I Tried To Farm 100 Divines The Hard Way

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subtractem

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@mikes2106
@mikes2106 2 ай бұрын
I tore my TFCC styloid in my mouse hand 2 years ago from playing too much, still have to play on a controller and use compression gloves do NOT overuse it if it's in pain. You may need to take a few days or maybe even weeks off to make sure you don't do permanent damage depending on if its inflamed or starting to tear. Fair warning to anyone who reads this, you're not invincible.
@Sc0nv0y
@Sc0nv0y 2 ай бұрын
I had to switch to RF this league because bow build hurt my wrists and hands
@daedalus6433
@daedalus6433 2 ай бұрын
And this is why you need to let your arms not be stretched too much when sitting at a desk with a keyboard
@asdasdfaf7827
@asdasdfaf7827 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget it's poes fault though too much ground loot. 😂
@select.online
@select.online 2 ай бұрын
I had carpel tunnel syndrome, “had” - something that really had a positive impact was changing my main skill to “Q” instead of clicking the mouse, now it feels super natural and more fun
@snowii5561
@snowii5561 2 ай бұрын
i know what you mean im perma wearing wrist braces when i play poe
@netneo4038
@netneo4038 2 ай бұрын
Man this only further seems to highlight my incompetence, you're able to go from a disastrous start into 70 divines profit in the time played that I take to get single digit divines. The worst part is that I am a veteran player, and I know what I should be doing but I just somehow do something incredibly wrong. Probably spending too much time in the map, or not filtering out enough items etc etc. But this once again reinforces the fact that I need to get my shit together! Thanks for the content though! Take care of your wrists, hand related injuries are no joke.
@StaticOrgy
@StaticOrgy 2 ай бұрын
Focus on an end game mechanic, what you enjoy. Use scarabs and farm in maps that you clear fast, does not have to be t16
@YunalaiEmpress
@YunalaiEmpress 2 ай бұрын
Could you describe what you are farming and how you are doing it? For Example its super important that you support your current Strategy with scarabs. I know that a lot of newer players dont use scarabs, which leads to way way slower wealth increase. Also prep Maps to run, it Helps to Not have to roll each map after you completed your last map. Put 40 or so in a tab use a regex and roll them in bulk. Last you probably have more Money in your stash than you know, check bulk prices of bubble gum currencies like essences or Other stuff. Maybe this Helps a bit
@sebyt8
@sebyt8 2 ай бұрын
poor efficiency is the reason a lot of people dont make a lot of divines
@netneo4038
@netneo4038 2 ай бұрын
@@YunalaiEmpress You are correct in the scarab department, I am currently not using any when I probably should. So I'm doing 2 separate farms, the primary one is alva+blight on toxic sewers. Temples I find are generally decently reliable (if the game doesn't rng screw you by not giving you corruption t3). And blight on toxic sewers seems to give me a good amount of general drops (although the oils and blighted maps so far have been a little unlucky). As mentioned I haven't used any scarabs with these, the blight scarabs seem both very expensive and probably will make me fail the encounter. The alva scarabs seem to generally be for having more mobs in the encounter, rather than for building the temple, and the one that drops extra itemised temples with randomized room tiers is probably one I should use when I do get a corruption chamber on the map though. The second strategy is because the connected map for when I run out of toxic sewers (I hate trading for maps) is expedition+betrayal on underground sea. This one has just been very unlucky, I haven't dropped a single logbook in over 20 maps, which is definitely just really bad luck as usually expedition drops me one every other map or so. It happens. Same goes with betrayal, I'm 7 catarina fights in and haven't gotten a veiled orb. Once again I haven't used any scarabs, which is definitely a mistake I should at the very least be using the 'more runic monsters' one for expedition. In general I seem a little hesitant in investing currency in scarabs in the fear that I either fail the encounter or just don't get my investment back because the price is based around some optimal strategy and in t17s. Which is probably an unfounded fear. Also map rolling in bulk is definitely something I should do, and will start doing now, I keep thinking "it doesn't matter that much" but it does, it adds up the amount of time I'm looking at my map and the mods and if I can run it or not. Thanks for the comment!
@netneo4038
@netneo4038 2 ай бұрын
@@sebyt8 yeah I assume that is a large reason for me. I take way too long in maps, I'm sure I take over 10 minutes per map. And spend too much time outside of my map. If I take 3 times longer than most people in maps, then 9 hours grinding for me is 3 hours for someone else. I really need to stop full clearing, I just somehow automatically revert to doing so once I shut my brain off. Because it's not that I can't make currency, it's just that I'm way slower.
@eepopgames2741
@eepopgames2741 2 ай бұрын
As a fellow old man, I can't recommend highly enough a USB foot pedal. The one I got has 3 pedals which I map to left click, right click, and spacebar ( my movement skill). This frees up just using the mouse to point and has greatly reduced/eliminated the hand pain.
