I Spectated An Aimbotting Tracer That Climbed 3 Ranks In One Night In Overwatch 2

[@kaijuu_tho]

If someone is using hardlocking, spinbotting, never missing a headshot - just make their queues never pop. Just put them in a forever queue. That would probably piss them off way more than a ban.

[@yoshiracer3d682]

Yes, give them false hope that they can actually play the game. We want cheaters to SUFFER! AS I HAVE!

[@PrimarinaBay]

You know those guys would probably try to pawn those accounts off for a quick buck too, which would flood the market with unusable accounts, discouraging people from buying new accounts, lol.

[@Juccu]

@@PrimarinaBay buying accounts is also a bannable offense so gets rid of 2 birds 1 stone

[@imnezu8940]

I think it was the game titan fall where the devs would put all the hackers in their own queue against only themselves. Something like that would be hilarious hahaha.

[@wicked5999]

@@PrimarinaBay self report?

[@Ramas39]

Yelling at your team saying that you hard carried when you are LITERALLY HACKING might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Having an ego when 0% of your wins are the result of your own skill is unreal.

[@lordarmageddon2546]

-10 million aura for kung-fu letter tea bagging cheater with a bigger ego than the eiffel tower.

[@arcadeinvader8086]

@@lordarmageddon2546 yeah the eiffel tower's ego is unreal

[@therealdoc]

It's a Chinese cultural thing. Most hackers are from there and they are quite proud of it because winning by any means necessary is far more important than "skill" in their eyes. It's why pay to win is also SUPER prominent over there. Winning in a pay to win game is like flaunting your wealth to the "rice pinchers" you're up against.

[@Darrakkii]

⁠@@therealdoctheir name is in Korean lol. There are more cheaters in Asia because Asia has the largest base of gamers in the entire world. It's not a cultural thing at all, what a stereotypical thing to say.

[@KimJongUnnum1]

@@therealdocam I chinese to you?

[@DocDictator]

When your game is infested with so many hackers you start tutorializing how to draw ranked matches

[@BigOwl51]

Blizzard can’t stop cheaters because they’re too busy carefully crafting the first ever legendary venture skin *inhales copium*

[@Thomas_The_Thermonuclear_Bomb]

​@@BigOwl51 Nah, they're still too busy sexually harassing their female employees

[@jbcroos918]

Yep, I had my gold console match against a trio called pocket(mercy) m&k(Reinhart) and xim(sojourn),potg the flicks xim was hitting were insane, but Im glad those devices are a hard no in overwatch

[@PrimarinaBay]

The worst thing is, the literally false ban people for cheating while this guy can roam free for that long. I had my account punished for cheating and it took ages to get through their automated bullshit system to reach an actual person that was willing to investigate my account, see that I wasn't cheating and unban me.

[@Thomas_The_Thermonuclear_Bomb]

@@BigOwl51 Nah, they're still too busy sexually harassing their female employees

[@Roz_Clear]

Love the Hanzo in the push game that lowkey decimated the cheater lol

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

Did you notice that the cheater had their ego really hurt when that happened because they started to hard target the hanzo in his spawn? The cheater has a very fragile ego and it really really shows which is why he shit talked the first game

[@lordarmageddon2546]

​@@Antonio-ys5zdthen he t bagged the same player at the end of the round when he switched souj

[@lionheart343LOL]

@@Antonio-ys5zd Anyone who cheats in competitive games genuinely has a tiny baby bitch ego

[@strangejune]

also the lifeweaver in the diamond game, shout-out to that guy

[@EdgarLadrak]

Fr

[@deltaxvs]

Ban waves are just flat out not even that noticeable at this point and you can’t tell me otherwise

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

You don't even need the ban wave with this cheater in particular because of his ego he said swear words in chat. According to past Blizzard statements that could be a permanent ban. All blizzard has to do is use that as the excuse to ban this idiot

[@Lexieidk]

It was super noticeable for a few weeks after the wave but after that, felt like it didn’t make a single difference

[@Momijitheawoo]

The ceaser profile is peak

[@n0madc0re]

This will kill the game in no time

[@Real_MisterSir]

Also since they're waves, all the cheaters know when there's been a recent wave and also therefore know that there will be a while before the next wave. Literally just surfing the hardlock period in between cus I mean what are the risks if waves are the only thing to watch out for?

[@arminlouieedar4995]

I can tell he got salty about that hanzo on 2nd game. Lmao the cheek, the nerve, the gall, the audacity and the gumption!!

[@deijix]

ONG homie went from walls and locking to full on spin botting on sojourn after getting diffed by the hanzo. You KNOW his tissue paper ego was hurt 😢

[@holaiamdevil]

AND the gumption!!!

