I Successfully Ran PCVR From A Phone!

[@sethdomings9262]

Insane what mobile hardware is capable of. Cant wait for future hardware to advance and be able to play PCVR titles with no issues.

[@nyulia4491]

mobile hardware are getting closer and closer powerfull as an light capable pcvr hardware we just have to wait

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

yeah. too bad no one is creating an OS to utilize their power. Android is land locked by it's own limitations, Apple is too controling, Microsoft only cares about desktop, Linux community is SO focused on "we are so open sourced that we can't standardize anything for normie users only developers can really utilize our OS properly" community involvement that they hinder their own production making adoption too slow thus actually good projects fall through. maybe, just maybe, valve is the only one smart enough to utilize ARM fully for gaming and VR capabilities while also having Linux developers piggy backing on those users brought to their platform/OS ecosystem.

[@私は存在しません]

iphone?

[@vidal9747]

@@ericwheelhouse4371 I almost felt like defending Linux, but then I realized that you're totally right. I love Linux and daily drive it, but it in fact lacks standardization across distros. Maybe snaps could solve it, but they also have some problems. But sincerely, if you are new to Linux just use them.

[@KWez256]

😎🙌

[@SCP-POOL]

Your Mom rocks! It's awesome that she understands the importance of supporting your interest. I'm 46 & my mom still gives me crap about tech anything & I was a Network Engineer for 20+ years!

[@voltagemike4457]

thats kinda sad, pretty sure usually parents who gets it are into tech themselves, including my own mom. the only thing i was really righting is the reasonnable screen times, or priorities, thats it ( of course i got specials conditions so thats aint full truth, but specifically parent issues on this, pretty much )

[@dkongvr]

Big man of you support others even if you are not as fortunate

[@anthonypimentel7218]

Damn my mum destroys my tech. Lost out on so SO much money

[@THEIKIGAIEXPERIENCE]

this needs more recognition. having XR technology run natively without being tethered to a PC whilst still having top performance and fluidity for different experiences will be a game changer. I can see improved and powerful ARM-based CPUs being the future of this technology. (Don't forget, Apple has the powerful and efficient ARM-based "M" Series chips put in Macbooks and iPads.) All-in-all, we have the technology, we just need the focus on XR innovation.

[@zackhack_gamer2487]

Laptops be like:everywhere,anytime I have no issues with my laptop running PCVR games

[@thedoomslayer5863]

@@zackhack_gamer2487 that's not it at all. We're talking about every headset being able to run to a PC without any physical wires connecting the two but still perform as if it were wired. That's the future. Standalone won't be anywhere near PC level for many years still if ever but making wireless perform as wired does now is the hope here.

[@THEIKIGAIEXPERIENCE]

@@zackhack_gamer2487 I agree with ya. PCVR is very powerful compared to stand-alone VR devices. BUT, being tethered to an external power source defeats the purpose of true physical and "virtual'' freedom and could be a plausible cause for discomfort. the future is wireless. the future is portability. any time, anywhere.

[@Raphajobinn6868]

we already have the snapdragon X Elite from qualcoom which is much more powerful than the snapdragon XR 2 Gen 2 from quest 3, using foveated rendering would be even better, i really hope meta creates an extremely powerful VR/AR headset similar to the apple vision pro but without all the defects it has.

[@uncraftbar]

The quest/pico headset not only have more performance, they also dont have to stream the game over virtual desktop wich takes a bit performance away. Great to see it working.

[@SunnyOhm]

This. BeatSaber was quite smooth on the tablet's screen, it was the other end of the stream on Quest that lagged and stuttered.

