I tore my TFCC styloid in my mouse hand 2 years ago from playing too much, still have to play on a controller and use compression gloves do NOT overuse it if it's in pain. You may need to take a few days or maybe even weeks off to make sure you don't do permanent damage depending on if its inflamed or starting to tear. Fair warning to anyone who reads this, you're not invincible.
@Sc0nv0y2 ай бұрын
I had to switch to RF this league because bow build hurt my wrists and hands
@daedalus64332 ай бұрын
And this is why you need to let your arms not be stretched too much when sitting at a desk with a keyboard
@asdasdfaf78272 ай бұрын
Don't forget it's poes fault though too much ground loot. 😂
@select.online2 ай бұрын
I had carpel tunnel syndrome, “had” - something that really had a positive impact was changing my main skill to “Q” instead of clicking the mouse, now it feels super natural and more fun
@snowii55612 ай бұрын
i know what you mean im perma wearing wrist braces when i play poe
@netneo40382 ай бұрын
Man this only further seems to highlight my incompetence, you're able to go from a disastrous start into 70 divines profit in the time played that I take to get single digit divines. The worst part is that I am a veteran player, and I know what I should be doing but I just somehow do something incredibly wrong. Probably spending too much time in the map, or not filtering out enough items etc etc. But this once again reinforces the fact that I need to get my shit together! Thanks for the content though! Take care of your wrists, hand related injuries are no joke.
@StaticOrgy2 ай бұрын
Focus on an end game mechanic, what you enjoy. Use scarabs and farm in maps that you clear fast, does not have to be t16
@YunalaiEmpress2 ай бұрын
Could you describe what you are farming and how you are doing it? For Example its super important that you support your current Strategy with scarabs. I know that a lot of newer players dont use scarabs, which leads to way way slower wealth increase. Also prep Maps to run, it Helps to Not have to roll each map after you completed your last map. Put 40 or so in a tab use a regex and roll them in bulk. Last you probably have more Money in your stash than you know, check bulk prices of bubble gum currencies like essences or Other stuff. Maybe this Helps a bit
@sebyt82 ай бұрын
poor efficiency is the reason a lot of people dont make a lot of divines
@netneo40382 ай бұрын
@@YunalaiEmpress You are correct in the scarab department, I am currently not using any when I probably should. So I'm doing 2 separate farms, the primary one is alva+blight on toxic sewers. Temples I find are generally decently reliable (if the game doesn't rng screw you by not giving you corruption t3). And blight on toxic sewers seems to give me a good amount of general drops (although the oils and blighted maps so far have been a little unlucky). As mentioned I haven't used any scarabs with these, the blight scarabs seem both very expensive and probably will make me fail the encounter. The alva scarabs seem to generally be for having more mobs in the encounter, rather than for building the temple, and the one that drops extra itemised temples with randomized room tiers is probably one I should use when I do get a corruption chamber on the map though. The second strategy is because the connected map for when I run out of toxic sewers (I hate trading for maps) is expedition+betrayal on underground sea. This one has just been very unlucky, I haven't dropped a single logbook in over 20 maps, which is definitely just really bad luck as usually expedition drops me one every other map or so. It happens. Same goes with betrayal, I'm 7 catarina fights in and haven't gotten a veiled orb. Once again I haven't used any scarabs, which is definitely a mistake I should at the very least be using the 'more runic monsters' one for expedition. In general I seem a little hesitant in investing currency in scarabs in the fear that I either fail the encounter or just don't get my investment back because the price is based around some optimal strategy and in t17s. Which is probably an unfounded fear. Also map rolling in bulk is definitely something I should do, and will start doing now, I keep thinking "it doesn't matter that much" but it does, it adds up the amount of time I'm looking at my map and the mods and if I can run it or not. Thanks for the comment!
@netneo40382 ай бұрын
@@sebyt8 yeah I assume that is a large reason for me. I take way too long in maps, I'm sure I take over 10 minutes per map. And spend too much time outside of my map. If I take 3 times longer than most people in maps, then 9 hours grinding for me is 3 hours for someone else. I really need to stop full clearing, I just somehow automatically revert to doing so once I shut my brain off. Because it's not that I can't make currency, it's just that I'm way slower.
@eepopgames27412 ай бұрын
As a fellow old man, I can't recommend highly enough a USB foot pedal. The one I got has 3 pedals which I map to left click, right click, and spacebar ( my movement skill). This frees up just using the mouse to point and has greatly reduced/eliminated the hand pain.
