I Use These Powered Speakers EVERY DAY!

[@Mjaybird]

Would you buy these or buy Fosi audio amplifier and use a set of speakers you have? I need speakers for my computer, mine are Logitech THX from 12 years ago

[@JilesMcCoy]

I’d buy a set of powered speakers. I have a fosi stack that is great, but I try to keep the clutter down. With powered speakers I can just connect power and input and I am done. Less cords.

[@Mjaybird]

@@JilesMcCoy I will be looking at buying these powered speakers for my computer then an amplifier

[@duainelingafelter7768]

👍

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thanks!

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

Any measurements on these?

[@JilesMcCoy]

None here

[@Artcore103]

200hz is far too high of a crossover frequency to a sub. The sound is directional at that point, and is also going to typically sound somewhat muddy through most entry level to average subs. A typical crossover frequency for those should be more like 60-80hz. 100-120hz would be considered high, and the highest any sub should ever be crossed at under normal conditions. The sub crossover on the M6 is variable from 20-200hz it's not fixed at 200. The reported frequency response of the M6 is 35hz, which means it's either -3, -6, or -10db at that frequency (they don't specify, but I would suspect it's -6 or -10 seeing they're a small sealed speaker... but they do have a dsp bass boost feature). Unless you're playing REALLY loud, such that the m6 cannot output 60hz at the required SPL, which would be a scenario in which you raise your subwoofer crossover frequency, then you will get better overall sound (consistent tonality, preserve stereo separation lower - into the bass drum and bass guitar range, and more detail) by lowering your subwoofer crossover frequency. Your sub's crossover doesn't have to match the M6. The m6 control is your high pass filter point - meaning you want the speakers to roll off at and below this point. You can then play with your subs crossover frequency separately to get an appropriate blend/hand-off between them, which you can ONLY properly evaluate using a measurement mic and Room EQ Wizard, or by playing sine wave sweeps and listening carefully for peaks or nulls around that crossover frequency. When you said you use a 200hz high pass and sub x-over frequency with these medium sized bookshelf speakers, I instantly though, wow ok this guy has a lot to learn about sound. That is not normal, nor is it the intended design/use case. 200hz is VERY high, and you're robbing at least 1 if not 2 octaves from the M6 that it is perfectly capable of. That's even getting well into the male vocal range, and it's going to sound like ass compared to properly setting things up.

[@JilesMcCoy]

You have the concepts down, but your understanding of the implementation of the sub out on the M6 is wrong. The sub frequency output is fixed on the M6. There is no way to alter that. The volume of the sub output is controllable, just as the the speakers themselves, via the volume controls. Basically this is summing everything 200hz and under and pushing it out the sub RCA. The main speakers still play full range. The instructions indicate that you should use the low pass filter on your subwoofer to blend your subwoofer in with your mains (the bookshelves). Since the summed output is up to 200 hz you could play a sub that high if you wanted to, but typically, even with bookshelf speakers, you will blend at a lower frequency. Dayton suggests a 100hz low pass setting on your subwoofer when using the M6. This is very similar to how audiophile folks blend subwoofers in with full range speakers using high level inputs on subs... typically seen with REL, for example. Remember, this is a basic feature set speaker. There is no app, etc. If you read the instructions it will help you understand how to set up these speakers: www.daytonaudio.com/images/resources/dayton-audio-m4-m6-user-manual.pdf

[@JilesMcCoy]

For additional clarification, this does not work like the cross over in an AVR. You can't think of it that way.

[@emmet7208]

You speakers and monitor are too low, You will thank yourself if you lift them up!

[@Artcore103]

Who cares about the monitor, that's pure preference, but for the audio, you're right. They either need raised, or at the very least, put on angled foam wedges to point them up to the listener. That's not even the #1 problem though... 200hz crossover, ouch. But yeah it's also important to isolate the speakers from the desk so the desk doesn't become a large muddy sound radiating surface via the vibrations going straight through the speakers to the desk, hence acoustic foam pads.

[@JilesMcCoy]

@artcore103 You need to read my response so you can understand how the cross over works on these speakers.

[@JilesMcCoy]

I am about 30 years in with monitors in this position... and so far so good. But I am sure there are some that might have an ergonomic issue if they need to look down. This monitor does have many inches of play in its vertical position for those that need it. Yes, a little foam wedge to angle the speakers up to be a little more on axis would be good, but they didn't come with this accessory so they didn't get tested with that accessory. Thanks for watching!