I Spectated a TRACER who says they should be a LOWER rank... is it true?

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[@imprincesswolfy2565]

“I should be silver” Chat: ego vod

[@techwizsmith7963]

Ironically, ego vod is good if you think your best isn't good enough for your rank

[@AbyssmalwasTaken]

Reminds me of that friend who says they never study before exams but still get 90% 💀

[@tristenherron1273]

I think low ranks look at Tracer in the middle of the team the same way high ranks look at turrets in the middle of the team. “Someone else will deal with it” 😂

[@unothegawdx2808]

Those turrets are fucking brutal unchecked lol

[@heyimsasa]

this is why i like watching emongg; great advice, really patient, funny jokes, and nice compliments.

[@CBDhotdog]

he’s such a sweetie

[@Princ3ssCai]

Yeah unlike Jay3 who insults everyone

[@DJP-cy9qq]

​@@Princ3ssCai Oh it's not just me... I've seen one video of him n he literally slams everything ppl do when he's supposed to be this "great" player bashing on someone that very clearly a lower level player n just making fun of em n shit

[@nepu3464]

⁠@@Princ3ssCaidon’t forget flats. Both of them watch lower ranks games and just doesn’t give that good advice. It paints them as having big egos and don’t really understand why the person isn’t playing like a grandmaster while in silver for example yk. When I first started playing overwatch was season 5 in overwatch 1. I started out as a silver, got into gold, then a HARDSTUCK plat for years and years.. then one season got straight into masters, didn’t even have a Diamond season at all. I don’t want to say it was my friends fault but I always played comp with them every time I played overwatch so I’d be in plat forever cause that was their skill rank. The way jay3 and flats slams on lower ranks is just a bit sad and disrespectful in a way because they really don’t understand lower ranks and how people think differently and are just not as good as them and don’t understand why they aren’t good at communicating. (Hint: it’s because lower ranks aren’t as experienced). I’m a grandmasters tank, dps, and support. Well used to be gm for support.. just high masters for support now. And just seeing them act like that to lower ranks is just second hand embarrassment imo. Emongg is very good and I respect how he gives the lower ranks tips and actually compliments them.

[@ArcNine9Angel]

@@nepu3464Well, keep in mind Flats' videos were absolutely roasting vids, with only occasional advice, and submitters knew that. Now I've not seen it myself, so if there's enough people that claim otherwise who had their replays reviewed, then that's legitimate. Jay3 I dunno, but he does seem like the type to do that.

[@recent2923]

I'm gm every role and have been since s6 ow1 peaking 4250 but I have never felt like I belong there, feel completely clueless and get shit on half the games but can't derank no matter how much I lose, its infuriating to play

[@vermillionranger8558]

Half your games means you should be there , by default of course.

[@jcsuarezjc4571]

Aren't you lucky,then there's me who has teammates who don't even heal me as I play tank

[@superstarr310]

@@jcsuarezjc4571if you have bad teammates more than half the time, you are the bad teammate. The universe isn’t targeting you.

[@michae976]

​@superstarr310 see you say that but then I get games where I'll have a tank rage quit 7 games in a row because he goes roadhog and the other team switched to zen Ana. (This is diamond btw) Elo hell is real

[@TS-uu4hp]

I’m a bronze 1 support and although I’ve been there for a year I can say I’m better than 95% of the people in that division. I just picked up DPS 2 days ago and all my placement games were in gold 1 lobbies. They placed me in silver 1 and although I can hang some games… all it takes is a game with an enemy tank that knows what they’re doing and I am promptly reminded that I don’t belong there. Edit: also I am having fun learning DPS so I can better play support against them/understanding their cool downs while picking up things from opposing players.

