I Tested The Boujiest Cargo Bike You Can Buy

The 'Ca Go' Bike is for families deciding between a second car and a cargo bike, and thus it has all the features of an automobile. This includes high and low beams, 5 point harnesses, folding seat bottoms, adjustable headrests, an automatic transmission, pedestrian safety features, a crash tested passenger compartment, and powerful hydraulic disc brakes. The question is: who is in the market for something so overkill?
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[@ogel3747]

Hey Seth, I live in a City in northern Germany where I see a lot of these kinds of bikes (in that price range). Riese & Müller Load4, Urban Arrow, CaGo etc. Most of these bikes in Germany (and many other parts of europe) aren’t outright bought but leased through the employer, giving you a small reduction on your wage but in the end the bike costs 30% less and you get a lot of tax incentives as well, because it is kind of like a company car but without the associated costs.

[@hansschnier4955]

In Kiel and Hamburg in Germany I see a LOT of these sort of bikes, mostly for child transportation but the infrastructure is way ahead compared to USA. Curious when I see one of those tanks here.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@hansschnier4955 The infrastructure is just a result, not the problem. The problem is the zoning laws, infrastructure design is based on that and not a stand alone part.

[@zimmejoc]

I have a friend who married a German and now lives over there. This is absolutely for her. Not that she can afford it, but she does everything by bike.

[@alexr4246]

wow that's the future!

[@MrQuestful]

I agree, the future is now. I work for a specialty cargo Ebike shop in Boston, R&M & Urban Arrows are what we sell the most. I look forward to seeing this stateside.

[@silverfin198]

We need to see this traverse berm peak

[@DownandOutNYC]

With the pea gravel

[@Croissant-yum13]

We need this

[@Jesuschristonabike]

Yes

[@TrainSpottinAndBiking]

Will totally not end up destroyed

[@DeathracerXD]

Definitely

[@Cody-th6gw]

Very important to note that he exceeded the maximum payload of the bike by 450 pounds for that brake test. It's a testament to the bike that it functioned, let alone didn't snap under the 3x extra weight.

[@nonegone7170]

The higher end cargo bikes are usually so overbuilt, at least frame wise, that i'd be surprised if it snapped with 450 kilograms in it.

[@blakebrady9002]

I’m surprised he stopped at all, motorcycles of that weight usually have 2 double piston disc brakes on larger discs in the front with a smaller disc brake in the rear, they also have a wider contact patch

[@mountainbikemike]

@@nonegone7170 I've riden my Omnium many times for extended rides around bumpy festival grounds and out on the roads with 350kg AUW. The bike is 20kg and has a 100kg weight rating for the rack. I've had the same load many times on my Bullitt too, overbuilt for sure.

[@davephillips9389]

Not really, use my GSD R-14 to haul my 30 (about 300# and I weight about 210), gallon sewage tote for my RV up and down hills. I would not want to try the speeds he did, but that was one test not usage. Have only had to have new pads on the calipers. I have no hitch weight to worry about, I admit that does help.

[@blakebrady9002]

@@davephillips9389 the difference between your example and this is towed weight vs “bed” weight, in the former you distribute that weight mostly on the trailer rather than on the frame of the bike. You can see this difference in pickup trucks, look at what you can tow (what the drive train can handle) vs the weight you can put in the bed (what the suspension, frame, and drivetrain can handle)

[@spieo]

I moved to Berlin Germany from the US about 10 months ago and I see these things everyday full of kids absolutely stoked to be alive. I also often see BAMF parents ripping through the rain suited up in a parka and the kids chilling in the dry cargobay. It makes me so happy to see this kind of transportation being used instead of cars, especially in dense cities like Berlin. Thanks for showing this kind of bike on your channel

[@SephYouTube]

"Who really wants to pay for that stuff when it's for other peoples safety?" is such a big car/SUV driver mindset. Your points earlier about how it feels like a semi on the green way only illustrate how important these safety considerations are. I am very happy they have spent the money on it and I'm sure future models, bicycle design and public safety will benefit from this.

[@JeansWithPockets541]

Yeah that was legit terrifying

[@MentalEdge]

I did a double-take when Seth said that, going "thinking that way is really just the norm in the states, huh" like what do you mean "no-one wants to go out of their way to keep people other than themselves safe"? How about literally everyone who is not a sociopath? I'm happy there's an ocean between me and society where that is the prevailing way to look at things.

[@julianmcgregor7949]

I was hoping maybe he was joking a little.

[@Awooogaaaa]

@@MentalEdge Can confirm, most folks in the States would rather buy a vehicle that keeps *them* safe even if it's at the detriment of others. I know people who have bought SUV's or trucks because they think they're "safer"

[@fabe61]

No surprise this is a European product for European consumers

[@overmonk]

Now ride it back up the driveway. Do it!

[@marcosilvaspereira]

I was honestly curious about it, too. How would the Bosch motor handle that at the highest assistance level?

[@Roaming50]

My guess is it would break the belt drive.

[@Megabear90]

@@Roaming50 those are rated far, far above what any human and e bike motor could produce. The only time they will actually tear is if there is damage from excessive wear (usually they last 10.000- 20.000 km). Remember, the same tech (if a bit beefier) is used on belt driven motorcycles

[@5gvaccinator343]

@@Megabear90 I've managed to break the belt in first 400km. I think a small rock got stuck between the teeth of a front chainring and the belt. After a turn of pedals it self ejected. but the damage was already done. The belt start separating into small cords. I had managed to get home. But replacement belt was not easy to find.

[@christopherwebb3517]

No problem. The bottom of the cargo section is all liquid metal. At the push of a button, it'll turn into a T1000 Terminator that will petal the bike up the hill for you.

[@simonkong9827]

From NZ, have been riding a front box cargo bike for four years. Didn't own a car for three years. Regulary carried the 2x pre-teen kids on 70km round trips and adult friends around the city. I have put about 8000km on the bike so far. Love it and use it everyday.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

That's the spirit!

[@shlapdeshre]

That would still be be about 1,4 USD per km if you bought the one in the video. That's about what I'd be paying for a taxi where I live. Don't get me wrong, I love cargo bikes, but the problem with products like this is that it's never going to pay off.

[@1234fishnet]

Do you repair the bike yourself? Are you depending on the manufacturer because of specialized parts?

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@shlapdeshre 1. you 'calculate' as if 8k is the end of the line... belt drives are known to go 35k without replacement lol. 2. You can get an Urban Arrow with belt drive for about 6k, you don't have the Automatiq(tm) shifting though. 3. You also 'calculate' as if money is the only factor, or only direct factor. You also safe money by having a beter health and higher standard of living. There are many benefits to riding a bike compared to riding inside a tin can on wheels.

