I Spent 8 Hours Researching the 2024 Coding Job Market

[@LuceGrey-gg3sy]

Honestly, this getting a job thing doesn't work easily without connections 😢

[@ahevjadon2387]

You are right 💯 , my current job cost me $2000 to get after i was job frustrated for years . Now I earn 7k monthly so I can't relate 😅

[@annabelledaniel5315]

$2k paid connection isn't bad for a good paying job bro .. I would pay if I find one 😢

[@Good_health220]

​@@ahevjadon2387 would you want to share ? I really need a job , I'm a Python pro , lost my former job and its been hard to get another 😢

[@Good_health220]

​@@ahevjadon2387 would you want to share ? I really need a job , I'm a Python pro , lost my former job and its been hard to get another 😢

[@ahevjadon2387]

Of course, he is on I. G

[@calmhorizons]

The decline in the job market has virtually nothing to do with AI. Which is being used as a convenient smokescreen. The reality is that most tech companies were built for and around an economy with extremely (as in, historically) low-interest rates. That world is now gone, and a market correction was inevitable. In that correction the big players cut jobs since they now have to spend more cash servicing debts and R&D - the small players die in droves because they can no longer borrow money easily and cheaply, and also because big investors can suddenly make returns in safer parts of the market (bonds et al.) rather than gambling on tech firms, which only made sense when returns elsewhere were zero.

[@iancoles1349]

Ask Bill

[@SesterSinmon]

Wow the only smart comment here and I studied for economics......High inflation is devastating for Tech!

[@iancoles1349]

@SesterSinmon killed the Roman Empire and can do the same to countries.Inflation high interest rate not good all round doom.

[@SesterSinmon]

@@iancoles1349 Oh yeah the financial collapse is nigh!!! Troy is doomed.....if you know what I mean!

[@conundrum2u]

interesting take. I've said/thought/known for a while now that the economy was certainly to blame but I didn't think about the interest rate perspective. AI is definitely not to blame and it won't be for many years. you can guide it to write boilerplate and now with Gemini you can have it look at your code and make services based on what you've already written but it's still not writing unique/new code for new features. that takes human pattern recognition and old fashioned research to decide how it's all put together

[@bjni]

Ok so I live in Tokyo, and if you know Japanese its EXTREMELY easy to find an entry level job, its unlike the silicon valley tech bubble, over here coding and programming was NEVER glorified to that extent, the image of a rich coder IS NOT A THING over here. when people think about high paying nice jobs they are thinking about being a dentist or a doctor, or a business person. What I mean is, in a lot of these companise they hire people with 0 experience and no degree and train them from 0. of course there are better jobs that hope for more experience but they are open for entry level and even people that have only done freelance. its always interesting to see the panic in the job market in NA and seeing the stark contrast we have over here.

[@DiegoSanchez-cf7oi]

Hi @bjni do you know any website like Glassdoor but focused on Japan software engineers market? Thank u Psdt: I work as a Mid-Frontend developer

[@bjni]

@@DiegoSanchez-cf7oi yeah its called indeed. tens of thousands of open positions. go for it.

[@bjni]

@@DiegoSanchez-cf7oi btw this is for the local market not international companise hiring abroad, so you will need to know Japanese

[@nizammokhtar86]

Agreed. They are lacking employees with Japanese skill

[@yashsharma-td6ii]

​@bjni if one can learn Japanese then we can be hired right ??

[@DrFish547]

"10 - 20 applications per day" I feel like the guy who who made this statement has zero idea of the job market situation. Alot of open positions have lengthy annoying job application processes that could take an hour to complete. And even if you do e.g 5 per day, you'd burn yourself out real quick and leave zero time for preparing yourself for the interviews. The only way to really stand out is to message recruiters and reach out to your network! Honestly, most of my success so far has been from that.

[@elenakusevska6266]

I agree. More than 5 applications a day, and you burn out. You can't look at requirements and fill out forms anymore, it all looks the same... plus testing, interviews...

[@JosephM1M5A4]

You’re soft

[@andresoares2110]

What's your linkedin? I'd like to connect

[@moonbiscuit8742]

Also tailor the resumes to the employers need, which you have no ideea what's it about.

[@nickbrunoro8604]

Combined with tailoring your resume, and working a minimum wage job to be able to live its extremely difficult and you’re setting yourself up for burnout

[@osmanbajraktarevic833]

It’s no question that a lot more people are turning away from learning code - which is a good thing for current people that have passion for it and current graduates. It definitely filters out a ton of people that want to learn it just for the money aka bad developers or engineers

[@osmanbajraktarevic833]

So subsequently means in the near future it shouldn’t be so crazy over saturated that it makes getting hired as hard

[@banjoowo4001]

Coding won't be a skill anymore, In the age of Ai coding would be easy as writing ABC

[@osmanbajraktarevic833]

@@banjoowo4001 highly disagree. It’s a very complex issue and ai will just be used as a tool. Think of it this way, by the time software engineers are out out of jobs- every other career field except maybe healthcare would be in an even worse position.

[@starogre]

@@banjoowo4001 coding with AI as a tool will be the job that replaces a ton of other jobs who will be 100% replaced by AI unfortunately. you can't just type "make me a HR business" and have AI develop an entire HR platform for you.

[@harald3573]

Agreed. ChatGPT is just an AI Chat Bot, a tool used by anyone. AI and Big Data simplifies things for sure as this tech gets used more and more. But mastering all the fundamentals of Computer Science/Software Engineering and after this projects, job experience is what makes great developers.@@osmanbajraktarevic833

[@anasouardini]

As a web developer, this skill is going to continue taking a nap for at least 1.5 years. Not my tailored resume, not my 20 job applications a day that gave me the job I have right now; it's the number of contacts on my phone, That's it: you know people, you get jobs. It'll take a while to come back, so I highly recommend people not going all in, just keep an eye on trend, but do other things to put food on the table.

[@gamezone65]

How can I develop contacts tho any idea

[@improvisedchaos8904]

can i be your friend?

[@martingg1]

10-20 jobs applications a day? Holy smokes I'm lucky if I find 1-3 job posts a week in my field (android development). Granted, I'm based in Canada and have the feeling the tech industry is exponentially worse out here.

[@agentmikster44]

Yup. If it's bad in the states, it'll be doubly bad here in Canada. Not to mention salary is already much lower compares to the US.

[@SacredDiety]

This goes back to the question of whether or not you’re being picky. Apply to jobs outside of just android development. Get in and get paid and then look for your desired position while you’re already working.

