I Tried To Get Metallica's Guitar Tone..

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks Sweetwater for asking me to do this! sweetwater.sjv.io/nXRv3A Check out COVERING GEAR: instagram.com/p/DFqF-4sOcr_/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[@n0nyabznss]

Your tone is still muddy You need to turn the treble up on the amp.

[@zaxzumu4605]

Wow. Impressive. You also managed to NAIL the bass tone for ...And Justice For All without even trying!

[@gabrielstevens41]

Ride the Lightning was on a stock 800 with a tube screamer. The modded marshall got stolen just prior to the album being recorded

[@duckfluff]

I believe Anthrax lent them some equipment

[@gavinmickwee8853]

James never used one amp when recording, it was always a blend of two or more amps.

[@DerSilvano]

@@gabrielstevens41 it actually was on a JMP, so yes, basically an 800

[@gabrielstevens41]

@DerSilvano yeah I wanted to put 2203 but decided to use the more familiar name for most people

[@GregoryMerritt-o1f]

I'm down with checking out the bonus footage from this endeavor.

[@27retrodaze]

Dude... I really love the documentary/gear play sorta half and half mix youre doing... Good stuff, brother. (Combined together in one video I mean, that style)

[@thomasedward1525]

It’s still missing the most important part of the sound, the proper scoop. MoP was notorious for having a just enough scooped sound. It’s what makes that heavy and heavenly noise my ears love.

[@brutesmagootes3996]

This was a real fun watch. Thanks for all the work you put into it!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks dude, I appreciate that!

[@nickalderman5943]

now I want to know how to get the Kill Em All tone lol. This could be a fun new series, where you replicate your favorite album tones as well as the tones of other highly regarded records.

[@JoelCSabo]

Thanks for working so hard on your setup and illuminating various points of interest during your discovery process. Also, thanks for being bold enough to leave that Hetfieldian "YEAH" in the final edit.

[@audiosmurf]

Nice little nod to Orion there. I obsessively tried to get the tone for that song when I was in high school like two decades ago, but I always found a more mid heavy tone with slightly dialled down gain suited my playstyle better. The tone on their early albums worked well because not only were they very percussive but also incredibly precise. Great video! I'd also be really interested if you could replicate the really smooth and rich lead tones Kirk gets on Orion. I've never managed to replicate them. There's a similar effect on the pre-solo on My Friend of Misery. I'd kill to be able to figure it out. Edit: I figured out the My Friend of Misery, it's just harmony in perfect fourths with a flanger. Bomb.

[@MrRa1nes]

What you missing here is the chorus effect imho.

[@TaylorDanley]

I must have missed that part.

[@shomslegacy4017]

My favourite guitar♥️ Thanks for recording with this beast🔥

[@THESHREDA1987]

You should try your hand at Megadeth Holy Wars

[@BleedingDirt-j8n]

OMG I HAVE THAT EXACT GUITAR

[@SerpentsBane1995]

Taylor, have you heard of Lamb Chopper? He's another Metal KZbinr who IMO accurately recreates the Metallica sound from various periods and other bands as well, not even using the same gear might I add! He has really good ears and gets 95% of the way there using what he has. Not trying to be a dick, but I'm shocked Sweetwater asked the Death Metal guy to do a Metallica rig video instead of the guy well-known for Metallica rig videos... 🤘💀

[@TaylorDanley]

Of course I have! My guess is because he's Australian, and I think SW typically works with US or CAN content creators. .. You'd have to ask them! It was probably between myself and Andrew Baena 🤷‍♂️😅

[@rockmovieswithtyler1989]

​@@TaylorDanley or Kyle Bull 😅

[@KillaFXZ]

Taylor! Your Kenny Loggin's tone was dope. Oh wait. Just kidding sounded great and I love the idea that you came up with for the recreation.🤣😎

[@APOKALYPSE34]

Oh you hit the nail on the head. Gear matters cuz the feeling it evokes when playing. The joy's of being a musician chasing gear, and while others say you don't need more guitars/amps they will never understand and that's ok. Also You should do Kill em all or a Dark Angel tone vid. New sub Keep up the great work!

