I TOLD YOU

[@JoshuaSchmidtYGO]

How would you rate this list out of 10?

[@grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670]

Honestly, pretty good. It's hit a lot of the problematic cards and shows that MD is keeping an eye on the right cards and listening to feedback. Really hoping this is a sign of even better times to come 8/10

[@ymaluz]

8/10 10/10 would be -maxx C and shifter banned. -More floodgates ban -Gamma back to 2 -runick funtain to 2

[@Thegameshadow1]

Love the excitement in the video. We can clearly see how happy you are about max C. :)

[@jhownald]

8/10 i guess

[@MegaMetal96]

Runick empty jar is real now

[@nguyenphamthanhgiang8951]

So Secret Village of the Spellcasters is too secret no one has ever found it again.

[@Malidala]

Weird because Ancient Fairy Dragon was able to find it so consistently.

[@Wrath8036]

Well... isn't that the point of a secret? That no one is not allowed to find it?

[@MesSussy]

@@Malidalait’s never weird, if you been sticking around for MD meta you know that Rainbow Bridge, Draco Slayer Pegasus and Horn Saurus are the reason why they banned that card

[@Malidala]

@MesSussy That was a joke.

[@justwatchinfunnyvids]

​@MesSussy there are a few other decks that are the cause aswell but your right and voiceless is one of the biggest reasons summon limit got hit

[@arielgomes7989]

Dismantling Maxx C gonna feel so good

[@NoName.9532]

Dismantling 3 would’ve made me busss 😩

[@TheotherTempestfox]

Sam from team samurai gonna be sad, He spent so much money getting royal maxx C

[@user-ib4vp3ju7z]

Do we get full dust refund like in Hearthstone?

[@nbell5050]

Not for me cause I've only ever crafted 2.

[@Squatch_And_Learn]

@@user-ib4vp3ju7z You always get full refunds on cards getting hit. Just make sure you dust them AFTER the changes take effect, that's when the refund is available

[@coobea]

that damn smirk

[@albertocalore2414]

He looks so happy

[@Mugenman88]

Finally I can stop having aneurysms when I see imsety pitch rainbow bridge

[@gamedominatorxennongdm7956]

Oh don't worry, we'll just use it to find that field spell we put there for consistency.

[@Endershock1678]

@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 Yeah, but nobody cares about the Horus endboard without Secret Village.

[@gamedominatorxennongdm7956]

@@Endershock1678 horus for the most part is just an engine to enable certain other decks.

[@MiyaoMeow588]

Secret Village was also seeing play in decks whose main gameplan involved getting out Dragoon. Which there are many of

[@randomglitch4322]

Dont worry max “c” is going to 4 next list

[@Malidala]

They are putting max C from 8 to 4? I thought it was going to 11.

[@kira-sama1]

You meant from 8 to 7

[@ace-trainer-aj]

No, next list will be 1 and then as an April Fool’s joke, back to 3

[@PallMeToYGO]

Nature's healing.

[@hazeljoy1]

Before banlist: I am Salad player After Banlist: I am Salad player with 1 less roach

[@jofx4051]

And more Mulcharmy😅

[@hazeljoy1]

@@jofx4051 not really in salad unless you are blind second build

[@mrharvy100]

“Just keep saying something until you are right and ignore the times it’s wrong. “ - Master Fu Xing

[@eu4um]

I was kinda hoping it would cut from the flashback to just 8 minutes of "I TOLD YOU. I TOLD YOU. Did I tell you? I TOLD YOU." over and over.

