I think that Vivziepop is innocent.

[@RandomGameCritic]

Okay, so far there have been SEVERAL people that still think that Viv is a piece of shit because of "the horrible way that she treated Scott Cawthon." I'm confident that all of the people who made this claim have only heard stories from other people and have never actually looked up what she did. Because what she did was post a single tweet. Here is the tweet: _The best part is he lists all this shit, but considering Republican politics, he's basically saying that his Christian and pro-life stance outweighs his stance on science and equality and everything else that they are actively working against LOL._ Her tweets got slightly more angry and aggressive after she got freaking DOXXED in response to this, but this is all that she ever said about Scott directly. And in my opinion, she was 100% right. But even if you disagree with me and Viv's political views, saying that Viv "treated Scott horribly" is just pathetic. You can be mad that Scott Cawthon had his entire career ended because the Twitter mob didn't like his politics. But blaming Viv for all of it is just being toxic and dumb. Oh, and let's not forget that Scott's fans doxxed her in response to this tweet. But yeah, Scott was the real victim, here. Sure.

[@MajinMist603]

^

[@agentwolf5305]

Even though I’m a fan of yours, you could’ve include the FULL tweet to everyone who hasn’t seen the long ass tweet can read it all and not a small piece.

[@RandomGameCritic]

@@agentwolf5305 Huh? That was literally the only thing that I could find. The rest of her tweets seemed to be in response to Scott's fans lashing out at her. Did I miss something?

[@Unholy_Triforce]

@@agentwolf5305 what exactly is missing from this?

[@JLacay]

I still think Viv shouldn't have made that tweet on Scott Cawthon for his political view. Making an angry tweet because he has a different political view isn't the wisest thing to do and it was pretty stupid of her to do so for it will make you look immature and cause an outrage. I ain't political, but I know when you rant about it through Twitter, you're basically kicking a hornets nest.

[@EternalEdgeLord]

>Disappears for 7 months >Comes back out of nowhere to defend someone he often critiques (rightfully so) Absolute chad move

[@thatguywhofreakedtheduck7991]

Can u tell me what's this controversy about?

[@EternalEdgeLord]

@@thatguywhofreakedtheduck7991 Basically, some former members of the team accused viv of picking favourites and some other stuff that I don't remember well like something involving pay idk just watch the vids he linked in the desc

[@moniker4008]

@@thatguywhofreakedtheduck7991 someone claiming to be a spindlehorse employee made several allegations against Viv but the allegations didn't hold water since it's just words with no pictures. It was a set up from the looks of it

[@RavenStarMedia]

To be fair about him disappearing for seven months, there hasn't been new Helluva content since then to do an Everything Wrong With video on.

[@E3AloeLi]

I agree fully on this shit, I remember back when someone said her zoophobia comic had a “pediphilic relationship” when it was a fucking senior in highschool and a graduate from said highschool. They even explicitally takes about seeing each other in the halls.

[@nobinary2296]

I know. Vivzie even posted their ages. Their ages were there for ANYONE to look up yet people just ran with it. That's why I promote doing your own research before jumping onto the bandwagon.

[@CheesenMac123]

They said it was p*dophilia for two people less than a year apart to have a relationship? Wtf

[@CheesenMac123]

@@nobinary2296 Yeah and if the characters were 17 and 19 like GameCritic said, then that isn’t too bad. It’s less than two years and a 19 year old isn’t any more of an adult mentally than a 17 year old. The only difference is in legal status which was decided arbitrarily.

[@NOTDeezy.]

i personally don't get what's wrong with a 17 year old and a 19 year old dating its still two teens in school

[@E3AloeLi]

@@NOTDeezy. yeah

[@draculaura_keyblade]

the thing about these allegations too is there are no screenshots so that was part of why i struggle to believe them, as much as i'd like to trust and believe people in this case ( some of these claims are pretty serious ), they aren't really showing evidence