[@tonchozhelev]

​@@SacredDiety That doesn't work, I was working as a mobile developer with Flutter for the past 4 years, so I'm in a similar situation. Since there aren't that many Flutter jobs out there, I've been applying to all sorts of jobs I thought might be interesting, Flutter, native Android, backend, web frontend, you name it... I've probably applied to hundreds of positions by now, so far I've only been invited to 4 interviews, all for Flutter jobs, all dropped me after the first interview... The point is when I apply to jobs with other technologies, I don't even get contacted

[@aldo3g]

Also bad in Mexico, a job post can easily get 40 applicants, as soon as a new open position is opened, there is already 10 applicants or even more during the first hour, market is low, and there is too much offering.

[@ExileEditing]

Exactly this. I can't find any jobs to even apply to. Looking for my first job to get in the door. Everyone says "you're being too picky" or "stop looking for big companies" or "stop looking for the $100k jobs". Man I'm literally looking for any job. I don't even care if I get paid only 10k. I just want to make something for someone to get my foot in the door. I've been learning html, css, react etc... but I can't find anything in Canada that I can actually apply to

[@Codisrocks]

Not evening mentioning the facts here. Talking about applying for jobs like that's how you get one. That's not how it works. Rarely are jobs found through applying. They're almost always found through knowing the right people.

[@edwardmitchell6581]

I know about 6 managers at Capital One. Do I still need to study Leet Code?

[@saurabhs4743]

@@edwardmitchell6581 haha

[@Codisrocks]

@d4qatoa yeah, sure. You're everyone's favorite nobody. What makes you so special?

[@simonaxlz]

I used to bartender in a wealthy family town. I can attest that connections are the way to go. It helps that I stand out, as a blonde female with plenty of personality but I’ve heard nothing but crickets when applying the traditional way.

[@RedFidgetSpinner07-r5b]

@@simonaxlzYou’re also very attractive🧐

[@lokeshr9794]

I graduated in Electronic Engineering back in 2020. I got hired from off campus back in 2021. I only knew HTML, CSS and a little JS that I thought to learn to get Software developer job. Luckily one company was hiring during COVID. I applied, passed the computer based exam. Got mail for technical round. Just after 10min of technical round and 5 min of HR, I got my first job. I was really surprised 😮. Although they pay was average, I never thought any company will hire me. I was so dipressed few months back but I kept pushing myself to learn about Web Dev. It really helped me. Now I have 3 years of experience and I got promoted last month with good pay. I'm so happy 😁.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Get a security clearance with the government and work for a defense company. Otherwise your job will be outsourced to India or replaced by AI.

[@markvrahas5080]

Thanks for posting. And congrats! I hope you are well

[@arun-kumar78]

​@@censoredeveryday3320by his name , I can tell he is an indian😅

[@EHBRod13]

Just a small correction. At min 3:44, the graph showed that the most affected group were those aged 30-40 (~47%) while the second most affected were those aged 20-30 (~35%). This suggests that more senior devs were getting sacked than junior devs.

[@cristianpredescu7557]

Yeah and because of that they come and take any jobs they can find, which means junior positions

[@LionDen]

senior getting sacked: switching to mid level roles jr getting sacked: unemployment

[@0DWalker0]

Or there are more engineers 30-40 than 20-30 hence why the make up a higher % of the overall layoffs. There are definitely more senior eng roles out there than junior.

[@iamkvn]

In other words. The bar has been raised. We gotta do better than what was once acceptable pre pandemic.

[@devslopes]

Exactly!! But don’t let that discourage you🔥

[@j.r.r.tolkien8724]

It should actually discourage you a lot. Statistically we're less likely to get hired. Maybe there's a better chance elsewhere. People have to keep that in mind. @@devslopes

[@angelg3642]

@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 Legit. Many graduates have been searching for job for over a year or working in a highly underpaid or even not paid at all internships 🤦‍♂. But 🔥that shouldn't discourage us 🔥. Mfs out here learning 15 different stacks, creating a new library and still not experienced enough but that shouldn't be discouraging 😂.

[@SweepAndZone]

Spoken like a true nobody ​@@j.r.r.tolkien8724

[@post-humangod2575]

​@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 Although, you have to be realistic but keep in mind if you can't choose yourself above others then nobody is going to do it either.

[@poohshmoo9892]

I've been programmer since 1998 ( 26 years how eh ), I went through Java ( early days ), COBOL, LISP, Fortran, SQL , PL SQL, ASP NET, CSS, Assembly , and whatnot , and of course C/C++ ( still using it today ) ... my 2cents why programmers are the last to lose their jobs .. passing knowledge as programmer is very rare and very hard, i.e. every new person picking coding as their future will go through the same mistakes and solve the same problems over and over as the experience one, this is just the reality ,demand for programmers ( good ones ) only goes up ... and last but not least, what is good programmer, for me is the one that has curiosity, drive to create and desire continue and not give up when is hard ( i.e. bug to fix takes alot of time to find , so one has to improvise )

[@tocu9808]

Programming is actually just part of creating software which is the product of software engineering process. In fact, not everyone has a knack for working as software engineer. Every engineer must be an analytical type of mind and should get to grips well with first principles of the trade, with that level of competency, learning languages, frameworks ... is just a matter of need and/or interest in a life long course of continuous learning. IMO, most of those who are coding now is not really software engineer. There's simply too much excess in tech to carry on. That may be one of the reasons causing current wave of massive tech layoffs.

[@Yeeha494]

But you get valued for the work experience that you have. You know how to solve and translate to a new language much easier than a newer dev. This is more of cause of concern for new dev or fresh grads because they'll be replaced by the mid level devs being fired and being rehired than the new devs. It is the same as: I bought a house in 90s, why can't you buy a house now? when housing prices are 2x that it was back then and the house has depreciated in quality (ie it's older by 20 years).

[@matthewstaana7487]

graduated with an electrical and computer engineering degree and still struggling to get a job😊😊

[@Mohamed_ferdjani]

Are you struggling to get a high paying job or just a ^normal job^ that pays you arround 3k-5k per month ??

[@matthewstaana7487]

@@Mohamed_ferdjani a high paying one. can you list/recommend some ^normal job^

[@Mohamed_ferdjani]

Normal job = i meant a not big tech company I’m not that into coding stuff (+im not fluent in english*) But i was wondering if employers are complaining for not having a high paying job (arround 5k to 15k per month) Or like a normal one (like i’ve told you) ???? ((( im living in 3rd world btw... So 1k-4k per month sounds pretty good )))

[@SacredDiety]

Can’t rely solely on your degree in a field that requires much more than that to get in. If someone who doesn’t have the degree has the technical/soft skills and portfolio desired by a company then they’re probably getting hired over you. Look at what else you could be doing to look attractive to employers so when they see you with the same level skills/portfolio but also the degree to put you over the top, you’ll be who they want.

[@ka-md8ue]

​@@Mohamed_ferdjanipeople are complaining about normal jobs

[@micahburnside2281]

10-20 per day without copy and paste is absolutely insane and not worth it.