[@TomasMosca]

What OW is missing is a system like chess pages, where if they detect someone cheating you recover your lost elo from that match.

[@Ayzlxn]

Yes please 😭😭 Or something similar with leavers if they’re gone for the rest of the match and don’t rejoin in the last like few seconds or something

[@frenchspam785]

It has one 😅 but only in the game, not even after the game. And if the anti-cheat is doing nothing now, u getting nothing back

[@strangejune]

iirc there's actually a reason they don't do this, but i don't recall what it is

[@dboyedoe]

​@@strangejunethere's probably a super roundabout way to abuse this to boost accounts or something

[@Kratos-eg7ez]

​@@dboyedoe A tiny minority of people might find a way to cheat it, maybe. I don't think that really matters. I think blizzard are just lazy and they don't really care to improve the game.

[@BigOwl51]

18:10 giving this person the benefit of the doubt is like watching your dad punch your mom in the face and thinking “maybe there was a mosquito on her nose”

[@cactuscian]

I did the math: if this guy climbed 4 ranks and played about 3-4 games per division (only wins + win streak + probably uphill battle to combat the win streak) that means he would have played about 70-80 games that day. If every game, everyone from the enemy team and none of his teammates reported him, that's about 300-400 reports in one day. That number only goes up if we account for his teammates reporting him. How Blizzard didn't catch onto him I have no idea

[@FAILMASTERTHEGAMER]

Tbagging while hard locking is crazy ☠️

[@Adelemphii]

If blizzard wants to pay me minimum wage to sit down and review reports for 40 hours a week, I'm here. Send me an email.

[@thathomiefox]

I need that, fr

[@xd3athclawx554]

honestly fr I would do that as a part time job like 3 days a week.

[@TheDapperDragon]

That's what kills me. You could literally offer it as a 'gig' job. Have a site where you can sign in and inspect the videos, and flag them for 'obvious cheating, send to front of the line. ' or 'not hacking, leave in queue ​@xd3athclawx554

[@mag1ckyle799]

all the unemployed friends on a Tuesday could do this lol

[@thathomiefox]

@@mag1ckyle799 but we wouldn’t get paid..

[@BloodlustedManiac]

I think the more disgusting part of this video is that in the second replay the team saw their Tracer was cheating, even when they swapped and started spinbotting- AND STILL tried their hardest to win the match instead of drawing. That showed me they were so desperate for Elo they’d be okay with cheating.

[@wetbreadno8279]

i never knew u could draw push maps

[@xd3athclawx554]

@@wetbreadno8279 I thought the only was was to hold it at the very middle from the start of the game to the end but even then that would need perfect precision to have both teams step off the same time and then it would be luck who wins because someone would push it last.

[@flarekightmusic660]

@@wetbreadno8279Then just sit back and either watch or troll. Why help them. Thats just being stupid.

[@GhostlyLil]

@@wetbreadno8279 flats explained it in the video both teams would have to communicate that, but even then it's still low ranks and knowing low ranks they love having cheaters bc it means a free win

[@strangejune]

i throw games with cheaters even if they're on my team. the game has no competitive integrity, but the cheater deserves to lose more than i deserve to not lose SR.

[@ItsNanna19]

"WELL, that's not all. I have more." Anticheat is deader than dead, I guess.

[@Real_MisterSir]

"Anticheat these days is more of a suggestion than a rule" -Cpn Sparrow, probably

[@blissless127]

@@Real_MisterSirI think it was guidelines and barbfucka

[@lovablegoblin7237]

"How do bronze and silver players know someones cheating better than diamond." My fiance is diamond and I rank somewhere around gold/plat. We can only play quickplay together, he's console, I'm pc. He refused to believe me when I call out soft locking because as he says it "this looks like normal gameplay to me." Because apparently soft locking looks like aim assist.

[@Finn-wc8nq]

Seems like a console player thing not a rank thing then

[@wskblade]

I just got a 2 week account suspension for “inappropriate communication” when I literally don’t speak at all in overwatch, yet these mf’s just getting away with hard locking for months in top 500 etc, such a pathetic company

[@bennettnez4711]

Chat counts too, you probably griefed somebody

[@deus2243]

Same, i got a 2 week ban for just playing junkrat.. I never said anything in chat or trolled

[@strangejune]

​@@deus2243oh god, it's junkrat. it's worse than we thought... this deserves a longer ban for sure. /j

[@totalwhitetrash]

​@@deus2243I never believed this was actually possible until I one-tricked Junkrat this season, with all chat turned off. I've never seen so many "avoided" and "reported" warnings in my life. With a 57% winrate in Diamond 2, no less, so it's not like I'm throwing any matches, or trolling, junkrat is legitimately pretty good in this meta. But the issue reports are based on frequency, not severity. If 3 people report me, then I'm immediately seen as guilty. Honestly, unless Blizzard gets some actual human beings monitoring the reports and bans, 6v6 is going to be a disaster for them. Saying 6v6 is back, that's one thing, but admitting that 6v6 being back means there's now space for 2 more cheaters per match? That'll kill any good PR they've built in an instant. They did update the report system recently, so that's a good sign, making it easier to report mid-match on all platforms, but if it's all automated for the foreseeable future, it does nothing.