[@draculaura_keyblade]

only one person who i do believe was able to share a screenshot ( also that situation wasn't even a big deal in itself, it was just over someone wanting their name attached to art, vs some of these other claims ) but i think those cases aren't the huge groups that are getting popular because vivziepop has been losing a lot of her fans as well since the hazbin pilot dropped tbh with more drama, and then times where she has lashed out a bit on her twitter, even i can be a bit annoyed with her attitude on their sometimes but i don't hate her, she hasn't really done anything to warrant more than me just being irritated at her sometimes when she gets a little snippy with the fandom

[@MaestroKatProductions]

@@draculaura_keyblade Yeah, I've seen that screenshot. Unless Sam Miller (have to write full name cus there's also Sam Haft lol) is some sort of calculating and manipulative psychopath, which I highly doubt she is, it was quite a professional convo and didn't rlly do much to corroborate the other allegations.

[@arandomladywithabadsleepsc1748]

Screenshots aren’t really reliable. Anyone could fake a photo of someone saying horrible things. Viv isn’t that good of a person, and I do believe these incidents were very likely, but don’t say “well I want screenshots”, since in the moment you are unlikely to, and anyone can fake a picture of some letters on a screen.

[@CamSiv996]

Where I am from, the law would want evidence or proof before setting up an arrangements for court.

[@dylandreisbach1986]

All internet drama has screenshots. I have not seen one allegation of online statements that don’t have images to back it up. A deleted tweet from 2009 is still shown as proof. Yeah I don’t believe any of the drama.

[@memedaddy5817]

When you talked about being transphobic in the past and how you changed, I genuinely gained so much respect for you. It takes a lot to admit when you’re wrong or when you think you’re wrong, and I respect the hell out of you for that.

[@memedaddy5817]

@@snsnshhhs663 You certainly have

[@km20765]

@@snsnshhhs663 Honestly, I wish more people could think this way when they disagree with stuff like this. You may not agree with it, but you don't go out of your way to hurt people and hate on them.

[@NRNfr]

@@snsnshhhs663 except for zoophiles

[@Deepseadread6]

@@snsnshhhs663 I hate this type of shit please just be transphobic openly 😭😭 you can’t “not believe” in someone existing

[@memedaddy5817]

@@Deepseadread6 There’s a difference between thinking something isn’t real and hating it. Just because you don’t believe in transgenderism doesn’t mean you hate it.

[@cerberus2534]

I honestly wish I could help her. I would love to just sit down and listen to all her distress and show that there are people that support her so diligently. Yeah, I'm just a stranger to her, and vice versa, but I don't want to talk to her because "ooo famous," I want to talk to her because she is a person in distress, a person who has her own unique thoughts and feelings, just like everybody else.

[@Author-Chan_1]

Same. I don't even know what the hell is going on and why shit like this keeps happening, but I still want to help.

[@nobinary2296]

It's not the first time the internet has done something like this to someone and sadly it won't be the last. There's this one guy, won't say his name, because the sheer amount of dedication people have about spreading misinformation about this guy? Staggering. It's sad how people will try to throw any allegation they can that sticks onto a dart board in hopes to bring people down. Without evidence or they'll go through the effort of fabricating it and taking off key parts of convos to make their argument sound convincing. Like yeah bro. If someone is in an argument where they're trying to defend themselves against a bunch of toxic angry people? They're not going to be nice. What a shock that the person defending themselves against verbal abuse isn't nice to people verbally abusing them. Or they'll take one text and turn it completely over on it's head and make leaps in logic to make an accusation no where near similar to what the victim said. If you defend yourself? You lose. If you don't defend yourself? You lose. It's terrifying how we have gotten to this point in society.

[@maitamitsuhide]

did you type all of this with your nose

[@Author-Chan_1]

@@maitamitsuhide Why you ask?

[@maitamitsuhide]

@@Author-Chan_1im not talking about you

[@RandomGameCritic]

Ignore the text box in the corner at 1:36. This is literally just and old gaming video I dug up and I didn't notice that old text annotation.

[@fynnthefox9078]

I honestly feel super bad for Viv. She's clearly a passionate artist and she has to deal with stuff like this. And it doesn't help her mental health at all.