[@angelg3642]

Not to mention impossible considering most jobs are for seniors 😂😂. Like at most 5 jobs weekly will be for somewhat junior positions

[@manavkhandurie]

Its always a bluff to talor the resume to every company and simply not possible when the entry level position needs 3+ yrs of experience . You still need to spam send your resume to many many many firms to have a standing chance while still trying to upskill yourself and using LinkedIn for referrals .

[@wwjccsd]

If you're in programming you should be able to automate most of it; hell, google chrome will automate most for you with just autofill. If you can't do even that then maybe you're in the wrong profession.

[@user-tw4kt8du9t]

@@wwjccsd Wait I found the braindead commenter again! I swear to god it just keeps getting better, lets hope i see you as I keep scrolling lmao.

[@DockSchrem]

In my opinion the job market is saturated and many programmers from India and China are operating remotely on western markets. Especially in the states where is no language barrier.

[@RajinderYadav]

no they are not, companies can't just hire oversea, there are so many regulations and restrictions, not to mention isssues with payroll taxes. please stop making stuff up. many companies avoid hiring oversea because of the headaches this causes.

[@JD-vj4go]

​@@RajinderYadav This is not true in USA. It's very easy to outsource work to India and China and in fact it simplifies the paperwork. Most companies use offshore contractors like Infosys or Wipro they don't hire offshore directly.

[@JD-vj4go]

@d4qatoa I didn't say it helped or was better. I said it was happening and is easy for companies to do. Especially companies who use tech but it's not their core business (which is most companies).

[@mcmerry2846]

companies can hire overseas@@RajinderYadav

[@mcmerry2846]

@@RajinderYadav then why most costumer service agents are Indians/Africans/Latinamericans?? because one they can hire them, and they can pay them 5 times less

[@judedavis92]

It's not even that there's not enough job postings. It's that recruiters and team managers are becoming WAY too picky and are requiring everything under the sun to even get looked at. The top engineers know concepts and can adapt to other technologies with that knowledge. But recruiters are becoming too conservative because companies are losing money and can't afford to make the wrong choice. I think this stems strongly from the cost of living.

[@SacredDiety]

True, also the result of an employers market. They want someone who’s been coding in their tech stack for a while but any good developer can pick up any tech stack in no time

[@grenadier4702]

@@SacredDiety Yes, exactly! I also don't understand this thing like "We need a backend developer with a 7 year experience in Java". Why would you need one? I mean why it has to be 7 years with a particular language? What matters is your knowledge in some area, not a technology. As you said, you indeed can pick up any tech stack in no time

[@trentirvin2008]

Working my ass off on a project right now implementing a few AI API’s and rewrote my entire project taking an object oriented approach. I feel like my level of confidence and understanding is skyrocketing

[@HH-xs2gm]

That’s what everyone is doing… more layoffs coming for tech. You chose the wrong major lol

[@sid4579]

@@HH-xs2gm someone's mad that they never gonna get the sweet SWE job and is gate-keeping

[@ExecutionMods]

@@HH-xs2gm projection detected

[@rohit-ld6fc]

this does not help in interviews, interview preparation is completely different!

[@trentirvin2008]

@@rohit-ld6fc did you comment on the right post? Nobody on this thread mentioned interviews whatsoever

[@bennettbullock9690]

Very informative video, but I am going to be a bit contrarian. When people say, "you need to have soft skills", it's time to leave. Yes, programmers tend to lack soft skills, and that can be quite annoying, but when I hear that I think, "okay, my ability to turn out good code has been devalued, and I'm going to be paid less and less for the same job." It also says to me that the industry prizes predictable mediocrity over more volatile excellence, and that this is now a job for agreeable but not particularly interesting or intellectually ambitious people. Given how corrupt technical interviews tend to be - you have to be smart but you can't ever be smarter than the interviewer - this video is telling me that the problem has only gotten worse.

[@jimmyjakes1823]

My rebuttal to that would be that you're just writing computer code, ok? You're not Mozart or Beethoven. The vast majority of programmers aren't doing anything particularly important in their jobs, and there are very few programmers who are irreplaceable. If you're that good then why would you need a wage slave job in the the first place? Nobody wants to spend their working days with some asshole or weirdo if they don't have to. Life is too short for that.

[@bennettbullock9690]

@@jimmyjakes1823 Completely agree. I believe that the profession failed to learn basic standards for interactions, and it has weakened us. I make a point of being considerate to the people I work with, and I get very annoyed when this isn't reciprocated. However, for a good part of my career I had to work remotely from abroad, and this not only halved my wages but locked me out of a lot of more lucrative opportunities. So, although I am a perfectly nice person, it was "as if" I didn't have the soft skills required, and I had to sell myself on skill alone - delivering working code in abnormally short amounts of time. I even wrote a programming language to help with rapid prototyping. So when I hear that skills are losing their market value, I head for the door.

[@FairyLotusUnicorn]

​@@jimmyjakes1823. ......you are definitely not a programmer if you think half of these people talk to each other or see the light of day. How are soft skills required in a job that requires virtuslly no talking. Send an email, request something, programmer begins coding. No talking whatsoever. Who cares if the programmer is a jerk when you dont see, hear or talk to them? Ever. You wouldnt even know it. As for the rest of your comment, im not even sure you know half of what programmimg is. The programming langusges, ai. Etc didnt magically appear out of thin air. Programners created that.

[@jimmyjakes1823]

@@FairyLotusUnicorn Where'd I say programmers don't write programming languages, etc? I obviously didn't. I get that you've worked yourself into some autistic fit over my comment, but what's your point? I don't consider not being an asshole to the people you work with or acting stupid in public to be soft skills. Those are base level human requirements, and if you don't have them no one wants to be around you much less work with you. If you work 100% remote and your personality doesn't cause any work issues then, fine, I'd agree that's it's not an issue.

[@ExplorewithZac]

I'm sorry but the fact is that for many companies, the job application process can take several hours. It is simply not possible to send 10-20 applications per day. 5-10 maybe.

[@ka-md8ue]

Easy apply on LinkedIn, I applied to 400+ companies, and got the job

[@TW0man4RMY]

If you cant send out 20 job applications a day as a programmer, then you need to find another field to be in.

[@wwjccsd]

I have yet to see a single job application that requires more than 10 minutes to complete. Maybe there is some senior level developer one that actually submitting code for a problem but most don't even do that.

[@brentjones1660]

I guarantee you aren’t a programmer lmao

[@marko5734]

Very good analysis, realistic and with in depth explanation.

[@devslopes]

I appreciate this! I hope everything resonated well!!

[@maryrodriguez1972]

If you are tailoring your resume and cover letter each time, There is no way you can get 10 - 20 of those done in a day. Tailoring takes an hour for each job application. I think this is an unrealistic expectation.

