I switched to AMD from Nvidia

[@williamjosephs-miller6392]

I was honestly surprised when I saw you didn’t have 100s of thousands of subs. Keep up the great work!

[@PixelSheep]

Same :D

[@dexmoses6887]

Same here but I'm adding another subscriber to his list

[@OneHandleToHandleThemAll]

Sadly not enough click bait and fancy thumbnail to get the views.

[@TheBinklemNetwork]

Facts

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

I'm super happy with my 6800 XT. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a GPU this much and I'm 40 going on 41 years old. My first 3D accelerator was a Creative Blaster 3D Voodoo. I've had cards from 3Dfx, S3, ATi, nVIDIA, Matrox, AMD, Intel, etc. I generally have bought a new card each generation and often times one from a few competitors each generation (I'm an enthusiast). I've had all of the greats. Voodoo 2, GeForce 256, Radeon 9700 Pro, GeForce 8800 Ultra, Radeon HD 5870, Radeon HD 7970, Radeon HD 290x, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Radeon RX 5700 XT, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, Radeon RX 6800 XT, and plenty of cards on the side. The 6800 XT has so many features while performing extraordinarily well. It overclocks quite easily, which isn't always the case with AMD, hitting 2.8GHz on water with ease (as easy as moving the slider in Wattman). The GDDR memory overclocks to 2,150MHz with Fast Timings, as easy as moving the slider. You have full control over the cards voltage at various intervals and clock speeds, everything can be fine tuned. It's not just a graphics card, it's a toy. It can be tweaked like a well oiled machine. And it's not just voltage tuning, clock tuning, or power tuning, there's also the Radeon software that has so many nifty features like Boost, Chill, etc, that I can tweak my game profiles on a per game basis with the clocks I want the game to run at, the feature set, the voltage, the power level, etc. I mean maybe I want enhanced sync with Radeon Sharpness and the game isn't as intense as it's not a competitive game so maybe I just want it to run at 60 FPS, I can use Radeon Chill, I can use Wattman to lower the clocks, lower the voltage, lower the power level, etc. Game is tweaked, inside the game... you get additional Radeon features should the game support them to push this even further. I think the best way to look at it is that nVIDIA is like iOS and AMD are like Android. Out of the box, iOS is impressive but the flexibility of Android allows you to tweak things beyond what iOS is capable of achieving. I am so impressed that if AMD keeps this up and continues to improve at the rate they have improved with RDNA and RDNA2 with the upcoming RDNA3, they will keep me as a customer (For example they need to fix their encoder. Period). If they do they keep this up, I may in fact never go back to nVIDIA. That's how impressed I am.

[@RedEverything]

It's funny that you mention iOS and Android, because the Nvidia userbase (the fanboys specifically) have an almost Apple like cult going on. The "AMD drivers" meme will never die for this reason.

[@jaydaytoday3548]

My first gfx card wasn't even a dedicated card. It was an Nvidia GPU built into the motherboard I used back in the early 2000s.

[@odiebo]

You named off some cards I haven't heard of in a long time. I still have a Quantum3d Obsidian sitting around. Quake 1 Multiplayer was a powerful incentive to drive the 3d graphics market.

[@wakingfromslumber9555]

I remember buying the 3dfx to play Quake 2 on my pentium 133.

[@njgrant3988]

I have a 6900xt

[@Jacob-tp1ue]

Luckily, in the past few months AMD made a few tweaks to their encoder to bring it much closer to Nvidia's. Along with this, FSR 2.0 was released, which brought better fidelity.

[@johnper2302]

@@vikingsfan2218 Go away

[@socloseagain4298]

can u stream with amd cards as good as nvidia cards that have NVENC?

[@discovery_af]

@@vikingsfan2218 Lol fanboy

[@discovery_af]

@@vikingsfan2218 Sorry for that comment. It just sounded like fanboy banter to me. But you are right about Nvidia being a better buy at MSRP due to their features. I've bought both Nvidia and AMD and I always liked that AMD cards become competitive with their pricing. Just wanted to add that fsr 2.0 isn't really behind dlss. The execution of both are different. Dlss does seem good with quality but there seems to be a performance drop while fsr is somewhat the opposite. As for driver support, AMD is like a double edge sword. It starts off like shit (which sucks), but it gets much better as time goes on. They support their cards for a longer period of time and performance does get a boost. That's why the AMD fine wine meme exists. As for the encoder, a lot of people ignore that amd has a really good HEVC encoder. It's honestly better than NVENC. It doesn't get mentioned because alot of the conversation is focused on streaming. Twitch and KZbin have supported x264 for the longest time and that is where NVENC shines a lot and beats the AVC encoder from AMD.

[@Jacob-tp1ue]

@@socloseagain4298 Again, it's not AS good as Nvidia, but very close. AMD cards are also superior when it comes to H.265/HEVC encoding.

[@bardavidson2102]

I've been in a similar position as you ,in my region the RX 6800xt was 45% cheaper than an RTX 3080 so I went with that. it's been 8 months now and I'm pretty happy with it.

[@WRXGrizzly]

Me too, I love my 6800 XT and might bump up to. 6900 XT later

[@michahojwa8132]

Same story with 6700xt vs 3060ti in my case.

[@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813]

I bought a 6600xt at msrp and i am really happy switching from a 1060 6gb, it has 1 problem tho , i use a vga moniyor and i have to replug it every time my monitor goes to sleep or after restarting. I got used to it after almost 2 months

[@Anukinihun]

@@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813 time for a new monitor bruh you can get a 1080p IPS 144hz monitor for $180

[@red23rd]

What? Man you are lucky dudu, in my country RX 6800xt is only 5% cheaper..

[@SleepyRulu]

Finally someone make a objective pov no fanboying from neither side.

[@tw1tch09]

Exactly

[@travisjones2089]

nivida has stock in OBS lol so OBS wont work as good on outher platforms

[@at4legendz]

@@travisjones2089 Its okay I have a Ryzen 9 5900x so I stream and record while gaming but I use my CPU to encode everything

[@at4legendz]

most games i play cap out my gpu in the 90% range so i cant stream or anything while gaming in 1440 and most games on ultra i dont even get the 144 they advertised, but they clearly cherry pick those specs

[@sloplayz7442]

Its the same

[@codywheten6242]

I think you've made, and will make, a bunch of fans due to how genuine you are about your thoughts and reviews. I really enjoy this channel, so thank you!

[@LofiBtz]

This man persuaded me too buy the RX 6800, I ain't complaining tho :) Was gonna get the RTX 3070 but changed my mind.

[@GruppeSechs]

@@LofiBtz Settled for an RX 6650 XT upgrade over my 1060 3GB showing its age. I was really on the fence until I saw it for $263 after rebates/promo codes on Newegg (with tax). A 3050 is just objectively worse in games and a 3060 is upwards of 80-100 dollars more. I was originally going to just get a 1070 for $100 or something on ebay, but ebay is sketchy and I felt like treating myself for my birthday. It's been 7 years and a 1060 wasn't even high-end back then!

[@deathrager2404]

the man makes valid points. hard to not like that. idc if he is talking about nvidia or amd. we need more honest people especially reviewers.

[@HeyDan1983]

The thing is that the influencers out there, you know the guys, promotes Raytraycing and DLSS like things you need to have and if you dont have it almost your PC its incomplete and would not work.

[@Ben-Rogue]

Yeah, the same ones who get pre-builts for $5000+ because they just ticked the most expensive options in the configurator... I've seen some clueless streamers. I can remember this one guy had a 240Hz monitor for like a year before someone pointed out he was still running at 60Hz on it XD

[@michahojwa8132]

Nowadays you can enable fsr with pretty much any game - the ray tracing performance isn't that good but on the level of 6800xt it should be acceptable. My 6700xt costed almost half of 3060ti price so for that price difference I've accepted lower fidelity.

[@bradyruth2487]

@@michahojwa8132 eh, in this day of age if you’re getting poor ray tracing performance at the $1200 price point, that’s definitely a let down

[@HeyDan1983]

@@bradyruth2487 so what? Its not a required option, actually I will call it a poddle simulator, its all that it does.

[@getsideways7257]

@@HeyDan1983 It should do Global Illumination, and that is well worth the trouble unless you are into cartoonish stuff. And even cartoonish stuff is fine, but the majority of the games are trying hard to "look real"... which they spectacularly fail at, looking actually worse than cartoons.

[@antoniobrajkovic1977]

Don't you just love it when KZbin algorithm does its job perfectly? Great review and very informative. Subscrived.

[@daghtus]

Same here

[@aboyaser5608]

Kinda creepy tbh, me and my brother have been talking about this, never searched about it. Then this perfect video shows in my feed even thought I've never seen a vid from this pleasant guy.

[@3polygons]

@@aboyaser5608 The algo is now able to dig on your comments, latest videos watched, it "knows" the theme of those videos, what were the videos about. Probably is able to predict what you want to watch next, by a now huge database of the behavior of tons people watching videos, what was the "line" of content they consumed. Yeah, it's scary good.... But it's just code. It's not Skynet. :D :D :D

[@AvroBellow]

I know, eh? Is the sky falling or something? LOL

[@amxaas4450]

The algoritym works only 20% of the time. Most of the time it gives you trashy mainstream videos from big media outlets cause it was whitelisted by corpo google...