[@wskblade]

@@bennettnez4711 I rarely type in the chat and when I do, I don’t say anything that would get u banned etc, I only say stuff like “That’s why I’m the goat” & “This is MY HOUSE” just to annoy people, but those aren’t ban worthy messages.

[@spiceman7778]

노버랜드 literally translates to Noverland but also Neverland so I might be reading it wrong But it could also be a typo. 노브랜드 is No Brand The difference is so slight, so it could easily be someone using a Korean text but not knowing the language. So 노버랜드 = Noverland/Neverland 노브랜드 = No Brand Idk I always find it fascinating when cheaters use Korean names or other languages names, and it translates to either something you might see going around to blend in better or something wacky.

[@KidneysHurt]

I think it's probably a case of this cheater using Google translate instead of actual words, which leads to this confusion. I'm just guessing that they mean "Off Brand" or something, likely referencing their cheats.

[@tooshietom]

Pronouncing it kinda sounds like no brain, which makes the most sense to me

[@JennaCryonia]

that crazy if this gets anywhere near common the poor Koreans are gonna get flamed over this nonsense like us chinese back then over some random spinning shithead

[@zarokaim5107]

"No brand" is a food chain in Korea, they do budget friendly stuff

[@deus2243]

​@@KidneysHurtDoubt, you cant use asian characters in your name if the accounts origin is not from that country.

[@maskedcorn7756]

I ran into this guy in Junkenstein's Lab yesterday. He chose Ashe and just fully controlled the game

[@2k2eg20]

i have too, he played ashe against me too

[@VideoKingist]

Wait, are you sure about that? That would mean this guy has been rampaging for 2 months straight. 🤢

[@The64332]

@@VideoKingist i ran into him in a diamond 3 lobby not long ago, played widow and spawn camped anyone who wasnt the tank while the enemy team just shit talked in text chat, reported the whole team for communication and cheating, non of them got banned but atleast one got a warning cause i got a "thank you for reporting" the next day

[@Xport9]

@@The64332 Just Blizzard, doing Blizzard things. Clearly, they have no population for this game, and just letting hackers run rampant, and ironically, whatever population is left, they too will leave. Classic Blizzard.

[@The64332]

@@Xport9 they care more about banning for constructive criticism then they are about the cheaters ruining hundreds to thousands of games a day

[@WarriorOfStarclan]

I'm always genuinely baffled at cheaters. I've played single player games with cheats before and it just sucks out all the fun for the most part, I can't imagine the appeal of doing this when the fun of Overwatch is improving your skill over time and hanging out with friends. Like it genuinely just seems like a waste of time to play like this when they could idk, be doing the dishes and accomplishing more.

[@kobejones56]

cheating in single player games is actually fun in some single player games 6 star battle royale with pedestrian riot and have weapon cheats with all the best guns in gta san andreas is so wild

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

I remember I was bored in GTA San Andreas and I'd spawn the Hunter attack chopper and then give myself 6 star wanted level and then see how long I can fight off the jets and police choppers before dying But it was a single player game and I wasn't ruining anyone's game

[@xd3athclawx554]

@@kobejones56 the best part of cheating in single player games is that if it is too hard for you and you would rather it be easier than learn to get better, you can just make it easier. Its kind of why I like celeste's assist mode. Its built in cheats to help you still have fun with the game. Do I personally use it? no, but at least it is there for the people who would want it.

[@g0ldenant]

they cheat because they want to be good at a game but they dont want to put in any time or effort. they just want to be good from the start

[@Wootmanwashere]

@@xd3athclawx554 I appreciate cheats that ease grindy sections of games or simplify things that are just time sinks. If it cuts a particularly expensive recipe in half or something? I'm fine with it. Cuts down crafting time? It's nice. It's why I love survival games with heavy customization options. I don't really care about how other people play, I wanna get the most out of my time, so 'cheating' is how I do it. I won't do it with multiplayer though, minus spawning stuff in to soft harass my friends when we played Stardew.

[@ChristianEldridge-Lollar]

So I get why Overwatch wouldn't have a vote to forfeit, but there should be a vote to draw for situations like cheaters.