[@punkdigerati]

@shlapdeshre the first km was the price of the bike/km, they're still using it, it's not a valuable comparison at any point except end of life

[@miroslawmoczyrog]

There is a big market for these cargo bikes here in Europe, where they are used instead of a second car. Even where I live in Warsaw/Poland, I see several people riding these with their kids to preschool every morning. And our local councils are not as bicycle friendly as in Denmark, Germany, The Nederlands, etc.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

Law of economy, the more expensive it is to do things with a car in comparison the more people will use a bike regardless of environment. I hope there isn't a steep increase in traffic accidents, these bikes aren't very maneuverable and when you mix them with cars I wouldn't want to ride there with my kid ( I'm spoiled, being Dutch and all ).

[@williamcounter5533]

1:52 ​@@MarvinWestmaas

[@Cicatrizs]

in big urbanised areas you can also use it instead of your "first car", I live in berlin, haven't owned a car in about a decade, I do groceries with my neighbours cargo bike every 2 weeks and regular groceries just on my regular bike.

[@aureliendaurat3340]

Even in France nowadays!

[@TheMotlias]

yeah and over here we don't consider pedestrian safty a waste of money like he seems to

[@malloott]

40-50k kilometer on urban arrows in the past 8 years here. It's the best thing I ever bought, and I won't get rid of it just because the kids are grown out of it. Groceries, trips to the beach/park/bbq are all now no longer depended on the car and it's a massive win for time and happiness. My 153cm Spanish wife also drives it like a pro.

[@marcosilvaspereira]

This is the way!

[@StanleyKubick1]

cargo bikes are the best for beach outings

[@L0ckenmaster]

had a urban arrow for testing for a month. In this time there was a big snowfall, cars where getting stuck for days. The urban arrow worked this extrem days like a champ, it was amazing!

[@marcelthebiker]

In the Netherlands these kind of bikes have almost taken over our bike lanes. Sometimes to the point that it's annoing. They are great fun though. If the infrastructure is there, they absolutely work.

[@splashpit]

Why annoying ? They are the same width as a normal bike

[@GreenJimll]

Proof once again that the Dutch are living in the future! 🙂

[@uniworkhorse]

Having a name that forces you to become Australian for 2 seconds every time you say it is diabolical

[@matt.3.14]

I was thinking Bahstan, but yes. The bike is a wicked pissah though.

[@JC-pt2tw]

Haha

[@Mandingobull]

Cago in Spanish 😂😂😂

[@griffhawkins8909]

​@@matt.3.14 "Why do you have to stop at gas stations? Because it makes the Ca go"

[@TheDustyShredder]

It's so diabolical, I love it, I want it.

[@christopherwilson9861]

I would love to see a cargo bikepacking trip!

[@TheOnlyKontrol]

Yeah with 2 people taking turns. 1 pedals 1 sits and records and takes a break and switch ever so often.

[@classiccarson9760]

Like the one to key west from a while ago

[@chungyeungvideo]

there are smaller version in ca go and still do the trick on cargo!

[@Eindkaas]

I see opportunity for some bike packing product reviews!

[@Nateschatz97]

Make it happen!

[@deabreu.tattoo]

I'm just gonna drop this here: "cago" means "I shit" in portuguese (and spanish too, I think)

[@SoulWash]

Also Italian

[@josecarvajal6654]

Yup Spanish too, came here to say that lol

[@renelopez8227]

Si.

[@davephillips9389]

HeHe, probably a lot of the romantic languages. What do the Romanian's and Portuguese use?

[@RaulMolinaLopez]

Y la bicicleta? CaGo😅😅

[@emeQve]

this is certainly the most brutal gravel ride I've ever seen

[@brianmosher4053]

It was hilarious how he said 600 lbs. Of GRANITE, as if 600 lbs of feathers would have been lighter lmao

[@Blox117]

it would be, because the feathers interact with the air

[@Blox117]

also the feathers may be heavier, since they have voids filled with air.

[@brianmosher4053]

@Blox117 lmao god I hope this was a joke.

[@martinmorsch7507]

I live in a German bike centered city. You can bet your a** that this bike is successful here. Everyone basically uses the "shitty" version of this already, plus in germany you can get a bike from your employer, and the state pays some money into it. Im looking to finance a 13k€ Bianchi roadbike through this, and will pay 170€a month, save 3000€ of the total cost and get the bike to my name no problem. Imagine a young family. Safety is probably one of the only issues tilting them towards getting a secondary car. And now its not only much cheaper, can use all sorts of car limited roads, making it faster in traffic, it is also safe, compfy and somewhat proffessional looking. In Europe, this isnt a bike for the future, its a bike for the present, yall need to start catching up.

[@morfeyrun]

come again, state helps finance 13k superbikes, too? what's the rationale for doing so, I wonder?

[@martinmorsch7507]

@@morfeyrun Well, if I want to commute in the 10k E bike or the 10k Roadbike, the state really doesnt care. Its more expensive and difficult to surveil the peoples usage of the bike, than potential money the state could save. Also, this type of loan does not specify exactly how much you need to use your bike. Since we have laws that allow people to get a 50-100k car for free from their employers (tax free and with financial aid from the state) this programme is only fair and a step towards a greener future. Again, 99% of people finace an E bike they use to actually commute.

[@drewfamilyadventures]

As someone that lived in Germany for 3 years and seen the amazing bike paths and greenways, it comes down to the States infrastructure. We don't have the bike safe roads and greenways like in Europe for bike travel. In the states bikes are seen as a recreational vehicle more than a transport vehicle.

[@martinmorsch7507]

@@drewfamilyadventures Exactly, but this isnt a futuristic bike, in many parts of the world its a daily driver. :)

[@L0ckenmaster]

@@morfeyrun cars by the company for employees (which they use for work and private) or company-owners are subsidised in many ways for decades. Bikes are only catching up in this regard.

[@itsmilan4069]

"it's so sketchy" also seth "I think it can fit more" 😂 classic bike hacks energy there

[@abcpea]

I heard "CaGo" and thought "oh right, he's from Rhode Island"

[@gregmacd2829]

Long Island…

[@coby_not_kobe]

@@gregmacd2829 same thing

[@Gniggaaa]

That’s what’s it’s called

[@alexv968]

I'm Spanish and I hope they use another name for it if it's sold here

[@abcpea]

@@gregmacd2829 Oh, right

[@Cowboydjrobot]

Ebikes are awesome and ecargo bikes are incredible. It can be hard for people who only view their bikes as toys to understand why e-bikes are so popular. If you only view your bicycle as a fitness device that can only be used one very specific way, then it hard to imagine people using bikes for transportation. You don’t buy an ebike to replace your road bike or mountain bike. You buy an ebike to replace your car

[@nik-roshansirak3398]

