (A: creating and removing Mike drawings, avoiding and keeping contact with Mike, E: "You won't die", "You don't know who is your employer, do you?", etc.) - Ella the springlock suit -> Ella the doll -> Charlie Emily -> Baby -> Elizabeth Afton -> Elizabeth in Baby mentioning the Funtime-like springlock mechanism came from her old pizzeria which makes the possibilty that the springlock mechanism is William Afton's personal work which would make not only Elizabeth but also Crying Child killed by his own creations (which parallels the movie him killing Abby and Garrett personally) but also it would make William doing murderers in Spring Bonnie even more personal to him and so getting killed by his own creation - Ella sounds similar to Elizabeth, and Ela is Polish nickname for Elizabeths (Elżbieta) MIKE SCHMIDT AND MICHAEL AFTON - traumatized, feeling guilty to be the reason of why his younger brother died (G: kidnapped from forest and killed elsewhere, CC: smashed by Fredbear and dying in hospital) - trying to survive with "wonderful" payment of Fazbear Entertainment - having his whole life influenced by William, being his puppet - attempting to save his sister resulted with his body heavily damaged (Afton: saving Elizabeth from Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental, Schmidt: saving Abby from the animatronics) Garrett Schmidt and Crying Child - besides all of this above, in the game he as well as Elizabeth were killed by an accident with William's creations (springlock mechanism of Fredbear, Circus Baby) while in the movie William attempted to kill them both personally (Garrett is obvious but with Abby it's William talking to the child ghosts he will bring a new friend to them, just like in Fourth Closet). - outside of that he will parallel his counterpart Crying Child with Golden Freddy by possesing Puppet, both are very aware, which in consequence will parallel Charlie Emily I think the reason why Scott Cawthon went with Vannesa Afton and Michael Schmidt is to told us that in the game her undercover name Vannesa A. is actually Vannesa Afton while her real name is Vannesa Shelly on the other hand in the game Michael Afton is actually Michael Schmidt, stepson of William's second wife, so William has a reason to ignore his first son Michael, to say he's not his baby because he's from his previous marriage he hates to be reminded of, his second wife even then loved her stepson Michael and wanted her husband to love him too and Michael Schmidt in act of jealousy seeing his father William Afton takes care of his younger children Elizabeth and CC more than him he bullied CC which ended with his unintended death and so Mike is even more disregarded by William. It unleashed the mad scientist of William that later will bite back Michael because his sister Elizabeth will die due to it. Michael feels so much pain, regret, depression that no wonder he thinks he should already die from scooping. Scott Cawthon went his way to never mention the surnames of Michael and Elizabeth in the games. You may think they are both just Afton but it's not as easily as you may think, haha, classic Scott. - besides all of this above, in the game

[@theotm]

6:35 I feel like the Ella doll beign represented as a springlock suit was intentional. Consider this, one of the most debatable topics right now was to know if Circus Baby was a springlock suit or not. The Ella doll is connected to Charlie from The Silver Eyes trilogy, but it is also connected to Baby from the same trilogy (Adult version of Charlie). Not only that but who is being stuffed inside of the Ella doll? Yes, Abby. And as everyone already knows, Abby is an acronym of Baby. In my eyes, the appearance of the Ella doll wasn't only a little easter egg, it was meant to show as evidence to CB being a springlock animatronic. However, this doesn't mean that Circu's Baby Pizza Wold exists in the universe of the movie.

[@TheShredder002]

Im glad someone agrees with me that Garrett could be a parallel to the crying child

[@josecerda96]

John: If Mike's dad is the movie's stand in for Henry, who worked at Freddy's as William's business partner, then why has Mike never acknowledge Freddy's before? What if Freddy's was his father's job in secret, which might be revealed in a sequel? Scott watching this video: Write that down! Write that down!

[@joedapro3606]

Babe wake up, new John fuhnaff video just dropped

[@DreamingNightmares]

I remember when it was revealed Vanessa was Afton'a daughter. At the cinema, I just went "Elizabeth?!" but then Afton called her Vanessa when he saw her instead of Elizabeth and my theory went out the window.

[@MetallicMonkey]

I feel that some of the stuff (if not all) of the stuff in the movie is canon. There was a lot that fit the original storyline, and in the end, all the place’s major events happened. Despite seeing some things that don’t make sense at first glance, I think it is important to believe that some of this stuff if true. Otherwise, other fnaf timelines might be going off of an entirely different multiverse or whatever.

[@jamescaudill4501]

You ain’t gonna catch me in the type of places everybody go

[@noahb3370]

I have a theory that Vanessa’s name (movie version) is Elizabeth. William had to change his name to Steve Raglan to most likely hide from the law. If Vanessa was working with Afton, who’s to say that Afton would force “Vanessa” to change her name to Vanessa Shelly?

[@gabriellockwood2780]

@FuhNaff *Henry Afton & Emily Schmidt* - Michael Schmidt - Abigail Schmidt (Books || Sammy) - Garrett Afton (Books || Charlie)m *William Afton & Clara Shelly* - Vanessa 'Shelly' Afton - Charlotte Elizabeth Afton Mike didn't recognize William because he probably spent more time with his mom, while his dad and uncle spent their time in the restaurant, with maybe unreliable-narrator glances of William. Charlotte and Elizabeth being the same girl also explains their weird habit of sharing the same 'body' at some point, much like Andrew and Jake(?), or CC and Cassidy. We never hear William be British in the movie, far from it, even. So who was "Mr. Afton" in Sister Location? Elizabeth, Charlotte, William, Henry, none of them are British... but the only other people we hear ever speak on recordings IS Henry, William, and the mystery speaker of FNaF 3--"Phone Dude". What if Edwin was impersonating William or Henry? Or whatever, right? 😂

[@carmenlynn5441]

Not to mention the novelization! In the books Mike's parents were described as his mom just kind of withered away in depression after failing to recreate Gabe with Abby, and Mike says that his dad just straight up ran off. Also Abby has a trust fund in the books which makes more sense than just social security for aunt Jane since Henry could have had a small fortune from his works with Fazbear Ent.

[@senaruryuin2773]

Whenever a theorist I watch actually aknowledges Henry's (self)personal murder animatronic / Henry ending his own life, it sparks the one theory I haven't seen anyone talk about but one I kinda assumed for a long time- Why did Henry make an animatronic to do it, and where is that animatronic now? If strong emotion / agony can fuse a human spirit to a machine, why hasn't anyone even contemplated where book-verse Henry is now? I always kind of felt like somehow he found out about Afton and what he'd done, to what ends I'm unsure. I even thought maybe game Henry did too, and perhaps had done it to always be on William's heels, the one who always comes back needs someone to oppose him, and if he was in an animatronic of his own, maybe he could do the same. Guess that opens a big ole can of worms, because if that was the case, I imagine it'd complicate things a lot.

[@ShadoeLandman]

Trying to make sense out of the movie is like trying to make sense out of a dream because it's like the world has gotten slightly messed up.