[@equilibriumv]

I've built my pc last week due to your recommendations. I really like your genuine style of telling what you experienced, no bs really onto point which we all wanted. Thanks Daniel, hope you get bigger, you really deserve it with the distinctive content you have.

[@ismailfahfouhi]

amd gpu ? do u regret ?

[@equilibriumv]

i am fine with my rx 6700 xt, cant say i didnt had any issue other than some wattman errors( it happened twice i think) but it is ok for its price.

[@ismailfahfouhi]

@@equilibriumv regret yes / no ?

[@equilibriumv]

not at all, loved it

[@ismailfahfouhi]

@@equilibriumv ty my g ,, m stil scared of buying 6600 :((

[@SkullBro]

As someone who switched to AMD a while back - the 'driver issues' are 'the driver will crash, sometimes, just like nvidia'

[@WizeguyGaming]

Tell yourself what you need to in order to sleep at night lol

[@iKri13]

@@WizeguyGaming stop being mad

[@user_nosleep00]

i havent had any problems tbh

[@Pixel_FX]

@@WizeguyGaming Using a 5700XT over 2 years and didnt have a single issue. Most crybabies usually had other programs or drivers or even bad pcie cabling causing crashes. I'd rather have a early software bug than an unrecoverable hardware fault lmao. Just do a google image search with "turing space invaders". yep they are all nvidia 20 series cards. and then with 30 series cards 2000mhz crash shit. So please.

[@AugustGreen_]

@@WizeguyGaming What's that supposed to mean? I've had only one easy-to-fix driver issue in the past 7 years of having an R9 290X.

[@MnemonicCarrier]

As a Linux user, I love AMD GPUs (and AMD CPUs, come to think of it).

[@tontsar91]

Exactly, for a Linux person especially AMD is the only choice.

[@brendanhoffmann8402]

I used an RX 570 for quite a few years and was really happy with it. The drivers weren't too bad. I upgraded to a 1660 super for a couple of years after and was happy with that one too. Now I'm upgrading to an RX 6700 XT. I got it for cheaper than a 3060 so I'm really not fussed about any issues that might come up. So long as it works! (It's an ex-mining card so fingers crossed!)

[@f4rensabri]

I never experience any driver issues with my RX470. Even if there were any I I probably didn't affect my gaming experience (for the games I play). And I only update my drivers if the Windows update pops up or the Radeon utility asks me to.

[@razor8704]

How did it go? Any issues so far?

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

@@razor8704 there would be none 570s are great and optimum driver wise

[@majikulone3608]

AMD has got their stuff together, RDNA and Ryzen are HUGE... can't wait to upgrade my 3700x to a 5800x 3d... just patiently waiting.

[@tw1tch09]

i was thinking of upgrading my 3900x to a 5900x but the increase gains in performance just don't justify the $550 price tag for me

[@gamesntech4827]

@@tw1tch09 true but you get more cores on a single die. You can sell that 3900x too afterwards. Future rn seems more cores=more fps

[@gogolisukisuki]

@@tw1tch09 one can always sell the old one, like I did...all mobos don't support 5900X.

[@overcoercion590]

I went from a 3900x to a 5800x, good boost in performance. Admittedly cant stream as well on one system so, I put the old chip in a stream rig

[@DrakeDaraitis]

Went from a 3600 to 5800x and I love it. Price matched Best Buy with micro center for $370.

[@LampJustin]

Thanks for being so objective! Great video all around! Got a 6800 sold it for a 6700xt as I don't need the power and am very happy with it! The greatest thing about AMD is that they provide open source drivers on Linux, which I run daily, so that's just been a blast! I have a Nvidia in my laptop and their driver on Linux just sucks...

[@thepowerlies]

I have experienced more software issues with Nvidia than AMD... especially the instant replay randomly turning off or not working, making me miss recording moments

[@tysoncoffman7562]

That is a function of NVidia experience a software program, not the card itself. One does not need it to play any game and a few seconds shows how one how it works for use in game. AMD on the other hand has had real issues for many years to finally get to where they are now. Its a good thing they are competitive over the last 3-4 years solid as it keeps one company from naming what ever price they want to for consumers. Intel's introduction of GPU's as long as they are capable gaming cards will also help keep prices in check for consumers.

[@tysoncoffman7562]

@@KZbinTookMyNickname.WhyNot You seem lost in this job application.

[@tysoncoffman7562]

@@connerlawson2293 Anecdotal at its best. Considering the amount of pages dedicated to the topic you clearly are grasping for straws that are not there.

[@cooltwittertag]

@@tysoncoffman7562 I've had so many driver issues with my RTX2070S at this point it's funny to me to see how many people are willing ro fanboy for a multi billion dollar company

[@tysoncoffman7562]

@@cooltwittertag unless you are 0% tech sav, a troll or trying to use rare versions of Linux you are absolutely full of it sir. Not passing that nonsense off around here sniff test fails. Internet and real people using them says otherwise and your anecdotal experience simply wont change that fact. cheers, Mr. Fan boy!

[@69hytek]

This could be the most unbias, REAL review I have seen for anything. All your points were thought out like an actual end user. All the issues you experienced were explained clearly and not too much tech jargon. It was as if I experienced that gpu myself. Great job!

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

well bcs im not qualified to be a tech master or anything near that

[@LeonardoDias-te2gg]

The GPUs I had and enjoyed at most were RX470 and RX580. I really loved that experience with AMD. Recently I upgraded to a RTX 3060Ti. Oh man, I hate GeForce Experience. I miss the Adrenalin software, I miss AMD Link. If the RX 6700xt were available for a similar price when I bought the 3060Ti, I would probably have gone with AMD instead

[@Dark88Dragon]

I was tending between a 6700XT and 3060TI 2 at nearly the same price point, finally went with the 6700XT after a hard time of deciding, guess it were the 12 Gigs of VRAM that made me decide in this way...But yeah, u cant do anything wrong with the 3060TI, best product in the 3000-line in terms of PP

[@yunakobravo70]

I had a rx 580.. Just upgraded due to availability to a 3070. I. Hate. It. So. Much. :( i miss adrenaline.

[@VoldoronGaming]

AMD software is the best. More modern looking and feature rich. NVIDIA just looks dated.

[@Dark88Dragon]

Have to say that I fell a lil bit in love with Adrenaline 2, now also using Radeon Software and Ryzen Master instead of Afterburner and Rivatuner / HWInfo

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

I bought an RX 6700XT (new) for $485,- ! And I'm so happy with it ! 12GB of Vram, perfect for my X-Plane flight sim ! Before I had an RTX 2070 super, and all I got, was stutters every 2 seconds ! *So proud to DUMP that Nvidia crap ! My RX 6700XT is running sooooooo much smoother and faster !* Never seen ANY stutter again ! #Radeon4life Can't wait to buy an Radeon DNA-3 GPU !

[@EXOWill]

My 6700xt is great for 1440p. I also have 2 3070's and they are also very good at 1440p. I set all my games to max settings and all 3 cards run about the same fps around 80-120 fps.. All my machines are on air cooling and the temps are very similar in all. Usually mid 60c's under load.

[@SweetFlexZsDad6969]

Should i buy 6800xt instead of 3070 I'm getting both at same price

[@Krashulka]

Even the rx6600 handles 1440p no worries. Cheers

[@soto575]

I was thinking the same i am between 3038 and 6850 M XT I don't know what to choose..

[@jameskeane8653]

My 3070 broke, they sent a replacement back, I sold it for $2000 aud and then bought a 6900xt for $200 aud more - I haven't missed rtx/dlss and teamed with a 5800x it is an awesome combination at 4k - the amd software is improving. The 6900xt was $1200 aud less than a 3090. I've also had more issues with nvidia gpu's breaking after 2-3 years (I don't overclock)... Even with a 3070 I disabled raytracing as it's a waste of time.

[@ghostedragon964]

got my 6900xt at 1400USD when 3090 is easily over 2700USD, why pay double for same raster perf at uwqhd?

[@chrissmith6653]

@@ghostedragon964 Its funny how pricing changes from region to region, here a 3080 is cheaper than a 6800XT, which almost cost as much as a 3080Ti.

[@mohamedsuhail8772]

Can confirm that 6900xt is within or below the 3080 price bracket in india.

[@ArtisChronicles]

@@chrissmith6653 pricing by region has been pretty wild. It really messes with my mind when I hear about a lot of it.

[@red23rd]

@@ghostedragon964 Man you're so lucky in my country RX6900xt price is about $1950-2800 depend on it's brand and Rtx3080ti is about $2100-2900. If 6900xt price is only $1500 I'll buy it for sure. I will sold my 3080 since it price is around $1500 now, and I bought it when it price still $990

[@RVABIN]

Great job man! Keep going with this good job. The part that you buy your things was very important to me to hear, that means that you're not telling whatever the manufacturer wants you to tell just to repay the gift card, this makes a great difference when receiving these feedback.