[@Hoodini2253]

Or a vote to kick him out and pause the game so it turns into a skirmish untill someone else fills his place

[@pedromonteiro4292]

Or like LoL where the match instantly stops when a cheater is found and you go back to the main menu with no penalty + priority queue

[@kaiseremotion854]

@@Hoodini2253 every lobby would abuse it vs streamers

[@Alasor31]

I think ban waves make sense with bog standard aimbots. I think allowing spin-botting to roam free is a totally different animal.

[@hellmaker3]

Hinestly fuck it. Let them play the game, throw them in a cheaters queue, stop banning them entirely, and let them ego each other. They're gonna keep making new accounts, so why fucking bother banning them anymore.

[@AnD1262]

all this accomplishes is spin botting not being an option on cheat programs, ban waves are used to catch the creators off guard, you do not want the creators of the cheats to know what catches them. If spin botting initially flags the account but you investigate it and find other indicators you can block more people

[@TristanBowers0919]

16:56 "The ego is insane!" *Cheater proceeds to nod in agreement*

[@iamthelobo]

Maybe they should like... do something about this.

[@big_brain34]

i got perm ban bc i was playin dps lucio IN QUICK PLAY GAME l.

[@Sir_Bratze]

@@big_brain34 its blizzards mission to ban everything but cheaters. i got a 1 month suspension because i told people to stop afk and play the game. no insults, nothing. their feelings were still hurt so i had to be punished

[@djangomatador9442]

If people keep playing they have no reason to do nothing

[@shaark1tsune]

@@big_brain34 i got permabanned in feb cuz i played on NA servers with my friends, had 300ms. It was Quick play too. played 2 games, stopped cuz it was super laggy. Next morning woke up and saw the ban email. yay!

[@-mako-6018]

with so many people buying the same 3 skin re-colors? hell nah

[@MochiGirl1997]

I just can’t comprehend people who knowingly try hard when they know their teammate is hard cheating. As someone who is also in gold/plat who cares if you lose one game? Like what’s the worse that can happen? You drop from gold 3 to gold 4? One game is not worth enabling a cheater to climb higher.

[@deijix]

Some people are just as pathetic as cheaters but are too scared to cheat and lose their accounts. But they still want that easy win so they play stupid or shamelessly don’t care so they can rise the ranks and feel a false sense of accomplishment over a video game that isn’t as popular as it was 5 years ago. It’s really sad

[@wicked5999]

I don't even try to draw, I try my best to fucking lose if I got a cheater on my team lmao, the opponent isn't the enemy team anymore it's the cheater

[@Hoodini2253]

Everyone should just immediately go mei and lifeweaver and constantly block him and pull the cheaters away

[@Dirtbaghealer]

or, maybe, just maybe, Blizzard should have a team that investigates things like this and removes games with cheaters from peoples history that way they dont have to throw a game. Stop acting like just because someone has a cheater on their team they should lose... no, Blizzard should be taking action against them.

[@ElysePurgatory]

​@@Dirtbaghealer or just try to draw and if its not possible why should you tryhard and help the cheater to win the game? Why are people so scared to lose in a Video Game 💀? Sure, blizzard should take care of this problem - its hilarious that people like this guy are still out there what means the anti-cheat is a joke. But as a community we should stay together and fight this cheaters who are trying to ruin the game for us. Would you like it when there is a cheater in the enemy team and they are tryharding and help the cheater to win?

[@Tilleyforever44]

I think the reason more people noticed in the lower ranks is because hitting your shots makes you stand out a lot more in plat and below. A diamond widow is somewhat expected to get some decent clicks so it takes longer to realize, though I agree some of those were egregious. I think the submitter for the last one was the Juno on the other team and they weren’t getting killed quite as much.

[@haziedaisyyt7836]

The Hanzo t bagging was peak

[@Venant91182]

Just to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, some people do practice a very advanced aiming technique where you use a belt sander as your mousepad.

[@VVheeli]

Ban waves are the correct MASS ban method, yes. But there should be some sort of a manual ban system that’s done between the ban waves, so even if you can’t detect the software cheats you can ban people for having egregiously visual hacks like this. Hell, if the OW team really wanted to drum up content and engagement while cheaters are still happening, let the content creators in on the cheat detection. Make a whole gameshow about banning idiots that can’t get out of bronze without spin-botting. I’d kill to see an OW dev sit down every week and go through replays with Emongg and Flats to see who to instantly ban.

[@ruemaroo6452]

Spin-botting Sojourn is my new sleep paralysis demon. I'll just be laying in bed thinking about that SpongeBob line "He's just standing there... menacingly" while Sojourn drills a hole through my floor just by spinning.