[@HardlegGaming]

2 is certainly better than 3... BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ZERO #BanMaxxC

[@heinzmonster]

Mr Leg woke up damn

[@georgeandrade2661]

I think it will be at one and will never be touched by the banlist again

[@undertaker8187]

if we make endboards breakable again instead of 8+ distruptions im all for banning maxx c but aslong we have boards that not been breakable w 6 cards we sadly need it, in a bo1 where coinflip allready is a huge factor. i hate w a pation combo decks that end up on way to many negates/ista removals like ip in sp. its for me personal a downturner and im on the edge of quitting md (actually since over a year but paleo saved it for me ) but losing coinflip and then watching a 30min unskipable movie to the bottomline that i cant play because everything get negated/removed is kind dumb and soley for that reason i respected maxx c. not because its so powerfull just for the fact it stiked fear in the eyes of a person that doing combo 1337 from spreadsheet 557. if maxx c gets to 0 and combo endboards dont get nerfed i can just say i never would be happier to hit uninstall

[@arrowofkira5658]

​@@undertaker8187 that's exactly what Josh was talking about and why the ocg and MD just couldn't ban maxx c yet, they know a lot of decks are too crazy and therefore they keep maxx c as a bandaid in the game. The main problem is that they don't seem to want to tune down the overall powerlevel of decks yet so outright banning maxx c will take a while. Maybe when ryzeal drops and games become more grindy instead of ftk simulator the maxx c ban will come.

[@undertaker8187]

@ tbh konami dont give a f... about balancing and on md we get the worst of both world banlist wise, they just care about to sell new meta. to get MD in a fair place they need to ban flameberge oss limit the heck out of decks like yubel (basicly all to 1) banning apo banning baron ect ect. this will not happens soon they proofed allready that we cant trust them. its discusting how ppl clapped as the banned oss in tcg but they all failed to realise, there is nothing to clap it was the whole time in konamis hand and they was let the tcg players suffer just to sell more and same thing in MD, we dont get the impactfull bans soon

[@dreadgear9683]

You know given how Konami loves to have 1 card "i win buttons" i do see a future where Maxx C is left at 1 akin to shifter or skill drain or other one sided cards.

[@justwatchinfunnyvids]

That's just Master duel they rarely like to ban cards unless they are a serious problem like if your opponent can play 2 cards and your entire 5 card hand is useless they know when things like this happen because they collect information on what cards were activated before someone scoops and they start reviewing duels when it happens repeatedly which can warrant a ban like when floodgates are too easy to use along with omni negates and indestructible monsters I'm surprised winda and the barrier statue chimera plays weren't hit too but I'm sure it's only a matter of time

[@hazeljoy1]

pls no, it was awful then tcg was like that

[@FrostReave]

@@justwatchinfunnyvids I can see why you would think that when we have some popular wild cards like Kitt and Verte and a ton of floodgates being at 1 but if you actually look at alot of the banned cards in especially pre POTE and line them up they actually have banned alot more cards and staples then the ones they left at 1. Its alot easier to remember things you see often recently then things you used to see but never again like Chaos Ruler the Magic Dragon

[@Sarcophilos]

maxx c will be banned soon

[@samifaride3245]

Maxx C at 1 is actually more toxic because do you really main 8 outs to a limited card or do you lose to a 1 of. Maxxc should be at 3 or 0 nothing in-between

[@baraakatsheh1547]

Honestly, this is an easy 10/10 list. The best one ever. Like there is no banlist ever that will tackle every problem in the game, but making so many impactful decisions and seeing all cards go in the right direction is rare and something we don't see everyday.

[@BigDaddyRich69]

No,shifter is still legal so it isnt a 10

[@riptrojans7237]

Buffing Branded was a weird choice since the deck was already the 2nd best right between Snake eyes fire king and Yubel. Nerf number 3 (Yubel deserved it) but buff number 2 (Branded did not need it) is weird. They're small changes but non-sensical nonetheless.

[@ggpt9641]

Compared to every other banlist ever in MD, by the game's banlist history and not a "no doubt ideal" banlist, this is a 10 alongside the banlists that axed Imperial Order, Rhongo IMO.

[@baraakatsheh1547]

@ Just because MDM says that Branded is the second best deck doesn't always mean that that is the truth. I think the deck is very beloved which makes it over-represented. The deck is not overpowered, it is healthy when it doesn't lock (competitive lists are not doing that) and has still big weaknesses. It is fine to bring its consistency up

[@admontblanc]

@@riptrojans7237 Branded might be on the roll for the next returnee deck, replacving Swordsoul. At least that's what some people are thinking because them suddenly getting all their cards unlimited again is strange considering it has kept being used at competitive levels even while nerfed.