[@informedchoice2249]

I bought a Sapphire Nitro+ 480 8GB for £250 not long after they came out, before all this madness! I recently updated to a 1440p monitor. It's been an excellent card, and has performed surprisingly well at 1440p. I imagined I would have to but another card but it's been great. I liked this video for it's honest appraisal and valid info. If you're a gamer and you have heavily favoured titles it's worth seeing which company is sponsoring those titles, as their software affects performance on those titles. This is more noticeable lately with RT being a feature of course.

[@keith1034]

Went from a 470 to a 580 (second hand), then 2 years ago got a 5700xt. Doubled my FPS, and made competitive titles fantastic. Recently went to a 3080, and once again, doubled my fps....it all takes time!

[@narottamakarunanidhi1731]

​@@keith1034for me i came from a 1050ti then to the 3060 then to a 6800, all jump was awesome

[@nyutek]

​@@narottamakarunanidhi1731i just switched from a geforce 1060 6gb to a rx 7900 xtx sapphire nitro+ and damn those are 2 different worlds 😂

[@brandanmajeske]

@Daniel Owen great video, it's good to see an honest review :) Don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but you may not need to reboot the PC if you get the black screen/driver crash - you can reset the display driver by pressing Win+Ctrl+Shift+B on the keyboard. I had to do this a few times with a 5700XT. Anyway, I just sub'd, looking forward to watching more of your content!

[@Ayane13b]

Dude your footage is crisp AF. I'm thoroughly impressed. Also, I definitely have to agree with everything you've said. Hopefully the OBS issue gets fixed sooner than later lol.

[@M4ttNet]

Have bounced between AMD and Nvidia over the years in GPUs many times, and Intel and AMD in CPUs. Get what fits your performance for the price for your needs. Either are always fine. Even when one is "better" it's not like night and day.

[@justacollegestudent5147]

For steaming (not KZbin or productivity you just shouldn’t get an Amd gpu) real time nvenc is so much better. And this is coming from someone who prefers Amd gpus

[@TherconJair]

From some tests I gathered that AMDs H.265 encoder is actually better than Nvidias. Can't use it for livestreaming, sadly (KZbin works I believe), but it could be used to record game footage at a better size/quality coefficient. Might be worth a try.

[@makisekurisu4674]

Why can't they do the same same for the more widely used H.264 format! It's not like they're poor now, they're earning ridiculous amounts of money currently on both CPU and GPUs.

[@TherconJair]

@@makisekurisu4674 they had to pay off massive dept first and it takes a while to develop such things.

[@mechanicallydev4536]

To be fair they are probably racing for the AV1 hardware encoder, instead of trying to win a lost game with h264.

[@elitexcomputing8802]

I have built several low to mid series 30 builds for people, but the ones I made with the 6700,6800 and 6900s all seemed to perform better every time.

[@PrefoX]

steam charts say 3090 sold better than even 6500XT, there is a good reason. and why is this guy promoting AMD on his own channel.. AMD must be fucked so hard

[@JKERNS0824]

My first build and like you said I would have went with a 3080 because of what I heard but after alot of research I got 6800xt along with a 5600x. Absolutely love it. Having smart access memory is a plus as well

[@deus_nsf]

IMPORTANT: OBS just got an update to support KZbin streaming with a native integration: bitrate 50.000 and transcode always available, goodbye Twitch as far as I'm concerned. And for AMD cards that means not suffering the encoder penalty anymore :)

[@NipahAllDay]

That’s dope. I might give OBS a go again

[@52no]

And if people dont have good upload speed?On Nvidia cards people Can stream on youtube wirh h265 encoder wirh less,half bitrate and super quality on hls protocol.But AMD h265 not work for stream.AMD encoder trash.I never again buy AMD GPU.

[@RhoFGC]

That is interesting, thanks for this.

[@colonelangus7535]

Obs still encodes your stream. How do you think it adds overlays and facecam n shit

[@RhoFGC]

@@colonelangus7535 OBS does not encode, an encoder does (which OBS is not) such as NVENC and x264, you as a user can choose the encoder that OBS calls.

[@lassebrustad]

I will for sure consider AMD GPU when I can afford to upgrade, but I'm a Linux user, which means I get way better drivers with AMD than Nvidia GPU's because AMD's drivers are open-source, while Nvidia is closed-source and sucks at Linux with Nvidia on Linux, gaming basically sucks, but with AMD, it's awesome and more games can run properly without issues sure, on Linux, I might not get RT or upscaling yet (haven't really tried with my RTX 2070S), but kinda as you said, it's not really worth to care about it, except upscaling when it's actually required to get a usable FPS, but I do not play heavy games anymore, so it doesn't matter at all for me

[@DKTD23]

Plus open-gl drivers were cleaned up big time and saw very nice gains on 22.7.1

[@brpadington]

I went from Linux to hackintosh and I was forced to go to AMD for that reason.

[@DKTD23]

@@brpadington forced because they support Linux better than Nvidia ever will. AMD drivers have come a long way and are much improved overall.

[@brpadington]

@@DKTD23 They have definitely gotten better. The issue i constantly run into is with older software getting terrible framerates since the card never gets out of idle. There are ways around it but it's an issue i never had with Nvidia.

[@patrickleeastarjohnson2918]

I had a 3070 but got buyer remorse because i wanted a 3080, but then i sold it and got a 6900xt and feel premium 😎

[@rebelprime]

The 6900xt is actually cheape than 3070 in this crazy GPU market

[@jamep2765]

I wanted a 3070 ended with a 3080 tuf oc non lhr so basically the opposite how’s the 6900xt

[@patrickleeastarjohnson2918]

@@jamep2765 it's good, but driver time outs and crashes are common :(

[@jayb88887]

I wanted a 3070 but also ended up with a 6900xt, really happy with it. Pretty surprised about the driver issues, I haven't had any issues at all and overall find the software much better to use (I never bothered with the Nvidia software with my 2070s but adrenaline feels so light weight).

[@patrickleeastarjohnson2918]

@@jayb88887 i have driver issues with bfv constant crash

[@Hybred]

Use the HEVC output format in Radeon Software, you need to get an extension for it Microsoft made in the MStore, since by default you can't view those file types. It provides lower file size and better image quality then normal so it will get closer to NVIDIA

[@Almighty_Flat_Earth]

Does AMD provide a "NVENC h265 equivalent" dedicated chip? NO , but WHY??? Why the hell AMD humiliate screen recording, streaming, encoding and decoding, why AMD's hardware encoding VCE sucks?? Just why? Premiere pro, Handbrake, OBS are performing good using NVIDIA cards because of NVENC chip. Go to hell AMD.

[@tristannn808]

I have heard this just now, although doesn't VLC have the HEVC codec up and running for free?

[@vh9network]

@@Almighty_Flat_Earth if you read up on HEVC, you would know that is a H.265 encoder.

[@fahdali7012]

@@Almighty_Flat_Earth actually. AMD has the better h265 encoding whereas nvidia has the better h264 encoding. The only problem is that h264 is used in a lot more places compared to h265

[@NipahAllDay]

@@Almighty_Flat_Earth bruh, you commented the same crap on my comment in HUB’s video and I already countered your points

[@MRailef]

I've been an Amd user since I bought my first computer in 2008, I've had 8 different AMD GPUs since that time and for me they always delivered untill something like 5 or 6 years after launch. And regarding drivers issues I had really few. Last couple of years I've played many hours online games with friend (I'm usually the only one not using Nvidia) and it was very common for them for the games to crash or have issues I never had. Pretty sure also drivers age really well. I always considered my AMD pc being much more stable than my Intel/Nvidia gaming partners. But then again I also saw my brother running a 5700xt and having many issues with drivers and crashes. Now we both run 6700xt and I'm more than happy on every aspect.

[@chrismorgan7020]

can attest to lots of driver/crashing issues on rx5700xt, hoping the 6700 I just bought is a smoother experience because performance has been great otherwise.

[@royjon2964]

@@chrismorgan7020 how has the 6700 been so far?

[@JayzBeerz]

I bought a Gigabyte 6800 XT Gaming OC and I'm very happy with it.

[@AvroBellow]

I was going to get that exact same one but then found an OG reference 6800 XT for $330 less. I didn't think that I'd ever get an original but I got damn lucky! LOL

[@JayzBeerz]

@@AvroBellow Best Buy had it last night for $1319.99.

[@nenebrex]

I’m running a 6800xt since february ‘21 and so far the only real issue (gaming side) i have experienced is that temperatures are a little too high even with fans runnnig 100% (80º to 84º celsius) on high load. Except that it’s an amazing card for gaming, even more with an AMD CPU and a MoBo that can enable Smart Access Memory, I run Warzone 4K ultra settings getting 120+ FPS avarege. Anyway nice vid, You have found yourself a new subscriber!

[@RollandS]

80-84 is low, AMD considers 100-104 to be normal while 110 is max

[@georgefoley9793]

Thank you for such a detailed explanation of your point of view! I was and still am a value consumer and a casual gamer, which is why I have been using mostly AMD hardware (CPUs and GPUs) for over a decade now with few exceptions. Currently, I am running 6900 XT, but I've also had 6800 XT, 5700 XT, RX 590, and RX 570 before, and I agree that AMD software suite is fantastic when compared to Nvidia, despite all of the other negatives in AMD drivers.