@Pharmacopium
@Pharmacopium 2 ай бұрын
Easy with the old man speak, old man
@trentcofaxmtg7501
@trentcofaxmtg7501 2 ай бұрын
I'm gonna have to look into that. Am also an old man😂
@Aokimarcel
@Aokimarcel 2 ай бұрын
For the main skill, do you ever get tired on your feet?
@fofolacosa123
@fofolacosa123 2 ай бұрын
Holy shit you gave me an excellent idea. Not old yet but I'm like 14 hs+ on the PC, so anything that takes effort off the wrist is great. Thank you for the insight
@Skkra
@Skkra 2 ай бұрын
@@Aokimarcel I had shoulder surgery at the start of last league and tried foot pedals, since for 4 weeks I couldnt use my left/keyboard arm. Ultimately what I did was make the most use of my right/mouse hand. Map scroll wheel up and down to 2 different things. 3 mouse buttons. Then I ordered a gaming mouse with 3 extra minibuttons on the sides. Thats 8 total skills I can use with just my mouse. You may want to check that out as an alternative to foot pedals. But those do work as well. I ultimately didnt care for them, but many people do.
@aleksandr7432
@aleksandr7432 2 ай бұрын
Hi, subtractem. Really appreciate your stream. Wish you good health. I really hope you can stream more. I remember how much you streamed during crucible league.
@Wraith0100
@Wraith0100 2 ай бұрын
i have dropped more than 20 exalts till now, it sucks knowing that exalt and divine have the same weightage
@EdgaJudo
@EdgaJudo 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I have dropped like 5 raw exalts and zero divines yet, lol.
@MrBuns-yi2hk
@MrBuns-yi2hk 2 ай бұрын
I have had the same experience. 3 watchstones and only 2 raw divs.
@Androidonator
@Androidonator 2 ай бұрын
I seriously doubt that now. Pretty sure the weightage changed. Tujen got 5 exalts for the same price as a 1 div. And since tujen prices are corelated to drop chance i think it changed.
@superking___
@superking___ 2 ай бұрын
@@Androidonator It's the same.
@009Daft600
@009Daft600 2 ай бұрын
@@MrBuns-yi2hki made 100divs and only 2 of them were raw drops 😂
@scire105
@scire105 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if you are already doing it. But the biggest thing i ever did for my hand health in poe is to change the bind in the middle mouse button to space bar and alway put my main skill there. Just holding down space bar is waaaay easier on the hands than spaming right click. Gl and hope you get better!
@Mythkos
@Mythkos 2 ай бұрын
Been running Guardian/Conquorer Destructive Play rotations with full Boss/Essence/Scarab tree. Basically blast white T16, upgrade essences that are appropriate, collect loot, kill boss (and additional map bosses) for fragment and special drops from the tree. Then do your Maven Invitations when they come up for extra bonus. Good cash, and all the loot is easy to liquidate. Basically a better version of T6 Essence farming if you have the DPS
@praetorianmk-ii4522
@praetorianmk-ii4522 2 ай бұрын
If you have more annuls than anything while running Legions, thats probably not because you got unlucky; There is Harbinger reward icon that could drop one, and doesn't give you ex/divine option (maybe it does drop exalt but very rare, just as harbingers do compared to annuls).
@katmeerkats
@katmeerkats 2 ай бұрын
It's always nice to hear comeback stories and how content creators can have less than optimal league starts and still have fun and figure out how to overcome adversity.
@inkedgemini
@inkedgemini 2 ай бұрын
Have to say, Ice Shot of Penetration mines + juiced Legion is one of the most satisfying things in PoE. When multiple screens fills with ice explosions and you pop entire legions without moving... good times.
@firecross625
@firecross625 2 ай бұрын
Have you tried or considered wrist stabilizers? A few leagues ago I got some compression gloves with wrist straps and while the gloves themselves didn't seem to help the wrist straps helped _immensely_. After that I picked up a few no-name brand velcro wrist stabilizers and I've had very few issues since.
@imajumpingbean3723
@imajumpingbean3723 2 ай бұрын
Hey, as someone that also has occasional wrist problems from overuse as well, I got one of those little "wrist widget" brace things and it's really helped me personally, helps lock my wrist so I have to use my arm more and helps put less strain on the wrist. Could be something you could look into, they're a little pricey unfortunately, but has been worth it for me.
@infinitenex8165
@infinitenex8165 2 ай бұрын
I got one as well, but honestly, more rest is the best solution. If you get the brace and keep overplaying, youre moving the issue up the arm. Take more breaks to rest your wrist, and your eyes as well.
@DrCitron_
@DrCitron_ 2 ай бұрын
The Divinarius be T0 may be worth a lot of dust with rogue un Kingsmarch, it may be a better usage than selling it
@trentcofaxmtg7501
@trentcofaxmtg7501 2 ай бұрын
Can disenchant unique?
@DrCitron_
@DrCitron_ 2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 Yes at Max rank you can
@KiboRex
@KiboRex 2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 yes, at rank 11
@kylemenos
@kylemenos 2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 At max rank ya should be 1million dust for a t0
@Hooga89
@Hooga89 2 ай бұрын
@@trentcofaxmtg7501 At max lvl disenchanter.