[@imsoready1114]

The day they ban Maxx C is the day I return to master duel, this is a start at least

[@masterdon187]

Currently they have 6 more 'maxx c' in the game from what I've heard, so i don't think it'll get any better even if they ban it tbh

[@Djseemers]

@@masterdon187can’t really call them Maxx c when they’re only good going second. Also there’s a lot of ways to play around them so I don’t think they’re a bad thing in the current meta. And I don’t even play them personally lol

[@soup3583]

Mulcharmies are NOT Maxx "C", it's not even close. purulia doesn't even see play, and even Fuwalos is not necesseraly a maindeck include

[@heinzmonster]

​@@masterdon187 Fuwalos is much better, the worst part of maxx C was seeing your opponent set up a good board that you just MIGHT be able to beat and then they maxx C you in draw phase

[@Sarcophilos]

@@heinzmonsterI'm tired of losing in this situation

[@xBOBALUx]

If they can bring back branded let's bring back the lab furniture to 3 as well.

[@Jackinthebox1719]

They are so unnecessary on the banlist …

[@candlelit77]

Lab is honestly scary with furniture's at 3 with peformapal floodgate and transaction rollback being broken with random blowout traps and floodgate traps. But at the same time it's OK because those cards are usually bricks without furniture's idk

[@Jackinthebox1719]

@@candlelit77 the thing is, lab will propably play fuwalos now. Even before fuwalos you barely played discard-engines, because they brick often and if lab bricks, it loses. So even with all fuenitures lab would propably not play 6 cards, which are potentially dead with 3 fuwa and 3 rollback. Only thing it does, it lets you play your traps on turn 2 by going second, which is a good thing imo.

[@verycalmgamer4090]

branded was already good

[@smexykins3065]

BYSTIAL RUNICK IS BACK ON THE MENU BABY WOOOO LET'S GO SARONIR

[@z1u512]

The day maxx C gets forbidden is the day I return to master duel

[@DrRobGilles]

Sar is way bigger for branded than either aluber or opening. I know a lot of top level players who aren’t even that high on opening at 3 to begin with. And some people don’t even run 3 aluber. When this deck dies it’s usually because it dies to normal summon into imp’ed. Sar and opening both bigger deals. Especially together. Because now you get advance off of sar discard with both opening and high spirits. Plus Sar line with merc helps you extend past hand traps. And in general people way over exaggerate sanc. Going for a lock is so volatile and it leads to bad end boards. Especially with Ladd out now. Why go for a lock when you can put up 3 omnis with better end board overall. Also Sanc used to be the maxx C line. It’s not good enough anymore. Because sanc is a relatively weak tower that can be beat over and in order to survive your opponent has to severely misplay into an albaz. Most top branded players aren’t even playing sanc at all. Neither am I. And I don’t miss it. Imo sanc is a slightly above average card on its own merit. If it went away I don’t think anyone would miss it. It’s a decent tower that in Archtype can help you maximize albaz. But you have other ways to do that to. And some other utility with reviving old fusion summons like borrel etc. maybe steal another useful monster from opponent. But it’s always going to be best to just ban all the dark floodgate monsters who can be abused because that’s what’s abused. More people care about using sanctifier than ddd. Or any of the other cards. Who the heck is playing ddd or using gimmick puppet nightmare in gimmick puppet decks.

[@luminous3558]

Me and my 3 apos, 2 Savages and 1 Baronne waiting for the generic extra deck negate ban.

[@M.W.2]

He told you

[@MTC-G]

9:24 but do u know what else is MASSIVE?!

[@norn-sama3407]

I'm sad because there are still 3 purrely cards that you can't play at 3 and it really hurts the consistency of the deck, especially the main deck monster semilimits suck so much

[@LemonCookies]

my tearlaments purrely list helps a ton with consistancy.

[@Malidala]

I think most people are ok with Purrely being bad (and find it preferable.)

[@felipemendes5336]

Copium ​@@Malidala

[@knmrt2760]

Tbh purrely can stay gutted... Starring down at a towers while you opponent draws 50 and spins everything you have isn't the most riveting and engaging Yu-Gi-Oh gameplay out there...