[@asplmn]

Crazy that this is even a valid topic for a whole video. I had Nvidia for over a decade. Went 6900XT back when they launched ($1200, same price I had sold my 2080Ti for). I used logic for my decision instead of acting like a fanboi. Works great, and I don't miss Nvidia.

[@Lilkuro777]

What logic was that.?

[@randomguydoes2901]

@@Lilkuro777 he got a free upgrade. Are you ok?

[@Septix]

Currently eyeing an xfx 6900 xx black but not sure if worth 1700 pre tax. Any regret or thoughts?

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

@@Septix this feels weird to say, bit if you can afford it and you NEED a gpu, don't feel bad if you are forced to overspend.

[@asplmn]

@@Septix meh... Idk. Try and snag one for MSRP

[@Karn0010]

A year late, just found the channel. I was in a similar situation to you, wanted to buy a 3070, but wasn't going to pay scalpers. In December 2022, prices had come down to close to MSRP so I started shopping. After I saw how the 40 series was turning out, the 4070 was probably not going to be amazing for the price so I started looking at AMD. I picked up a 6750XT and didn't regret it at all. It was a massive upgrade from the GTX 1060. I didn't have any issues, and the AMD software is so far beyond what Nvidia provides. So about a month ago I decided I'll buy a 7900XTX because the 6750XT was amazing. As with the 6750XT, I haven't had any issues with it. I haven't done a whole bunch of recording this year so I'm not sure on the quality, but I'm interested in seeing how AV1 performs. Overall I've been happy with AMD gpus so far. I can't comment on DLSS vs. FSR because I haven't used DLSS. No matter how good a recording or screen shot, it won't replicate it enough. If you are in the market for a new GPU, do give AMD a look. Give Intel a look as well if you willing to deal with the issues those cards do have. Ultimately don't be a fanboy for any of them, inform yourself and make a decision based on your needs.

[@conchobar]

Just turned on Smart Access Memory and has seen a nice boost in performance. Very happy running All AMD.

[@thatsamazin-]

Is it worth it for Destiny 2? Or the upcoming Battlefield game? I haven’t tried it yet because I don’t know how to enable it. Kinda scared because it’s my first pc and I barely know what I’m doing. Lol

[@TrisNashty]

I’m actually pretty impressed how well my 5700XT still does and stacks up to its contemporaries. There have been some weird quirks like intermittent black screens but that is easily fixed by switching to a different refresh rate and back. That’s really been my only issue with it. AMD and Nvidia are both making super solid cards right now… really can’t go wrong with either if you get them for the right price.

[@liesandy291]

Mine always seems unstable stock. It works then after like 6 hours it just crash.

[@Ligmaballin]

Would you say Linux has a higher frame rate with AMD cards than Windows?

[@sareebj166]

im so glad that i waited this long, just now ordered 6800xt for 779$ now watching every 6800xt video on youtube before i get hands on it lol

[@theonlysquirrelybird]

In my experience, those black screens are caused by the card trying to draw more power than the power limit. Increasing the power limit in AMD software resolved the issue for me. If the card is overclocked, back off the overclock a bit and/or increase core voltage and power limit.

[@Brandon9400]

What have you found the best results with in their software tuning wise? I.e. overclock, undervolt, overclock vram etc.

[@Brandon9400]

I've been playing around with settings and noticed mining wise the vram boost helped alot

[@theonlysquirrelybird]

It really depends on the card. For mining, some cards like the Rx 500 series need to be set into compute mode within amd software, and playing with memory timings can also increase hashrate. There is no perfect setting that everyone can use, you just need to feel your card out and see what works for you.

[@SageNemesis]

With how AMD has been making pretty big leaps in performance with their new GPUs and CPUs (just got a Ryzen 5600x and it's amazing) I have a feeling the next gen GPUs will be more equal to Nvidia's or even better. I have a 2080 S and I barely use RT. I'm curious to see how the next gen GPU's will stack up against each other. I am happy to hear AMD driver/software have gotten a lot better!

[@samwallace7341]

There are literally 2 games imo that raytracing looks great....control and cyberpunk....and one of them sux....it's not control hehe but agree it not needed. Dlss is great though especially older hardware and laptops

[@SageNemesis]

@@samwallace7341 Never played Control, not my type of game I guess lol. Cyberpunk was a let down for sure but RT does look great in that game. The game is better with mods too lol. DLSS and FSR are both game changers. Love em.

[@RuddPH]

welp.. this did not age well

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

My Ryzen 5 3600 was such a HUGE step up from my aging i5 processor. It's still working great for me.

[@janickpauwels3792]

@@harshpatil9825 What a load of BS. The 12600K costs more than the 5600X, and the motherboards are certainly more expensive. The gaming performance is similar (see video). I do not call that "dominating" at all. Moreover, the 12600K came out a full year (!) after the 5600X. It is actually disappointing that Alder Lake ISN'T dominating Ryzen 5000. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmKcZH-bicyFqLM

[@jessy-jamesriverin-quessy5987]

Just to mention Daniel, if you still have a freeze and you look at the image stand still. don't hold your power button. You can still do ctrl alt delete. Each time I had this issue I did that and log out to log in after. Your game will close automatically

[@Peremptor]

Great job I'm overall pleasantly surprised myself when I jumped on my 5700 after over a decade of nvidia from the 460 to the 980ti.

[@AvroBellow]

You had a similar upgrade to me then because I got an RX 5700 XT after an R9 Fury. However, that was after over a decade of ATi starting with the HD 4870. LOL

[@Peremptor]

@@AvroBellow Honestly the thing to remember is that after a certain level of GPU performance you are getting basically 100% playable framerates on all titles unless you want the best of the best and got the $$$ to pay for it. Right now theres nothing our current level of performance can't handle well.

[@Squishmallows24]

I like ray tracing. Amd sucks at it. If it had the same performance as nvidia I would probably buy amd

[@Anytyme06]

I've had all AMD builds since Ryzen came out and just built a new all AMD PC and it's awesome. I can monitor and manage the hardware, overclock and install drivers all in the same app.

[@ttamn92]

Is there a real benefit from going with an AMD GPU if using an AMD CPU??? I've searched and never really found a real answer either way...I'm really curious about this

[@Anytyme06]

There's smart access memory if you use both processors from AMD.

[@Blackfatrat]

Bougth a used RX 6800 XT for 400 dollars recently, works really well and I'm really happy.

[@MegaCygnusX1]

What's this? A balanced take, on KZbin? Don't you know how the algorithm works? :p Just kidding dude, I appreciate the objectivity. I was kinda in the same boat as you but went Team Green this time around. Have a sub, you deserve many more.

[@FuhqNugget]

It's quite different seeing my old high school teacher being on a KZbin channel! Either way, I've thought from launch that Ray Tracing wasn't a necessary feature currently as it just isn't worth the cost currently (monetary and drawbacks that come with getting the GPU and running RTX). I'm still running my 1070ti and waiting to upgrade, but I am seriously considering AMD cards now. Sidenote: have you heard/read anything about the GTX soldering issues that's been causing bricked GPUs on games like New World?

[@odizzido]

I've heard a little about it. From what I recall it seems to effect multiple brands and I think there was another game that was doing it too? It seems to be a goof on nvidia's engineering side. It would make me hesitant to buy a 30 series card. Honestly the lack of ram is an issue for me too. Lack of ram is an issue I have with my GTX970 and I would rather not have that problem again.

[@MrBendixxx]

I have a 2070 super, and tbh, Ray tracing I can take it or leave it. I will be seriously considering an AMD switch on the 7xxx series, whenever it's released.

[@mckrackin5324]

I'm a bit of an Nvidia fan myself but the past few years have been missed out because of pricing. I've been stuck at the GTX 1070. I ordered an RX 6700XT last night. Even at $1000, the Nvidia competition was $300 more. That's for a 3070. So, for now, looks like I'm team Red. lol

[@mirzaaljic]

$539 for 6800XT on Newegg right now. I'm glad I was patient enough to wait for upgrading my GTX1060 for a couple of years.

[@anonplayerssss7819]

I built my first PC when AMD announced their new ryzen CPU's, so after DYOR i decided to go full AMD: Ryzen 5 3600 and Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT OC. After a year I'm glad with my built and it runs the games I play like a charm. Will prob update again with AMD in the future.

[@ScottADunn]

I had issues with my 6700XT unfortunately. I was trying to go all team red but the 6700XT would flake out when I had a second monitor connected. One monitor was 144hz and one was 60hz. It was fine for a year and then went south. Traded it for a 3060ti and it's been solid :/ I have been AMD CPU only since Ryzen 1st gen and own stock in the company but their GPU division still needs help.

[@trippybruh1592]

I went with the 6900XT red devil around December 21 and the cheapest I could find it was amazon and both 6800 and 6900 were both $1499 so might as well get the newer one and that red glow is pretty badass and supporting Taiwan directly was a bonus.

[@Pokpak_Manoban]

ngl that red devil radeon actually looks so badass

[@castle2910]

Thanks for the review, it’s great to see a review after the original release showing the aging of the tech and how it compares now with driver updates and etc.