@Pharmacopium2 ай бұрын
Easy with the old man speak, old man
@trentcofaxmtg75012 ай бұрын
I'm gonna have to look into that. Am also an old man😂
@Aokimarcel2 ай бұрын
For the main skill, do you ever get tired on your feet?
@fofolacosa1232 ай бұрын
Holy shit you gave me an excellent idea. Not old yet but I'm like 14 hs+ on the PC, so anything that takes effort off the wrist is great. Thank you for the insight
@Skkra2 ай бұрын
@@Aokimarcel I had shoulder surgery at the start of last league and tried foot pedals, since for 4 weeks I couldnt use my left/keyboard arm. Ultimately what I did was make the most use of my right/mouse hand. Map scroll wheel up and down to 2 different things. 3 mouse buttons. Then I ordered a gaming mouse with 3 extra minibuttons on the sides. Thats 8 total skills I can use with just my mouse. You may want to check that out as an alternative to foot pedals. But those do work as well. I ultimately didnt care for them, but many people do.
@aleksandr74322 ай бұрын
Hi, subtractem. Really appreciate your stream. Wish you good health. I really hope you can stream more. I remember how much you streamed during crucible league.
@Wraith01002 ай бұрын
i have dropped more than 20 exalts till now, it sucks knowing that exalt and divine have the same weightage
@EdgaJudo2 ай бұрын
Yeah I have dropped like 5 raw exalts and zero divines yet, lol.
@MrBuns-yi2hk2 ай бұрын
I have had the same experience. 3 watchstones and only 2 raw divs.
@Androidonator2 ай бұрын
I seriously doubt that now. Pretty sure the weightage changed. Tujen got 5 exalts for the same price as a 1 div. And since tujen prices are corelated to drop chance i think it changed.
@superking___2 ай бұрын
@@Androidonator It's the same.
@009Daft6002 ай бұрын
@@MrBuns-yi2hki made 100divs and only 2 of them were raw drops 😂
@scire1052 ай бұрын
Not sure if you are already doing it. But the biggest thing i ever did for my hand health in poe is to change the bind in the middle mouse button to space bar and alway put my main skill there. Just holding down space bar is waaaay easier on the hands than spaming right click. Gl and hope you get better!
@Mythkos2 ай бұрын
Been running Guardian/Conquorer Destructive Play rotations with full Boss/Essence/Scarab tree. Basically blast white T16, upgrade essences that are appropriate, collect loot, kill boss (and additional map bosses) for fragment and special drops from the tree. Then do your Maven Invitations when they come up for extra bonus. Good cash, and all the loot is easy to liquidate. Basically a better version of T6 Essence farming if you have the DPS
@praetorianmk-ii45222 ай бұрын
If you have more annuls than anything while running Legions, thats probably not because you got unlucky; There is Harbinger reward icon that could drop one, and doesn't give you ex/divine option (maybe it does drop exalt but very rare, just as harbingers do compared to annuls).
@katmeerkats2 ай бұрын
It's always nice to hear comeback stories and how content creators can have less than optimal league starts and still have fun and figure out how to overcome adversity.
@inkedgemini2 ай бұрын
Have to say, Ice Shot of Penetration mines + juiced Legion is one of the most satisfying things in PoE. When multiple screens fills with ice explosions and you pop entire legions without moving... good times.
@firecross6252 ай бұрын
Have you tried or considered wrist stabilizers? A few leagues ago I got some compression gloves with wrist straps and while the gloves themselves didn't seem to help the wrist straps helped _immensely_. After that I picked up a few no-name brand velcro wrist stabilizers and I've had very few issues since.
@imajumpingbean37232 ай бұрын
Hey, as someone that also has occasional wrist problems from overuse as well, I got one of those little "wrist widget" brace things and it's really helped me personally, helps lock my wrist so I have to use my arm more and helps put less strain on the wrist. Could be something you could look into, they're a little pricey unfortunately, but has been worth it for me.
@infinitenex81652 ай бұрын
I got one as well, but honestly, more rest is the best solution. If you get the brace and keep overplaying, youre moving the issue up the arm. Take more breaks to rest your wrist, and your eyes as well.
@DrCitron_2 ай бұрын
The Divinarius be T0 may be worth a lot of dust with rogue un Kingsmarch, it may be a better usage than selling it
@trentcofaxmtg75012 ай бұрын
Can disenchant unique?
