I stopped doing The Knees Over Toes Guy Program... here's what I noticed

[@birdwrangler]

TLDR: got bored w/ATG, tried another program and realized she should incorporate ATG into said program.

[@luke_strengthcoachingonline]

Saved me 13mins 🙌

[@clevelandsavage]

Thanks for explaining. Yeah...that's what we're NOT gonna do.

[@rationalityrules111]

thanks man

[@urstube6901]

I'm glad for this, was not going to listen to her ramble on

[@nickegli6062]

I love you dude!!

[@carl_anderson9315]

As far as I know, the ATG program is not intended to be a monolith. If you’re an athlete you’re not forced to abandon your usual muscular routine. You can just incorporate the ATG routine as an extra bonus for your joints.

[@Unique_Monk]

Agreed It’s how they make money but when you promote artificial fixes and expect us to trust the rest of your content - hmm

[@timlamb1156]

Exactly, you need to trailor every program to something that works for you and your goals.

[@TheLoanGuy]

Agree, To me it is accessory work. I love ATG

[@shouse94]

True statement

[@nessiemupfeki]

Depends. I am doing ATG PRO program and by the time I am done with one session, 80 min later, I am too tired to add anything else to it!

[@TheLoanGuy]

I only use the free ATG content. Never thought it was a training program but a way to make my knees healthy so I can do the sports I like and have a functional longevity. I use the basic ATG movements as warm up for my lower body work outs, my warm up time has dramatically decreased.

[@kettlebellquest5215]

There are ATG principles and then there are the programs on the app. The principles extend beyond those programs. As an ATG coach, I program my own workouts and the workouts of my clients. Individualization at some point is an absolute must. Enjoy the journey.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Appreciate that!

[@remiebbx]

I just started using a 6kg kettlebell Could you please recommend some exercises to help my painful hip flexor? I understand the ATG program, but would love some kettlebell sets from the kettlebell quest 🤩

[@nessiemupfeki]

What are the basic ATG principles one could do as warmup b4 doing their own strength program?

[@rohanandrewnaik3742]

Sharing something that worked for me as an athlete while transitioning from ATG to other workouts. I'm currently doing Dan John's Easy Strength program 5 days a week. Slightly modified it to include 5 mins of reverse sled work and some plyometrics every day. Each workout only lasts me 30 mins. On the 6th and 7th days, I do some ATG work for the lower leg, knees, lower back and shoulders. Very short sessions, about 15 mins each. This has worked very well for me.

[@RubyRedDances]

I absolutely adore the East Strength program. I call it the 40 day program. Is that the one you're doing? Mostly 2x5s Right? Most amount of gains I've ever made.

[@oceanom5090]

ATG is a wonderful addition to anyone's work out routine. Keep your joints, tendons and ligaments stong too. Not only your muscles.

[@jeffkidd7448]

I’ve found using the ATG movements work great as a warmup. I usually do split squats, seated good mornings, and pullovers to start my workout. I’ve found after 3 rounds of these moves I’m ready for whatever workout is scheduled that day. No additional warmup needed. By doing this atg routine in place of my old not very effective warmup I have found great improvement with no additional gym time needed.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Good stuff!

[@buffalobadminton]

I think you’ll like the new ATG standards program. It’s three days per week , lower body, upper body and a mobility day. Then that leaves you room to do something customized to your own body and sport. So in your case you could do an “ athletic/plyometric day “ and then one other weight day that focuses on your structural balance numbers. This is the program Ben recommends for the those that are part of ATG for coaches because it gives you some structure but then an option to customize later in the weeks training. So for me I use that structure , I add in one plyometric that has a good amount of volume and then one other strength day to target my strength weaknesses

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Thank you! I'll look into these.

[@buffalobadminton]

@@VictoriaDorsano 👍

[@shouse94]

I have the exact opposite experience. Whenever i screw up my body with heavy lifting, i use atg movements as a source of PT programming and i always see results almost immediately.

[@owconundrum9928]

It also has to do a lot with the intent you have while you perform the exercise, you can make a lot the atg exercises a lot more "Athletic" by Exploding Up on the Concentric, while still controlling the Eccentric portions. :)

[@beardedsoul7845]

This is why balance is important. You shouldn't do one more than the other. Whole body wellness

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Absolutely

[@rugbydaydreamin]

Great info! We've never been as old as we are playing our sports (I'm late 40s rugby player) . What i've found is that while explosive muscle strength feels amazing, the joints and ligs are the things that keep us awake at night, in pain, and off the pitch. When I reduce ATG I also increase hot therapy to keep those smaller parts warm. Seems to help balance load, especially the ankles (there's no shortage of ankle rolls in rugby).