[@JosephM1M5A4]

You’re slow

[@maryrodriguez1972]

@JosephM1M5A4 I graduated from a bootcamp and meet up and talk to graduates like myself about their job hunting experience and I assure you I'm not the only one that feels like this is about the same amount of time it takes multiple people who are trying to apply unless they are massively doing easy applies and skipping tailoring. Unless you have some sort of advice for tailoring faster since you feel like I'm "slow" your comment doesn't benefit me or anyone going through weeks or months of being unemployed.

[@semyongaivoronskiy447]

Same. With all the search and tailoring CVs and cover letters to each job position I feel lucky the days when I could apply to 5-7 jobs 😕

[@HE360]

And I'd always say to anybody if one doesn't succeed in the tech field and STILL have a hard time finding a job no matter what you do and no matter how great your resume is, etc. but you still need a job, you can always come drive a bus. It's where if you got a CDL (where you might have to study a bit, but it isn't hard to get. And it's like a driving car and/or driving for Uber). In my field there is no competition in landing a job; my field is actually UNDERSATURATED; there's hardly any hoops to jump through in getting job unlike in tech. Plus, the it's great pay, great benefits, you get treated with respect and not treated like you're just a number, you won't have to compete with people, you won't have to worry about A.I., bad economy, or none of that. Plus, it's fun traveling around! Driving a bus can be as fun as playing a video game. And I don't work that many hours either. In fact, I get 5 hours breaks each day and on my break, THAT'S when I do things in tech like make (or play) video games/develop websites; I go out to my favorite restaurant, or do whatever else I want to do, or I'd just go to sleep until it's time to work again. Plus, I get lots of days of and my job is EASY!! Days off?? I just came back from a week in Mexico!!! And I'm planning to go to Thailand soon too. So, this is something else to think about too if you get tired of all of the hoopla, trials, tribulations, doormat treatment that which nobody deserves in tech!

[@trechosdelivros4445]

I live in Brazil. Here bus driver cant sustain your own family.

[@DockSchrem]

It is so true. :) I read an article today. In Bulgaria the bus drivers in city of Sofia, the capital in Bulgaria earn 150% of the average salary in Sofia.

[@ImWatchingYou69]

Shit job with shit pay though. $24/hour in Los Angeles... in Los Angeles!!! Totally criminal. I made that at some entry level data entry job where I did like 2 hours of actual work a day lol. Might as well just go become a plumber or drive trucks at that point. At least you get paid.

[@jgharston]

Yeah, being alive costs money, so I need money, if people won't pay me to do what I'm skilled and competant at, I've been taking jobs quite literally moving furniture. Because Food. Costs. Money. You then run into the brick wall of recruiters saying: why are you applying for the development job? Your CV says your last job was moving furniture. **** off.

[@eprisrichardson678]

I can't lie, this is a bit discouraging. I'm mid-level and was laid off last summer. I've had 1 interview. ONE! Several recruiters have reached out then ghosted. I'm struggling to keep up with requirements. I might have to become serious with pivoting into data science. I don't hear about them being laid off and I want to work with numbers more anyways.

[@andreypodvysotskiy8048]

Data science got hit just as hard if, not harder than SWE. Data engineering roles seem to have faired a bit better.

[@omidvahabnejad6354]

Data science has been hit hard too - a lot of companies are advertising data science jobs but really are data analyst jobs and visa versa

[@eprisrichardson678]

@@omidvahabnejad6354 Good to know that about the job postings. Thank you!

[@ci6516]

I don’t understand how a mid level couldn’t immediately jump into data engineering or data analysis

[@eprisrichardson678]

@@omidvahabnejad6354 Idk what happened to my reply to you. I can't see it, so sorry if this hits you twice. But thanks for the info about job postings. That'll be really helpful once I make the switch.

[@Kaelnorth]

Me after got layoff from game developer, i have computer science degree and have 8+years game design and ui/ux design experience. Its really hard to find 300usd a month remote work. Yes you hear it right 300 usd a month is really hard. 😢

[@bharath2508]

I am searching for a job from last 12 months. I need a remote react development job. I am a fresher. Don't you dare ask me for experience. Enough is enough.

[@RoadSigns19]

Same I was laidoff in March 23 with only 8 months experience and getting rejections

[@danny5534]

nice video - but i think you left out a really important variable which is how many people are trying to become programmers. imo programming (due to the ease of access) is facing the opposite problem as the medical industry: over-saturation. ive heard this from several people, computer science programs in several schools have become very large because many kids are expecting to graduate with a bachelors degree and immediately get a high paying job. unfortunately this no longer seems to be the case :(

[@devslopes]

Many people are for sure wanting to be developers - but very few actually get there.

[@m-ok-6379]

I have never seen a 40+ year old junior developer and here we are where bootcamp programs tell anybody can become a rockstar developer for a small fee.

[@goldbrick2563]

Maybe you just havent seen one yet...i have never seen a person under 30 switch careers

[@m-ok-6379]

@@goldbrick2563 I have never seen 40+ year old junior developer at places I worked which were agencies, finance, and research.

[@Lisekplhehe]

I've worked with one in 2021 i think, but he got dropped as soon as the company got slightest finantcal trouble.

[@cranes2726]

Small?😂

[@KasK6517]

I'm 36 and looking to switch my career from a firefighter to a programmer but it's so hard to even get an interview after applying to so many open positions. I always have this fear in the back of my head that if i leave my currnt job for something in tech, ill get let go and be screwed.

[@PetrSpevak]

Greetings from Czech Republic, Central Europe! I think the layoffs did not touch us as much as in USA. Anyway, this is the best video on this topic I have seen. Thank you very much.

[@Ab-cj6gl]

Is it possible to land a job in Czech republic without speaking the language?

[@TrunxKraft3000]

If no one is hiring you, but you have engineering skills, NOW is a great time to start your OWN tech company. Get 2 or 3 of your other programmer friends in a room, brainstorm some ideas for a service you can offer, and do it! You never know what you could build between now and this time next year.

[@TrunxKraft3000]

@AashishTelgote-zx4wp The “money to start a company” thing doesn’t always apply to every type of business. Sometimes you just have to use what you have to get to where you want. In 2024 there are so many resources and platforms to offer your services on. And then, when you’re doing it with a team of people, you can be highly productive and profitable. I think the industry shift is forcing people to be creative. There are a few people i personally know that taught themselves how to code, and make well over six figures doing contract work, just from knowing Python/JUCE.

[@jimmyking92]

Endless funds are over pal, so is entrepreneurship for the masses.

[@Lisekplhehe]

With those interest rates and inflation, you most likely won't get any funding.

[@grandmasterb7398]

Disneyland advice. Only seeing sunshine. Most like to give Disneyland advice without warning about the risks. There's always a price to pay.