[@WujiKami]

Cool little project. After seeing this I have the feeling one of Lynx's two future headsets just might be able to do this properly X)

[@sudilos1172]

My friend, you are dangeriously close to making your own VR gear =D

[@capyvr_]

Hello it is me capybara I am back

[@coyoteboi9291]

glad youre back

[@mythtorrent1808]

Hello capybara I'm glad your back

[@Giga1023]

Welcome back friend 🎉

[@Rolaniscool]

I will kill you in 7 days capybara!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@theholypickle4861]

HE IS BACK

[@TheDuckter]

OK message before the video, I swear if its pluto sphere... After video, yo this is sick! Mystical I love your videos, they make me happy :)

[@adr2t]

Really it just comes down to API support (for features and performance improvements at the game engine level) and GPU (for running everything) CPU doesnt matter as much as most games try to use the CPU as little as possible anyways. Neat idea and it goes to show there is a lot of room for stuff like this in the future (such as a puck).

[@YoungMoneyFuture]

Love you bro! Your passion & great content brightens my day and motivates me to learn how to Dev!

[@joristhepony4518]

Thx for including my friend @Arminas 0:57 - 1:00 in here. Appreciate it @The Mysticle

[@P2bowish]

Dude you’re not be of the best people for vr news. You helped me a lot with sidequest and pcvr so thank you alot!!! Anyways thanks mysticle byyyeeeeeeeee

[@meareAaron]

i wonder if you can do the same to a steamdeck and have the steam deck screan act like an side by side screen like with the oldschool vr googles for phones

[@rhetz1562]

Oooo I like where ur going with this

[@jaysoegaard]

This is the future of Vr . Just the tech needs to be improved. A flagship spatial computing phone is the way to go

[@pineapple-rr5hl]

This running on red magic 8 pro over clocked would be awesome. This gives me hope for the value deckerd

[@AmiralXII]

It’s really cool to see you experiment with this !!!

[@RazzleBloq]

Idk what’s better the fact that your playing beat saber on a tablet or that your arms look like forklifts while playing.

[@plasticlife283]

I don't know all the specifics that go into this. I would have to research myself, but I was seriously looking into doing this on my unlocked S23 Ultra. I'm a tinkerer, so I'm not afraid to do it. It would certainly be interesting if it worked well.

[@plasticlife283]

I should also note that I have the 1TB 12GB RAM version, so it should have more than enough storage and RAM.

[@voltagemike4457]

same , never running android stock, for audio processing reasons mainly , but quest 2 is not something i enjoy more so let alone this

[@Raphajobinn6868]

Imagine a redmagic 10 pro with a snapdragon 8 gen 4 and 16GB or more of ram, using the foveated rendering of a quest pro or other headset, what a monster that would be.

[@PixelSheep]

The fact that the Xiaomi Unlook process takes at least one week shows just how dedicated you are :D writing this from my custom ROM Redmi Note 10 Pro :D It's really stupid they artificially make you wait for 7 days ^^ it's annoying af

[@Hayden.999]

this makes me so excited for the future of vr

[@TheTytan007]

5:24 It's not just an ARM chip. It's and ARM chip that isn't even supported by both Microsoft and Qualcomm to run anything, but Android and it's still pretty impresive. Supported devices give even better performance, because they get all the up-to-date drivers and use chips made for Windows I think that Microsoft's emulation layer is actually good. You've been running it on a chip that is weaker than any chip designed to use with Windows made after 2019. And yet you managed to do game on this.

[@LitoMike]

i love how in the thumbnail it implies that he's running pcvr (well more like phonevr) on a quest 2 (standalone headset)

[@TheMysticle]

I honestly can't figure out how you read it like that.

[@Disabled_Toad]

you i've did this on my chromebook and it is epic. Keep up the great content! (not the same proccess (kinda) but steam vr still runs)

[@Yipper64]

im very certain that once AR gets to the point it can replace your smartphone, it will. I imagine advertisers would love to *constantly* be able to show you ads, among other things. But also just the convenience of not even having to take your phone out of your pocket. the fact that phones now can run PC vr means that when that does happen it could also replace our computers. I wouldnt be sure on that, but I guess thats possible.

[@moorishstar]

I like it a lot, but wouldn't standalone PC vr also work on a Steam Deck which is more powerful? Granted the deck is an actual PC by itself, but it's none the less a handheld and standalone device.