[@frannelk]

What kind of hot therapy? sauna?

[@rugbydaydreamin]

@@frannelk Preference is 20-30m traditional sauna , but hot soaking or steam works too, albeit longer durations (for me). Have not tried infared yet tho. I try to 'heat up' within hour of driving to intense practice both in- and out-of-season to ensure ligs are warm

[@ericmalitz]

Almost all of us, after childhood, 1. Stop moving frequently enough, in enough ranges 2. Are subject to the damage of society’s constraints on movement (wearing shoes; sitting; hunching over), 3. Lift in the gym in a muscle-dominant style, leaving connective tissue relatively weaker than the muscle; instead the connective tissue should be as strong as (or stronger than) the muscle. ATG isn’t an agility system. ATG restores pain free ability in order to train agility optimally (which, in another topic, really should come from simply playing your sport), where too many people are training the “software” (agility) on top of faulty, less than optimal “hardware” (the connective tissue, and muscle).

[@matenorth]

How do you train connective tissue please?

[@jayf4357]

I think the biggest takeaway for me was more body awareness than I’ve had before, understanding the hidden aspects of the lower body that make a huge difference in our overall health such as working the ankles Achilles, tibs, knees hamstrings and hips. While also still doing the traditional style of training. Being able to identify the opposite side of the strong parts of my body and having methods to tackle them.

[@jayf4357]

Do you think incorporating some of these movements daily or every other day is maybe excessive? And throwing them in once a week sufficient?

[@peterwu5973]

The best comment I read so far.. Body Awareness , or Brain Muscle connection, is so essential to physical movement.

[@hockeyhacks2.0]

In general, the best training program is the one you have not done; there is no perfect program. In the ATG Coaches calls, we’ve had some interesting talks about whether or not ATG makes you slower, which you’ve appeared to experience too. There’s definitely a time and place to try out faster, explosive movements including Oly lifts. I love the principles behind ATG and use those principles in my own programming in addition to my pro hockey guys and my in-person gen pop. clients. I don’t always follow the in-app programs for anyone in-person.

[@youngsuit]

This is a good review. You said a lot of the positives of the program that came out of your knee injury. I'm doing the program now and it definitely is very monotonous and gets boring fast. It's designed so that you dont ever get that tired (to prevent falling off track or injury) but man it gets mentally challenging to stick through the monotony.

[@wolfganggwd]

To be clear, there is no "the program" with ATG. It is a system of principles that make programming malleable and suitable for any ability level.

[@nessiemupfeki]

I completely agree with u , it does get boring very quick. I am on week 3 of ATG PRO and I am already bored but will stick it out to at least 8 weeks

[@youngsuit]

@nessiemupfeki yeah I did atg pro. Im doing jump ability now and it's a bit more exciting but it's still the same every week

[@nessiemupfeki]

@youngsuit How long did u do ATG PRO and did u see any benefits after u did it?

[@davidrioux611]

Barbell front squats full depth will give you the benefit of range from ATG zero as well as load you appropriately to develop strength and explosiveness.

[@RRRPaula]

Wow, I'm really impressed with the honesty of this video. It is hard to get this from YT these days. Thanks you for sharing your experience!

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Appreciate you!

[@thanksgivingh6185]

It's always nice to see honest takes of someones experience with both the pros/and cons(not just overly positive or overly negative which usually has an agenda). very helpful for people. the way i got my current workouts and having fun is I have more of a conventional leg day with some ATG movements sprinkled in as accessory, a mobility day which is mostly all ATG, and then a day running/sprinting. and then I do pullups/dips 3x a week getting them in when I can, but kind of irrelevant 😅. I definetly agree, I dont feel the ATG movements themselves are optimal enough if you really want power/explosiveness/strength. I find the whole clips of him dunking thing and selling the system as the best way to dunk pretty insincere and I would be curious how many people who arn't very springy naturally actually became able to dunk for the first time due to the programs alone. For coming back from injury, general health/longevity, bulletproofness, and flexibility though , the exercises are top tier.👍 i especially enjoy how it seems flexibility training and progressions have become a lot more wellknown and mainstream since ATG got popular. definetly something i neglected for years

[@RashadSimmons]

Well he could never dunk after 3 years of college & college training, so it isn't insincere.