[@TrunxKraft3000]

@@grandmasterb7398 And I’m sure with some work and consistency it will happen. I’ve seen it done.

[@LilyJade-ye7qh]

At this point it's not even worth it...

[@marko_z_bogdanca]

Man, your conclusion comes down to a simple thing. Jobs are mainly available for senior positions and you can not write a good code when you are just starting...

[@GeraldBosley-cf8ng]

I would like to see data on how these layoffs overlap with other market data such as fed rates, market caps etc. In other words, how was the market performing quantitatively during this period and how can we decide when the market is doing well enough to consider prospective job openings for tech. That's something that almost nobody on the web is taking into consideration.

[@KayderimGameplays]

I stopped caring at this point, i don't think i'll ever find anything, i'll just do what i can to get by and hope things gets better in some months / years

[@random_nick_for_comments]

Everybody needs to stand out from the crowd... Wait a minute...

[@devslopes]

Hahahhaha😂

[@griffinkirkland9087]

hehehe, then the stand out become the new crowd

[@tocu9808]

Stand out and farther from each other.

[@KumarRajput-v2t]

Tech is no more a promising career , it's only the beginning of 2024 and we have seen layoffs and job cuts it's going to be tough in future.

[@Lisekplhehe]

You thought that it's just gonna stop once we hit january?

[@KumarRajput-v2t]

@@Lisekplhehe Nope talking about the big picture here that it's not gonna be much promising in future.

[@Lisekplhehe]

@@KumarRajput-v2t When there is a crisis people affected always think its going to be the end of times. I've lived trough a couple of these. It can and probably will get better

[@RajinderYadav]

Wait till AI hits

[@ci6516]

Do you live in a bubble it’s all industries . My job while in school js driving a forklift for a major trucking company , it’s been slower than average since Covid hit . All industries are slowed down , interest rates are much too high for investment . You guys need to think beyond tech for your answers

[@kirill4531]

Don't listen to a biased opinion. This guy makes money on juniors, right? I would better listen to some business owners and maybe recruiters

[@89kylestyle]

Yeah, this is an important point to consider.

[@micahburnside2281]

I have absolutely zero expectation to ever be hired. Been at this for 4 years now, two apps in the Apple Store.

[@shanetomonia457]

are you getting callbacks?

[@mryup6100]

Did any of your apps get over 1000 downloads?

[@SacredDiety]

4 years means you’re doing something wrong, idk what but something. The industry was booming in the Covid era so if you couldn’t get in from the start of that up to now then something is wrong with your strategy

[@m15thios]

best video I seen on this topic so far. Thanks man!

[@LanceBryantGrigg]

I have not noticed any slowdown in the industry myself, there are lots and lots and lots of jobs. They just want to make sure they hire qualified people and they are well aware that the chatGPT world allows folks to destroy coding interview tests which is a concern for most folks.

[@abgs]

With how the market is playing out, it no longer feels worth it to get into the field. Not only do you have the hurdle of getting an interview, acing the interview, landing the job, but now you'll also have the hurdle of not getting fired or replaced in the future by emerging technologies or outsourcing. Years ago, CS WAS the safe path to a great and long career, but now there's just too much fear and it's apparent corporate greed has taken over. If you genuinely like CS then go ahead and pursue it, but don't expect the same 1337 pay and work/life balance as how it was in the past. While it is true that AI won't be taking over (anytime soon, at least), it HAS taken over a good amount of entry level positions. From a business perspective, it makes more sense to get rid of a junior that you're paying 60k/year and bumping a senior's pay by 10-20k while giving him/her a ChatGPT 4o subscription. What's the senior going to do? Quit? Ok bye! Let's look at this list of 10,000 applicants that just applied in the last hour.

[@AL-go2mv]

So many programmers out of bootcamp or college need to not just know how to code but as you said need to know software engineering principles, patterns, and writing clean efficient code. It needs to scale, wont piss off the next programmer who see’s it, and it needs to be extensible. There is also more than just the code you are writing. There is a whole ecosystem of tools (some more important than others) surrounding the code you write. Understand what happens on your computer when you execute the code. Understand the software development cycle from start to end. If you want to be paid well you need to think like an engineer and see the bigger picture and not just the code you write in your editor or the single function you are writing now. When applying always talk in terms of what you have accomplished and tangible results.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Agree with you, but companies aren't going to pay US salaries if they can have someone in India or Mexico write the same code for 10-30% of the cost. It's just that simple

[@AL-go2mv]

@@censoredeveryday3320 depends on the ethics of the company.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

@@AL-go2mv Hah. Thanks for the laugh. Most companies don't have any ethics. Especially right now during high a high interest rate environment. I watched my company layoff my entire team and replace them with low cost Indian workers while claiming they were a family and cared about people. What a crock

[@AL-go2mv]

@@censoredeveryday3320 sorry to hear that. The company I work at doesn’t do that.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

@@AL-go2mv You are very fortunate. Vast majority of companies will outsource as much as they can.

[@VladosBroCA]

The programming section is no longer a prestige job. Too much demand back here and will be worse if the future. Higher demand for workers doesn't mean a higher chance of getting into. The number of employees will be 3x-5x higher who want to themselfs get into. The 25% of difference is too low for that. Maybe it's better there if it will be at least 75% or even 125%? The salary is averaged for the existing number of employees, that is, in this case the, percentage of average earnings for the employee falls. And the saddest thing is that the requirement for special skills from junior employees will only become more complex and make to do a senior developer work just to get an entry-level salary. Yeah, the programming economy industry is fucked now. No surprise why there's a lot of layoffs and rejections.

[@JohnDunne001]

I've 20 years experience in the field and haven't been able to find work for over a year now... apparently 20 to 100 applicants per job posting.

[@КоляФилатов-щ2б]

Thanks for motivation. The next steps are dedication and hard work

[@devslopes]

Exactly!! Keep up the work🫶

[@dhokiarinidh9809]

Thank you for the ray of hope. Sometimes it's just no hope / demotivation that lets us down, you've taken care of that...

[@AL-go2mv]

AI is currently a tool I use every day. Its main use comes in researching topics and answering questions as it is faster at getting information than searching google/stack overflow. It is a productivity tool in its current state. I dont have to ask more senior developers as many questions if I get a pretty solid answer from AI. This means less time distracting other developers and more overall productivity/efficiency. If you are using as a substitute for you coding then you should not be coding. It makes many mistakes you wouldn’t know if you aren’t knowledgeable about coding. Beyond writing code for simple functions or classes it does not understand the complicated context surrounding problems you are trying to solve. When you have multiple interacting components and applications you still need to know good engineering principles and what good code looks like and how to write it.

[@PythonArms]

I have been a data analyst for the past couple years. This is a great video and your mentions of the resume and team dynamics couldnt have been more accurate. Well said sir.