[@jockdouglass3824]

About that.... there a new document that shows some things she said and did. She pressured a person into signing a shady contract an threating to sue with her lawyers just because that person wanted credit for writing a good chunk of the script and then Viv goes behind his back and talks dirty about him and accuses him of being a ped0 even though she knew him while he was a younger kid sorry pal but I've seen the things she's said hell she's the one that canceled Scott cawthon she's deleted her tweets but some screen shots can still be found I'm tired of people defending her when she's just really nasty it's like those people who defend stella is bullcrap and everyone knows it but heaven forbid that some speak up cause her millions of adoring fans will kill you. Please open your eyes just look up the evidence its out I want her crimes to be known just please look. at. The. Evidence. She's fooled to many people I want everyone to know who she really is.

[@gwlm2679]

@@jockdouglass3824 dude, THANK YOU, I’ve been trying to say this crap for like a year, she may not be doing anything necessarily illegal but she’s just a bad person. My friend had to email her because we got into a situation with a friend that impersonated one of her friends and she acted very rude to handle the situation

[@jockdouglass3824]

@@gwlm2679 I'm sorry that happened to you but it is nice to see others who also know about her

[@MaestroKatProductions]

Yeah, other than the fact that no tangible evidence has been revealed, it doesn't help that some of the people giving the situation attention literally see it as a black and white situation (I mean, has no one learnt from the Johnny Depp situation???). For now, I'll still proceed to enjoy whatever Hazbin or Helluva stuff Viv and Spindlehorse put out until further proof materialises. Tbh, Sam Miller (Viv's friend) being dragged into this was the thing I least expected from the drama. Edit: this doesn't mean I 100% doubt the authenticity of the claims tho. Animation is stressful (especially with how much less animators are paid compared to live action show) and it seems miscommunication was a common factor between the various allegations that I have read (ironically enough, some of the ones I read are working in other animations that I'm already huge fans of lol), which I hope Viv at least addresses should she make a statement, even if the claims are unfounded.

[@MaestroKatProductions]

@@felixhunter589 Oof, hope that experience didn't leave too bad an impression. I've never met her irl b4 (or practically anyone who worked on the show) but I hope Sam Miller also addresses what people have so far said of her.

[@Lolsu.]

To be real I do think that Sam could be a big Problem becouse the Original Tumbler Post said that Sam kinda stopped the Workers of contacting Viv and that in Most Case’s Sam was the one toxic who would bully/harass the worker class

[@47ratsinahoodie]

I remember one person commenting on this whole thing saying that there's a chance these employees just saw HB as fun times and didn't understand meeting deadlines and being particular with their work and that totally makes sense. If your animators are more concerned with interacting with you and goofing off or taking their time but that time taking too long, I totally understand being more direct with them about meeting deadlines and having quality work.

[@47ratsinahoodie]

@@Lolsu. Yeah out of this whole situation the only person I would even consider criticizing is Sam Miller cause it's common for people's best friends to be harsher or more critical than themselves so that their friend has only the best. And if left unchecked can become very problematic.

[@whitefang2312]

Unfortunately the hate train for Vivzie is very intense. I’m in a lot of servers on Discord where you can’t mention Viv at all, like you can *banned* for mentioning her or her shows. It’s fucking ridiculous. These people shit-talk her so much, but the second you go against them, they kick you out of the echo chamber- I mean, discord server

[@nobinary2296]

Wow. It great to come across someone else who knows about echo chambers. It's refreshing to see people educating themselves on these subjects. It's honestly the explanation for a lot of the strife that's going on these days. People setting themselves up in these each chambers so they can all keep their confirmation bias. It's really mind boggling to me that people don't research anything anymore. I mean I learned how to do that from the 3rd Grade on up. It's not hard and anyone can do it. We have all this technology and info at our fingertips and they would rather sit on their buts. Believing the first person with a microphone or angry enough voice without stopping to think if it's worth joining the mob.

[@whitefang2312]

@@nobinary2296 Mhm. Honestly for me, if I see someone talk shit about someone else, I don't make an opinion until I do the research and see the information for myself. Unfortunately, a lot of my generation thinks even THAT is too much work, and it's disappointing tbh

[@justnojustn3036]

There is only two ways this could end . A video called the fall of hazbin hotel or the same way that one time an old editor of mrbeast said he was abusive and toxic .