[@lilpotayto]

@@knmrt2760 Day 1 Purrely was a nightmare but the meta has already moved on so much that I think it could easily at least have the maindeck monsters go back to three each.

[@ItzMajinTCG]

Secret spell seems like a preemptive hit for millennium

[@embDBA]

7/10 for banlist, +1 for every copy of roach that gets banned

[@ggpt9641]

Shoutouts to The Great Sea from LOZ: Wind Waker.

[@FrostReave]

So apparently an intern put some of these cards in the wrong category and there will be a correction ASAP. Namely MAXX C NOT BEING BANNED 3 MONTHS AGO.

[@dabbingtoast7743]

I can live with combo decks being strong as long as I don't have to worry about that f*cking roach being dropped on my forehead on top of your typical end board.

[@alexandergeorgiev74]

No more hiding in the village 😔 or limited summoning

[@fabianbeteta5795]

Finally.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@mladen777]

Thanks to amazing content Josh! I just have to disagree with the branded situation. Saying that Krystia and Vice King Requiem make Albion banworthy is to me similar to comparison between Maxx C and Fuwalos, because to set it up consistently, first you need to be a really good Branded player, and even then you cant just go for these cards always when the opponent could just tribute summon over them or send them for cost for droplet or something. These cards dont have lingering effects like Gimmik Puppet and allow outplay potentialy. You just cant say that the full branded board is harder to beat than Snake Eyes, Yubel or anything like that even with the "floodgaty" effect witch makes it even debatable should you even play that brick in the deck since it can be outed in so many ways. In some situations it is an FTK but every competitive deck has FTK boards and I think there are more problematic cards than Albion because of that.

[@Amitlu]

Meanwhile Circular is untouched on MD. Hoho!

[@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543]

The jars are free ya love to see it

[@bballhunter2988]

No C and better lists has always been the way to go.

[@grantplunkett8410]

The 90 UR dust from this banlist is gonna go right to the Fiendsmith fund

[@dragonmaster951753]

He told you!

[@anabstractworld]

Let's just hope the Mulcharmy's are actually a Maxx "C" replacement. I'm just not willing to point my finger at them and expect them to do this after the whole "MR4 WILL SLOW THE GAME DOWN" mentally that went on for 3.5 years which turned out to be nothing but people putting words into Konami's mouth.

[@admontblanc]

It did slow down the game a lot for strategies not using links and strategies that use weird fusion and synchro combos to get absurd end boards. SHS with all its current support unbanned and unlimited but with MR4 rules would not be able to reproduce the same toxic end boards.

[@anabstractworld]

@@admontblanc nothing about Spyral, Gouki, Gumblar for 6 or Firewall FTK was slow bro. it was literally Yugioh at it's worst

[@Tyron-u9c]

this wont stop us tenpai players

[@Toadflax6869]

Admitting to being a Tenpai player is not something to be proud of 😂

[@toadfan64]

I mean when people say every list it's gonna be hit, it's really no surprise when it finally is, lol.

[@caryymytank8300]

What YGO needs as a whole is 6 Fuwalos. Not hitting generic endboard pieces. Hitting generic endboards just makes the game more of the decks endboard rather than the engines.

[@Senshi00]

Remove all generic extra deck Omni negates from the game

[@jonathanguy9291]

Remove all generic 1 card link monsters And over lay xyz shouldnt be a thing either Ban super poly

[@jasonrodriguez3618]

This is probably the most balanced banlist since I started playing master duel. It’s the correct direction in a very long journey lol

[@phantomdragon420]

As a Dragon Link player I feel like Mulcharmy Fuwaross is perfect for me, a strong balanced hand-trap going 2nd & a winged beast for Romulus going 1st.

[@davideliasbauzadelgado1677]

Finally, max C is a mistake

[@dragospaul-andrei6264]

Assuming we get the Fiendschmiths in the next pack and we still have Beatrice, Yubel and Fire decks are gonna be insane.

[@jacobcoates7987]

You should have told us it was going to 0. The blood is on your hands.