Hi guys! Guy here from europe. These things are actaully becoming a thing over here, you see them more and more, especially used by smaller businesses, like craftsmen in cities use them to navigate city traffic and still carry their work tools, parcel and food deliverers use them, the other day I saw one with a logo of a local laboratory, that carried some medical gear from a hospital to said laboratory, it just makes sense for all these like under 10km rides all these businesses used to take smaller transporters for. Sure, you see parents transporting their kids as well, but transporting your kids is actually not that much of a thing over here, because it seems to be a lot safer over here, most children still just use public transport or simply cycle on their own, although you also see more and more people... living the "american dream" and drop of their kids at school...^^

[@hivewasp]

Living in southern Germany, you see a lot of cargo bikes - all shapes and sizes. For my family, we don't have a car anymore, we just have 2 ebikes, one child seat and a set of saddlebags - we don't really need much more. The main bonus here is that normal sized ebikes can still fit in a train / ubahn and extend your range immensely - with those larger cargo ones it's not so easy; another issue for my family with the larger cargo bikes: no where to store it, forget the basement - I'm not gonna carry an oversized bicycle that's almost as heavy as I am through narrow stairs every morning and evening and leaving it in the driveway I'm pretty sure it's gonna disappear at some point. But yes, in a future with less cars, better regulations, and actually harsher sentences for bike thieves... those may become the new norm.

[@gardencity3558]

"But yes, in a future with less cars, better regulations, and actually harsher sentences for bike thieves... those may become the new norm." This sounds dystopian. No thanks.

[@anubizz3]

I have a solution for you its called maxi scooter.

[@JellyLancelot]

@@gardencity3558 you must be American. Don’t understand how any normal person wouldn’t want that, everything they listed is objectively positive.

[@gardencity3558]

@@JellyLancelot Not American. You must be a fool. How else could anyone support being forced to live like a peasant in a dystopian nightmare where the state controls your movements? Rhetorical question.

[@gardencity3558]

@@JellyLancelot Not american. You must be obtuse and or gullible to think state intursion into citizens lives by restricting their movment is a good on any level. Back into your shell.

[@AntoanIordanov]

Here in the Netherlands this type of bike is really common and there are many bike producers that have a variant of this model. Especially in big cities like Amsterdam and Rotterdam there are a lot of families that own one of those, next to a regular vehicle, because in the city centers the parking space availability is low and the prices to park your vehicle are really high. The prices of this types of bikes vary from €4000 to about €9000 but if you get one without the electrical assist there are pretty decent brands that offer them from around €1200.

[@faustinpippin9208]

You can buy a leaf for 5k, wtf are you People smoking there....

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@faustinpippin9208 We don't want to be like fat Americans? Also, the reason we DO is because we CAN. Our schools are within cycling distance of where people live. Our shops are within cycling distance of where people live. Go watch NotJustBikes, try to think for a moment, then come back to this comment.

[@george99247]

@@faustinpippin9208 "because in the city centers the parking space availability is low and the prices to park your vehicle are really high" do you understand what you read?

[@Exgrmbl]

@@george99247 That's not his point. His comparison serves to illustrate the same aspect that people compare when they show motorcycle vs. road bike prices.

[@FBFJDKOEUEURJFJDJ]

@@faustinpippin9208 You completely misunderstood the point he was making. In the Netherlands owning a car in a big city can be incredibly inconvenient when compared to owning one of these cargo e-bikes.

[@BenSch100]

Honestly I find the value proposition for a 10k cargo bike with so much engineering and safety features way more appealing than the usual (plus) 10k e-MTB! Going downhill 35% grade with a totally overloaded cargo bike is just mental!! Only 2 pistons Maguras at the front!! "I know how to bail" but just wearing a halfshell no pads and going down like 30mph on it with brakes fading!! How to bail at that speed?!? Crazy Stunt!! 😅

[@TheJohnreeves]

I know, I like how he said he knows how to bail, but then got it up to a speed where no bailing is going to happen.

[@sirzebra]

@@TheJohnreeves Bailing on his head is still bailing i guess eheh.

[@mountainbikemike]

I've ridden with the same magura brakes on my omnium and bullitt with 4 adults on the bike, total 350kg AUW, so very similar, plus on dirt and down similar hills. Theres zero issues with those brakes, the 'stunt' in this video is all for show. Its a great setup and can handle the hill.

[@michaelmartin9022]

Stay on the bike, the box is a crumple zone!

[@benja_mint]

i thought the same :D i guess at some point he had got a feel for how hard it was and just decided he could control it and decided to go "full send mode" 😄

[@slate613]

New idea! Strip the cargo box, drop in the liner and fill it with water. Cargo e-bike HOT TUB! 😂

[@slate613]

Legends say that Seth is STILL trying to get the bike back up to the house.

[@thatdudeinmaroon]

God I love when I randomly find a channel that makes interesting videos that have a lot of work put into them and it's on a topic I never really read up on. Subbed

[@2failepic]

I have rented a similar Cargo Bike before in a big German City. They are very popular with university students at those rentals. If you don't own a car but want to buy something heavy like from Ikea or the Hardware Store, you can save money by renting a cargo bike instead of renting a car. And taking your friends inside the box is very fun while cruising around in pedestrian zone.

[@anubizz3]

You can carry bed , mattress and big Wardrobes in cargo bike? isnt it cheaper just to pay for delivery?

[@JAG-ALL-EGO]

I own an nonelectric Yuba Supercargo bike which I paid $2,500 in near new condition. Since my children are adults, it was never my intention to haul kids. In fact, I removed the kid seats on day one of my ownership. I do use this bike to haul my three lap dogs around South Lake Tahoe and they love going for rides. I do use it to grocery shop, or haul beach chairs, umbrella and picnic food from my home on the state streets (in South Lake Tahoe) to Camp Richardson. I love this bike more than my hardtail and full suspension mountain bikes. The best part is when I go to the beach, there is about a mile of cars trying to get to the beach as I whisk by directly to the beach on the bike path. I highly recommend having this type of front cargo bike. They are squirrelly to ride and a lot of fun.

[@RosefMudson1414]

Price of a damn used car

[@Brandon-bl7my]

why not get a regular bike and trailer for the dogs?

[@JAG-ALL-EGO]

I agree that these bikes are expensive. What I paid compared to new electric versions was a bargain.

[@capt3857]

living in Europe I see bikes like this all the time. Every time I go to Munich I see plenty of cargo bikes like this. If I lived in the city and not the country side I would have this as the second car for the family. Right now where I live it’s more practical to have a ebike each for my wife and I along with a kid trailer we can use in either bike. If I didn’t have to carry the bikes on the car regularly a cargo bike like this would be more efficient.

[@Mcnew77]

Yep. Euro based and actually used one of these for my work instead of a car. They are super common and was surprised to hear his take and surprise. Its just another cargo bike.

[@Ed-io1nc]

Ngl, a berm peak camping / survival channel would be amazing, with gear review, etc etc

[@staticv3570]

Absolute master-class in product review! Well-paced, well-rounded, and super entertaining. Chapeau!

[@Boopop1024]

Yes! I love it when sports cycling channels cover utility bikes. Good job Seth!

