I Tried To Go Super Sonic In THE CENTRIFUGE!

[@kerbes93]

I saw three main issues with the build: 1. Lack of Joints - It should act like a train so it can bend with the track. 2. With wheels, you were losing friction, causing a decrease of speed. 3. Too much friction, both surface and air, disallowing the sound barrier to be broken.

[@Tawre007]

to the first point, just because of rigidity I will use steering hinges.We have seen the train loosing the tail before.

[@rokaslokusevicius3810]

perhapskis

[@V12Maniac]

with 2 I think you meant gaining friction. Less friction means less weight, or contact on/with the wheels which allow the vehicle to go faster. As gravity pulls the vehicle down the centrifuge, gravity is putting more force onto the wheels generating more friction causing more drag between the wheels and the ground. Yes I'm being that guy

[@fluidsoda9845]

no one: can we break the sound barrier with wheels in the centrifuge? scrapman: perhapskis? *center of mass bending the vechicle also scrapman: perhapskis we need moreskis

[@DivinityAureole]

No takee backskis 16:25

[@davyzeradaspalmera]

​@@DivinityAureoleLet's have some morskis

[@itaki_re9142]

perhapskis moreskis?

[@greenpersons1515]

Hovers?

[@thorandtone]

That's just his line forever now

[@Kirbiscool]

You could try to make a plane that can fly both forward and backwards.

[@Octotrapper]

how is that possibe

[@Yesook_geography]

That isn't possible due to the aerofoil. Childish request.

[@king_of_the_ducks178]

​@Octotrapper it is possible, but I don't want to explain how it works

[@tiromotsomane950]

IDK how that would work and its " perhapskis you could try to make a plane that can fly both forward and backwards

[@p_1749]

@@Yesook_geography planes in trailmakers can fly without wing blocks. It is possible, but only with trailmakers physics.

[@MV-69-MV]

Perhapskis a power coupler in between could suspend the back to help

[@PyroRobo]

Try using 1x2 shield pieces in front of the skis. The have a small collision box and great edge aerodynamics. Ya don't even need to worry about countering the directional force either. It'll give ground clearance and still provide the best aerodynamics possible.

[@TheSlothGamer3000]

perhap-skis, more-skis, back-skis, are now in Scrapmans vocab. 😅 (12:03 13:49 16:12)

[@xkillerrino2329]

the change of physics once you approach super sonic is so real its cool. just recently learnt that in my supersonic aerodynamic class in uni too

[@user-mk7bu4pk5q]

I think it is definitely possible! You made it to 1188 without any glitches during the 17:45 build. Maybe intentionally steering up right as you approach 1180 would yield the boom? I'm also interested in the comparison of the speed of the vehicle on flat ground now. Love the content :)

[@clayre839]

This was actually one of my first personal challenges when I went to race Island. Probably a bit to bite off but I learned a lot. It took a combination of spoilers skis hover pads and active control surfaces just to keep the front two wheels functional in the bank. The final product looked like a giant teal wedge of cheese

[@marcunbut1058]

The biggest problem is the length of the vehicule. Because you are inside a circle the longer you are the more pressure there is on the middle. So either you find a way to have a vehicule flexible enought to take the shape of the road better, or you should make it shorter.

[@puipuixproduction]

I think the main issue is that the road isn't flat, it's curving to making the vehicle longer makes it worse. Need to go larger or maybe add a pivot point in the middle to follow the curve

[@bulletproof1581]

Scrapman I think you just have to widen your vehicle to 2 engines width and make a bigger aero piece on the front, when you make something that's past a certain length trail makers starts acting funny, so maybe having a vehicle that's less glitchy is simply better then having a vehicle that's more aerodynamic

[@babarlebarbar2709]

Hey scrap, give Hoverpads some love 😄 (you completely overlooked them, poor things) You're trying to make the skinniest vehicle like when you do "break SB with lowest number of X propulsion system" videos, but your biggest enemy here isn't drag but the ground friction (of course drag is still important, but the tradeoff of a wider vehicle with hover pads vs skies or wheels is worth it), I managed to break it quite easily, no glitches!