[@arc2641]

There isn’t a bigger letdown than Overwatch’s report system. It’s so fucking infuriating when I run into 4 cheaters in the same day, report all of them and NONE of them get banned. Yet the moment I get into even a minor argument or obvious banter with my teammates or the enemies, I immediately get slapped with a comms silence, which later evolved into a fucking suspension because I said,”never play support again, I will personally uninstall the game for you” to a support duo who spoke shit to my duo for underperforming on DPS despite

[@Hoodini2253]

This game is all about taking every insult ppl give you, but if you even THINK of simply defending urself, YOU get banned and they don’t. It’s pathetic

[@dragonmaster951753]

Apex is in the running for a worse system. They cheat during live competition

[@peqnii3404]

@@Hoodini2253reminds me of school bullying policies. if you stand up for yourself you get suspended lol. the interactive scoreboard changes have been very lovely for quickly muting people i don't like.

[@Jarool21]

It's easier to read some chats for hundreds of chat reports than to watch, possibly, multiple games for one cheating report. Their system is lacking.

[@muhammadsyahalfikri_0563]

3:20 What even the point of ulting bro. Your cheat performs better 😭

[@JacobLeex]

we live in a time where people get banned for toxicity in a day or two yet cheaters are more tolerated

[@AC_Milan1899]

Yeah like you can do a g**ocide against a people and nothing happens. Yet if you call them naz*s you get arrested.

[@Sanas_Shy_Language]

Even just a simple "Damn, you shoulda touched point" can get you banned, but not spinbotting!

[@CFH_333]

Whats funny is that you can get banned faster for talking shit or being "toxic" faster than you can using cheats

[@aperturehela4976]

12:00 that kill on the hanzo was so comical to me

[@correa223]

Im just gonna say what it is. It's embarrassing. Blizzard should be embarrassed. Not by the fact that people are cheating. They should be embarrassed by how blatant and prolific cheaters can be with no reprocussions. I get the war on cheaters is a game of cat and mouse. However, even a lazy cat will catch a mouse that fucks around as hard as these cheaters are. Their monetization model is shameless. But Blizzards' complacency in the face of cheaters is downright shameful.

[@stevenwolf3238]

People ximming in my ranked console games get away with it but I say "you're a mean loser" twice in a day and I am now banned for 2 weeks

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

Turn off chat lmao

[@stevenwolf3238]

@@weirdeurasianboy8091 Yeah but it's funny

[@Eao-er9zp]

Me too bro, told my team we lost cause they didn't play for point and the very next day, boom I was SILENCED for 13 days.

[@wicked5999]

what's your rank

[@MinoriGaming]

I'm fairly confident that the ego is mostly an act. Their real priority is to make people angry and acting like a cocky piece of shit is a really effective way to rile people up.

[@azeplayt4546]

Put the cheaters into queue with other cheaters, increase their queue times, lower the damage, implement random "lag" spikes, mess up their sound so they think that their PC is broken, and then you can do the ban waves...

[@issyaboyr873]

"its gonna be a long one" and its 20 minutes

[@plantnat1]

He was talking to the twitch chat? Do you realize that these videos are clipped and cut to make it shorter?

[@swimm3rcity]

It's bc this is initially a livestream. That he then clips and edits into Shorter videos for KZbin.

[@swimm3rcity]

​@@plantnat1don't gotta b rude it's every1s first time alive, maybe he didn't know.

[@bubblepopgrm]

You make me feel smart

[@inherentlyflawed]

⁠@@plantnat1then why did the editor leave it in? If the editor knew he was gonna cut the vod down to be more digestible then why did he choose to leave flats saying “this is gonna be a long one”.

[@GrieverIIDX]

2:47 I recorded a comp game like that back in ow1 "Teammate plays sad guitar while some guy deranks his bots." Enemy team was just bots moving around enough to not get kicked. The music in the background is legit a guy on hot mic playing guitar while we wait for the game to finish.

[@Manacra13]

For the stats nerds out there, 16 kills in 3 minutes is an average of 53.3 per 10…. Blizzard: Nothing suspicious here. 😗

[@TheKnifeKing-gl4hi]

5:30 tbh getting people to do literally any play together in low metal ranks is literally impossible, let alone making everyone stop pushing after first point to draw a push game. Gold players are more determined to flame their teammates and pick their noses whilst playing. Not saying that you shouldn’t draw games like these, but it’s wayyy easier in GM/top 500 lobbies

[@thatmemeguy2520]

what OW2 needs is a vote to draw option where u need to have atleast 8 votes from the teams to auto end the match with a draw

[@basiclee7498]

Idk how games just don't have something hard coded in, to detect the spinning and even accuracy. You could just look at the average accuracy and if your accuracy is to high for to long (ie 3 games) then you get banned. Even headshots could be tracked, I imagine.