@Azrael-xdd
@Azrael-xdd 2 ай бұрын
Farmed legion for ab five days and bought myself a foil hh. The biggest issue with this strat is that you have to farm tons of mats to bulk sell, or sell stuff manually, which is what i did unfortunately. Incubators sell slowly but are a tremendous portion of your income, so dont forget to list diviner, ornate, and skittering every once in a while. Very good strat though, theres a reason why so many people recommend legion with beyond and deli.
@prosamis
@prosamis 2 ай бұрын
Yo sub! You're one of my favorite underrated poe content creators I hope you're bouncing back up and I hope you enjoy the league! For the first time I really don't know what I want to do or how to do it I'm thinking of farming t17s with blue altar and harvest expedition and see where that goes But yellow juice is soooo much less valuable this league...
@trentcofaxmtg7501
@trentcofaxmtg7501 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see your league start to turn a corner. Take care of your self and best of luck❤ and ty for all that you do! 🎉🎉🎉
@joetriccas
@joetriccas 2 ай бұрын
Chin ups and grip strength training to toughen up those wrists boy!!!
@Machine_Learning574
@Machine_Learning574 2 ай бұрын
If you're running into wrist issues i definitely recommend swapping to a thumball mouse if you can. I have a elecom thumball and it has saved my wrist.
@MarcoEH
@MarcoEH 2 ай бұрын
Heyho! You said the atlas is in the previous video's dscription. The Atlas there is totally different tho from the one you show here.
@supersonicgamerguru
@supersonicgamerguru Ай бұрын
I don't think that the emblems being cheap is just about 5-way demand being low, because the supply is far more overall. Previously splinters would just rot in people's stashes but now they are almost immediately liquid. Gold farming being a concern is also pretty huge, which is probably what has killed demand, but the emblems just move far more easily now.
@renediffie
@renediffie 2 ай бұрын
Something you can try if you feel like it. Rebinding your main attack to something else than right click really makes a huge difference. I know it sounds weird at first but after 1-2 sessions it will be completely normal. It completely removed all the strain I had on my right hand when playing.
@xXDEUC35Xx
@xXDEUC35Xx 2 ай бұрын
Yea, my main attack skill is always the E key for me. Right click is usually for things I don't need to cast that often, like curses or golems or things like that. Totems, if I ever play them is always on my tab key. I also have two flasks on my mouse so I never feel like one hand is being over used. One of the first tips I picked up before starting POE way back when and it's probably saved my wrist lol
@Neriehem
@Neriehem 2 ай бұрын
I came to like curse on R button, movement on mouse under thumb (using these go forward/go back buttons on 5-button mice). Now that I swapped to Eviscerate/Lacerate on my glad, I also use Q and W for that. E as my enduring cry RMB is strictly Cyclone to proc Maim and my life on hit when I'm not having Eciscerate up. Because of it I'm considering dropping Lacerate, but lately I had some bosses/maps where I had to use Lacerate. I need to consider dropping hexbloom for Molten Shell now, but it's the single best support in the game for clearing QoL - drop one curse, watch it proliferate outwards. Might be amazing EDC Tech for Occultist now that I think of it... jeez do I roll out trap essence drain of desperation (heard it counters life drain of skill since it's using trap as a source, not you) despite having melee league? XD so many question, not enough time to PoB.
@Aokimarcel
@Aokimarcel 2 ай бұрын
You should give controller a try, specially for just simple farming/leveling, i find it a lot more comfortable for the wrists
@DarkBiCin
@DarkBiCin 2 ай бұрын
I think in total ive made around 30 div this league. I found a div in lab after 6 hours of farming my trans gem. Just bought it. I then just started mapping and mapping and mapping. Eventually I dropped a few items worth 20-100c each. Sold those. I then bought an absolute min roll Ryslatha for 2 Div. I trade some chaos for a divine. Divined the Rys and got a Max roll Rys that sold for 8 div. I have only seen 1 Boat Div. I turned around and spent 2 on another Rys for my build and spent 1 on harvest juice to craft better gear. Turned around and sold 3 of my pieces I was wearing for around 1 div each (I had self farmed harvest to make them prior). I now currently have 5 tabs selling 5c items (Jewelry, Jewels, 86+ Bases, Influenced Items, and Frac/Synth gear) If anything is worth more than that I have it in a custom sale tab with my most expensive item currently up for 30 Div (1200Ar/1100Ev - Life on Block Shield with Open Suffix). Outside of the chaos ive made from sales the rest of my pure Div have come from Veiled Orbs. Got 4 in my first 4 Catarinas, 3 sold for 2 Div, 1 Sold for 4 Div, and my most recent (orb 5 out of 7 attempts sold for 5 Div. This has been my most profitable league so far. (Excluding Duo Magic find wildwood). With how regular Veiled Orbs are dropping im just gonna keep working on challenges (at 22/40 in 4 days) and farming Betrayal as it shows up. Ez money
@musicapmftfr
@musicapmftfr 2 ай бұрын
Hey @subtractem, what was your time per map? I am spending 10 min per map, when using all scarabs you mentioned ... is that too much? Thanks.