[@karyjas1]

You were close, youre almost there. Need to learn something more, to improve it and then return

[@DETHdressedInRED]

16:15 great job guys we've successfully broken ScrapMan. Perhapskis we can push it further hehe.

[@leviathan1082]

I think using the energy connectors would help this work, the problem im seeing is unlike the test map with its totally flat ground, this is curved, i think maybe giving your vehicle that little bit of flexibility at key locations on the craft would help it handle the curvature of the centrifuge, and because its energy and it wouldn't add any weight to the craft it would effectively lose weight.

[@Muroshi9]

Perhaps a more flexable vehicle that conforms to the curve of the track.

[@brennangideon8228]

Yes you should use skis and you'll randomly explode while trying to go sonic. Mine always shattered after going sonic too. What helped mine is hinges to prevent breaking while binding.

[@albinskold8792]

this reminds me of tether cars. they spin around centre point to get to insane speeds. kinda similar except you're not attached to the centere point and you're going basically sideways

[@DanyF02]

I wonder if you could have a setup that automatically bends the vehicle to the shape of the track. Maybe very sensitive distance sensors triggering hinges when they get off the ground? Maybe a combination of that and hovers.

[@andrew-know]

Try using power couplers to make a flexible joint thing, your vehicle is like a straight metal tube forced to drive in a circle, the g forces will try to bend it to the shape of a circle and break it so yeah, try power couplers

[@nyscersul42]

You should retry wheels, but use combined thrust and engines, use the engines to get you up on the wall, and then kick in the thrust, but, also set up the wheels with higher ground clearance, even on stilts or something, to avoid continuous contact... i expect the trouble is the friction on the side of the vehicle, or bottom, due to what is essentially stronger downforce / gravoty.

[@Phentex2192]

I wonder if it could be done gltichless if you make them like train cars using the power coupling. I've never messed with them so I don't know their aerodynamics, but I imagine they would be solid. You would then have the flex for the bend of the centrifuge minimizing the bending forces applied to each section.

[@2vectors708]

Funny thing is air physics do change in real life once you reach the sound barrier, they had to completely redesign aircraft to get them to go supersonic

[@Han4de29]

Fr fr

[@Geathman808]

I wonder if the couplers will help at all. They can be both rigid enough as well as flexible enough to allow the vehicle to practically bend with the centrifuge ring.

[@cuennicolson8666]

what about a trailer hinge? the sled is straight, but the road is concave in the middle so you could bend the vehicle to the road so your contact points aren't just in the front and back

[@VascoCC95]

At this level you need some kind of tail fin that is behind the vehicle so that it points you in the right direction without adding drag

[@brettmacaulay397]

I'm sure there would be a way but it's surely a matter that the spinning force is a change from just a gravitational force alone

[@tripforweekly5406]

not sure if this is accurate but i feel like something like the thumbnail would actually work. having the entire bottom be skis and attaching it with the lightning connectors so it bends would actually be a good idea

[@Quantum39Prime]

have we invented a newskis, languageskis? is that a thingskis? maybe... SKIS.

[@Pumpnineteen]

my guess is that when you ae going down the sine wave, the force pressing you into the ground would increase, while going up it decreases.

[@ritotakanashi6817]

Scrapman you should try having a dog fight while breaking the sound barrier

[@-CrySa-]

you should've added hinges in the middle so the vehicle can curve with the centrifuge, might have soved the back breaking off

[@della1923]

You should of used the rocket booster sm it would of been easier because of the power output of them being so high sm

[@DemonKing19951]

I'm surprised you didn't use hover pads, this seems like the one place that would of been perfect for it.