[@judopunch2672]

If the tracer is still checking this video for comments. Here are two warmups to do every time before you play for 5-10 minutes and you will see your success skyrocket. Go into the practice range, find a moving bot, stand still, attempt to keep your aim on the bot as precisely as you can. after doing that for several minutes, at slightly different angles, pick a stationary target, strafe left and right while keeping your crosshairs on the target. I promise if you do this 3 times per week for 10 minutes each time your going to notice your accuracy improve drastically and quickly after 2 weeks. But it needs to be consistent and regular. he more time you put in the better it will be, with the note of you will get diminishing returns if you do it for to long each session! Practice both of these at close, medium, and medium-long ranges. Advanced versions include doing this from above or below the target (there are reasons why this is advanced but I dont have time to get into it now)

[@blankname170]

javelin into pulse bomb?!!!!!!!!!!! That was a 6 head move right there! literally future sight!

[@eachfilly825]

Definitely unscripted Teamworks. Still amazing play.

[@crewd00d]

They belong in whatever rank this is... that being said, the SR of this match really looks like silver to me and not gold.

[@nnediamaster]

its on console so if your pc, its always one rank lower. So in this case they are gold console, probably bronze silver on pc

[@crewd00d]

@@nnediamaster oh okay, I didn't catch that it was console. Makes sense.

[@jaygoer3373]

@@nnediamaster Why is that? Do they have different ranking system or different player population?

[@nnediamaster]

@@jaygoer3373 people on console are objectively worse than people on PC because they don’t have mice

[@GlitchTheLitch]

​@@nnediamasterIt's not so much that they're worse rather than because they don't have the tools to compete. A good console player with all the same tools is just a good PC player.

[@justjay7093]

Minus finding a better off angle/target priority I also think their sensitivity is a problem. It’s near max sense and you can see them constantly over flicking and they’re basically fighting against their own aim assist for tracking. I don’t play console anymore but it was definitely an issue I had

[@Supboi]

His ses is way too slow. He can track but once they dash or get moved it’s too hard to follow along.

[@Sandy-mb2sc]

@@Supboithats just consle

[@teknyon]

@@Sandy-mb2sc no it’s not i never have any of the issues anyone in this thread has said He needs to turn up his sense and get used to it

[@MyuNeptune]

Pretty much in ranks from Bronze to high gold (even lower plat) nobody takes care of tracers and sombras. That's why they're so effective even if they're not necessarily good. I can take care of tracer on Zen no problem for example (dps/tanks 99,9% of games don't help with them), but Sombra? I still didn't find a counter for her...I think the easiest so far for me was LW cuz i can spam his dmg to reveal her, but then i have hard time to kill her. Always gets away with 10 health or kills me faster than i kill her.. ;.; So the sitting on point for ages doesn't surprise me.

[@chilelekochileya5676]

Brig is good against sombra, ana brig isnt bad either

[@MyuNeptune]

@@chilelekochileya5676 I can't make myself to play her...i always instantly die. xD *plusdontrlylikeher*....i tried ana and i cant either (im good at sleeps on range but close i always miss idk how xD). It's frustrating cuz I'm type of player that always help support on every role..and i never get same reaction back (can't even count how many times i die saving someone but they dgaf cuz they lack of awarness ...in situations where i easily could fall back safely with tiny help). ;.;

[@Doggof2p]

People arent so good with aim so thats why smurfs go fast moving characters in bronze to gold

[@MrrVlad]

bap, kiri? lw should be able to finish sombra sometime - can still spam and double jump to chase when she tries to escape. And in my experience people start helping with tracer/sombra starting low silver.

[@favlam1408]

This is why you go Torb, auto win against these flankers everytime at these elos.

[@trueMAXIMUS]

we need a separate bingo game for comments left in the chat during a vod review. i think "ego vod" should be the free space LOL

[@nemebliss]

Nah, replace that with "is this console???"