@kylemenos
@kylemenos 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to see what you are blocking on your atlas but your face cam is in the way and you mention the atlas is in the description but it isn't. Whats the other video you mentioned that I could see it?
@TehSiets
@TehSiets 2 ай бұрын
Do you think part of the low profit per hour is due to T17's? I am thinking of Zizaran's latest video about T17's affecting the price of scarabs such that T16's and below really suffer in value when run with scarabs. Congrats on getting it done!
@Tuloth
@Tuloth 2 ай бұрын
I am engaged by this content, looking forward to see what you level!
@sNNNNNable
@sNNNNNable 2 ай бұрын
huh I did ele hit deadeye legion with the same atlas tree and got my headhunter in roughly the same timeframe as every league. I did have brothers gift scry'd onto my map tho
@greedsx5868
@greedsx5868 Ай бұрын
i love that hideout
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube 2 ай бұрын
I am super new to the game and finished the campagne today. Using ziz hierophant build should I do the same now to get money? I am super overwhelmed with the info haha
@netneo4038
@netneo4038 2 ай бұрын
When you're new my advice is not to think about the divines per hour and optimal currency making strategies. Everything is overwhelming and trying to play efficiently is a challenge even for seasoned players. Just get to know the game, pick a strategy play it see how it works out. Your most important goal is simply to gain experience (outside of the game, although leveling up ingame is nice too :D ) with the different systems the game has. On that note though, doing almost anything in the game will make you currency, some things faster than others but for the most part playing = getting more stuff. Your first priority should simply be to complete the atlas and getting your first 2 voidstones that come along with following along the eldritch questlines. Dont worry if you don't know what that means, just get maps and complete them with their bonus objectives so you get atlas passive points. Those are vital to making any strategy work.
@lanmandragoran8337
@lanmandragoran8337 2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't even be considering "wealth strategies" your first league. You should be exploring the game XD
@RickBomhof
@RickBomhof 2 ай бұрын
allie has a ton of currency strategies for low level investement
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube 2 ай бұрын
@@netneo4038thanks a lot so I will do some maps and feel “the flow”. I game since >30years but never felt so lost… and back then games weren’t easy too but not as complexe as this game is
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube
@GuyWhoIsOnYoutube 2 ай бұрын
@@RickBomhofgot a link for that? Just need to learn haha
@DreaMeRHoLic
@DreaMeRHoLic 2 ай бұрын
When you listen... for one second space out and notice "666 mana", start to giggle and have to go back a bit know that you're not the only one that failed to watch the video in one go.
@CaptainLance9
@CaptainLance9 2 ай бұрын
F for the wrists, ive been having wrist issues on and off past month. stuff sucks
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's awful. Yesterday was even worse. Trying to get creative with my setup now to deal with it.
@arracnocwoodcutter
@arracnocwoodcutter 2 ай бұрын
You should run the emblems yourself, lottery jewels + easy xp and some ground loot, its pretty nice way to get easy level ups even solo
@arracnocwoodcutter
@arracnocwoodcutter 2 ай бұрын
Did it on My TS deadeye wayback coz i kept dying all The Time and was hard stuck on level ups.
@EricBorn
@EricBorn 2 ай бұрын
Try an ice pack on your wrist and forearm for about 15-20 min, will definitely help with the pain.
@Epindary
@Epindary 2 ай бұрын
Ive sold 50 sets of legion multiple times this league, it is still big worth to collect them.
@PetrCobra
@PetrCobra 2 ай бұрын
Is it reasonable to put the emblems on the market against a divine? Someone would have to specifically go and try to buy a lot of emblems while offering a divine for them. If I were to get some emblems I'd probably choose a ratio against chaos orbs. And even if nobody tries to buy in bulk, small emblem orders will likely sell through the lot of them faster.
@DragonfoxShadow
@DragonfoxShadow 2 ай бұрын
I need to try it I'm playing Contagion ED and already invested into it all I had So I can pop most of the legion with one cast if they are not too far away Until now I was playing Abyss and Ritual (yesterday changed to Abyss and Incursion, as Locus is worth something) It was really slow to fully complete 5 Abyss per map with often one leading to a boss, but it was giving me 10-20% of the level per map Too bad, it wasn't too profitable, as you'd need to have extremely good luck with Stygian Vise rolls (on both, Rare and Unique) or extremely good eye jewels (I still have 2 tabs of eyes to check if they are worth anything) But at least I got Enlighten and one unque jewel worth 11div EDIT: And as for the Settlers, I'm still farming gold to upgrade things. I was barely able to get 100k for last upgrade on main building So I don't even send mappers to save gold And as for the ships, I'm sending 3 boats with 1 low level on each, with just 1 bar and 12 dust each. It gives me 9 (3 per boat) random scarabs and 6 (2 per boat) random runes every 30 minutes
@rax313
@rax313 2 ай бұрын
I feel like I am going insane but I must have missed it. The 3 mirror shards was from group play or he dropped it from the Legion mechanic? I know 1 was from group play
@bawzzzz
@bawzzzz 2 ай бұрын
He bought them to protect himself from inflation.