[@izidor]

Sold my 2070 Super, bought a 6800 XT and im happy with it. Performance on mass. Not missing DLSS. Drivers stable for me. Software seems also to be better.

[@cLRYY]

More people need to see this video. I owned almost every single RTX 3000 GPU as well as every Radeon 6000 GPU except the 6600XT and 6700XT. Ended up keeping the 6900XT after testing all cards.

[@cLRYY]

@Stephan had the 3080 Ti which performs about equal to the 3090.

[@cLRYY]

@Stephan initially I didn’t. I just wanted the fastest card for the games I personally play. And after a lot of testing that was the 6900XT. Being the cheaper, more power efficient and therefore quieter card was a nice bonus.

[@AirIUnderwater]

Same here. I went 3090. Then 6900 XT. Then 6800 XT. Then 3080 ti. And I'm on 6900 XT in the end. Literally same, better, or within 3% of performance in the games that I play compared to 3090. Less power draw. Less heat. More quiet. I don't do DLSS or ray tracing. Doesn't help me with anything at all. The only negative I have is its annoying to get Valve Index VR going on AMD. 3440x1440.

[@Issvor]

Holy... I misread the published date and thought it was publish in Oct of 2022, and when you said "I got an rx 6800xt for 1200" I about shat and I was so concerned. Crazy that you can find the same cards for literally less than $600 now

[@LunaWaves]

ive actually had multiple AMD cards after sticking only to Nvidia for so long (basically a beta tester lol). they're extremely safe to buy now & the 6800 XT is what you need to aim for if you can afford it. basically a 3080/3090 but you're just saving so much money. no driver crashes, or any issues besides stock. mine is undervolted & has a custom fan profile it's always at like 54-64° under full load. That & fsr being open source is even better than the closed ego crap Nvidia deals with. star of approval ⭐

[@unknowndrift4462]

I am on a 6900 XT and I am running it at full load on 80-90°. Is undervolting safe?

[@MenWereOnceBoys]

What are your ambient temps? And what pc case? Thanks in advance

[@unknowndrift4462]

@@MenWereOnceBoys mine or from the person above

[@raym5463]

@@unknowndrift4462 There are two factors that if too high can damage a GPU - one is heat and the other is voltage. Undervolting drops voltage and in result heat as well. So it is well below it's safe, stock settings. Lowering voltage too much without dropping frequency accordingly can cause crashes and instability issues but there won't be any hardware damage and radeon software resets those unstable settings on reboot so you can tweak them again. As chips differ in sillicon quality you need to experiment a lot with your card to see what voltage/frequencies values are the most stable for your undervolt as going for someone else's settings they recommend might not work for your own gpu and results can vary from game to game or usecases. For example 6600XT I undervolted by dropping frequency by 300MHz and voltage by 50mV card only lost about 10% performance but hotspot temperatures went down from 95C on full load to around 65C.

[@MenWereOnceBoys]

@@unknowndrift4462 both haha :) curious

[@Kenjinetic]

I did buy the XFX Merc 319 Speedster 6900xt black edition limited....back in days and these driver timouts were a nightmare for me. Every friend which had 6800xt didn't have this issue, after some research you can see on official AMD Forum that problem persists with the 6900xt series - mainly and didn't go away, it went worse. I ended up giving up on AMD like some other users did in the thread. To mention the thread im talking about was I believe years old and not a single support answer/help..... I am using 4070 ti yet, everything is fine and most importantly im happy to play games without grey screen, driver crashes....

[@sajithsaji3606]

Bro I have a doubt is there any difference in image quality comparing Nvidia and amd or both r same?

[@Kenjinetic]

@@sajithsaji3606 Image quality depends on your in game settings and your monitor technology. That being said as long as your gpu has enough power, both AMD and Nvidia can deliver same quality. Beside of that if you are interested in using Ray Tracing or Path Tracing, Nvidia is ahead and delivers better performance. If you are streamer, you also profit with Nvidia, not only because of Nvidia Broadcast, also Nvidia started collab with OBS and Twitch, the beta is starting soon and allows delivering better quality. Some people are using Vtubing or Ai Voice Changer, if you like things like that, Nvidia is again the choice you should go. But if you say I don't need none of these, then probably AMD is best way to go. Also to mention Nvidia started developing Nvidia Ace ft. Convai, what that is you can search on KZbin. Some friends of mine sees me as AMD hater, but I am not, for my personal needs, Nvidia just fits better. This one experience with my 6900xt should not represent the general performance of AMD. I just didn't risk second time and just grabbed Nvidia again - I am happy now...

[@mrdespizeme]

To me the thing has always been cost to frame ratio. AMD, at least for the most part, has always been where the value is. At least from my perspective, they are taking less "advantage" of me and my dollar. Obviously, Nvidia makes great products, but charging me crazy prices to boot.

[@kahrhoshe]

Ive actually been saying this for years now. I actually moved to AMD when my son worked for them and i wont lie i got some great free things. That said, ive stayed with AMD on the last 3 builds because of price per performance. Nvidia nowadays is at least 100 more than the comparable AMD card(sometimes a lot more) for literally single digit gains in fps on average.

[@mrdespizeme]

@@kahrhoshe absolutely. There is virtually, at least in my mind, no reason to stay Intel unless you are fanboying hard. Price per dollar, it can't be beat.

[@Son37Lumiere]

AMD and before them ATI have always been competitive and offered more for the money but nvidia knows how to market and manipulate the consumer and so have always had their large dedicated base of fanboys.

[@bubbles1525_]

But and isn't really that much cheaper, well at least in Canada

[@mrdespizeme]

@@bubbles1525_ AMD, here in the states, has always been much cheaper. Even on the high-side of things. Really though, cheaper is cheaper. Doesn't matter if it's $1 or $100, if I can get roughly the same performance across the board with a cheaper AMD build... why wouldn't I?

[@VanceAsagi]

Owner of an RTX 3080 Ti here and I need to say that the AMD 6900 XT is (despite the capacity in VRAM) pretty much the same. Saw side by Side comparisons and the difference was 4-7 frames. Sometimes with AMD in the lead and sometime with Nivida in the lead. *A M D C A R D A R E N O T B A D C A R D S* Anyone who says they are is wrong.

[@7amoodxalmarri]

My first AMD experience was with a Sapphire 6800 XT from Newegg, I live in the middle east and the warranty support was extremely bad. The card worked fine for around 3 months April - June 2021, after that I started experiencing Black screens / Green screens in games, then started to experience it in desktop, and finally I couldn't even use my PC, a lot of people online had the same issue, My card was almost bricked, it wouldn't display anything, good thing I had an EVGA 3080 FTW Ultra to use on the side, for some time I had the 2 GPU's on 1 PC Mining while I wasn't gaming, the 6800 XT Mines perfectly but wouldn't render out anything at all, finally I swapped it with a new 3070ti from a miner after telling him the issue and he was okay with it, good thing I got rid of that trash.

[@Rspsand07]

@@7amoodxalmarri You haven't listed any warranty related experience at all, but that would be through sapphire and not AMD anyways

[@7amoodxalmarri]

@@Rspsand07 I tried, they said talk to newegg since i bought it there, newegg told me to contact sapphire for rma process :/

[@a2raya772]

The Ti stands for tiny improvement on these gpus.. 6900xt is a better option. But Rtx still better in ray tracing

[@yellowflash511]

@@7amoodxalmarri that's just a bad card a problem of sapphire not AMD

[@absufan]

I've always been an nVidia user. Like you, I wanted to upgrade to a RTX 3080, but that never worked out. I ended up finding a 6800XT at the current high but retail price and I went for it. It's been a great experience so far. I really like the software suite that allows per game overclocking and undervolting. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 in Linux with Proton-GE (has FSR built in) at Ultra settings and ~100fps is a great experience at my 1600p ultrawide monitor. As to your recording issues, are you using x264? Unless I misunderstood something, AMD is supposed to support H.265/HEVC encoding which should yield superior video and more reasonable file sizes. Might be something worth looking into? Thank you for your video. I've been enjoying your content since I discovered you this year. Keep up the good work, and good luck!

[@snowmean1]

Oh, if you are playing on Linux (Proton-GE) then AMD is a no-brainer. Still cannot run Forza Horizon 4 on my 3060 laptop using Proton, while it runs without any issues on RX6800XT. FSR patch is phenomenal, and in most cases provides better FSR quality than game developers adding FSR support to the game. I was playing Horizon Zero Dawn on Proton-GE with FSR enabled in 4K and was blown away by the quality. I tried it once more after developers added FSR support there officially, and still prefer Proton's FSR implementation despite interface elements are more blurry there :D

[@JunkieXXLde]

@@snowmean1 you are absolutely right! Though still a niche: not enought tech youtubers point to the exellent Linux support by AMD

[@michahojwa8132]

I've found your channel when you talked about your experiences with 6800xt and liked most of the videos since. They are enjoyable and the subject interests me. You've got what most big creators have forgotten, you set settings according to what you like and for the game to run ok, for example you are not afraid to lower resolution to have the experience you want. Good videos, keep going.