[@RajinderYadav]

Getting into the dev field is nuts, layoffs have started in 2024 with more rolling layoffs. This means, there are more experienced devs competing in a tight job market. AI is going to keep reducing the jobs in this and other fields.

[@oqkami]

With all of your analysis in mind, I would like to know your opinion on my current state of options: Should I take Software Engineering (MEng) or should I take "Mathematics and Computer Science (MSci)". The only reason I have the second option is because of the greater depth it goes into but I am worried that it lacks on programming and other software engineering aspects necessary for jobs.

[@heisangx]

I work as a researcher and almost everybody in my department can and does some coding as part of their job. Programming is just a very useful skillset which has become overhyped and overrated, especially as a profession. Right now we use general purpose computational tools that are astronomical in cost. With the tremendous leaps taken by AI, I should be able to write with AI assistance in the near future, for example a specialized finite element code to solve a multi-physics coupled problem without having to hole myself up in a cave for 3 months. Already, I see my colleagues using chat gpt often in their work and these are PhDs. The mathematician in the next cubicle codes all the time in python, and he says chat gpt has been extremely helpful. In the future, I see many professionals and companies developing their own custom applications with AI and this will further deplete the need for full time programmers.

[@ci6516]

I think you need to know a range of skills for most jobs and that’s already being seen

[@debashishbramha]

Great Video,you done a stupendous job.In India all are learing AI ,in our school carriculam from Class VI( 11 years Old) they are inrtoducing AI,of course Python is everybodies choice.We are putting huge enphasis on Statistics also.In BCA,BBA,MBA level we are slowly moving for Data Science.Put some more videos like this very encouraging.Thanks from India.

[@jeongmooyoo8692]

Thanks man fir giving me confidence. will be back with offer letter :)

[@asepbahn3113]

So the on demand skills in tech are AI, IOT, Robotic, and Automation Application, thanks for your information jake the brogrammer

[@Lisekplhehe]

IOT is not a skill, Robotics is a huge, mathematically complicated area of knowledge. Lots of useless AI projects are now indevelopment so that's probably a bit of a bubble.

[@AdhamEmad-hd5pg]

Should i leave the college and learn it by my self ? I am in the first year at the university and i don't feel that learn any thing from it , at the other hand alot of people tell me that the college degree is important and you will not get a job without it , so i am scared to take the risk and get my self in another trouble . What should i do ? 😢

[@debleenasarkar6243]

dont leave. learn side by side ur college. Irrespective of what anyone says, ur college degree will help u to get that first job a lot fater as compared to if u choose to drop out

[@HE360]

Get your college degree. It would be good in the tech field and outside of the tech field.

[@milhouse8166]

Ideally you should stay AND learn by yourself on the side. And you might not think you are learning anything but you are.

[@dmitriidemenev5258]

Nope, if you quit, you'll be screened out and won't even get to the interview. The system is messed up and I don't think it's going to change.

[@Theparotidmems]

​@@dmitriidemenev5258is it possible to land a job with no degree just through self learning and experience nowadays or with an unrelated other bachelor degree?

[@Dave-z1p]

I landed my current job in '22 and will cling to it for the salary for as long as possible I advise anybody to be doing the same and safe money for times where you need to pick up a job that pays less.

[@KingTMK]

I thought you meant 1922 and was so confused

[@hirmor666]

Going down real fast... that's where it is going

[@jsacodes916]

It’s August of 2024 and nothing has changed. In fact, it hasn’t changed since the beginning of 2023, and it doesn’t look like it’s getting any better. Why? Because the market is fucked, nobody wants to train, businesses can’t borrow money, inflation, fear of recession, etc…

[@AL-go2mv]

I make 170k now probably because I started my career several years before the pandemic. I feel for the people out if bootcamps and universities that are struggling to get a job in this field. The demand has definitely decreased and many companies are looking to hire more senior developers from what I have seen because these developers are more efficient and require less investment. Also just beware preferring a degree over bootcamp is a thing. Most layoffs are at larger companies. Stop looking at google and amazon as the bar you need to reach straight out of college. I have always looked at where I can learn the most while making a decent salary. Knowledge pays off in the end and some of the best companies where you can learn are small to medium sized. When you look for a job make sure you research the companies hiring practices and finances. A company hesitant to hired and who is frugal with their money is probably the better company to join right now.

[@techSmith773]

Thanks for the analysis, really encouraging

[@devslopes]

Of course! I hope it gives some relief!

[@techSmith773]

@@devslopes sure programming for life

[@yyyzzz-k3r]

You said sending 10 -20 jobs per day, I wonder how can you do it? Every company they need you to register, fill-in the same information that on your resume already, put a cover letter. That takes me ~25 mins per application. So 2 application would be 1 hour. If you have classes and other staff to do, that is a lof of time.

[@CausallyExplained]

What yall dont understand is, AI is in its training phase. And you are training it, Pretty soon it will take jr positions indefinably and so on.

[@ci6516]

Just like self driving cars right ? You know training these models js going to become more of an issue ; and it’s only a matter of time before organizations begin banning their software being used as data for another ai model

[@ИванЖалдак-ю8у]

Thanks, mr Wolverine, I feel better now.

[@devslopes]

Hahahahha😂

[@henson2k]

What you're saying is try harder not smarter and that's a recipe for failure. The real solution is to move from coding to software engineering in specific area and then to higher level position like team lead, architecture, CTO.

[@RajinderYadav]

did you fall off the turnip truck, first you need to land a job, before all the other things you said. also those roles are fewer, most stress and not secure.

[@bigazTV]

Im 30 and im scared if any company would wanna take a chance on me as a recent grad. Thought i could turn m life around and do some good. went back to school, did the right thing. graduated with a 4.0GPA but hey man fuck life

[@FishAndChips2478]

Congrats! That's awesone, did you get a CompSci degree? But anyways, congrats for this achievement. I don't mean to discourage you, I hope you find something good, but many places are making a heavy emphasis on experience at the moment, good luck out there

[@Ayoutubeaccount3]

well I'm 28 and did the same thing, found my first job last september as a software developer, did take me 9 months but would've been less if I kept applying and stopped getting demoralised whenever I got a rejection from a job I liked, I also built a portfolio alongside while I was looking

[@CodingThingsIRL]

Jake! You inspire me so much! #keepbrogramming

[@devslopes]

This channel wouldn’t be here without you guys! Thank you so much❤️

[@juangaviria7583]

A lot of tech jobs are being outsourced. My company just laid off a number of Engineers and immediately opened the same positions in India. A good advice is to be productive, stay relevant and dont be at the bottom of the skill/performance totem pole when this things happen.