[@trueMAXIMUS]

@@nemeblissLMAO that’s a good one too

[@k8x97]

Think part of it is that OW is so inconsistent that people can't get used to what it feels like to be challenged at their own rank, they either stomp or get stomped, and they're going back and forth so often that it embeds all their bad habits and keeps them from improving imo

[@skystruck236]

I just have to say, something I notice as a mercy main and being in the back of my team surveying everything… I have come to the conclusion in Gold they straight up ignore Tracer’s ALL OF THE TIME. Doesn’t matter how many times I ping her. They blatantly ignore her and don’t wanna deal with her which ends up costing my team when it happens. She’s a pain to get rid of so no one wants to they just pray she goes away😂

[@scabby.knees99]

Looking at how everybody played, if this is a gold lobby, this person belongs in gold too. By the same token, if they truly belong in silver, so does the rest of the lobby 👍

[@elderly_owl]

i love emog

[@Matt-ki3wb]

me 2

[@FronkZappa]

When Emogle goes Worceston or Dbya on tank mode I cry joytears

[@PunkZombie1300]

I like g gnome

[@elderly_owl]

@@FronkZappa he needs to play worchestsire more

[@sonderbain]

Despite their gamesense and positioning their tracking is actually not that bad. They suffer a bit from lazy aim with how slow it is and I think that also hampers their reaction timing. I'd say double that sens and with practice they could get higher.

[@makianasilva]

I really like this man in this spectating metal rank videos. He is the only one who is understanding and doesn't make fun of the plays. Okay, he joked about the widow thing but you see it wasn't in a mean way. Does it make sense? Idk, I like him.

[@Zathren]

You saying it wasn't a mean way can be said about LITERALLY ANYONE WHO MAKES FUN of someone in in a metal rank. Namely, every OW content creator.

[@3amAfterlife]

​@@Zathrenmad cause bad, me too though cuz I'm silver lol

[@jupiter2815]

Tracer got Cass nade omg

[@ThySupremeFriend]

I think this person could be plat now if they work on blink management and go closer for pulse bombs. I've never been silver, so I don't know what silver lobbies look like, but I started playing the game at a gold/low plat level, so I think anyone can get there pretty easily. I finished my first season of the game plat on Wrecking Ball (my first placement was gold 1) and then struggled through plat until I reached 400 hours on the game and finally became a diamond player. I had a really bad loss streak on dps and went from first placement of plat 3 all the way down to gold 4 and then to plat 1 and what I've learned is the difference between a low gold and high plat player is a few mistakes. I got placed in a gold 1 lobby as a plat 2 dps and consistently hit headshots and soft carried the team on Ashe but I used my ults wrong and we lost. My team did some really stupid shit (Reaper and the two supps decided to walk in alone after me and the tank died and used blossom) and I could have carried them despite that but I fucked up my Bobs. They used beat so the three ults we used on them did not matter :). When I first started playing support I was gold because I had poor nano timing/held onto nano too long. I fixed just that and shot up in rank. Now I'm almost masters. TLDR- improving your ult usage is probably enough to get you to plat.

[@MatchaJus]

Twitch chat was kinda slow for getting confused on that Mei joke ngl 😭 then to say it was emongg’s fault for them not getting it 😭😭😭

[@justingrantham3538]

Heh? When did they add the rainbow highlight for the like dislike. When he said sub to all youtube channels 18:52. Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me 😂

[@Real_MisterSir]