[@Byzkit]

I've been using my 6700xt since late March and I love it. I've never gamed on and Nvidia GPU, but that's because I've only been able to get my hands on AMD GPUs

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

I sold my RTX 2070 Super, and bought an RX 6700XT, BEST choice I've ever made !

[@Byzkit]

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 I still want a 3080 for some reason 🤣🤣

[@liliester4080]

AMD Graphics cards get better with patches, a 6800xt would probably perform really close to a 3090 at this time next year.

[@neutralguy2428]

Yes imagine spending 3k+ for a 3090 XD

[@AvroBellow]

@@neutralguy2428 I had enough trouble with what I paid for my RX 6800 XT (and I got it for $330 less than the cheapest one on newegg!). LOL

[@scottbirkinshaw2009]

Just sent my msi 6800xt Game X trio to MSI for RMA services after a year of trying to get it to work properly. Everything that people say about how terrible the Amd software is whether they're talking about drivers or their overlay is true. Half the time your card will be fine half the time you'll be dealing with anything but gaming. I had the same experience with the 5700 XT last gen, I also have the same kind of problems with my Vega 56 before that. I think after three poor experiences with Amd software, it's time to just admit Amd is not a good way to go if you want a plug and play experience.

[@Kaboomnz]

Informative video, I had been wondering about the 6800XT since I'd planned on getting one over an overpriced NVidia GPU. NVidia launched first though and prices were starting to balloon so I grabbed a 3080 while it was still at msrp. The 10gb VRAM hasn't been an issue but it's not future proof and that really bothers me for the price.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

Bad choice ever, you should have bought an RX 6800XT or even an RX 6700XT would be so much better !

[@bonyfinger]

With the jump from RDNA 1 to RDNA 2 being that huge, thats alrdy a huge win for AMD. Cant wait to see what AMD brings to the table next year with RDNA3, Im hoping for a lot better ray tracing perf.

[@samdixon3719]

Im gonna go from rdna 1 to rdna 3 probably

[@jubayerwasidraiyan5874]

the jump wasn't that big if you consider the price hike, the msrp i mean. The current prices are lovely compared to nvidia's but im talking about just msrp, and hopefully amd will work on their ray tracing and content creation stuff in the next gen because gaming is pretty damn fine but those just suffer heavily

[@bonyfinger]

@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 Yeah true, I was talking just in terms of performance.

[@badass6300]

Ray tracing is irrelevant. FSR and DLSS is what matters most. And don't use historical performance improvements to predict future ones. By that logic AMD would have never had the FX years and Intel would never have had 6th to 10th gen stagnation.

[@bonyfinger]

@@badass6300 I'm not predicting, I'm hoping. Yes Ray Tracing is irrelevant now with current hardware implementations, which is why I'm hoping an improvement from both Nvidia and AMD to make it more mainstream. No need to get so heated man, all I said was what I'm hoping.

[@damienholland8103]

I've used both and don't notice much difference at all. Windows has problems sometimes related to updates, or some other quiet changes they make, and one day, all of a sudden, your computer performance is super slow regardless of which one you use. Then you have to try 10 or 20 different solutions to get it back to normal again. Every year.

[@themadnes5413]

What ive seen time and time again, the color compression on nvidia gpus is way worse then on amd. I upgraded back in 2017 from an r9 390x to an 1080ti and the first thing i noticed how washed out and less vibrant/detailed the picture looked compared to amd. Many people complained about that, but no one is talking about this issue.

[@RedEverything]

I think thats just an issue with Nvidia cards defaulting to limited color space when using an hdmi cable. Imagine all the people out there that don't realize that their gpu isn't displaying colors correctly.

[@themadnes5413]

@@RedEverything I know about that, and ofc changed that too. Still the amd picture looks better. And it's a well known issue.

[@santhnu]

@@themadnes5413 Glad you brought it out, I haven't seen any reviewers talk about it...a side by side comparison of any amd vs nvidia card (current/previous generations, low-end/high-end card) would reveal this - better/truer colors, sharper images & edges...of course there is more VRAM usage on the Radeon cards...also do not think it is a hdmi vs display port issue these days as I've used both...I've been asked to upgrade to an Nvidia GPU, but still remain in the Radeon camp only because of the visual fidelity that they offer

[@Eonymia]

That sounds weird, Harware unboxed saw no difference in testing. There has to be a difference in the settings somewhere, like defaulting to a lower color gamut or something. This is a comment tTim from HW made I'm quoting here, I'd link to the thread, but youtube deletes comments with outside links these days: "HardwareUnboxedTim 1622 points 5 months ago*225 Tim here from Hardware Unboxed. Part of my monitor review workflow involves testing monitors on both Nvidia and AMD GPUs. Two separate test systems, both running default settings in their respective control panels. Currently the Nvidia system has an RTX 3090 and the AMD system an RX 5700 XT I've never spotted a difference between them in color reproduction. I've measured it using my tools in the desktop, web browsers, games. Taken side by side photos and captures. Never spotted any differences. They produce identical images. Because this comes up every so often I did look into it to see if it was worth making a video on but the conclusion was there was no difference so it wasn't worth making a video. Since I can't reproduce it I have to assume it's some sort of configuration issue. EDIT: Back in the day I used to see this occasionally when Nvidia would accidentally default to the wrong RGB range (limited instead of full) but in this particular case apparently that is not the problem so I don't really know how in this case the difference is happening. And those limited/full range issues were a while ago, would have to be several years now "

[@santhnu]

@@Eonymia I'd seen that same Hardware Unboxed video myself 🙂...well, you could up the graphical settings in the control panels on both the amd and nvidia cards to the highest quality to remove any differences between the default settings on the cards....But, I always notice amd's higher image fidelity/color reproduction (best examples to observe this would be on foliage, leather, blood and skin tones of the characters in the game)....now, there are many recorded gameplay footages where it would be evident...check out say Fortnite, Witcher 3 or any other newer titles like cyberpunk on youtube side by side

[@TigerTT]

If I could compare Nvidia GPUs to AMD ones in terms of driver issues, it's like comparing a bulletproof Toyota to a Nissan that looks cool in terms of specs but starts having issues after the first year. That sums up why I'll never buy another AMD GPU.

[@PixelShade]

I upgraded to a 6600XT after owning an Nvidia GTX1070. My brother upgraded from a GTX1060. We jokingly say that we bought the "worst reviewed card ever" (due to the terrible MSRP, as well as the current GPU market)... However, both of us were really surprised of its performance and we couldn't be happier. The Radeon Software is GREAT. And the performance was shockingly good. The "Ultra"-benchmarks we watched on youtube channels didn't really tell the story of real life performance with optimized settings. In some games I got 200% performance of my previous card. (but most are around 160-180%). And my brother got even more of an upgrade. Most games we play either don't have RT, or the RT implementation is just waaay too costly performance-wise. The only game I have been really excited about is Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and it runs great! I run it at 1440p 0.7x Shading rate and 2x VRS. It looks great, looks native. I have 72fps+ with "normal RT". I think people should be less afraid of AMD. Although graphics cards are far from "good value" these days. AMDs makes much more sense due to how expensive nvidia cards generally are. You get much more performance. And both RT and DLSS are way too overhyped in my honest opinion.

[@kognak6640]

6600XT at MSRP was extremely good upgrade for people with a relevant card(at mining) to sell. This was massively missed in all reviews and made people with old cards worth $300-400 not to upgrade to $400 card with double perf because they thought it's not worth of the money. In some cases like upgrading from RX 5600XT would have yielded $200 profit and +35% perf. Just insane opportunities.

[@PixelShade]

​@@kognak6640 Yeah, I agree. :) Especially those with RX5000-series cards (on the Swedish market I see 5700XT go for 600$). I wasn't so lucky myself. I got 300$ for my GTX1070. However, I only paid 400$ for it new 5 years ago. So all-in-all, it was a REALLY good value upgrade. the 6600XT upgrade only cost me 150$ total. and I would consider it it a a small sum for the performance improvement, especially with the total lifetime prospect of these two GPUs (7-10 years... as I intend to own the 6600XT at least 2 years-, up to 5 depending on what happens in the market). Sure the 6600XT is semi-expensive if you buy new. But If you can sell an old GPU it can be a real value upgrade. A lot of reviewers missed out on that prospect.