[@greevar]

Glenn Fricker's research said the cab was the 4x10 with the GT10-65 from Celestion. Also, you have to consider their tone is going to sound different in isolation compared to what they sound like in the mix. Also, Metallica uses stereo separation and dual/quad tracking, which will modify the sound further. I can attest that my rig sounds much different with the MIMIQ Doubler with just one dub (more dubs just sounds super "phasey") than without. It also helps to cut off the speakers at 10Khz to get rid of the chaotic hiss and buzz that steps on the main frequencies.

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

Why would he think it was a 4x10? 🙄

[@AlexRamosDrTaz]

It's not 100% there, but what you said about the vibe... nailed it here IMO. Great use of the graphic EQ, learned a little something today, thank you! =D

[@TaylorDanley]

Glad I could help! =D

[@MrDISTORT6]

GREAT video. Definitely put the rest of the unused footage out.

[@pimpyohthrash]

Taylor, glad you went down this killer rabbit hole. One thi g i been using a 10 ban EQ since 1987 there invaluable. Fuck it up..great job brother.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thank you!

[@alissonzakka]

You made the best video about "reproduce" master of puppets guitar tonein my opinion, congrats bro!!!

[@älskarsvea]

Definitely seconding/thirding the idea for a video about how gear gets people to vibe the way it does! :D

[@douglasvaughn9349]

Loved this video Taylor . I hope you do this more often please 🙏

[@MattieMvStube]

that is absolutely impressive an i love your videos i got a ticket to matallica in 2024 and i was always wondering how they got that tone, keep going man!

[@burnbacktime]

I ran my IICP module into the EL34 loaded power section of my Triple Rectifier and it was like activating God Mode.. it's the best I've heard the module in the room.

[@ZacharyMoonshine]

That was awesome! I completely agree about The Black Album tone. In fact, my favorite thing is listening to their live records from that era, where they use their more modern sound to play their older songs.

[@TaylorDanley]

You know what's weird, listening to them play MOP more recently. It's like they forgot how the riffs go 😂 but I know what you mean!

[@darthsmolin]

Great video and great tone! Would love to see you make a video on the vibes we get from gear and how it influences the way we play.

[@LCW_01]

Fun vid brother… More like this!!! 🤘

[@datooch]

You’re bang on about the black album guitar tones. It’s a higher quality production though and in my opinion straight up heavy metal made for mass consumption as opposed to thrash metal. I love all their stuff. This was a fun one.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, and the thing with the black album also is how many layers there were. Those guitars are Thiccc boi guitars (for the time)

[@low_e_music]

Damn man, nicely done! Always a good day when someone is dialing up 80s Metallica tones. My IICP module should be arriving any minute now so this will be my first order of business too, hah!

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, I'm a big fan of this module. Probably one of my favorites!

[@bryanlegge5400]

Nicely done, Kill em All tone is my fav. It feels more alive

[@TaylorDanley]

I think that's just a boosted marshall if I'm not mistaken. Classic for a reason.

[@keveb4724]

Crunch Berries is a legendary amp

[@cheatingatmath3722]

You're 100% right - Gear affects playing. I used to fight that notion until I spent a lot of time learning Setzer-y/RHH type rockabilly leads on a Gretsch hollowbody. I can, of course, play that same stuff on a Jackson Dinky..they're both guitars in E. Feels strange though; and I'm just going to give in to weedily weediling on it. People don't taste coffee and crave tacos.

[@nikkoberserker]

Hey Taylor ! I want to see how you get the pantera guitar tone from "far beyond driven" . Specially if you haven't a transistor amp . I have a 5150 iconic and 3 Dimebag guitars ( 2 Dean and 1 Washburn) with different bridge piuckup ( bill lawrence usa L500XL , Bill and Becky L500XL and Dimebucker). I want to find the tone look-like dimebag with my rig (not exaclty the same but a sort of ) . Thanks for the video. Take care !

[@GearheadDaily]

I 100% want to see your tonemaster pro build!

[@ptricksmith1965]

i really enjoyed this video! Kudo's sir

[@bsmntbrs777BPH]

Awesome, and I just bought this guitar last week lol. Thanks!

[@TaylorDanley]

It's a good one!

[@ManOrWomanIDK]

The best metal tone i ever had was when i made a giant V on the EQ band in audacity. Maximum scoop

[@KillaFXZ]

Taylor, for Master of Puppets, didn't they detune guitars and play it slower and then sped it up faster and it was back in standard?

[@annihilisthtx2297]

@@KillaFXZ I believe the myth is that they did that with Master of Puppets (the song).