[@MaestroKatProductions]

Don't forget ProJared and Johnny Depp

[@amberzartz4333]

They said W H A T about mrbeast? ISN'T LIKE- mrbeast the most wholesome ytber?

[@Nine_Tails_Kenji]

Sorry bro I chose option c NONE OF THEM

[@SamRen-db6kh]

Really quick, as a Texan trans person from a deeply religious community and religious trauma, it means a lot to hear your story. Thank you for sharing and I am appreciative of how you praise representation in your EWW episodes.

[@RandomGameCritic]

I've been following what's going on in Texas. You need to get out of there, dude.

[@SamRen-db6kh]

@@RandomGameCritic I'm an adult with a huge supportive family. I'll be okay as long as I have them. Besides. They need my vote

[@josefaksoy42]

As a Vaushite I quickly learned that people hate popular people for seemingly no reason and try to find something that looks bad and roll with thats the reason they hated said person, hell they’ll even make shit up to justify hating someone

[@duckhawkninja3614]

Vaushites unite!

[@josefaksoy42]

@@duckhawkninja3614 WE ARE LEGION

[@tamarbeker1701]

Okay, now- it's not like he never did anything seriously wrong ever, yeah? But the demonization is just completely out of proportion.

[@jamesdriffield3106]

yooooooooooo

[@Imovedonty]

I personally had the feeling that her ex co-workers just couldn't handle the stress and critics in the studio and are trying to find someone to blame,like sure the bosses can be a bit harsh and very critical when it come to a animation but that's to be expected when you're trying to make something good, so in short, I have the feeling they overreacted a tad bit and just can't handle criticism. 🤷‍♀️

[@47ratsinahoodie]

Mhmm, especially if they were initially fans of the show cause then they're so caught up in having achieved their dream of working with Viv that they forget that this is a job and there are deadlines to meet.

[@michylichy01]

That why im never interesting in the artist, i just consume the product and i dont care about the creator, fandom, or whatever they do in the past. Separing the art from the artist can make your life more calm and happy

[@MaestroKatProductions]

Eh, it helps to be wary of the artist a bit. I mean German funny moustache man made some passable paintings and Charles Manson made some decent songs. But, in the age where lots of digital content is monetised and money reaches the creator at the click of a button, it's best to be a bit cautious even tho I still believe 'separating the art from the artist' still holds weight. Probably why I don't really stream any songs by Daughters after what their vocalist did.

[@dylandreisbach1986]

Viv drama is so weird. Just like people hate her and want to have excuses for hating her for seemingly no reason. I hope more people see that she has no actual drama besides petty people.

[@KangarooMonkey]

I had no idea this was going on. Honestly I forgot about her entirely.

[@draculaura_keyblade]

some people posted horror stories of her mistreating her employees, most of them claiming to be former employees but never really showed evidence

[@KangarooMonkey]

@@draculaura_keyblade I figured that out from what was said in the video.

[@sarahni]

What bothers me most is how impossible it is to navigate through fandom spaces with so many people shitting on everything she does for no reason

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

Agreed. This controversy is a total sham. Everyone has different experience with people, and Vivz having had these problems in the past is an easy target for little drama queens and trouble makers to turn into a pariah no matter what she does to rectify the situation. It's bullshit. She might not be a perfect goddess of pure innocence and happy joy lovey sunshine, but she isn't as terrible as these trolls and angry little nobodies WANT her to be.

[@acisme6442]

As a member of the LGBT community, the attitude of "I don't understand it, but I will respect the people who do" is so, so important to me and I wish more people would adopt it. I'm pansexual and polyamorous. I can not understand how someone could only be attracted to a single gender, or why so many people feel as though love is something that can only occur between you and one other partner at a time. Does that mean I'm going to insist everyone is bisexual but hasn't realized it, yet, or that monogamous people are just possessive and toxic? No, lmao, because even though I can't relate to how someone else feels, I understand that someone's sexuality (and gender, for that matter!) doesn't *have* to be the same as mine to be valid, and it isn't a sign of immorality either. People are just wired differently! And that's by design, too-- we as a species have gotten here because of our diversity, not in spite of it.