[@PracarYT]

It can somewhat run vr games Even half life alyx at 60 fps But steam deck was turning its fans at full maximum so steam deck theoratically can run very simple titles but it definitely need just little more power for it to run vr

[@foreverstream]

Would be cool to see this tried with a optimized version of windows like tiny 10 or atlas os if possible

[@thedoomslayer5863]

I await the day Linux or some other OS can have 1:1 simplicity and ease of use with windows but not be a buggy, restricted, spyware filled mess like windows.

[@cobwebblocks]

have you tested tiny10 / tiny11 (windows but less usages), might not work for renegade but idk, maybe?

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

Makes me wonder Valves next stand-alone headset based off of Steam Deck tech

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

So it made the job simulator more realistic?

[@Horendus123]

I bet valve already has beat Saber running at 90 FPS on an arm chip via steam VR somewhere in a dark lab

[@vrmonsi]

The main detail I’m focused on and trying to understand is how did steam vr just open? I watched this video 3 times and don’t know how steamvr opened with no issues, would love a update!

[@Cart1416]

I wanted to do this but my US S22 Ultra isn't supported by Windows yet

[@Dexterity_Boost]

Wow thats soo cool how much far tech has come

[@duk6897]

what if we try getting pcvr running standalone on the quest 2/pro? would there be a way to maybe install windows or maybe a virtual machine?

[@jupiter4264]

Does this mean PCVR for M1 Mac is finally coming since phone is ARM and Mac is ARM?

[@liamcollinson5695]

What a good idea it does make me wonder how well the redmagic 8 pro would do with it being a 8 gen 2 and having upto 16gb of ram and a fan to keep it chilled

[@PixelSheep]

Does the Pen input on the Mi Pad 5 still work when using it with Windows? That would be a game changer :D

[@somentertainment]

Its amazing! Did you try to play pc games like left 4 dead, or the result 0ll be the same of the last try?

[@BloodSinEngraved]

Over a year ago I was trying everything to find a way to get vr running. My lady and I are for lack of a better word poor. I had gotten her used headsets in the past but the old potato PC I have barely runs what we play. Eventually I sold off a few things to get her a Quest 2. I would have loved not being forced to be part of the Facebook data collection team.

[@yagizeraslan]

If Snapdragon 860 can perform like this, I wonder how the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chipped devices (like Samsung S23, Xiaomi 13) would perform 🤔

[@thedoomslayer5863]

Maybe by Samsung S300 it will run and look good wireless as wired does now lol

[@adithPrakash-x2f]

doesnt the oculus quest use a much weaker chipster than 860 yet maanges to run many vr games?

[@ekointothefuture6743]

Oh man, I would so love to have stand alone PCVR..Right now I PCVR from a Cloud PC until I can afford a real computer. So long as I have access to decent Wifi I can do PCVR anywhere with my Quest 2, but it isn't perfect. I'm at the bare minimum requirements for internet speed to PCVR. In a few weeks tho I'll be upgrading my internet massively. Love this vid. More technology mashups please.

[@oculusgounlocked]

You might have also tried connecting with Riftcat and ALVR

[@mizo.mp4]

strap a mini pc on ur chest and a battery in ur pocket, connect a vr headset to the mini pc and try playing the forest in a forest

[@raphaeltrombini4142]

You should try it on your Pico 4 man, the OS is incredibly open and there were some gossip about people trying to root the device. It is basically a full fledged android 10 over there

[@flamingscar5263]

Without bootloader accsess you can't, plus you need the stock OS on the actual headset because without it you just have a glorified screen glued to your head, the OS is what handles tracking data, no OS, no tracking

[@voltagemike4457]

i may be missunderstanding the appeal of this ngl, the point of using a phone is having absolutly 0 VR capable pc accessible, your pico is most definitly more powerfull or optimised than this

[@DevVRAR]

Would be amazing to see this on a Red Magic 8Pro plus which has the same chip as Quest 3 and allows you to fully up the clock speeds with Diablo Mode.