[@AMPProf]

Sports is sports That guy Does crazy

[@mountainbikemike]

Except for the comments at the end totally dismissing them, and saying maybe its for the future. Like what??? Cargo bikes have been around for more than 200 years.

[@chrisnielsen5287]

It probably isn’t practical for the us/Canada but for Europe in countries where everyone rides, it’s an amazing piece of machinery

[@AMPProf]

GOOD LORD. Yaa Go driving down the frozen mountain side in moose country just to run into a Tim Hortens

[@AMPProf]

He was feeling Eco freindly today..

[@gardencity3558]

Yes not even remotely practical in Canada.

[@jgolden3]

We live in Kelowna, BC and use our Urban Arrow as our second car 11+ months per year. The only reason we actually have a second car is to haul my MTB to the more distant trailheads. We do get a ton of funny looks from people riding around, either with the two boys or sometimes my wife in the front bucket, but the looks are mostly mirroring our smiles because it’s such a fun way to get around. I’m always amazed that my 110lb cargo bike has a carrying capacity of 550lbs (half in the bucket, half in the cockpit and on the rear rack) whilst my 4,500lb minivan has a payload of merely double the cargo bike at 1,100lbs. The bucket bike style confers incredible mechanical advantage over the load to the rider and gives a smaller person the ability to carry and manage the heavy load. I highly recommend checking one out if you have the space to store it and want to try a slightly different approach to urban mobility.

[@Rathbone_fan_account]

I just wanted to say thank you for the metric conversion 🙏

[@MarMar-zj8tf]

Looks darn impressive, but that 10 grand price tag is a hard pill to swallow. I don't know much about bike prices, but something closer to $6,000 would feel more like something I could proudly pay and not feel like I need to spend the rest of my life justifying the purchase to friends and family.

[@marcosilvaspereira]

It depends on how you see it: if it truly is a car replacement, then compare it with the cost of owning a car. But, yes, there are less expensive options. In the US, You can get an Urban Arrow for 7k, for example, and it is already an amazing bike.

[@briandeyounghomes]

No gas....

[@SmartLittleFishy]

"It's [the Ca Go bike] is really hard to move around if you're not riding it." So, are cars if you're not driving them. I don't think I could lift my car into the back of a pickup truck on my own even if it did fit. 🤣

[@900DonkeyPunches]

But steel is heavier than feathers

[@ZesPak]

@@900DonkeyPunches 1kg of steel is just as heavy as 1kg of feathers.

[@XiaolinDraconis]

@@ZesPak Listen buddy, I hit someone with a bag of steel once, I was immediately DQ'd from the pillow fight.

[@sheep4483]

@@ZesPak Actually, 1kg of steel with an average density of 7.85 g/cm^3 will weigh roughly 999.84 grams at sea level, while 1kg of feathers with an assumed density of 0.8 g/cm^3 will weigh roughly 998.5 grams at sea level, due the the buoyant force applied by the atmosphere; their masses are the same, but the feathers are lighter.

[@BryceLovesTech]

We have a disabled child that’s nine years old and this would be an amazing bike. There’s definitely a used case for this for us. We have a Burley trailer, but she is outgrown it so this would be a great idea. by the way, I love that you transported it in a electric lightning pick up truck.

[@clawsoon]

Not sure if you're looking for replacement trailer, but I've been hauling my 17-year-old special needs daughter around in a Wike trailer. We've got the trailer that can go up to 125lbs, but they've got another one that can go up to 150lbs.

[@BryceLovesTech]

@@clawsoon that’s awesome. You mentioned that. I was just on their website last week looking at it. Would love to get your input on how that trailer performs.

[@clawsoon]

@@BryceLovesTech I've got no complaints. The trailer is well built and my daughter enjoys riding it. It's quick and easy to fold and unfold it, too.

[@la-go-xy]

Depending on the abilities of your passenger the front box offers better outlook. There are other combinations if your child wants to participate in pedaling, like rear-steered tandems, 3wheeled tandems with backrest etc.......

[@igotmystimmy9241]

Seth, you look incredibly happy riding that bike. It's crazy how far you've come from hucking road ditches on the mission pro to cruising paths with your kids. Glad to have seen it all.

[@RobRidesCargoBikes]

Stoked to see more cargo bike content on this channel! It looks like you're enjoying finding out more about them and I hope to see more cargo bike stress testing in future videos 😅😅

[@cypok]

I rode exactly this bike with my daughter during the Munich EBike Days. It was really a great ride, very smooth and very good handling on uphills and downhills (up and down to Olympiaberg).

[@w1ll3m.]

It seems very similar to the top tier (€4000-6000) electric cargo bikes (bakfietsen) that you see everywhere here in the Netherlands. Urban Arrow, Cube Cargo Hybrid, Gazelle Makki Load, etc

[@shinook6667]

Yup. CA-GO just starts off fully loaded with premium options so the base price is higher than the others. But is competitive once similarly specifications.

[@ptamog]

Do these make sense compared with the two wheels on the front ones? They look too difficult to maneuver when loaded and too long for urban parking

[@Lolwutfordawin]

​@@ptamogthey are actually incredibly stable, feel much better to ride than the trikes, with the exception of tilting trikes. Trikes are better at extremely low speeds (sub-walking pace), but much worse at curves.

[@shinook6667]

@@Lolwutfordawin I agree. I was very impressed with the CA-GO. It took only a couple minutes to get used to how it handled. And my daughter absolutely loved riding it in. The Max & Mäleon three wheel is more capable with this leaning tech and larger capacity… but for easy of use the CA GO is really tough to beat.

[@frankoae86]

I am a huge fan of the front loader cargo bike. I have built 2 from scratch and the second one is a living experiment which changes every winter after a summer of riding. As a European living outside Seattle, I agree that the US isn’t ready to adopt this style of bike yet. I live in a rural hippy town and the locals enjoy the idea, but everyone is still to set on driving and the infrastructure isn’t there yet. The future is bright though.

[@pesomasagravedad]

I bought a bullitt bike for the shop run and nursery trip. Best thing I've bought. Ever.

[@hananas2]

Bullitt is awesome, love mine!

[@splashpit]

Iv owned one for two decades now bought a second one six years ago.

[@traphimawari7760]

In the Philippines we have this side car bike that looks like our tricycles but on bike scale, its called "pot pot" or "put put", its cheaper, its been around for more than a decade, it can go anywhere even in deep floods, and it can carry everything, not to mention the fact that its produced en masse means there's plenty of parts available and they are all cheap and you can customize it to your liking, the people who made the ca go should take notes, rather than re invent the wheel and waste a lot of money, if they wanted a cargo and passenger bike they need not to look further from the South East Asia where these safe and fun beasts roam on the streets providing transportation service in more tighter areas for like a quarter. I own one myself and it is a proper bike for use within my subdivision and I use it often to ride to the gym with all my necessities and even pick up groceries and my brothers from school with it, I used to drive a car but I found more leisure with the humble put put.