[@oscarblade90]

Some people like to spin just for fun and to show off their mouse, and cheaters can shoot a wall 50 times on purpose to lower accuracy. It's not quite that simple unfortunately

[@arkkon2740]

​@@oscarblade90 spin-botting is for prolonged amounts of time though. If you have a guy who's spinning for like a second every now and again, thats a lot less time compared to another player consistently hitting headshots while constantly spinning their mouse for multiple minutes a game

[@xd3athclawx554]

@@arkkon2740 what does spin botting even do though, its just aimbot but you spin to make your screen all sicky. but yeah I think it should be have X rotational speed in X direction for X amount of time = account flag or ban.

[@heyyou9903]

​@@xd3athclawx554in an attempt to hide the head hitbox is what it does is my guess. Other than that idk it doesn't protect against anything if you're trying to use Rein shield at least lol

[@arkkon2740]

@@heyyou9903 I think its about more accurate hits and constant scanning. There's less time aiming and more time shooting since its probably aiming in whatever direction the enemy is anyway

[@damon6086]

That gold player should just admit they wanted the win.

[@silvarrensol8370]

Would pay money for the Pay-per-View fight between Flats and Thor.

[@noahodum9737]

i'm so fucking tired of hearing "does it pass the eye test" because blizzard does not employ a single person to actually review reports. It is entirely an automated system that operates on its own. Data requests take a minimum of 24 hours, and usually 72 hours in my experience.

[@Sanas_Shy_Language]

Except this guy has been out here for months supposedly at this point and is still not banned.

[@reis4699]

By the way, something I noticed is that when they were using soldier the second they started using visor. They stopped using the aim bot, but the second visor stopped it turned back on

[@kppkvlogcast]

im like 90% sure i played against this guy in qp once. He was on widow and he decimated our team in like a microsecond

[@ItzSpritz]

I’m on console and while I don’t ever experience aim botting, the Smurfs in this game is unreal. I’ve played rocket league for 9 years and have seen only a handful of smurfs. Maybe one every other month. In OW, it’s one every other night

[@badasscrusader]

One every night? I get one every other game

[@kuramagayming4519]

Instead of aimbotting they just abuse ximming

[@cocofish6685]

​@@kuramagayming4519 just join the party gang 😎

[@djangomatador9442]

​@@badasscrusaderit's freaking ridiculous

[@wicked5999]

I rarely see smurfs, and even more rarely see ximmers, idk what people are on about man

[@jaybee4694]

@18:06 The owls. That’s WHOOOO is giving them the benefit of the doubt. 😂

[@ravenbeetle3339]

10:27 the fact that they waited to spin bot until the checkpoint was capped. I think that was an intentional move by them.

[@jacobhughes1957]

Dude said “Beep Boop” and did the animation in real life. I’m dead 💀😂😂

[@Cdr.GU4RD14N]

Bro his widow gameplay reminds me of the sniper bots from TF2 Honestly insane how blizzard just allows this

[@UberNinjaMaterMC]

Fun fact, you CAN draw in clash as well as Flashpoint and KotH. After about 5.5-6.5 minutes of nobody capturing the objective, the game will simply just draw. Even if you win a round or cap a few points, it will still draw if nobody caps after that amount of time. The time varies depending on the map and whether anyone contests point

[@Finn-wc8nq]

4:27 the rein rly staring like “I know what you are” 😂

[@sussydababy9548]

I love how one reference to Kurt Cobain will get ya silenced but spinning at mach fuck for 5 minutes straight is reasonable.

[@ant5946]

the first guy shouldve reported him for being toxic in voice chat, he probably wouldve been banned already

[@kaiz0099]

Had no idea the spin thing was a hack. I like to spin in excitement when i own with zarya, makes sense why people act weird towards me. Shame people like this exist.

[@noahodum9737]

Flats, the report system does not work based on number of reports. It works as: # of games reported / games played (minimum of x games played) = # of incidents per game. When you break a threshold of games played whether its cheating, toxicity, spam, or throwing, THAT is when the account gets actioned

[@Xport9]

I love this series. Keep it up, broski!

[@dawnwarrior3087]

Seriously, Blizzard needs to pull a Bungie or a Nintendo and just sue the companies making the cheats since it should be against their T.O.S. It will at least slow them down and put a little fear of there are consequences for these actions.

[@Desgaroth]

dude that costs money and takes even longer than the obvious solutions to the problem. they could just implement mechanics that the community can use to take care of cheaters like when the majority votes against them they get kicked out of the game, OR they will just not be able to shoot anymore and are perma hacked, making them completely useless. They could also put cheaters that got reported too often in a cheater only matchmaking, where noone else but cheaters will queue.

[@orppranator5230]

@@DesgarothA long term solution to a long term problem obviously is going to take more time and money, yes.