@DrCitron_2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 Yes at Max rank you can
@KiboRex2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 yes, at rank 11
@kylemenos2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 At max rank ya should be 1million dust for a t0
@Hooga892 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 At max lvl disenchanter.
@Azrael-xdd2 ай бұрын
Farmed legion for ab five days and bought myself a foil hh. The biggest issue with this strat is that you have to farm tons of mats to bulk sell, or sell stuff manually, which is what i did unfortunately. Incubators sell slowly but are a tremendous portion of your income, so dont forget to list diviner, ornate, and skittering every once in a while. Very good strat though, theres a reason why so many people recommend legion with beyond and deli.
@prosamis2 ай бұрын
Yo sub! You're one of my favorite underrated poe content creators I hope you're bouncing back up and I hope you enjoy the league! For the first time I really don't know what I want to do or how to do it I'm thinking of farming t17s with blue altar and harvest expedition and see where that goes But yellow juice is soooo much less valuable this league...
@trentcofaxmtg75012 ай бұрын
Glad to see your league start to turn a corner. Take care of your self and best of luck❤ and ty for all that you do! 🎉🎉🎉
@joetriccas2 ай бұрын
Chin ups and grip strength training to toughen up those wrists boy!!!
@Machine_Learning5742 ай бұрын
If you're running into wrist issues i definitely recommend swapping to a thumball mouse if you can. I have a elecom thumball and it has saved my wrist.
@MarcoEH2 ай бұрын
Heyho! You said the atlas is in the previous video's dscription. The Atlas there is totally different tho from the one you show here.
@supersonicgamerguruАй бұрын
I don't think that the emblems being cheap is just about 5-way demand being low, because the supply is far more overall. Previously splinters would just rot in people's stashes but now they are almost immediately liquid. Gold farming being a concern is also pretty huge, which is probably what has killed demand, but the emblems just move far more easily now.
@renediffie2 ай бұрын
Something you can try if you feel like it. Rebinding your main attack to something else than right click really makes a huge difference. I know it sounds weird at first but after 1-2 sessions it will be completely normal. It completely removed all the strain I had on my right hand when playing.
@xXDEUC35Xx2 ай бұрын
Yea, my main attack skill is always the E key for me. Right click is usually for things I don't need to cast that often, like curses or golems or things like that. Totems, if I ever play them is always on my tab key. I also have two flasks on my mouse so I never feel like one hand is being over used. One of the first tips I picked up before starting POE way back when and it's probably saved my wrist lol
@Neriehem2 ай бұрын
I came to like curse on R button, movement on mouse under thumb (using these go forward/go back buttons on 5-button mice). Now that I swapped to Eviscerate/Lacerate on my glad, I also use Q and W for that. E as my enduring cry RMB is strictly Cyclone to proc Maim and my life on hit when I'm not having Eciscerate up. Because of it I'm considering dropping Lacerate, but lately I had some bosses/maps where I had to use Lacerate. I need to consider dropping hexbloom for Molten Shell now, but it's the single best support in the game for clearing QoL - drop one curse, watch it proliferate outwards. Might be amazing EDC Tech for Occultist now that I think of it... jeez do I roll out trap essence drain of desperation (heard it counters life drain of skill since it's using trap as a source, not you) despite having melee league? XD so many question, not enough time to PoB.
@Aokimarcel2 ай бұрын
You should give controller a try, specially for just simple farming/leveling, i find it a lot more comfortable for the wrists
@DarkBiCin2 ай бұрын
I think in total ive made around 30 div this league. I found a div in lab after 6 hours of farming my trans gem. Just bought it. I then just started mapping and mapping and mapping. Eventually I dropped a few items worth 20-100c each. Sold those. I then bought an absolute min roll Ryslatha for 2 Div. I trade some chaos for a divine. Divined the Rys and got a Max roll Rys that sold for 8 div. I have only seen 1 Boat Div. I turned around and spent 2 on another Rys for my build and spent 1 on harvest juice to craft better gear. Turned around and sold 3 of my pieces I was wearing for around 1 div each (I had self farmed harvest to make them prior). I now currently have 5 tabs selling 5c items (Jewelry, Jewels, 86+ Bases, Influenced Items, and Frac/Synth gear) If anything is worth more than that I have it in a custom sale tab with my most expensive item currently up for 30 Div (1200Ar/1100Ev - Life on Block Shield with Open Suffix). Outside of the chaos ive made from sales the rest of my pure Div have come from Veiled Orbs. Got 4 in my first 4 Catarinas, 3 sold for 2 Div, 1 Sold for 4 Div, and my most recent (orb 5 out of 7 attempts sold for 5 Div. This has been my most profitable league so far. (Excluding Duo Magic find wildwood). With how regular Veiled Orbs are dropping im just gonna keep working on challenges (at 22/40 in 4 days) and farming Betrayal as it shows up. Ez money
@musicapmftfr2 ай бұрын
Hey @subtractem, what was your time per map? I am spending 10 min per map, when using all scarabs you mentioned ... is that too much? Thanks.