[@KevinNhi]

I wonder how well it'll run on a better hardware without a whole bunch of background processes which windows has

[@bioticsla]

Yes love crazy experimental videos like this

[@Zuggeerr]

It's a hard topic to crack. There must be interest in pcvr from hardware and software developers. Sure, someone could just take an amd chip with decent rdna graphics and throw it into goggles with some fancy modified windows or linux with proton, but power constraints, heat distribution would be hard to overcome, and the headset itself might be too heavy. On the other hand, I think it's still better to have a decent laptop to run pcvr, but perhaps in the future we'll have a 3080 performance tablet/phone chip that justifies the usefulness of such an idea of ​​running pcvr on it.

[@srers357]

If this works then surely the steam deck could run vr right?

[@FoolianSlip]

damn it'd be so sick if they bring back the cardboard headset and you just use your phone for modern vr. it would make vr way more accessable for everybody maybe you could just connect a bluetooth controller too

[@xhappymasksalesmenx4092]

Optimization is what will make pcvr on standalone. Steam is definitely doing that with the steam deck. Using it to optimize standalone software

[@federal5688]

maybe we will able to mod pcvr in the quest 3 since it will be way more powerful than the quest 2 right?

[@Deathbatman]

I think if you used an Ethernet adapter the fps on virtual desktop would be working better

[@TheRealLucifer-Morningstar]

Who's that old man at 5:24 in the background?

[@JamieCrew]

Now you can conceptualize how powerful pcs are.

[@SirQuacksalotthe1st]

Dam I remember finding out about this a few years back and was amazed at it it's come so far damm

[@susantuna3434]

This just made me wish windows phones still where a thing I miss those Nokia with windows on them I love them

[@635574]

So can we just run desktop game son mobile now? Warframe is working on a mobile port but the beta is not available on android yet and I want to see if a Decent phone can play full warframe when using mouse and keyboard

[@Parzival-h1o]

That’s crazy! The only objection though is that meta probably would do everything in their power not to allow steam vr. Next time you should try boneworks

[@charliepettigrew2818]

i just thought, does that tablet have a proper graphics card? if not, imagine the possibilities if it was done properly, with a GPU!

[@manp1039]

What is puzzling to m is i thought that PCVR with the quest 2 would not work in windows unless you had specific GPUs. How did you get the oculus software to by pass that GPU restriction in their software? did i miss something??

[@TheMysticle]

Virtual Desktop actually bypasses this restriction 😃

[@manp1039]

@@TheMysticle can you clarify how you are getting steamVR to connect to your oculus quest 2? Are you not installing the oculus software on your pc? Are you only installing steam/steamVR and virtual desktop on your pc to get it to connect to your quest 2 and make it work??

[@TheMysticle]

@@manp1039 only SteamVR and virtual desktop. I install both of those and run SteamVR without the Oculus software. That bypasses Metas requirement for any specific GPU

[@manp1039]

@@TheMysticle thankyou very much for the info. I will give it a try on my PC. If this works you will have helped me tremendously. I had thought i needed a gaming pc with a high powered gpu to get PCVR to work with my oculus quest 2. Thankyou for your help

[@Cocomonk.]

You should do gorilla tag because my computer isn’t even vr ready but I can still play with a 740 Hz graphics card

[@shadowswithin702]

So is it possible on the steam deck, I mean that has steam on it already? I don't know what the chip or ram is in them, but maybe it's possible...

[@kiro_derg]

its only a matter of time until someone makes a modified version of windows to be able to run windows and pcvr games natively on the quest 2/pro

[@RidgeVR]

Now what if we emulate windows on a Quest Pro or something and try to run PCVR on it? Interesting...

[@ukupacha5033]

I’m like how did you get Danny DeVito in your video???? 😂

[@TheMysticle]

I asked very nicely xD

[@Hughesburner]

I just found the lost Super Carlin Brother.

[@phaphachboy]

Wonder how well it would work with steamos

[@gangstashinchanGangGameing]

I wonder how it would run on a windows tablet or an I pad

[@koloax]

Wow. Standalone vr is going to be fucking amazing in the future. We don't need Android ports anymore. We can get the graphically beautiful pcvr in our mobile headsets :D

[@ian2057]

nice algorithm pleasing thumbnail

[@TheMysticle]

🤣

[@aidengrassinger4378]

Try it with tiny windows because it is much easier to run!