[@ianmcgregor8152]

I couldn't agree with you more in saying that these bikes are made for a future that doesn't exist yet (at least in most US cities). However, when my family found out we were having our second child we were faced with a choice to either buy a 2nd car that is rarely used and costs thousands to maintain and operate every year or spend some extra money up front and buy an urban arrow that costs a few hundred dollars to keep around. So my family have been happily riding our front-loading cargo bike around snowy Concord, NH all year long. The infrastructure is not where it needs to be, these giant cargo bikes shouldn't be ridden on narrow shared used or multi-use paths but riding on the roads in traffic isn't safe either. Thats why advocacy and education are the biggest ways to influence the change you want to see. Thank you for showing your audiance what kind of transpiration alternatives are out there and doing your part to advocate for a safer bike infrastructure.

[@nonegone7170]

The bicycle paths here in Amsterdam are narrower than those greenways in the video, and they're flooded with these kinds of cargo bikes.

[@ianmcgregor8152]

@@nonegone7170 I assume the difference is cultural. Most bike or multi use paths in the US are used only for recreation (walking your dog, jogging, or getting outside with children). There is no expectation that someone in any type of bike will be behind you trying to pass. Outside of major cities bikes are not seen as a functional mode of transit and pathways that do not allow cars rarely connect two places together. The US is better than in transit planning but still has a long way to go. I hope to make it over to Amsterdam and the Netherlands one day to see bike culture firsthand.

[@LockieScott]

This style of cargo bike has been an absolute life-changing investment for me and my family, like it's so much more convenient to take the kids to daycare and kindergarten, do the shopping, head to the hardware store and even do runs to the tip or garden waste. It's like having a shopping trolley with you the whole time that you can park anywhere and never have to walk 😂 it's not a product for the future, it's about pushing to make your town or city the right kind of environment where this type of transport is the safest and most convenient. I actually have two of them, one acoustic and one electric Cube Cargo Hybrid 1000, which rules my name world!

[@StanleyKubick1]

acoustic bike is wild. actually a great brand name for sturdy, basic bikes

[@tims_builds]

I live in Portland and we have a ton of this type of bike (I have one too) It really is a car replacement and everyone I know that has one loves it. It really is about shifting the cultural norm away from automobiles

[@jessem9880]

Yeahh not really Ive never seen one, theyre not really in the united states that much.

[@TheJohnreeves]

Same, I'm in Portland. @jessem9880 is full of it, they're everywhere. I've never seen this specific one, but the main shop (I know of) that sells them also sells the >$10k Riese & Muller front cargo bikes, and they have full suspension! The suspension is a big deal, in my opinion. I've seen the R&M around town, but mostly I see Urban Arrows and Bullitts (which is what I got). I love it. Before the Bullitt I had a Gazelle front load cargo bike, but it was built for - and had the stopping power for - pancake flat terrain. Roller brakes that took as long to stop as it takes to get up to speed. Dangerous with much weight (like my kid) or a significant hill.

[@landonthings]

I see these are Portland too! Super cool!

[@0hn0haha]

I've lived in the Portland/Vancouver metro area since 1996, these are insanely rare in Portland outside of a few blocks of downtown and then like 20 streets/blocks on the east side of the willamette, from about Alberta to Powell/hwy26. Downtown milwaukie has some bicyclists too, with the occasional cargo bike. Y'all need to get out of the superurban core, and visit the rest of the city. Bicycles are actually insanely rare everywhere else. NE portland has one school that tried to make it a thing, but it literally just isn't a thing normally, without outside influence.. Bicycles are cool, I love them, and the perfect vehicle for downtown cores, and small flatter walkable spaces, and I would love more of that, with bike/pedestrian only areas. Don't get me wrong, but despite being bike friendly, even Portland is not embracing, nor will ever likely embrace the bicycle (in our lifetimes) like just about any small flat european country, thought perhaps sometime this century it may occur.. Because 1 - we are not flat, and it many parts, we are actually insanely mountainous and 2 - Oregon State is large. It is larger in area that the whole UK - 255 sq km vs 243 sq km, almost 4 times the size of Switzerland, I believe, and nearly as big as Italy. 6x the Netherlands, about 2/3 the size of Germany. That's just one state. Motorized transport is vital just to visit family living outside of town for many people. Own a farm? Public transport is impossible/cost prohibitive. Live out in the boondocks? Same. As an aside, people working in the city aren't neurotic enough to want to live in one - and no joke, there is a correlation and even a causal link between neuroticism and living in a big city - neurotic types tend to move to cities, and people who live in cities tend to become much more neurotic even when their trait neuroticism is initially low. This may explain some of the superurban/suburban/rural splits in attitude that are currently really messing with American society. Automobiles, and specifically fossil fuel vehicles, are going to be the gold standard for a while, and even when electric range and charge time and infrastructure catches us (which will be very soon) the automobile will still be king. My commute, one-way, is 37.5 miles. I live in the East of Vancouver, so that I can be close to family and 25 minutes from state forest, with the convenience of a city nearby too, but without the traffic, hustle, bustle, noise, and have enough space for my chickens and projects. I've lived downtown, I've lived in suburbia, in the old suburbs and neighborhoods of the area, in new developments, rural areas of the area, etc. Broaden your horizons. Get out of town more often. Get to know the old locals, ask them how things have changed.

[@TheJohnreeves]

@@0hn0haha nah, all wrong. You have an outlier commute. Most cities are mostly flat, including Portland. And we're talking in the context of ebikes which make the small hills we do have moot. Nobody lives in these vast rural sprawls you describe. It's why Oregon votes for Democrats despite all the Bundy psychos living in the high desert. And I am an "old local". Longer than you apparently. Not that it matters what old locals think.

[@JoHes0522]

Rippin around just north of SLC on a R&M Load60 the past 2 years! It was my primary means of transportation Oct '22 - Nov '23. Handles 12+ inches of snow just fine. I hope that's your bike and not just a loaner, they're a good time!

