I Tried the New Dungeon in The War Within..

[@teej143]

I agree with your take on Classic vs Modern Wow. I’m happy that the option to play classic era with new flavors like SoD is available for.anyone who enjoys that version, and I’m equally happy that TWW seems like a huge step up for the modern WoW gamers. Play what you want to play. Play neither or play both! Have fun!

[@adamtajhassam9188]

Still kinda upset about how they made it wa too complex overall though i prefer modern wow and still did not give a option to fly like normals w out vigor shitz

[@teej143]

@@adamtajhassam9188 umm.. you still can use the old tbc-flying.. you can toggle between the two at any time

[@Fleshtotem]

​@adamtajhassam9188 you can choose old flight if you want, although it appears to be gated behind a pathfinder achieve again in the new zones

[@Tallestdwarf]

@@adamtajhassam9188 the normal flying option is there.

[@AkiRa22084]

@@adamtajhassam9188 Why do you dislike dynamic flight? Genuine question. I can't wait for Northrend Cup and I got Gold on all previous ones, so I'm confused when I see people dislike the most fun part of the game.

[@TheNitram8]

Can we not turn this into a classic vs retail war? You have choice now just play what you enjoy instead of fighting an imaginary war

[@Mio-sz2pu]

yeah i really don't get where all these "classic vs retail" people came from, ig for better and for worse a lot of the audience has shifted from mostly PvP players.

[@Balloonbot]

I think we ALL know which version is better though...

[@samuelbanks8499]

Anyone who stans for classic or retail alone is a moron. Classic has some fun RPG style stuff and an interesting community but is riddled with uneeded flaws that could easily be fixed. Retail has a really interesting system for things like talents, pvp, ect, amazing visuals and a lot of content untapped there is to enjoy. We should be hoping to the two get closer in strides to make a complete leveling-> endgame experience, not malding on the internet over WoW. In my personal opinion I think classic can be kind of mind numbingly slow; sod double xp and raiding for xp/loot improved it a lot, but even then some things need more development. Meanwhile, in retail I think really it just needs to let players have those RPG elements, and excuses for people to interact

[@Tallestdwarf]

The biggest flaw in retail for me is that gear is forgettable and the world doesn't matter. Other than that it's great. I'm currently playing SoD, which is just raidlogging after you hit level cap essentially.

[@jones7831]

Ok so does the world matter in SoD when you only raidlog that nobody cares about once a week? While retail has world quests a new flying system that makes everyone soar around the world and interesting world bosses. ​@@Tallestdwarf

[@gregjross852]

Both Blizzard games both are fun people are wild for comparing a 20 year old game with its modern version. Lol

[@Tallestdwarf]

@@jones7831 The world in SoD matters a lot more than in Retail. You go to multiple zones on multiple continents for current content. Instead of just "whatever the newest zone is" in retail content. The gameplay of retail feels better. I play both, I like both. They're just different. Also, I'd avoid trying to use world quests and flying as a positive for retail.

[@WoWDad13]

How are you doing so much damage quickly? This build usually is only good in high keys where mobs take a long time to die and you ramp up with high ignite damage.

[@Coldkill2001]

Dornogal looks like an overwatch map

[@huntrayisabeast16]

i dont even play OW and agree xD

[@drewblock1365]

Omg the music in the dungeon is from warcraft 2

[@Gooselip]

Alpha..

[@drewblock1365]

@@Gooselip I meant it in a good way though. I hope this is the music

[@Mortiferous89]

What? no its not. Its the login music and then continues onto the rest of the wow ost.

[@drewblock1365]

@Mortiferous89 I went back to rewatch and noticed the song I was talking about only occurs at the end. I think they used the song I'm talking about in bfa but I didn't play bfa so that's where the confusion is from

[@rasalas91]

there was no music, he turned on his own music when they were freeing the birds (right before I think)

[@lordyasha5944]

Super helpfull feedback that one dude: "i died to a unkown bug". aa now we wait to get it fixed 😂

[@ThatOneDude695]

Classic Andy’s seething as usual

[@jamesg9468]

You seem upset. What are Classic players "seething" about? Life for Classic players is pretty good right now, they have SoD, HC, Era and Cata coming up.