[@thepcgamer7678]

Can you see if it's possible to play pcvr somehow on like a $200 laptop with no graphics card I mean if it's possible on a phone but probably a phone is still more powerful than a cheap laptop at Walmart

[@enthusiastvoid]

the beat saber on this ran as good as my intel i5 4570 could run this with its igpu

[@proxivirus]

Do I need to try this out on M1 iPad Pro using QEMU? 🤔💭 Edit: AltStore has a bug right now so this test is gonna have to wait until they fix it

[@RomboDawg]

This guy is gonna have his mind blown when he discovers that a suface pro tablet exists

[@TheMysticle]

That wasn't the point of the video. I have a surface. The project was to run PCVR on a Snapdragon chip similar to the one in the quests.

[@Frankie-f3y]

9:35 I would play PCVR games so like that, but it would be so hard because my thing Windows all my android tablet shut off

[@RidgeVR]

Try it again with SteamOS and ALVR!

[@Chwill76]

Imagine being able to do it on an iPhone 15 with the usb c and the unlocked app stores

[@secondcut3138]

How about the Microsoft surface pro 7 or above, tablet/laptop with an i7 processor

[@Micarsei]

OK so here’s my thinking right: if this is capable of pcvr, what about that RoG gaming phone? The one that has an attachment to help you cool it and all. I reckon if the software works it would be great for this

[@Arm1nas]

No, the software doesn't work for it. This phone's SoC doesn't have the required drivers ported for Windows to work.

[@Megamind283]

Wow I'm surprised you could get it to work

[@RedPandaVR]

You didnt had the lowest graphics in beat saber

[@TheGamingExperiment007]

Can you change it back to your normal tablet

[@Hufi2.]

Are there any ways to use an android phone to stream to vr. Reason being my phone is a lot more powerful than my quest 2. Snapdragon 8+ gen 1 (8GB)

[@Goosboi]

you should try again with tiny 11 or atlas os

[@proteinchips]

If you are to ever make another video demonstrating this you need to try Minecraft VR as you can already run Minecraft on ARM natively.

[@TheMysticle]

It unfortunately doesn't start 🙁

[@DoomRater]

This is the point where I'd just use a Deck. I'm fascinated by what people have achieved though.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

This is truly insane. Apple has proven that x64 emulation on ARM is viable. I think Microsoft needs to make it work. A Surface that can outlast every other Windows laptop on the market would be big for them. Unfortunately, like consumer VR, I think Microsoft just isn't interested in doing that beyond the bare minimum

[@sniperstyx]

I recently got the Asus ROG Phone 6D Ultimate that has the Mediatek Dimensity 9000+ which should be on par with the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 and slightly better than the Snapdragon XR2 (maybe on par with the XR2+, found in the Quest Pro). I really wanna find someone that could possibly run PCVR on a Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1/2 phone or even the phone that I got. I don't wanna risk my phone for this experiment unless it doesn't require uninstalling the Android OS just to install Windows 11 on it.

[@zombiehippo9477]

What about installing windows APK or something akin on the quest itself??

[@comedicidiot]

We've done it boys, true PCVR without a PC

[@TheMysticle]

I guess some could argue that we turned the tablet into a PC 🤣 I however, agree with you. We've absolutely done it.

[@enfari3491]

How'd he put window's on mobile..?

[@pcg3763]

i kinda wanna try this cuz my phone has a snapdrag 8gen2 and i think that it has about the same performance if not a lil less as the xr2

[@Magidiny123]

Can you please try running VR on a Snapdragon 888 Chipset device please?

[@ariasavirgo9171]

It’s so crazy it just might work

[@jan_harald]

yeah, people these days often don't realize their phones and tablets are literally as powerful as low-ish end computers, just, android is more optimized for them than winblows is for potato-pc

[@ThisisBeto]

Try it on a M1 mac

[@chrisschristov475]

Rendering on both screens doesn't help 😂 overall amazing video 🎉