[@SleepingRightNow12]

everyday im more and more suprised i havent ever seen a rage hacker in my history of playing overwatch

[@Burrito-b3r]

I honestly feel for the guy that thought it was just maybe a smurf before realizing the guy was cheating, overwatch mid ranks like gold to diamond are infested with smurfs that will bully you if you accuse them of cheating. I've come across a bap that hit headshots only with my whole team accuse him just to be an annoying smurf, its really frustrating and a lot of people don't even bother accusing not to look stupid.

[@thecasualgamer2811]

Idk if this means anything on PC, but my buddy and I have grandfathered ow1 accounts on our Xbox accounts and the last week we've been getting messaged over and over again about "the value of our account" and how people want to buy it. So that could be how these bronze accounts are getting bought. Idk how that works on the PC though

[@butteranbread1861]

I played with this person, they played echo. My team didn’t believe me until the final round for some reason. This was like 2 weeks ago too and I reported them then so it’s kinda wild to know they’re out here still going in

[@Emmaria_]

With the comment on how to draw Push maps, I swear I had this happen accidentally once where both teams got the checkpoint and no further, but it started permanent overtime until one team pushed a centimeter, rather than resulting in a draw.

[@georgioszampoukis1966]

As a Machine Learning Engineer, it still bogles my mind that no company has implemented server side mouse movement analysis / classification using AI models yet. They have sooo much data to train such models that it would work like a charm. Current anti-cheat solutions are extremely complicated, they hugely invade your system and can be still easily bypassed by skillful developers. A server side classification model for malicious players would solve all these issues, yet there is not even a hint that companies are at least trying to implement such an approach. There are cheats that mimic human mouse movement but instances such as this are extremely easy to detect and should be instantly banned.

[@Gracemopy]

when flats speed up when he was talking about moving up the ranks cought me off gaurd omg i cant stop laughing

[@savannahb6893]

My buddies had 7 cheaters 2 games in a row. 3 accounts had been banned previous game and the game before that, 4 accounts were banned. No names, accounts had been wiped. Pretty sad the amount of cheaters, but at least they were caught within 24hrs of being reported

[@athena-love]

This guy doesn't get banned for hacking through multiple ranks and dozens of games, but I get banned after being reported, like, twice for saying "fuck".

[@canibiso]

I genuinely don’t understand how this can be fun for them.

[@delaiha]

From the research on the guy's name, it means No Brand, it's a company in South Korea that sells food items, like supermarkets do. Or he just doesn't wanna brand himself.

[@kayleptwomoons1007]

I hate how people forget that Sigma's, Reinhardt's, and Ramattra's shields can block aimbot heatshots from melting their team before they can retaliate. I once watched a whole team lose to a single babtiste when all their tank had to do was swap Rein and throw up a shield to stop his instant support kills.

[@josh6689]

If you have a cheater on your team go mei and lifeweaver, just put wall infront of them constantly and keep pulling them away or off the map,

[@Gamergal116]

The Venn Diagram of people who are okay with cheaters on their team and people who throw out "Cheater" accusations every time they get outplayed is a damn circle.

[@teddyispg]

btw if you didnt know that, only one report per game actually counts. thats why the autoban bot system takes so long. so there are no 9 reports for one game

[@kujas]

I hope we get to see more of this person in ranked.

[@chrisofthehoovers4055]

It's the same over in R6 Siege right now with cheaters, I flat out don't play on PC anymore because of this stuff.

[@jackallope2200]

People need to realize that when Thor was talking about ban waves he wasn't talking about guys like this who flaunt their cheats and get dozens of reports. He's talking about the smaller things like aim-assisters or those bot acounts that you know are bots but don't report. In those cases it isn't player reports but internal cheat detection systems that catch them, which they try to hide the methods of through ban waves

[@erusdearest]

These are the mfs saying “bring toxicity back to Overwatch”.

[@Billy_The_Frog]

Watching a hacker's POV used to be entertaining for me because of how ridiculous the aimlock is, but now i just feel sick because its becoming so common and it seems like they aren't getting banned at all. Especially those that openly cheat like this dude, in ranked no less.

[@agentmaryland1239]

You know what's even sadder? They're probably at least a Platinum level player without cheats, they're just trying to cheat their way to the top now. But they might bottom out at Masters, late Diamond (if we're lucky) before the ban wave washes them away.

[@springfieldhockey07]

its always funny when a aimbot cheater uses soldier and shoots worse using his alt

[@ku2994]

OW2 needs to simplify the report system. There should just be two report options: "Offensive Communication" and "Offensive Gameplay". Set a threshold based on reports received per x number of games for each that flags the account for AI review. AI review the "Offensive Communication" by checking chat and audio files. AI review the "Offensive Gameplay" by looking for statistical anomalies in their match history. Should be a completely separate process from ban waves.