[@hippotek1]

I have been riding a Riese and Müller Load 75 with a Bosch CX (Gen 2) for the last 5 years as my daily bike. First I used it for the kids as a shuttle to Kindergarten, now I use it for shopping and our dogs. Speaking form experience: Brakes are one of the MAJOR issues on ALL Cargo bikes. Back in 2019 my bike came equipped with Tektro Auriga, 180mm front, 203mm rear. I am finally upgrading to 4-piston calipers and 203 front and rear these days, after aprox. 7.000km of riding. My biggest issue have been cracked spokes on the brake side of the rear wheel though. The original wheel was cheaply build, 36 hole, Shimano Deore hub paired with a cheap 26" rim and straight gauge 2.0mm spokes. This wheel lasted a mere 250km. I then built a new rear wheel, using a Novatec D-442SB, 135mm hub (later models of the rm Load75 use 148mm boost through axle rear wheels) and 2.3 - 2.0mm spokes laced to a Mavic 719 rim. This wheel lasted 1.000km before I started snapping spokes yet again. Finally I built a custom wheel using a fully custom made carbon rim by lightbicycle, reinforced for up to 350kg of total bike weight, sporting 48-holes, laced to a 1990s White Industries Tandem hub relying on Sapim STRONG spokes. As aresult I have no more snapped spokes! 6.000km without a hitch. I am a rather heavy big guy (193cm, 135kg) and I carry quite some cargo (up to 75kg of dogs :-P ). IMHO the industry is in dire need of dedicated cargo rear wheels (preferably full carbon construction, 12 massive spokes) and a dedicated brake standard boasting thicker (>2.5mm) larger (>254mm) rear brakes and matching high load tires. Unlike with other bikes, Long John type cargo bikes generate most of the brake power on the rear wheel due to center of mass being shifted far backwards (unless of course some crazy guy loads up 250kg of gravel).

[@Mouthwashh]

Bro get on a diet. You’re going to unalive yourself with heart failure.

[@L0ckenmaster]

I don’t think that you get physics right for weightransfer. Also have you tryed hope disc-brakes? I life in an area where you can do easy 1000hm/100km in the city, so good braking is key. Braking with Hope discs is superior to most other discs. Galfer did also a very good floating Disc but I don’t know if they are still in production.

[@kamilkurzynowski3836]

I love how unfamiliar you are with European market :) Those bikes are all suburban moms in Europe ever wanted. School runs in my neighbourhood are very short, traffic is extremely congested. Those things are faster than cars around town. Don’t worry, it’s not to early, we love them and we’ll keep on buying. The market will be growing steadily.

[@AlienLivesMatter]

I wanted to see the gravel ridden back up the driveway

[@LongPeter]

We swapped two medium sized cars for a much better four wheel drive and a second hand cargo bike. If you live in suburban Australia and your job doesn’t require a vehicle, you can absolutely make do with one car. We have a Douze V2 with an 8 speed Alfine gearbox and no motor. My small kids absolutely love riding in it on weekends or going to child care. I use it to go to the shops and cash in the recycling. A motor would be nice if we lived in a more hilly area but you can certainly live without one. The V2 weighs 24kg and once you get going, it feels like nothing.

[@erictrelz3519]

Why, why, why? Why did you do this video? Why should I care? Example of content for content sake. Kind of like the cheap tool videos. Why?

[@webleytom]

"Uses four piston disc brakes" cuts to a shot of a 2 piston brake 😂😂😂

[@-IE_it_yourself]

makes sense, on a bike like that rear biased breaking is a good idea.

[@Youtubecensoredmyusername]

The other two pistons are on the other side of the rotor

[@briandeyounghomes]

Per side?

[@JonathanSmith2]

Urban Arrows, Riese and Muller are getting popular in metro areas in the US. This looks like an excellent option for families considering those when they bring it to the US.

[@JoachimMilan1]

For me, living in Copenhagen, thinking of this as the "second car" is hilarious. Many people dont have a car and if they do, then that is the secondary mode of transport (it is for myself). This bike is way overkill though!

[@colinmartin9797]

I'm honestly most impressed by the fact that it ONLY weighs twice as much as my city E bike. The price honestly makes sense too. It's a replacement for a second car. At a half to a quarter the price of a second car.

[@TheJohnreeves]

The price makes sense only in that it is very useful, but these things are way over priced at the moment. They have to come down. I just don't see how they can justify being more expensive than a very good motorcycle, for example. It's not like they're super advanced, cutting edge technology or anything. I think they're just expensive because they're rare. Hopefully more people use them and the price becomes more manageable. (I say this as a person who has and loves one of these awesome bikes)

[@sirzebra]

@@TheJohnreeves Tbh, this is the highest priced one i've ever seen, and the drive is exactly the same kind as you would find in premium belt driven motorcycles, so the comparision is not as unfavorable as you think. Real prices for basic cargo E-bikes are easily under 2000€ and even under 1000€ for second hand ones. DIY can get you to that level of quality / performance for 4k at most.

[@mountainbikemike]

@@TheJohnreeves Its that much money because of the enviolo (electric auto shift mind you), integrated GPS, belt drive, etc. There are plenty of cargo bikes that will do the same thing for 60% less $

[@Thezuule1]

The price makes even more sense when you realize bike manufacturers are trying to sell you a road bike for even more than this costs.

[@VavShin]

For a lot of people. it's not a replacement for a "second car". It's a replacement for a car.

[@wafflealex]

A cargo bikepacking trip would be great!

[@classiccarson9760]

To key west like before

[@andrewpeterson5882]

EDIT: videos like these are the reason this is still the best bike channel on youtube, I guarantee you most of the folks watching this will never buy this or a comparable bike, but watching you load it up with gravel, say "this is so sketchy", then fill it with even more and send it down the driveway is peak Seth xD This is crazy expensive but for a family that lives in city with good bike infrastructure and is committed to car-free or a reduced car use lifestyle, this bike seems really great. All the safety and comfort features are spot-on, the belt drive and internally geared auto-shift hub are awesome and this is the perfect use case for them, and the fact that they've set it up so well to suit multiple uses from grocery and actual cargo hauling to family transportation would make the sell a bit easier. That said it's obviously still crazy expensive and I wish the US gov't and US-based companies would start offering more incentives to help people manage the price tag.

[@nickbrooking2544]

Me: Hmm, I love Seth's work, do I really want to watch this? Seth: I'm going to put 600 lbs of granite in it and ride down my driveway Me: Hell yes!

[@CBR_squid06]

Overnight trip with cargo bike would be a cool video

[@JakobSagatowski]

Living in Munich/Germany and I have a bike like this (Urban arrow). Cargo bikes here are very popular and for my family our cargo bike has completely replaced the car.

[@AMPProf]

I'd be scared of Rolling into a car. From a stop, wHile the car is in park, at the park

[@AMPProf]

And gut lord if there running at me In the nude

[@anbudrew]

Yes, Seth. We'd like to see you camp it and hack a bike rack to it to bring to the trails.

[@stevet7784]

Very cool bike! Now in Canada all we need is safe and reliable cycling infrastructure ...

[@jonny-b4954]

I gotta say, that is a really nice, well thought-out bike. I love seeing well engineered things. Where you can tell a team poured over EVERY detail and what if for years. 14:44 Don't ever do that. You'll work harden the steel and make it brittle.

[@iamtheblank]

Right now, you can find the Cago FS200 for about $7500 in Germany at one my local stores. In Germany, electric bikes are limited to 25 km/h without a special driver's license.