[@warriors_in4k]

Scrapman break the sound barrier with gimbal jets please

[@frostplaz69]

The drag glitch is done when you disconnect the aerodynamics with the coupler therefore, you are not doing the drag glitch

[@KidarWolf]

Okay, so my thinking on the vehicle breaking is that you're suffering from the same problem a ship does when the bow and stern are on wave peaks, but the bulk of the keel is over a trough in the waves. If you made it so that your vehicle could flex to follow the curvature of the centrifuge, will that help prevent it from breaking, and then allow you to break the sound barrier? Does the game calculate the drag dynamically, or statically? If it's generating dynamically, does it count such a curved air contact surface as each segment having its own drag, or does it calculate the drag as if it was in a straight line? If you do make a vehicle that flexes, it seems sensible to me to design it so that your hinge points are immediately to the front and rear of a central support (wheels/skis). Interested to see whether that would work.

[@noor-qd9mt]

The thing is that the vehicle is straight and Fragile so u need it more flexible or u could have add joints in one or two degrees so it make it carve with the circular

[@simonjoone3273]

I swear I saw a video of scrap man attempting to break the sound barrier here 😂

[@V_ranx12]

add a hinge in the center that allows it to bend with the centrifuge

[@JustJay1354]

11:09 Sounded like A-train

[@dylanhobbs372]

It feels like scrapman is procrastinating doing that hover challenge, just saying

[@Yesenn]

Perhapskis you could try hoverpads to at least soften the forces pushing you against the wall.

[@khajiit_fpv]

just started this video so dont know if you have done this but i want to see like a tube made of skis with thrusters and a seat in the center i think it would be good for the centrifuge

[@louqmaanmotala7898]

Add hinges with 0 force so it hugs the wall better and doesn't break

[@enolalegendary4328]

STEAM ON SALE AND YOU ARE THE FIRST KZbin GOT ME INTO TRAIL MAKER TQ WILL BUY SOON

[@bluecrystal_7843]

i think the main problem is you have too small of a profile, there isn't enough structural stability to handle the constant curve at high speeds, so you keep falling apart before you can reach the desired speed. perhaps making a slightly curved vehicle would help 🤔

[@firenutter1798]

Perhaps stages after all rockets don't carry all there weight because they reject them as they go also a long pipe won't fit in a curved area well so it needs to be shorter or split somehow intermittently somehow

[@Thepies1]

Day 1 of asking scrapman to make a particle accelerator in the centrifuge

[@DETHdressedInRED]

Hey Catarinth, I know this is the wrong channel to ask on but it's intentional. Uhh, while you're trying to make a new song, do you ever get an old beat stuck in your head that won't go away? It unintentionally keeps coming back in my random playing.

[@DETHdressedInRED]

If that makes sense.... I don't have many friends who can help me with specifically this but I absolutely f---ing love your music and you make me want to try to be good at this. I've only been trying for a year and a half though so I know I'm not far along but I guess that's the important part of the struggle is knowing someone is better and wanting to become better.

[@jacobyh1845]

Put hinges before the skis so it articulates with the wall

[@akula2828]

I dont think it was a drag glitch happening. At 21:17 u can clearly see the skis taking over the friction. What i think is happening is that because its a centrifuge you have way more friction being applied the faster u go hence u cant easily break the sound barrier but once u smooth out the friction (The wedges were colliding with the ground) and the wedges fell off the skis just took over the friction thus allowing you to go faster. So no drag glitch happening

[@nikkilemann]

I had a stable 1325kph vehicle in the centrifuge with 12 hoverpads and 10 spacethrusters

[@Mnt-400]

You could try to put hinges in the midle of it so it bends insted of breaking

[@davidquero7004]

Using leskis and more dense propulsion like propellers will make it possible

[@dwsage_]

Can you see if trailing aerodynamic do something for this type of motion?

[@ciuquis2466]

Bro forgot about trailing aerodynamics 💀

[@Jonnygriz]

*screaming tailfin and upforce at the screen

[@someguy8437]

Day two of asking scrapman to do OP hovercrafts, OP battle bots, OP demo derby, or OP dethrone (small vehicles have to work together to keep it away from the OP vehicle)

[@MytheraI]

Maybe try to enter the top 1% in the centrifuge with this build in the next video?