[@ovelhadogelo]

What I will be playing next month is, for sure, Magikey Fiendsmith. If we happen to get them, I'll be stoked to give my favorite deck the Fiendsmith upgrade, but if we also happen to get Primite for some reason, then it'll be more than just complete! Out of 10, I would also give it a 7 or a 8, but I've always wondered if Maxx "C" going at 2 caused any sort of huge impact in the community. Although it's a minimal change, neglectable even, I can't take out of my mind the possibility of a video named "Maxx 'C' and the impact of it on OCG and Master Duel", as to study how huge it is to have one less copy of the most unfair card.

[@nvkvmoto808]

celestial being off means that prank-kids adventure dpe is viable lol

[@Matti0097]

Branded gets some unlimits and Floo's wings are still clipped. At least the deck stopped getting hit in the last couple of bankists.

[@Nic0zzz_]

I love floo but wind statue can't come back(sadly). But we deserve the actual floo engine to be unhit cause it doesn't deserve map to 1 at all. Also duality and extravagance deserve to be at 3 in my opinion

[@Matti0097]

@Nic0zzz_ barrier statue can stay banned, like you I just want more consistency.

[@riot121212]

Wow you are such a genius, surely only you would have thought of this

[@LittleMushroomGuy]

Branded bros we are eating good tonight!

[@jest5837]

I feel like cards like Nibiru and mulcharmy already keep combo decks in check so I don't think there's any justification for Maxx C to not be banned.

[@aajackson35]

If you can draw into them...

[@jest5837]

@aajackson35 same logic applies to literally anything you want to counter

[@aajackson35]

@@jest5837 So why the roach is an issue specifically? Rhetorical question btw. Since it's no different than any other hand trap that either deters or punishes players in any form.

[@jest5837]

@@aajackson35 pretty much because it's just too good in general which is why everyone uses it unlike the Mulcharmies which are good depending on the meta and if you're going 1st or 2nd. Other handtraps are a lot easier to handle than maxx c.

[@aajackson35]

@@jest5837 So isn't it the same as the roach? Given that there were formats when it wasn't required. Which in previous formats to now, special summoning is literally an all-time high.

[@zaraki9713]

To limit the impact of combo decks it should include more locks in the cards, like Branded which locks in Fusion, even Tenpai with certain cards which lock in dragon, Dogmatika disable the extra deck this turn, we need more balance this will limit the Apolousa/Ip/Barone board and other generic cancer cards.

[@Jackinthebox1719]

Or like DDD requiem and puppet nightmare locking you in fiend/ puppets … oh wait … but at least the fusion deck locks itself into FuSiOn. Branded is not a good example for locks bro …

[@jorykrause6189]

​@@Jackinthebox1719for real braindead players always doing crazy toxic shit

[@admontblanc]

@@Jackinthebox1719 actually it is, unless you would prefer staring down at the usual Branded end board + some synchro/xyz/link abomination making it actually unplayable for you.

[@LLawlighto]

i knew this day will come another reason i don't craft 3rd maxx c

[@talilover5979]

I was stoked to see the two floodgates get banned and any Yubel abuse is welcomed by me but yeah, all in all feels like scraps of what we need to see While Max C is hardly a “going second tool that mitigates combos” like people treat it instead of equally broken nonsense for either player the truth is a lot of the actual “going second cards” are absolutely absurd because they have to be to compete with the combos Konami has made yugioh all about. Like is a card like forbidden droplet that potentially negates an entire board, bypasses targeting protection, and can’t be responded by potentially any type of card not absolutely absurd? Or sphere mode that just says “no” to 3 of your opponents monsters? In a perfect world cards like this wouldn’t be necessary but it is what it is ig

[@admontblanc]

Sphere Mode seems kind of absurd, but not nearly as much, it's balanced by 2 things, the most obvious being that a board with less than 3 monsters leaves you with an absolutely useless brick in hand, hence why it is usually a strict side deck card. Two being that you sacrifice the ability to normal summon the turn you use Sphere mode, with normal summoned monsters usually having the best effects to advance a deck's strategy. The only reason Sphere Mode seems absurd is that protection or locking against tributing monsters is very rare, and tributing is not something you can stop by reacting with an effect, even when you're tributing as part of an effect because an effect that tributes as the effect instead of a cost is really rare and not good anyway.