[@NoInterleaving]

Cover & Carry Bag 99,00 € Tablet 89,00 €, Front Organizer 44,95 €, Bosch PowerTube 625 Wh Battery 690,00 €, Bike Garage 89,00 €, Magura IBS 390,00 € and u have 10.090,95 €

[@faustinpippin9208]

Jezus Christ you can buy a brand new dacia ev for 13k lol

[@Lolwutfordawin]

​@@faustinpippin9208 can't drive and park the Dacia right at the school / café / whatever in many places though. Add in insurance, higher energy use and it's still gonna be a lot more in the end.

[@NoInterleaving]

@@faustinpippin9208 yes but the running costs are extrem higher and cost, u only need to fix the breaks sometimes and the belt each 30 000 km of the bike

[@Huntracony]

​@@faustinpippin9208 Where? Definitely not in Germany, I'll tell you that much. I'd know, I bought one.

[@justanotherbob1621]

I'd so love to see you on a camping adventure on this bike!

[@moneym8k3r]

i think its a good idea to try and have a bike packing trip with that thing, i can see its appeal to those who like bike camping stuff if its really capable of doing so.

[@Jehty_]

With that much cargo space you wouldn't go camping. You would go glamping 😂

[@classiccarson9760]

To key west like before

[@cb2206]

Have had a Urban Arrow cargo bike which looks very similar (but less tech) for over 7 years now. For 5 years it was our second car replacement. Used a infant car seat adapter for our second kid, added a second bench to care up to 4 kids. It‘s amazing.

[@karlInSanDiego]

Didn't know Ergon owns Ca Go. Love their stuff and this bike looks like a great car replacement. You're looking at the equivalent of hatchbacks in the mid 70s. Gamechanger.

[@omnomnom1391]

I want one! In the next video I hope you’ll test if the electric motor and the gearbox are good enough to push back all that gravel, or if that bike can replace your pickup truck for a month. Unfortunately, these kind of bikes will never be popular in a typical USA city, the infra is just too car centric.

[@MarioGoatse]

That really depends on the city. As time goes on and the car brain worms die off and they start building better infrastructure, they’ll get more popular. You see quite a few in Portland already

[@lbustelo]

All that amount of research and they did not discover that the word “cago” is Spanish for “dropping a deuce”. There goes a good chunk of potential customers.

[@GingerHead.]

Its a bonus if anything

[@JMurph2015]

Why would people care that much? It's target market is clearly German/English/Dutch/French speakers? The fact that something just so happens to not translate well happens all the time. It's like saying "that Mandarin Chinese song sounds funny in English!" Like cool, I guess?

[@edwardvanwormer6993]

Hahaha,yes I want to see you bike camp with this!

[@IgabodDobagi]

When you said you were going to ride down that hill, all I could think was "Yeah, but you're not riding it back up that hill." lol. The brakes getting hot enough to sizzle when you poured water on them was slightly unexpected. But those disks definitely aren't big enough or thick enough to handle that kind of load without getting hot. I just didn't expect sizzling heat. Entertaining video though, thanks for that. My favorite part was when you realized it was a bad idea and then you realized there was nothing you could do about that so you kinda calmed down and focused a little more I guess on maintaining as little control as you were able to exert on it. Well done on that split second shift from panic to control. That shows your experience quite well. I think I'll be watching some more of your videos in the future.

[@emilymarriott5927]

It's not so much that it's built for a bike infrastructure that doesn't exist yet as that it's a design that gained popularity in a place whose bike infrastructure is a model the rest of the world should be following. This style cargo bike is very popular in the Netherlands, which has about the best bike infrastructure in the world as far as I'm aware. It's great that this style of cargo bike is making its way into the rest of the world. Now if only we could get our local governments to follow suit and build up infrastructure as well.

[@faustinpippin9208]

Bit why? Used evs are cheaper and almost free to run and are actually usefull and on top of that take almost or less space then this thing...

[@wouterbaake7386]

​@@faustinpippin9208 what? This style of cargo bike starts at 5000 euro new in the Netherlands. Show me a new/used EV for that price. Plus, this gets you to city centers without having to park a car in a paid parking garage. Plus, no taxes, low maintenance cost, much lower energy cost for charging and the kids actually get to see something while riding up front.

[@emilymarriott5927]

​@@faustinpippin9208 You should check out the youtube channel Not Just Bikes. In fact, he has a video about this style of bike. If you search for 'Not Just Bikes bakfiets' you should find it. The Netherlands has fantastic bike infrastructure that makes it a serious option for getting around. It really works well as a car replacement over there. Over here in North America, we definitely lack the infrastructure for it to be as viable of a bike. That seems to be changing slowly, but it will probably be a long while before we have cities where that style bike makes sense.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@faustinpippin9208 Learn that not everything is about 'your comfort'. You taking a car to places where you could ride this bike, means the infrastructure needs to build for cars. Cars and other traffic don't mix, so that's two types of infrastructure you need to build. 'actually useful' -> these bikes are VERY useful, just not for fat lazy Americans who see bikes only as exercise machines and who live in a country where zoning laws PROHIBIT a nice livable city design not centered around car usage. It's not all about you.

[@EMo5ive]

@@faustinpippin9208 car infrastructure is very expensive compared to bikes. Cities could save millions if they improved bike ability instead of making giant roads.

[@orsonincharge4879]

" so German " says to me high quality and well engineered .

[@MarvinWestmaas]

Or, as others like to put it: over engineered and to expensive 🤣🤣 Isn't that why Asia has made such steps, and German car manufacturers have had dropping sales lately?? Btw, Urban Arrow ( German brand no? ) had a recall in Europe due to faulty buckles iirc?

[@hoghopper]

... if you time traveled back to the 1970s

[@Exgrmbl]

@@MarvinWestmaas Yes. There are some areas where that still holds true, but at this point it's basically relying on former glories.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

As a devoted BMW masochist I'm not sure this statement will age well ❤️‍🩹😂

[@manoz6194]

@@Exgrmbl due to immigration and loss of its greatest government of all time in 1945

[@MarvinWestmaas]

1 minute in... Seth before you tell us why you think it's not a financially sound idea... did you consider other markets as the US? This kind of bike is perfect in a country like The Netherlands, it can be an actual car replacement for many many people.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

lol 11 minutes in... and it's German. Off course it's German.. and it's not meant for the US where city zoning puts schools and places to do groceries in places only accessible through a highway.

[@faustinpippin9208]

This is nothing like a car....

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@faustinpippin9208 No it's meant to replace one of this awful tin cans you use to drop of your kids and do your shopping with. Strange for fat Americans who thinks bikes are just for exercise, but pretty normal in the civilized world ;) You should watch NotJustBikes it might open your eyes about the hellscape you call 'home'.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@faustinpippin9208 It's mean to replace one, not be one. And it works like a dream, just not for fat lazy Americans which think that their cities are the pinnacle of living conditions.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@faustinpippin9208 ... not for lazy fat Americans or US wannabees perhaps, but in European countries which have decent infrastructure as result of not having the ridiculous zoning laws the US suffers from this is a viable car replacement for many people.