[@SamFisher338]

The mop song is at about 433hz instead of 440, so they didn't fully speed it up to standard. The others on the album are 440 though.

[@TaylorDanley]

ALLEGEDLY 😂

[@LCW_01]

EMGs didn’t come until the MoP tour I believe. Don’t think they recorded with them on MoP.

[@gavinmickwee8853]

Cliff Burton was what made that album magic.

[@infinidominion]

Well if James had an Invader,of course Ole Phlegm would boost top to make up for the Invaders response. I just do it with a 1meg volume pot in a guitar with an Invader because it breathes fire like that, while still having powerful palm chuggability

[@pablos-d2u]

After watching this video, turning on my boss katana and pressing „master of puppets“ preset… lol 😅

[@VukVucicevic7810]

you absolutely nailed it man.

[@mattvdh]

there's a lot of gear compromises along the way, this is only about 90% of the sound they got consequently

[@paimon6897]

Amazing Video dude. WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN IMAGAES AND WORDS/ JPM ERA PETRUCCI TONE RECREATION

[@BrianWGuitar]

If you ever need help with the Metallica history I got you! Good shit!

[@JavierPwns]

Endorsing @BrianWGuitar man knows his Metallica history and tone

[@TaylorDanley]

Hell yeah, thank you!

[@contrarian8870]

@01:36 "K- Bon Jovi" ? Huh?

[@anthonycook5535]

@@contrarian8870 Bon Jovi hovered over the crowd in a helicopter during Metallica’s set at some festival in the ‘80s (I think it was Donnington Monsters of Rock), drowning out the music and causing James to lose his shit. Mr Hetfield had a “KIL BON JOVI” sticker on his guitar for some time after that.

[@TaylorDanley]

I didn't know that.. interesting!

[@darthdivklof9032]

Do a side by side ov the black album tone and master of puppets

[@rutger4131]

Play EMGs into a Mesa Studio Preamp with the V curve on the EQ, run it through an EL34 power amp: instant succes. Use single coils with milder settings and it's instant Nevermind btw.

[@HugoGRP]

@TaylorDanley Man I would love to see your footage of the Trinity and Master Effects PMEQ!

[@TaylorDanley]

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN CHAMP, REAL SOON!

[@TheSpineSplitter1990]

I've owned two pro series Jackson's an RRT5 and the King V. Every time I would pick those up to play I would end up playing Thrash riffs all day long. I mostly play Death Metal riffs, but those guitars gave those thrash vibes... kinda weird to explain but I'm sure some will agree.

[@TaylorDanley]

They do! Gear isn't important... unless it is. You know? 😂

[@LCW_01]

Flemming’s notes show 300W Marshall which could indicate/confirm T75s

[@arkonx7858]

DO DIMEBAG!

[@pablos-d2u]

1:39 Kill Bon Jovi? Okay 😅

[@fedrek01]

Flemming said they didn't slave into the Marshall for rhythm guitars, only for Kirk's solos (But this was mentioned on the forum in 2006 and this thread is hard to find). And the 300W cabinets mean they most likely used T75s.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, I must have missed that. I only had about a week to put this together, so I didn't get to dive super deep.

[@fedrek01]

@@TaylorDanley Yeah, you don't have to go very nerdy, you perfectly proved your point. My friend always says - It doesn't matter what gear they used, you won't have that so use what you have and your ears to get the tone. It's not impossible. Even following the notes is not necessary cause your amp can sound different from theirs.

[@TeeGaddy314]

I have an original pressing of Master of Puppets sitting around

[@TaylorDanley]

That's amazing! Needs to go in a frame on the wall!

[@LeftEarth2]

Roland JC-120

[@martynasjablonskis5803]

Could you find master of puppets tone on Boss Metal zone pedal ? It would help, and thank you for content !

[@mglasgows]

That's cool. I wonder how it compares to the built in MoP sound on a Fender Tonemaster Pro.

[@TaylorDanley]

Funny you should ask, that's part of the extended footage.

[@alissonzakka]

This guitar is so sick!!!!

[@TaylorDanley]

It's a good one!!

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

My tone questing starts and stops with ToneX models lol.

[@kitarramezaza]

that jackson is so pretty

[@TaylorDanley]

It's a good one!