[@blownmoon]

@@jamesg9468 Nobody's upset lol, just read the comments and see the seething Classic Andys everywhere. Instead of playing classic they're crying about retail, a game they don't even play.

[@ВасилийПетров-ы8й]

Arachnophobia mode: replace all creatures with spiders!

[@playablecharacter3871]

I wanna be optimistic but this looks like more of what I quit playing a few times already

[@oXoInterventionoXo]

I mean it is. It's retail lol

[@thenorthmen3148]

Lmao this is exactly it.

[@aion6151]

You said a whole lot of nothing there.

[@hegelianfrog]

That’s an interesting way of saying you’re kinda slow

[@kevinvegerud205]

U have classic if u want that Kinda gameplay!

[@TheGamedMind]

*clearly gets knock backed out of the arena where its instadeath *says its not his fault, reports it as a bug KEKW

[@kisyaDD]

if you actually paid attention you can see he closes the report instead of submitting it

[@TheMorninGlory23]

Something about retail just turns me off, dunno what it is, but classic just feels better somehow. I hope SoD leads into legit classic+

[@J2911L]

How does this look boring when your SoD rotation consists of pressing the same 2 buttons over and over.

[@jamesg9468]

I can't imagine how dull it must be playing a healer on Retail. Did anybody ever drop below 80% health? Besides Xar's bugged deaths.

[@rookere1604]

hahah this is the first leveling dungeon little classic kiddo, lets see you come try heal a +20 mythic dungeon or 2400+ arena, not that you could ever get even close to either of these though lmao

[@YeIsCorrect]

@@rookere1604 we all got waxxed by our first cata dungeons when it dropped.

[@rookere1604]

@@YeIsCorrectit's not 2010 little lad, leveling takes a couple hours now, then we have FAR more difficult infinitely scaling end game dungeons

[@YeIsCorrect]

@@rookere1604 the contrast is just funny, you're talking about getting to 20+ in mythics and 2.4k in arena for a real challenge on retail when normal cata dungeons put all of us in the dirt when they dropped.

[@rookere1604]

@YeIsCorrect in no world were they anywhere close to 25 mythic keys lmao, nice try, it wax also 15 Years ago. watch how much easier cata will be when classic launches

[@Momo212]

you have got to be the strongest shad i have ever seen

[@patmacrotch5611]

Is it open beta or closed?

[@gregjross852]

I think it’s closed unless you buy the preorder for the next xpac and or are a streamer

[@Mortiferous89]

Its currently in closed alpha. Only those with friends and family invites or influencers will have access for now

[@step_down-w2b]

they are using 70-80 areas for dungeon zones again

[@talesoftOfuSisig]

im so confuse how come others have TWW already or MOP Remix and some dont ? i dont see that option etc. im new to the game and its just confusing 🤣

[@jones7831]

MoP remix is only in testing phase kinda like beta at the moment on the public test client. It will not release until next month i think. And the battleroyale i think is gone now if not you press the logo in character selection screen to the top left.

[@talesoftOfuSisig]

i see thanks !! so TWW is out if u have bought the prepurchase thingy? or is it out out?

[@jones7831]

@@talesoftOfuSisig TWW is only in alpha phase right now, so basicly "friends and family" of blizzard get to test it right now. If you pre purchase i think you might get access to the beta once it comes out. But right now it's only alpha and not many people have access to it. :)

[@talesoftOfuSisig]

@@jones7831 thankyou jones for shedding light to a noob

[@jones7831]

@@talesoftOfuSisig No worries, welcome to the game coming from a wow veteran! :)

[@johntea3278]

hyperthermia at the end of your combust ...