[@Ltp1305]

6:55 Speaking of, watch they proceed to NOT ban any of the generic end board cards

[@timduke4616]

These ban list are F’ing jokes.

[@namelessanonymous2913]

After they bann c, I hope they'd begin to crack down on other handtraps too. "turn 1 player drops handtraps on you after they full combo" applies to WAY more than just the roach.

[@verbalengine95]

If they ever put Maxx c to 1 that means you literally can't open Maxx c and crossout your opponent's Maxx c

[@muhammeddiab723]

Great video. For a beginner like me who has been playing for 2months or so, the explaination of the state of the game is clear. My question is is Ritual Beast still a viable deck to play in ranked going forward?

[@Jackinthebox1719]

Its a really good deck as long as people dont play to many mulcharmys. Its propably the only deck which is Ass into all three

[@Omega_2651]

It's softmeta. U can reach Master 1 rank with them but it Will take slightly more effort than playing meta

[@giannispapakrivopoulos5455]

As a person whose majority of games in Master Duel are with Branded here are my comments that no one asked for: 1) Right now most people do not even use Sanctifire to lock. Some people play him as their way to "beat" Maxx C and even then you need to play The Golden Swordsoul to make him impactful enough on its own. I understand that getting sacked by a floodgate strategy on ladder feels awful though, therefore I agree he should get banned. 2) Buffs for my pet deck are always nice. Still, no idea why buff branded out of all things, there are decks much weaker than branded that could use some unlimits, people are getting top 100 and top10 spots in the DC with the deck. 3) Hitting Maxx C is awesome. Fuwa and Purulia are very well designed cards and they work against degen combo decks the best whereas maxx c works against everything.

[@armandonoriega681]

How is sending The Golden Swordsoul better than Quem as fusion material for Sanctifire? I usually send Albaz and Quem, so I could reborn Quem to send retribution for follow up, and Quem effect to reborn Albaz to fuse into Mirrorjade if my opponent summons from the extra deck. It feels like Quem gives enough Value for the Sanctifire play against Maxx C.

[@pirateFinn]

It's why I actually like the mulcharmies, they're good going second cards this game needs which assists against board building by their opponent. I do agree that the combo/grind potential should be hit though for a slower game where turns are shorter due to less combo and there's more turns between each other. Keep it interactive, just a lil slower😂

[@silv3r7ongue97]

Okay sweet I may be back to md soon

[@ducky36F]

1:10 someone needs to clip Josh saying “cards that you just activate and don’t let your opponent properly play yugioh, I’m a big fan of these cards” 😂

[@MacysShopLifter]

You’re smiling?! Max C got limited to 2 and you’re smiling?!?!?!

[@MomirViggwilv]

I only ever crafted 1 Maxx C when MD first released, because I was always coping out of my ass that SURELY it would be banned one day. The people who run the game MUST know how toxic of a card it is, right? Well, today I'm vindicated. Can't wait for it to go to 1 in a 2027 banlist.

[@lucasalarcon3230]

Very likely that it goes to 1 in the next OCG banlist so MD will do the same there is even a chance that they doing first on MD

[@LemonCookies]

why would you not just craft all 3? when a card gets banned or limited you can dust it for the full amount. so if you had 3. you can now dust 1 for 30cp.

[@tweekin7out]

but doing that didn't benefit you; you get the full dust back when you dismantle a banned card.

[@TimothyGod]

Wasn't that not the case early on? So maybe he was being careful ​@@LemonCookies

[@patrickhsiao2138]

Platinum mentality

[@isaiahjack3140]

I’m sticking to my ritual beasts thanks

[@Marco7873908727]

What if... We had 2 deck options for ranked that are built for going 1st or 2nd and we get to choose after the coin toss

[@undertaker8187]

would be awesome pssst md allready got a event that did this over a year ago but they never folled threw.