@kylemenos2 ай бұрын
I'd like to see what you are blocking on your atlas but your face cam is in the way and you mention the atlas is in the description but it isn't. Whats the other video you mentioned that I could see it?
@TehSiets2 ай бұрын
Do you think part of the low profit per hour is due to T17's? I am thinking of Zizaran's latest video about T17's affecting the price of scarabs such that T16's and below really suffer in value when run with scarabs. Congrats on getting it done!
@Tuloth2 ай бұрын
I am engaged by this content, looking forward to see what you level!
@sNNNNNable2 ай бұрын
huh I did ele hit deadeye legion with the same atlas tree and got my headhunter in roughly the same timeframe as every league. I did have brothers gift scry'd onto my map tho
@greedsx5868Ай бұрын
i love that hideout
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube2 ай бұрын
I am super new to the game and finished the campagne today. Using ziz hierophant build should I do the same now to get money? I am super overwhelmed with the info haha
@netneo40382 ай бұрын
When you're new my advice is not to think about the divines per hour and optimal currency making strategies. Everything is overwhelming and trying to play efficiently is a challenge even for seasoned players. Just get to know the game, pick a strategy play it see how it works out. Your most important goal is simply to gain experience (outside of the game, although leveling up ingame is nice too :D ) with the different systems the game has. On that note though, doing almost anything in the game will make you currency, some things faster than others but for the most part playing = getting more stuff. Your first priority should simply be to complete the atlas and getting your first 2 voidstones that come along with following along the eldritch questlines. Dont worry if you don't know what that means, just get maps and complete them with their bonus objectives so you get atlas passive points. Those are vital to making any strategy work.
@lanmandragoran83372 ай бұрын
You shouldn't even be considering "wealth strategies" your first league. You should be exploring the game XD
@RickBomhof2 ай бұрын
allie has a ton of currency strategies for low level investement
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube2 ай бұрын
@@netneo4038thanks a lot so I will do some maps and feel “the flow”. I game since >30years but never felt so lost… and back then games weren’t easy too but not as complexe as this game is
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube2 ай бұрын
@@RickBomhofgot a link for that? Just need to learn haha
@DreaMeRHoLic2 ай бұрын
When you listen... for one second space out and notice "666 mana", start to giggle and have to go back a bit know that you're not the only one that failed to watch the video in one go.
@CaptainLance92 ай бұрын
F for the wrists, ive been having wrist issues on and off past month. stuff sucks
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's awful. Yesterday was even worse. Trying to get creative with my setup now to deal with it.
@arracnocwoodcutter2 ай бұрын
You should run the emblems yourself, lottery jewels + easy xp and some ground loot, its pretty nice way to get easy level ups even solo
@arracnocwoodcutter2 ай бұрын
Did it on My TS deadeye wayback coz i kept dying all The Time and was hard stuck on level ups.
@EricBorn2 ай бұрын
Try an ice pack on your wrist and forearm for about 15-20 min, will definitely help with the pain.
@Epindary2 ай бұрын
Ive sold 50 sets of legion multiple times this league, it is still big worth to collect them.
@PetrCobra2 ай бұрын
Is it reasonable to put the emblems on the market against a divine? Someone would have to specifically go and try to buy a lot of emblems while offering a divine for them. If I were to get some emblems I'd probably choose a ratio against chaos orbs. And even if nobody tries to buy in bulk, small emblem orders will likely sell through the lot of them faster.