[@PixelShade]

@Kai You are definitely right. I was also in the mindset that I shouldn't upgrade since I was fairly satisfied with the GTX1070. Like many, once the market "went to hell" it left me with a "feeling" that my hobby became unbelievably expensive. However, after a while I realized that the whole situation functioned similarly to reel estate. People are generally afraid to fork out money to buy something (instead of renting) in case they loose money on it. However, in reality, you fork out an initial investment, after that you just follow the market value. If prices go down you buy your next place cheaply, sure you don't get as much for your old, but it doesn't matter. Same thing if prices go up, then your old place has great value. And this was the case with the upgrade. It's kind of laughable, but l thought my GTX1070 was an expensive card for 400$, 5 years ago. Yet it only lost 1/4 of its value over the course of 5 years. Sure the MSRP of the 6600XT was expensive from a theoretical perspective. but really MSRP doesn't matter in a market like this. I was able to snatch it for MSRP here, and the 150$ difference meant one heck of an upgrade. I would consider 250$ difference would still have been a "healthy upgrade"

[@Adam_Banks]

I wanted a 3090 but the price was so ridiculous, I got my hands on a 6900xt red devil ultimate for a reasonable price, I don’t regret it at all 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sr.chi7741]

I am planning to buy that card. It is on stock at 1500 dollars, while the 3090 is at 2400 - 3000 and gets the same performance

[@Adam_Banks]

@@sr.chi7741 yeah it’s been an awesome card so far, I don’t use ray tracing a lot (just reflections and shadows in cyberpunk and it performs better than I expected) it runs my crazy MC shaders too so I’m happy 😂

[@Adam_Banks]

@@sr.chi7741 and it’s nice that the software is one application instead of a separate control panel and driver installer, idk why nvidia hasn’t done that yet

[@sr.chi7741]

@@Adam_Banks Yes, nvidia software looks kinda complex, but I have a vega 8 laptop and the software is very user friendly

[@Adam_Banks]

@Mat Sci eh don’t care too much for RT, I’d rather trade blows with a 3090 in rasterisation perf

[@krspykreame1]

I bought a used Vega FE and hooked it up to an eiscool AIO block right before the GPU apocalypse started. Fast forward 2 years I'm still trucking running all my games very well in 1440p and saved a truckload of money

[@krspykreame1]

Basically AMD cards age extremely well and generally get MORE performance over time

[@TheSol408]

Excellent content! I wish this video was available earlier since many people who wanted or needed a gpu upgrade such as myself was torn between similar price competitors such as 3070ti instead of 6800xt during the price gouging period. Furthermore, 3070ti on paper/benchmark was slower while the 3080 was extremely more expensive than the 6800xt. Thanks for the video stating the issues because it helps people consider if it really is a big deal.

[@gonzaloruiz398]

I just discover your channel and you doin great broh !

[@dennissmith6783]

I agree, AMD makes some great cards. I would not feel bad about having a really good 6800XT. I prefer nvida if possible.

[@AvroBellow]

For no reason given. That seems to be common among nVidia fanboys.

[@suhdud4646]

I went from a intel/nvidia which i have used exclusively since 2005 and when Ryzen 5000 series cpus and 6000 series gpus were announced, i actually was in the process of a complete new build upgrade from my i7 4970k/msi1070. i decided let me goin head first and give this new amd hype a chance. I managed to buy a 5800x on release and every othe component besides a gpu. Yesterday i finally got a 6900xt at below msrp and have completed my first ever high-end pc and who would have though me to have go AMD.

[@Zack-fu8sn]

My own personal experience with DLSS is that I found when using a higher end card like a RTX 3080 TI I ended up disabling DLSS to get better image quality. When I was using a lower end RTX 2080 super I noticed less of a image quality difference when enabling DLSS, and the more you go up in graphics card performance, the more image quality difference is noticeable.

[@the_dietcam]

I've only owned AMD cards, while about 3/4ths of the PCs I build for friends have Nvidia. The cost to performance (when prices are normal) is competitive, that's the reason I go AMD, and to me that is the definition of being consumer-forward because I had to vote with my wallet and there's no defense for it if your fps is lower or the game looks like play-doh. Anyway, I've never really had any GPU related issues. X570 and Ryzen voltage issues were a thing, that's been well documented and addressed now though, and the solutions back then werent terribly difficult to figure out. I will say one thing though, i used to be a cutting edge feature guy, i always loved using beta OS builds, preview drivers, and insider exclusive software... yeah, eff all that. I'll sacrifice a proposed +10fps in a new game just to sit on a 6 month old LTS driver, as long as im hitting 75hz vsync with no input lag im golden.

[@pjotr5009]

Great video Daniel, thank you very much for this review. We were in serious doubt about the videocard to be installed in our son's new Gaming PC. Your story was the deciding factor for us to buy an RX 6800. Prices in euro's became reasonable in august 2022 so we decided not to wait anymore.

[@chrisvig123]

Prices dropping a lot now…who would have thought 😀

[@ASEWorldClassTech]

I have a i9-10900k, Sapphire 6900XT, G.Skill B-Die 32GB Ram, 1000w PSU and it RIPS... I got a Sceptre 32" 1080p 240hz monitor and for fps games its GOLD.

[@KegstandOG]

I started gaming way back in 96 ish maybe 97. It became evident early on that AMD was far cheaper then intel. Never used an Intel PC until 2012. At that point it just made sense to switch because AMD was no longer better and cheaper. I used radeon GPUS as late as 2k12 also but I switched to Nvidia and the first card was a 1060 6gb. Then I moved into a 2060s. I am 7 years or so into an i5 6600k with the 2060S and 16GB corsair Ram. I play every comp shooter/survival/mmo game on the market. I am currently trying to buy a new pc and at this point thought I would go with AMD because they seemed to return to kings in price/performance. WELL I found the 12600k and plan to go 3080 the 12G version. I have tried to build several systems and the price is so close it's not worth going anything else atm IMHO. 12600k vs the 5600x. 3080 versus the 6800xt just doesn't feel like I am winning switching to AMD atm. My intel build comes in at 1630 and the ryzen build comes in at 1500 with about the same parts for everything but the mobo/cpu etc. Is $100.00 worth 3-5% performance loss? I also exclusively use shadowplay for gaming clips I post to youtube, can I do that with AMD also? I am not a fanboy for either company, I am an old firefighter with kids who want to game also so I am a fanboy of price for performance and longevity over everything else. The only thing that really sways me is I love shadowplay I gues but then again I am a novice. 850.00 this moment for 3080 12g and 6900xt is about the same price and is a step up right?

[@CedricOshea]

amd is still better at price/performance both cpu and gpu,whether it's faster or not.up to you to decide.just remember that you could buy a faster ryzen instead of spending more for intel,and with nvidia gpu you're paying extra for features,not performance.

[@lupierz]

Liked, commented and subscribed. Keep on growing!

[@stopthink9000]

This is exactly why I've been hesitating to buy a new GPU. I've been using Nvidia for 5 years or so, been thinking about AMD, I really like their CPUs. I think you've helped dispel some of my concerns. Thanks!

I've been using AMD since their cards were ATI. ;-) And can't follow all the hate they get from the Nvidia fanbois.

[@thisisashan]

Intel 770 seems like a solid option for price to performance now too. It is performing similar to a 4060, for like half the price.

@@thisisashan You really should learn how to handle press releases and advertisements…

[@Krystalmyth]

@@thisisashan You're listening to ads. Wait for the actual benchmarks. You need to arm yourself against the power of the corpos, man.

[@thisisashan]

@@Krystalmyth lol... I've been in the industry for 27 years. This is not the case.

[@jasonwelsh417]

Just built a 5700x/6900xt system. This next gen looks amazing but I am happy with my choice

[@sajithsaji3606]

Bro I have a doubt how is AMD drivers nowadays bro any issues ? Any stutter issues? Any black screen issues? Please share your experience

[@jasonwelsh417]

@@sajithsaji3606 So far so good. I have tested several games and haven't had even the slightest issue. The performance of this thing is something I am not used to as it is my first high end GPU. I am getting average FPS of 170 in The Outer Worlds on 1440p 144Hz at Ultra while GPU Current Temp stays around 79-82 C, for example. I know that isn't exactly a game that is used for graphical benchmarks but I was surprised

[@RedEverything]

I've owned 2 Geforce cards and 2 Radeon cards over 9 years and honestly can say AMD has been better for my specific needs. Cheaper MSRP, higher VRAM, Radeon Software, Freesync, and FSR. I recently ditched my 2060 for a 5600 XT because Nvidia's drivers don't seem to like Freesync very much. If AMD improves their raytracing performance, i'll probably never buy an Nvidia card again.

[@badass6300]

AMD's MSRP is anything but cheaper. XD The RX 6600xt should be a 280$ MSRP GPU, but it's a 380$ MSRP GPU. The RX 6700XT should be a 380$ MSRP GPU, but it's 470$ MSRP GPU. The RX 6800XT should be a 600$ MSRP GPU, but it's a 650$ GPU. AMD operated on 23-25% profit margins from 2012 to 2018 and then in 2019 with the release of Zen2 and RDNA1 they doubled their profit margins to 45% and then in 2020 with the launch of Zen3 and RDNA2 they increased them to 55.7% while operating at 1/5th of their total expenses compared to the 2000s when they operated at 30% profit margins and now they are selling more than ever... Nvidia is even worse, especially with the gtx 1000 series.

[@notcraig255]

@@badass6300 I don't think the 6700XT and 6800XT have bad MSRPs, the 6600XT on the other hand

[@Lethargy01]

@@badass6300 What's you salary? Let me know so I can get back to you and tell you what it should be based solely on my feelings of what you deserve.

[@badass6300]

@@Lethargy01 Yeah protect corporate intrest... or go read their financial reports. AMD doubled their profit margins in 2019 with the release of Zen2 and RDNA1... Why not sell us GPUs for 100000$ I mean they are companies right? -_-

[@Lethargy01]

@@badass6300 If you would buy them for that much I'm sure they would. You never did tell me your salary so I can decide if you make too much or not. Let me know!