[@nicoofthenight8403]

Celestial 😂 Brudda was wrongfully accused

[@TURBO1000YuGiOh]

Banlist of the year!!! 9/9 --> 8/8

[@justwatchinfunnyvids]

They wont get rid of maxx c master duel is just ocg in a parallel universe

[@Raxin5]

This is a runick buff

[@lmr4403]

Most branded players don't play any locks anymore. Past few weeks it was played a lot in tournaments, none of those builds had any locks. (ddd requiem king is not played atm due to how the lock is badly positioned in this meta)

[@darkmagician1212]

I was only playing village in my pendulum deck as a counter to Maxx C. If I see less of the bug, I'll start to actually play the game.

[@crisscore157]

Deal: Bann sanctifier and give us branded fusion to 2 or 3

[@dotv2359]

Still gonna be playing Trickstar since we now have Lightstage and Reincarnation at 3 and the new support. I'll probably pivot once we get the cards in paper. Admittedly, a Maxx C hit hurts(?) the deck.

[@bp-1862]

I was really hoping for the saronir unlimit as it just randomly hurt my bystial/synchro branded list that of course has no reason to be hit and I don't think any other decks really cared about playing 3 saronir.

[@brankoaime]

I hope this banlist comes with fiendsmith, because Im really eager to try that decks and the brews you can do with it (Im an MD only player)

[@GlennElliottKeller]

WOW MAXX C TO 2 THAT REALLY HELPS THE POWER CREEP THANKS KONAMI

[@freakydeaky1435]

I think people have missed the way to use purulia and fuwalos though... just have a deck of ONLY handtraps + the minimum requirements to summon a boss, e.g Dragoon.

[@shawnjavery]

The problem with that is that people can just pass turn and if you can't set up your limited line, which is going to be hard, you just lose the long game.

[@admontblanc]

You mean... JUST PLAY INVOKED OR SUBTERROR BRO!

[@minhsangle9210]

we have 5 format: TCG, OCG, China OCG, Master duel, Asia English and Maxx c only banned in 1 format, if maxx c banned it just TCG format

[@admontblanc]

You forgot 2 formats, Brazil is TCG but the card releases aren't scheduled the same way as Europe and NA because Brazil still publishes YGO through a national company that was part of WotC. And Korea OCG that basically operates like Brazil, idk if for the same reasons but probably yes, except it uses the OCG banlist.

[@eisbaer5011]

Fewer maxx c is good. I still rather have it against me than an endboard of blazar dragon, baronne and 2 other 3500ATK synchros + backrow against me. That duel made me cry a bit

[@SukMaBaLLsS]

Sanctifire getting banned would suck… I just crafted him so it’d feel like a waste :(

[@FlannOff]

Maxx C eclipsed the fact Branded is the best deck now

[@baraakatsheh1547]

Yubel and SEFR are still better tbh

[@ccjl9160]

@@FlannOff branded doesn't like being the best deck though. It has very clear counters

[@kira-sama1]

as a branded player it's not. snake eyes fire king is too damn powerful and while both decks are tier 1 currently i still think that SEFK is the best deck in the game

[@kira-sama1]

@@baraakatsheh1547 def not yubel and def SEFK

[@FlannOff]

@baraakatsheh1547 I don't think better is the right word, more like stronger against Branded due to the amount of handtraps they're able to run and endboard they make, even thought with 3 Saronir we got a massive buff on the Yubel matchup, Fire King is still tricky going second but everything else is real free estate for Branded until Fiendsmith drops

[@Arakamira]

Maxx c is no longer necessary because the mulcharmies do it in a more healthy way

[@glrbrasil]

Thank god some floodgate bans, keep them coming 😭

[@Camelotsmoon]

The floodgates hits are a bonus for me on this list, the real treat is seeing Maxx c finally getting hit. Too all those out there who said "You're just coping thinking they're going to hit Maxx c.", this one is for you. Also, I agree with the thing Josh said about hitting generic end board pieces... Again, I think the TCG is ahead on this point; they should definitely hit baronne, Appolousa, ect; I think IP and SP are probably fine, they're just quality cards, not something that act like a pseudo floodgate or invalidate other hand traps.