@DragonfoxShadow2 ай бұрын
I need to try it I'm playing Contagion ED and already invested into it all I had So I can pop most of the legion with one cast if they are not too far away Until now I was playing Abyss and Ritual (yesterday changed to Abyss and Incursion, as Locus is worth something) It was really slow to fully complete 5 Abyss per map with often one leading to a boss, but it was giving me 10-20% of the level per map Too bad, it wasn't too profitable, as you'd need to have extremely good luck with Stygian Vise rolls (on both, Rare and Unique) or extremely good eye jewels (I still have 2 tabs of eyes to check if they are worth anything) But at least I got Enlighten and one unque jewel worth 11div EDIT: And as for the Settlers, I'm still farming gold to upgrade things. I was barely able to get 100k for last upgrade on main building So I don't even send mappers to save gold And as for the ships, I'm sending 3 boats with 1 low level on each, with just 1 bar and 12 dust each. It gives me 9 (3 per boat) random scarabs and 6 (2 per boat) random runes every 30 minutes
@rax3132 ай бұрын
I feel like I am going insane but I must have missed it. The 3 mirror shards was from group play or he dropped it from the Legion mechanic? I know 1 was from group play
@bawzzzz2 ай бұрын
He bought them to protect himself from inflation.
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
I traded for them when I had enough divines as they are a better store of value.
@rax3132 ай бұрын
@@subtractem thank you i guess that is something to keep in mind at league start or if you want to invest
@MrGruxLike2 ай бұрын
How did you beat Uber Elder for T16 Dunes with such a weak char?
@razorend222 ай бұрын
What even is a divine shrine? I haven't played this game for a few years, got back this league and there's a TON of new stuff
@rotexor2 ай бұрын
Isn't it 8150 dust to get 3x multiplier for boats?
@ctallet888882 ай бұрын
Goodluck with your wrists man. Getting carpal tunnel surgery next week myself.
@btasty60422 ай бұрын
I would throw the divinarius into the duster, it gives around 1.3m dust
@Pizzastealingninja2 ай бұрын
Ahhhh that's a station I haven't upgraded all the way, you can throw uniques in there later? That's a wild amount of dust
@biggriz26902 ай бұрын
Once you get unique dusting you essentially have an infinite supply anyways
@LordAnublz2 ай бұрын
@@Pizzastealingninja people buying all the t0 from the market for ez dust. thx to ggg, uniques you can only put in on max level ... before that important bonus for influence and stuff! wow :)
@mendes4232 ай бұрын
We're you doing chisel, alch vall on your dunes maps?
@Tehblood2 ай бұрын
im literally running white guardian maps on a relic of the pact build, destructive play, selling scarabs and runes from ships. raking in money. not using any scarabs. atlas is just shrines, boxes, smuggle boxes, free safehouse intel node, and the map bosses drop guardian maps. literally zero investment per map. currency exchange makes converting all this stuff so easy. and all the bosses of course
@yaaaamaaaa2 ай бұрын
And how much do you make ?
@tiernanastronskas2612 ай бұрын
@@yaaaamaaaa Not much. I was doing this strat for a couple days and with no scarabs you sometimes don't even drop an influenced map. The only things that are worth money are the maps, and the fragments. The maven's writ is worthless this league (30c each) and the maps you need to continue your farm, so you can really only sell what drops from mobs during your map, and you can sell your fragments. Its a bad farm, but if you have literally 0 currency, you can make a couple divines an hour maybe and then use that to fund something else.
@moo47002 ай бұрын
@@tiernanastronskas261well yeah bossing strats are all about being fast and early because they are dead past day 6. On day 2 writs were 7-8c which were already an ~8c profit and you could then run the boss which dropped 2 div on average 😂
@tiernanastronskas2612 ай бұрын
@@moo4700 Bro, just a heads up, unless you don't have a job, or you are a streamer, nobody is doing money making end game strats on day 2 of a poe league. People (not even casuals, just people that can't put 18 hours a day into poe) aren't even reaching maps until day 2 or 3.
@Rafael-km9mx2 ай бұрын
@@tiernanastronskas261that doesn't matter, he is right, the value is on the first days, people that manage to do those things on day 1-2 are set for the whole league lol
@WDUSNBMHHU2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what the new build is. Farming is just something you do to get the materials to make builds, despite how much the playerbase fetishises "currency". A pile of bricks is less worth having than a house, but all POE players want to do is accumulate bricks. Whatever, you're a creative guy and I want to see that aspect of Subtractem to the fore again.
@gentlepengu2 ай бұрын
i think the take away from this is to get 11 divine shrines and stick to blue
@jneal7132 ай бұрын
Would be helpful to show a map or two in the video. Most people go through them too slow (myself included).
@Amonkira10292 ай бұрын
"I didn't spend very much whatsoever, just 3 divines and then a couple more, kept it very very cheap." 🙄
@Dentas1372 ай бұрын
After getting watchstones my income skyrocketed. I feel like just selling the T17s pays for most juicing then everything else is just profit.