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
I traded for them when I had enough divines as they are a better store of value.
@rax313
@rax313 2 ай бұрын
@@subtractem thank you i guess that is something to keep in mind at league start or if you want to invest
@MrGruxLike
@MrGruxLike 2 ай бұрын
How did you beat Uber Elder for T16 Dunes with such a weak char?
@razorend22
@razorend22 2 ай бұрын
What even is a divine shrine? I haven't played this game for a few years, got back this league and there's a TON of new stuff
@rotexor
@rotexor 2 ай бұрын
Isn't it 8150 dust to get 3x multiplier for boats?
@ctallet88888
@ctallet88888 2 ай бұрын
Goodluck with your wrists man. Getting carpal tunnel surgery next week myself.
@btasty6042
@btasty6042 2 ай бұрын
I would throw the divinarius into the duster, it gives around 1.3m dust
@Pizzastealingninja
@Pizzastealingninja 2 ай бұрын
Ahhhh that's a station I haven't upgraded all the way, you can throw uniques in there later? That's a wild amount of dust
@biggriz2690
@biggriz2690 2 ай бұрын
Once you get unique dusting you essentially have an infinite supply anyways
@LordAnublz
@LordAnublz 2 ай бұрын
@@Pizzastealingninja people buying all the t0 from the market for ez dust. thx to ggg, uniques you can only put in on max level ... before that important bonus for influence and stuff! wow :)
@mendes423
@mendes423 2 ай бұрын
We're you doing chisel, alch vall on your dunes maps?
@Tehblood
@Tehblood 2 ай бұрын
im literally running white guardian maps on a relic of the pact build, destructive play, selling scarabs and runes from ships. raking in money. not using any scarabs. atlas is just shrines, boxes, smuggle boxes, free safehouse intel node, and the map bosses drop guardian maps. literally zero investment per map. currency exchange makes converting all this stuff so easy. and all the bosses of course
@yaaaamaaaa
@yaaaamaaaa 2 ай бұрын
And how much do you make ?
@tiernanastronskas261
@tiernanastronskas261 2 ай бұрын
@@yaaaamaaaa Not much. I was doing this strat for a couple days and with no scarabs you sometimes don't even drop an influenced map. The only things that are worth money are the maps, and the fragments. The maven's writ is worthless this league (30c each) and the maps you need to continue your farm, so you can really only sell what drops from mobs during your map, and you can sell your fragments. Its a bad farm, but if you have literally 0 currency, you can make a couple divines an hour maybe and then use that to fund something else.
@moo4700
@moo4700 2 ай бұрын
​@@tiernanastronskas261well yeah bossing strats are all about being fast and early because they are dead past day 6. On day 2 writs were 7-8c which were already an ~8c profit and you could then run the boss which dropped 2 div on average 😂
@tiernanastronskas261
@tiernanastronskas261 2 ай бұрын
@@moo4700 Bro, just a heads up, unless you don't have a job, or you are a streamer, nobody is doing money making end game strats on day 2 of a poe league. People (not even casuals, just people that can't put 18 hours a day into poe) aren't even reaching maps until day 2 or 3.
@Rafael-km9mx
@Rafael-km9mx 2 ай бұрын
​@@tiernanastronskas261that doesn't matter, he is right, the value is on the first days, people that manage to do those things on day 1-2 are set for the whole league lol
@WDUSNBMHHU
@WDUSNBMHHU 2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what the new build is. Farming is just something you do to get the materials to make builds, despite how much the playerbase fetishises "currency". A pile of bricks is less worth having than a house, but all POE players want to do is accumulate bricks. Whatever, you're a creative guy and I want to see that aspect of Subtractem to the fore again.
@gentlepengu
@gentlepengu 2 ай бұрын
i think the take away from this is to get 11 divine shrines and stick to blue
@jneal713
@jneal713 2 ай бұрын
Would be helpful to show a map or two in the video. Most people go through them too slow (myself included).
@Amonkira1029
@Amonkira1029 2 ай бұрын
"I didn't spend very much whatsoever, just 3 divines and then a couple more, kept it very very cheap." 🙄
@Dentas137
@Dentas137 2 ай бұрын
After getting watchstones my income skyrocketed. I feel like just selling the T17s pays for most juicing then everything else is just profit.
@andrewcollins3950
@andrewcollins3950 2 ай бұрын
Me watching this video with an hour a day if i get time to play knowing i'll probably make 20 divines in the whole league
@KataisTrash
@KataisTrash 2 ай бұрын
Out of personal experience, I suggest you really take proper breaks for your wrists. A couple of years ago, I wasn't aware of RSI at all and completely ruined both of my wrists with work / PoE - and while it got much better, it never fully went away ever since, despite therapy. Really watch out - just because it doesn't hurt anymore after a break doesn't mean your wrists are ready for more stress.