[@pokthepossum]

W comment

[@flintson2268]

“If you don’t know the controversy I’m not explaining it” well then how am I suppose to get a full picture of the situation my man cmon

[@artistanthony1007]

I did think this but after everything I've seen and her blocking at me for my criticisms of things like use of budget and said maybe budget wouldnt be an issue if you hired indie actors and acknowledged it could have helped until the budget is big enough so I do not see her as innocent, in fact someone who is actually villanous and narcissistic, like look at everything people have said especially in videos showing her tweets and other tweets made seperately and you can see Viv is not actually a good person.

[@TrackerMusic70]

to reverse something that Homer Simpson said "Just because I dont understand, doesnt mean I dont care"

[@Yipyipyay]

Yeah it is BS They have 0 evidence and the current employees love working with her. Like at least show some proof. "Bro trust me" isn't a valid source

[@baronvonbatz05]

3:33 IT STILL SIN SHE DID

[@rexventura4603]

I believe in innocent until in proven guilty. I have no reason to doubt the accusations, but at the same time I can’t blindly believe them. For now all I can do is remain skeptic and listen to both sides and wait for more information to come out, if any more does. Although right now I’m leaning toward Vivzie because more, credible, people are actually coming in defense of her so unless they’re just lying for her(which I doubt) I don’t have much of a reason to not believe Vivzie.

[@RavenStarMedia]

Good video! Also, I'm honestly equally excited for July 30th both because "more Helluva Boss content" and "RandomGameCritic will soon do another Helluva Boss CinemaSins video". :) Honestly watching your videos brings me about as much joy as Helluva Boss itself does.

[@yung_freaks]

Yo same, I'm so hyped

[@deepfriedcheesecake5976]

missed you dude. cancel culture is really insane, people look for anything to have a feeling of superiority, and vivziepop is easy to throw shit at without getting any lashback because shes famous enough to not actually feel like a real person to them but not famous enough to have any unconditional support like actual celebrities. Contrapoints has a good video on cancel culture imo, it goes in depth into the psychology of it. it’s a terrible development in society

[@Rhyscele]

People who side with vivzie 👇

[@CRKindle149]

My ex believed the vivzepop shenanigan that was going on, and when I told her about what I thought of hazbin hotel she told me that, at first I thought it was true, but after watching things like this I now know she was wrong 😑

[@umbria_666]

I genuinely do not, and probably never will fully, understand why the hell people think it's okay (or even fun) to ruin other people's careers and/or lives based off of minimal information. I mean, there's a reason why I no longer have a reddit account, but are 5 minutes of validated "happiness" worth the lifetime of another? Even IF that person has wronged you- I mean, most of these people have never even met Viv- why waste your or their time trying to validate a point that will ultimately lead to more unhappiness and distrust???

[@justnojustn3036]

If Mr.Critic has now made a video on this . This is something serious as Mr.Critic never makes videos

[@chico7225]

So true tbh

[@thyweebhub]

I cant say I feel the same honestly, I’ve had my gripes with her especially after the Scott Cawthon thing went down, and she really can’t take criticism like at all. I wont be surprised if it comes out that she’s extremely toxic cause the signs are there but people just don’t seem to want to acknowledge it because they love Hazbin Hotel Or Helluva Boss

[@RandomGameCritic]

Okay, can you please read the pinned comment and tell me what I'm missing? I mentioned the whole Scott Cawthon thing and I really don't know what I'm missing about this story. And despite my obvious stance on the issue (I'm siding firmly against Scott) I want to whole story so that I can be fair and balanced.