[@waffle8364]

I've been putting in the time and effort. I've put out 1700 apps in 1 year. 1.5% conversion to first round and 20% conversion to second round. These are terrible numbers. I'm also highly burnt out

[@tarungaur3999]

Thanks man for a quick guide about Coding Job market 2024, Love from India..!

[@JustinK0]

Freelance work is still a job so you're pretty much saying, in order to get a job, you have to show that you have work experience in previous jobs

[@lynic-0091]

What a truly amazing video. Youve gained a new subscriber.

[@Alejandracamacho357]

We live in challenging times if you follow the news, fin-mkts have become more volatile and government are ever more regulatory. I'm mostly in cash about $250k liquid, but considering stock market indexes at an all time high, do I buy stocks now, or contribute only to my 401k?

[@PhilipMurray251]

invest in 401k, it never goes down they always say, yet the 2020 pandemic showed an obvious lesson the need for financial advisory

[@Natalieneptune469]

Money advice is subjective, what works for you may not work for me, but it's ideal to have a plan. Personally, I'm lucky delegating my excesses to an advisor ever since covid-19 outbreak, and as of today, I'm just about 25% short of $1m after subsequent investments.

[@Alejandracamacho357]

massive win! mind sharing advisor info please? my goals for 2024 is to invest 20% of my earnings into dividend paying stocks and add at least one extra stream of income to help me catch up on the years I wasted not saving and investing

[@Natalieneptune469]

Can't divulge much, I delegate my excesses to someone of great expertise ''Natalie Ann Brinkman'' preferably you can look her up online, her qualifications speak for itself.

[@Natalieneptune469]

There are many financial coaches who excel in their profession, but for the time being, I employ Natalie Ann Brinkman because I adore his methods.

[@LiamSilverman]

except unlike farms and tractors, the masses wont get any of the return.. just the companies.

[@brettgattinger3338]

Am I the only one here who thinks sending out 20 applications a day is a ridiculous requirement? When I apply I always include a tailored cover letter that takes around 25 - 40 minutes to write. I can’t afford to do that 20 times a day

[@foxrings]

I'm hearing a contradiction. Don't send the same resume to each app, it should be a bespoke work of art. While at the same time, this lovingly crafted art has to be outputted 30 times per day.

[@FairyLotusUnicorn]

It can. With ai. Give ai all your info and the job req and tell it to tailor your resume to the job reqs. Then quickly edit the funkiness...seconds. 😅 had a coworker literally send out hundreds with this method.

[@johnvonachen1672]

You missed a couple of points. #1 interest rates are higher. #2 there was an important tax law that changed whereas before companies could deduct their taxes by the amount they spent on research, all coding is considered research. They could do the whole amount for the year. Now they have to spread it out over 5 years. This puts a damper on spending money on development labor. I don’t think it’s likely the law will change back.

[@bonsmasemo1738]

Send 10 to 20 jobs applications a day....but also tailor your applications....cool

[@rendivs925]

thanks, i will not quit in this field because i am super passionate about this ❤

[@devslopes]

Keep it up man!!

[@Jaydunnnn]

Hi! I’m currently a high school senior and im planning on majoring in CS in college. Currently I’ve taken college level courses in JAVA programming and self learned some python. What do you recommend I do outside of class to prepare myself? Also whats the best way to write and identify clean quality code?

[@devslopes]

What field are you planning on going into within computer programming?

[@Jaydunnnn]

@@devslopes Full-stack software engineering

[@AFollowerOfCanti]

dont do it bro, find a different major with a more stable job, code on the side. I graduated a while ago, with all the right credentials, they absolutely do not want juniors.

[@nightm0nk3y12]

@@AFollowerOfCanti what are you gonna do then? 😭

[@xdrfvgyhn64]

I wish I was able to tell these things to my younger self, but definitely do lots and LOTS of projects. Practice, practice, practice, and sometimes look at tutorials only when you need to. Use all the free time you can to create interesting and complex projects that you enjoy doing, because once you're an adult, more often than not you'll be worrying more about paying the bills than finishing your side projects. If you can't think of anything to build, there's a good list of projects that ThePrimeTime covered in his video (search Projects Every Programmer Should Try by ThePrimeTime on KZbin), but basically: - Text editor (build the UI from scratch) - 2D game - Space Invaders - Compiler You'll learn lots of things with just the first one. Once you're able to do these projects comfortably, you'll already have the right mindset to work on any project on any software dev fields, not just full-stack, so it'll be easier for you to pivot if a particular field is not to your liking/bad job offers. One other thing, try limiting your project timeline within 2-3 months. It's easier to slack off once you work on a project more than that. Once you get better at programming and you've established your workflow, try limiting them to 1 month or less instead. And also, set the features you want to be in the v1.0 release ahead of time, and only focus on those, so you can avoid feature creep. The important thing is to finish projects, not to just start them.

[@ddude27]

This video aged well with a few more announcements of layoffs... What people need to focus on is trying to be good at what they do and find out how to advertise it to employers effectively because that's the key to getting the dam job. While all these tips can help but everyone's journey is different and results are always different from a case by case basis unless you publish research on what actually gets you employed. Also the job market is fucken huge and software engineering makes up around 1-2 million people out of the 100 million (reported in 2022 by BLS) people employed so if things are not working out you can always try to move to a different profession completely that pays decently. I wouldn't also lean on the statistics that the BLS publish because they can drop the ball hard. We had the Federal Reserve (Supposedly the smartist economists in USA) mess up inflation readings hard right after the pandemic which got us into this position of higher interest rates. But what do I know... I guess people want to told dreams can come true if you follow these steps even when it's statistically unlikely to net you a successful result. I feel like a lot of people of running into that saying "insanity is when your trying the same thing constantly and expecting a different result"

[@escapetarkov3838]

After learning to code, getting a job then being replaced. I got my pilots license and making 3x the money while having fun! Can't believe I ever wanted to be stuck behind the screen working like a slave for peanuts.

[@JimBarcelona]

Remember, you are competing with guys in Bangalore who you will do what you do for minimum wage in the US. There are more IT guys in Bangalore than the entire US

[@Jesse_Johnson]

Experience is king.

[@EDC.EveryDayCode]

OK so if you are tailoring ea. resume to the company at hand, then you will obviously send out less resumes. that's the only problem i have with this video. Send out 100 per day copy/pasted and u won't even remember where u applied.

[@youshouldntdothis5747]

But how can market for developers grow if we dont need many "farmers" anymore? Doesnt it means that job postings for developers will drop?

[@IonidisIX]

AI is a tool and the software engineer of the future will need to know how to bring out the best out of this tool. In solving problems you will need to know everything around the automated (increasingly and extremely potent) code spat out by AI agents/chat boxes. That way when something goes wrong you make sure you steer things in the right direction. This requires knowledge so you need to be sharp with how to use AI in the best way possible. I hope this will make sense to people.