@down-the-rabbit-hole
@down-the-rabbit-hole 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully someone can answer this, but my shipping is only at 4 rank right now, and I have 4 members for my ship, but I find that I can't put much into my shipment without my risk bar going high. What's the secret to keeping the risk bar so low like Subtractem does?
@bonez994
@bonez994 2 ай бұрын
You need higher ranking workers. More members = less risk yes, but higher tier shipping workers also = less risk
@down-the-rabbit-hole
@down-the-rabbit-hole 2 ай бұрын
@@bonez994 okay thanks mate. Appreciate ya
@anathema1828
@anathema1828 2 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@andreasbrey6277
@andreasbrey6277 2 ай бұрын
[2:20] ".. we don't want Generals ... that is the General-idea ... " -- As always, very entertaining and full of info. Ty Subtractem!
@Vecalius
@Vecalius 2 ай бұрын
Why not play on a controller? You can manage inventory and stuff with a mouse still. The controller has good support on poe. I played on console my first few thousand hours before swapping to pc.
@bawzzzz
@bawzzzz 2 ай бұрын
Too bad we cant see all the atlas and theres no link in the description.
@devlin7282
@devlin7282 2 ай бұрын
He shows it at 1:58. It’s not that complicated. Take all the legion, quant/rarity and alters.
@bawzzzz
@bawzzzz 2 ай бұрын
@@devlin7282 Yeah I see, I can figure it out but there's the big ass camera over it.
@TimEnjoysGnocchis
@TimEnjoysGnocchis 2 ай бұрын
Wrist: 1.:Speedautoclicker on a side mouse button for pickup/Stashing (not illegal afaik and if it is idc) 2.:Moving on Space bar 3.: 1 Button builds # it'll seriously improve your wrist health. THere are other methods as well of course. Stay healthy!
@moo4700
@moo4700 2 ай бұрын
How is a full auto flicker not illegal?
@KhloeKarma
@KhloeKarma 2 ай бұрын
Also controller support in PoE is quite good - I type a lot for work, so I have started looking for ways to reduce strain on my wrists and hands, and the controller has been a godsend.
@TimEnjoysGnocchis
@TimEnjoysGnocchis 2 ай бұрын
@@moo4700 1 Click= 1 Action (allowed). It is not allowed to log 1 Click= 2 Actions. Speedautoclicker is simply 1 action-repeated very quickly.
@RickBomhof
@RickBomhof 2 ай бұрын
just rebind leftclick to scroll up and down much easier
@TimEnjoysGnocchis
@TimEnjoysGnocchis 2 ай бұрын
@@GE_Photon_Lord its the same as left click. SImpyl hold space and move your mouse without clicking. All that changes is that you dont click the mouse
@the_odr9166
@the_odr9166 2 ай бұрын
Not to flex but I belive Chris Wilson himself decided to pull me out of poverty this league I was struggling for divines since Im in the military now and decided to randomly try t16 bestiary for the first time Set everything up was bout to go to sleep and start tmr but decided fuck it let's do 1 map and in the first map I immediately got vivd watcher, which double due to the scarab I was going to go sleep again since trade site was down but when I double checked the site was back up so I said fuck it we ball and bought an awakened melee splash for 15c, rerolled it and got a 50c awakened gem Was going to cut my losses and head to sleep but again I just said fuck it we ball, bought an awakened cold pen gem rerolled it and lo and behold I hit awakened spell echo Anyways that why I'm writing this comment now at Madonalds at 2am cos I'm way to pumped to fall asleep
@RickBomhof
@RickBomhof 2 ай бұрын
why aren't you running the emblems?
@Mr_JMB
@Mr_JMB 2 ай бұрын
I got a mageblood from shipping on about the 4th day. Still about 99.9% of my account value...
@benjamincl2409
@benjamincl2409 2 ай бұрын
You need to start playing Low clicking build and build you dont have to aim! Its so much better on the short and long term for your hands! ( Trust i clicked alot in my life :p )
@mrheckles6076
@mrheckles6076 2 ай бұрын
Most of his builds are already like that
@killshotgg9631
@killshotgg9631 2 ай бұрын
Heyy subb, I suffer from the same, get one mouse pad with wrist rest. it should help. 💪
@JayBigDadyCy
@JayBigDadyCy 2 ай бұрын
I've now run 250 maps. 60 of them T16. Plus blighted maps. I have not dropped one Divine 😂😂😂 it's crazy. Usually I drop one every 8-10 maps.
@michaelorrill1728
@michaelorrill1728 2 ай бұрын
Playing with controller is way easier on your hands/wrists than m&k
@reflection593
@reflection593 2 ай бұрын
What price is good to sell the mirror shard
@alopez0129
@alopez0129 2 ай бұрын
Prices for mirrors always go up so if you don't need the money ASAP it's better to hold onto it.