[@thyweebhub]

@@RandomGameCritic don’t need to read it cause it’s a matter of right and wrong and Obviously she was in the wrong to be vouching for him getting Doxxed, she even seemed happy about it that it happened but then when it happened to her it’s not okay. That’s what we call hypocrisy my guy and if you don’t get that then I don’t know what else to tell you🤷🏾‍♂️literally take the time and type in “Vivzie Pop and Scott Cawthon” and it’s some of the top videos about how she is a hypocrite and as a fan it’s disappointing to see a grown woman act like a child, let alone her lack of being able to take criticism

[@RandomGameCritic]

​@@thyweebhub Well, just to refresh your memory, here is the one tweet that she made: _The best part is he lists all this shit, but considering Republican politics, he's basically saying that his Christian and pro-life stance outweighs his stance on science and equality and everything else that they are actively working against LOL._ That's literally all that she said. Yes, she was clearly firing shots and Scott for his Christian morals and his political beliefs. But nowhere did she say that she was happy that he got doxxed, or even happy that he got cancelled. This tweet is literally all that she said. The remainder of Viv's tweets were all in response to fans who started attacking _her._

[@casperbinnett8265]

@@thyweebhub people like you are the reason she got doxxed. She didn't say ANY if that horrible stuff

[@thyweebhub]

@@casperbinnett8265 cry more, cause there’s evidence and I’ll show your in denial ass💀🥱message me on Instagram kid, I’ll drop those links on you

[@pumbkin4903]

I spoke up against her haters and her on twitter. She has been proven a bad owner is some states but the fan base or haters brand her to the point to actually participate in the abuse of her workers. As I said “I don’t believe she’s innocent, but I can’t say you guys are either” and got multiple comments of disagreements and agreements. I must say as much as how uninformed people are, and how much vizziepop has been proven that way. People came up with fake evidence either way. Vizziepop I believe was really pissed in some states that some evidence isn’t real. However multiple workers said the same abusive stories about her in different times. But I did realize their stories were based off of a worker that said she fucked up their mental health.. and as much as she is guilty, the workers stories are over dramatic and based off one another to just specially offend the community and her into the point they all believe it. Not to mention they didn’t even HAVE proof of her abusive powers or actions against them! I believe it is a bunch of bull shit but vizziepop has made countable things like homophobia transphobia and pedophila, nobody in these stories are innocent at all. Vizziepop might just be the most innocent one there however..

[@artistanthony1007]

Umm dude don't paint every hater as a vile monster, you criticize these people doing this stuff and I have to criticize you for using those monstrous groups to represent those that hate her.

[@artistanthony1007]

You implying haters of her are just sickos is insulting & sick in of itself, I'm reporting you for this comment.

[@Rainbonana]

I think it says a lot that the person who literally makes content, critiquing every single detail of Viv’s shows. Even THEY think a lot of the awful things said about her are oversaturated

[@pikaqte5418]

My brother has personally cancelled vivziepop due to the things that have happened, which sucks because I didn't know this until after my gf showed me the show. I don't get shut down for mentioning it but the few times I have he would keep ranting about why he doesn't watch or support her content- as if I don't know already. He doesn't explicitly shut me down but it hurts to know I can't really talk about something I love with him, especially because I doubt the rest of the family would like it. I personally don't believe in cancelling creators for every possible sin they've ever done because by that logic I am eternally cancelled for having been toxic and abusive in the past. It's not on the Internet, more a personal irl thing but you know these things would somehow get found out. Anyways, I am glad to hear that you are willing to be open about the trans community, and more importantly you leave it be. You don't yell at it because you know you don't understand it but you also don't claim to know what's best or what it should be like because you don't know it. You're willing to listen rather than preach uselessly

[@Dreahuggsalot]

Hatred hurts you if you hate! People should ALREADY know this!

[@baronvonbatz05]

3:11 this was evil

[@moniker4008]

Glad to know we're on the same page

[@emilianovillarreal3358]

People who start making drama over something that has happened in the past that's already been resolved or just starting drama because they love to bring down people is honestly pathetic these people have no life ahead of them if they are dedicating their lives to start any sort of drama then it's obvious that they are pathetic losers

[@Battleshipfan]

well i didnt believe the allegations since the beginning but in the AyyLmao videos where i commented there were people who tried to convince me that the allegations were true and that viv was guilty of course i didnt believe them and held hope that they would be proven wrong and im glad i did believe so

[@floofdoq2460]

She went from colorful and immersive to Michael Myers for Hire.

[@kingsteve9598]

Ya i dont agree with any of the allegations against viv its honestly dumb and they probably wanted to do it for attention.