[@zurealsatilste5435]

Not enough, make it 0

[@crixx007]

As a branded player I do of course love the list. I don't even play sanctifire anymore and I think most branded players don't play the the lock anymore. With ladd being out locking your opponent really isn't that good anymore so I would actually like sanctifire to be banned cus it's a pretty toxic card and thing you can unfortunately summon with verte ofc (I have seen chimera play vice King + sanctifire with verte which is very annoying)

[@Grayewicked]

Now, what would be better is if Maxx "C" and Mulcharmies to all get banned.

[@Vicmagician]

I'm going to play branded, but im not gonna lock anybody, Im going to play a ladd or dragoon build

[@amumuyordle6531]

You are right that combo decks need to be kept in check. Go ahead and ban maxx c, but nerf decks to the point that they cannot set up a powerful endboard of omninegates and yet have too much follow up for next turn. Remember the good old days of swordsoul? They had baron chixiao and protos endboard which was quite powerful but if you managed to deal with that, they run out of followup quite easily because swordsoul doesn't really have ways to recycle cards. Sure they can draw another mo'ye or taia but the followup turn will be much weaker than the first turn. Decks that can put out omninegates should not be able to recycle multiple resources from the grave. Snake eye has incredible graveyard recursion, but at least they have to wait a turn to use the second effect of original sinful, wanted, etc and generally do not end on omni negates. Just nerf fire king a little bit. Yubel has an omninegate but they can only recycle yubel cards and run out of followup quite easily. No need to nerf Yubel Spright is a fair deck because although it can put out multiple negates, the way they recycle cards is through spright elf which can be negated and requires 2 bodies. Spright can run out of resources quite easily. On the other hand, decks like Chimera, White forest, Centurion need to be nerfed much more because they have too much followup. Chimera can recycle chimera fusion on their turn, white forest can recycle the synchro monsters back to the extra deck, centurion phalanx can recycle on your turn. These decks will never run out of resources. It becomes unfair to play against these decks going second because even if you deal with the board, they will have an equally powerful second turn. The game should not be decided by a coin flip. Get rid of Gimmick Puppet and Mathmech too and maybe put big welcome to 2. The game is fked now.

[@FA-nd9uk]

Limit special summoning.

[@mixmangaming7909]

I think Fiendsmith is coming so they hit Yubel and Tenpai

[@PPPPPPPP270]

With how some banlist are made usually it shows a sign of what’s coming next month. Very like Lee get exodia cards. I don’t think fiendsmith is coming. A hint of it coming would be a Beatrice ban and maybe apollousa.

[@NihlusLB]

I'm betting they let Beatrice rock for a bit with Fiendsmith so they can sell more packs before banning it shortly after.

[@m7md_mns923]

wdym "i told you🤓" it was so predictable

[@crackthecorn]

i mean ppl only stopped playing DPE when tear took over the game

[@admontblanc]

The ban to Celestial also palyed a part though, because it became less rewarding to play D-Hero bricks that do nothing for you just to get DPE on your board, and this is easily verifiable in MDM where you can see that DPE has been since relegated to its own deck instead of being played in many decks that only packed the fusion card, the better D-Heroes to send, like Celestial, and maybe Verte.

[@mobi2289]

Maxx c needs to be 0, not 2. Also, there are a ton of other cards they need to ban if they are going after floodgates. Summon limit was one of the least common floodgates I have seen. Dimension shifter, dimensional fissure, and necro valley are all played way more than summon limit in my experience.

[@armandonoriega681]

The summon limit feels more like a Voiceless Voice hit, which is a meta relevant deck, while the other cards that you mention see more play in Stun than in meta decks

[@admontblanc]

It will be back at 3 in a year or before.

[@adamakii]

why are further tenpai hits necessary? i watched one of your streams a couple days ago and you ran into tenpai maybe once or twice within four hours of playing. i dont understand this mentality of wanting going second to be less shitty but also never accepting a loss against a go second deck. you cant have your cake and eat it too.

[@TrueChaoSclx]

What is the point of semi-limited? Just limit it.