@xenariz
@xenariz 2 ай бұрын
"23 divines seed money" LMAO Small business loan of 1 million dollars-vibe..
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
I said I didn't touch the mirror shard so I was restarting on day 5 after 100 hours of grinding and broken wrists with 3.5 divines.
@FangzTV
@FangzTV 2 ай бұрын
Disenchant your divinarius I'm pretty sure you'll get like 300k dust for it
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
1.3 million actually
@FangzTV
@FangzTV 2 ай бұрын
@@subtractem even better 🫡
@lilypadsy
@lilypadsy 2 ай бұрын
scarabs are so overpriced right now for any loot tile strategy (esp popular ones like legion). imo youd make more just dropping all investment and burning maps for the free passive tree legion + exarch altars but also yeah youre right just do sanctum and make 20 div/hr instead loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
@GrayBeardFPS
@GrayBeardFPS 2 ай бұрын
5 days only 20... myself 2 divine after tge start 😂
@Serasphiel
@Serasphiel 2 ай бұрын
By the 9 divines
@mauroleon2
@mauroleon2 2 ай бұрын
man you sould try to play with a controller, its not as bad
@deceiver444
@deceiver444 2 ай бұрын
Still trying to get a six link after my second voidstone
@404404Hunter
@404404Hunter 2 ай бұрын
run a couple demolition maps and open question mark boxes, about 10-20c needed for a 6l
@panda93247
@panda93247 2 ай бұрын
Going to be hard to earn currency without items equipped :3
@skabbmensnabb9086
@skabbmensnabb9086 2 ай бұрын
Funny because I did legion first week and the amount of annuls I got compared to div/ex was CRAZY. I've done legion for at least a little bit almost every league, but this league was something else with how many annuls I got.
@CynterDOW
@CynterDOW 2 ай бұрын
In 35 hours in HC I have 3 divines and not even full atlas completion
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing 2 ай бұрын
Yea man... Brexit League. Nothing is working
@michaelmcconnell4343
@michaelmcconnell4343 2 ай бұрын
LoL 20 divines I must be really poor only got 20 chaos orbs
@CaliTEDD
@CaliTEDD 2 ай бұрын
Im poor cuz unlucky. Crafting has not gone my way
@philophobic8023
@philophobic8023 2 ай бұрын
No atlas link?
@Tokashiza
@Tokashiza 2 ай бұрын
Technically, if you send a ship to a 2 hour trip or a 40min trip and you are not with your PC, it does not change much how the result is if you just aim for currency or runes ;-) Also, to care about div/hour is silly, it is more about do you enjoy the game and your build and eventually you will make currency
@fabi-fly
@fabi-fly 2 ай бұрын
​@@GE_Photon_LordIt's not fun farming blight or blue altars and using scarabs if you don't enjoy them
@DanDan123yoo
@DanDan123yoo 2 ай бұрын
Everyone complaining about making money but affliction league was the dumbest league going It’s all scaling, everything is cheap as fuck right now
@Hooga89
@Hooga89 2 ай бұрын
Cheap af? Replica Alberon's are like 50 divines when they are usually like 8-10.
@DanDan123yoo
@DanDan123yoo 2 ай бұрын
@@Hooga89 one meta item has gone up..... great example bud
@teemopanda3788
@teemopanda3788 2 ай бұрын
how can you have that low currency when you can do t16 white map ultimatum and do 10div an hours (with no big drop)
@starless4645
@starless4645 2 ай бұрын
what is brother cooking (atlas plz)
@anthonygriffin8463
@anthonygriffin8463 2 ай бұрын
Wtf you takin bout?
@teemopanda3788
@teemopanda3788 2 ай бұрын
@@starless4645 just tkae ultimtum point , all scarab expect catalyst and enjoy xd
@j.vfuentes3118
@j.vfuentes3118 2 ай бұрын
Tell us more please
@teemopanda3788
@teemopanda3788 2 ай бұрын
@@anthonygriffin8463 ultimatum ??
@mayainverse9429
@mayainverse9429 Ай бұрын
i have 1 div after a week :(
@freezerain
@freezerain 2 ай бұрын
Dude wrist pain is NOT ok, you need to revisit your setup and find the problem, desk heigh, mouse, behaviours whatever. Pain is inevitable consequence of bad ergonomics, not long gaming session
@ClorindaLaguens
@ClorindaLaguens 2 ай бұрын
"I started off very poor" *has 3 and a half divines*
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
3.5 divines on Day 5 of the league after playing 12+ hours a day is horrifically bad.
@TehLiquid
@TehLiquid 2 ай бұрын
So you got ultra omega lucky and dropped 3 mirror shards. Got it.
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
I didn't drop a single mirror shard.
@RichHeart89
@RichHeart89 2 ай бұрын
It feels weird that Legion drops so much divine-tier currency while Harbinger which should be THE way to get Annuls and Exalts can’t keep up with it even though Divine orbs don’t even have a shard associated with them
@bawzzzz
@bawzzzz 2 ай бұрын
He bought the mirrors shards.