[@Lovetoskate]

Swear the style in general is more like zelda than original wow now xD minus all the systems ect just the world feel, if that makes sense

[@gregjross852]

Original WoW is 20 years old so yeah it’s changed lol. Updated graphics on the same engine they can only do so much. Just like GW2 running on the same engine as Guild wars. It does look a lot more like Zelda but nothing they can really do about that until they make WoW2 on a different engine.

[@trevorvanderwal3864]

maybe im getting old but I didnt see one thing in this video that looked new or exciting to play

[@Theo42600]

a caster is not supposed to cast ?

[@gregjross852]

What do you think he’s doing 😂 casting a spell doesn’t require a casting time like you obviously think it does. Do you see a casting bar for Gandalf show up anytime he casts a spell in LOTR? Lol

[@Dad_rizz]

Just watching this game play, I didnt see anything really different from dragonflight. Looks like the same expansion.

[@McProski]

I mean DF is the best expansion WoW has had in awhile, kinda goes without saying they're gonna keep the same formula.

[@CRWeaventure]

Yea DF is amazing, no need to change much

[@Tallestdwarf]

Hero talents are sick. Delves are new content. Story progression. blah blah blah

[@evildarkeevildark5943]

ye i feel like when im watching this is like this is a new df dlc xD?... idk i hated df i dont think i will love this one and to see this billions of hp and dmg.. uff boi

[@lafunk1978]

This is only an expansion... Not a new game... What are you expecting???

[@GeorgePickens-q7o]

How is it looks like I would suck at it

[@ramonlarson6806]

Im pretty excited for ww

[@RaduP3]

can you do a rogue in HC on classic? i loved your hc videos the most. whats now ? wotlk ?

[@SaltyRain1]

Kinda late for HC content

[@joshring9710]

That completely empty professions tab was awful i wish i could unsee it..

[@PS-cq8qr]

What about snakephobia mode? Or fish phobia mode? All of these are real phobias! I don't think they've pandered enough to mental illness for me to play this. Why is there is so much violence in the game? They should worry about people who like to hurt others and make abilities throw pillows instead and change the name to World of Pillowcraft.

[@TreesPlease42]

Accommodating people with arachnophobia is a good thing! It's similar to subtitles or colorblind options.

[@SaltyRain1]

Yea, and people from my guild just said that now “wow is for pussies” and people are too soft I didn’t want to start this long conversation that it’s just called accessibility 🗿

[@lukabozic5]

Classic Andies saying this game is shit but they spend their free time clearing bosses spamming 1 the entire time

[@gregjross852]

I love both versions of the game but it’s wild to me how they can say this looks boring when they’ve been clearing the same content with there same 3 button rotation the entire time. Lol

[@adamk3993]

looks fun :)

[@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman]

I don't like classic, so... I don't care about it. 😅 Can't everyone do the same with classic or retail ? 😅

[@betahumanx]

Idk why but this expansion seems like BfA

[@hugolobo4740]

How is this any different from dragonflight?

[@Babachaw]

I am confused. Was Dragonflight your first expansion by chance? This just looks like your standard WoW expansion stuff. Or what do you mean in specific?

[@scurrx]

@@Babachaw that guy is just waffling lol basically saying retail bad

[@09jorgewords09]

Seeing classic people complain about "same mechanics, same setup of skills, nothing new or innovating". Funny saying that from the guys that cry if they have to do anything other than a "111111..." Rotstion as mage, having the same pack of mobs doing only autoattacks 90% of the time, bosses being the same just with 1 mechanic making the difference and funny enough that one mechanic is the only mechanic of the boss for almost most of classic dungeon and raid bosses. People with heavy mental problems, complain about stuff that is found in the version they love but are so blind and delusional to accept it.

[@WadeColwill]

Not a fan of seeing massive 90k damage per hit. What does that even mean?

[@bubblelover714]

90k...that's what it means...