@andrewcollins39502 ай бұрын
Me watching this video with an hour a day if i get time to play knowing i'll probably make 20 divines in the whole league
@KataisTrash2 ай бұрын
Out of personal experience, I suggest you really take proper breaks for your wrists. A couple of years ago, I wasn't aware of RSI at all and completely ruined both of my wrists with work / PoE - and while it got much better, it never fully went away ever since, despite therapy. Really watch out - just because it doesn't hurt anymore after a break doesn't mean your wrists are ready for more stress.
@down-the-rabbit-hole2 ай бұрын
Hopefully someone can answer this, but my shipping is only at 4 rank right now, and I have 4 members for my ship, but I find that I can't put much into my shipment without my risk bar going high. What's the secret to keeping the risk bar so low like Subtractem does?
@bonez9942 ай бұрын
You need higher ranking workers. More members = less risk yes, but higher tier shipping workers also = less risk
@down-the-rabbit-hole2 ай бұрын
@@bonez994 okay thanks mate. Appreciate ya
@anathema18282 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@andreasbrey62772 ай бұрын
[2:20] ".. we don't want Generals ... that is the General-idea ... " -- As always, very entertaining and full of info. Ty Subtractem!
@Vecalius2 ай бұрын
Why not play on a controller? You can manage inventory and stuff with a mouse still. The controller has good support on poe. I played on console my first few thousand hours before swapping to pc.
@bawzzzz2 ай бұрын
Too bad we cant see all the atlas and theres no link in the description.
@devlin72822 ай бұрын
He shows it at 1:58. It’s not that complicated. Take all the legion, quant/rarity and alters.
@bawzzzz2 ай бұрын
@@devlin7282 Yeah I see, I can figure it out but there's the big ass camera over it.
@TimEnjoysGnocchis2 ай бұрын
Wrist: 1.:Speedautoclicker on a side mouse button for pickup/Stashing (not illegal afaik and if it is idc) 2.:Moving on Space bar 3.: 1 Button builds # it'll seriously improve your wrist health. THere are other methods as well of course. Stay healthy!
@moo47002 ай бұрын
How is a full auto flicker not illegal?
@KhloeKarma2 ай бұрын
Also controller support in PoE is quite good - I type a lot for work, so I have started looking for ways to reduce strain on my wrists and hands, and the controller has been a godsend.
@TimEnjoysGnocchis2 ай бұрын
@@moo4700 1 Click= 1 Action (allowed). It is not allowed to log 1 Click= 2 Actions. Speedautoclicker is simply 1 action-repeated very quickly.
@RickBomhof2 ай бұрын
just rebind leftclick to scroll up and down much easier
@TimEnjoysGnocchis2 ай бұрын
@@GE_Photon_Lord its the same as left click. SImpyl hold space and move your mouse without clicking. All that changes is that you dont click the mouse
@the_odr91662 ай бұрын
Not to flex but I belive Chris Wilson himself decided to pull me out of poverty this league I was struggling for divines since Im in the military now and decided to randomly try t16 bestiary for the first time Set everything up was bout to go to sleep and start tmr but decided fuck it let's do 1 map and in the first map I immediately got vivd watcher, which double due to the scarab I was going to go sleep again since trade site was down but when I double checked the site was back up so I said fuck it we ball and bought an awakened melee splash for 15c, rerolled it and got a 50c awakened gem Was going to cut my losses and head to sleep but again I just said fuck it we ball, bought an awakened cold pen gem rerolled it and lo and behold I hit awakened spell echo Anyways that why I'm writing this comment now at Madonalds at 2am cos I'm way to pumped to fall asleep
@RickBomhof2 ай бұрын
why aren't you running the emblems?
@Mr_JMB2 ай бұрын
I got a mageblood from shipping on about the 4th day. Still about 99.9% of my account value...
@benjamincl24092 ай бұрын
You need to start playing Low clicking build and build you dont have to aim! Its so much better on the short and long term for your hands! ( Trust i clicked alot in my life :p )
@mrheckles60762 ай бұрын
Most of his builds are already like that
@killshotgg96312 ай бұрын
Heyy subb, I suffer from the same, get one mouse pad with wrist rest. it should help. 💪
@JayBigDadyCy2 ай бұрын
I've now run 250 maps. 60 of them T16. Plus blighted maps. I have not dropped one Divine 😂😂😂 it's crazy. Usually I drop one every 8-10 maps.