[@GeorgeOu]

It's great to change up workouts and you can reduce the amount of ATG work you do, but it's not good to completely stop ATG work. You want to do the minimum maintenance amount of ATG to avoid knee injuries.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Definitely will check this out! Thank you!

[@sallute173]

Good take! I use atg for supplementing my bigger lifts (squat, bench, press..) its also great to feel mobile and supple. but i dont think the full program is for everyone. Theres certain sports that absolutely require specific training/knowledge from credible people in field.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Love this viewpoint! That’s what I’ve converted to using it for lately. More supplemental.

[@samm4540]

My humble and honest advice for you as an athlete: For your “lack of agility” issue try working every muscle group only with bands. Idk if you have but is the best way to gain reaction speed and muscle proprioception

[@VictoriaDorsano]

thanks for sharing :)

[@DevinCooper-p1h]

So far i'm blending some fitness styles together in my routine. I'll use some popular knee ability zero exercises, as well as the weighted ATG seated goodmorning, as my warmup which feels amazing when I complete. Then going into my actual workout, I'll pick an exercise for each type of movement, hinge, squat, press, pull, core and carry. I'll use primarily a strongman sandbag and/or regular fitness sandbag for these as well as some bodyweight or kettlebells. I also sprinkle in an isometric hinge exercise to prime my body for my heavy hinge exercise and an isometric push exercise for my heavy push exercise. For my finisher, i'll pick one or two explosive rotational exercises to round it out. I do 2 full body workouts like that in a week, 1 cardio day and 2-3 days of mma training. It definitely agrees with my body. An amazing exercise i've found that really puts your body through all planes of motion and just makes you feel great is the kettlebell turkish get up.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Great routine! :)

[@oneness1_]

Sometimes, ppl forget that we have different bodies and our bodies have different needs so no one program is best for you unless you design it yourself! I feel like ATG has helped me a lot but I'm kinda gearing towards feeling how my body is and working towards what it needs😊. God luck in your search😊

[@VictoriaDorsano]

I love that approach!

[@oneness1_]

@VictoriaDorsano I mean...if you think about it...food has a huge impact on our bodies and everyone eats in a unique way thus making our bodies have unique needs. Similar to exercise, diets are usually plant based advocates or carnivores. I mean I did 3 yrs as a vegetarian and then 1 year carnivore...they both had very good benefits for me but I'm feeling my body likes both so there you go. Dr. Sean O'Mara's work on diet is pretty cool if u got a min. Anyway, cheers and Happy Aloha Friday!

[@jimwing.2178]

The "Happy Medium" is always changing. There are many dynamic variables even if there is no new acute injury. A person must stay vigilant with their own body and adapt accordingly. The speed and quantity of damage accelerates with age. Concurrently, the ease and speed of recovery/adaptation decelerates with age.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Very true!

[@Michael_Elias]

I ran into a similar thing with ATG so I started to use ATG to support a 4 day full body split routine. Each day had an emphasis (push, pull, hinge, squat) but was whole body overall. I also used Westside barbell principles of your first main lift is heavy (1-5 rep max or low rep sets) or speed work and the rest of the day is accessory/bodybuilding style work. This allowed me to fit in some good volume in limited time by supersetting exercises with muscle groups that don’t impact each other. I really enjoyed the routine, it was easy to swap exercises and groupings around.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Thanks for laying this out!

[@cheesey712]

Great feedback, thank you for the in-depth sharing

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sbagnell510]

I usually incorporate 1 or 2 ATG exercises for upper or lower day with Olympic lifting so I’m handling explosive power and joint work for maintenance. I found this to be the best so that I’m not necessarily losing progress

[@davidrioux611]

Everyone participating in clean, deadlift, jerk, or even some movement in calisthenics references Cross Fit. How insulting to where the exercises come from. Weightlifting, powerlifting and gymnastics.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

I hear ya. I was genuinely doing a program called "crossfit lifts" though. I understand that olympic lifting is a category on it's own, along with powerlifting, etc.

[@Tony-dv5fs]

“The true virtue of a teacher lies in showing their students how to walk on their own.” Shi’ra

[@joe1071]

Getting bored of bulletproofing knees, went hard into highest injury rate activity of CrossFit lmao

[@lillywitch978]

Informative, thanks!