[@The1Jebrim]

As a professional graphics programmer that has to write software on top of these drivers, there are plenty of horror stories I can tell you about AMD drivers. NVIDIA drivers tend to just work out of the box and perform better with the same API calls as well, and that’s just for the core API features. Their extensions push the feature set and efficiency even further. It’s not at all made up notions by NVIDIA fanboys. The reason your game works fine with AMD is because we had to jump through a bunch of extra hoops to get a variety of AMD cards to function fine. It also doesn’t help that there is a separate driver per card rather than NVIDIA’s approach of using one driver for a large family of cards.

[@WithJupiterInMind]

it's an abomination... I just recently learned that I will not be able to enjoy Ray Tracing in my AMD Ryzen chip (possibly the first time in the last 10 or 15 years that I actually felt excited for any new technology... just look at Prboom-RT project for example... or imagine what Ray Tracing will do to games like Skyrim... breathing new life into older games... so it's like double the value)

[@WithJupiterInMind]

so yeah I learned that my chip will not have Ray Tracing, while I learned that Nvidia provides driver updates that bring Ray Tracing capability on older generation of cards going far back as 1060/1070/1080 line (from 2016 !!!!!!) It's just insane... AMD as usual blames the entire world for their mistakes, they're never at fault, it gets old quick

[@WithJupiterInMind]

for some people deciding on a GPU is like a 6 or 7 year investment, most people in the world right now don't have spare income to simply "buy a new one" every 2 years or something like that... it's not a trivial purchase

[@robertsharp6072]

@@WithJupiterInMind I assume you are kid because if not then nearly everything you said was pure nonsense.

[@WithJupiterInMind]

@@robertsharp6072 except I have footage and screenshots to prove it, opposed to the fanboys who never have means to back up their claims LOL the "religion" of AMD LOL My footage on AMD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIGbd5ZvorOEnrM

[@theintrovert2581]

i bought amd r7 250 2gb card 5 to 6 years ago and im still using it and i played almost every game on it and im still playing fortnite and its still giving me over 100 fps on low to medium settings. And im so impressed by amd that im thinking of buying a rx6800xt this year.

[@TheNeel555]

would you recommend rx 6800 xt for $1800 USD or for the same price rtx 3080 ? Edit: got it at the end of the video. Thanks.

[@HeyDan1983]

From where I live 3080 its like 45% expensier than a 6800 xt. So if thats the case where you are, 3080 makes no sense...

[@TheNeel555]

@@HeyDan1983 where i live, both are at same price....but 3080 availability sucks...bunch of 6800 xt are available at the same price but nobody's buying it at this price. All are waiting for 3080 stock.

[@HeyDan1983]

@@TheNeel555 yeah the thing is that nvidias marketing its so effective that makes thing everyone that DLSS and Raytraicing are things you cant miss. But lets be honest, they dont.

[@TheNeel555]

@@HeyDan1983 yeah for gaming it doesn't make that much difference..but if you are content creator or streamer that's when you'd have to make a hard choice. Otherwise for only gaming I'd say 6800 xt is awesome...RT and DLSS are good but meh...

[@gabem.5691]

VergilTheDevil666 they are extremely close in regular gaming, but I like the Amd software much more so that's why I went with a 5700xt over a 2060 non super. Personally I have never noticed the difference between Nvenc and amds encoding for streaming. If you want a gpu now the 6800xt is a great buy. Plus with amds fine wine 🍷 drivers your see it improve quite a bit over the years, I saw a article that the 6800xt has already gained 18% performance thanks to driver updates

[@J0ttaD]

My experience from switching to AMD: I been always using nvidia and now just switched to AMD. Bought a 6800XT. Best price performance but i see somewhat disturbing issues from AMD. Firsly, as Im writing this, somehow some letters disappear and reappear, like bruh wtf??? Secondly, The idle power draw is avg 45watts that kinda sucks specially when Im used to something more optimized and lastly, AMD is lacking in features compared to nvidia and barely has third-party software. Some of the features I used on nvidia are: foreground fps limiter, multi-monitor powersave and game filters that improve visuals... Conclusion, not perfectly satisfied, does fine in gaming though.

[@tni333]

I’ve had 3 AMD cards. Every single one of them had some issues. Nothing superbad, but annoying. Last year I went Nvidia and that card just runs without any issue whatsoever. That’s not to say that all AMD cards are trash, I probably just got super unlucky, but what gives? I’ll stick with Nvidia for the foreseeable future. Also, DLSS is just a great piece of tech on top.

[@effeee]

I've also had 3 AMD cards, including the one i have ATM. A 7870, 580 and now a 6900 - - 0 issues. my advice, dont be tempted to be a fanboy of this and that. buy whatever is best for your bucks, the competition exist for us to benefit from :)

[@solocamo3654]

Describe these "issues"?

[@solocamo3654]

@Sérgio Sérgio That's called a garbage power supply and people that don't know what they are doing.

[@realtek2514]

>4K gaming a few years from now the 10GB might be an issue This aged poorly. 10 starts to barely work for 1440p 💀

[@catalystguitarguy]

My last GPU upgrade was several years ago and I was between the $1500 2080Ti or a Radeon VII for $700. I wound up buying 2 Radeon VIIs, and then sold one of them off at the peak of the mining insanity for about $3000, almost 2 years later. There was literally 1 game that could use crossfire, I’ve loved the overall performance and have many had any issues I heard complaints about. I’m still using it today and am just waiting for a good opportunity to pick up a 6950xt or maybe wait out the 7000 series at this point. I don’t use cuda, haven’t been particularly interested in ray tracing. I still have a hackintosh drive I pop into sometimes which requires a Radeon GPU. I had a bad streak of Nvidia cards from 2012-2017 and just gave up buying them personally, it was like 10 GPUs between the 50 and 70 class that died on me in that time. though my friends have loved theirs and haven’t had any issues. I’m likely the statistical anomaly. I have half a dozen RX 580s I’ve been loaning out to friends the last few years, and have a Vega 64 in my other PC. I still have 4 old HD5770 Mac edition cards that “can” still work in my old Mac Pros as well, though I use RX580s for them as well since I patched the Mac to work with them. I found your video to be very well structured, and addressed several of the key issues that flame all over Reddit or random discords. It just comes down to what works right? Does it do what you want it to? And are you willing to pay the asking price for the feature you could use and might want but don’t necessarily need? I enjoyed the video.

[@ymk516]

Love your content ! You're right in the middle , using reason ! to make decisions!

[@gianlucapx]

If someone is into 3D modeling and rendering the best choice is NVIDIA: here AMD sucks. Tools like Max, Maya, Modo, Houdini, Corona, VRay, Redshift, Renderman don't support the AMD cards. Blender was the only program actively supporting AMD, but since build 3.0 there isn't Open CL support and only the high end AMD gpus can be used to accelerate the workflow (with the HIP API). Right now the RTX gpus are the best choice in this field: the programs and the rendering engines take advantage also of the tensor cores. Not just that: with the NVLink bridge you can stack the gpu memory, so with two 12GB gpus the program can use 24GB of Vram.

[@kek1975]

Exactly the information that I needed. Thanks

[@rushi7312]

What's the game at 9:19 ? That's maybe very well known, but I don't know many games actually. It looks great tho, I'd be happy to be able to play it.

[@strider5119]

I've built with both on multiple occasions. To put it simply, Intel/Nvidia has better gaming performance BUT for a fairly unreasonable price. AMD/Radeon has a touch less, but is priced very well. Regardless, both serve a purpose, both are good, and the constant competition drives prices down for the rest of us. So regardless of the "team" you're on, the competition is why yours is affordable.

[@dicknr1]

You pull that outta your asshole. Cause with the new smart access memory and infinity cache the Nvidea/intel combo cant hold out. Dream on tho.

[@Artvelgui904]

In all honesty, without being an Nvidia or AMD fan boy, I was able to purchase both and AMD Nitro + RX 6800xt and a RTX 3080 ASUS ROG Strix both at MSRP. Playing at 1080p (I know overkill, but I love high fps lol) with a R7 5800X I had a pretty good taste of what each cards brings to the table. Bare in mind I tested each card for about 6 months each and formed a conclusion. Taking into consideration price, performance, features, sofware and overall game optimization for each brand. I tried Ray tracing, dlss and fidelity, an so on. In my opinion the AMD card wins in terms of overall price/performance ratio, cheaper with the same performance or in some cases even better. Software wise, I hated the AMD one, It always kept crashing and I didnt quite like it compared to what nvidia offers, which I dont consider extremely superior bust just better and easier to use and adjust, with better features and no crashes. In terms of features like DLSS, ray tracing, NVIDIA offers its second gen tec, and clearly shows, as its vastly superior to AMD in those aspects. I would compare AMD ray tracing peformance to equal or slightly worst than a RTX 2080. Optimization for games is really a 50/50, some better for NVIDIA some better for AMD, however team green has probably the most and renowned tittles. I dont know if its only me but it seemed like the RX struggled in DX11/OLDER tittles. Overall, both are awesome cards, and I think we all agree that we will go for the availablity because of the situation. But I have to go with NVIDIA, features like DLSS and software won me over.