This person (are they console? It looks like console) appears to have what I personally like to call "lazy aim" -which is basically when their crosshair movement is way too slow relative to the playstyle they're trying to apply. This is noticeable especially with a hero like Tracer, if you're applying a swift-movement playstyle with rapidly shifting direction of attack, you need to be able to move your crosshair accordingly -but in this case with this player, their crosshair always seems to be lagging behind very significantly, when they're in high pace situations with blinks being used mid fight. It feels like their aim is lazy, like they can't be bothered with moving their aim too much as if it puts a strain on them or something. If you're a PC player and experience this, you can either try to train yourself in using more arm movement instead of just wrist movement -or you can adopt a higher sensitivity. In that case I would advice you go up in increments of 20% at a time to get a feel for a balance point between what is manageable, and what actually has meaningful impact. If you're on console, the only way is to improve your sensitivity, which may be jarring at first as oyu have less control than a mouse player, but console has fewer levers to pull from and that's just a limitation you gotta work around. If you don't want to change your sensitivity or aim style, then you gotta shift your playstyle itself, to where you always try to angle your attacks from directions where the enemy is unlikely to move counter to you (aka side to side) -and in the cases where they do end up moving side to side, instead of tracking them with your aim, just track them with your movement by copying their side-to-side moves while you keep your aim steady. Typically such playstyles are effective if you set up positions of attack from straight behind the enemy and mostly blink back/forth during engages, and only blink to the side to dodge an ability/get into cover where you have half a second time to readjust your aim. Typically good to blink into rooms when you've been fighting someone out in the open (like on an objective point), so that the room itself gives you enough cover and time to readjust your aim and consider if you want to continue engaging in the fight or take a step back to re-evaluate the situation. You generally don't want to expose yourself to more than one person at a time, especially not if they're on opposing sides of your FOV. This is a hard NO-NO. ONLY do it if you're the sole person contesting an objective in overtime. Otherwise, never let two enemies be on opposing sides of you. Ever.

[@NobleRenegade7]

Aint reading all dat

[@themelonman3384]

i aint reading allat

[@spacejesus6581]

Adding on to controller, you can also change your aiming method in settings, it’s set to dual-zone by default but you can change it to the more erratic Linear or Exponential ramp, I remember one of them sucks and the other is the one all the good Genji and Tracers use, problem is that aiming method makes it a lot harder to play characters like Soldier Widow Ashe and so on because the aiming is a lot faster and more erratic I’ve been rocking dual zone since I just don’t like how the others feel and I’ve pretty much accepted that I’ll never be good with Tracer or Genji, on controller max sense with dualzone it’s not even possible to do a ghost dash on Genji, you physically cannot turn 180° during the dash on dual zone

[@itsgambl3r803]

Brother typed up an essay

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@NobleRenegade7 I aint reading all dat

[@hartyewh1]

Looks a bit messy for gold, but bothering the backline is value so you rank up. There's some more occasional game sense here than skills.

[@DivaaGaming]

Nah, this is gold. They played like a gold. They deserve their rank

[@favlam1408]

tbh if nobody said anything, I woulda thought they're in bronze 💀I think Gold has a lot of different variety of players, since it has the largest population. This might be the lower end of Gold.

[@Th3D4nny]

@@favlam1408 I think they said it was gold 4 so yeah, there's definitely a noticeable difference between gold 4 and gold 1. And a lot of people get gold after placements, but derank straight afterwards. If you get some of those people in a match then the match quality will be terrible. Gold is the most volatile rank for sure.

[@littlecreeper8543]

@@favlam1408 apparently this is on consol aswell which might make them look a bit worse

[@hartyewh1]

A lot of people actually throw the Tracer ult when more skilled people press Q inside of the enemy.

[@haron521]

I'd like to be inside mercy as tracer

[@drsquid8124]

I don't play tracer, but I'm a silver/gold dps and this feels so slow.... am I crazy?

[@basicname1555]

No because games are different paces depending on the comp and rank.

[@ncrest4365]

Nope, not at all, I faced against gold players who are way better than this, something doesn't add up here. The only explanation would be everyone in this lobby deserved a lower rank, not just the tracer lol. Maybe they in a huge lose-streak, so the matchmaking is trying to force a win.

[@CoalBrando]

Maybe it's because it's console

[@nemebliss]

Omg it's console. How can people still not tell?

[@spindles6507]

I'm bronze and think i should be lower This game fr gives me an existential crisis

[@danielparent9194]

Ive had to experience Bronze and Silver because i never played FPS and im nearing my 40s. This game really look like a low gold game. Silver and bronze are really a different world. Emongg is giving good advice. Main Tracer now in Diamond. If my old oink ass can do it you youngster can too

[@Coleslaw-wj1qw]

Emong is so sassy in this vid I love it

[@Jevilrune]

As a mei main I can say that sniper mei is super op and I always beat my sniper duels vs widow

[@hoodzgaming2274]

That tracer spot at the beginning doesn’t work if they play on low settings as the bush won’t be there.