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rj5676]

Maybe try doing atg workouts first if it’s to easy add more weight to eccentric movements like knees over toes squat or the split squat for example than after that take a 3-5 minute break and then work on plyo movements Massai jumps are good and sprinting

[@xGaviJax]

Once you injure yourself you can never go back to the no maintenance full workout way. That's annoying but that's the reality. You have to find what works and the volume. After that you're golden.

[@dougprosser6964]

The knees over toes stuff is a base to whatever other training your doing. If you go back to training imbalances like you were before you will likely get injured again

[@sergiokirienko2622]

Joints take longer to adapt than muscles. Keep consistency and a manageable volume. At the end of the day what's going to better prepare you for beach volleyball is to play more beach volleyball. Love from another ACL survivor. We got this!

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Thank you so much! and I totally agree with you!

[@rigohurtado8575]

I’ve been doing kneeovertoes program feel strong asf

[@johndibenedetto5864]

Awesome take Victoria! Thanks

[@cdktaekwon-doclubculebra1627]

I simply added some atg exercises into my kettlebell training. Not leaving kb swing program, need that explosiveness for martial arts.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Sounds like a good mix!

[@samk7717]

What do you do? Mma or just grappling?

[@cdktaekwon-doclubculebra1627]

@samk7717 Chung do Kwan Tae kwon do is a traditional striking art focused on self-defense more then sport. Kettlebell has drastically improved my technique speed and power, the knees over toes guys exercises help keep joints pain free and healthy.

[@mabe2551]

Have you tried doing a few ATG moves as a warm up for your regular workouts? That's what I'm doing mostly an happy about it so far.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Yes! just made a YT short on this. It has worked out nicely!

[@nessiemupfeki]

@mabe2551 which ones did you select and why?

[@L337Catdaddy]

i got way to into ATG, and slowly started to neglect posterior chain and it led to all kinds of hip pain that I had to rehab for about 6 months

[@enioaguirre404]

@VictoriaDorsano extra muscle isn't as helpful if you don't have the fascia web developed around it to support it. Have you done any kind of fascia training?? This has been a game changer for my son who had knee tendinitis and plays soccer. Combined with tibia raises

[@VictoriaDorsano]

What kind of fascia training has your son done?

[@enioaguirre404]

@VictoriaDorsano different types of pogo hops, single foot, also marble training under toes

[@narsylvester]

Good info as usual. I'm curious though, did you include any exercises for strengthening your Hip Flexors during your inadvertent layoff from the sand? I experienced that similar "heavy legs" symptom after not playing football(soccer) for several months. But I realized that I was missing out one specific joint action. During the next 8 months or so, I became a regular user of the Multi Hip Machine in the gym, but I only used it for the Hip Flexors, as I was already doing exercises for all of the other Joint Actions of the Hip. The next time I played, the field condition was wet and muddy, but I ran through the entire match, almost feeling as though I was playing bare feet. My heavy leg feeling was due to my Hip Flexors being neglected, which caused my strength balance in the hip area to be off.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

I did! Lots of reverse squats

[@MotorsportThrottle]

I’ve just been trying to get my knee to the point of being able to play basketball consistently for 2-3 days a week lol.

[@JoshuaKeel]

I feel ya. For me it’s pickleball.

[@kennethquitevis6045]

Hey! Thanks for the honest vid! What squat wedges did you use and where did you get them?

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Originally from freak athlete but I don’t think they make them anymore. Try The Tib Bar Guys website. I have a code there for 10% off any items. VICTORIA10. 🙌

[@felixberezhnoy]

Key word here is "program" but still incorporating ATG movements

[@laurenmcleod1871]

I’m planning on incorporating ATG into my current strength training and crossfit regimen. So far I’m thinking this will look like 2 days of strength training. 2 days of ATG and calisthenics. 2 days of EMOMs and 1:1 rest ratio style straining. I haven’t tried this yet, I’m starting next week and excited to see what changes I need to make. Thank you for your video!!

[@VictoriaDorsano]

hope this video helps :)

[@firewater586]

Thank you!

[@oza1302]

Love me an objective take with no strings attached.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

🙏

[@medfly101]

Maybe this willhelp. Like you I have been doing atg for 2 years. Almost complete repair and function of right knee and still working on left hip and knee. When you say you felt weak or flat when playing volleyball. I understand, I hurt myself twice doing this basically doing what you did by going back to bigger moves with weight. I know I love the feeling of doing those movement's. Maybe if you used atg as your base and then tried HIT style resistance workouts instead of Olympic style lifts. If you have the ability to play a sport aka volleyball then play that and drills for that specific sport. Think of it as a skill. Olympic lifts have alot of potential for issue's even if your a genetic freak. The only reason I say this is because I basically did the same thing you did but I am 47 years old. Been in the iron game for over 20 years and at least we have ATG to fix us form ourselves. Hope it helps but a little perspective on it.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Thank you for sharing!