@RichHeart89
@RichHeart89 2 ай бұрын
@@bawzzzz I know. I was just making a comparison between Legion that he ran and Harbinger, that I ran
@Meeps1337
@Meeps1337 2 ай бұрын
Been playing for 2 years now, most ive ever gotten was 2 Divines even while following build and currency guides. TNG of this game is straight dog water.
@down-the-rabbit-hole
@down-the-rabbit-hole 2 ай бұрын
yea, then you were obviously doing something wrong if you've only made 2 divines. There really isn't any other answer. You can watch other videos to see how easy it is to make money in this game. Hell I'm an old man casual gamer, and the lowest divines I've ever made is around 40ish divine during a league, and I considered that pathetic, but it's because I wasn't farming correctly.
@mobb3307
@mobb3307 2 ай бұрын
mann I'm done with this game. "Wasting your time for ggg's trash rng loot" or waste your time trying to make currency... they should just remove group play all together because every fucking thing has to be nerfed so that groups don't ruin the economy. Fuck this game till group play is gone for good and they buff loot(which will be never) "streamer rng" is just one of their employees that give some people better rng, which is those who buy their supporter packs every league or those who spend a shit ton of money on cosmetics. Fuck online gaming seriously, back to single player or no gaming for me.
@lilypadsy
@lilypadsy 2 ай бұрын
bye
@bocheduszko
@bocheduszko 2 ай бұрын
lmao starts blue altars gets 9 divs from the start.. i can go all league without a shot like that.. rng hates me. in settlers still didnt drop a single div. got two 95 lvl toons
@kokorochin01
@kokorochin01 2 ай бұрын
Legion is so not profitable, been running it for days and had 0 divine drops..
@tiernanastronskas261
@tiernanastronskas261 2 ай бұрын
You must not be running it enough, because I just ran 20 alc and go dunes with legion and dropped 5 raw divs, and have a quad tab full of shit to sell.
@alxk3995
@alxk3995 2 ай бұрын
What made legion profitable where the emblems. But 5ways are gone and so the prices dropped hard.
@pr4zaVIDZ
@pr4zaVIDZ 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you're not using your ornate incubators, which most of the divines will come from when doing legion strat
@neogramps
@neogramps 2 ай бұрын
I ran legions, starting on yellow maps 0 scarabs and started dropping raw divines within the hour, ended up 7 raw divs on first day from incubators/chests.
@kokorochin01
@kokorochin01 2 ай бұрын
idk what to say, I've been running that 10-15 hours a day for 3 days now, and using all ornate incubators. 2 divs total all included so far...
@StefanCatalin101
@StefanCatalin101 2 ай бұрын
League is done. Trash league
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing 2 ай бұрын
Brexit League....
@Artistanooss
@Artistanooss 2 ай бұрын
Why is it so ?
@bred9526
@bred9526 2 ай бұрын
basically you made no currency outside the lucky mirror shards
@netneo4038
@netneo4038 2 ай бұрын
what? did you watch the video? or is this a sarcastic comment? He didn't get a "lucky mirror shard" that's a leftover from his group play share. He made 70 divines farming this strategy. In what world is 70 divines "no currency". He set out to have a total net worth of 100 divines for a new build, that included the mirror shard he had (but didn't use for his build). EDIT: For those commenting that he has more mirror shards, he didn't drop those, he bought them with the currency he made, this is because mirrors become more valuable as time goes on, effectively making you richer over time. He didn't drop them.
@bred9526
@bred9526 2 ай бұрын
@@netneo4038 in a week is pretty damn low.
@tiernanastronskas261
@tiernanastronskas261 2 ай бұрын
@@netneo4038 How ironic is your comment? YOU didn't watch the video. He said he started with 1 mirror shard, and after hard farming legion for a couple days, he dropped 3 more mirror shards, and made 12 raw divs. If that's not lucky, idk what is.
@brandohall5116
@brandohall5116 2 ай бұрын
@@tiernanastronskas261 can you time stamp where he said he DROPPED 3 shards instead of simply buying it with the divines he made? why do you think he dropped 3 shards farming legion of all content lmao
@moo4700
@moo4700 2 ай бұрын
​@brandohall5116 I mean surely this is the case but did he ever even say it in the video? Also mirror shards are probably the worth thing to buy as an investment
@JL-jr3sz
@JL-jr3sz 2 ай бұрын
1 min ago pog
@hellsbolt
@hellsbolt 2 ай бұрын
First?
@eggspr
@eggspr 2 ай бұрын
Why would a steamer play without streaming and get all that currency, off-stream. If I didn’t know it was you, I’d say that sounds shady. Sub: pro-tip, if you ever want to make the full swap into a “full time streamer”, well, you gotta stream, even the grind sessions.
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 ай бұрын
I've been full time for 3 years. I said I only played 2-4 hours off stream total over 5 days, like in the morning with my coffee. But yeah, thanks for the advice.
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