@michaelorrill17282 ай бұрын
Playing with controller is way easier on your hands/wrists than m&k
@reflection5932 ай бұрын
What price is good to sell the mirror shard
@alopez01292 ай бұрын
Prices for mirrors always go up so if you don't need the money ASAP it's better to hold onto it.
@xenariz2 ай бұрын
"23 divines seed money" LMAO Small business loan of 1 million dollars-vibe..
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
I said I didn't touch the mirror shard so I was restarting on day 5 after 100 hours of grinding and broken wrists with 3.5 divines.
@FangzTV2 ай бұрын
Disenchant your divinarius I'm pretty sure you'll get like 300k dust for it
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
1.3 million actually
@FangzTV2 ай бұрын
@@subtractem even better 🫡
@lilypadsy2 ай бұрын
scarabs are so overpriced right now for any loot tile strategy (esp popular ones like legion). imo youd make more just dropping all investment and burning maps for the free passive tree legion + exarch altars but also yeah youre right just do sanctum and make 20 div/hr instead loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
@GrayBeardFPS2 ай бұрын
5 days only 20... myself 2 divine after tge start 😂
@Serasphiel2 ай бұрын
By the 9 divines
@mauroleon22 ай бұрын
man you sould try to play with a controller, its not as bad
@deceiver4442 ай бұрын
Still trying to get a six link after my second voidstone
@404404Hunter2 ай бұрын
run a couple demolition maps and open question mark boxes, about 10-20c needed for a 6l
@panda932472 ай бұрын
Going to be hard to earn currency without items equipped :3
@skabbmensnabb90862 ай бұрын
Funny because I did legion first week and the amount of annuls I got compared to div/ex was CRAZY. I've done legion for at least a little bit almost every league, but this league was something else with how many annuls I got.
@CynterDOW2 ай бұрын
In 35 hours in HC I have 3 divines and not even full atlas completion
@StillKeepOnLosing2 ай бұрын
Yea man... Brexit League. Nothing is working
@michaelmcconnell43432 ай бұрын
LoL 20 divines I must be really poor only got 20 chaos orbs
@CaliTEDD2 ай бұрын
Im poor cuz unlucky. Crafting has not gone my way
@philophobic80232 ай бұрын
No atlas link?
@Tokashiza2 ай бұрын
Technically, if you send a ship to a 2 hour trip or a 40min trip and you are not with your PC, it does not change much how the result is if you just aim for currency or runes ;-) Also, to care about div/hour is silly, it is more about do you enjoy the game and your build and eventually you will make currency
@fabi-fly2 ай бұрын
@@GE_Photon_LordIt's not fun farming blight or blue altars and using scarabs if you don't enjoy them
@DanDan123yoo2 ай бұрын
Everyone complaining about making money but affliction league was the dumbest league going It’s all scaling, everything is cheap as fuck right now
@Hooga892 ай бұрын
Cheap af? Replica Alberon's are like 50 divines when they are usually like 8-10.
@DanDan123yoo2 ай бұрын
@@Hooga89 one meta item has gone up..... great example bud
@teemopanda37882 ай бұрын
how can you have that low currency when you can do t16 white map ultimatum and do 10div an hours (with no big drop)
@starless46452 ай бұрын
what is brother cooking (atlas plz)
@anthonygriffin84632 ай бұрын
Wtf you takin bout?
@teemopanda37882 ай бұрын
@@starless4645 just tkae ultimtum point , all scarab expect catalyst and enjoy xd
@j.vfuentes31182 ай бұрын
Tell us more please
@teemopanda37882 ай бұрын
@@anthonygriffin8463 ultimatum ??
@mayainverse9429Ай бұрын
i have 1 div after a week :(
@freezerain2 ай бұрын
Dude wrist pain is NOT ok, you need to revisit your setup and find the problem, desk heigh, mouse, behaviours whatever. Pain is inevitable consequence of bad ergonomics, not long gaming session
@ClorindaLaguens2 ай бұрын
"I started off very poor" *has 3 and a half divines*
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
3.5 divines on Day 5 of the league after playing 12+ hours a day is horrifically bad.
@TehLiquid2 ай бұрын
So you got ultra omega lucky and dropped 3 mirror shards. Got it.
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
I didn't drop a single mirror shard.
@RichHeart892 ай бұрын
It feels weird that Legion drops so much divine-tier currency while Harbinger which should be THE way to get Annuls and Exalts can’t keep up with it even though Divine orbs don’t even have a shard associated with them
@bawzzzz2 ай бұрын
He bought the mirrors shards.