[@gregjross852]

That your hitting the mob for 90k it’s not rocket science

[@lordyasha5944]

​​@@bubblelover714 from my perspective having those exhagerated numbers its a bit dumb and makes harder to calculate enemies strenght since you do 500k dmg and the enemies have like 5 billion hp. Its just easier to do lower numbers, on souls games you only have like 1800hp and doing 1000dmg on a single combo is a LOT

[@DrumAndSpaces]

Classic kill a pack or two take a flight kill copy pasted boss run to a pack or two repeat until you have no braincells left 😊

[@qu3nt]

lol retail mage is zoomerized, proc after proc after proc pew pew flash proc

[@Diopside.]

game is zoomerized since Legion so.

[@bryanc6142]

yea zoomerized...lol as opposed to. 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

[@BlijfEric]

​@@bryanc6142😂😂😂 damn, I'm dead 😂

[@andrecardoso6941]

@@bryanc6142that’s actually on point 😂😂

[@godofironiv2855]

Yeah classic mage with a one button autoclicker is much more fun. Imagine having to interact with the game and reacting to things!

[@miikkamansnerus5403]

People complain this doesnt look like a new game compared to DF 😂 its an EXPANSiON! Does tbc game play look much different from vanilla? Its not supposed to be a new game….

[@gregjross852]

It’s literally the SAME GAME. 😂😂😂 most of these people are also classic Andy’s and have been playing the same game for 20 years so take it with a grain of salt lol

[@JohmyFarel]

Wouldn't it be cool if they had disabled dungeon finder until you either complete the dungeon, by gathering a group and manually walking and doing the dungeon, or by finishing the main campaign first? I think that would make the open world more fascinating at the early stages of the expansion.

[@gregjross852]

This ain’t a bad idea at all

[@Enchiridion1891]

this looks pretty boring so far ngl

[@shifttyyt8477]

Glad I haven't went back to WoW they keep making it worse

[@Shadowxjen]

Dude dies, reports it as bug, even if it is not.

[@kisyaDD]

rewatch pup

[@Shadowxjen]

It's not uncommon to die if you get kicked out of bounds of a bossfightarena, which he was. Not necessary a bug. The one on the mount indeed was. Test groups are generally chill.

[@rookere1604]

honestly retail is far too hard for you classic kiddies in the comments to achieve anything anyway, I wouldn't even bother if I was you, you will never reach even 1800 in pvp or kill a heroic boss, let alone a mythic one

[@MolgeraIsTheBoss]

just say you're a virgin, you don't need to speak in riddles.

[@rookere1604]

@@MolgeraIsTheBoss your brain is too small to comprehend a simple sentence? it's a riddle to you? that's not good lad

[@jamesg9468]

I'm sure your family are proud of your Mythic and Arena ratings. Why don't you work on your BMI rating instead.

[@rossstars4518]

You know what retail looks like , The Flinstones cartoon show lol , what a mess

[@desensitized]

I dont quite understand the comparison, could you explain?

[@09jorgewords09]

You know what classic looks like? Like watching a rock change chape by itself.

[@jimlarsson1696]

"i died at the start of the fight, it wasnt my fault"

[@kisyaDD]

can’t take a joke, click the X top right snowflake

[@panic0077]

Going from dragonfligt to another expansion with same setup of skills. And same boring mechanics that most get tired of within three weeks. Same shit different story

[@andrecardoso6941]

That’s not true at all. You have so many different build and play styles to explore.