[@MrHaggyy]

I like the playstyle of that Tracer. Good foundation to be annoying as hell.

[@Rubenlostit]

Hopefully this guys map knowledge gets better if he wants to stay in gold, bro got lost like 4 times this video not knowing where he's going

[@remram9858]

Just started to play Overwatch 2 again, rusty ofc... I main Ramatra, any tips on how to use him better?

[@cyberfaunix6920]

gold by title, silver in spirit

[@grimskull94]

A player that wants to be in a lower rank?! That's new 😯😂

[@AaronWOfficial]

wow, so humble

[@noll7779]

I’m literally new and noob and got placed to platinum as support… I was aiming to get to bronce. My rank experience stopped right there. I don’t like making people mad and most likely they are right.

[@PoggingLizard]

An Emongg video with someone denying their rank? Thats new.

[@martinthomas2520]

Most humble gold player

[@rokikubo]

emongg is extra snarky here omg

[@Geddn]

Anyone else said we didnt get the C9 song when they got the point.

[@Kittatomo]

honestly after watching this i feel like i should atleast be in like gold 1-2 atleast but ive been hardstuck silver 1

[@beeno3487]

Get closer for pulse bombs. That’s it gg.

[@imfuckingtired2835]

I'm definitely am at the same place. I'm high gold but 100% deserve low silver. And I'd prefer to play there so I can learn how to be a decent solo player because right now I just larch onto teammates and get annihilated when I even try to do my own thing

[@evenseanbean]

any idea when the next potg bingo is ?

[@WintonOverwatch645]

Emogg

[@khaosApophis]

Being stuck in gold is crazy.

[@im2hype94]

I was wondering why he ain’t sneak cap the point like three times the other team Keep leaving the point

[@PROBLEMASAQUI]

I played Lucio and my teammate played Mercy on a game of control in Open queue. I had 19k healing and Mercy 18k, while the other team's healer had like 12k and 11k. Granted, we still lost the game somehow in a nail biter, but that comp can kind of heal okay.

[@kevinarzola4781]

I made it to Diamond and I’m honest I don’t belong there lol I just get lucky runs and I get carried

[@flyingfajitas]

Alright, SO!

[@Perpetual-thought8465]

Bro how am I sliver…

[@davidw789]

I've watched the first 2 fights and I agree, they should be lower, and that's alright. You get players like this who are higher than they should be and then you get me who goes 5-0 with the last rank system and loses 3 tiers of rank 🤷‍♂️

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

Someone is calling to be at a *lower* rank. Gotta say, that's a first.

[@esburn7895]

i feel like their sensitivity is so low the have to aim with WASD

[@KledMainLars]

Im glad youre not watching my gameplay... You would roast my gameplay soooo hard

[@orgaysis]

How do I turn in a match for you to review cuz I'm a Gold support that went from Unranked DMG to Plat 4 Dmg and I thought I'd being in silver at MOST! xD Keep in mind that I'm a console player with a broken analog stick. lmao I had to climb out of silver as a support and I started comp seriously at around season 7 and before that I only played casually with friends.

[@KyouOneZilla]

This is console, so any healing you don't have to aim is just stronger by default, so you'll see a lot of Mercy/Lucio at lower levels

[@hollow9390]

holy mother of......what is this, wood league?

[@Sprungler]

Rank is broken, really badly. I have plat-level players in my bronze lobby and this Tracer is in Gold? Sure, why not

[@jahmasih4193]

I play qp and dont care what rank I am. It's just not important tuh meh

[@alctorres]

oh, hi

[@Dmanbradley]

That enemy team absolutely *refused* to shoot anyone but the tank most of the game - no matter who may kills Tracer got. Is this what Gold looks like now? The player's aim was probably at least at Gold, but the overall gamesense of the lobby seems off. I haven't played in a year, so maybe the reduced playerbase shifted overall SR?