@RichHeart892 ай бұрын
@@bawzzzz I know. I was just making a comparison between Legion that he ran and Harbinger, that I ran
@Meeps13372 ай бұрын
Been playing for 2 years now, most ive ever gotten was 2 Divines even while following build and currency guides. TNG of this game is straight dog water.
@down-the-rabbit-hole2 ай бұрын
yea, then you were obviously doing something wrong if you've only made 2 divines. There really isn't any other answer. You can watch other videos to see how easy it is to make money in this game. Hell I'm an old man casual gamer, and the lowest divines I've ever made is around 40ish divine during a league, and I considered that pathetic, but it's because I wasn't farming correctly.
@mobb33072 ай бұрын
mann I'm done with this game. "Wasting your time for ggg's trash rng loot" or waste your time trying to make currency... they should just remove group play all together because every fucking thing has to be nerfed so that groups don't ruin the economy. Fuck this game till group play is gone for good and they buff loot(which will be never) "streamer rng" is just one of their employees that give some people better rng, which is those who buy their supporter packs every league or those who spend a shit ton of money on cosmetics. Fuck online gaming seriously, back to single player or no gaming for me.
@lilypadsy2 ай бұрын
bye
@bocheduszko2 ай бұрын
lmao starts blue altars gets 9 divs from the start.. i can go all league without a shot like that.. rng hates me. in settlers still didnt drop a single div. got two 95 lvl toons
@kokorochin012 ай бұрын
Legion is so not profitable, been running it for days and had 0 divine drops..
@tiernanastronskas2612 ай бұрын
You must not be running it enough, because I just ran 20 alc and go dunes with legion and dropped 5 raw divs, and have a quad tab full of shit to sell.
@alxk39952 ай бұрын
What made legion profitable where the emblems. But 5ways are gone and so the prices dropped hard.
@pr4zaVIDZ2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you're not using your ornate incubators, which most of the divines will come from when doing legion strat
@neogramps2 ай бұрын
I ran legions, starting on yellow maps 0 scarabs and started dropping raw divines within the hour, ended up 7 raw divs on first day from incubators/chests.
@kokorochin012 ай бұрын
idk what to say, I've been running that 10-15 hours a day for 3 days now, and using all ornate incubators. 2 divs total all included so far...
@StefanCatalin1012 ай бұрын
League is done. Trash league
@StillKeepOnLosing2 ай бұрын
Brexit League....
@Artistanooss2 ай бұрын
Why is it so ?
@bred95262 ай бұрын
basically you made no currency outside the lucky mirror shards
@netneo40382 ай бұрын
what? did you watch the video? or is this a sarcastic comment? He didn't get a "lucky mirror shard" that's a leftover from his group play share. He made 70 divines farming this strategy. In what world is 70 divines "no currency". He set out to have a total net worth of 100 divines for a new build, that included the mirror shard he had (but didn't use for his build). EDIT: For those commenting that he has more mirror shards, he didn't drop those, he bought them with the currency he made, this is because mirrors become more valuable as time goes on, effectively making you richer over time. He didn't drop them.
@bred95262 ай бұрын
@@netneo4038 in a week is pretty damn low.
@tiernanastronskas2612 ай бұрын
@@netneo4038 How ironic is your comment? YOU didn't watch the video. He said he started with 1 mirror shard, and after hard farming legion for a couple days, he dropped 3 more mirror shards, and made 12 raw divs. If that's not lucky, idk what is.
@brandohall51162 ай бұрын
@@tiernanastronskas261 can you time stamp where he said he DROPPED 3 shards instead of simply buying it with the divines he made? why do you think he dropped 3 shards farming legion of all content lmao
@moo47002 ай бұрын
@brandohall5116 I mean surely this is the case but did he ever even say it in the video? Also mirror shards are probably the worth thing to buy as an investment
@JL-jr3sz2 ай бұрын
1 min ago pog
@hellsbolt2 ай бұрын
First?
@eggspr2 ай бұрын
Why would a steamer play without streaming and get all that currency, off-stream. If I didn’t know it was you, I’d say that sounds shady. Sub: pro-tip, if you ever want to make the full swap into a “full time streamer”, well, you gotta stream, even the grind sessions.
@subtractem2 ай бұрын
I've been full time for 3 years. I said I only played 2-4 hours off stream total over 5 days, like in the morning with my coffee. But yeah, thanks for the advice.