[@FriedEggsandJellyfish]

If you had to choose one tube amp head for the rest of your life. Which would it be and why? Each has their own characteristics and sound, mine would be the JCM 800 kerry king

[@nickrouse8426]

I wanna see the other Metallica content ❤

[@hebguy420]

Sounds pretty good but needed the devil o.d. 😜

[@TaylorDanley]

I know, I couldn't confirm a tubescreamer being used in the chain, but if I had - I would have used the devil 100% lol

[@hebguy420]

@TaylorDanley I'd do it just for personal giggles lol if it pisses others off. Oh well lol

[@brucedickinson8993]

This is my Dream guitar!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately in Brazil things arrive EXPENSIVEEEEEE But someday...

[@colt5399]

I don't know if I'm not listening for the right things, but none of these tones sound even half close to the master of puppets tone. Still, great tones regardless, I just don't hear it.

[@DerSilvano]

Agreed

[@spikedalizard3114]

taylor , do you think you could review an orange supercrush 100? i plan on getting one but all the reviews dont give me a great idea of how it would sound for death metal or prog metal

[@TaylorDanley]

I did a LONG time ago. Idk where the video is... might be on the bridge city sessions channel. I kind of hated it, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying it out again if I get the opportunity.

[@waynesmith-r8c]

not enough bite,too much mud....had a jcm 800 100 watt head and 4 x12" for YEARS and the attack and bite from it could cut heads,with a tube screamer it was fucking brutal...the origin definetly will not get into this realm,period

[@Cas_anova]

Guitars are made to fill the midrange in a mix. To scoop the mids is the dumbest thing to do, you'll muddy the mix, mess with the bassguitar and kickdrum. If you want a good guitar tone: Do the opposite of what Metallica did (like Dimebag).

[@Inn0IWNL]

my favorite plumber uploaded

[@Nitrousgrenade]

Hell yeah

[@renamamiya158]

Nice

[@Talking_Bout_Driguez]

Yaaaaaaaaa!🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@The-Atomic-Woodsman]

Sounded like Bon Jovi? Lmao 🤣 For real tho was extremely close to the recording sound to my ears?

[@sebastiansantacruz2930]

Your picking style is very "open". I hear the notes with tons of clarity, but the palm mutes could sound more muted and "punchy" which would help with this tone I feel. Your wrist is very close to the bridge, Put more meat on that thang.

[@Thrive-Off-Grid]

I bet your in room tone is perfect! But yeah Master of Puppets was their last album. lol

[@TaylorDanley]

Definitely different than what I recorded. Wish I could have gotten a hold of one of those $2600 mics lol

[@Thrive-Off-Grid]

@@TaylorDanley Yup a good portion of it what we the listeners are listening through. My FRFR cabs do all for me; so everything I use audio runs through them. Right now Im running thru an Alto Busker. Its missing the lower end dynamics. I bet it would be more spot on with my larger cab :)

[@9000ryan]

So much work went into the MOP tone… and frankly it is just not a good tone. Blows my mind. Your tone sounds wayyyyy better.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks. I agree, it's not my favorite. It's a lot of fun chasing it with the notes, but objectively I think everything they've done since is better (maybe not st anger)

[@heavybrett-al4082]

But why!????

[@TaylorDanley]

The real question is WHY NOT?!

[@heavybrett-al4082]

@TaylorDanley as long as it's a tone before cliff passed 😂 that black album when it released, pissed off some of us old bastards back in the day 😜🤣

[@jamesmarkham7489]

I don’t like Metallica at all but those 3 albums are the best imo.

[@DerSilvano]

What bands do you like, sir?

[@jamesmarkham7489]

@ protest the hero, between the buried and me, native construct, coheed and cambria, primus, sturgill simpsons, Charlie Crockett, Black Sabbath, etc. I listen to jazz, classical, old country and tons more.

[@cjfoshu]

Metallica was the shit before they began the downfall of the internet.

[@Cas_anova]

It's a terrible tone. Metallica was succesful DISPITE of their tone and Lars's fckery in the studio.

[@DerSilvano]

Could you name a non terrible tone for comparison?

[@s.e.n3264]

Metallica has always had a shitty tone. Good guitar players, but terrible tone.

[@DerSilvano]

Who has a good tone then?

[@Heka41]

Your name is "Taylor" your argument is invalid.

[@DerSilvano]

Nice invalid comment, Hugo