[@koishi_da_thing]

Look, a couple of mistakes when you're at a younger and have no idea what you were doing back then is ok. However making your employees works so much and in little time is not ok. I know there's not much evidence to this claim but the point stands that people shouldn't be this restricted outside their work environment.

[@47ratsinahoodie]

Anyone who gets an animation job should understand that there are deadlines that need to be met and if they can't meet them, they wither need to talk to their employer or find a different animation job; that's unfortunately how it is. Productions can't screech to a halt for you. Obviously there's a point beyond reason but I honestly don't think Viv's reached this point considering each episode is in production for so damn long

[@jchannah5960]

I did more research and I think there is not enough evidence that makes viv this horrible person that they say she is and people need to grow up and stop hating on people

[@Ishii_the_abomination]

This man is a massive W

[@baronvonbatz05]

She never apologized

[@baronvonbatz05]

She did sin art

[@mythicdrop3051]

yooooo i loved ori, but its a too complicated for me.

[@jubjub5026]

Ori and the wisps ❤

[@yourresidentanon4169]

I don’t think she’s innocent. Sometimes people can get caught up in their own fame and forget about their values. The deadline rushing? Yeah, that sounds like a COVID thing, and I don’t blame vivzie for not adapting. However, workplace misconduct is her fault, especially if she’s doing what the reports claim she is.

[@MaestroKatProductions]

Even though I don't share your stance, I do agree that working when cov was still around was likely a factor for initial issues, tho it is unknown if things have improved as of now. Guess we'll just have to wait for now

[@casperbinnett8265]

It would be, but the overworking was debunked a while ago (employees personally chose how many scenes to work on) and everything else seems to be coming from really uncredible sources- mostly really green and Inexperienced artists. Which makes it sound more likely that this was a jarring change of work environment they weren't ready for and becuase of the casual structure, weren't as supported in as they needed. But that all is just miscommunication, not malice.

[@fnaf6491]

Finally someone said it's Bulsh**

[@eatatjoe]

I think she's innocent too.

[@sillyMiester]

Source?, I made it the fuck up - senator Armstrong

[@marksagrero8806]

I don't think it's okay for the fans of Scott Cawthon to yell at Vivienne Medrano like that. It's all because of legal issues, she just needs some rest from social media due to angry Twitter mob when they got angry at her for not releasing episode 8 of Helluva Boss but due to legal issues, it's really hard. Vivienne "Viziepop" Medrano is the most wonderful creator of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, she have been created cartoons and founder of Spindlehorse Toons studio since 2012, but no one should show her disrespectful, it is a failure expression to make her look bad, their opinions are suck, my opinion, Vivienne "Viziepop" Medrano is the greatest, I love her and her hard work, she was at Too Many Games convention since June 24, 2022 and she show everyone with a sneak peek (preview) of episode 2 of Helluva Boss season 2. Everyone, that creator will never be gone, she is always around and she will still work on Helluva Boss. LAY OFF!

[@baibtch]

Wonder how much this is holding up now

[@TheUnmitigatedDawn]

It's still mostly holding up

[@SomebodyWhoExists23]

Her beeing innocent isnt probably correct now but the things he pointed up still hold up

[@yo-kaikid76]

still pretty much holding up

[@CSCS20]

it seems like your defending everything she does,with that Scott situation it does make her questionable.

[@Unholy_Triforce]

Ok?

[@CSCS20]

@@Unholy_Triforce Ok?

[@Unholy_Triforce]

@@CSCS20 I'm bot understanding anything going through people's mind when they think she's guilty. There isn't any actual proof of anything lol

[@CSCS20]

@@Unholy_Triforce well the Scott situation says otherwise

[@Unholy_Triforce]

@@CSCS20 care to elaborate? Or not?

[@aidsan1454]

Can’t wait until your next video

[@WhimsicalBunn]

I'm sorry but I know the person who ran the Instagram personally and can arrest to some experienced.