[@CRWeaventure]

Says the classic Andy, who probably loves playing with the same skills for years 😂 cmon bruh

[@joeykusters501]

The whole dragon flying is pissing me off, worst thing ever

[@Fleshtotem]

​@joeykusters501 luckily you can just choose normal flight

[@Tallestdwarf]

Hero talents are really awesome. Every expansion is the same. Maybe this game just isnt for you anymore

[@jigglydududu6593]

Shame the game still has spells from shitty conduits it ruined the game

[@miikkamansnerus5403]

I just leveled a mage in sod and was hyped af. Then i got to ST and holyshit was that boring… i was doing 16% of our enha shamans dps and just maintaining scorchs debuff every 30 seconds and spamming one button😂 i LITERaLLY fell asleep during the raid and i just had to quit the game… retail is just so much better game sod is a good middle group for people who arent that good in games overall. I mean its just WAY too slow and easy for anyone who is not old or stoned

[@gregjross852]

P3 of Sod Sucks and anyone who thinks otherwise is coping. Incursions/Wild offering farms have made the game feel so un-alive you just run in a loop endlessly for hours.

[@ebossnz6838]

This just lets me know that i made th right choice in quiting all those yaars ago. The game looks so boring

[@javierkiman8302]

Most of the game makes less sensibility. What I mean is its not awesome or smart or finalized. I know the implementation of this and that for being here than there and doing abilities and going to the next place. Just doing more of doing the exact scenario is done for many games. But, its not great content for me. For watching such stuff. Its annoying and badly created. Dynasty Warriors does much better. I love Runescape much more though. Because, its better mmorpg and game for the skills it has and what makes more sense of the words for runes and tablets and other things.

[@MB-vk8cv]

100% trash

[@Aysentaro]

this is just Shadowlands reskin

[@step_down-w2b]

yes they have gone all in with reusing assets. also, ever since Ion joined, almost all dungeons are reusing zones from leveling areas.

[@GIGACHADChadsmongold]

retail is trash

[@PringlesCan-y7m]

looks like another dead expansion.

[@dmasiodnmiod]

Arachnophobia mode? haha wtf can Blizzard get any worse

[@GeorgePickens-q7o]

Omg this looks nothing like wow I useto play I stopped after cata

[@quetz6335]

Doesn't look like its worth the money, basically the same game nothing really new or innovating.

[@brettvandermeer5297]

The fuck it's been the same game for 20 years bro

[@lookherelooklisten3078]

This game is awful

[@Raziel38]

Why would you watch a video about a game you dont like?

[@lookherelooklisten3078]

@@Raziel38 to check if retail was better or looked fun to play.. and nop still trash????

[@andrecardoso6941]

@@lookherelooklisten3078what is fun to play for you? Pressing one ability? Just cause you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s trash.

[@androyakorsik3292]

You are awful, Murray.

[@androyakorsik3292]

@@lookherelooklisten3078 joker asked

[@chc2650]

I feel like when im playing retail, my button presses are so...unimpactful. Like im pressing buttons and nothing is really happening. Typing words into a youtube comment feels more impactful.

[@andrecardoso6941]

That means that you don’t know what’s happening lol

[@cd2194]

yea maybe go loookup a wowhead guide!!

[@09jorgewords09]

Isn't that the same for classic and any other game? Don't really feel my thousand shadowbolt be that impactful

[@Orgrimmar21]

@@09jorgewords09 lol when you crit in Classic it's fuckin big. When you crit in Retail you barely even notice :p

[@09jorgewords09]

@@Orgrimmar21 I would agree with you, but I'm falling asleep with my 1111 rotation in classic

[@Francis3acon]

kinda insane how bad wow become.

[@ryanlayton5619]

Classic WOW player has a hard time with mechanics?

[@EmilJ1998]

man xaryu became the biggest sell-out on twitch such a shame guy only plays what gives veiwers now

[@teej143]

lol what’s this bitching all about like he owes you anything

[@EmilJ1998]

@@teej143 why u so satisfied living a discount life eating discount food watching discount tv with ur discount friends im not gonna accept that discount crap

[@itsnotlegacy]

@@EmilJ1998 you havin a bad day my guy

[@teej143]

@@EmilJ1998 what a sad person.. you probably though what you said there was clever and funny, and that you owned me or something. grats to you my guy.

[@EmilJ1998]

u guys see me as whining i see myself as a missunderstood hero

[@bigup6641]

LAME