[@somewhereundergroundpodcas8425]

That "excuse me" at 17:55 took me out 🤣

[@rivefall6845]

That tracer gameplay was just like watching sugar free or any other pro tracer player but without the hacks 😂

[@ManfoGaming]

The fact that two of my brother have been banned for raging in chat before this guy is insane

[@BrosTheNugget]

I still think there needs to be a way that makes the cheater's life hell mid match. Turn off their damage so they cant do any damage to enemies, make it so that they take more damage from all sources or reduce their total health, and make it so that the game force draws no matter the actual outcome, and just leave the cheater to decide if they want to be spawn camped and have their fun ruined for another 4 minutes before they're banned, or they leave the game and are banned upon the game finishing off or them leaving. I believe that the best way to keep cheaters from seeking out cheats is to ruin the prospects of having fun while cheating. I know a system like this would be crazy hard to set up, seeing as the current DM system has been on vacation for several seasons now, but it would make me so happy to see cheater vods like this expect all the hits their landing do zero damage and they get farmed all game until they leave and get banned upon leaving lol

[@myatheplaysgames]

these people get to play for months because they will spend money in the blizzard shop while if i complain and dont buy anything i get silenced and suspended for speaking up against cheaters in game. Don't give blizz any money and see how they treat you as a customer.

[@tommywikstrom9100]

The funny/interesting part is that every time i log in to OW2 i get 1-2 "thanks for reporting" notifications (logging in mabe 2-3 times per week). Must be that they are just understaffed with all these hackers since it became free to play.

[@Mexican00b]

the fact the indie company is not able to find those hackers is amazing!

[@Spluge_McDucktv]

I think a lot of the difficulty comes from the fact that there are just so many cheaters that you can't go through manually and review anything. And with how good some people actually are, mechanically, it becomes difficult to write something that can actually tell the difference every time. It becomes a really bad thing if some of your best mechanical players start getting banned because the anticheat detected they were too good. That being said I dont understand how someone with a literal 100% headshot accuracy every game, while spinning at enough RPM to drill through concrete doesn't get picked up and dealt with. That is inexcusable.

[@discodog18]

i hate cheaters but seeing a hanzo/genji lose makes me happy call me a psycho

[@pitchatan]

Last time i reported someone was 2months ago, which in that case was a hard locking sombra with an account wide 75-80% accuracy... TODAY i got a "thank you" message for reporting said player. As for detecting spin botters... CSGO / CS modders solved that issue years ago with serverside mods. Essentially you are checking for extensive rotations and abnormally high accuracies... which should be fairly logical as you are not going to run around with 80% accuracy while spinning at 1500rpm for the entirety of a match.

[@Tonypollyoly]

I hate some of the Thor videos. People just take what he says as fact because they look at him as some authority. He worked on a game that some people would argue had the worst botting problems in gaming when he was there. Plenty of games ban players MIDMATCH, including overwatch's latest competitor deadlock, who will let you turn cheaters in your lobby into frogs so you can mess with them before cancelling the match and reversing any mmr loss.

[@sumisu_senpai_6280]

Wait, is the Deadlock frog thing true? That's amazing lol

[@Tonypollyoly]

@@sumisu_senpai_6280 yeah it gives players currently in the game an option to just end the game or turn the cheater into a frog for a bit. Where they can’t do anything but hop around and die, you can look up videos of it on KZbin

[@Foodrunn3r]

What goes through the minds of these cheaters? How do they think they're "great" when they already did the most stupidest thing they could do, which is to pay money for cheats on a f2p game

[@matthewbennett4850]

Blizzard should add a draw option for modes like clash and escort, its unfair for both sides. Whether you have a hacker or someone trolling, there should still be an option to have a stalemate since it defeats the satisfaction of playing ranked

[@DiegoMS]

I think at the very least they played 70 games, assuming a 25% gain of rank to be generous and if they started silver 5. 4 games per rank, 5 ranks per division, 3 divisions, still not banned. Unreal.

[@StrimClocks]

Thor's ban wave needs context into which he is speaking. He did bans in World of Warcraft which is an MMORPG. Botting to grind l is different from aim-botting. One ruins the game progression while the other ruins another person's day. I got this wrong when I first heard it, but now have a better understanding.

[@3AnxiousFerretsInATrenchcoat]

Automation and "ai" is the worst thing to happen to sevices, change my mind. Thousands of ceo's just seeing "hey, this thing does it automatically, why would we need any employees? More money!" Has resulted in every single fking company on the planet having any and all support lines being completely automated, resulting in absolutely useless support lines. So many games eliminating all community support, prefering to just get automated, off the shelf anticheat and never bothering to see if it's actually working. I mean, it's already established fact at this point that the only way you can get any actual support for 99% of large companies is to raise enough of a stink on twitter to get a larger content creator to notice you and boost your call to aid. It's fking pathetic