[@tolulope.j]

Thanks for the practical advice

[@devslopes]

100% thank you so much for watching🫶

[@amcmillion3]

There are lots of jobs for people with 4+ years of experience. The junior market is oversaturated. It is going to weed out all those people who can't actually code or who aren't taking it seriously.

[@slimjimjimslim5923]

You can tell the market is saturated by the sheer number of coding tutorials and interview vid on youtube alone, in tens of thousands. Like a factory of coders. And also the hundreds of free courses on MIT, udemy, datacamp etc etc. I saw a stat that said at least 5million people have intermediate knowledge of python, meaning they can at least be a data analyst and maintain basic scripting for entry level jobs. (histograms, statistics, function calls, import/export data, summary) There's so much resources to become a coder over the last 10 years, it's no wonder we have like 50k-100k SWE looking for jobs in the bay area along. This is the time to really reflect what new skill to learn to distinguish yourself. Being a generalist coder doesn't work anymore precisely because there's 100k other engineers with the same skill set. I heard this all the time that "oh I'm a generalist, I can do anything and adapt to any language cause that's how programing is"....yeah but that makes you so special compare to the other millions of people who also said the same. Why don't I just outsource this job to india or china and they charge me half the cost and willing to work twice the number of hours. It's harsh and I know it sucks but it's the reality of capitalism. : - ( And SWE isn't the first industry that this has happened. It happened to IT, remember the last time you worked with IT support that wasn't located in India? Very rarely nowadays. And leetcode helps you pass interviews but not going make you more than just a code monkey.

[@TheGreatWasian_]

People don't realize there's lots of tech jobs that aren't just being a standard developer/coder/programmer.

[@RajinderYadav]

right, like they guy who needs to put paper and ink in the office printer

[@ci6516]

Ur a nub . Like data science , data engineering, network engineering, cybersecurity, systems admin , devops, data analytics m/business analyst, quant analyst/quant developer, machine learning engineer, tech consulting ,

[@InkPageBooks]

I just started learning Python this week. What would you recommend?

[@TheGreatWasian_]

@@InkPageBooks I learned from my university but best advice I can give you is to specialize in your purpose of programming. Python and programming in general is so powerful and holds so many different purposes. If you can really lean into one purpose and specialize in it, it will help your job prospects. For example, data analysis, database management, software development, finance tech, game development, automation, etc.

[@InkPageBooks]

@@TheGreatWasian_ To be honest, I don't even know what I want to do. All I know is I got to get that bag, but I have no path and no job of now. Sucks to see people complain about the the job market. Feel lost in all of this.

[@jakeleone8944]

This is what happened, and don't listen to what this guy says, because it isn't what really occurred. Maybe half the layoffs are because of a bubble, the other half is because activist investors demanded higher profitability, and CEOs listened. When interest rates rose, companies came under pressure because activist investors could point and say, hey I can get 5% or more if I just loan the money out or buy government treasuries. Also, half of the bubble related layoff, has already been hired back either at a lower salary or (more commonly) by outsourcing the department to places such as India. This is what happens in the United States, because the Federal Reserve protects the dollar from massive inflation, and it kills opportunities in the United States, and encourages opportunity abroad where workers make 1/10 what U.S. workers do (yet somehere live nearly equivalently). This market manipulation (it isn't capitalism to use a government monopoly to set a rate), has plagued the U.S. workforce. But it protects the people who can vote with big campaign contributions. It also protects some retiree savings accounts. But it displaces Americans right and left, and creates a dog-eat-dog work environment, which tech workers are experiencing (but all other non-unionized industries have been experiencing for decades).

[@censoredeveryday3320]

The Federal Governmnet isn't protecting anything. They caused the inflation by printing Trillions of dollars the past three years.

[@Jenkkimie]

So i graduated in a very bad time it seems. No wonder many of my classmates have been unable to find jobs. In dept, no jobs, going bankrupt. It's not ideal. I myself got 2-years of industry experience and the knowledge to write high quality scalable code and fullstack RestAPI skills. Still companies don't even care to look at my portfolio, as they are exclusively looking for 5 or more years of experience. I get that companies want productivity, efficiency and speed and while I probably still lack on those fronts, it's a bit silly how much the focus seems to be in artifical time rather than skills and results.

[@sandeepunnikrishnan8806]

Man 2032 might look promising but as an international student i hope i would be there to witness it before going back

[@FishAndChips2478]

I think it'd be better if the market wasn't as saturated with people coming out of bootcamps. Having an actual engineering degree, I honestly haven't had issues since I graduated 4 years ago, but it's evident that things are really tough out there, having masses of people still flocking into software development doesn't help, and AI is just getting started, you have to be on that train before it goes full speed, where I work, the managers are asking for "areas of opportunity" where we can use AI to reduce the amount of people required in a certain project

[@SacredDiety]

Can’t blame people for getting in without putting in 4 years of their life to do so. It’s all about who can do the job now degree or not.

[@FishAndChips2478]

@@SacredDiety I can't blame them, no, for chasing the current shiny thing, with the current market conditions these people won't even be looked at anyways, on average, randos have absolutely no chance of "breaking into tech" as things stand today lol, that's what I like about reality, it doesn't care about poeple's beliefs

[@SacredDiety]

@@FishAndChips2478 Same goes for those that think their degree is going to save them. Like I said, all about who can do the job and can prove they have the skills.

[@FishAndChips2478]

@@SacredDiety Absolutely, I agree, only a fool would assume stability today, the more you get paid, the more of a liability you are for your employer and the more efficient it is to target you in the next round of layoffs, you always need to save as much money as you can, you have to diversify your skills and be ready to jump to the next position when needed, never get too comfortable, that's the worst you can do

[@robthom09]

But AI will assist jobs during the interim, then rapidly displace altogether.

[@tmati7860]

Thank you for this video. What do you think about multi-task programmers? I mean those who know more than one language. you know, previously Companies were looking for a Python or .Net developer. Do these defaults have been changed after AI came into the picture?

[@brocksprogramming]

Referring to not trusting AI, my computer blinked on and off while programming using a certain chatbot. I have no idea why this would be unless there is something I wasn't supposed to see, like a UAC privilege request not on my behalf.

[@jtc9098]

In today's world, you basically have to work just to find work. You may even work harder finding the job than you will on the actual job itself. Only the strong will survive.... it is what it is.

[@shwets_thats_me]

Take the leap! Learn the skills!! because at the end of the day if you do everything right there's going to be a job out there for you!🕊

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Maybe if you're from India

[@shwets_thats_me]

@@censoredeveryday3320 what do you mean ?

[@drn7305]

Which coding language is best? Answer me

[@moemia902]

Can you please make your corner screen smaller so I can see the actual content :)