[@user-vy8nw1bq4q]

Widoemeiker

[@Stalker_mechenov]

I absolutely confused and do not even know what to say about enemy's team in first game They literally do not care about enemy's Tracer right in front of them, they do nothing Maybe I'm missing something, did they agreed not to kill this Tracer or wth did I just witnessed lmao

[@AnassaGaming]

I hope he notices my submission one day so I can get feedback to improve, best to learn from the best tank player!

[@Theregulersonicfan]

This is not hide and seek

[@Willysedom]

Guys this is console gold. So yeah basically silver pc.

[@TrueMiz]

Eggnog

[@generaldream6206]

Think this was gold and like if this is gold tracer my tracer should be like plat to diamond lol guess it will just take time

[@J00nstarz]

I have the same problem I’m in gold 4 and I should be in like silver 5 or something(healer)

[@eachfilly825]

There fine in gold. There not to high.

[@Tiptronics]

The mouse sens is killing me, looks like 200dpi 8ingame lmao Turning through custard

[@destinym1902]

I’m early!

[@DinoDemon-ee5dz]

I am early 33 seconds ago 👇early gang/👇Late gang

[@Nillix1]

@05:04 why do u think people are hard stuck at gold when 90% of the time u have teammates like this that dont have any clue what is going on. no matter what, in the end its a team game and a single player can not consistently tip the balance in every game and grow in rank.

[@vermillionranger8558]

Not your average player, that's why another of people are stuck in an average rank.

[@CainRG1]

Your enemies have just as much chance of being bad as your teammates though so it balances out. Actually you have 5 possible bad opponents and only 4 possible bad teammates so it works in your favour as long as you play good. But people don't want to think about that because they want to feel like them being stuck is someone elses fault and not their own

[@bananamonkeygaming14]

if you want to climb you need to carry, you won’t get to grandmaster playing like everyone else’s level

[@Nillix1]

​@@CainRG1 i had a bastion on my team that managed to deal 8k damage but somehow only get 2 elims and a soldier with 6k dmg and also 2 elims in the first round. the tank had 11k damage with 12 elims as a Orisa. sadly our supports played Lucio/mercy (worst healing combo possible) so the healing wasnt sufficient to keep both bastion and orisa alive. what made it worse is that the soldier and bastion blamed the Orisa for losing. while the enemy team praised the Orisa by the end of the game as being the carry

[@kaiseremotion854]

@@Nillix1 I think its a fine balance. as DPS you can make waves, but if your skill is average you need the tank and supports to back you up. some games I do completely terrible, while others I blaze through the enemy team. its a tough balancing act

[@BgJimy]

this is gold? because that's bronze in Europe....ugh

[@wish5615]

That aim is terrible, like wow.

[@Graygba]

CHANGE SENSITIVITY DEPENDING ON YOUR HERO! Mei sens was fine Tracer sens was AWFUL

[@Th3D4nny]

No don't do this it will throw off your aim. Aim is all about building muscle memory. Gotta use the same sens even across different games.

[@Graygba]

@Th3D4nny highly disagree. Maybe for brand brand new players. But different attacks require different sensitivities. The sens this player was on is near impossible to use in the way they are. Either they have to change the way they move their mouse, or their sensitivity. Coming from a sombra, ashe, widow, cass, tracer player. The middle 3 can all be very similar. But sombra and tracer ABSOLUTELY need a higher sensitivity than the others unless you are GODLY at dragging your mouse. It doesn't even need to be a big change, just minor adjustments. Then again I guess it's all preference. But seriously sit and consider whether your current arm/wrist movements match your sensitivity for the faster vs more precise aiming characters

[@Th3D4nny]

@@Graygba Some heroes don't need a higher sense, you just need to become 'godly at dragging your mouse'. Just get a lightweight mouse and good (and very large) mousepad and this won't be an issue at all. Muscle memory = king when it comes to aim.

[@Graygba]

@Th3D4nny yeah again if you can just fix the arm/wrist movements, then fair enough. The free option is sensitivity though.