[@s.wilson5675]

Ben Patrick always emphasises slow progression. Bones, joints & ligaments take so much longer to "build" compared to muscle. Try some sort of martial arts, maybe a southern style of kung fu with some internal and external energy. Southern Praying Mantis for example. It would be interesting to see how you adapt to this type of training.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Interesting suggestion!

[@garyyee7234]

Nice to know. Thanks for sharing.

[@baf5209]

Try incorporating some overcoming isometrics theirs no wear and tear and they make you stronger and more explosive at the movement your using I also follow kot programs and wanted to add a little extra

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@kevorkgarabedian]

I have dabbled with the ATG program over the past 2 years and after finally committing a month ago my knees feel much stronger. I do other exercises as well but try to get at least 3/4 ATG workouts in a week. I've also started recording my workouts for people to see my progress. Unlike you I'm no where near my best shape.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

You got this! Take your time, I'm rooting for you.

[@PascalH9191]

It’s a rehab program folks

[@rookendgame]

Atg shouldn't be your main program especially if you are an athlete...if you are an athlete the best thing you can do is play your sport as often as feasibly possible without accumulating injury/fatigue and in your training sessions perform plyometric exercises that heavily mimic your sport's unique motions. Heavy barbell squats, deadlifts, and hip thrusts do absolutely nothing for athletic performance when compared to just playing the sport, accumulating sport volume, and plyometrics

[@shakeiljones5184]

I’m no expert but I will ask have you tried incorporating some fast twitch muscle work with the bands? I’m 30 I’m currently doing ATG/calisthenics/fast twitch muscle band training (hybrid) keeps me feeling lite and fast when hooping and I’m not in the best of shape been vegan for a year dropped 25 good lbs im currently 5”7 200lbs and you seem to have more of an athletic body than me so I say give it a try

[@aegismsg]

Could you share some info or experience you have for knee braces? I have the post op one which locks the whole leg. Now i can do some light strengthening like cycling and staggered squats. was wondering if you use any during rehab / exercise on your road to recovery.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Yes! The Incrediwear knee sleeve was my go to! I have it linked in my pillar website under my channel info.

[@Munni-j4n]

Mame i from Bangladesh.. I get a acl surgery or reconstruction... I need to save my knee... Can i do agt program? If i do then which progrem should i do??? Plz response me.. I was practicing martialarts and. I want to continue that

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Always best to check with your PT before trying any program!

[@BenOgorek]

Interesting. I’m just learning about ATG and it’s a little disappointing to hear that your knees immediately started to hurt after trying something different. The selling point is “bulletproof” knees, right?

[@VictoriaDorsano]

What ive realized is that it’s something that should be a lifelong integration into normal training. There’s no program that can produce lasting results without some upkeep

[@zafarsatti4514]

100% recovered thanks to agt!!!

[@Zethisis25]

Maybe ATG on recovery days

[@VictoriaDorsano]

This could be! Thank you for the suggestion!

[@balbibou]

I think you may like and should listen to Ido Portal if you haven't already

[@stryderblaze80]

How are you running like that? Am I crazy, but are you going from ball of the foot to heel, or am I seeing things?

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Definitely not going from ball to heel! Haha but I’m more ball/mid foot running since I’m in barefoot shoes

[@smithsmith1874]

@@VictoriaDorsanono

[@currentfaves65]

Try reverse lunges - HT Physio

[@Xendurance]

Let's go!!

[@VictoriaDorsano]

💪💪

[@NinjaNikola]

damn how true is 'girls just wanna have fun' xD 'it was too boring', that is how you build the fundament girl... but I guess 'girls just wanna have fun', so I understand :D

[@richardj6593]

😮 stick with atg.. You are not getting younger. Injury free is key!

[@michaelptm2269]

I do ATG and use CrossFit Linchpins workout of the day (usually 20-30minutes a day) with one heavy day a week (1 hour) I have been doing this for 5 months and have already PR on my 8km, 5km and also on almost every move weight lifting movement. Great video

[@spencerjones8269]

Have checked out Keegan Smith's Tendon secrets video? Some key aspects are movement sequencing. Personally I translate this into blood flow centric workouts. It's helped me blend the ATG style with muscle building and accelerated my tendon/ligament strength beyond the ATG system. I'm also a huge fan of his dense strength methodology and find that training the connective tissues with antagaonistic movements (bicep curls in the same session as tricep presses) combined with all this ^^ makes me feel like robocop. HEAT/BLOOD Flow first: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5TJoH-OoslgnJI

[@gbsk12]

What is ATG?