[@Jackson_Mad]

I think the vehicle is too long, I think either puting a hinge in the middle or making it shorter would help

[@sakukoishikawa9847]

Did you made a video about a functional plane that uses gimbal jets?👾

[@NeroTech200]

Can you make a cannon using a box dispenser and some pistons

[@akramkimou23]

Did u know that if u bend the wheels with the track it will be more stable? Nascar cars have that so it is possible

[@ntoshhlope1168]

Flying tanks is a good idea u should try it with yuzi frank

[@SolsticeFn]

I think the problem is that ur aerodynamic is forcing u against the wall maybe

[@fredrickbambino]

Day 338 of asking scrapman to battle with flying tanks

[@HubbaDubba05]

not gonna happen

[@SOLO-xx4me]

Good idea scrapman plz do this challenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Kirbiscool]

​@@HubbaDubba05NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT?

[@jamesTBurke]

Day 338 of telling you THATS A PLANE SO QUIT ASKING

[@Starakaie]

You’ve been asking for a year and I agree he should do that😊

[@neverlate6248]

You should try the hoverpad.

[@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx]

Scrap is getting SO close to 1m subs 🎉 Edit: perhapskis this isnt posibleskis

[@RageNZ360]

Looks like a whole lotta no drag glitchin to me

[@antonioandreMANTY]

Bro scrapman looks like ibrahimovic the football player

[@universallyepik]

Fr

[@josephkrug8579]

Is it breaking due to the curvature of the track flexing the vehicle too much at high speeds?

[@oshimia6746]

I feel like you're taking the airdrag more seriously than the drag from the ground. A double decker vehicle would drag on the ground much less and could be much shorter. You'd need more aerodynamics, but that should be fine.

[@GOLDFOX2001]

Why didn't you try dragon thrusters and or a combo of them and engines ?

[@TunerslifeV2]

Nose Off=Zero drag nahhh do IT without

[@Kazuhira95]

Petition for ScrapMan's moderators to remove comments starting with "Day X of asking Scrapman...", because they are in every video and becoming old and spammy at this point.

[@Gabriel_Ultrakill]

Just... don't go into the comments

[@andrew-know]

Then just don't read comments? I mean it's a fan request thing and it's commented everyday so it will ultimately be in every video

[@Gabriel_Ultrakill]

@@andrew-know Ye, i don't see problems in that

[@Kazuhira95]

it's in his discord FAQ, so he will most likely treat it as spam too: Q: Will you play X game? A: What I decide to play is more of a business decision than a personal one since KZbin is my full-time job. So there's a lot that goes into choosing what games to try on the channel. Whether or not it was suggested by fans isn't likely to have a big impact on that.

[@Gabriel_Ultrakill]

@@Kazuhira95 fair point

[@Arifurrahman3757]

2:40 just see the shadow

[@Shakshuk]

Perhapskis this might work

[@waffles5321]

trailing aerodynamics 😭

[@MichalKolac]

Actually liked this video

[@dallasjenkins6983]

What about engins and thrusters to break the sound barrier

[@Gabriele_G]

Did he put Trailing aero?

[@darkwarrior1588]

hinges to bend the body to match centrifuge?

[@kjdh3823]

Perhapskis use propellers?

[@benfletcher8100]

Vehicle damage is getting an update?! Please let it be that you can turn off vehicle damage in the sandbox

[@KrissKristiansen]

I have done this before and my vehicle just exploded when i went supersonic

[@Ponderforge]

Very SKI-sy episode

[@kubek5332]

Put stearieng hinges at the back

[@Shad0wb1adeX]

GENIUS!!!!

[@rexandrocket3566]

Put thrusters on it.

[@Dark_kill19421real]

small walkers VS op walker when

[@Crafterchen2]

Perhapskis you actually need to go wider than longer

[@Mostafa-vs8bd]

Use more up force aerodynamic

[@quigglesnoopmcboop9087]

super sonic your too slow 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@Nefrea]

Rocket thrusters?

[@gageschleser6307]

Heheh. He said perhapskiis again

[@littlerambo]

perahpskis you needed moreskis skis

[@trisertricordoh2127]

Wouldn't it be wise, using both wheels and thrusters, and not making it a stick.

[@Selena_games6991]

Scrapmanskiis... sorry had to say it lol