[@birdlife4065]

Me too one angry employee is trying to dishonor her name I don't know the facts but I'm telling you one versus 12 yeah

[@ILoveAngelGabby]

doesn't mean she's a good person either with what happened prior to this happening, some just blindly praise her for the work that's been put out by her crew. they deserve as much credit besides herself. it's one of those instances where you just got to separate the art from the artist. I know I'm gonna get salty butthurt fans whining at me over how I see her but I could care less lmao

[@lechocolat3783]

What gives you the wisdom to say if she's a good or bad person though? You don't know her and neither do I or anyone else that hasn'tpersonallyworked with her. I agree that we shouldn't blindly praise people just because we like their content...but we also shouldn't dismiss people that we don't know as being "bad" just because of some playground drama on Twitter. Also, her animators get tons of praise as well....we all know Vivziepop didn't singlehandedly make the show.....that would be silly.

[@ILoveAngelGabby]

@@lechocolat3783 yeah ok

[@WolfgangXP65-67]

And this is why I don't hate Viv, but more so lost respect for her because of letting the writing go downhill for season 2, not planning the story of the show at all, and going to Twitter and thinking everyone else can't take criticism for the life of them. Though with me defending some things in S1 E8, I am kind of softening up, but please Viv, take control of your show's writing, you need to coach Adam Neylan, not let him off the hook. And the salty butthurt fans, like, OMG HAHAHHAHAHA so true. Like, they just PRAISE what comes out because it is Vivziepop. I get very angry at that because it reminds me of myself as a child when watching pre-school television shows that are like, BAD but I still praise them because I don't know lol. Even though I am sure they know, most of them either are self-righteous pricks or literal children. I just can't see any credibility built there.

[@emmanuelcarter3551]

She has flaws just like everyone else and that's what makes us human. I'm a fan if Vivi, but that doesn't excuse what she said about Scott because of his politics. of course she can disagree with his politics, doesn't mean she has to sound like a bit of a dick about it. Besides, this is coming from a girl who made an animated FNAF's video before and Scott is the creator of FNAF's. However, I don't agree with people slandering her name just for clout. Also. She even explained herself she has flaws herself. But, she however needs to learn to take criticism lightly. As I looked into her tweets for new stuff she posted, there's nothing that'll cause drama around this time and it's nothing but Hazbin Hotel, Helluva Boss, and other stuff she talks about. I don't see her ranting about politics that she used to do. I think she has finally moved on with her life and everyone should too. If she wasn't moving on with her life, she would still think she's in the right ad if she behaves that way, she wouldn't be who was she was anymore because she needs support from fans in order to continue her series. Hell, she makes characters in her cartoons have flaws. They're not mean spirited or nothing. They have human-like emotions like the rest of us, even if her two shows are not perfect and I won't get to that.

[@emmanuelcarter3551]

BTW, to give out another explanation, if you think she's a part of the SJW's, if she was, she were to talk about people being racists and Nazis and other bullcrap or try to censor every little thing she can find. She just has her own politics (such as not liking Donald Trump and that's not a SJW thing). Everybody (even if they aren't SJWs) have their own politics. I'm not a fan of politics myself, but I am explaining people are different no matter what. It has something to do with her ego, is all. And I think she knows what Cancel Culture is. These people complain about little things and try to destroy her for years. I think the CHERUBS are not exactly Cancel Culture since they're angels, but that's what I'm talking about. They want to censor literally everything just because it "offends" them to make them be watered down.

[@baronvonbatz05]

Rip 9:35

[@The_RedJoker]

Trans is becoming the other sex so isn't it still two genders?

[@The_RedJoker]

I'm confused

[@MikeG.F.L.]

​@@The_RedJokerso am i

[@JÆuroriz]

When you’re trans your gender isn’t the sex you where born as Gender and sex are different, and there’s a bit of in between with both(non-binary and intersex)

[@Plastic_bitz]

I don't know

[@Rhyscele]

👍

[@capt.artemislivius7601]

I Respectfully and Heavily Disagree...

[@alchemy3610]

Give me the tea But um someone explain me the controversy

[@alchemy3610]

@@roofogato okay thank you for giving me the tea

[@baronvonbatz05]

If you draw Pedo Art you need to stop

[@beautifulmanstan8840]

Chad 👌😎👍

[@FlameyFiredog]

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