[@VictoriaDorsano]

ATG is a program and online coaching system made by Ben Patrick to help with mobility and strength in the joints

[@apathetic6309]

So tired of YT vids that turn into commercials trying to sell things...First earn some credibility b4 diverting to some other subject...U lost me forever

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Are you talking about sponsorships? I’m sorry to tell you this, but 95% of KZbinrs & content creators earn most of their income from brand partnerships and sponsored ads because producing content doesn’t inherently make money. The best we can do as creators is to partner with brands that we truly believe in and have products that we think would benefit our audience. That’s just the way it works.

[@crutialfoe]

​@VictoriaDorsano you don't have to explain yourself, keep putting out good content!

[@kxkxkxkx]

​@@VictoriaDorsanohow trash 💯

[@VictoriaDorsano]

🫶

[@erenjaegerbomb8653]

​@@kxkxkxkx is this literally your first day on KZbin? How is this new to anyone lol

[@dubtube6691]

6:10 she noticed something

[@DJStroble]

I was gonna do them but never did them…

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Never too late!

[@wstarr-t5p]

good for you! most of the exercises he recommends are actually harmful to the meniscus cartilages, especially if you already have small tears! these exercises shouldnt be done before a complete MRI of the knees

[@rustler08]

You went one extreme to the other and got pain? Shocker.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

I wouldn’t call them extremes. Both have been parts of my training for a good while. I just allocated more time to explosive movement.

[@Will-z7z]

Psalm 11:5 New American Standard Bible 5 The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, And His soul hates one who loves violence.

[@dreamervanroom]

OK she is an athlete. She wanted to press her activity. Oh well. Is interesting, she wanted to press and see what happens. Then it hurt her knees. She feels stronger in her muscles but weaker in her joints. Now she saays she is going back to ATG and blend that with the other.

[@lymedog3176]

Well , my dear welcome to the world of “getting older”… you overworked your body , between lifting and volleyball on un even sand and the the machine (your body) is wearing out. When you start to experience multiple joint issues and chronic pain,even with ATG (which I know works) , then a change is needed. CrossFit is ok, but the abuse on the tendons and joint is sever. Work on keeping the joints , connective tissue and ligaments strong and supple, then incorporate weights or CrossFit into the ATG program. Mark Bell is still a pro weight lifter but keeps ATG as a core element.

[@rossbushell9310]

Stop the stupid explosive movements That’s what got you injured

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Power movements are needed for enhancing performance in certain sports like volleyball. So it’s not about stopping them. It’s about integrating them with ATG work.

[@EdBarton31]

Kind of stupid to get stronger muscularly and weaker in your joints. It means you actually are more injury prone and won't be able to play your sport at all. Better to gradually increase load with atg as your joints and muscles grow in balance to prevent injury and build on an increasing strong base. You are trying to shortcut the process when there are no shortcuts because joint strength takes longer to build than muscular strength.

[@VictoriaDorsano]

I’ve been doing ATG for 2 years now. I completed the zero, dense, and standards program. I don’t think I’m short cutting the process by any means. I think I just needed to incorporate more explosive movement and find a combo training approach that works best for my sport.

[@scottyschade]

are you able to dunk yet

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Easy peasy!

[@anatta467]

crossfit workouts are the fastest way to break your body

[@aorippedbandaid3711]

my baady

[@warningmode]

She needs to just get to the point she's just talking and talking

[@VictoriaDorsano]

Good thing you can just skip through most of it then, right?

[@dr.dylandelorenzod.c.8271]

Better fix your gut girl

[@VictoriaDorsano]

My gut is completely fine!

[@dr.dylandelorenzod.c.8271]

@@VictoriaDorsano wanna bet?

[@VictoriaDorsano]

I do, absolutely.

[@dr.dylandelorenzod.c.8271]

@@VictoriaDorsano let’s run a GIMAP then. You game?

[@VictoriaDorsano]

@dr.dylandelorenzod.c.8271 not enough evidence yet on those tests for me to feel comfortable with their accuracy. Maybe in a few more years if there are better studies available I’ll reconsider!