[@BlockCylinder]

"Choosing between a second car or a cargo bicycle" has been the sales pitch all along, but realistically the people who can afford these bikes can afford the bike and the car. So they buy both.

[@mountainbikemike]

Realistically the bike is a purchase that will last you a couple decades, like a car can. But with the car you are spending $5-10k every year just to keep it running, rego, fuel, insurance, far higher service costs and more depreciation. Its totally not true. I see people ditching their second car and saving buckets of money annually, with savings from the very first year. This bike has ALL the bells and whistles, but you can easily find bikes that do all the same things for 60% less money. Heaps of them

[@JasperJanssen]

Nah. People who can afford these bikes live - in quite a lot of cases - in a place where they can’t afford a second car, not because of the purchase price, which is like petty cash, but because of ongoing parking cost.

[@honestmstk9790]

Cant believe you poured water on those hot brakes, so many kids are gonna see this and warp their rotors.

[@L0ckenmaster]

Also it looked like he was braking non-stop. You get way more out of you brakes if you open them up for a split second every view seconds . It’s the same like old cars.

[@ThrashingCode]

BTW - the "if there's a problem once you leave problem..." is basically filled out the same way as with a car. You get insurance and you can get it "towed" by one of the companies in the bigger cities. If you're in the rural areas, kind of a different situation. Likely gotta rent a van (forget the trucks, they're horrible at carrying cargo bikes). As a rider/owner of an R&M Load 75 (and I've got vids on my channel too under a playlist for it) the gravel stunt is WILD! But then I think about hte things I've carried. Hasn't been THAT kind of weight but I've had a trailer AND the cargo bay stacked before.

[@ramdynebix]

Seth proving that the US is the 1970s, but with Internet. Or, a certain Hall and Oates song comes to mind 😂 It’s funny seeing the Americans going “what is this thing, nobody wants that” and the Europeans “I have one like that” (yes I am generalizing).

[@lighthunter1980]

Had my front loader now for almost a year and 3000km on it. Love the bike and experience. Kids love the connection to the nature. Best purchase ever (AU$16k).

[@Cato468]

Shout to how good your grass is looking in the background. Something only ppl 40+ will appreciate. 😅

[@BEANMAN111]

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[@dsp4392]

Having ditched my car over three years in exchange for an ebike, I've considered a cargo bike many times. In the end they don't make a ton of sense for most people. Cargo bikes are the pickup/SUV of the bike world. They have their place, but only for a tiny portion of the population. If it goes down the same way as light trucks, we're going to see people riding these everywhere with the box empty. So we'll end up with more strain on biking infrastructure, more space required to park them, and one commenter from Germany already said people are leasing these, so more people buying more than they can afford. All for the occasional haul. Again, they do make sense for people with kids in a very specific age range (too young and it's unsafe, too old and they can ride their own bike), and people who do need to haul stuff all the time for work or projects. Outside of that, the ideal scenario is a happy mix of short term rentals, availability through bikeshare programs, and good old trailers.

[@radium4194]

At what point is it an engineless motorcycle

[@isaacseay5444]

That cargo space would be good for someone that worked a food delivery service or running items around a large industrial complex

[@winstonflame]

Great running into you back in February (fist bumped you on a climb with 2 other buddies in Asheville). I've had a Yuba Mundo longtail and Yuba Supermarche front box 'bakfiet' for a few years now. Those things are so fun and functional. That 'Ca Go' (insert Boston accent) is amazing, nice job reviewing as always!

[@codeman99-dev]

15:16 "This is for when everybody's riding bikes, for when it just doesn't even make sense to *ride* a car anymore." What a line. Excuse me while I go *ride* my car to the local ice cream shoppe.

[@ParvTubeHD]

Same lmao, Bikes will never be for me, its just a fun toy that I use every once in a while and that's about it, it sucks for mostly everything

[@L0ckenmaster]

It depends where you life and what you do. I had do 35-45k Miles a year only in my work time. In some places I would have been much faster by bike , sadly my working material needed special equipment so no easy switching. Where I life now I am more or less always faster on bike desbid a very good car-infrastructure.

[@Thatsme849]

@@ParvTubeHD Really depends where you live. In my city you definitely do not want to take your car into the center of town and riding your bike is by farrr your best bet

[@Visionism]

I like that the second shot of the bike was "Look at these shitty welds"

[@markwilliams5654]

Fits tiny adults lol 🤣

[@RealMTBAddict]

Or large children, like Seth.

[@AMPProf]

GAINT people BURNNNED haa .. Lolz

[@daylightdies7194]

Now this is genius for nursery schools to take the little stinkers to the beach or to a local play park 🇬🇧😊😊

[@la-go-xy]

There some with boxes for approx 8 little ones over in Europe ...

[@NicholasW943]

This thing looks so incredible, but I don't think we'd ever see them in the U.S. The only consistently bike-friendly places are some parts of cities here and a bike with that much tech on it would be stolen pronto. If suburbs were more bike-friendly, I could see some richer suburbs having this. It looks like it'd be wonderful for a young well-off family. Looks fun to ride and if I were a kid, I'd definitely prefer being in there than in a car. I'd be nervous off-roading on it because of the length, but I'm sure some easy biking trails would also make for a fun afternoon for a mom and her kids.

[@nathanwatson1915]

CAGO means ... "I take a dump" in Portuguese. Maybe Spanish too.

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[@MichaelJackson12316]

prosperity. Anyway, any chance you could recommend me to your financial advisor ? I need some help investing this year.

[@positiivi_teme]

Quite an american comment to wonder why would a bike designer think about the safety of pedestrians. 😐 And the design features of that bike is so high, that there's no point of complaining about the price, especially when you factor how much car markets are saturated with oversized and overpriced suv's and pickups that are used for city commuting.

[@faustinpippin9208]

The price is a joke, you cac buy a used ev for less that is 1 milion Times more useful and also drive almost for free

[@johngilman760]

Smart that they went with Bosch motors, battery etc. High quality and batteries are not going to burn your house down. This is really a nice cargo to challenge Riese and Muller! Also , one would expect Enviolo and Gates belt drive.with such a nice ebike.

[@vitor_or]

5:33 from a short guy to another, i felt that bro 😔👊🏻

[@teundilles]

If this is paid for, you need to list it as such.

[@Room1sixtyfive]

For $10k I can buy a nice car, these people are delusional.

[@amosbatto3051]

Have you seen the cost of new cars lately? Once you add in the cost of gasoline and maintenance, the $10k cargo bike is cheaper in terms of total cost of ownership. However, if your goal is to economize, you are probably going to buy a model that costs $3k - $6k.

[@Room1sixtyfive]

@@amosbatto3051 I bought a 2016 ford explorer for $7k a couple months ago

[@eatshiy]

$10k?....not for a freaking bicycle!😖😖